Report: Giffords’ Gunman Is ’Left Wing, Quite Liberal’
- Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:48pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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According to Business Insider, a woman claiming to have been a classmate of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords‘ alleged shooter Jared Loughner says he has run into the Congresswoman once before and that he’s “left wing” and “quite liberal.” That comes as some on the left are trying to paint Loughner as one who succumbed to angry, Tea Party rhetoric.
Business Insider says Laughner’s classmate made the revelations about his political persuasions via her Twitter account:
But when news of the shooting broke, some conservatives, especially Tea Party officials, expressed concern that the left might try to label that gunman as a radical right-winger.
While Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips condemned the attack on Giffords, he told The Hill was concerned the Tea Party movement would be blamed for the incident.
“While we need to take a moment to extend our sympathies to the families of those who died, we cannot allow the hard left to do what it tried to do in 1995 after the Oklahoma City bombing,” he said.
Debbi Dooley, a national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots, echoed a similar sentiment to Congress.org. “A lot of people have bets on how long it will take before they blame this on the tea party and that’s absolutely ridiculous,” she said. Her group condemned the attack via Facebook.
“This heinous act will change the interaction between elected officials and their constituents,” the group’s Facebook wall said. “People also pray for the safety of congressmen, senators, President Obama and other elected officials in the aftermath of this shooting.”
Phillips and Dooley were right.
“Some prominent liberal bloggers wasted little time before politicizing the horrific and tragic shooting of a congresswoman in Arizona on Saturday,” Politics Daily’s Matt Lewis writes.
For example, Markos Moulitsas, founder of the liberal website DailyKos, sent numerous tweets chiding Palin and the right for the attack:
And:
UPDATE:
There’s more anti-conservative political rhetoric bubbling up Saturday evening from a number of Democratic members of Congress.
New Jersey Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell said he feels like the United States is slipping from the rule of law and order and used the opportunity to publicly lambaste Fox News. “There’s an aura of hate and elected politicians feed it, certain people on Fox News feed it,” Pascrell said.
“This hostile rhetoric, I hope we put it behind us and try to work on things to move this country forward,” Rep Albio Sires, D-N.Y. said. “Nobody knows why this guy shot all these people or shot [Giffords], but I just think this rhetoric has to change.”
Additionally, Arizona state Sen. Linda Lopez blamed the tea parties and their “horrible signs” and irresponsibly claimed that the gunman was a “veteran of the Afghanistan war” — an false assumption.
UPDATE II:
We have a number of stories on the front page showing others who have tried to pin the killer, and the killings, on the right, but here are some other examples.
While not specifically saying the “Tea Party” or Republicans, former presidential candidate Gary Hart described the right in a column on the Huffington Post saying that we have now “seen the results of this [angry] rhetoric.”
“Those with a megaphone, whether provided by public office or a media outlet, have responsibilities. They cannot avoid the consequences of their blatant efforts to inflame, anger, and outrage. We all know that there are unstable and potentially dangerous people among us. To repeatedly appeal to their basest instincts is to invite and welcome their predictable violence,” he said.
He added: “That this is carried out, and often rewarded, in the name of the Constitution, democratic rights and liberties, and patriotism is a mockery of all this nation claims to believe and almost all of us continue to struggle to preserve. America is better than this.”
Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) did name the Tea Party specifically, and also Sarah Palin, while debriefing the shootings.
“[Grijalva] who represents a district adjacent to Gabrielle Giffords’s, said that Saturday’s shooting is a consequence of the vitriolic rhetoric that has arisen over the past few years among extreme elements of the Tea Party,” writes HuffPo. It continues:
“The climate has gotten so toxic in our political discourse, setting up for this kind of reaction for too long. It’s unfortunate to say that. I hate to say that,” Grijalva said in an interview with The Huffington Post. “If you’re an opponent, you’re a deadly enemy,” Grijalva said of the mindset among Arizona extremists. “Anybody who contributed to feeding this monster had better step back and realize they’re threatening our form of government.”
Grijalva said that Tea Party leader Sarah Palin should reflect on the rhetoric that she has employed. “She — as I mentioned, people contributing to this toxic climate — Ms. Palin needs to look at her own behavior, and if she wants to help the public discourse, the best thing she could do is to keep quiet.”
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xm-1774u
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:06pmleft right or up and down gunning down anyone is a sin! and a cowards way dangerous times folks pray for her recovery
Report Post »WhiteTeaParty
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:15pmWhat a bunch of croc
A left wing radical is going to shoot a democrat????
Thanks to the main stream media, they are showing old videos of the congresswoman expressing her fears of the threats her office had recieved. They also showed SarahPac and the crosshaired targets she painted on the congresswomans district.
Just because you people on the right are idiots, no one is buying your lies.
GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:29pmWHITEY,
She was a Demoncrat, but evidently not enough of a Communist to satisfy you folk’s Litmus Test. So YOUR COMRADE whacked her. He would have shot a Republican, just as quickly, but there weren‘t any within walking distance from his mother’s house.
