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Report Claims: New Middle East Turns Away From Jihad, Terrorism

According to an interesting report in the Wall Street Journal, Osama bin Laden–and his breed of Islamic fundamentalism–is becoming increasingly irrelevant in the new Middle East.

That new Middle East is being shaped by pro-democracy movements “in which al Qaeda has played no role,” the Journal reports:

Bin Laden hadn’t been seen since his last video address was released in 2007. He died without commenting on the collapse of U.S.-allied regimes that al Qaeda tried and failed to demolish with violence.

Despite bin Laden’s attempts to jump-start a global Islamic revolution with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in the end Afghanistan’s ultra-conservative Taliban regime was the only government his movement actually managed to bring down, by sparking a U.S.-led invasion.

Pro-American governments in Egypt and Tunisia fell this year at the hands of a new generation of peaceful protesters. They demanded democracy, human rights and social justice, not the return to puritan Islamic rule espoused by bin Laden.

And while some Islamists continue to take bin Laden’s message to heart, other Muslims have grown disheartened by it:

But al Qaeda’s indiscriminate attacks on civilians in places such as Jordan and in war-torn Iraq alienated many Muslims, who were repelled by the disregard for fellow Muslims’ lives.

Saudi Arabia intensified its efforts to discredit al Qaeda after a wave of terrorist bombings in Riyadh in 2003.

Read the full story here.

Comments (101)

  • ProudInfidel
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:59pm

    Yeah that`s it, whistle past the graveyard . . .

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  • Beckster2
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:51pm

    testing one two three.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:49pm

    Totally disagree with the WSJ’s opinion of what it believe is going on in north africa and the middle east. The question is who is behind all this sweeping change? Iran and Turkey aren’t members of the arab league, and closer ties between Iran, Russia, and Turkey is an alliance to be reckoned with. Egypt is going to be an Islamic state, and who really knows what going to evolve in Libya,Syria, or Yemen. If and when we leave Afghanistan and Iraq there’s little chance for any democracy.

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  • Beckster2
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:49pm

    “They demanded democracy, human rights and social justice, not the return to puritan Islamic rule espoused by bin Laden.”
    The Muslim Brotherhood has learned the lessons of democratic social change and socialism. These countries will get worse and more violent imo. Hope I’m wrong.

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  • Calabrio
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:47pm

    And the guys in the Weather Underground went into government and education . Violence is a tactic. Terror is a tactic. Has the ideology changed or just the method of imposing it.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:39pm

    DO NOT become complacent…. they count on that.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:19pm

    this is like fishing, you can see the fish and throw every bait you have at them and they still want take the bait, just maybe the fish have been hooked so many times over their life,that they are leery of any thing they see or smell. this smells,and we ain’t biting.

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  • psadie
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:13pm

    I don’t believe this for a minute. Up next is the Muslim Brotherhood who is just as ruthless.

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  • eat-more-bacon-USA
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:10pm

    Uh huh, ****** democracy – - – That is funny (and nonexistent).

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  • NYSTREETKID
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:08pm

    folks,we need to hope we can hold out till 2016 the best we can.Keep the house,fight were we can,take some state houses .but I truly think he will win in 2012. We just dont he the will or the guts to fight, The country is split 52%left and 48%right. you will never take a sitting president out of office with those numbers.we need to start think of midterms 2014, and the congress. we need to find a line to hold. a redoubt, We need to place enough road blocks to stop if we can his moves or at least slow him down till we can attack from a new postion. We can win on the ground. The art of war tell it the ground that set the rules of battle. This is a lost cause going after obama head on. the networks,the papers, the Largest unions, and most of brain dead america is on his team.

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    • psst
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:02am

      Wait until 016?
      Geez man, if we lose in 012, there ain’t gonna be no waiting for 016. it will be all over by then.
      Do you realize how many more government dependency will be created by 016.?
      Dependent people wants more government, not less. They don’t care if the government is broke.
      Do you realize how many millions of dependency lemming (clones of their dependent parent/s)will come of voting age by 016?
      It’s a numbers game. conservatives can’t keep up w/ the breeding factories. They have to work to support these factories. And to make matters worse, some or many chirrens from conservative homes grows up to be flaming leftists
      The public sKrool unions and marxists profs in the universities knows how to indoctrinate them.
      If we have to wait for 016, you can fergitboutit.
      Turn out the lights. the party is over.

