Report: Romney Campaign Officially Vetting Paul Ryan for VP
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Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has submitted paperwork to the Romney campaign and is officially being vetted for the vice presidential nomination, National Review reported late Friday afternoon.
Citing unnamed sources, writer Robert Costa said he was “reliably informed” of the development with the House Budget Committee chair.
Ryan endorsed Romney earlier this year and has repeatedly joined him on the campaign stump. Ryan’s camp declined to shed any light on the revelation, telling National Review, “Respecting their campaign’s internal process, we’re not going to comment.”
Though the Romney campaign has been tight-lipped about the possibilities for his No. 2 spot, the former Massachusetts governor admitted this week that Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is being “thoroughly vetted” after reports circulated that he was not under consideration.
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Comments (223)
Indymaverick
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:04amI would like to see Ryan destroy Biden in a debate. That makes for fun T.V.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:57amAgree .. wonder if they would sober old Joe up first or just let him be “himself”
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:28pmVetting…
Paul Ryan:
Report Post »CISPA
TARP (which ignited the Tea Party AGAINST HIM)
Auto Bailouts
Economic Stimulus 2008
ADDITIONAL Economic Stimulus 2009
Debt ceiling hikes
Comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty (AMNESTY)
Socialized employment (extending UC)
Socialized education (No Child Left Behind)
Socialized medicine (Medicare Prescription Drug “benefits”)
Socialized housing (Section 8 vouchers)
Head Start
4th shattering “Patriot” Act
NDAA
Nation-building
MORE nation-building
H.R. 347 (protest chilling)
3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:32pm@ brotherWinston
…and proposed a budget that didn’t balance for 28 years!!!!
the sad part is, I like him better than Rubio…. :(
Report Post »PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:32pmTwo Thumbs Up High. “Brother Winston Smith” delivers facts. Facts can be judged morally. Who cares if someone is a pretty boy or old or blind or ******’ their pants. Labels such as Republican or Dem. mean zip. Our society has been focused on labels and looks so for the last 20 years we had vile, evil, wicked leaders. Romney and Obummer are both vile, evil, and wicked leaders. R. Paul is the most moral candidate in 40 years. TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12 does not know his head from his asx on R. Paul. Ron Paul is pro life for example. God is pro life. All the other candidtates are anti god or have been on this issue. If you voters continue to vote for vile evil wicked leadres you will put your children in FEMA camps. It’s coming. 26,000 pastors have pledged to support FEMA when needed to silence the flocks and Halliburton is building camps to house 56 million US citizens. It’s time to stop focusing on politics and vote for righteous leaders.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:36pmBrother, isn’t it amazing how all these Republicans just go with the flow that the establishent feeds them? I just cannot understand it. They follow Glenn Beck blindly, even though Glenn has done a 180 on his rants about the dangers of progressives on both sides of the aisle. Do any of you know what a progressive is? We Paul supporters have figured it out, but then again, we are wide awake.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:47pmMy 4 year old daughter could beat Biden in a debate. Paul Ryan has a progressive budget that really will never be implemented. We dont have 30 years left to balance the budget.
Obama/Romney 2012 the road to bankruptcy. You think that bumper sticker is out yet?
Report Post »morningzoo
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:57pmYou reckon? Ryan mostly talks out of his butt and doesn’t project reality. Romney might as well run with Jerry Sandusky
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:03pmObama and Biden this is for you Psalm 109 verses 6-20
Report Post »smerg
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:04pmI’d like to see in a debate Ron Paul correct and convert Paul Ryan to govern by the Constitution.
Report Post »PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:41pmWho Would God Vote For In Nov.?
Report Post »With God Nov. is not about who was elected but who you voted for? Judgement is one on one with God. Did you vote for a moral leader or a vile, wicked, evil leader? With God it is not about who is the lesser of 2 evils. God expects you to vote for a moral leader.
You will be judged for the sole vote you cast and whether it was for a moral leader or a vile leader.
For example Lot was spared because he was a righteous man. Lot voted righteous all the time.
God’s judgement will reign on America in 20 years or less.
I personally don’t care who wins as long as I vote for a moral leader, I have done God’s bidding. I will let God take care of conclusion which may include a coming final judgement for America. Ask yourself this……why is the greatest nation on the planet with the greatest military in the history of the world not found in prophecy? Maybe Russia already nuked it before the end of times. Israel is there. Iran is in end prophecy. Russia is in end prophecy. China is in end prophecy. Turkey is in end prophecy. Where is the USA? It’s not there folks. What happened? Maybe you voted for vile evil wicked leaders and God’s Judgement fell upon America. America was wiped out. Who cold wipe us out and how? EMP or thermal nukes?
Your vote Nov. may be your last. Just think your family may never vote again. You better vote for a moral leader. R. Paul is the only moral leader for Prez.
Wolf
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:30pm@ BrotherSmith… exactly the kind of person ROmneycare wants running with him: identical twins.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:01amI love how the Paulbots come here and try to pose as normal people. They are all programmed with the same line of babble (NDAA, Bilderberg, everybody’s a progressive, etc.) . It’s like an elephant trying to hide behind a light pole.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:15am@QP
Report Post »Yea, we are not normal people – we are EVIL people because we disagree with progressive republicans
Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:16ami love how you dehumanize opposition like the nazis did.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:21amThey are a one trick pony. Romney vetted Ron Paul, it took 2 minutes.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:26am@individualism
Report Post »They are looking for…… “the final solution to the libertarian question”
progressiveslayer
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:28amWillie ‘Pose as normal people’? Were you born an A hole or did you have to work at it? Either way you succeeded.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:34am@QP, The NDAA was an atrocious act by congress and the president, don’t you think? I mean what good is protecting this country if we don’t protect the Liberty is was founded upon? As for progressives… Beck has offered his viewers only a slice of what it really is and supresses most attempts I’ve made to post about it. So perhaps we seem like one trick ponies to you, but most of us have had important honest posts deleted by the Blaze moderators that would actually demonstrate our diversity. Like it or not, the Blaze is a propaganda site too.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:29pmProgressive Paul Ryan:
CISPA
Report Post »TARP (which ignited the Tea Party AGAINST HIM)
Auto Bailouts
Economic Stimulus 2008
ADDITIONAL Economic Stimulus 2009
Debt ceiling hikes
Comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty (AMNESTY)
Socialized employment (extending UC)
Socialized education (No Child Left Behind)
Socialized medicine (Medicare Prescription Drug “benefits”)
Socialized housing (Section 8 vouchers)
Head Start
4th shattering “Patriot” Act
NDAA
Nation-building
MORE nation-building
H.R. 347 (protest chilling)
3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:38pm@QP
What wrong with YOU supporting all of that? Have you even bothered to look at Romney’s budget plan? It contains nearly as much deficit spending as we have been incurring under Obama.