Report Post »BECKISNUTSISAJACKASS
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:00pm@white tea party
Hey chode. You’re a great example of willful ignorance. Not to be confused with ignorance. You choose to be as smart as street gravel. Earlier you believed this was a direct effect of the tea party. You were so convinced that you called for the murder of its members (because you’re a chode). Now that all evidence points to this guy being a feeble disgusting liberal worm, you’re stuck with the “I’m not lost in the woods scenario.” If you would remove your head from your rectum and realize both sides have their faults, maybe you would be more capable of assigning blame. Until then your will just come across as a blind fool who is no smarter that your relatives that live in my driveway. I hope you see the light but fear you love the taste of your foot far too much.
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:59pm2011 WILL BE THE YEAR STARS BEGIN FALLING OFF OF THE US FLAG
Democrats have threatend us with violence, murder, riots, and shutting down the government for the last time. We are angered by their threats everytime they are rejected by the American people and loose elections. They are now sending out letter bombs across the nation. They killed a GOP political adviser and dumped his body in a trash bin, and now they open fire on 20 Americans killing a Federal Judge and try to blame it on Conservatives. They did the same thing with the DC snipers, the Uni-bomber, and Zibra Killers. The poisoned brain Democrats do things and then blame it on their political opposition.
We are finished with Democrats. The GOP should erect a high sound barrier in the House of Representatives seperating the GOP from the Democrats.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:05pmThis guy is neither right or left, HE”S CRAZY! Try to assign some political view point to him is futile. He’s a crazy crackpot. Nothing more, nothing less.
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:34pmQuit trying to “sugar coat” it Rick…. the wack job IS A COMMIE/LIBERAL……
Crazy LEFTIST
Report Post »Crazy LEFTIST…… we have them both on both sides….
but….
it’s the freaking LEFTISTS doing the shooting dude!!!
If you’re too much of a fool to know who and what the enemy is… your “PC” tendencies could easily lead you to being in the wrong place at the wrong time. When Glenn has referred to them being “RADICAL”…… this is what they do. Randomly kill innocent people for whatever screwed up belief they refuse to let go of. If they’re still there…. go watch his (Jared the wack job murdering liberal) insane little movies on Youtube. Guy is just like several other libs I used to know when I was one of them….. Thank God I totally lost track of those people.
The Swedette
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:04pmIt’s just so sad how polarized we have become…
And while the Great Uniter is in office!!
Hard to imagine…
Report Post »BUCKEYE2
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:04pmCan’t wait for the truth to come out about this idiot. So far the more we learn about him the more he looks like a left wing, radical, nut job. NOT A TEA PARTY FOLLOWER! Of course the left will try to paint him as a right winger. Two of his favorite books, Mein Kampf, and Communist Manifesto. Enough said. A left wing crazy.
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:03pmSounded to me like a left wing nut bag. He had no gun control. Consevatives will only excersize gun control when everything else has failed. This sounded like the work of a progressive nut bag to me. Now validated by somone who had known this nut. Spin leftie, spin.
Report Post »revelstoke92
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:02pmA young girl is dead; murdered. Which political ideology is in favor of that ? If the first thing you wonder when you read this story is which way the shooter leans, God help you all. I have young children and I can’t imagine the pain that young girls family is in. I hope you all get the outcome you’re hoping for. I’ll be praying for the victims.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:10pm@revelstoke92
Report Post »Very well stated. The most intelligent and heart felt post on this site.
RogueAmeritarian
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:02pmYep, this dude sounds like a serious nutjob, end of story! We really need to pray, hope, & wish for total recovery, for all victims!!!
Report Post »Pyx
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:00pmTo @markos
You and your fellow LEFTists don’t seem to understand that TRUTH has consequences. A fellow LEFTist of yours has murdered yet again.
Report Post »older wiser
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:59pmIf it is true he is liberal, the silence will be deafening.
Report Post »Domandred
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:59pmRead(view) the guy’s writings on his youtube channel….if it still exists. The guy was more stark raving insane than anything political. Absolute nutjob.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:00pmI did read his utube stuff….he was really into some kind of mind control rants….It was very far out there…………not good…not good….I pray for the victims and their family……I think this is part of that bottom up that van jones talks about…..
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:58pmReminds Me of the Georgia Mosque Burning.Blame Tea Party First,Then Find out it was a Muslim,Then Never retract.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:58pmI don’t care if this guy was left right up or down – He is a mentally disturbed individual.
Report Post »Where were the adults/friends of this guy – Someone had to know his mental condition!
beksma
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:29pmTrue but perhaps they didn’t realize he was as violent as this. Or they didn’t care. So sad
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 4:40pmEXACTLY… However, it was not those on the right that began the ******* match. Before the gun quit smoking,The daily kos, msnbc, cnn and a number of other left wing sites began spewing their venom. I for one am a peace loving , live and let live kind of person, but if attacked I will respond with whatever force is needed to thwart said attack. We on the right are growing weary of the endless unfounded assault on our beliefs and way of life . Keep pushing lefties…You may not like the response you get when the limit is reached.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:58pmYo Markos Moulitsas…. He was one of yours. F Off freak!
