Report: Iranian Officials Pressuring Christian Pastor to Convert Back to Islam
- Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:14am by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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Youcef Nadarkhani
Iranian officials are reportedly pressuring jailed Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani to convert back to Islam as he waits for the nation’s top leader to decide whether he should be put to death for becoming a Christian.
According to Fox News, government officials recently approached Nadarkhani in prison and gave him a book on Islamic literature, telling him they would return to discuss the material and hear his opinion.
The 300-page book, titled “Beshaarat-eh Ahdein” — meaning “Message of the two Eras,” a reference to the New and Old Testaments — claims Christianity is a fabrication and tries to establish the superiority of Islam, Fox reported.
Nadarkhani‘s fate is now in the hands of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, a state court said last month. The 34-year-old pastor has been jailed since 2009 on charges ranging from apostasy to rape to operating a brothel. Though he converted to Christianity as a teenager, he attracted authority attention after protesting that his sons were forced to learn about Islam in school. Nadarkhani said it was unconstitutional because it did not allow for the free practice of religion.
A court gave him the opportunity in September to recant his Christian beliefs, which Nadarkhani refused.
His case has attracted heavy international attention and the support of religious and human rights groups.
“This isn’t the first time that we have seen this strategy used in the Iranian jail system,” attorney Tiffany Barrans, the international legal director for the American Center for Law and Justice, told Fox of the attempt to influence Nadarkhani to convert back.
She wondered whether this was a sign Khamenei might be willing to give Nadarkhani another chance, or was “another way to trap him to allow the regime to continue to punish him or have documented evidence of blasphemy against Islam.”
There is no timeline for Khamenei to make a decision.



















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Diggyme
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:52pmPastor please refer your people to this web site GodsAnswertoEarthsProblemsisIsrael.com
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 6:23amI’m sure the Iranian prison system allows him to read the internet.
Report Post »Diggyme
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:47pmHe is armed with the Truth so if he is the real deal he will not “convert back” because you cannot give back to God what He has given to you….His Holy Spirit….He is a modern Paul and is in prison for Christ and it is an honor to serve the Lord in this way.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:28pmThe Christian pastor knows if he converts back he loses his soul.. whats losing your body comapred to losing your soul. So far I have seen more bravery out of this one man than I have any Christians in this country.. Here they give in, apologize and allow the left to control them! God help us!
Report Post »Argyle
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:32pmAbbygirl I agree!
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 3:42pmLet’s see, choose a dead pedophile and a fictitious god (satan) over a living God… I wonder what he will do.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 8:09pm@ WELCOME BLACK CARTER- Another person well versed in Islam giving their opinion about Islam. Polly want a *******! Look, don’t be a parrot, learn about Islam and then give us your opinion, otherwise your opinion is just like a body part we all have.
Report Post »jado1981
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 12:08am@ SurhanSurhan, okay then, how about this. Islam says that Jesus was a prophet that proceeded muhammed. Islam also says that all of the prophets before muhammed were not as great, but all pointed up to muhammed. That sure is funny, because, Jesus said so many times that, “I am the way, the TRUTH, and the light, NO MAN comes to the Father, EXCEPT, through me.” So this means, either A. He was telling the truth ,B. He is just a good man, but wrong, or C. He was a liar. It turns out, if a prophet is wrong, or a liar, they aren’t a prophet at all. Is that enough information about your religion that has a bas-tard (ismael) as the father?
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:50am@ JADO1981- The only liar is you sir. (1) Jesus (pbuh) prophesied the coming of Muhammad (pbuh), Jesus said: “I have yet many things to say unto you, but you can not bear them now, but when the “spirit of truth” (Muhammad) is come, he (Muhammad) will guide you into ALL truth.” (2) No true prophet of God would say he is better than a previous prophet. Prophet Muhammad made no such claim. If Muhammad did say that, how come you did not post it here for everyone to see? (3) You don’t know enough about your on religion to try to school somebody on religion. How can Ishmael be a bastard, when, your Bible says that Abraham was married to Ishmael’s mother:
Genesis 16:3-4: And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his WIFE.
4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes. (KJV)
Either you don’t know the meaning of the word bastard or you are being misled by your pastor.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:08am@Abby,if the Lord tarries,we will see alot more of this going on,I for one am not perfect but i have been forgiven,and to loose my life here on earth for Christs sake is to have an eternal life with my Lord in Heaven
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:32pm“How can Ishmael be a bastard, when, your Bible says that Abraham was married to Ishmael’s mother:
Genesis 16:3-4: And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his WIFE.