I’d say people like you are the elephant behind the lightpole. A progressive, posing as a conservative, sneering at those who actually are. I’m not ashamed to be a Paul supporter and nobody is hiding.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:56pmTo all Paul supporters, do not listen to ostriches like QP and Time_2, Republicorp and the like. They will get their just deserves at some point in time. We know what the country needs, we are taking over the GOP in many states at the local and state level. We will continue into the next election and the next until we hae complete control. We cannot be stopped, we cannot be swayed, we cannot be corrupted by the establishment. If Romney happens to get the nomination in Tampa, keep to your oath and your principles, write in Pauls name on your ballot in November. We will send a clear message to the GOP that we will not let them choose a progressiv ever again. They must start putting up Constitutionally sound candidates, or they will never get our vote. Stand your ground, do not let the sheeple change your course. This is a political war, a r3VOLution and we are winning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhY1j3ZAMs
I watch this once everyday to help give me strength.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:02pmQP:
Report Post »I’ve been taking a different approach and making an earnest effort to understand the activism in which they are engaged. Initially I’ve concluded they lack the patience the Progressives have shown since Wilson and prior and anyone they deem as incapable of supporting change within the context of a single election cycle is vilified as stupid, uninformed, ignorant, liberal, unconstitutional etc. Watch me get “beotch” slapped and blazerunner will rejoice….BRO may even cut and paste my comments and employ some arbitrary tactic of singling out my LIES and his TRUTHS. Each response however does provide incredible insight…
Mutiny
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:16pmI love how the antipaulbots come on here everyday and post the same garbage and ignore facts. Its funny they never debate the videos and audio clips of the various things posted. They just copy and paste their preformed sheep response.
“Romney isnt a commie, ABO, Obama has done all of this himself, we must control Israel”.
When you really think about it, Obama has spent a ton of money. He has enacted laws like the NDAA which take away freedoms. He has kept us in the UN and has killed a lot of people in other countries. He has done practically nothing to make us energy independent. He supports the FED and their actions.
Romney on the other hand has a budget that spends a ton of money. He supports bills like the NDAA that take away freedoms. He is for us staying in the UN and kill people in other countries. He said he would work to make us energy independent but also has been for global warming crap. He supports the FED and their actions.
One coin, two sides. Hell based on what I just said one coin on the same side really.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:22pmYou are about right.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:22pmLEFTCOAST.
ATTENCION! ATTENCION!! “To all Paul supporters, do not listen to ostriches like QP and Time_2, Republicorp and the like….”
Lmao. That’s right… listen to LEFTCOAST. His “Straw-wife“ the ”Psychologist” will beotch slap you with some of that 3rd Party clinical diagnosis if you start to waiver in your Ron Paul LOV3.
Or at the very worst… LEFTCOAST will come to your house and pull out some of those “it’s a VEGGIE MORNING” martial arts moves he learned from the V-8 commercials on TV and pull the table cloth out from under your Ron Paul Action Figure Breakfast cereal bowl and Ron Paul sippy cups !!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:42pmTime_2, You are a funny guy, but as far as my martial arts experience, I had a good sensei: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWoIZPy538U&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLE7137CFB9CE76264
LOL
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:59pmLEFTCOAST. I can‘t believe a grown man like you in his 50’s actually posted that clip ! You’re almost like a school girl with a crush on Justin Beiber !! Lmao! The stuff you fanboys will do…. or post.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:21pm@WEST COAST PATRIOT
Report Post »We will continue into the next election and the next until we hae complete control.
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Phew! DUDE, I was starting to worry about the dire consequences of mass Kool-Aid ingestion by the Ron Baa Party! What a relief to know that you are the type of cult that simply resets dates when the (political) prophecies fail.
justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 6:46pm@Kryptonite, You seriously don’t think RP has made an impact on the party? I think he’s had a tremendous effect myself. I think he might have pulled it off if he lied and came off more militant than he was in the debates myself based on the amount of people that said they liked everything about him except his foreign policy. Besides, most of the establishment GOP is old, white and close to kicking the bucket, and the next generation is already in love with the idea of Liberty. I‘m am proud of what he’s accomplished.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:46pmAnybody wanna guess what percentage of Paulestinians have full-time jobs? My guess…less than 25%.
Get a job you losers!
Now where did I leave my fetus burger…….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:32pm@Goodstuff, I don’t have a job. I get all my money from the VA. Am I loser?
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:34amSounds to me that Romney keeps leaking who he is “vetting” to stick his finger in the wind to see which way it is blowing. Also sounds to me that he is trying to ride the tail coat of his VP choice because he does not have enough support to give him a sound win. Personally the VP choice makes no difference to me as he is just a figure head and breaks a tie in the Senate.