Report Post »AFVet_in_CO
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:56pmFrom his videos, it seems that he was referring to the US Constitution as treasonous laws. Cap that with his list of favorite books…Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf and I think we see someone here from the extreme left.
Shame there are so many mindless idiots out there prematurely taking aim at the Tea Party. None of us who identify with the principles of the Tea Party would ever dream of doing something like this. This is a travesty no matter what side of aisle you stand on.
God be with those injured or killed today.
Report Post »Brinna Nanda
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:28pm@Afvet
Short history lesson: Mein Kampf, and the Nazi movement (and fascism in general) was, in large part, a far-right reaction to communism. Nazi supporters in Europe and the US were aligned with this monstrous ideology because the Nazis were also against communism, which they felt, threatened their capitalistic privileges.
I just want to point out that, Left or Right, it is the radical, reactionary, fundamentalist rhetoric and actions, aggravated by instability and mental illness, that lead, inevitably, to this kind of terrible violence.
If we should learn anything from this tragedy, it is to tone down the freaking rhetoric on all sides.
Report Post »Duff
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:59pm@Brinna Nanda
If your going to give a history lesson you should know and understand the history your trying to give a lesson on.
Nazi was short for National SOCIALIST party, as in the far left definition and understanding of socialism. It was fascist and only different from communism in that you could still own your business, but you had to operate it under complete government control.
Naziism was only considered “far right” to the communists. They both occupy very close to the same space on the far far left of the political spectrum.
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:24pmBrinna you have studied your revisionist history well unfortunately you are WRONG…..
Report Post »go back and read the SOURCE documents and you will find there is little to NO difference between the communist and the solcialist… and it had nothing to do with capitalism….
Center right
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:56pmthis dude from the daily kos is a scum bag.
http://tbladel.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-do-not-let-todays-shooting-turn-political/
Report Post »parmajohn
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:56pmI Live In a world I Don”t Understand ….anymore The Guy Has problems No need to label him He will Go thru the system and Be Tried By OUR LAWS Thats what we do……Pray For the victims and their families
Report Post »mbguy02
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 4:49amI pray for the families of those victems as well as the wounded. But, this is not just the case of a nut job gone MAD. Facts are coming out in droves now, He was not alone, Freaks like this are great targets for the fringe elements. Mark my words….This was an assasination atempt pure and simple. This kid was in the company of a 50ish type man. He had been attendeding meetings recently. People close to him admit he was a leftist radical. He had history with the Congresswomen. Called her unintelligent.She has recently become one of the people ticking off the far left as with Obama for not carring out their agenda. As a Blue Dog Dem, and a non-partisn she is in that group. The Feds have raided other locations, no explainations as of yet. With the Radical Socialists such as Van Jones and Pivin and other becoming so visable I‘m afraid this isn’t the last of the violence.
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:55pmNow wait, Glenn Beck has showed us evidence of the POTUS’ posse calling for a rising up. To feel the anger, etc. They are instructions only the unbalanced would even consider. Plus POTUS’ outright insensitivity to Arizona. Placing all eyes on this administration for purposely inciting violence. Serious.
Report Post »Center right
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:55pmThis is not political, please check out freedom apparatus. My new blog. Looking for writers.
http://tbladel.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-do-not-let-todays-shooting-turn-political/
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:55pmOne of his favorite books are the “communist manifesto” so why are these left wingers going overboard and killing people? The guy at the descovery channel, the guy who flew his plane into a building. All were left wingers. So is the bottom up Van Jones is talking about?
Report Post »ANTIFA
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:59pmAnd his other favorite books included Mein Kampf. Seriously people, this kid was disturbed, not political, can we not turn everything into a left-vs-right mudslinging contest?
Report Post »COMANON
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:21pmExactly, ANTIFA,. Gifford and spectators were convenient targets. Democrat/Republican same thing to this guy. I pray for the victims, their families & friends & I pray for his parents as well.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:38pmANTIFA, we could if the left wasn’t so damn fast to accuse us for this.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:34pm@Anifta- Hitlers Mein Kaump is a leftists book. Hilter and communists are both on the left in Europe. They both are on different sides of the left, thats all. The left and right in this country is different. The left in this country love communism and domination over people. The right in this country believe in freedom and individual rights that come from our creator, not government(man).
Report Post »ANTIFA
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 10:43pm@NOTHINGBUTHETRUTH
That‘s the most absurd straw man argument I’ve ever heard. Hitler is not on the left in Europe. Hitler is not on the left in the United States. Hitler and the Nazis were center-right economically, and hard authoritarians. Literally within Mein Kampf, Hitler denounced what he believed was the Jewish-created global conspiracy of communism.