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hey gomer, I know this is hard for you to understand…but just because sarai gave abram hagar to be his wife, doesn’t mean he married her….did sarah pronounce them man and wife? did abram agree to take hagar as his wife? no she was just a concubine.
I would say get a clue, but its not possible in your case…oh and muhammed contradicts Jesus, so one or the other is a liar.
Report Post »rwinger261
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:34pmI challenge the Islamists to find an incident were a Muslim is threatened with ANYTHING for being a Muslim in this country, or any Western country. The truth of the matter is that Islam does not have a leg to stand on, was founded by a false prophet, has a false book, and will someday come to nothing. Jesus Christ is no mere prophet – He is the Son of God, and will someday crush Satanically inspired Islam under His feet at His coming. Muslims have the duty to repent and believe in Christ as their Savior from sin, who said that whoever saves his life shall lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake shall find it.
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 11:34pmAbbygirl. I have read and enjoyed many of your posts. I trust that you are praying for this pastor and his family. I know you know he has young children. God will not allow one hair on his head to be harmed without his approval. Man thinks that they are in charge. They are not. God is. To God be the glory.I will join you in prayer for this man and his family and congregation.
Report Post »Callisto
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:33amThat’s the truth, and Jesus said so himself – what good is it if a man gains the whole world and loses his soul? The persecution of the righteous will continue until Christ returns. This pastor may lose his life but ends up victorious over death and over evil in the end. Iranians are converting to Christianity in droves and the Islamists know it – their birthrates among Muslims have fallen drastically, their people don’t believe Islam is the answer, they have no jobs and no future. Christ comes for the downtrodden, the hopeless, the sick – which is why he comes for the Iranian people and for the Chinese. Materialism and the hopelessness of Communist atheism leads nowhere.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 12:55pm@SurhanSurhan: And there’s your problem. You recite the teachings of Christ then insert muhammed where convenient. Using that logic I could insert my name and claim myself to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. And since all I do is drink too much on occasion I’d be in a better position the the pedophile, self-proclaimed prophet muhammed.
But you’re allowed to believe what you want. And that’s the difference between being a Christian and being muslim who jail a priest under the threat of death without cause just because of his religion. You guys should really give freedom a try it’s done wonders for the whole world.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:26pmIt is the Standard Muslim way: Convert to Islam… or Die!
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:57pm@ LUKERW- You know nothing about Islam. Parrot!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:27pm“@ LUKERW- You know nothing about Islam. Parrot!”
yeah tell us your ‘wisdom’ especially since your monikor is that of a muslim assassin…
moron.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:53pmThey learned it from the Christians.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 4:01pm@ JOE1234- He was a Christian terrorist idiot!
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 5:11pmThe muslims are so deceived by satan, they will never see the truth until it is too late. Zhengpa65 and surhansurhan are prime examples.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 5:43pm@ BERBEL73- You‘re upset because we’re right.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 6:21pm“@ JOE1234- He was a Christian terrorist idiot!@ JOE1234- He was a Christian terrorist idiot!”
oh yeah sure was jackass….William Ayers dedicated a book to him (among others) yeah sure he was a christian. more liberal lies moron.
Sirhan Bishara Sirhan is a 25-year-old Palestinian Muslim immigrant who said he felt betrayed by Kennedy’s support for Israel in the 1967 Mideast war. As Yitzhak Rabin wrote in his memoirs: “The American people were so dazed by what they perceived as the senseless act of a madman that they could not begin to fathom its political significance.” What was its political significance? According to a report made by a special counsel to the L.A. County District Attorney’s office, Sirhan shot Kennedy for his support of Israel, and had been planning the assassination for months. In an outburst during his trial, he confessed, “I killed Robert Kennedy willfully, premeditatedly, and with twenty years of malice aforethought.” (Twenty years, of course, date back to Israel’s declaration of nationhood in 1948). When Yasser Arafat’s Black September terrorist stormed the Saudi Embassy in Khartoum in March of 1973 and took US Ambassador Cleo Noel, Charge d’Affaires George Curtis Moore, and others hostage, Sirhan’s release was one of their main demands.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_Undressed:_Today%E2%80%99s_News_from_Peaceful_Islam
yeah thats why the PLO wantedd him released because he was a good christian…moron.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 6:23pm“ZengaPA65
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:53pm
They learned it from the Christians.
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yeah I must have missed that verse…why don’t you post it for us?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 6:27pmhere’s the rest of that quote….and it makes a very good point, if sirhan wasn’t involved with the PLO why would they kidnap and murder people in order to get his release???