Paul Ryan, a conservative? That is a joke. Didn’t his plan call for balancing the budget in 20+ years. Wow, that will get us on the road to recovery fast. Oh, not to mention his support for NDAA, CISPA, etc, etc, etc. I forgot, we did not get here overnight so we will not solve our problems overnight; 20 years to balance the budget, what a joke. America is just like Europe. No one is willing to take the pain now because it is easier to put it off, knowing full well the storm is coming and it will be your kids that pay the price.
FYI… Brazil just made a new currency deal with CHINA! The rest of the world is debasing from the USD due to our monetary policy and world politics. When that happens, our ship will sink like the Titanic. As with the Titanic we do not have enough life boats. Happy sailing.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:43amWhen China stops buying our debt and the dollar loses reserve currency status we’re finished,and we will truly see change we can believe in and no politician spewing their BS will change that fact.
Report Post »BIgWheeler
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:56am“Paul Ryan, a conservative? That is a joke. Didn’t his plan call for balancing the budget in 20+ years”
These things need to be done carefully. Like it or not, people depend on things like welfare, foodstamps, and other government programs. Easing them off is better than cutting them off immediately. You wouldn’t want your doctor to use a chainsaw to get rid of your cancer quickly.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:59amYea, Romney is trying to keep people interested. In the end, it will come down to Rubio/Daniels – the establishment and NWO would have it no other way
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:58amSOY. If someone stated something like this… would it make him a NWO leaner ??
There’s nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency…. The effort in recent decades to unify government surveillance over all world trade and international financial transactions through the UN, IMF, World Bank, WTO, ICC, the OECD, and the Bank of International Settlements can never substitute for a peaceful world based on true free trade, freedom of movement, a single but sound market currency, and voluntary contracts with private property rights…. The ultimate solution will only come with the rejection of fiat money worldwide, and a restoration of commodity money. Commodity money if voluntarily and universally accepted could give us a single world currency requiring no money managers, no manipulators orchestrating a man-made business cycle with rampant price inflation.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:12pm@Time2
That would make him a constitutional scholar – in the mold of the founders.
Free trade is simply removal of government from the marketplace – did you know that? Free trade with other countries is an extension of that principle and is the best way to avoid unneccesary wars. Nice try with that ‘worldwide currency” thing – i notice there were no quotations in your post….Notice the attention paid to a “single but sound market currency” and “rejection of fiat money worldwide”. He is obviously talkking about the gold standard – the only cure to the ills of our Federal Reserve, corrupt monetary system, and inflation (tax on all americans).
Keep it up man, you are becoming a sharp tool for the message
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:59pmSOY. I would’t expect you to read it any other way while also applying the typical spin… that’s why I put it up there.
I think Ron Paul has made it clear he wants a world gold standard like the one we had that got us into the depression, the same one which existed before 1913 and after 1913. A pure gold standard would cause massive deflation. He wants private banks to issue bank notes where the debt-based dollars are only partially backed by gold. Ron Paul is funded by the banking cartel, specificially “Peter Thiel” (do your research SOY), and he wants what he constantly promotes, the old fraud, the gold standard. his school of economics, the Austrian school of economics, is funded by the same people who funded the United Nations and the World Bank, the Rockefeller Foundation and William Volker Fund. Ron Paul is a puppet for the wants and desires of the World Bank and United Nations IMO.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:49pmyea cuz that new fraud is so much better than the old fraud, huh?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:51pmBtw SOY, I purposely left the quotation marks off along with who said it.
Add quotation marks…. AND Ron Paul, Congressional Record, March 13, 2001.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:06pmSLAYER:
Report Post »There’s change “you can believe in” and then there’s the change you have to believe is coming. We need to continue to find and elect those courageous enough point out the latter and actually work toward the prior sans a lot of Bravo Sierra…
Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:13pmEND and SOY:
I’ve already posted some comments on the single currency. There’s little doubt that the Euro was an exercise, apparently in futility, of a single currency across cultural and economic lines. Doesn’t it appear that more exposure (debt?) on the part of the “Host” (Germany) is the only way to provide continued support for the parasites (Greece)?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:21pmQuestion SOY:
To my recollection Paul has pushed for a return to the Gold standard. This is where I get lost, with an understanding China is hoarding gold (and lead) in record amounts. Are you and Dr. Paul suggesting there will never be a war over the physical possession of Gold? To me, it doesn’t seem much different than geography, which historically has been the second reason for a “just war”.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:37pmTime_2, Paul is talking about the dangers of fiat money as a global currency by the world central banks with the FED being at the top. If you want to hear his entire speech, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dH3_Lcfeac
The short version is that when Dr. Paul says, free trade, he means FREE trade – not government managed trade that is called free trade. i.e. – he doesn’t mean NAFTA.
By, globalization, Paul is talking about the ultimate division of labor along the lines of Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations not corporate raiders taking advantage of differences in nationalistic regulations to exploit labor.
By, single world currency, Dr. Paul is referring to gold and silver which the market has already decided up for the the last 5000 and 500 years respectively as true, real money.
If we were forced into a world economic order, a new era, it would be better to have a sound money system rather than a fiat money system like what is in place today. You can try to twist Paul around to fit whatever you like but the truth will never go away.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:18pmLEFTCOAST. The problem is that you’ve accepted Mises, Rothbard‘s and Ron Paul’s Austrian School of Economics horse crap hook line and sinker and regurgitate it like a good Ron Paul acolyte.
Regardless of YOUR spin… what I do know is that Ron Paul has never advocated Constitutional public debt-free notes like George Washington’s Continental which won the American Revolution, or Lincoln’s Greenback which won the Civil War because he knows they can be used to end national debt and income taxation. He promotes wealth-stealing and expensive hard currency and the even worse competing currencies debunked by Adam Smith in 1776. There is nothing good about deflation. There is nothing good about the government intervening in commodity markets for precious metals by declaring them legal tender. There is nothing good about money absent of regulated value. The gold dollar gained in value during the Depression and people were thrown out of their homes and out of work as the wealthy sat on their gold as it increased in value, stealing a free lunch by state-granted privilege.