This left-right allgovernment-nogovernment paradigm is absolutely fallacious. The Political Compass, with a dual axis (economic collectivism vs. economic individualism, government libertarianism vs. government authoritarianism) is generally regarded as the best display of political beliefs.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
There’s the link, if you want to check it out. But the point is, argue this “Fascists and Leftists believed in the same thing!” nonsense. There’s a reason that the various worldwide “Antifa” movements (ie, “Anti-fascism”) use a black and red flag as a symbol.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 3:05am@ AntiFa
“This left-right allgovernment-nogovernment paradigm is absolutely fallacious.”
(citation needed)
What’s so hard to understand? The terms “right” and “left” ON THIS PARTICULAR CHART, which has zero, nothing, nadda to do with conventional American/European notions of left & right, simply delineate direction on the chart.
Farther to the right *on this chart* is toward anarchy or zero government. Farther to the left on the chart is moving towards more government control and terminating at total despotic rule. Governments take different forms, like Communism and Socialism.
The “top-bottom” vector of the chart indicates whether the government is more socialist (government owns some but not all things, some government-controlled private ownership) or whether it is more communist (government owns and controls everything & everyone).
The main difference between Socialism (of the USSR type) and Fascism (of the Nazi type) is nationalism. Socialism of the type in the old USSR was of the “world socialism” type which sought to convert other governments to Socialism. Socialism of the type practiced by the Nazis is a “nationalistic socialism” which mainly sought to conquer other nations for control & spoils.
We don’t want to just change from “Left” to “Right” in American terms, we *demand* a move to the “less government of any kind” direction. Staying locked in the box of the old “Left vs Right” paradigm is what has brought this nation to this tragic point.
Currently, the Right has got our temporary support as they are currently the best hope of reducing the size, scope, and power of government. Make no mistake, support for the current actors on the Right is *conditional* on their actions and honesty. They can and will be replaced if necessary, just as many on the Left have recently been shocked to discover and will be further traumatized again by these facts in 2012.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:54pmThe MSM will spin it this way….
If he is Right then he is TYPICAL
Report Post »If he is Left then he was pushed over the edge by the RIGHT.
wldctnikki90
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:54pmAre you for real?? I just lost my friend today and all people care about is the left or the right. This happened in MY local grocery store and this kid was just a nutball. Mentally Unstable. Look it up. Let’s pray for the victims of this horrible act.
tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:57pm@wldctnikki90
Report Post »Very sorry for your loss and i‘ve been trying to figure out what’s wrong with these people all day.
RogueAmeritarian
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:03pmSorry for your loss!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:05pmI have sent my prayer and sympathies to not only the victims and families but the State of Arizona as well .. and I do to you also .. but let’s be real here .. the LEFT started blaming the TEA Party, etc .. right from the start .. I heard them on FOX doing so .. a State Representitive from Arizona no less .. so don’t try to paint people who are DEFENDING themselves .. as insensitive … we must get the TRUTH out on who this man is .. I do not “blame” the left because the man looks insane .. but they don’t need to try to spin this as per usual into a TEA Party “nut”.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:07pmI think you are wrong. The right, starting with Gov. Brewer, expressed grief and offered their condolences to the victims’ families. The left blamed the Tea Party, Glenn and Sarah.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:09pmwldctnikki90:
Report Post »Please accept my condolences. Those who are too eager to place blame on one political ideology or another are too focused on their own hatreds to stop and think about the victims. Reason does not prevail with these folks and they don‘t realize they’re stoking the fires of discontent.
If these tweets are true, doesn’t matter in light of his obvious mental disorders.
wldctnikki90
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:42pmThank you all for your prayers
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:42pm@wldctnikki90 I am so sorry for your loss and my prayers go out to you as well as all victims of this horrible crime.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:43pmExactly right, kryptonite. Conservatives were quick to ask for prayer and express their concern. Liberals, whether on the news networks or blogging from mommy’s basement, immediately blamed Sarah Palin and the tea party movement.
Report Post »beksma
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:34pmI am so sorry for all those who knew everyone injured or killed today. This is a terrible tragedy and it honestly doesn’t matter what the politcal leanings of the murderer are. He is a murderer, period.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:27pmSorry for your loss. I would avoid other sites. I have been to a few today. They are a thousand times worse.
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:53pmBECKISNUTS…..Where are you now?! How does it feel to be so wrong? Just pray for this poor woman and the families who lost loved ones. A COMMUNIST did this evil act. Who would have guessed?
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:44pmYup. The Left’s bloggers are panicking! This nut job is one of theirs. A very close friend of Rep. Giffords said early-on, that the Tea Party rhetoric was the cause of this tragedy. I don’t know any Tea Partiers who are violent, do you?
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:08pmSTUCK_IN_CA…Tea Party minded people have HONOR. Our armed forces have HONOR. Conservatives have HONOR. I have HONOR. I suspect you have HONOR. See a pattern here?