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  • spanish olive
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:03pm

    C’mon folks, don’t you realize that the blaze is trying to set-up the “intellectual” position that says none of this matters anyway? That what the Obama’s administration just accomplished is trivial and unimportant? And maybe it is. But what the blaze is doing is just trying to re-position itself when it comes to launching further attacks against Obama. You should learn to recognize spin when you see it–and then cast doubt on the source.

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:14pm

      SP,You are right there is going to be a lot of spin. the muslims will spin it,the left will,the right will have to says something in the face of that. That will be spinned to. the Fact is there is no such thing as a fact in matters of state, It is a matter of who side are your on. I am not on your side,To be truthful,I hate everything about you side.However,that my spin.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:31pm

      @spanish olive, spin.how about you wake up and get out of the lefts spin machine,either you are a huffington post troll, or a media matters troll, when you own man,obama has lied so many times that he has to lie to cover a lie. transparency, dividing this nation with racist comments,lied about health care,lied about bailing out his buddies with the stimulus package,giving his union supporters a waver own health care the the rest of America has to be forced to carry,spin,that is spin { lies } so please take you spin self and go some where else,or wake up before we all are spun right into a dictatorship.

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  • calebgs83
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:01pm

    That is ridiculous. Islam is an cancer that will never stop until it is either defeated or victorious. Islam is the evil ideology of Mohamed, a pedophile, killer, and lunatic. Moderate Islam is a myth…I hope westerners realize this before it is too late.

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:25pm

      The west has given up its churches,only 28% go to church in europe.The west is based on PC and lefty lovefest.We have frought in western europe with the help of North america twice in 110 year two world wars,lost untold amount of the best flower of manhood from our nations,65 years of cold war ate our dollars and drove us to wonder about what ideas are worth fighting for. No faith in God,no belief in our national pride for the most part. The western world is just worn out and broke at it core.they in the east and other see this and attack.

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  • vennoye
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:59pm

    Interesting concept since people of Islamic religion feel that the world under Sharia Law is “Heaven on Earth.” How else can they accomplish their Heaven without Jihad—by either violent or stealth means?

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  • momprayn
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:45pm

    Well, maybe that’s true about alQaeda & bin Laden but don’t know if I agree about things getting better bc of those wanting “democracy”…..just saw the son of Hamas who converted to Christianity on Fox Business saying that it was a good thing about bin Laden but it’s the Muslim Brotherhood we need to fear, not alQaeda. Said they have more than half of the people in authority making decisions in Egypt now & will probably spread to Syria, etc. and then they’ll have their caliphate. They’re more dangerous….look out.

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    • middleeastiq
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 11:02pm

      Mom,

      You are mostly correct and it is true the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) is the more dangerous foe. The fragmented and de-centralized nature of groups like and including Al-Qeada makes them dangerous for their cellular nature, but limits the scope of their possible activities and funding. MB on the other hand has a huge scope with well-established and funded longevity and a long-term outlook on their activities coupled with perceived legitimacy within the region. The MB has achieved grassroots populism through providing social services that Arab governments do not traditionally engage in (same with Hamas and Hezbolah as well), causing them to be more trusted then the government because they are the ones caring for grandma and the orphans. The MB has organizations in nearly all Arab states and have similar views to all the other taqfiri groups ( Islamist, Radical Islamic groups, etc.) but has a veneer of respectability that apologists use to cover for their long term goals (which the goals are the same as taqfiri groups). Taqfiri in Arabic refers to a doctrine that makes all Muslims the same as infidels if they do not agree with you by saying they were never Muslims in the first place, so like infidels you can do anything to them lawfully without repercussions according to this version of Chaos Theory. This is the true enemy that is represented as terrorism. This explains why when they attack the west it is considered a just act to murder children and civilians, and when counter-terrorism reacts they are angered by what they see as an unprovoked assault. I hope this helps with understanding the cognitive dissonance that occurs with dealing with these groups or dealing with their motives.

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  • Hoosier
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:45pm

    It’s time to get out.

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  • LoveBringsTruth
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:42pm

    Anyone curious why the blaze promotes stories that contradict some of Becks opinions? Fake Name CIA Emily Smith says ‘Egypts’ peaceful protest?

    Not the return to puritan islamic rule while the MUSLIM BROTHER hood advocates and checks women’s virginities?

    Are you freaking kidding me?

    Thank god we have patriots tracking these criminals under RICO, PATRIOT and TREASON laws.

