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Report: Iran Poised for Major Nuclear Expansion

Report: Iran Poised for Major Nuclear Expansion

In this photo released by the Iranian President's Office, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, right is escorted by technicians during a tour of Tehran's research reactor centre in northern Tehran, Iran, Wednesday Feb. 15, 2012. (AP Photo/Iranian President's Office)

VIENNA (AP) — Iran is poised to greatly expand uranium enrichment at a fortified underground bunker to a point that would boost how quickly it could make nuclear warheads, diplomats tell The Associated Press.

They said Tehran has put finishing touches for the installation of thousands of new-generation centrifuges at the cavernous facility – machines that can produce enriched uranium much more quickly and efficiently than its present machines.

While saying that the electrical circuitry, piping and supporting equipment for the new centrifuges was now in place, the diplomats emphasized that Tehran had not started installing the new machines at its Fordo facility and could not say whether it was planning to.

Still, the senior diplomats – who asked for anonymity because their information was privileged – suggested that Tehran would have little reason to prepare the ground for the better centrifuges unless it planned to operate them. They spoke in recent interviews – the last one Saturday.

The reported work at Fordo appeared to reflect Iran’s determination to forge ahead with nuclear activity that could be used to make atomic arms despite rapidly escalating international sanctions and the latent threat of an Israeli military strike on its nuclear facilities.

Fordo could be used to make fissile warhead material even without such an upgrade, the diplomats said.

They said that although older than Iran’s new generation machines, the centrifuges now operating there can be reconfigured within days to make such material because they already are enriching to 20 percent – a level that can be boosted quickly to weapons-grade quality.

Their comments appeared to represent the first time anyone had quantified the time it would take to reconfigure the Fordo centrifuges into machines making weapons-grade material.

In contrast, Iran’s older enrichment site at Natanz is producing uranium at 3.4 percent, a level normally used to power reactors. While that too could be turned into weapons-grade uranium, reassembling from low to weapons-grade production is complex, and retooling the thousands of centrifuges at Natanz would likely take weeks.

The diplomats’ recent comments came as International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors are scheduled to visit Tehran on Sunday. Their trip – the second this month – is another attempt to break more than three years of Iranian stonewalling about allegations that Tehran has – or is – secretly working on nuclear weapons that would be armed with uranium enriched to 90 percent or more.

Diplomats accredited to the IAEA expect little from that visit. They told the AP that – as before – Iran was refusing to allow the agency experts to visit Parchin, the suspected site of explosives testing for a nuclear weapon and had turned down other key requests made by the experts.

Iranian officials deny nuclear weapons aspirations, saying the claims are based on bogus intelligence from the U.S. and Israel.

But IAEA chief Yukiya Amano has said there are increasing indications of such activity. His concerns were outlined in 13-page summary late last year listing clandestine activities that either can be used in civilian or military nuclear programs, or “are specific to nuclear weapons.”

Among these were indications that Iran has conducted high explosives testing and detonator development to set off a nuclear charge, as well as computer modeling of a core of a nuclear warhead. The report also cited preparatory work for a nuclear weapons test and development of a nuclear payload for Iran’s Shahab 3 intermediate range missile – a weapon that could reach Israel.

Iran says it is enriching only to make nuclear fuel. But because enrichment can also create fissile warhead material, the U.N. Security Council has imposed sanctions on Tehran in a failed attempt to force it to stop.

More recently, the U.S., the European Union and other Western allies have either tightened up their own sanctions or rapidly put new penalties in place striking at the heart of Iran’s oil exports lifeline and its financial system.

The most recent squeeze on Iran was announced Friday, when SWIFT, a financial clearinghouse used by virtually every country and major corporation in the world, agreed to shut out the Islamic Republic from its network.

Diplomats say the choke-holds are being applied in part to persuade Israel to hold off on potential military strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities – among them Fordo, a main Israeli concern because it is dug deep into a mountain and could be impervious to the most powerful bunker busting bombs.

Diplomats told the AP earlier this month that Iran had added two new series or cascades of old-generation IR-1 centrifuges to its Fordo operation, meaning 348 centrifuges were now operating in four cascades.