Report Post »We will see our way through these tough times as they flow into tougher times. We will ultimately prevail although, it WILL get much, much worse before it gets better. Keep the faith and do not let these trolls get to you. We far outnumber them.
Dubyagee
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:53pmHeres the spin. Who cares if he is left or right. He is a murderer.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:58pmThank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:03pmAbsolutely right, and thank you again.
Report Post »Ham
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:11pmHe should be shot to Death, by next week
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:20pmI understand your point, but I do think motive is important. Too many lone wolves and nutjobs out there committing horrific acts. Funny they are consistently connected to the Tea Party, Glenn and or Sarah. Don’t you see a disturbing trend in the country? Don’t you want to be prepared for what may be coming at us from the radical left? I don’t want that “right-wing terrorist” label back on Napolitano’s watch list, do you?
indy1
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:32pmThe media care. Now that the story doesn’t fit the liberal paradigm it will fade away as a local story out there in the Arizona Territory.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:46pm@ HAM
I vote to that too .
Report Post »FirefighterWife26
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:55pm@DUBYAGEE Your exactly right and anyone else for that matter….. this is tragically very simply “mental illness/ instability” issues when anyone sets out to do something like this. Last I checked that doesn’t fall under a “political affiliation” as much as either side would like to believe it in justifying a “cause.” SHAME on Sheriff Clarence Dupnik for feeling inclined to use his television press conference to interject his personal opinion (5-7X) in blaming “talk radio” and “certain television shows” in vile talk creating this issue !!! HIGHLY UNPROFESSIONAL AND HYPOCRITICAL. This should be a time to reflect on sympathy for the victims…. nothing more !!
Report Post »beksma
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:27pmAmen!!
Report Post »demsaredumb
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 10:31pmkryptonite names please? I can find more left wing wackos than you can anyone connected to Tea Party etc. but I guess you are just re-spouting left wing talking points. #1 is our leader telling Republicans to sit in the back of the bus and shut up. That is just a mild thing said on that side. Why is Krugman already spouting off his hate filled rethoric against the right without any clue to what he is saying. The guy has always been an ignorant moron.
Report Post »So yes kryptonite I am waiting for all your links to violence inspired by the right. I don’t listen to Beck very often because of scheduling but I do listen to Rush and NEVER have I heard him talk of violence towards others. Do you listen to any of the ones you mentioned? My guess is you listen to the vile drivel coming out of the mouths of people like Ed Shultz, Or whats his name Press or even Keith Olbermen, these are the people that inspire hatred towards others.
LibertyWon
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 4:28amI could care less what his party affiliation is, but the fact remains that he didn’t blaze up just any supermarket.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:51pmNice job Blaze
Report Post »Stir things up based on a tweet
NickDeringer
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:58pmThe Blaze is just another food fight web site. Sad.
Report Post »SHOESHINEBOY
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:04pmSo did MSNBC…So..It isn’t just the Blaze Reporting this…get a clue…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
msnbc.com news services
updated 1 minute ago 2011-01-08T23:56:08
Share Print Font: +-”I can’t trust the current government,“ and ”I’m a sleepwalker,” Jared Lee Loughner proclaimed in an Internet video weeks before the shooting of a federal judge, congresswoman and others.
A young woman in Arizona, Catie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as “left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.“ She also described him as having a lot of friends ”until he got alcohol poisoning in ‘06″ and dropped out of school. “Mainly loner very philosophical.”
Report Post »Muslim in Chief
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:05pmTroll alert….
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:46pmOr basically Blaze should ignore any evidence the shooter was a leftist to better fit into the progressive narrative that the shooter is a conservative, even if the left have to be deceptive about it.
Report Post »GdavidH
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:53pmJeez louise Tranquil,
Report Post »Go look at Huffin‘ Puff and see what those freaks are spewin’.
It’s just like Global warm, er, uhh Climate change over there….It’s record cold, global warming. Record heat, global warming.
Over at HP it does not matter who commits the act, it‘s always the rights’ fault.
j_man
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:55pmI’m with save the republic, we need to educate ppl about the hidden evils of liberalism, for they are not teaching it in school,and this kid was probably raised by cartoons. Even his video looked like adult swims messaging that they do in-between shows. The up coming generations are IDIOTS raised by tv and progressive teacher unions. We must go on the offensive to wake these xbox live playing internet porn watching gen x y z ers the freak up.
Report Post »moebetta
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:57pmperhaps u should change your name to tranquilizer…. TROLL!
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:15pmyour pathetic…. typical liberal nutbag… Why dont you go collectively hang with you own on the huffington post….
Report Post »ds7
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:29pmliberals entire “victim mentality” philosophy is based on the sad mantra that nobody is EVER accountable for their own actions.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:19pmHey tranquil why don’t you go check your liberal left websites before casting stones there princess. Huff po, AP, move on, media matters, etc are all blaming the right so before you damn the blaze for sticking up for the peaceful voices you need to take stock of what your side is doing with this as well. Remember the old saying about pointing a finger and having 4 others pointing back at you. Try again cupcake.