“Free market” money and deregulation enables absolute manipulation and fraud, where the government is monetizing and demonetizing currencies and where bankers are inflating one currency while creating deflation in another currency, leading to the bankers and commodity traders getting richer at the expense of the not so rich.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:43pm@TIME_2
Report Post »WEST COAST PATRIOT said, “You can try to twist Paul around to fit whatever you like but the truth will never go away.”
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Hey, TIME, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Ron Paul. He is the way, the truth and the life of this country. Without him we are on the road that leads to destruc- wait a minute. Did WCP just insinuate that Ron Paul will never go away? Oh no.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 6:17pmKRYPTONITE. I’m not sure, but I might change my screen name to…
TIME_2_END_WESTCOAST’s_GIRLY_LOVE_AFFAIR_WITH_A_76_YEAR_OLD_MAN.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:51pm@Inlightofthings
“Question SOY:
To my recollection Paul has pushed for a return to the Gold standard….”
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China does not have all the gold in the world. Lots of countries have it. Our government claims to have a lot at Fort Knox. You dont need to have all the gold in the world in order to have a gold standard. Here is how it can work. Say (lets assume) we have 1,000,000,000 ounces of gold at Fort Knox. If we were on a gold standard, the government could start by having each dollar backed by 1 ounce of gold (so we would have 1,000,000,000 dollars floating around). These dollars would be redeemable for an ounce of gold. Government could not inflate unless they had more ounces of gold. So if the international price of gold went up, so would the value of our currency. That is my rudamentary understanding of it -but judging by the interpretations of people like Time2, it is more than sufficient.
I dont know what you are talking about by bringing war into the equation. There is gold in the world today, and nobody is fighting wars over it. When your money is not backed by anything and when you have a fractional reserve system, you are more likely to go into war because of financial alliances and corupt bankers. We entered WWI for this reason (look it up). WWII happend as a result of WWII. Think about how different the world would be – all because of currency
Report Post »LaBelle
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:30amExcellent choice!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:37amI disagree. That pick doesn’t pander to the moderate Democrats and Independants at all. They all see him as the destruction of their social programs and nothing more. The Liberty Movement sees him for his anti-Liberty voting record. On the other hand this is the first thing that Romney‘s done that I wouldn’t consider pandering to anyone.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:52amJUSTYOU moderate Democrats will vote for the guy that will save their job and house. Research Reagan.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:17amRomney would never do it. Romney knows he needs someone with charisma because he has none (just like 2008). Paul Ryan is not terrible, but he is book smart and they are looking for a pitbull
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:25amRepublicorp, There’s nothing that can convince me to vote for Romney myself. I’m just calling it like I see it. I mean we are talking about Americans here. I‘m guessing Ryan’s image for a lot of people is of that commercial of him pushing granny off the cliff.
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 3:31am@soybomb315
Report Post »And somewhere tonight,Rick Santorum is crying like a little girl,because he soooo wanted to be that pitbull.He’s been practicing since the debates,going after Mr.Paul at every turn.
VRW Conspirator
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:29amRomney is vetting several people…last week all the talk was about Rubio…now this week it is Ryan… If I was Romney, I wouldn’t choose either of them…I would secret vet 3-4 people and choose from them… Rubio is needed in the Senate as part of the SCF with DeMint, Lee, and Rand…and Ryan needs to be our next Speaker of the House and kick out all the current GOP leadership….strip them of everything including Committee chairs….
Report Post »West would be great…or Hailey or maybe Daniels but not so sure on him either….Romney needs a strong conservative first, then a female or minority second, and a Southerner or Westerner to pull those swing states away from Obama…..
This is not about who YOU like this is about WINNING and making Obama an asterik in history…the first black and the first marxist President….that nearly destroyed the country…that is what history will say about him in 20 years… IF we turn things around…if not..history will see him as the Great Leader like Mao or Stalin or Lenin…..
LeadNotFollow
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:04am…
Report Post »According to Wiki, Ryan graduated from Joseph A. Craig High School in Janesville in 1988. He was voted prom king and “Biggest Brown-Noser” by his fellow classmates.
fastfacts
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:22amWHY DO WE CARE WHAT WIKI SAYS… EVERYONE KNOWS THE PROGRAM IS INACCURATE
What we should look at is what we know about him and what he is doing in Congress right now, the vetting of his past will come from the Romney campaign.
Did you hear him praised during the Texas Debates last night between Ted Cruz and David Dewhust, Ted praised his plan. Here is the whole debate: http://tiny.cc/ws0cgw
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:00am…
Google Paul Ryan’s Wiki page. I personally don’t care for his association with the works of Russian, Atheist, Objectivist, Ayn Rand.
Ayn Rand is the developer of a philosophical system she called Objectivism.
Wiki states, In 2005, Ryan said, “The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand”. New York magazine has claimed that Ryan requires his staff to read Atlas Shrugged.
Also, Wiki states, In 2005, Ryan spoke at a Celebration of Ayn Rand event hosted by The Atlas Society. During the event, Ryan spoke about the influence of Atlas Shrugged on his life.
There are some good things on his Wiki page, but also some bad things, that concern me greatly. I think Romney should pass on this guy and keep looking.
Report Post »This entire comment is in my opinion. You decide for yourself, if he’s a good choice for Vice President.
colt6920
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:15amWhats your point? So he likes his staff to read a book oooooo he‘s probable a surrogate for the devil isn’t he? Waaaa Ayn Rand was an atheist..so what.. the point of her book was still dead on, and 100% applicable today. Let me guess you’ve never read it, and one of your church buddies told you she was a bad person. Grow up. Of course what more can we expect from someone who cites the always reliable Wikipedia.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:20am…
Report Post »I think just recently, Paul Ryan has rejected Ayn Rand’s philosophy.
Is this the way he truly feels in his heart, or is it just a political strategy?
Only Ryan and God knows this answer.