Olli Heinonen, who retired last year as the IAEA’s chief Iran inspector, recently estimated that these machines, and two other cascades at Natanz can produce around 15 kilograms (more than 30 pounds) of 20-percent enriched uranium a month, using Iran’s tons of low-enriched uranium as feedstock.

The low and higher enriched uranium now being produced “provides the basic material needed to produce four to five nuclear weapons,” Heinonen said.

But he suggested “an altogether different scenario” – a much quicker pace of enrichment to levels easily turned into weapons-capable uranium if Iran starts using newer, more powerful centrifuges at Fordo. That, said the diplomats, is exactly what Iran appears to be on the verge of doing by finishing preparatory work recently for new centrifuge installations.

Fordo, which can house 3,000 centrifuges, was confidentially revealed to the IAEA by Iran in 2009, just days before the U.S. and Britain jointly announced its existence.

Iran announced last year that it would move its 20-percent uranium production to Fordo from Natanz and sharply boost capacity. It started making higher grade material two years ago saying it needed it to fuel a research reactor.

But the U.S. and others question the rationale, pointing out that Iran rejected offers of foreign fuel supplies for that reactor and is making more of the higher-enriched material than that small reactor needs.

Comments (119)

  • Al J Zira
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:12pm

    I like how U.N. sanctions seem to stop everyone but the Iranians. Seems all they do is stop Israel and everyone else from responding to an obviouse situation.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 5:01pm

      I agree. We could have better sanctioned Iran and any other non-friendly country by drilling for energy here.

      1 trillion in stimulus could have started a lot of wells, created lots of long-term employment, and helped to significantly pay down debt.

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    • ICOSAHEDRON
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 5:31pm

      @ T-22…
      This Government will NEVER pursue our own energy independence.
      Even if they had the will, the rest of the world would not permit it.

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    • HDRYDER
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 5:34pm

      The UN didn‘t stop Sadam with it’s 14 resolutions either, did they?

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:46pm

      Wrong, Iraq needed a spanking.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 1:50am

      Start working on the keystone pipeline tomorrow were going to need it.open all the oil wells in Texas and the gulf…

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    • WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges10
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 2:30am

      “Report: Iran Poised for Major Nuclear Expansion”

      And good riddance, too. That’ll show those blood thirty muslim savages when they themselves are wiped out by a major nuclear explosion. What? Not “explosion”? Oh … never mind … (just yet)

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 2:38am

      Tsunami, We do not need a stimulus to start drilling here, we just need to get rid of EPA regulations. The free market will take care of the rest of the details. Wake up my friend.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 12:27pm

      I think Iran is headed toward a major nuclear contraction… A very sudden one !

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  • Arshloch
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:12pm

    The best method for Iran to receive a ‘major nuclear’ expansion is to have some one plant a 100 kt mushroom on Tehran.

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 5:50pm

      Yeah that goes well with the “Just War” theory of Christianity.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Why Tehran? Target the production facilities.

      Anyway, the mullahcracy is concentrated in Qom.

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  • crypticguise
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:08pm

    What are we waiting for? Oh, I forgot – Obama. DESTROY the b**tards before they get a nuke. Israel is going to have to do the job alone. Our big-eared Incompetent in Chief will vote “present”.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:19pm

      They can bomb Israel. They can’t bomb us. It’s Israel’s problem. Let them solve it. I like Israel. I support Israel, but I don’t like any other country so much I think it’s a good idea to start wars that they need to fight and we don’t

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    • bhohater
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:01pm

      It’s about time Israel did some of the heavy lifting.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 2:00am

      Obama’s economic sanctions are buying Iran time they need to finish their bomb…Israel should not trust Obama…millions of Americans don’t….Remember Barry said he would support the brotherhood even against the best interests of the United States.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:35am

      bhohater… It’s about time Israel did some of the heavy lifting.