Report Post »BruceB
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 12:44amThought you were leaving about three posts ago?
Report Post »Highland
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:49pmCheck out Andrew Sullivan’s blog at The Atlantic website. He blamed conservatives as soon as the news of the shootings broke.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:59pmwe know how this will go in the MSM
Right he was “typical”
Left he was pushed over the edge by the right.
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:05pmSounded to me like a left wing nut bag. He had no gun control. Consevatives will only excersize gun control when everything else has failed. This sounded like the work of a progressive nut bag to me. Now validated by somone who had known this nut. Spin leftie, spin
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:07pmTime to turn the tables on the left. We have the ammo right here on TheBlaze thanks to Glenn and his team. We have these tweets and we have videos from hardcore radicals calling for violence. Thats all we need, the left uses less info, they go on just a hunch, to point the finger of blame. We have Pivens, Jones and countless others calling for violence. Im challenging Scott Baker, Glenn Beck etc to dig a bit deeper into this Loughner and point the finger of blame at the left for this horrific shooting.
Let the left sweat it out trying to refute it. If this kids tracks lead to any radicals site up to and including any site of The Alphabet Organized Crime Family (http://tinyurl.com/2bndrmn), or any of the radicals vids suggested thats all you need.
Time for the gloves to come off and fight back, give the radicals a “lethal dose” of their own medicine http://www.savingtherepublic.com
TruthTalker
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:10pmLeft/Right doesnt matter in this situation. Insane is Insane no matter what your political leanings are.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:11pm@BMartin1776
You are truly a pathetic sad little person.
I hope that God has mercy on your empty soul
seeker9
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:12pmABC news reported a family member gave the Tea Party as an enemy of the Rep.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:18pmAccording to his own Facebook page, I printed out before it was removed today, he stated he wanted to be a woman, liked men, “Love hunting trolls and children” “Most people just don’t seem to understand me, but I’m gonna prove to you all how wrong you are….”, “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college!”
Report Post »He worked for Child Services and for his picture he posted the cover of Animal Farm.
RightWrite
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:19pmThe Left will be blaming the Tea-Party for the Cartel shootings in Mexicrap, the shooting of Reagan, and Mary Jo’s drowning in Chappaquiddick.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:23pmGeorge Bush made him do it.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:23pmSeems to me the grandmother of violent revolution,Francis Fox Pivin, called the faithful to violence. Looks like someone besides the usual suspects may have blood on thiir hands. Words have consequences,words have consequences. All of my best to those who are suffering and those who suffer no more.
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:25pmForgve me for piggy backing on you tag, But we all must break the habit of jumping to conclusions! This event was a stain on all of us, to be sure, but it was made worse by the way we handled it. (regardless of beliefs). Now is the time to correct it.
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:27pmAnd by the way, I am praying for all those who lost loved ones or was hurt in this savage attack. But I am not letting the trolls or any of the progressives twist this into somthing it was not. It was one of the progressives, on thier team, not a conservative. Normal people, generally conservative, do not do these things generally speaking. I think we will find out there is higher level pressure from the left that pushed this leftie dirt bag over the edge.
Report Post »mcfinch
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:29pmOf course he is a liberal!
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Video Website
Report Post »indy1
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:30pmBe gentle withSully. He may be sufferering from the heartbreak of AIDS dementia.
Cemoto78
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:31pmWhat is wrong with this Markos dude. So quick to place blame on anyone but the nut who did this, so typical for these progressive idiots. It’s always somebody else to blame rather than the mental that actually did this, once again, no self accountability or responsibility.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:39pmDoes anyone remember when that guy flew his airplane into the IRS building in Texas? As soon as it happened, everyone started blaming the Tea Party, until they found out the was left leaning and railed against conservatives. Then, no more said about him. I can see the same thing happening with this guy.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:42pmtranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:11pm
@BMartin1776
“You are truly a pathetic sad little person.
I hope that God has mercy on your empty soul”
Seems your guns are pointed in the wrong direction. Did you email Markos first with the same message? Didn’t think so!
Report Post »MHP
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:07pm@tranquilrider @Beckisnuts
Actually I blame both you guys and MSNBC for this whole incident. You guys always stoke violence from the left.
Reason is you want the violence so the government will crack down on our freedoms, liberties and rights.
You guys hate the US Constitution.
Well take this to the bank, you guys will never be able to do it.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:26pm@MHP
Report Post »Anyone else here with a grain of integrity want to denounce this scumbag or am I on my own here?
I am responsible for some sick twisted screwball killing innocent people. GFYS you disgusting piece of garbage. It’s people like you and your comments that cause the left to target the Tea Party.