On March 2, 1973, after Nixon rejected that demand, Arafat was overheard and recorded by Israeli intelligence and the U.S. National Security Agency giving the code words for the execution of Noel, Moore, and Belgian diplomat Guy Eid, who were shot to death. James Welsh, a Palestinian analyst for the N.S.A., went public with charges of a cover-up of Arafat’s key role in the planning and execution of these kidnappings and murders. (There is no statute of limitations on murder.) If Sirhan had acted independently of the PLO, why were they willing to kill Americans to try to gain his freedom?
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 8:20pm@ JOE1234- Sirhan was a Christian Arab born in Jerusalem who strongly opposed Israel. In 1989, he told David Frost “My only connection with Robert Kennedy was his sole support of Israel and his deliberate attempt to send those 50 bombers to Israel to obviously do harm to the Palestinians”. Some scholars believe that the assasination was one of the first major incidents of political violence stemming from the Arab Israeli conflict in the Middle East.
So JOE1234, you my brother/sister are a liar. You changed the word Christian to Muslim in order to promote your agenda. From now on we can’t believe a word you post here. You will say anything to make Muslims look bad, whether it’s true or not.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 8:49pmIt the Muslim way to spew vulgar language, lies…lots of lies, to anyone who stands against them or opposes them. I have never in my entire life seen such filth and lies coming from Muslims claiming to be so pious. It would make a sailor turn red. They claims they are clean, because they wash themselves several times a day before saying prayers, but as Jesus says, it the cleanliness of the heart that counts. Clearly, the Islamic heart is full of vile darkness. I know, that this Christian man is not guilty of any of the contrived stories these fanatic Muslims claim. They are just doing what Allah/Mohamed did best, and that is lying to further their cause. It is called Taquiyya. For excellent information about the real Islam, go to http://www.islam-watch.org. See the messages filthy language some Muslims leave when the truth is shed on Islam.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 8:51pmLUKERW, you are so right. I do know, because I did study the Quran under the instruction of a Muslim. That God, the holy spirit was always with me to protect me from falling into this secretly violent ideology and cult.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:03pmLUKERW, you are so right. I do know, because I did study the Quran under the instruction of a Muslim. That God, the holy spirit was always with me to protect me from falling into this secretly violent ideology and cult. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YP3P_q0vYw
Report Post »http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=472&fld_id=473&doc_id=1340
joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:44pm““My only connection with Robert Kennedy was his sole support of Israel and his deliberate attempt to send those 50 bombers to Israel to obviously do harm to the Palestinians”. ”
thanks for confirming what I posted, he was a muslim…the christians are persecuted by those muslim arabs known as ‘palestinians’
“So JOE1234, you my brother/sister are a liar. You changed the word Christian to Muslim in order to promote your agenda
you’re not my brother you lying piece of trash. I posted the proof, do you think anyone would belive the word of a wacko liar like you?? what a buffoon.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:45pm“You will say anything to make Muslims look bad, whether it’s true or not.”
I don’t have to say anything, its what the muslims do that makes them look bad….
oh don’t worry though, you get your way for 7 years…you get your mahdi…he’ll take you to hell with him…..
Report Post »Pinkie
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:22pmThere is no assurance they will spare his life if he recants. They are afraid they will make him a martyr if they kill him now. If he recants his death will be meaningless, no one will remember him. I pray with all my might that he will remain in the faith. It’s easy to sit here in the comfort of my home and say that, but he is in my prayers. God help us all.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:54amPastor Youcef Nadarkhani Stand strong in your FAITH SIR, and Jesus will Reward you in Heaven! My prayers are with you.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:00pmAmen.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:11pmHe will. You know denying the Father is two fold. It is much worse to deny Him in your heart them merely on the outside. If the outside mattered so much then Jesus wouldn’t have said to put yourself into a closet and pray.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:15pmIf you think this man should die to prove he’s a true Christian, you’re more of an extremist than the extremist! If the story is true (which I doubt) he should give them what they want. They will leave him alone and he can leave the country and move to America. The cradle of civilization, the bastion of open mindedness, where you are free to practice what ever religion you want to practice, and build your Mosque where ever you want to build it, even at ground zero.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:15pmSee here: when I am told Moses to put his hand into his bosom it came out white as snow, and then he put it into his bosom again and it became as Moses flesh (spirit). Therefore when I told the Jehovah that God told me I was going to Heaven, that was me bringing him to my bosom, and he turned white as snow, but when I brought him to my bosom again he stayed white as snow because he was lukewarm.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:20pmTherefore it was that I stoned the Jehovah witness and he turned white as snow and it didn’t sink into his fore-head, he did not turn to me when I brought him back into my bosom.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:22pm@ ELIASIM- Are you insane?