      Israel has already been doing a lot of heavy lifting, even being asked to stand down by the US at times, like now. It seems that BHO is not all you hate. You havent been practicing your goosestep have you? Just asking.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 12:34pm

      Hey crypt
      Its called leading from behind……

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    • Tree_Butcher
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 4:08pm

      @hempstead:
      That’s as dangerously naieve of a statement as I have ever heard.
      They certainly can detonate a nuke in the US, they don’t need a missile or plane to do it. Any 9th grader with access to the internet can figure out how it can done.
      Once they have the capacity to make a fissionable core, surround it with shaped charge explosives, all they have to do is float it over to one of our open border ports on a ship, offload it onto any pickup truck, drive it to any city in the US and {click} there goes your home town and the surrounding 400 miles while the single martyr smiles as he murders.
      As our politicians refuse to allow us to secure every inch of our borders so they can get votes from illegal Mexicans, our only hope is that Israel has the cojones to take out these maniacs in Iran first.
      Israel is the only thing standing inbetween us and a nuclear holocaust if Iran gains the ability to make their own nukes.
      China and Russia will stand by and allow it to happen on our soil, but not theirs. Our politicians would only stop wringing their hands long enough to point their fingers at each other and say ‘it’s THEIR FAULT’ while we bury our dead.

      Our only saving grace right now is that they hate Israel a little more than they hate us. Sanctions are as effective as appeasement.
      God forbid, if they do take out Israel, rest assured they will also vaporize Berlin, London, Paris, New York, D.C., Miami, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Denver, Seattle, Vegas,

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 9:40pm

      Tree_Butcher
      A-bombs are expensive and hard to build. Why would they take the chance of losing one in a risky smuggling operation, when they could hit Israel at will with even the simplest of missiles? Even if it’s not technically impossible that they could get lucky and get a bomb into the U.S., the danger to Israel is so much greater that I am perfectly accurate in describing this as their problem, and I am confident that they will take care of it when they feel it has become necessary to do so.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:58pm

      Butcher, Iran cannot refine enough gas for their own country and they are the second largest oil producing nation in the world. That says a lot about their real abilities. If they are getting a nuke soon, it is because they are getting help. If we just untied Isreals hands from our present foriegn policy, and tell them we would stand behind their decision to the U.N., We would not have to worry about Iran getting nuclear weapons. We could oversee the entire world with our Navy, which would stay in the oceans around the world. Stop giving money to all these countries! We must quit financing these uprisings. If they want to have upheavel in their country, let them pay for it on their own. If this so called caliphate takes place over there, and it becomes a threat to the U.S. then the people give the go ahead to their elected officials to Declare War. We must quit sending our troops to die in unconstitutional wars, period.

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  • MittensKittens
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:07pm

    Did they really mean “expansion” or Nuclear EXPLOSION!

    I like the later.

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    • bhohater
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:05pm

      Maybe the dumb-a$$es will push the wrong button and vaporize themselves.

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  • Jeff Bassett
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:26pm

    Ayatollah Khomeini announce earlier this year, that Iran and Islamist must strike this year before Obama is out of office. Obama as well has done a wonderful job of knocking out neutral and US supportive middle east governments and allowing the Islamic brotherhood to gain control. At this time, we are seeing the most hostile middle east governance since Israel has been founded.
    Strikes on Israel called:
    http://www.israelmilitary.net/showthread.php?t=21053
    As well Iran is posturing against the US Naval presence in the Hormuz straight. Obviously, this is a powder keg waiting to happen and Iran knows that it is better to strike sooner than later unless they can gain more support through further support of Islamic extremist powers.
    Given all that is happening, I expect a strike by Islam forces on Saudi Arabia as the next step to cripple US and European oil supplies, followed by a limited and failing strike on Israel as well a call for a global Jihad and instituting a caliphate again for a new Ottoman Empire.
    There is no other reason for Iran to build and put so much effort and resources into it’s nuclear program, other than for an offensive purpose.

    Interesting time we are living in.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:38pm

      Indeed, look for continuing uprisings in Syria and especially Bahrain; then Saudi Arabia. All that will be needed is some provocation by Obama that Iran can use to justify an attack; and given Obamas history of ‘wag the dog’ moments he has used already they will have one. The next war will see not only armies in the middle east but hades unleashed in terror attacks at home – by Iran and our own government.

