Report: Police Want to Use These X-Ray Scanners on New York City Streets
- Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:18am by
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Police in New York City are hoping an emerging radiation technology will one day help the Big Apple become a gun free zone.
According to CBS News, The NYPD, along with the U.S. Department of Defense, are investigating an emerging technology that can detect concealed weapons on the human body via a special scanner placed in police vehicles.
Called Terahertz Imaging Detection, the scanner measures the energy radiating from a body up to 16 feet away, and will bounce back an image of anything blocking it– like a gun.
The NYPD, as the country’s largest local police agency– sometimes called the “seventh largest army” in the world at about 35,000 uniformed officers could be setting a worrying precedent for 2nd amendment and privacy advocates if it continues to push for this technology.
Already the debate has heated up, and WCBS-TV gives an overview of the gun scanners and the privacy concerns they raise in this video clip below (video may take a few minutes to load):
The New York Civil Liberties Union has already expressed its fears that terahertz imaging would violate privacy rights. “It’s worrisome. It implicates privacy, the right to walk down the street without being subjected to a virtual pat-down by the Police Department when you’re doing nothing wrong,” the NYCLU’s Donna Lieberman said.
Police Commissioner Kelly said the scanner would only be used in reasonably suspicious circumstances and could cut down on the number of stop-and-frisks on the street. He has claimed they would only be used at specific events or a shooting prone location.
Terahertz imaging technology already works, but NYPD wants it to be more portable and have a greater detection range before they consider outfitting patrol cars with this cutting-edge– and troubling– technology.
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Comments (136)
sjohn70037
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:15pmWhat the hell. Who needs the Fourth Amendment anyway.
Brought to you by Bloomberg, Schumer, Rangel… New York is a cesspool and should be avoided at all costs.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:30pmHow will the scanner tell if they are crooks are the dummies that paid $1200.00 for a carry permit that is for just the rich. These folks paid the big bucks to protect themselves from the little people.
Report Post »red_white_blue2
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:32pmAgreed, and unfortunately I live within its borders..albeit at least upstate..I’m surrounded by Idiots!!
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:44pmVery Soon Obama Care Will Not Cover Lung or Breast Cancer
See, when TSA started using X-Ray strip machines at airports, the COPs would want to use them out in the street, at supermarkets, the workplace, maybe at your front door.
Federal Courts have ruled that once you give up a Constitutional right like the Fifth Amendment, you can never get it back. You gave up your right against illegal search and seizure and will never get it back. Now you can be stopped and searched anywhere. Remember America is now legally a Battle Zone.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:48pmSorry, but this police state via homeland security and now dept of defense money is getting out of control, a local suburb of Houston now has a drone, wake up people, police arent even going after the bad guys anymore, they are ticketing and handing out fines mostly to generate revenue, for themselves and their handlers… Meanwhile, the Southern Border is wide freakin open… the military industrial complex now has its sights ON US……cuz thats where the money is baby…
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:57pmLet’s just make it illegal for convicted felons to ware clothes, that way, they will have no where to hid guns, we will all know who they are, and can stay away from them.
Report Post »DapperDanMan
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:32pmI agree sjohn,couldnt say it any better.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:37pmThey can try to viollate my 4th ammendment, and soo will probably be able to. Who in th hell would not scream bloody murder about this? Idiots that do not know the Constitution or are willing to trade their freedoms for security…Either way,,,, they are fools!
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:40pmThink back to when everyone was up in arms about just regular cameras being installed everywhere. This is was always happens. Little by little liberty erodes away under the ruse of keeping Americans “secure”. Want to keep me safe? Seal the friggin border!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:30pmAnd the stealthy part of the issue is this…
All of these difft levels of govt want all of these devices and weapons to use against you, and they want YOU to pay for it…ROFL!
Want it to stop (or reverse course)? Back a Libertarian for these offices.
Otherwise, stop whining, bend over, and keep voting Republicrat.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:52pm“Those who would give up their liberty for security, deserve neither.”