Report Post »Argyle
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:31pmI will continue to lift up Pastor Youcef, his family and his legal council in prayer. STAND STRONG BROTHER! Pray for our country so we are prepared for when it happens here. I know in Revelation it will come to light! Prepare your heart, thoughts and life so you will be able to stand firm when you are tested! Call on the name of Jesus and you will be saved!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:33pmWhat’s your definition of insane? Different than you? If I’m surrounded by insane people, but I am the sane one, your majority rules that I am the insane one, but I am not. I should also mention that a person being the last one on a ship, can be the first to get off. Unless of course you think I’m talking about the Titanic, which I am not.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:36pmSurhanSurhan
We should trade you for him & his family. I will really really like Iran & they will like you.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:44pmTherefore if it is that I am telling people that “Stoning” in the Bible doesn’t mean to throw Geo-material like granite at people, then it means I’m the insane one? Therefore if I‘m telling people that David didn’t literally cut-off Goliath’s head, that makes me the insane one? Does it make me the one whom is dangerous to society or does the person who believes David really took the life of a giant the person whom is dangerous to society? People whom believe the little child David literally slew a giant are the dangerous people to the earth, to God, and to the entire universe. Not me. You are the insane ones.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:04pm@ ELIASIM- I’m talking about your ramblings, your improper use of the word whom, your belief that someone literally died for your sins. All that combined, makes me think you are insane, not just mislead like your fellow Christians.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:25pmSurhanSurhan,
Report Post »But you see that’s where you are wrong. He didn’t die for your sins, but that he died for the sins of the entire world who lived up to the point of his crucifixion. And he also sacrificed himself for the sins of the Father, because the Son is always greater than the Father, and the Father learns from the Son and vice versa.
Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:46pmHow is it hard to believe that the Son is always greater than the Father. Except for the fact that Radical Muslims have the concept upside-down, they practice the same thing when they train their children, except that God the Father didn’t have to train Jesus, and Jesus didn’t force others to sacrifice themselves for him, but that Jesus freely sacrificed himself for the Father.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:51pmAnd I know that many of you will not accept the truth, but those who will are protected in God.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 5:57pm@ELIIASIM..Where on earth did you ever get the idea that the Son is greater than the Father? The Father is Supreme…the Son is Authority and the Holy Spirit is the Divine Spirit of God. My goodness Eliasim…God never sinned..he cannot bear to even look upon sin…that is why He hid Moses in the cleft of the rock and shielded him..and told Moses he could only see the backside as He was passing. that was a real thing Eliasim…not some esoterical nonsense. God is Spirit..He has not sinned. The Father and the Son are One..if they are in one accord…Jesus is the only man who never sinned as he was God in Spirit. as he was conceive of the Holy Spirit in Mary’s womb. His was a divine conception…born of a virgin. When John the Baptist baptized Him..the Holy Spirit descended upon Him and the Lord God said “THis is my SOn of whom I am well pleased.
Report Post »@SurhansSurhan… Mohmmed was just a man who was deceived by a church…not the protestant one. He had hoped at the end of his life that all or your people would recognize Jesus’s divinity because of His virgin birth..Jesus is the only way to God..There is no other. God said to be saved…you must believe that Jesus is the only begotten SOn of God. . that he died for your sins and rose the third day. This is for all present. and future and the ones in the past before dying. After you are dead…it is too late. You must read the scriptures in the Bible..New Testament and abide by them,, God tells us who will not enter the kingdom.
zoro51
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:48amISLAM IS A CULT not a religion IF it was secure in its selfr why then reindoctrinate back into it when SOME ONE WANTED to get out of the HATE N DEATH aspect to ISLAM terrorists KILL dont care WHOM they kill BUT that they KILL. IF he referts back they will STILL KILL HIM.. they dont care theyll strap a bomb to the elderly new born n chuck them at a infidel.. again MUSLUMS KILL its a CULT not a religion,…
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:59amHere is the problem. This pointless, rambling rhetoric of a mad man preaching more hate. Please, read this again and find me an objective point.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:17pmThat is his point, even in his own mind he doesn’t make since.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:44pmWhat a billion Muslims Truly think.
http://youtu.be/TDPUoTxjcDM
Report Post »Rajabear1
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:48amI would tend to think by this latest move of the Iranian government, the other charges they conveniently filed on him to ‘prove’ to the world he was a deviant and a criminal, wold be trumped up? That perhaps he really was jailed for religious persecution? Why, I’m shocked! It almost like these radical muslim leaders think the rest of the world is so dumb when they tell the most outrageous lies. This is just 1 of so many. I wonder if they think everyone believes them because their citizens are so brainwashed into submission and for the most part out of touch with the real world that they think we are so easily manipulated? So bizarre. I pray the Lord gives him strength to stand against the evil he must face every moment of every day.