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    • cuinsong
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 7:56pm

      and that’s why I wrote this song “The End Times” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10381143

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 2:09am

      Lets not forget that Obama’s dismantling our military just when we might need it most..He’s destroying our economy,and leaving us defenseless to the threats from our southern border..

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:54pm

    They are trying to start WWIII. With Obama’s help (appeasement and weakness) Iran just might pull it off!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:27pm

      Liberals = MASH: ‘suicide is painless…”

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    • RightPolitically
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:44pm

      Remember about a year and a half ago when Iranians were in the streets protesting the phony election results and Obama stood on his hands, did nothing to help those people? Right then and there, had we the will, the “crazy” mullahs ruling the country could have been brought down and the world wouldn’t be facing the threat we now do.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 2:45am

      We need to pull our troops home, tell Isreal to defend themselves and we will stand behind their decision and prepare for the war that is coming. China’s president Hu told their Navy in December to prepare for war with the U.S. If we do not get our troops here, put the money into defense instead of giving it to everyone else in the world, we will be weak when it comes. Wake up people or we will be under a U.N. world government controlled under aChina type system.

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  • geonj
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:47pm

    if obama cared about the safety of America, he would order the bunker busters to fall.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:56pm

      He does not care about the US – look at his insame ideas of making us a “nuclear zero” while all the remainder of the world turns on us with these same weapons.

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  • SHOWMESTATEGUY
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:44pm

    When Iran starts firing nuclear armed missiles around the middle east (don’t kid yourselves, if they have them they are going to use them) who are the dem libs and msm going to blame for this? George Bush?

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    • RightPolitically
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Of course, George W. did it. That’s their answer to everything negative….. Bush, Bush & Bush!

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    • The_Constitutionalist
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:25pm

      @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Stop embarrassing yourself.
      Say something logical will you?

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:41pm

    Israel is gonna do whats its gatta do.
    Bada Bing Bada Boom!
    The little sheet heads are gonna have a bad day!

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  • colt1860
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:32pm

    Well, unless the US or Israel has plans to attack Venezuela too, we’re going nowhere. Iran has facilities in South America also. And, unless we’re ready to fight Russia, who’s ready to protect her oil interests, as is China, we’re barking up the wrong tree. Like I’ve said before, WW3 will be the result of any major war now. Get ready.

    It’ll be hard to defend our homeland with most of our troops stationed abroad, but then again, in these last decades, our Presidents have giving lip service, while out on foreign adventures, to actual National Defense here at home. Just look at our borders. Be prepared to be invaded, ransacked, and taken captive. Jacob’s trouble, here it comes. Just saying.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:59pm

      Those pesky “blurred and open borders” Ron Paul tells us about in his book and that his Libertarian ideology would like for us to have right COLT?

      Tom Tancredo on Ron Paul’s immigration stanceTea Party West | Empowerment through EducationTea Party West: http://teapartywest.com/?p=2143#.Tz_syNA7luQ.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:01pm

      It is just like red dawn,
      they will come across the borders with ease. they can’t stop the cartels, they will not be able to stop a large scale invasion from the south.
      Wolverines!

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:10pm

      Besides. The isolationist, pacifist, anti-war, anti-Military and anti-law enforcement, tough talking Ron Paul border patrol crowd wouldn’t know the difference between a terrorist at the border if he/she came up and handed you a belt laden with explosives or the Taco Bell chihuahua handing you a chalupa.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:26pm

      @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      I NEVER MENTIONED PAUL. For someone who believes Paul has a snowball’s chance in hell to be nominated, you sure as heck do take up much energy and time to write against him at whatever opportunity. Sounds desperate. And I‘m not interested in Credo’s “reading between the lines” nonsense. He quotes him, and then says it means something different than what he said.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:42pm

      @colt1860

      It’s not a matter of Ron Paul getting the nomination. It‘s that the crazy Paulbots plan to write him when he doesn’t get the nomination, fully knowing they’ll be helping 0bama.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:49pm

      Of course you didn’t mention Paul. Let me have my fun in pointing his followers out. You don’t have a problem with the recognition do you? Or are you embarrassed?