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  • WHITE LOTUS2x
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:41pm

    Well that would be something to see. I hope they do as they are saying they will. Time will tell. The tide is turning? Hopefully. Lotus.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:21pm

      Not a chance. In black & white (I hope I am not being racist) the Koran tells the believers that all non-believers MUST be killed. I, for one, intend to fight back.

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  • NEMATIC
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:41pm

    Well this certainly is a much welcomed report, but the sceptic in me doesn’t bite.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:48pm

      I like your Flag. Thanks. It’s really refreshing.

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  • endgamer
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:40pm

    When roadside bombs appear in Texas we have a problem.. more propaganda. Our roadside bombs use the term megaton.. booom! C-ya Jihadists!

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  • AmericanStrega
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:39pm

    A leopard never changes his spots. I say green glass them all.

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  • bestartist
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:39pm

    No Jihad, just a Caliphate……
    No Fatwahs…? just Sharia in every town.
    Great to know.

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  • Dustyluv
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:38pm

    Yea……….right…my a@@

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:37pm

    now if we can get the CIA to turn away also

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:43pm

      Man…

      What the hell are they trying to pull here, Tower…

      I smell catastrophic nuclear false-flag terror attack.

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:00pm

      Sinista,
      I gotta admit, you have been putting up some genuinely funny posts today. bravo.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:44pm

      What’s so funny?

      They’ve already put out pretext reports saying Al Qaeda has 160 nukes scattered across the United States…

      I don’t put anything past the CIA, especially not when militarized by Petraeus who was over there helping the Taliban move heroin, who was caught on video making jokes about bombing Libya…illegally, at the behest of the UN, not congress…

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 11:22am

      Even BECK is reporting that there is a “rogue nuke”.

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  • bestartist
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:37pm

    no Jihad, just Caliphate…….
    great, Sharia in every town.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:12pm

      Just like some radicals and others wish to remake and fundamentally transform our country into as well.

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:49pm

      We see this,But those people from there see it as there way is the right way to live. I dont agree with it,I now better.That the problem there and here. We see thing from our own eyes, How we were raised. We where told each person matters. That we live our own lives. We teach our children to go Hopefully out into the world on their own. We told to repsect the one. Not to follow the crowd. This is not their way, It is not right or wrong in the great matter of thing,to them, the family is the only thing that matters. The group is more then the few or the one.Their children work for and towards the wishes of the father. The mothers and women live in there own world. Have their own set of rules. The children are set up by rank of birth. the oldest get the most share,but is the one who bears the most load. These ways of life cant live together. This is the root of it all. They know this. They are afraid they will lose they way of life and belief system. We are a great threat to them as they see it. This make them very great danger to our way of life. They will attack first. They truly believe they are right. This is a real problem for the west, If we dont take this on head first, We will lose.

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:53pm

      radical or what we call them ,make up to 77% of most of the middle east. so are the the radical or main stream

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:34am

      NYSTREETKID: Nobody is stopping them from living amongst themselves, in their own countries and doing whatever they please. What‘s missing in your comment is the observation that they don’t seem so happy with their own countries –they are moving “en masse” to western countries–and trying to import their laws under the banner of religious tolerance. Problem is, many of their laws are actually illegal elsewhere. Can’t have everything.

      Traditional Japanese culture has many of the same values as you mentioned above. Despite their history with the West, they don’t feel their culture being threatened, nor do they treaten other cultures. Looks like you‘ve got a bad case of the PC’s. There is no excuse for them to “attack first,”
      except maybe a lack of education and a belief system which has been steeped in violence from the getgo. Muslims have been fighting EACH OTHER nonstop since the death of Mohammud. It’s part of their identity.

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  • CatB
    Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:37pm

    That just means that they are infiltrating the governments .. doesn‘t mean they aren’t “active”.

    Now they can kill with “diplomatic” immunity.

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    • Revere1
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:39pm

      And I wonder, if the “new” middle east is less of a problem… Why are we getting involved in more and more middle eastern conflicts? http://www.elephantwatcher.com/2011/05/after-bin-laden-should-republicans-be.html

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:40pm

      Frankly there‘s only one thing that will help dry up the supply of potential terrorists and that’s prosperity. And that only comes from freedom and free markets. Socialism has a huge role in creating the conditions for terrorism.

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    • chiefparker
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:42pm

      Yup, and in time we’ll see.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:45pm

      we still have the best answer to terrorism… glass parking lots.