Psychosis
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:36amhe did not reject ayn rand
and you dont have to agree with every single point of a philosophy
nice try , but it looks like we have a troll with at least a little intelligence but is still outclassed here
wikki as a source ……………………..now THAT is funny
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:04am…
Ayn Rand’s hero was a murderer named William Edward Hickman. He kidnapped a child, held her for ransom, then murdered and dismembered her.
She liked this guy because she thought he was an individualist. She liked him because he had feelings for no one, needed no one, and thought of no one but himself. She liked him because he was selfish.
This murderer was an evil sociopath and recluse. I think in her warped mind, she thought this was individualism.
Her philosophy is not right for America. I will not vote for a follower of Ayn Rand. She stumbled upon a few things about capitalism that could work, but overall, this woman was a nut-case. She believed in “me, me, me, every man for himself and to H*LL with your neighbor”.
Report Post »rray
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:13amRyan should add Rose Wilder Lane and Isabel Paterson to his staff’s reading list, might as well include all three of the Mothers.
Report Post »skiz
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:46amWho gives a crap about wiki or google. You people are pathetic. Check out a person by his record and what he says he stands for and does. Geez..wiki, what a joke! Paul Ryan would be a great choice for VP. Rubio would also work. Ron Paul for Fed Chairman! LMAO!!!
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:43pmIf you want some reasons to dislike Ryan just look at his voting reord—not particularly conservative.
Report Post »Nobody cares about the dopes he went to high school with or the books he read.
cassandra
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:00amPaul Ryan is my choice also, he will bring some fiscal responsibility to the WH, this is great I did not like Rubio take on immigrates, If you are here illegaly go back and start a movment to change your own country and stop living off the sweat of the American worker, maybe then we can stop pushing a button for english
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:54pmPaul Ryan‘s proposed budget plann didn’t balance the federal budget for 28 years. Also you might want to review his voting record befor you decide if you think he’s“ conservative”
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:47amRomney is vetting several candidates. Ryan is a great choice but I’m still holding our for Allen West. Maybe he will end up with Hillary Clinton’s job instead? Oh, yah. :) Romney has a lot of good people to fill his cabinet, and they are all pretty conservative. They will whip this economy into shape in no time, but we will need to support them, since they will now have to make the hard choices Democrats just IGNORED for the last 6 years. :(
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:59am“Ryan is a great choice but I’m still holding our for Allen West.”
Ditto.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:06amROFLMBO- yup… Romney-West: exactly what we need to lead this country. Two more anti-Constitution RINOs.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:14am@EqualJustice
Report Post »I was hoping Allen West would run for the top spot on the ticket. He would be my choice for VP but I’m kinda torn – We have far too few people like him in congress.
Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:16amAllen West was my choice for president but would love to see him picked as VP.
Report Post »AUsername
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:37amAllen West that guy is a joke, hes an immature kid and his voting record is unconstitutional.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:54amAusholeName – Obama that guy is a joke, hes an immature kid and his voting record is unconstitutional. There, I fixed it for you.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:02pmWest lost me altogether when he joined the Communist Black Caucus. So why did he decide to shack up with commies? What does a black military man have in common with black commies? “They are black like me,” says Allen West, “and I can effect change from within.” I agree that they are black like you, but the only glaring change is that you now pal around with Castro’s ambassadors to the United States.
I‘ll support any of the R’s. I will never support a politician who associates himself with any brand of communism.
Report Post »Crazy Times
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:43amWest, Christie, R. Paul, Haley, Rubio, Ryan….
.. any of these and I’ll be happy
I would really like to see West or Christie as VP though.. because with those two we know they would not take any smack from any progressive commies…..
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:36amRyan is to busy pushing old ladies in wheelchairs off cliffs…………
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:48amAs long as Romney/Ryan pushes us back on track to following the Constitution, are truthful, loves America, honors the job, he is okay with me.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:51pmTARP, the NDAA and the Patriot Act don’t “follow the constitution” and Ryan supported those, so I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:28amPaul Ryan the guy who made joke budgets. screw that Gary Johnson 2012, this is the only one running who will change what we currently got.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:36amINDY:
Report Post »Can you provide some specifics? I’d like to know details of your position as opposed to reading rhetoric…
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:41amGary Johnson has that creepy Libertarian look to him doesn’t he INDIV? Anyways… smoke ‘em if ya’ got ‘em INDIV. Just don’t do the “bath salts” or you might be looking to gnaw Gary Johnson’s face off. I know many that feel that way just listening to him speak.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:43amYep, Gary Johnson, this year’s H. Ross Perot. He will be about that effective at re-electing 0bama.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:46amhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/record
Here is some info about this great candidate and i can find your more if you like.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:48amGary Johnson is favored by the ACLU….I’m suspicious now!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:49am@Individualism
Copied directly from your comment: “screw that Gary Johnson”.
I agree!!
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:50amyou can look gary johnson up on wiki, you can also type in a search engine gary johnson issues or gary johnson track record. if the sources don’t come u on here.
Romney is Obama.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:53amACLU is not your enemy, they protect civil liberties and your constitutional rights its a shame a party once dedicated to protecting the constitution is now demonizing those who do like this group.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:57am@Individualism
Report Post »Wiki is owned and operated by a couple of flaming liberals. They probably love Gary Johnson.
Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:59amYou can’t sell that ACLU Bravo Sierra here INDY….
Report Post »barber2
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:18amAlways interesting to hear from the Throw Away Your Vote / aka Vote Obama Crowd !
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:32am@barber2
Report Post »You’re not throwing away your vote. You’re handing over to 0bama.
barber2
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:45amQP: that ‘s my point. A third party vote is a vote for OBAMA. This is the Left’s Plan B : Divide the Dumb Conservatives Campaign 2012 strategy ( Plan A : Smear Every Possible Conservative Candidate )
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:50amvoting for romney is vote for obama, Obama = Romney, so by voting Romney your voting a for a far left progressive just like Obama.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:20amThey thought that by cutting Ron Paul off, they would solve the ‘constitutional question’. But another has emerged, and arguably, he is Ron Paul with executive experience. Establishment has every reason to be worried – just look at the nonsense these guys are posting
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:25am@barber2
Report Post »OK, I get it. Sorry for the misread.