      C’mon COLT… give us a big hearty woop woop for…

      Ron Paul/ Iran in 2012!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:59pm

      @qpwille I really don’t care what they do, and I’m not going to start whining about it. I’m 99.9% certain that I’ll vote for whoever the nominee is. And I’m certainly not going to blame them if Obama wins. The GOP Establishment is the one who has failed. Must I mention McCain’s failure?

      @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12 Honestly, I’m not going to waste my time responding to your comments. Have a good day. Now, have at it.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:02pm

      QP. To the average Ron Paul subscriber… meh… Ron Paul or Obama… makes no diff.

      Sorry, forgot… it’s a radicalized conscience thing with them…

      Again… meh… Ron Paul or Obama… no diff.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:37pm

      No need to respond any longer COLT as you’ve stated to QP…

      “I’m 99.9% certain that I’ll vote for whoever the nominee is.”

      My job is done here… heh-heh-heh.

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    • Naps
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:46pm

      What will all of you Beckistani’s say when we invade Iran,and find NOTHING? Just like Iraq. FEAR and MANIPULATION. It is truly the most powerful weapon in the world now. I just can’t believe how gullible the American people have become. This is going to be another Iraq,an expensive unnecessary war that will solve nothing. As for all of the Ron Paul haters on here. I will pray for you,in the hopes that your ignorance will fade away one day.
      Santorum= For the Military Industrial Complex
      Gingrich= For the Lobbyist’s
      Romney= For the Banks
      Paul= FOR THE PEOPLE!

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:06pm

      Ah Colt… I just finished talking you up, Brother… When you go to vote, remember all those names you’ve been called. The trucks carrying Iowa votes that disappeared into the thin air. The Maine Caucus that was cancelled because it was going to snow a little in February. The votes that went into the GOP’s spam filter. The way the media has acted this primary season… Time to clean the trash out of the GOP. Let that .01% fester with rage…. Click this and you’ll feel better.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N151eHvTQGc&feature=related

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    • colt1860
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 8:00pm

      @justangry Unlike some on here, I’m not married to the GOP. America’s history is full with the failures of parties (or movements), and rising of new ones. If any Establishment, media or elites try anything (again) out of the ordinary to corrupt, deceive or defraud my vote this primary season, mark my words, there will be hell to pay. The GOP is not untouchable and immune to the evilness and wickedness revolving around the world, or in this nation. I’m not one to be run over, especially by any set of blind leaders. I’ve got the time and energy to actually pursuit a worthwhile cause. I’ll try everything within peaceful and lawful means to ensure that my voice is heard, and that Liberty is preserved. I don’t care what others (especially those against me) might personally think. Courage is a respecter of no persons, and I will stand, when the time comes, against any and all who oppose our freedoms. I’m not one to just go along with any cause, nor am I easily persuaded to abandon my principles and values, but I’m open and willing to examine all things, and to follow the righteous path, though there be few walking there. I believe God’s hand is in all this, and that if we Americans believe we‘re immune to God’s correction and judgement, Woe be to us when trouble and destruction is at the door. Only God can save us now.

      As Father Mapple’s said: “PREACH THE TRUTH IN THE FACE OF FALSEHOOD.”

      Father Mapple’s Sermon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rWV8sBZ9ho

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 10:01pm

      @Colt, Brother, I think you’re sharp tack. I just thought you were a “Nobody but Paul” fella.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 10:27pm

      @justangry In the primary season, I sure as heck am a “Paul and nobody else” voter. I can’t keep voting for these “social progressive” candidates (as I called them in another thread) and expect different results. But I tell you what, if the GOP Establishment keeps this kind of stuff up, which has been going on in Iowa and Maine, you can’t count on me to not trust them come nomination time. And I will be right there with you. I’m just waiting for that one moment where, enough is enough. Unlike the above posters, I understand why you take that stance, and as a private citizen and active voter myself, I respect your choice to do so. I also understand that as an American, it’s your right and duty to do that which you believe (or know) is right (even if contrary to what the media says). I would take that step of writing in another candidate if the GOP is full of “you know what” come nomination time, but for now, I’ll take it step by step, and stick to the platform provided.