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    • CatB
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:46pm

      CultureWarriors
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:40pm
      Frankly there‘s only one thing that will help dry up the supply of potential terrorists and that’s prosperity. And that only comes from freedom and free markets. Socialism has a huge role in creating the conditions for terrorism
      _____________________________________________

      What we need to do is drill in our own d*mn country … energy independence and tell them to go to he11 !!!

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:48pm

      Bin Laden hadn’t been seen since his last video address was released in 2007. There should be recent pics some where to prove he was alive a few days ago…Voice recordings we have just don’t get it.

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    • TheGreyPiper
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:49pm

      CW, that was a leftist talking (i.e. BS) point for quite a while. Unfortunately for the theory, not only was bin Ladin a gazillionaire himself, but a large proportion of his stooges were well-off, middle class guys. Poverty didn’t cause this kind of lunacy, any more than it causes crime in the US.

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    • not-a-lib
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:49pm

      CATB, you nailed it. Their modus operandi is changing, that’s it. All we’ve done is make them change their tactics.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:54pm

      One thousand year of bloody jihad cannot and will not be erased by two or three years of peace. a snake is still a snake; and if you are a fox, do not let it ride on your back to cross the river.

      unleash the military or bring them home.
      can we get back to the economy and get rid of this marxist?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:56pm

      Pro-American governments in Egypt and Tunisia fell this year at the hands of a new generation of peaceful protesters.
      —————————-
      Peaceful protesters ? Really ?
      I’m sure Lara Logan would like to differ.

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:57pm

      Wall street.say the war is over.The world will now be full of peace and love. No need for that war machine. we can now cut back on it save lots of money for obamacare and handouts. The left now need to bend those swords into plowshear. This is what will be talked about in 2 or 3 days from now.It will take a lot of wind from people like ron paul.We on the right have been out played again. The every day joe will love obama for this and he or she will feel the our beloved leader saved the day. This changed everything, In one move the tea party means nothing now.we are screwed

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:59pm

      They are re-writing history while the ink is still wet.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:02pm

      “Pro-American governments in Egypt and Tunisia fell this year at the hands of a new generation of peaceful protesters. They demanded democracy, human rights and social justice, not the return to puritan Islamic rule espoused by bin Laden.”

      Really? The muslim brotherhood had nothing to do with any of this! Surely not. Sharia Law is wonderful. The majority of Egyptians approve and embrace it. That’s peaceful? That would encourage democracy? If folks in other countries don’t want democracy – fine. Their country – their business. Just please stop lying about it. A majority of Americans equate “democracy” with our country & our form of government so they think it’s great for everyone. (We do not live in a democracy!) A true democracy is true anarchy. It hasn’t, can’t, and won’t work for any period of time. So when things get really bad the people will look for “law & order.” Lucky for them the brotherhood or a similar well organized group will be ready, willing and able to “save” them.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:07pm

      CatB
      That just means that they are infiltrating the governments .. doesn‘t mean they aren’t “active”.
      Now they can kill with “diplomatic” immunity.
      ——————————————-
      Whats it that Glenn says about their shedding the radical pose for radical goals ?

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:07pm

      The quran clearly states that jihad must be waged until all the infidels have converted or have been beheaded. The number of muslims in the world is roughly 1.8 billion, roughly a quarter of the earth’s population. The land mass of muslim held countries and territories is roughly a quarter of the eaths populated land mass.

      Revelation 6:7-8 “And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.“ ”And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”

      Read all of revelation.

      Scary stuff.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:11pm

      @CatB:

      Fairly what I had been thinking in reading the article:

      a. Infiltrate from within to gain the power, via ‘legitimacy’ (like the radicals here at home)
      b. Use lawfully won governments to go to war for ‘conquest’

      Sounds like what Van Jones and the others did here at home, in giving up the radical apperances in order to gain the radical ends they so much want.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:12pm

      @cheezwhiz

      Bingo!

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 10:28pm

      This story is like painting a turd and saying it’s a hot dog, it doesn’t smell right and will leave you with a bad taste.
      Until they stop stoning people, treat their women with respect and beheading people. I don’t buy it.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 11:10pm

      @Darmok:

      Ewwwww!!!

      On target though.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 11:50pm

      This same story was in Christian Science Monitor.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 12:25am

      I’m still not sold on the uprisings in the mid-east being all pro-democracy movements. The Arab world, and more directly the followers of Muslim religion, have always been lorded over in one way or another. They have no idea what a Democracy or Freedom really is, and I don’t expect them to figure it out anytime soon. The way I read the Koran, it programs people to think that they are much better off NOT wanting to be free. As if as Freedom is some sort of evil.