AUsername
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:27ambob you must know how it feels being stupid because all you do is murder people for a living.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:29am@Individualism
Report Post »That’s just plain ignorant. First, you’d have to think 0bama is no worse than just another leftist, which is not the case. Even if Romney was a progressive (which he’s not), he would still be infinitely better than another term for 0bama.
Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:48amhe is a typical leftist his policies were what they want until gop got house and stopped it in its tracks. Obamacare came from Romneycare, Obama did stimulus and bailouts and Romney said it was good, Romney and Obama both flip flopped on the same issues, both support pre emptive war and endless war, neither has plans to cut real spending as a matter of fact they both plan to increase. i can think of many more things to show how there about the same.
people should vote on who they think is best for the job not party and i don’t care if Obama got relected rather than Romney because i would get the samethings under Romney than i would under Obama.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:52amAusholeName – You make me laugh buddy, LOL! The more you idiots type, the more people will vote Conservative, so thanks…..even though you are too stupid to understand it.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:24pm@Individualism
Report Post »When you cast a write-in vote for somebody who has no chance of winning, you are making a game of the whole process. You should be ashamed of having so little respect for a country which even protects the rights of a bunch of wild eyed cultists like yourself.
justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:30pm@QP
“You should be ashamed of having so little respect for a country which even protects the rights of a bunch of wild eyed cultists like yourself.”
That has to be the dumbest statement I’ve seen you make. And there have been many. Sure our government is protecting us from quartering troops in our houses for the moment. All other rights have been scrubbed by both parties. What other rights do we have now? What rights did any of the other R’s support?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:35pmINDIVIDUALISM
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:48am
…”people should vote on who they think is best for the job not party and i don’t care if Obama got relected rather than Romney because i would get the samethings under Romney than i would under Obama”…
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Wrong INDY. Obama will hand over a full two thirds of our co-equal branches of our government to Liberal / Progressives. If that happens it will never come back and you know it – which is why I am very suspicious of your presence here. Are you a quitter and destroyer…and just trying to get others to quit and destroy along with you? Paul has merit but Johnson goes into a category all his own. Paul has already said he can’t win….so again, you are giving up SCOTUS and I won’t – based on principle.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:51pmBob-The-Fake-Oathkeeper, Stop being a fake. You are not an Oathkeeper, I am an Oathkeeper and you just do not have the principls needed. Go to Oathkeepers and read: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
If you are, or even if your not, a veteran or active duty military, go here and join in the fight to preserve the Constitution. Be a true patriot that will fight against tyranny everywhere. Fight against the NDAA, Patriot Act, TSA, and all unconstitutional acts.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:24pm@WCP, I had a great talk with Bob last night, and we were wrong. You and I don’t see eye to eye with him on the Oath Keepers true, however I‘m positive he isn’t posing. He was a Marine and one of the first Americans to see my squadron’s handy work on the Highway of Death up close and personal. We‘re lucky he’s not in the fetal position talking to himself or worse. Just FYI, he’s definitely a brother.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 4:07pmGary Johnson? You mean the guy who borrows other people’s jokes and passes them off as his own? That guy? How witty.
There was a similar instance in the 2008 campaign… Ah, yes, dumb Obum plagiarized a friend’s speech. Yup, there you have it: kindred minds; two neuron-free zones.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 4:12pmWESTCOAST – You are sorely mistaken pal.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 4:25pmwell well if we can get things to work through the system than we must destroy and recreate the system like in 1776.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:10pmINDY:
I’ve been doing some DD on a number of fronts with respect to statements here concerning Paul and the TEA party. ie calling TEA groups and asking questions about Paul support etc. No TEA party “group” I talked to is voting for Ron Paul or Gary (who?) Johnson as they know the net effect. Re-elect Obama and there is no chance of rebuilding the system of 1776 since as I said, 2 of the 3 co-equal branches will be held by liberal progressives.
Current state of progressivism has been 50 plus years in the making…Romney = Obama is going to become with the biggest misnomer of 2012 when it’s understood that a vote for Obama = a vote to turn 2/3 of the government over to liberals. Even a fool can see the truth of that statement and the net result.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:48pm@Inlight, I’m at a point where liberal and conservative rarely enter my vocabulary. It’s originalist vs. progressive. Romney is not an originalist and I highly doubt he’d appoint originalist judges as his record already indicates. Seems to me the status quo has rigged this election so the Supreme Court will shift unless Thomas and Scalia hang in there four more years rendering everything else meaningless.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:58pmANGRY:
Report Post »Okay then…the Progressive Breyer and Ginsburg are likely to retire prior to 2016 at 74 and 79 current age respectively. The “originalist” / conservative Scalia is 76 and the wildcard Kennedy is 76. I’m not interested in rolling the dice. Whoever gets the Nomination has my vote and most TEA groups I’ve talked to feel the same way. None want a scorched earth reconstruction and all know the solution…win more elections.
justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:16pm@Inlight, Say Ginsburg, Breyer, Scalia, and Thomas all retire and Romney does win. Being an R that sounds like a dream come true, but he’s a progressive R who has had a history of appointing liberal judges. The Constitution would be in serious jeopardy, no? BTW, I do hope I’m wrong, you know?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:57pmANGRY:
I may be wrong too, but I think there has been a clear momentum shift to the right. Romney would need to know Day 1 that he’ll suffer a 4 year long political a$$ whooping if he doesn’t 1) Repeal ACA and 2) Appoint conservative justices.