      However, if there is a brokered convention, and they nominate Jeb Bush (as they’ve planned already), there‘s no way I’ll vote for him. I don’t trust that whole bunch any longer. I will resist any aristocracy forming here in the US.

      God bless.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 3:22am

      Time 2, Got here a little late, spending quality time with my family. There is one reason that Paul supporters are so faithful to him. He has been right with everything he has warned about for over thirty years. Everyone touts how accurate Beck is with his predictions, but hardly anyone talks about how right Ron Paul has been. I dare you, no, I dare all of you to watch this entire video and learn the truth:

      http://americanvisionnews.com/1052/ron-paul-knows-nothing-about-foreign-policy-video

      This is for all of you that think Paul is crazy, and those that think he does nothing in Congress. He has been a lone voice for the protection of the Constitution during his time in Congress, being fought by progressives on the left and the right.

      If you continue to do what you’ve always done (elect progressives), you will continue to get what you’ve always got (big government). Why is it the Paul supporters are the only ones wise enough to see this? The bigger the government gets, the less freedoms you will enjoy.

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 4:59am

      @Colt, Yeah, I stole your point about social progressives, but a recent post kind of jogged my memory. I started thinking about what I learned about the progressive era in all those college history courses. What we’re now calling social progressives are essentially people with the same mindset as those who started the progressive era. Economy started to tank. Women began to get upset that their men were spending all the family’s money on booze and prostitutes. They wanted the government to step in and preserve the family unit… I need to dig out my history books and notes from the crawl space in the morning. This is going to be fun, for their “social conservative” platform sounds remarkably similar to that of the earliest progressives. Do a quick wiki search on the “progressive era”… it’s R. Santorum’s platform.

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  • Moozmom
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:31pm

    Pray for peace. If that does not change Iran, then obliterate every last one of them, quickly. Strength is what they understand, so wipe them and any other country off the face of the earth, fast.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:25pm

    One thing about it is all these politicians think their above the situation when the crap hits the fan. But they will be in the gutters just like the rest of us. I am pretty sure that these radicals will not want them anymore than we will.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:29pm

      I’m just astounded at the arrogance of people who think Iran is on the up and up. In that I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if Iran is publicizing one facility for advancements while another facility has already surpassed other advances.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:36pm

      After-all when someone knows people want to take something away from them, then they don’t flash it around. But Americans don’t really understand that concept, and most people I know flaunt the things they have because they feel secure enough to flaunt, and therefore their templated mind understands nothing else.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Case in point I have the ability to pay for my children’s college, but they do not know it, and unless they appear before me step by step with nakedness of heart, then I won’t be paying for their college. Of course, not that it matters now with the future men have set for them.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:43pm

      And since most people live an upside-down existence people will say I’m wrong, yet still I will not reward deception.

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:03pm

      What would be your rewards, for deception? You aren’t a glitter bomber are you?

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:25pm

    OH Goody – More to shoot at!

    Cry me a river – so I can cruise ya!

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  • Thevoice
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:21pm

    Anyone who has dealt with rat tunnels around a corn bin could tell you the best way to handle this is hit the front of the tunnel entrance with several thousand pounds of liquid gas. Then come back in 5 minutes and light the back door…Just watch them Iranians I mean rats come running out. Bunker buster no need. When the gas fumes in their nuclear underground explode. If the Israeli military needs some help I would be available.

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    • grassroots
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:36pm

      I agree with you but I am tired of hearing what Iran is doing. Stop giving them publicity. I am only interested in knowing what our government is going to do about Iran if anything. And if it is top secret tell us after you do something about Iran. If our government can keep their mouth shut!