Report Post »peanut_gallery
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:42amChristianity is faith in Jesus Christ. It’s not about changing religions…it’s a change of the heart that nobody can ever take away from you. It’s like demanding water to stop being wet – can’t happen. God sees our hearts, not our worldly religion which can never save us. Jesus came to save the world from their sins (truly present in the world today, would you not say?) so that man can live eternally with Him. You go man, keep shining your light in this dark world!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:34ambill and hillary aren’t going. To HEAVEN, that is. They have a special place reserved in hell along side van jones, georgie porgie, trmpketa, and others: pelosi, reid, waters, sheehan, the obamamites, and others.
PRAY ON, AMERICA. Pray for our brothers and sisters in the faith around the world. Pray for the REAL JEWS (not the fake ones). Pray HARD for those on the borderline of accepting JESUS or not for time IS running out. THANK GOD for HIS courage for us, HIS protection over, around, behind, and in front of us.
JESUS CHRIST IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. JESUS, THE SOON AND COMING KING. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess the JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. Amen and amen.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:50amIf Christ truly is your savior, how can you condemn others to hell… or, at a minimum, pretend to know the mind of God? This is the self-centered arrogance of the Christian/Jewish (Netanyahu-type) evangelical, using religion to push a secular agenda.
Report Post »No different from those you accuse.
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:04pm@ SMACKDOWN33- Right On!
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:10pmConsider this: IF God can prevent bad things from happening to us, yet chooses not to, then he cannot possibly be all-good. On the other hand, if God cannot prevent any of the bad things that happen to us in our lifetime, he is not all-powerful! This conundrum is what keeps me from embracing any of the world’s religions. I won‘t waste anyone’s time by listing all the evil in the past 2,000 years in the name of God.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:39pmsmackdown33
Your screen name is contrived. No one watching wrestle mania would have a mind set like your. Your a Surhan Surhan sock puppet.
BTW your done.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:53pm@ WINEDUDE- Don’t judge a religion by the people of the religion. Read their religious book and if the religious book has ALL the attributes of what you think God will have, then that is the true religion.
Example: God does not get tired, so if a religious book says he got tired and rested, or he rested on the seventh day, this deity can not be God, slumber nor sleep can over-take God. God doesn’t eat food, he feeds you and me, but he, himself, is not feed. So if a religious book says he ate broiled fish and honeycomb, that deity can not be God, broiled fish and honeycomb are not His diet. God does not get thirsty, so if a God says in his religious book “I thirst” he is not God. See, when you eat food and drink liquids, you have the call of nature and must use the toilet, and if there is no toilet, you will have to find a rock or a bush to excrete. God doesn’t do that, he doesn‘t need a toilet because he doesn’t excrete.
Get the picture? If you find a religious book like I just described, that is not a true religion, shun it and find the true religion, it’s out there you have to look for it. It might be right under your nose.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:32pm“Example: God does not get tired, so if a religious book says he got tired and rested, or he rested on the seventh day”
hey gomer, I know this is hard for you to understand, but He did that as an example for us…not that He needed rest…..duhhhhhh
“. So if a religious book says he ate broiled fish and honeycomb, that deity can not be God,”
oh so your God can’t become human, *its* not very powerful is it now?…My God did…..because your ‘god’ does not exist…mine does
oh I also like how your god can’t fight his own battles…but needs your brain-dead stooges to kill for him…my God fights His own battles…as you’ll find out to your horror when your muslim friends invade israel…
oh and my God isn’t afraid of questions….and freedom of religion…yours sure is.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 7:12pm@SMACKDOWN…Jesus said “I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world…I don’t judge you but My Word judges you…so you see…you can choose to read, and believe God’s Word and obey it…or you can choose not to..
Report Post »@SURHANSURHAN ..God created the earth in 6 days..God’s time is not our time..The Bible says God rested on the seventh day.. Genesis 2 3-4 God made man in His image. God’s time is not our time..God had completed creation…It did not say that He was tired..That is something that you read into it.. When Jesus, the only begotten Son of God said that He was thirsty..it was to fulfill scripture…In John 1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God..1:3 All things were made by Him and without Him nothing was made..Jesus is known as the Word.. Jesus being 100% God in Spirit and 100% man in the flesh…he lived without sin amongst us…Again..you can choose to believe something that post-dated Jesus Christ or you can choose to believe a religion which was a mere deception by an evil pope who wanted Jerursalem for the vatican city.. Satan deceived your people and is at the helm of your religion. God said..there were those created for mercy and those created for destructon…to show the ones upon whom He has mercy…just how merciful He is… Your religion does not hold water..Jesus will never come and admit that Mohamed is the real Prophet…because he just isn’t..Did Mohamed die for your sins? Did he rise on the 3rd
This_Individual
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:08pmSMACKDOWN- “If Christ truly is your savior, how can you condemn others to hell…”
Report Post »Because this person is a perfect example of how socialism has infiltrated Christianity, as it has into many communities which some may be surprised to know. Nonetheless, we should continue to treat eachother on an individual basis and not assume that all within a community has been infected with the virus of socialism.
