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Report: James Holmes Sent Notebook ‘Full of Details’ of Massacre Plans to Psychiatrist Before Attack

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AP

Alleged movie theater gunman James Holmes mailed a notebook “full of details about how he was going to kill people” to a University of Colorado psychiatrist before the attack, but it sat unopened in a mail room until Monday, Fox News reported.

According to Fox, police and FBI agents were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora on Monday after the psychiatrist said he received a package he thought was from Holmes. While that package turned out to be from someone else, a search of the mail room netted another package for the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address.

“Inside the package was a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people,” a law enforcement source told Fox. “There were drawings of what he was going to do in it – drawings and illustrations of the massacre.”

According to Fox, “among the images shown in the spiral-bound notebook’s pages were gun-wielding stick figures blowing away other stick figures.”

One source said the package had been in the mail room since July 12, eight days before the shooting.

The notebook is now in FBI possession. The agency declined to comment on the matter, citing a gag order on the case.

According to Fox, the psychiatrist the package was meant for is a professor at the school who treated patients at a psychiatry outpatient facility. It was not clear whether the psychiatrist had ever had contact Holmes, who dropped out of the school’s neuroscience doctoral program last month.

Twelve people were killed and 58 others injured when Holmes allegedly opened fire during a midnight screening of the new Batman film, “The Dark Knight Rises.” Holmes appeared in court for the first time on Monday; charges against him are expected to be filed July 30.

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  • mcmeador
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 8:09pm

    So he called to report that he thought he had a package from Holmes that turned out not to be from Holmes, but then they actually found one from him? That sounds a little weird…

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    • Wilma
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 10:11pm

      That was the first thing that came to mind when I first heard this. The story as reported does not make any sense. Yet, not one reporter has questioned this account. Have they all gone brain dead?

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    • JustCarolyn
      Posted on July 29, 2012 at 12:13pm

      This story never made sense from the beginning which is probably why the media pulled it for a few hours last Thursday so they could coordinate the “details.” At one point, they even tried to claim that it was James who had told them about it, claiming that he said he wanted it back because it was his property and would go against client/patient confidentiality. They, of course, had to scrap that story because it didn’t mesh with their “James hasn’t said a word” story.

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  • rgillespie1
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:00pm

    As the ultimate irony, this guy’s execution should be broadcast live to every movie theater nationwide.

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  • huberto
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:16pm

    Who sent in the first package with the “alleged Homes notebook”? Shouldn‘t the first package’s sender be interviewed by some law-enforcement agency???

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  • battles
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:06pm

    The psychiatrist apparently thinks that there is some kind of ‘psychiatrist / client privilege’.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:23pm

      Actually, there is a psychiatrist patient privilege. A psychiatrist is a doctor and he can’t break privilege without a court order. But that has nothing to do with this case as far as we know. The psychiatrist called the cops, and we don’t even know if the killer was his patient.

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    • formidable_foe
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:54pm

      If the psychiatrist never treated him, the psychiatrist could certainly say that. Regardless of whether the psychiatrist did or didn’t, Holmes sending the notebook is just further evidence of premeditation.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 10:21pm

      Actually, the doctor could have taken the murderer and put him in an asylum for treatment and rehabilitation or for his own protection. While the patient might have the right to confidentiality, the doctor has the responsibility to protect his patient, even from himself in some instances. IF he sent in a package detailing a mass murder that he wanted to commit, then that is good enough for this Libertarian to say the doctor can take him into medical custody under the auspices that the aforementioned is not of sound mind. The police are not necessary until after the event takes place and people are hurt or dead.

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    • formidable_foe
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:44am

      @SGTB,

      Commiting someone is not as easy as you may think. The person must be found to be an active danger to self/others. Violent drawings in a notebook would not be enough grounds. Plans of an assault may not even cut it, depending on the timeline. The subject could testify in the commitment hearing that he made those drawings months or years ago and deny any CURRENT homicidal thoughts or plans. Then what? Every state is different, but even if you were able to commit him, you would have to continually justify keeping him. He may stay 2 or 3 days, then be discharged. Remember that someone who is truly psychotic can fool even the best psychiatrist. My gut feeling is that this guy is malingering.

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  • LovinUSA
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:06pm

    Piss poor job of acting.

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  • Dudemau
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:27pm

    a psychiatrists patient murders then the psychiatrist testifies in his defense? what planet is this?

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  • Dudemau
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:24pm

    What? Psychiatry connected to another mass murder? Noooooo!? Who would have thought. Funny how mass murderers are always connected AFTER they see a psychiatrist. Oh well, we should have known after all the commercials for the meds warn of suicidal tendencies. If all he wanted to do was kill himself we’d all be better off. I think truth in advertising requires an inclusion of “may want to kill everyone but himself” to the label.

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  • WILL_OF_LANDREW
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:00pm

    Mail rooms are all the same now those slackers can rest in th knowledge that their incompetance may have contributed to those people being killed.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:39pm

    “I have this package from Holmes. Oh, no. Wait. That’s not it. I’ll keep looking. Coincidentally and conveniently (don‘t want to waste the FBI’s time, ya know), I found another one.”