I don’t think it would be hard to convince Romney that he will be MORE beatable in 2016 than Obama was in 2012. I keep sayin’ the key is win more elections, not just to control the legislation but momentum will have a heavy influence. Wisconsin as close to the model as we can get for turning liberal states. NY, Il and Ca are lost causes which is why he needs to be accountable for states’ rights…just like he said. On the legislative side…Boehner and McConnel should be demoted just for effect.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 12:34am@Inlightofthings
When it comes to supreme court judges remember….The president appoints and the senate confirms. If Obama wins, you know the republicans will give ANY of the nominees hell. Obama would have to appoint the most conservative liberal judge. If Romney wins, we know he will appoint a liberal conservative judge (thats what he is and thats what he’s done in the past).
What is the difference between a conservative liberal judge versus a liberal conservative judge???Not much
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:26amThis sure leaves me feeling a lot better than the story that claimed Pawlenty was a top seed. Paul Ryan offers a unique understanding of our fiscal mess. Pawlenty was just an example of why people have concerns of Mitt’s conservatism.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:18amToo bad he’s not on top of the ticket. I would absolutely love to see him debate Obama. He would make Barry look like the naive child that he is.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:26amRyan would change the historically do-nothing position to a do-soemthing position. I read how Ryan is better for the fiscal cause with respect to the budget committee, but as Veep he could bridge the executive branch and the legislative branch given his solid reputation and respect in the house. The right pick at the Treasury and Romney could be on to something….
A bonus would be the entertainment value of 3 debates with Biden…
Report Post »PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:24amVP have no value unless the Prez dies. They are just pretty boys for votes. Romney is almost as vile as obummer as an liberal politician and occult leader.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:31amPROSECUTE:
Report Post »You do a great job of framing what our country is really up against…
Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:36amGary Johnson is the man to vote for than
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:54amYou guys frighten old ladies and children.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:10amINDIVIDUALISM I bet you piss into the wind……….
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:00pmWhy are you guys so scared that you resort to such tactics?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:36pmREPUBLICORP. INDIV has shown himself to be the kind of guy that pees on your leg and tells you it raining out…
Report Post »PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:22amNo VP will cleanse the vile evil wicked Prez candidates of Obummer or Romney. The voters prefer a vile evil wicked leader to a moral leader. R. Paul was the most moral leader candidate in 40 years.
Report Post »The people prefer to see their lives and country turned into a marxist UN state nation and be totally dictated to their lives maybe even ending up in a FEMA interrment camp. It’s all coming to America.
Paul Ryan is just another Washington beltway terrrorist.
Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:30amAll negative…all the time….
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:36amGary Johnson or Obama are the choices we have. Gary Johnson has the platform of Paul with the social freedom aspect and the executive experience and great record. Romney is Obama.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:55am“Gary Johnson has the platform of Paul with the social freedom aspect…”
Drugs, child-porn and prostitution….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:24am@Hey Time2, hadn’t seen you for a while. I’m still in favor of the social freedom movement at the Federal level myself. Not because I think anyone should be doing any of those things, but because the excuse the Feds use to enforce vice is progressive. We got to close that loophole bud, because the lefties are using that loophole to do some really bad things. Well the GOP is too, but…
You are arguing the platform of Elizabeth Cady Stanton, the Grimke sisters, and a host of other social progressives right out of Seneca Falls Convention. It does amuse me when I see a hardened combatant arguing for some of the same things as the first “Angry Old Bitty” club.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:34amJUST. Haven’t spent much time here lately due to business…
But…for a conservative, there can never be a Libertarian/Ron Paul/Gary Johnson option because the “well-rounded” Conservative (Libertarians are NOT Conservatives) understands the “social contract”. The Conservative understands the relationship between rights and responsibility, liberty and license. He recognizes that individual behavior is not always a private matter. Sometimes it’s between you and society, you and your neighbor, you and the vulnerable. Sometimes your behavior is, in fact, somebody else’s business.
The Conservative understands that laws have the power to order behavior and encourage civilized society. The Libertarian loses sleep, believing that legal restrictions and social norms exist just to oppress him.
With all the Libertarian emphasis on personal liberty, there is remarkably little attention paid to personal obligation. In fact, the notion of obligation itself is almost anathema…“no one should be forced to do anything”.
The Libertarian belief that it is always unconstitutional for the federal government to interfere in a state matter would effectively vacate the basic civil rights the Constitution was created to protect. For example… Ron Paul being an obstetrician insists he is pro-life, but who would kick the abortion issue back to the individual states and let them decide which babies, in which states, will be allowed to live. So much for liberty eh?
Report Post »skiz
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:01pmCome on! Folks we have to go one step at a time. If you all think Johnson has a chance in hell, (sorry @INDIVIDUALISM~ I dont mean to offend you with fairytale places) you are delutional! It needs to go like this:
Report Post »1) Get rid of the muslim man-boy pathetic liar obama.
2) Hold Romney’s feet to the fire.
3) Pile in Conservative (not repbulican, big difference) into congress 2014.
4) Vote a more constitutional, unafraid, non-polititian, TEA PARTY candidate in 2016.
It’s called a plan people. If we devide ourselves up obama wins game over! Duh!
Onward and upward. God bless us all (oh, except INDIVIDUALISM just dirt blessings to you sir).
soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:19pm@Skiz
Thanks for posting, get so tired of hearing those standard lame responses from the other guys.
Individualism knows Johnson has no chance of winning – it is about making your voice heard in the voting booth. Too many people in this country vote based on who they think will win, i estimate that was 50% of Romney voters in the republican primary – SAD.
