Report: New Russian Nuke Can Penetrate Missile Defense Systems
- Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:15pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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From Russia Today:
Russia has developed a stand-alone nuclear warhead capable of penetrating any existing or projecting missile defense system, informs Interfax news agency.
According to Yury Solomonov, the chief designer of the Moscow Heat Engineering Institute, this unique system was successfully tested last year.
Unlike the payload of all previously-developed intercontinental ballistic missiles, the new weapon can hit several targets located at great distance from each other.
This means that the current multiple warhead dispensing mechanism called “bus”, a segment that delivers warheads to the destined drop zone used in all modern missiles, will be eliminated, because in the new system, once the terminal stage vehicle of ICBM booster does its job, the missile separates into warheads with “individual means of delivery to destination.”
He said that 30 years ago such a system was discussed and labeled science fiction.
The new innovative technology will “put a full stop on all discussions regarding our countermeasures towards non-existent antiballistic missile defense system of our potential enemy,” Solomonov is cited as having said.
Critics of the recently signed nuclear arms START treaty signed by the United States and Russia say the agreement significantly weakens American’s ability to institute a missile defense system.
If these new reports are true, that might not matter.
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Comments (108)
VRW Conspirator
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:04pmthis is just what i said in a post on the other thread about the START being signed….
the treaty handcuffs the United States while allowing Russia to “update” and “modernize” their old garbage ICBM’s.
i pointed out that it was just a way for them to make the world think they were better than us because they could destroy/dismantle more missles while finding a way to build a missle that our missle defense system can’t stop…
and poof….not 3 hours later…the story breaks…. dang, i must be a prophet… =)
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:16pmQuite true; just take into one thing of account, when dealing with the Russians, propaganda and the art of dissemination is their life blood, they have built it to among the highest of artforms in any and all manners.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:57pmThe progressives in this country sold us out, it is confirmed now.
Report Post »mcpbob
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:56pmguess that was part of the STAR agreement…. i wouldn’t let Obama negotiate a bubble gum agreement
Report Post »Living In NYC
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:29pmCome on…Barry couldn’t run a lemonade stand … much less a understand a bubble gum contract!
Report Post »santramir
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:50pmsomehow it looks that someone above or even better said “inside” both the usa and rusia goverments is playing the strings of all nations basic needs: economics, security, health, justice, banking.
Report Post »rockEy47
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:48pmI believe President Reagan won a major BATTLE of the cold war! Clinton and the liberals spent the ‘peace dividend’ prematurley. The Cold is NOT over!
Report Post »Volsense
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:46pmWould Obama have signed the START Treay if he had of known this? If the answer is YES then he would have to be A) Moron B) Coward C) Traitor D) All of the above.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:26pmBarry knew and obviously didn’t care.
This is the thing people don’t understand about progressives: They want another superpower to take over in America‘s place so that America doesn’t have to police the world, which leaves tons of money to “spread the wealth” around (God, every time I picture numb nuts arrogantly speaking that phrase to Joe the Plumber, I just want to smack him upside the head.) and blow on worthless museums and art displays.
Obama wants us to be Switzerland. The problem is, we’ll only get by so long by operating in this capacity and will ultimately be conquered by the next unscrupulous superpower – not that there isn’t an overabundance of those (sarcasm).
Report Post »RedeyeBlind
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:46pmBarry=Eunuch
Had to look up Eunuch never had to spell it before
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:52pmThats ok, we never had one in the Whitehouse before.
Report Post »Marnin
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:46pmI’m not sure why they feel like they need a missile to penetrate any missile shield. They already convinced Our compeltely out of touch president to stop building missile systems anyway…
Report Post »santramir
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:43pmamerica is so dominated by evil forces higher ranked than the mere leftist, that christian conservative russians are now perceived as the good people of the world, despite all the black propaganda from every side of the media.
Report Post »rob_a
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:43pmIt seems that dismantling our nukes and scrapping missile defense wasn’t such a good idea. but i‘m sure Obama’s softly spoken diplomancy will save the day!
Report Post »Hoosier Daddy
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:38pmI’m wondering how they know that it can penetrate our missile defenses. Are they fully informed on all of our missile defense systems? I’d like to think we have a card or two up our sleeves but in the age of Obama one wonders exactly what we have left.