Report Post »JRook
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:59pmHmmm let me see if i can remember the phrase that conservative republicans used to defend the Patriot Act when Bush first proposed it. “Only criminals should be worried….I‘m law biding so I don’t have to worry about wire tapes and searches that aren’t based on a warrant.” As Ron Paul so clearly points out, we would all do much better with a smaller government. But alas everyone wants government to promote their agenda and ideology. In the end the people are the problem.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 4:40pmA “shooting prone” location. That’s the language that invites Progressives and other purveyors of Thought Crime.
New York and California can both fall into the sea.
Report Post »ronljl
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 4:45pmI think that the NRA and orther like minded organizations [sp] should sell low cost concealed weapon ‘mock-ups’ that can be worn by all their members and others folk who see this as a major infringment. Imagine 25% of the population walking around with a concealed dumby (like being a closet Dem), it would then make the NYPD’s new toy useless!!
Report Post »The 2nd Amend. is a civil rights issue.
WakingSheep
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 5:45pmYeah and we are all scared of the boogeymen in the middle east.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 9:18pm.
Maybe Bloomberg should spend some time
learning why people feel they NEED a gun in NYC?
Nah, that’s too much like common sense.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 9:20pm.
Report Post »Not to worry.
When everyone has cancer, from being constantly scanned,
Obamacare will be there for the moochers.
banjarmon
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 12:57amThe Big Apple is ROTTEN TO THE CORE!!
Report Post »ghostsouls
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:56amWhy is it the Civil Liberty Unions only focus are to protect criminals or to tear down churches and religions? What kind of liberty is that?
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:00am.
Report Post »Jackson and Sharpton will complain
it targets blacks and Hispanics, and it will end.
SFsuper49er
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:15pmI think NY is a nut house… Get out while you still can.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:30pmEscape From New York…. It’s not just a bad Kurt Russle movie anymore.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:36pmdo it befor they put up
Report Post »there border fence
to keep there tax base from
getting THE H3!! out……………………
Tom K
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:15pmAnother report on this technology indicates that this device would damage the DNA of the person being scanned. ( What about the DNA of the Cop using the device ? ) Just one more reason NOT to include N.Y.C. on your visit list. None of my tax / tourist dollars for you !
Report Post »kapnkd
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:10pmWhile it is easy to shrug this off and say “So what?? …I’m NEVER EVER going to go to NYC again anyway!”
We need to keep in mind that It is just a matter of time before this evasiveness will be implemented EVERYWHERE across our country. Just look at ALL the controls already imposed on us by our Federal Government and how our constitutional freedoms are being taken away only for us to be ruled by the laws of Obozocommies czars!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:18pmWell, that may not be so true actually. A lot of foolishness of NYC is avoided by most flyover states. Look at the surging numbers not only of gun purchases, but also open carry movements and concealed carry license grants over the last 10 years. The trend is exactly opposite of NYC in most places, and growing by leaps and bounds. Not everything that hellhole does is emulated any longer, lots of folks finally saying “wait, what?!? No way!” to NYC trends, regarding politics I mean.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:28pmHaven’t been to NY since the FRIST day of that sickening OWS takeover. YUCK. They can keep NY. I’m NEVER going there again. Their tourism is DYING already. This should help..
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 5:43pmYeah and people actually think Gingrich, Romney, or Santorum are really going to head back in the right direction and get rid of these Constitution killing schemes/legislation.
Report Post »BuggiOlleo
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:07pmWhat is that ol Sinatra Song..–”NY NY..If you can do here, you can do it anywhere..NY NY”..?! Look, these NY politicians know that NY sets a precedent for impending wave of likeness to the US..however, this is old hat. Social Media has changed the way we all live our lives..NY may have been a stepping stone at one time. Today, the only States adopting NYC behavior are already lost..The real dilemma is how to get the residents of these States to wake the F-up.
Report Post »TheePolitinator
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:06pmThis really needs to stop, but our elected turdburglars keep on voting for things like the Un-Patriotic act. People need to wake up. Our forefathers said, we never should relinquish our Liberties in the name of “safety:. Why listen to them they only made the best Republic in the history of the planet earth.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:12pmI promise to vandalize these Luciferian All-Seeing Eyes.
Poke their eyes right out.
DO IT FOR LIBERTY!
ILLEGAL SEARCH! VIOLATION OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT!
ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK!
RESIST THE NAZI POLICE STATE!!!
***WARNING***
***ALERT***
***SOS***
***MAYDAY***
***IF YOU ARE READING THIS – YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!!!***
***EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE!!!***
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:50pmI’m with you V Man, should any appear in my sight in Ohio, I’ll do what needs to be done by any right thinking man.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:07pmI’m told by my government that all this is for my safety, but yet my southern border is wide open and is a complete war zone. Who’s safety are you protecting?
Report Post »msakern
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:04pmNever fear! Your freedom from unreasonable search and seizure is secure as long as the offending items are not in plain sight of our X-ray vision!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:06pmIf these appear, a true band of patriots in NYC, if such a thing exists, would make it their top priority to shoot these things off of the poles they’re mounted on. That is of course, if it somehow “passes” constitutional muster, which any thinking person knows that it cannot in even the vaguest sense.
And yes, you heard me correctly.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 4:43pmGhost-
Report Post »There are no patriots in NYC, otherwise it never would have become the cesspool of tyranny that it is.
Mo Better
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:59amThese unconstitutional invasions into our privacy will continue as long as we have useful idiots like Police Commissioner Ray Kelly who thinks such violation of his fellow citizens is a great idea. The position of P.C. is charged with preserving the constitutional freedoms of all Americans, not violating them at every opportunity with the use of the latest untested, dangerous technology. And that, in and of itself, bodes poorly if and when TSHTF – don’t look to your police department for protection when the “ists” (fascists, MAOists, Marxists, socialists, or whatever) start wholesale violations of the Constitution. Police officers like Ray Kelly will view you as a troublemaker for speaking out and will use whatever level of force he believes necessary to “restore order.” Be afraid, be very afraid.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:16pmMan, who cares? As long as it doesn‘t give me ball cancer then I don’t care. I don’t plan on walking around with a gun. I’m not some thug or some conceal/carry moron who thinks their gonna save the day some day.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:48pmOne doesn‘t carry a self defense weapon thinking that they’re going to save the day. One carries a self defense weapon as a last recourse. Many a rape or murder victim who wandered out of the house on their last day would probably have given anything for such an opportunity.
The “I don‘t care because it doesn’t affect me” is a bad attitude to take regarding any civil liberty. If you don’t care about your 4th Amendment liberties, then you clearly won‘t care when you’re stripped of all of your rights and find yourself some day in a dank cell. Rest assured, if you don’t care for the common weal, the common weal will not care for you when your time comes.
Report Post »djs45
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:59pm@ bible quotin’
Report Post »I care, and so do a lot of other people. Don’t call me a moron for carrying concealed, just because you don’t believe in it. No, I don‘t think I’m “gonna save the day some day” as you put it. I carry for my own personal protection. And not just from thugs either. Last year in my town more people were attacked by bulldogs running loose, than those who were car jacked.
Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:26pmWell have fun saving the day from rabid bull dogs, Jack Bauer.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 3:45pm@Bible
You clearly have no idea about people who lawfully carry, and dutifully follow the stereotype template you’ve been told to follow. For somebody who professes to be against the dogma of religion, you certainly seem to parrot the dogma of the Left without error.
Try truly thinking for yourself. I can respect your right to not bear arms, and don’t begrudge you that, but I would expect a similar level of respect in return. If you truly do not care about individual rights on any level however, don’t expect anybody to defend *your* right to not have you “beans” irradiated off as you say you don’t want.
Slainte.
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:58amYep…Makes me want to visit New York…
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:07amI try not to visit any where my CHL is not honored. Have to make an exception to one very liberal state because of family there, but thats the only exception.
OMG
Report Post »singleparent
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:58amWelcome to agenda 21… The police state..Sit back enjoy the ride cause no one is going to do **** about it………….
Report Post »The Voice of Libertarian Reason
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:26pmActually Sir some of us have already begun preparing for Agenda 21:
“The record for a single year was set just last year, when the FBI reported that 14,409,616 background checks were requested. In 2011 that figure will top 16 million.”