FYI. It was the guy with the gun that’s responsible for his own action just as you are responsible for spewing hate.
tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:33pmAnyone here got the stones to admit that bad people do bad things. Why do you feel that peoples actions are dictated by political party affiliation. Just because your whole life revolves around attacking left and right does not mean that everybody thinks that way. There is not one shread of evidence that supports this tragedy being politically motivated. You clowns made all of that up.
Report Post »Nice work
OneRepublic4us
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:38pmThis is what I was afraid would happen. The left is coming unhinged. When you don’t answer to a higher power your brain just goes on the fritz.
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:45pmCHIEF JUSTICE EARL WARREN BLAMED THE RIGHT WING FOR KENNEDY’s ASSASINATION MINUTES AFTER KENNEDY WAS DECLARED DEAD.
Oswald was a communist who lived in the USSR for several years, attempted to shoot a US Army General, married a Russian women, and was able to leave Russia with his wife. He was a active communist who wanted to overthrow the government, yet Leftist were able to get off the first shots on radio and TV declaring Oswald was a right winger.
Report Post »AlaskaRick
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:54pm“Loughner as one who succumbed to angry, Tea Party rhetoric.”
That’s what the sheriff is saying about it. He‘s a left winger himself so I’m not surprised he’s blaming the “Vitriol” of the campaign and those that propagate it. Gee, I wonder who he’s trying to blame there. He even said that the 2nd amendment should not allow such “Vitriol.”
Very sad way to act if you ask me. Do the criminal investigation and quit causing hate.
Report Post »James
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:56pmIt is happening all over the internet and the libs think we are the crazy ones. This is baffling and should be to anyone with a brain.
http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:10pmGreat new Blazers.
Report Post »You will never see me on your site again. Try to hold back your tears. The sad thing is that there are some very intelligent people that debate and discuss on here. Unfortunately the violent name calling loons speak much louder and much more frequently. So, I’ll do as you ask and go to HuffPo. Thanks for all the hate, it really did open my eyes. To the Blazers with a brain, Ghost, Komp, Kate and many others. Best of luck to you and yours for a safe and healthy 2011. When someone tells you that you’re sespnsible for mass murder and nobody calls them out for it, Not the kind of discussion I was looking for.
StMichelob
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:33pm@TRANQUIL DAMMIT, I have to agree with you! There is only ONE person to blame, and that is the shooter. EVEN IF he was influenced by someone, he should have reason (maybe he doesn’t) and should be able to behave. If this DID turn out to be a right-wing nutjob, everyone here would be saying exactly what I’m saying now. THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME IS THE SHOOTER!
Report Post »BTW, THANKS for forgetting me among your “intellegent” posters….or am I one of the “others”?
tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:44pm@StMichelob
Thank you Sir.
You were definately one of the others.
Take care and as I know we’ve had our differences here, thank you for your service.
Sincerely
Report Post »Worm food
RushLumbar
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 10:18pmthis is rush lumbar’s fault, the “driving miss nancy” comment triggered the whole thing
sincerely, al sharpnot
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 10:53pmAnyone who blamed this on the Tea Party or Conservatives is guilty of hate speech. We should all contact any news organization that employs any such person and demand that they are fired. Certainly contact any company advertising on said networks and demand that they don’t support hate speech. Hate speech is all the left has. They do not have any rational positions.
Report Post »SLEUTH
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:25pmYEP‘ these lefty’s are going to have one big COW PIE covered face since it turned out that the shooter is a left wing nut. i guess they havent learned that when you point one finger to blame three are pointed back at you.
Report Post »chardansearavitriol
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:26pmWow check out you at The Blaze, you blamed the liberals the moment the story broke. Its almost as if you were both being outrageously biased! Why would that be..? Sheesh. Think before you talk.
Report Post »ricklap
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:43pmAnd lableing him as a conservative is just what the media and Sherriff are doing. Truth will NEVER get in the way for these people.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:47pmThe only people spewing hate are on the left. It is moronic of them to think that they can constantly spew hate speech. Here’s the facts: Left wing extremist commits unimaginable act. Left wing morons blame it on the right. Is it any wonder that if you are liberal, you have a lower IQ than average. If you left wing punks had even an average IQ you would realize that this guy was a left wing loon and you’d keep you mouth shut. Only an imbecile would believe anything these morons have to say.
Report Post »StMichelob
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:59pm@ SHARD you liberal nutjob hack, you are right. Blazers seem to knee-jerk and be commentative based on their political leanings with no thought at at. I’m not talking about you guys, I mean another group of blazers….
Listen folks. Think before you post. it’s not that hard, unless the force of will to post as early as possible has your OCD running rampent. So many people posted here, and on liberal sites condemning one side or the othere, and many more on her comdemning the libs and laying blame at their feet when the truth was known. Shut your asses, read a story, take a few minutes to speack and THEN post a comment. Don’t be the dumb s&$ts who post at a whim without thought, not only do you look stupid and ignorant, you do conservatives a great harm and disservice and feed the libs all the ammo they need to be as stupid as they want against you. I can’t teach you on here, just from my posts, how to do “critical thinking” but hopefully I can at least make you give pause to your actions, create a sound opinion and THEN post. But then, monkeys may also fly out of my butt.