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:50pmthe joker
Report Post »TheHonestAmerican
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:36pmCommunists lie.
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:35pmYour two words were redundant :)
Report Post »rockEy47
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:35pmthey never heard of MIRV, .Independant Re-entry Vehicle? We have had them since the 70′s.
Report Post »lketchum
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:04pmThese are not like MIRV and after the boost phase, long before MIRV’d warheads would depart from the BUS, fully independent delivery vehicles enter their own powered courses.
So no known SDI technology can address such a threat, as the individual boosters would begin their burns at a point above one type of defense and below others – with wide area and separate trajectories and velocities well beyond any ability to intercept them with current defensive systems.
This threat is real and was not address, but rather specifically ignored by the START treaty Obama wanted so desperately.
Report Post »LindaB11
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:33pmThank God we did the START Treaty /Sarc
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:31pmIt’s astoundingly classic “Those that aren’t familiar with history are destined to repeat it.”
We all knew it would eventually happen again with Russia, but this quickly? Holy smokes?!?!
Report Post »Edgar Bennet
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:56pmLook at Germany between WW1 and WW2
Report Post »nothenews
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:30pmThe Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) was created by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983[1] to use ground and space-based systems to protect the United States from attack by strategic nuclear ballistic missiles. The initiative focused on strategic defense rather than the prior strategic offense doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD). The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) was set up in 1984 within the United States Department of Defense to oversee the Strategic Defense Initiative
Report Post »MistaB
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:27pmMaybe that contrail over California was a test of one of these missiles!!
Report Post »nothenews
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:26pmDid same one say the cold war was over! And Obama stop The US missile defense complex in Poland, also called the European Interceptor Site (EIS), was part of the Ballistic Missile Defense European Capability.
So why has President Obama abandoned the European project?
As soon as he came into office in January, he launched a review and he is now acting on the recommendations of that review. He says that US intelligence assesses that Iran has not concentrated on long-range ballistic missiles as much as had been expected but on shorter-range ones instead.
Therefore, the argument is, there is now no need for the European deployment. Instead, different ship and land-based systems closer to Iran will be used instead to counter any potential threat to Europe
This old Czech base would have been the site for the radar
Moscow said that the anti-missile missiles in Poland and the radar in the Czech Republic could threaten its own defences. The system might be small to start with, it said, but could expand. The radar could be used to spy on Russia.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev warned that “we will not be hysterical about this, but we will think of retaliatory steps”.
The Pentagon said this was just “bellicose rhetoric” from Russia “designed to make Europeans nervous”.
Has President Obama given in to the Russians?
He says not and that he is simply reacting to a change in threat perception. However, the Russians are delighted as they see this as a diplomatic and military victory.
The president’s critics at home and abroad accuse him of making an unnecessary concessions that will encourage further hardline Russian positions.
Does this mean the whole anti-missile system will be dismantled?
No. Other parts of the system are still planned. But perhaps more emphasis in future will be put on the ship-based interceptors that are more mobile.
Will the system work?
The theory is that the interceptor missile homes in on and destroys its target in the air by physically hitting the incoming warhead.
However, the closing speed of interceptor and target will be 24,000kph (14,900mph), or 6.5km (4 miles) per second – so the task is more difficult than hitting a bullet with another bullet.
The system’s supporters say that not only does it work, but it is even more accurate than that.
But critics say that, despite having spent over $100bn (£54bn), the Pentagon still has not proved the system can work in realistic conditions.
Independent scientific bodies in the US have said that tests of the system’s intercept capabilities have been highly scripted, with the defence being given detailed information about the attack beforehand.
They also argue that the defence system could be easily circumvented by potential attackers.
What international agreements cover these moves?
None. The US withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2001.
NUCLEAR WARHEADS
Russia
Land-launched: 2,146
Sea-launched: 1,392
Air-launched: 624
US
Land-launched: 1,600
Sea-launched: 3,168
Air-launched: 1,098
Source:Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) data 2007
This treaty limited US and Soviet anti-missile defences to one site each. The Russians still operate theirs, around Moscow.
The US chose to defend its strategic rockets in North Dakota but this defence has been deactivated.