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:21amTry teaching Christianity in Israel , NOT! Don’t believe me, listen to Glenn’s radio show yesterday or just look it up. I’m sure I’m a anti-Semite for bring this up.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:42amYou have touched on the hypocrisy of America. Israel is a deplorable, oppressive, ethnocentric theocracy, and we unconditionally support this evil. Everything else is blow-back for this stupidity. It should be remembered that the Arabs/Muslims once welcomed us in their land… Israel put an end to that; and do not acquaint Jews with Zionists. Zionists are to Jews what Nazis were to Germans.
Report Post »Sad state of affairs. And now, they are ratcheting it up to attack Iran, just like they did for Iraq. All for Israel.
joe1234
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:35pm“Israel is a deplorable, oppressive, ethnocentric theocracy”
you’re talking about the muslim states where there is no freedom of anything…oh how many jews live your ‘free’ muslim states?? hmmmmm???? its called projection, get some help.
“and we unconditionally support this evil. Everything else is blow-back for this stupidity. It should be remembered that the Arabs/Muslims once welcomed us in their land”
you mean like the barbary pirates who enslave us? you’re a liar….they never welcomed us.
“Israel put an end to that; and do not acquaint Jews with Zionists. Zionists are to Jews what Nazis were to Germans.
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the only nazis I see are you fascist muslim nazis.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:41pmJust curious, what were the crusades about? The crusades occurred because of Muslims persecuting religions outside of Islam, and not as a means to persecute Muslims.
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:10amIran is a prime example of why we have seperation a Church and State. As far as I’m conserned the radical Islamic animals can eat each other. We can allways throw the scaps in the pig pin. CARRY ON McDUFF
Report Post »Tronix
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:47amLook at his face; he seems a very peaceful person. Maybe the times are coming, and we must be prepared to be as strong as this Pastor is. God bless him and his family. Lest pray for them.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:46amThe worse thing we can do is become sheep. Islam has done it before and will if allowed do it again.
Egypt, Syria, Turkey, Palestine: all of them together were once known by one name: Christendom.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:57amI spoke with a teacher from Texas recently..this person told me that they are getting lots of foriegn students from Berma and so many different countries that I couldn’t keep up with them all. I have the deepest regards for this poor man…thank God that he is a Christian, because if they do murder him..or whenever he passes from this world…we know where he will be going..so he’s good. It concerned me about all of the Christians in Iran..because I knew that there are great many of them there..but whatever happens..we must pray that GOd gives them strength. I discovered this on the Council on Foreign Relations….they give you a projection on muslim demographics..they are liberal and of course they try to make you believe that this was what the Catholics suffered and other organizations and that this is just a phase..
Report Post »http://www.cfr.org/united-states/muslims-united-states/p25927#p2
momsense
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:44amWhy would anyone want to convert to a religion as barbartic as this–subjugating women, raping children and young girls, forced marriages, beatings. beheadings, mutilations even murder—all in the name of Allah ?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:32pmSome are forced into dhimmitude and made live as second-class citizens. The suffering Coptic community, once dominant in Egypt, is now a mere remnant.
Others must convert or die, like the Hindus or Zoroastrians for example. The later is nearly extinguished from the earth.
But eventually, the goal is a homogenous culture of pure Islam like that found in Arabia where no other culture is permitted expression.
Arabia. It is there we we will find the heart of the enemy. And it is found not in the people, but in the language and teachings of Islam.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:16amEveryone; pray for this brother of ours in Christ. He is fighting the good fight. He needs your prayers in Jesus’s name.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:25amAmen. He faces the evil that masquerades as good here in the states.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:47pmWhat is even more fascinating is that he dares extend Western Civilization into the lands of an ancient foe, Persia.
It adds tremendously to the weight he bears.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:50amEliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:36am
I mean duh, how can a person be allowed to live in a world where they can affect the universe for their own selfish desires as men do? Just look what men do to men, look how they destroy wild-life by both subduing it and then thinking they can help it.