I added 3 to my collection last year, and plenty of ammo for each.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:59pmIt’s not a matter of how many guns you own and how much ammo you own for them. It’s a matter of whether you carry a firearm daily for self defense. I can own all of the weapons in the world, if I’m restricted from removing them from my home for most purposes, they don’t amount to a hill of beans. The way to prevent finding yourself in lockdown waiting to “go out in a blaze of glory” is to in fact not wait for such an event, rather, walk out of your home peacefully armed, as any free man has the right to do. Now is the time to get “in their face” regarding our rights (peacefully), not time to hole up and hide and horde.
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 5:48pmI’m doing the only think I can. Lead, Food, Silver, ect.. and writing in Ron Paul.
Report Post »The highlander
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:58amIt is ironic, in fact down right disgusting to hear the chorus American politicians from both the socialist degenerate left and emasculated right wax on how the American military protects our freedom in spite of their so-called political differences.
How can one say we are free when we have the most corrupt,perverted, and power grabbing bills either being either sponsored or that have been signed into law.
SOPA , unlawful military detention of US citizens signed by Obama, forced homosexual indoctrination of children in the state California, unconstitutional mandated healthcare, weapon scanning systems in NY , TSA surviellance in local cities, VIPR X ray vans strewn through out the US. Can one really call America the land of the free. There is dark agenda unfolding .WAKE UP
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:57amWho says a gun has to look like a gun?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:55pmWho says you should have to camoflage the exercise of an inalienable right?
Don’t hide your rights, rather, exercise them en masse, in spite of those who would attempt to deny them.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:19pmI think it is no longer possible to peacefully change the path we are on. They dont care about rights or existing laws. They push the boundries of government constraints further away from what is lawful until the limits of authority is no longer visible. The day is quickly approaching when we will fear the authority more than the criminals. Fly under the radar as much as possible.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:26pmThere’s always time for a peaceful solution. The USSR fell without a shot fired. The Czech republic formed without a shot fired. Both of these places were solidly totalitarian communist hell holes.
If we stand up *en masse* and start blatantly exercising our rights, they become powerless. The next “Glenn rally” shouldn’t be about singing and praying, it should be about 500k people open carrying on the mall in D.C. or in NYC. Want to talk about neutering them and exposing their weak cowardice for all to see, that would do it friend.
But it takes courage.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:21amSorry, Ghost- but your analogy of Russia falling without a shot is not remotely similar to our problems. Russia fell because we were against them. The ‘States are going to fall because no one is with us, at times we’re even against ourselves- re: not protesting and/or stopping the Patriot Act, NDAA, etc.
Report Post »This scanner is another attack on our freedoms- and look how few have commented on this article as compared to how many comment on the Wahlberg 9-11 article. Americans care more about their actors than their rights.
cessna152
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:57amThis is ILLEGAL “searching and seizing” without a warrant. I don’t care it is introduced, this is illegal and Unconstitutional!! This is tyranny, don’t you doubt it.
Report Post »kapnkd
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:03pmGood point! …without consent or physically touching it IS a “SEARCH” and would be done without a warrant!
“BIG BROTHER” continues to expand day by day anymore!!
Report Post »singleparent
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:09pmEveryone in N.Y. should carry plastic cap gun pistols under thier clothes..Scan that dick heads…
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:02pmActually Singleparent, folks would be well advised to read Solzhenitzen’s take on this kind of thing. If those who enforce such madness encounter fierce opposition at every turn, their resolve to enforce the madness disappears. We’re dealing with cowards (bullies) here, and as long as we continue to play the role of the beaten wife, we’ll continue to be treated as such. Stand up, fight back, and never give up. Convince others to do so as well. These cowards are only as powerful as we let them be.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:16pmGhost,
Report Post »There are over 300,000,000 of us and probably 500,000 of them. At some point the people will want their country back. One thing a tyrannical government fears are the people and that’s why they kill them. It is even more important that we put differences aside for a common goal…freedom!
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:28pmI agree Cessna, that’s why I open carry a lot these days, in public, without apology or trying to justify it. Do it enough and others start asking questions, and the more questions are asked, the more people get curious about doing the same themselves.
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:57amThe TSA and the Marxist filth in the white house need to be put on trial for treason!