Part of the Russian unhappiness about the Europe sector of the anti-missile system is that it results from the US withdrawal from the ABM treaty and Russia is worried about where it might go next.
Russia has announced the testing of a new multiple-warhead missile, the RS-24, which it says is designed to overcome missile defences. It is also developing new cruise missiles.
What ballistic missiles do the US and Russia have?
They have dramatically reduced their arsenals from the Cold War days but still retain substantial forces of several thousand missiles and nuclear warheads each.
Under the Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty (SORT) signed by presidents Bush and Putin in 2002, each side has to reduce its deployed warheads to a maximum of 2,200 by 2012.
The two sides have agreed to try to reach a new agreement by the end of 2009.
Russia has its own radar early warning system, short-range interceptor missiles in bases around Moscow and a number of land-based Intercontinental Ballistic Missile launch sites across the country.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:58pmGreat information. Could you prrovide the links for this information? Thanks.
Report Post »anigmanm
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:25pmThey are going to defend themselves from non existent antiballistic missile defense system of our potential enemy. Sounds more like our buddies over in Russia are planning to ramp up their military. Does anyone feel even the slightest bit safer?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:32pmNope! Haven’t felt safe since George W. left office.
Is it just me, or does anyone else get the impression that our pudative president, VP, SoS, Sec. of HS, and former Speaker of the House are STONED?
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:22pmPeace through Weakness. It’s the progressive way. I‘m so glad we gave Professor O’barry his Nobel Peace Prize already because by the time he’s done the world will be a lot closer to nuclear war.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:22pmSomeone nominate Obama for another Nobel Peace Prize…fast
Report Post »Room 101
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:19pmGreat news… just in time to celebrate the START treaty. Nice job Barry.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:28pmTo paraphrase an old commercial: “But of course…”
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:18pmThis is old news already.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:18pmNow we know why they signed the treaty…
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:28pmYep! Clear as a bell now!
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:58pmYup… hand over your guns and your defense plans to a criminal. That will end violence… well, it will end because you’ll be dead.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:59pmDon’t believe all you read and hear about Russia!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-xD
Report Post »Pocono Countryboy
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:23pmExactly
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:15pmIndeed, if anyone followed the pages of Pravda.com in english these things have been mentioned of for some time on and off; I read the pages there just to see what kind of propaganda they would be using and the progressives of the US would use. This thing seems to be legit, and a counter to the US Minoutar IV system being developed.
However, considering the Russians are the masters of propagands, take the article for what it is worth – we may never know the truth.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:52pmWalkwithyou or is it Maboulette? Either way stop peddling your tired liberal talking points here. If you want to have a legitimate discussion then by all means but stop trying to pass your Media Matters copy and paste “blog” off as anything other then tired talking points from a tired liberal. Go peddle your crap elsewhere.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:15pmObama = fail … God help us!
Report Post »Avidmonkey
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:18pmWe need another Ronald Reagan.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:22pmYes we do !
Report Post »nothenews
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:27pmYes we do!
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:30pmFunny how this story came out AFTER the one about the START treaty. Imagine that.
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:30pmYou know they didn’t dismantler any warheads with the stupid START. They, or China are looking to be the king of the hill. We need a president with brass ones, not a eunic.
Report Post »taxed
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:31pmI feel so much safer.
Hussein is no match for these guys.
I would bet money Hussein has never been in a fight. He just doesn’t have a clue…
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:34pmYes, we do!
Report Post »Mr. Vitriol
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:54pmWay to keep up with the technology, Obama.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:15pmmikem1969, I don’t know the specifics for sure, but I heard START only required them to get rid of outdated weapons they didn’t want anyway.
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:27pmWARNING: The following comment may contain un-civil language and psychological freedom of speech.
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WE HAD AN X-RAY LASER MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM THAT WOULD HAD MADE ICBMs OBSOLETE.
The cursed Blood Libeling Democrats in Congress unified to defete funding and prevented the deployment of the system under Bush I. Something, anything must be done to rid ourselves of these Democrats who only want to see us killed by our enemies and destroy our economy. We had the defense system, it had been tested, and worked, yet the bastards vetoed the funding needed to deploy the system.