      But……… then I have to fall back on the standard statement and say “only time will tell”.

      Time for a real leader…
      http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 12:34am

      not-a-lib
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:49pm
      CATB, you nailed it. Their modus operandi is changing, that’s it. All we’ve done is make them change their tactics.
      ————————————————-
      Their tactics are reminiscent of the 60′ radicals in this country. Many of them, the ones that lived through the drug overdosing, eventually figured out that the only way they could make change is from within. The College students of the 70′s started to work their way through the process of becoming part of the government, instead of always being on the outside looking in, they could work from within the halls of government. We are now experiencing that movement, and we can tell the world that it sucks. Glenn Beck was also right about this. Our radicals are working with Muslim radicals because both groups hate us.

      The bottom line for me is… I still don’t trust most mid-east nations. They have a lot of proving to do!

      Time for a real leader…
      http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:05am

      So far nothing is really “in place” in Egypt and Tunisia. We shall soon see what Muslim democracy, human rights, and social justice, looks like in those countries. We’ve already seen it in Iran.

      Hey Egypt, does “social justice” mean women get to vote too?

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:05am

      Really, who needs jihad and terrorism when you’ve got sharia?

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:57am

      Sorry, I don’t buy this.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:06am

      I’m sure that hardly speaks for the extremists in the Middle East who still would like to see us dead. Or maybe they have just moved west and are bidding their time, especially since they have had open borders for ten years to prepare. Don’t fall asleep and make sure to say your prayers. Guaranteed they are not sleeping – just plotting.

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    • psst
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:37am

      CultureWarriors said:Socialism has a huge role in creating the conditions for terrorism.
      —-
      Well Cult. US are on our way.US is hell bent on creating total socialism rat here.
      US is moving fast from partial to total.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:41am

      So they’re pulling a van jones dropping the radical pose to achieve the radical ends.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 10:04am

      You will see in news clips, I’m sure, that the ‘new’ middle east is neither peaceful or democratic. Too many have been brainwashed in radical Islamic ideology. This goes back to Constantinople and beyond.

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 10:13am

      The real answer to end terrorism is to get out of the middle east all together. We are breeding more and more terrorists each day we are there. Put yourself in their shoes, what if China was occupying our lands and was wageing war against our local militia groups? What if they accidently killed a couple of innocent American civilians occasionally? What if it was your children? What if they posted pictures up of them poseing with their dead bodies? Would you not want to become a “freedom fighter” and get revenge? Good/bad, freedom-fighter/terrorist are simply a matter of perception. It all depends on which side you are on. We are all rational human beings so lets think rationally instead of jumping up and acting like savage animals. I see the constant hatred for muslim people yet branding them ALL terrorist and degrading the race as a whole is like saying all Americans want to wage war and occupy foriegn lands and nation build simply because our politicains do. They are not a representation of the American people anymore. I believe most Americans want to worry about Americas problems and stop getting in everyone elses business. If not we will fall like every empire in the past. We’ve followed the exact footprints of Empires step for step. They all collapsed internally not through battle. We are on the precubice now and if we dont change drastically we will be a echo in the pages of history as the nation that used to be great

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 2:40pm

      Ever stop and ponder whether you might serve the same god? Ibrahim = Abraham
      Ismail = Ishmail
      Ishaq = Issac
      Yaqoub = Jacob
      Musa = Moses
      Isa = Jesus

      Funny how the characters pretty much have the same stories behind them. Just a thought people

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:09pm

      Ibrahim = Abraham
      Ismail = Ishmail
      Ishaq = Issac
      Yaqoub = Jacob
      Musa = Moses
      Isa = Jesus

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    • Mary M. Tebbe
      Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:37pm

      nystreetkid: When I hear too that Obama will rise in the polls now that Osama bin Laden is dead, it gives me pause. Are we so fickle in this Country? Do we really want to overlook the connections Glenn Beck made for us for the last two years? Do we want Obama, George Soros, the communist, socialist, progressive, marxists czars for another 4 years? Have we already forgotten the chalkboards and the pictures, the connections, and the enemy’s very own words about how they want to dismantle this Republic, and fundamentally transform America? I sure hope not.
      The Middle East and North Africa will not turn away from their jihadist mission. It is part of their religion, and they are vehement about their plans for the West. Do not be deceived by mere words from the left and from the Jihadists. We must always be on our guard.

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