Eliasim why are you so hung up on God giving man a little bit of dominion over the animals and the birds in Genesis? God gave man a little bit of what He has all of, that is dominion, He is the King! Are you a PETA member? I hope not, Peter said, kill and eat!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:06amNo, but the way PETA people behave and think in their heart does represent the way the light is divided.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:10amAnd dominion doesn’t mean to have the right to crush them or tamper with them. But that it means your dry-ground, that being human self awareness (actually I should rephrase that because some people are not self-aware, and they are as dreadful of “Man” as the other beasts of the field), that’s why God gave “Mankind” the dry-ground of self awareness and seeing the brighter light.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:20amHa. I just love it when a Jehovah Witness comes to my door to ask me if I know whether or not I’m going to Heaven, and I tell them “Yes” because God told me. The look on their face is priceless.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:39amYou see, there was a reason that Jesus went to people to make them his Apostles whom were people of hot or cold thinking. Because he knew the know-it-alls would not hear him. Therefore why bring a Jehovah Witness into my house? There’s no point. They come to my door hoping to bring me into their folds, and me knowing that they don’t know the truth and neither will they accept it. And they hope that the people they come upon know a few things about Jesus already, and therefore when I tell them that God is going to enrich me with a Ferrari in Heaven and a virgin wife, they just walk away.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:45amGARYM….to ELIASIM Eliasim why are you so hung up on God giving man a little bit of dominion over the animals and the birds in Genesis? God gave man a little bit of what He has all of, that is dominion, He is the King! Are you a PETA member? I hope not, Peter said, kill and eat!
Report Post »Gary…When God said to Kill and eat…That was Peter having a dream in which he saw all those animals coming down on that cloud and when God said…”Arise Peter..kill and eat ” and Peter said..”I can’t eat anything unclean” and God said.”.Do not call anything that I have made unclean” Okay Gary..i know a lot of people think that this is when God gave permission for the Jews to eat pork…but when you think about it…what did Peter do when he got up? He didn’t go slaughter a pig and eat it..instead..this was his que to go and witness to the gentiles, because they were considered dogs by the Jews..of course when you go to a man’s home..you are to eat whatever he has prepared..but neither is permitted to judge the other..whether one eats only herbs or one eats meat..just like the holy days…we are not to judge each other..for which ones we keep and which ones we don’t.. our greatest command is to love the Lord our God with all of our heart mind and soul and to live each day unto the Lord. The second greatest command is to love our neighbor as ourselves….In the garden…the animals weren’t slaughtered…that only happened after the fall of Adam and Eve..
Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:50amTherefore it was when the Jehovah Witnesses came to my door, the thing I did to them was that I “Stoned” them. See how that works and what the Bible really means by “Stoning”, huh, huh, do ya?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:03amThe Lukewarm Jehovah Witnesses came to my door, and I spit them out. That is why unless people become like a child, then they will not acquire the Kingdom of Heaven.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:10amNow if I hadn‘t sensed that the Jehovah’s that came to my door were settled on their lees, and that I was the loser whom needed saving. Then, I would have invited them into my house, and (like David) I would have drawn their own sword to use against them to help them see the truth.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:31pmeliasim is perhaps the most dangerous poster ever to stain the pages here at the Blaze. Just enough twisted bible references to deceive, coax and tempt “searchers” away from our Lord Jesus Christ. Satan too is very good at this. Be not fooled by an occasional cogent or persuasive point, trickery and brilliance are the tools of Satan. Not to say that eliasim is brilliant, I hear the ramblings of a deranged mind… Charles Manson was a bible expert with a genius mentality as well.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 3:52pmEliasim,
The tongue of wise ones does good with knowledge, but the mouth of the stupid ones bubbles forth with foolishness. – Proverbs 15:2
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:46amMy thoughts and prayers are with this man. Lord, this man needs Your peace beyond understand in his hour of need. I find it DISPICABLE that they are attempting to persuade this man to turn in his belief in Jesus Christ or face death. The bible predicts this in the latter days and I am afraid that this is the beginning of the persecution of Christians. I know its been going on for a while now but it is becoming more and more common and they are now reporting the persecution almost daily. It will continue and become so common that Christians will begin to go into hiding in order to avoid whats coming. As Christians we should all be praying for this man, for his family and friends and pray that he receives the Lord’s blessing while the Holy Spirit gives comfort and aid to this dear Christian. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:46amChristianity is the only reason this Pastor was arrested. This is an example of what will happen to all Christians if the caliphate should come to pass or if you should be alive during the tribulation when the anti-christ rules the earth, a person will be asked to denounced Jesus or die, it the person does denounce Jesus, they will go to hell when die later, we know the best choice!