Report Post »TheePolitinator
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:08pm100% agree.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:54amHitler, Mao, Chavez, etc also [all] had “gun free zones”. How’d that work out? Freaking liberals…
Report Post »jjohnson_n_oklahoma
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:51amNew Yorkers should have pushed back hard, when they took away the right to have a gun in that city. Now, they just keep taking more liberties away. I dare them to come to my home, and try to get my guns. I dare them to stop me on the street in Oklahoma, and tell me that I don’t have a right to carry my concealed weapon.
Report Post »Mark my words, we are heading for a civil war if the government does not stop pushing the American people.
oldjackpinesavage
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:01pm“And that will be a bloody day indeed!” (taking about meeting British forces in Belgium just before Waterloo)
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:50amDon’t worry, the govt assures us that –
1) The radiation is “safe.” (Recall that Love Canal was pushed by the govt as “safe” and our soldiers were subjected to nuclear detonations and fallout…)
2) It will only be used for “official” police business. (Not to spy on wives/husbands/political opponents.)
3) Only highly trained personnel will be able to operate it. (At least a GED will be required!)
So, no worries people! I‘m from the govt and I’m here to help!!
Report Post »dissent
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:35pmBig brother says: “Quit smoking, it might cause cancer. By the way, we‘re going to irradiate you constantly to make sure you don’t have any contraband, but don’t worry, the radiation is probably totally safe, after all, it’s NEVER been linked to cancer at all…right?”
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:43amSo what will the criminals do as a work around on this….because we all know that the criminals will find a way so the guns do not show up. The only people that will be hurt by this are the law abiding citizens.
Report Post »oldjackpinesavage
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:54amSounds like aluminum foil might be used to ‘foil” the scanners (pun intended)
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:33amOkay, so when is enough enough? It is obvious that the liberals/progressives are well organized and have a plan….when will conservatives and those who believe in freedom become organized and fight back instead of just making comments such as “well there goes another freedom”?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:30amI have been thinking a lot on this subject lately and I have become convinced that the only way we will ever be free again is to go back low/no technology and an agrarian lifestyle.
As that is not going to happen anytime soon…at least through choice…I suppose big brother is here to stay. Get used to it.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:52pmNo. Technology is value neutral. You had agrarian low tech societies throughout history, hell dude, throughout most history in the world and time, where you were subject to onerous search at the whim of whatever prince rode through town, and if you didn’t consent, you got run through.
It’s not a matter of the technology level, it‘s a matter of how it’s used. For every bad use of technology, there’s a good use. For example, to deal with x-ray cameras (high tech) one should use a bolt action rifle (medium tech). It all works out in the long run.
Report Post »travlman77
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:27amIt still amazes me that cities can pick and choose which ammendments to the constitution they wish to abide by.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 12:00pmWhat amazes me is criminal organizations like NAACP and ACLU go around hiring teams of lawyers, getting these unconstitutional laws upheld in courts around the nation, and none of the churches, communities, lawyers, etc haven’t teamed up to stop them.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:25amAnother atempt to take arms out of our hands so this country can be taken over be obama and his muslims commie bastards
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:24ami guess my mossberg will show up!!!!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:39amProbably but I am hoping my Glock won’t
Report Post »ReaganBaby
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:23amMore freedom removed in the name of public safety. When will progressives stop?
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:53amwhen they have choked the life out of anyone that disagrees with them
Report Post »Raven249
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:56amEasy answer, there. They won‘t stop until they’ve stripped us of every right that made us different from the Soviet Union.
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:59amCivil war coming soon to a city near you!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 1:05pmThey’ll stop when you, you personally, stand up and say “no” and start proudly exercising your inalienable rights without shame, and convince others to do so. Don’t wait for others to get the ball rolling, start the ball rolling yourself.
I open carry a lot now (in Ohio), to hell with what people think of it I say. It’s time to be open about our freedoms, we’ve acted the part of the cowed animal for too long. We’re men, not pack beasts and cattle, and it’s time to act like it again.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:30amThey’ll stop when enough of them are fed a lead pill and the message gets through their thick skulls that we Americans will not tolerate tyranny in any way, shape, or form, in our country.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 11:23amMore technology to steal your Constitutionally protected rights.
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