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  • endgamer
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:15pm

    Be prepared for a false flag attack on our soil blamed on IRAN.. Just like 9/11 only much worse. Expect an entire city or many cities to get nuked.. It will be our government as the culprit to attack IRAN AND send survivors to repatriation camps (FEMA) to be microchipped or worse. More like exterminated.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:31pm

      Too Much of Alex Jones lunacy !
      Go back down into Moms basement

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    • Thevoice
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:40pm

      Really …And you believe what … That the sun is out during the day today because it’s a government hoax. That it‘s actually night but the government wants to control you into believing it’s day. And that if Ron Paul were elected. The reptile people would expose themselves…

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    • Tandem2011
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:47pm

      Another Iranian mole…seeding misinformation here to confuse “the dastardly Americans.”
      Stand firm, Yankee brothers, lest we be outwitted by a twitter from Allah!

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:53pm

      I’ve seen this new word the Ron Paul acolytes are now banding about using… “false flag.”

      The words you dweebs learn in Ron Paul summer camp is fun for the whole family when you return.

      Can I have a “paradigm’ for $100.00 Alex?

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:10pm

      Glenn beck used the term False Flag in his book. It is a term in use for quite a while, and yes it is overused by Alex Jones folks.
      Doesn‘t mean it hasn’t happened or won’t happen again.
      If we get into another war we might as well just tell our debtors to F-off, we are not going to pay and say we are debt free. I bet I could get elected on that platform.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:21pm

      HIDDEN. Well aware of the term. My point is that once a Ron Paul follower latches onto a term (no matter who said it first), they think it makes them look like some tactical expert or Military genius. I see nothing more than parrots on a Pirate’s shoulder when it comes to Paul groupies and such terminology on this kind of topic.

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:29pm

      It only takes a few hours of honest research to learn that 9/11 was an inside job. The evidence is so overwhelming it’s ridiculous. You certainly don’t learn by just listening to media personalities such as Alex Jones. I don’t listen to Alex Jones. I do my own research about everything.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:56pm

      RISEANDSHINE.

      Is that YOU Rosie O??

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 3:51am

      Time 2, Is that all you do is go to a story and just bash Paul? That is all you do. I am thinking you are an Obama supporter that is afraid of Paul getting the nomination. you are so ridiculous in the things you say. This is for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkWH8DB7b0

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  • MBA
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:14pm

    I guess obamy and hillary‘s touchy feeling talks aren’t working out so well for them or the oil business.

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  • Tandem2011
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:09pm

    Get ready for the school drills, children: “Duck and cover!”
    Everyone can rest easy under the current administration knowing that
    it will protect us from our disobedient brothers in Tehran should they
    try out their newest firecrackers on us. Obama always knows EXACTLY
    when to stand down in a crisis. Give the guy some credit!

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 6:06pm

      Duck and cover was replaced by planned parnethood and no child left behind.

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  • EndTheFedNOW
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:03pm

    Story:

    Neocons determined to start ww3 by stomping on other countries sovereignty. Liberals and Conseratives alike know that the military industerial complex is more important than the people of America. They know they must feed the bankers.

    Lord give us strength

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:10pm

      Good thing BHO has us disarming our military and nuclear capabilities. One other thing, BHO is looking to change his slogans of HOPE and CHANGE. Any suggestions??????

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:15pm

      ENDTHEFED
      “Neo-cons… stomping on other countries… military industrial complex… bankers”

      Thanks for the Democratic Party/OWS talking points. You must be a liberally educated Ron Paul neo-lib?

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    • Tandem2011
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:22pm

      You know your “neocon”script well. But you’re not reading between the stereotypes to know that the U.S. military will be our ONLY response to clerical Iran should it try to bring down “The Big Satan” (America)…unless you’re just rooting for the mullahs and Michael Moore to bring about happier days.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:34pm

      Impeacho,

      How does – Get down America – All we need now is some shuck and dive!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 3:56am

      Tandem, Really? Is that what you think? Iran has the capability of bringing down the U.S. Ha you make me laugh. I gave this to Time2, earlier, but you deserve it also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkWH8DB7b0

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  • mike_trivisonno
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:59pm

    All of the major powers, America, Russia, China, and Europe are profiting from the escapades of the Persian muslims. They are unable to refine their own oil and yet will spend wildly trying to build nuclear weapons. Like cavemen operating a computer, it provides both instruction and spectacle!