11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:55amHey dumb dumb. The “Mountains” are the spiritual mountains of your heart which are not carved by hands. That’s why the Bible also says that men will bury gold in the mountains (this is where it speaks of actual dirt mountains), and later they will return to it being worthless.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:59amWhen I call people dumb, stupid, or a Moron I mean it in the nicest of ways. That is to say you are a hypocrite, and not thoughtful – meaning you are of a stupid thought. But because you are such a pansy waste, criticism bothers you because that’s how society and your selfish heart has conditioned you, by that which your soul isn’t even measurable.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:28amEliasim,
Report Post »You do know pride is a sin – I am afraid you have just a wee bit too much of yourself.
Through the ages Mankind has thought they had all or most of the answers – They did not – we do not and you do not. Belief is just that – Mans Knowledge or lack thereof is the exact opposite of Godly wisdom. My money is on GOD.
PS explain what gravity is smart guy? we don not know what is keeping are arse in the chair – pretty fundamental – huh
Steve
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:29amgaryM
Guess Eliasim isn’t a big fan on scriptures.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:42am@ELIASIM
“The “Mountains” are the spiritual mountains of your heart which are not carved by hands.”
Wrong. The only dumb dumb is you ELIASIM. When the lord said go to the mountains, he mean it. He meant flee. Don’t rationalize the gospel. One can’t pick and choose what is literal and what is figurative. Otherwise, you become one of the “false prophets.”
Report Post »Carter John
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 12:49pm@eliasm
Report Post »If you consider quoting from the Bible as dumb I would pose to you a question. Did you ever read the entire Bible?
Americamydream
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:40amHang in there man…. Jesus will never leave alone.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:40amImpossible, rose-ellen has educated us extensively day in and day out to the fact of how “civil” these poor soles that the barbaric, war mongering Americans keep destroying are. There is no way this peace loving population would’t accept a Christian amongs them. Rose, we need to get to the bottom of the out right lie and expose the evil repoters spewing such garbage. ( see how stupid that sounds Rose?)
Report Post »Rodster
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:39amI’d say by looking at his picture, Iran and the Muslim world needs more individuals like him. He looks to be a peaceful man especially when you contrast that to the fire bombing, yelling and angry militant Muslims who want to kill you for the slightest reason.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:46amI’m afraid he is going to show them what true martyrdom is all about.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:37amThe mullahs that control Iran are barbaric and are probably torturing the pastor,stay strong pastor and God bless you.
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:31amComing to a Cathoic university near you, then to your neighborhood, then to your home. It is clearly written in Revelations (blessed be those who read/hear Revelations) those in Christ will be demanded to renounce their faith or be killed. This poor guy is the beginning of that evil. I pray in that horrible moment, when I too, am presented with that decision that I have the faith and backbone to die for my faith.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:47amIt is the only book in the Bible that promises a blessing for reading it.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:08amWhile praying for Pastor Nadarkhani I also add a prayer for my own courage if this decision is ever placed before me. I am afraid that many of us will be forced to make decisions that we never dreamed we would have to make in the coming days.
Report Post »May God give this man courage.
BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 11:25amIt is “Revelation” no “S” on the end as it is a revelation that Jesus is GOD manifest in flesh.
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:51am@ BOMUSTGO
Report Post »True that Bo, it is indeed “revelation”…no “s”. TY for the correction.
txn4justice
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:23amThey want to control your mind. No freedom to believe in another faith if you choose.
Hang in there Pastor. We are with you in Jesus’ name.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:31amYes he should not convert. Believing in the one true Jesus and son of God, will make it easier for people to understand by what means the spirit‘s of conquering people become transferred to other world’s where their is much more advanced civilizations. That way people won’t come burning in, and get mentally destroyed.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:36amI mean duh, how can a person be allowed to live in a world where they can affect the universe for their own selfish desires as men do? Just look what men do to men, look how they destroy wild-life by both subduing it and then thinking they can help it.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:39amCan you imagine what Hillary and Bill Clinton would do to the universe if their spirit was allowed to exist on an advanced world?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 9:49amHey, the earth isn’t called “The field” for no reason ya know. And Jesus didn’t say it is ripe for the harvest for no reason either. And Jesus didn’t say the Father goes away for no reason either. These ways I am explaining the teachings of Jesus is how Jesus taught them to the Apostles. And they told no one else, well except some Kings did torture it out of some Apostles. And therefore these things have been presented to men in the form of the Bible.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:01amELIASIM : “Can you imagine what Hillary and Bill Clinton would do to the universe if their spirit was allowed to exist on an advanced world?”
I think their spirits wouldn’t know what to do. If they ever make it to heaven, they probably would have a complaint and want to control somebody. I think they have built their lives around complaining about and controlling other people. The drive to do good in the world is not their primary motivation. Obama has the same problem. You don’t do good by dividing your country and trying to disrupt the economics of your country just to stay in power.
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