Semper Fi and the First Amendment wasn’t created so you could be as stupid as you please in front of God and everyone.
Report Post »Then again, Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) said: “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
5727
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 5:04amMaybe the media should look at the Progresive blod site Daily Kos who had stated about Giffords “My Congresswoman Voted Against Pelosi, Now she is dead to me”. The Daily Kos has since removed it.
check out the conservative site SharpElbows.Net:
Report Post »Jeremy
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:21ammany here are simply pointing out that the typical response from the media is if the person was a conservative then his actions are caused by his political views. I personally think we shouldn’t blame the left or the right until evidence is revealed suggesting that his actions were motivated by his political views. these tweets certainly suggest that he was a liberal but we don’t know if that had anything to do with his motivation. The responsibility lies squarely upon the shoulders of the murderer! even if we find an email from Van Jones or some other high profile communist or progressive telling him to do it! This guy still made a choice and murdered people! If we decide to start blaming the Left for this then we are no better than the left!
Report Post »Lcpinco
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:32amIs this the beginning of what Van Jones calls “bottom up”? I’m thinking yes it is. Get ready folks.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:54amLooks like Gabriel Gifford voted against Nancy pelosi for Minority leader. If it turns out that this guy is a left wing nut and everything is pointing to that,I wonder how many articles and bloggs are out there demonizing the blue dogs for voting against her and I wonder if the shooter read any of them.
Look I personally dont blame anyone but the shooter and what is ever wrong with his brain. But if the left wants to take us down this road, and accuse the rest of America then we will go there and find the truth.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:21amThis murdering scum looks a lot like Kleibold (sp?), from the Columbine massacre.
Report Post »Furious Styles
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:42amSome info on the dailykos saying giffords was “dead to me” 2 days before shooting.
Story and subsequent comments scrubbed but there are screen grabs and lots of other info of news media and others scrubbing this shooters left leanings
http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-voted-against-nancy-pelosi-and-is-now-dead-to-me-eerie-daily-kos-hit-piece-on-gabrielle-giffords-just-two-days-before-assassination-attempt-on-her/
Report Post »MHP
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:56am@tranquilrider
And you been spewing hate from the start against every conservative here, especially Glenn Beck
Another commie chickens out.
Good riddence.
I’ve only read HuffPO once, and that was yesterday, and EVERY poster there was blaming the Tea Party, Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, O’Reilly and the entire Fox News.
Report Post »You left here cause you couldn’t hack the response to you.
OneNationIndivisable
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:43amDuring this time of our national tradgedy, the politicizing of left wing jounalistic rehetoric is truly shameful.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:07pmDon’t let facts or lack there of get in the way of your senseless rant
Report Post »The1776er
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:23pmjust because he was a leftist doesn’t mean that he killed the congresswoman BECAUSE of his ideology.
Granted that his ideology DOES have a history of violence, I don’t think we should sink to the level of the communists and blame it on the other side.
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:42pmTrqanquil. You have nerve. You search these posts for some disagreeable comment to refute. Please don’t try to tell us that you come with no agenda. Your like a paid troll that just throws stuff against a wall with little more than sick self righteousness to back you up. Sorry but your views do not represent the only correct view in the room. It’s a damn shame people died and we all feel that loss, but there were causes for this event and this place is where they get discussed. If you want solace get a bible and a priest don’t try to muddy the waters here with your incessant need to see your name posted as often as possible.
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:00pmThe lefty-loons that like to troll here and suddenly all high and mighty after learning that the shooter was one of their own. If you read the posts on the stories as they were first coming in, they lefty loons were probably getting their keyboards wet from the drool as they were sure it was a conservative or teaparty connected person. Posters like BECKISNUTS were almost ravenous. TRANQUILRIDER is a stone-throwing, glass house living, draft dodger, who left the USA to avoid the draft when he was a hippie a long time ago. I doubt that he is a citizen of Canada though, probably just a permanent resident alien, sucking off the Canadian system. He does return now and again for proper medical care. Am I getting warm TRANQUILRIDER?
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 8:20pmThe FActs Tranquilleftistzombie…. are as usually distorted by you left leaning nut bags….
Report Post »The facts are one of your own spawn killed people today and all you do is come to a conservative gathering place of patriots and saints to stir things up… the Left’s time is up… you have lost and now your zombies are turning to violence because that is all you idiots understand…. We are restoring America and your 15 minutes are up….
pavnvet
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:55amWasn’t it our beloved President telling Hispanic Americans not to let the enemy (Republicans) win? The speed of the leader is the speed of the pack. Vitriolic messages that the Tea Party was made up of idiots and racists went a long way in subduing the rhetoric. – NOT! I HATE HYPOCRITES!
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