    ARREST HIM! HE’S IN ON IT!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:04pm

      As I remember..Joe Biden didn’t want to run as Vice President to Obama..but when they convinced him and he took office..You know..Joe the gaffer..constantly embarrassing them said in essence this..
      “When the American people discover what they have in store for them..there is going to be a Revolution”.
      Henry Kissinger said..in essence ..”When the New World Order is Established..alot of people are going to die..but the world will be a better place for the ones who survive.”
      They are now feeding us poisonous GMO foods..They actually grow their own poison, and harbor a protein similar to ours but not..and it grows exponetially in our intestines never stopping even after ceasing to eat them..they are suspected of causing cancer. auto immune diseases and Alzhimers. 70% of our food supply is GMOs while the gov is storing natural seed for their own future use as is Bill Gates.
      Other countries have outlawed GMOs and what ones have not only have 5 % in their food supply..Monsanto threatens to sue anyone labeling these GMOs and government officials are highly involved. I understand that flu vacs have cancer cells in them .

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:33pm

    He premeditated this murdering spree.. He more than likely in the event of
    survival and capture..prepared for his insanity defense.

    Evil smart.. Not evil stupid.

    What else did he prepare for and play out in his sick
    mind …In this psycho’s Mental version of chess..

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:53pm

      That’s exactly what I thought…signed ..sealed and delivered..insanity defense..who could have seen it coming? This is more than likely a future screen play..Registered Democrat Blac Block occupyer.helps the UN and Congress and with the sway of the American public..to take a few lives to save a multitude by having taking away the 2nd amendment rights… In Germany..when gun rights were taken away. 12 million people were executed..Jews. dissedents,,union people..Catholics..mentally ill and gays were murdered.. Removing rights to bear arms
      Soviet Union..1929-1923 20 million dissidents rounded up and murdered
      Turkey 1915-1917 1.5 million rounded up..exterminated
      China 1939-1945 20 million exterminated
      Uganda 1971-1979 300 thousnand exterminated
      Cambodia 1075-1977 one million “educated” people rounded up and exterminated

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    • PurrrpleMtnMajesty
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:22pm

      Not sure how that could have been intentional for an insanity defense because if the doctor had
      an employee who opened his mail and alerted him to anything that required immediate attention
      (as many doctors do), this would have been discovered several DAYS before the shooting and
      he would have been institutionalized. UNLESS the doc only is at the college on a certain day of
      the week (Mon) for example and the chances were very calculated that he/she wouldn’t see it beforehand. Makes me wonder too if the mailroom had lots of people on vacation, only rookies/temp help and they didn’t know how to process the mail promptly and Holmes surmised this.

      Guess we’ll never know.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:12am

      According to Y a h o o ..there are conflicting reports as to when this arrived in that certain specified shrink’s office..They do not know if it was before or after the massacre..unless someone else mailed it for him after the fact…or he could have mailed it Thursday night before the incident..that way..no one could have foiled the plan..It does not make sense that he would have carried out that well of an orchestrated plan..it was said he was wearing 10 thousand dollars worth of police issue swat gear..and as for the note having been in the mailroom since July 12..there is conflicting stories on that..they didn’t find it until Monday..

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  • yanki161
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:21pm

    Instead of more gun regulation maybe we should consider more mail regulation.

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  • rdjones
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:17pm

    This is all starting to have a certain “stink” to it. BUT, that is up to ALEX JONES and “others” to speculate. If we don’t think this stuff is possible to MAKE HAPPEN, we are not paying attention.

    All the way to Micheal Moore last night on CNN/Morgan ranting Treyvon had a right to attempt to kill Zimmerman??

    HE spent almost ONE HOUR with liberal drivel pouring out, and there was there tel-tale SPEW about the Founding Fathers coming up with the “ideas” for slavery and that women should not vote, only white men.

    All the we need to evolve and the Constitution written so long ago by men who approve of us now days deciding they did not for-see these semi-auto guns (they could only imagine slow loading, one shot muskets AND THAT MEANT ARMS in the second amendment.

    I mean MM and PM have discusssed this for years in think tank meetings, and they are still trying to sway people of this nonsense.THEY had CANNONS back then, and could arm themselfs with many cannons (or muskets ) in their own house to protect from ANY one attacking thier property.

    JUST lie and promote PROGRESSIVISM like vile MSNBC.

    AND NO MENTION, of the kids in CHICAGO killing each other with guns (all kinds), knives (all kinds), and anything they can use.

    Liberals are MAJOR LEAGUE IDIOTS, that is the way I see it, and they only want to control anyone who wants pure “American Freedom”, available no where else on Earth.

    THERE, I said it, and I sure as he$$ mean it !!!!!