    They will, of course, fail. Because the entire foundation of their civilization is flawed beyond repair.

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    • Tandem2011
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:34pm

      We can never underestimate the folly of cavemen with nuclear ambitions. If there is a God, we’ve already been warned by age-old prophecies. If there isn’t a God, mankind will sooner or later run out of luck anyway. Let‘s just hope that Obama cares enough about America in his heart that he’s not sitting comfortably aboard Air Force One with all of his family and friends, like the Biblical Noah, when enemy missiles rain in upon us before year’s end.

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  • Ferrarello
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:59pm

    We are all going to fry really soon thanks to these Neo-Con warmongers and the left wing traitors….thanks.

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  • ICOSAHEDRON
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:56pm

    I guess we should start watching lots of Disaster Movies on DVD… Great training videos… Cuz‘ it’s just a matter of “time” don’tcha know…

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:56pm

    I thought the headline read Iran Poised For Major Nuclear Explosion. Dang. ‘No, Achmed-not THAT button!’

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  • Steelhead
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:53pm

    the diplomats asked anonymity because their info. is privileged? rumors rumers

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  • msconstrue
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:50pm

    and the plot thickens!

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  • dissentnow
    Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:49pm

    The same people who said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that they were going to attack us at any second are the same people who are now beating the war drums for a war with Iran. How many suckers are going to fall for the propaganda this time?
    Also, will this war be a slam dunk, as well? Will we be greeted as liberators?

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    • Glock31
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 1:58pm

      actually iraq had thousands of tons of precursor chemicals that could of been combined very quickly to make chemical weapons. read chris kyles’ new book

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    • EndTheFedNOW
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:05pm

      The US and Britan have chemical weapons that dont even need to be mixed, they are ready to go. We were tol the were WMD’s and if we didnt stop them they would blow up the world. I know suddam is crazy and killed his own people, but we didnt need to go there.

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:12pm

      @Glock Isn’t Mustard gas just chlorine and bleach or something stupid simple like that?

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:16pm

      “actually iraq had thousands of tons of precursor chemicals that could of been combined very quickly to make chemical weapons”

      Well, you’ve pretty much just described every country known to man. I know, lets start wars with everyone! Please tell me how we are going to pay for these wars. Last i checked, we’re broke.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:29pm

      GLOCK31. U.S. Army Combat Engineers on-site (take it from me) along with other “attached” units in Iraq knew/know the full extent of the term WMD. No need to elaborate.

      Getting the pacifist anti-war left and and the “other left” (the Ron Paul left) to accept that fact is just a waste of time.

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    • Tandem2011
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 2:59pm

      Iraq had chemical weapons that they used on American troops in the first Gulf War…effecting over a hundred soldiers (in one contemporary news report). There were recorded instances Iraqis used them (unsuccessfully) in the recent Iraq War too. We have yet to know the full story on Iraq’s WMDs.
      But we DO know that Iran will soon have them and little is being done because of the left’s “Cry Wolf” syndrome: “BUSH LIED AND SOLDIERS DIED!”

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:24pm

      Again, i ask, how do we pay for these wars?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:41pm

      TANDEM. “Iraq had chemical weapons that they used on American troops in the first Gulf War…effecting over a hundred soldiers (in one contemporary news report).”

      In the interest of fairness, I will have to say that statement is probably not correct from what I saw and know to be true. Troops however did come down with some illnesses possibly related to chemical weaponry, but that’s an entirely different story…

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 3:57pm

      @Time2 I’ve heard two explanations regarding Persian Gulf Syndrom. One was the depleted uranium rounds used by our tanks. The other was that the shots that were given to the troops had side effects. I don‘t know if there’s any truth to either of those theories. I didn’t hear anything about chem weapons being used, and I can’t imagine that I would not have heard about it if they did. I suppose it’s possible, but…

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 18, 2012 at 4:08pm

      JUST. Lot’s of theories out there… we did however come in contact with chem weapons. But like I said, that’s another story… the disposal / neutralization side.

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