People in states who want to live must demand that their states remove their Star from the US Flag. 2011 will be the year the Stars begin falling off of the US FLAG.
I hope this comment is considered un-civil and inspiring anger, it is intended to be.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:30pm@ TEX it also prevents us from implementing a missile defense system on our own soil………….wonder why
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:38pmRUSSIA WILL BE SORRY FOR THIS PROVOCATION
The US Military will speed ahead with the elimination of Don‘t Ask Don’t Tell. Russia will regret the day they build that powerful ICBM. We will now deploy women in combat so take that Putin. Take that and smoke in your pipe.
Report Post »rgranger
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:41pmThat is not a bad idea, everyone running for president must get into a ring with Joe the Plumber or one of the MMA girls :)
Report Post »Buck_Ofama
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:43pmYes we freaking do.
Question is: Will we survive while waiting? 50-50 in my judgment.
Report Post »happiestgirl
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:44pmLUCKY for us, Obama is now trying to make us think that he IS the new Ronald Reagan!
Report Post »SLEUTH
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:50pmRemember the phrase, ‘better Red then dead’ ? we do need another Ronald Reagan. put our defense posture to be the strongest nation on the planet that no one will even consider attacking us. we are in a weak defense position and the left put us there again. when are we going to learn? some people vote as if they are playing a slot machine. who will be strong enough on the right to put us back on track?
Report Post »only someone like Reagan or Goldwater will do…..where are you?
Xcori8r
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:54pm“put a full stop on all discussions regarding our countermeasures towards non-existent antiballistic missile defense system of our potential enemy,” Solomonov is cited as having said.
So.. “Our new offensive missiles can defeat defense systems you dont have” ???
I hope these guys keep the Vodka out of the launch control rooms.
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:06pmMike Huckabee is the man for the job. : ) <– Closest thing to Ronald Regan I've seen lately.
Report Post »Roboking
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:43pmHe is still here,,,,,,,,,,,,it’s called H.A.A.R.P.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:46pmAs I have indicated in previous statements to the Congress, my central arms control objective has been to reduce substantially, and ultimately to eliminate, nuclear weapons and rid the world of the nuclear threat. The prevention of the spread of nuclear explosives to additional countries is an indispensable part of our efforts to meet this objective. I intend to continue my pursuit of this goal with untiring determination and a profound sense of personal commitment.
Report Post »Ronald Reagan, March 25, 1988
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:10pmWish we did have another one in the White House now.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:49pmVery interesting on this announcement. Always look at why they would be so quick to agree to this, and have us stop missle shield technology. Now with this announcement, it would seem that Obama can claim “See, I didn’t give up anything, because the missle shield wouldn’t have worked anyway.”
Report Post »Reagan also used deception to fool the soviets, Star Wars wasn’t even developed and it scared the pee out of the USSR, thus they decided they couldn’t compete anymore. Now we have them saying, go ahead an build it, we have a missle that will penetrate your system, I guess it would be our turn to “Wee Wee” ourselves and give up. We have the perfect leader that can bow and surrender, we disolve the US and can just call ourselves Northern Europeon West Coalition of Kinetic Egalatarism or “New Coke”
EP46
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:00pmNow does everyone understand the START Treaty? Obama gave away our missile defense as part of the treaty. And he sold Russia rights to mine our uranium. Sold us down the river.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:15pmStart treaty .. what a joke .. Obama suckered again.
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:27pmKing Barry is a sucker! and a marxist fool. This jerk needs to be impeached.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:29pmCatB, was he suckered or was just as he planned?
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:09pmHey, no biggie. They still get nuked by us. Ain’t technology wonderful? I feel so warm and fuzzy! I need to grab my sunscreen … SPF 2,000,000 anyone?
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on January 29, 2011 at 6:17amHey, not to worry. President Obama has recently signed a nuclear weapons treaty with the Russians that guarantees our safety. Yea, right ! Is our President that stupid or has his communist upbringing and indoctrination completely cloudy his ability to think and reason. Shouls we trust the Russians ? Only if you want to be nuked. Our relationship with the Russians hasn’t ver been one of trust, why is it that Obama and his cronies think they can be trusted now. Or do they ?
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