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  • jcldwl
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:16pm

    What the hell is this… “Alleged movie theater gunman James Holmes ” Does anyone else see anything wrong with the first statement of this story. One clue the first word. Alleged? are you serious Blaze. You mean to tell me you don’t have the balls to call it like it is. There is nothing alleged about it. Cut the crappy assed PC when it comes to writing stories about known guilty mass murderers. That is part of the problem with our society. No one wants to tell it like it is. He is the movie theater gunman and he is guilty.

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    • v15
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:09pm

      It’s called “due process” and fortunately we have a legal system that extends rights to individuals so that they may be innocent until proven guilty. “Alleged” implies that no charges have been filed against him (They will on June 30th) and that he is being accused of the the shooting but it has yet to go to trial. Yes, there’s a 99.999999% chance that he committed that horrible massacre, but we have these laws to protect everyone’s rights. Read the constitution.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:10pm

    Fire up old sparky……………………

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  • SREGN
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:06pm

    As a frequent victim of college mailroom incompetence, I can understand.

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:54pm

    I hate the fact that we are talking about one evil mass murderer ..
    When we have another evil mass murderer[ Fort hood shooter ].. Still breathing air.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:57pm

      It‘s unfortunate that Holmes isn’t muslim…he could then enjoy the benefits and protections of the Obama administration like Maj Hasan has enjoyed.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:02pm

      Good Point

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  • AvengerK
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:50pm

    I was saying this in conversation to family and friends…these types of whackos always leave some kind of trail..some kind of manifesto…they want to be heard and acknowledged in some way by the public. This may be the best idea so far we have of the delusions in Holmes’ mind.

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  • tiredofbeingtired
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:46pm

    “after the psychiatrist said he received a package he thought was from Holmes. While that package turned out to be from someone else, a search of the mail room netted another package for the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address”

    this part seems really odd. thought he had a package from holmes..hmm guess not..oh wait heres one?? just seems odd to me!

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    • PurrrpleMtnMajesty
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:24pm

      That was my first thought as well.
      IF he hadn’t been seeing Holmes, why would he expect it might be from him.
      And if he HAD, you‘d think he’d have gone in immediately after the shooting to
      look through his mail/notes for any clues that might help law officials.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:43pm

    Seems this killer came out of academia and the leftist academicians dropped the ball.

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    • PurrrpleMtnMajesty
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 7:02pm

      Not the first time….
      Let’s see Unibomber, previous Colorado shooting, Va tech shooting……
      common denominator ….all were actively involved in the education system.

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  • 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:38pm

    I find it hard to believe a PACKAGE was not opened for days. This sounds more like the psychiatrist covering for himself.

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    • StandingOnMyHead
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:03pm

      Something is off the mark with this story.

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    • randy
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 2:25pm

      My thoughts exactly!

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    • v15
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:25pm

      There is definitely something about this story that does not add up. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I think the psychiatrist isn’t telling the truth. The “oh wait! we do have a package from James Holmes after all!” part to the story sounds too coincidental.

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  • hondatoy2
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:37pm

    snail mail is on the way

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  • barber2
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:28pm

    Read a comment by a neighbor in his apartment building who had watched the tv coverage of the court appearance Monday. The guy said he had never seen Holmes look that “ crazy ” before. Drugged ? Acting ? Over the edge ? Combo ? So many questions.

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:20pm

    Rather convenient to find evidence of premeditated murder after the fact isn’t it?Especially this close to a U.N. anti-gun treaty.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:18pm

    “James Holmes Sent Notebook ‘Full of Details’ of Massacre Plans to Psychiatrist Before Attack”

    Typical, arm-chair-quarterback psychology from the media. How many people in America would say have ever drawn something similar? And, how many mass murders did those lead to???

    I mean, if you step back and think about this for a minute, it isn’t rocket science. We have 315 million freakin’ people in this country. How many commit mass murder? Get my drift?

    This type of thing is going to happen in a “free” society. And, it could very well happen in just about any type of society, really.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:29pm

      It does. Look at all of the mass murders globally in the last 10 years. Ooodles of them, many in countries like Austrailia, Germany, Norway and the UK. Gun laws don’t work.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:32pm

      Very few people are so nuts they don’t know right from wrong anyway. Hell, my dog knows right from wrong…so did this guy. He should die for it.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Hauschild – true, if I recall the number correctly, the FBI records show a ‘mass murder’ is only 1% of all shooting crimes committed in the nation; and for the last few years the number has remained more or less steady.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 3:28pm

      1%? No way you can tell me 3.15 million “mass” murderers in this country at any particular point in time.

      3.15? Maybe – which would be .00000001 percent of the American population, which essentially means it’s a non-issue for all intents and purposes.

      I just think that given the fact half the people in this country can’t raise children properly, and another half doesn’t understand limited government and a multitude of others have issues that cause irrational thought processes – do we really need these types of people making decisions on “who” or “what” is psychotic???

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 1:16pm

    He is guilty as charged. He was smart enough to try to get an insanity charge by thinking ahead with these evil thoughts and processes. This charge in many cases has gone beyond reason.

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