Here is the question….I would like to know exactly how this “hold his feet to the fire” thing is going to work. How are you going to get the existing republicans to not run for re-election in 2014? How are you going to get Romney to not run for re-election in 2016? Of all the things I have heard – those seem like the most unrealistic. But really, how do you expect to hold Romney’s feet to the fire when he danced through the republican primary without having to make a single conservative compromises? As we have seen the last few weeks, now he is free to go after the soft middle.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:28pmSKIZ, In my opinion, you are exactly right. Your avatar reminds to watch Billy Jack again too, haven’t seen that in a long time.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:51pm@Time2… Blaze moderators got to me again though they welcome honest debate. pfft! You’re forgetting the ammendment process. (I think that‘s all they’ll let me get away with saying)
@Skiz, Your plan sounds fine with exception to what will happen in reality. We go the moderate route, by getting rid of a muslim progressive for a republican progressive. Fine, I think he’s an athiest or agnostic tbh, (never heard of a Muslim Choom Gang). That progressive R motivates the left for some reason, and they win the next round pushing us further to the left. This is the cycle we’re in. Why not push as far right as we can, so when we lose power they’ll have a more difficult time pushing us left? In other words, reverse the cycle. Seems to me we’re being outsmarted by the left. 3 steps to the left, one to the right over and over again.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:26pmJUST. There are the not so obvious “buzzwords” that keep some comments from being posted. Can’t quite figure out what they are?? Aside from the obvious cuss words, supposedly unPC stuff etc…, I can’t quite figure out why a lot of seemingly tame comments/discussions/rebuttals don’t post? I had this problem some weeks back when I was writing about the different types of legal rationals, definitions and authorizations to go to war….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:35pm@Time2, That’s not it. I asked the moderators about it during live chat during the debates. I was immediately shut down by Eddie Scary for talking off topic, while they were discussing RP’s suit being too big and his ugly ties. I’ve emailed every outlet I can regarding this issue with no other response. The illuminati don’t want me talking about it. End of story.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:44pmJUST. Don’t know then… but is DOES frustrate me too. But I just keep plugging along and leave the whining to others…
Anyways, “….they were discussing RP’s suit being too big and his ugly ties” you wrote that they said…
LOL…. well, they DO have a point about Dr Ron Paul Rumpled Suit….
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:56pmits not over if Obama gets relected, why don’t you research what happened in iceland with the overthrow of the goverment, peaceful protesting and the bankers being arrested for causing the financial crash, when people are mad and upset over here that can happen. they made a new constitution and elected actual people to form the new goverment and if that fails than 1776 all over again baby.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:02pmTime_2, I have posted this to you in the past, several times, but you ignore the fact and keep on saying Libertarians are not conservative:
“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.” – Ronald Reagan
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:44pmLEFTCOAST.
Libertarians today, compared to those when the movement was gaining momentum as a respite to the Liberal party circa 1975 thereby garnering Reagan’s attention briefly are as crooked as they come. They are routinely bought and sold across party lines degrading of the Constitution to suit their flights of fancy (claiming Americans must advocate isolationism as if Washington’s farewell speech somehow penned such “hands-off” rhetoric in invisible ink through an amendment no one can find) and are routinely racist, bigoted and anti-Semitic morons.
No LEFT, today’s Libertarians are not the “Libertarian-Conservatives” Reagan once praised, they are, indeed, Socialists. They advocate a one-nation, isolated country, similar to that witnessed under the Lenin and Stalin regimes. A vision that if realized would run its course to the end result of an American implosion, the world as we know it resorting to anarchy… terrorists, bigots, fascists, murderous dictators rising again to rule, with our enemies that have battled us from the days of the Barbary Wars taking hold throughout the globe. Today’s Libertarians, by endorsing a system wherein “The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood” (thank you again Reagan for the analogy) are sanctioning not only global restructuring but the very installation of state-by-state Socialism where anarchy would indeed soon follow…
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:38pmTIME,
Report Post »Sometimes the censored word is embedded, e.g., docuument, circuumstances.
Inlightofthings
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:20amLet’s hear it SOY, LIBERTY, INDY, BRO, MUTINY….et al…
What’s WRONG with Paul Ryan?
SOY:
Another topic…I asked this question different ways at different times….thanks for the link to the dailypaul site…
http://www.dailypaul.com/241484/putting-an-idea-forward#comments
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:50am“Let’s hear it SOY, LIBERTY, INDY, BRO, MUTINY….et al…”
Obama’s “Liberal-lite” base of committed voters…
Report Post »barber2
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:19amTime: Bingo. You have noticed, also ?
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Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:42amBARBER2. Noticed months ago. Ron Paul supporters/Gary Johnson supporters are all in the tank for Obama one way or the other… regardless of how they spin it. And I really think they have no problem with that at all.
If they truly cared about our country at this particular moment in American history (just as in ‘08) AND acted as the clear-thinking intelligent Patriots that they portray themselves to be… then they would be on-board with the only game in town which is Romney (sorry to say). “Conscience” my @ss.
I have no use for either Ron Paul or most his supporters (especially his supporters)… never have. I think that’s been obvious… lol.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:03amhis budgets are a joke and don‘t really cut anything besides proposed increases and also war don’t have 20 years to balance the budget before a financial meltdown occurs again that will be far worse than the last.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:09amIf you like Romney than you should like Obama because they have the same policies, same positions and same backers. so if your willing to vote for Romney than don’t complain about Obama being reelected because he would give you the same that Romney would.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:14am@Inlightofthings
I’m not sure what you mean. I rarely go to daily paul except when you link to it – thanks for that. Please explain what you mean to say by posting that link.
Paul Ryan is a step in the right direction, but just like other have posted on this thread – he is probably just being vetted in order to pacify the conservative base. I hope you like Rubio or Daniels…
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:22am@Time2
“Let’s hear it SOY, LIBERTY, INDY, BRO, MUTINY….et al…”
I call it the JUSTICE LEAGUE
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Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:06pmSOY. Lol.
IMO yooz guys are more like the depressed robot Marvin… the Paranoid Android from the movie “A Hitchiker’s Guide To The Universe”.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:25pmlol
thats ok – you can be that gay green lantern thing
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:59pmI‘m offended I wasn’t included here :(
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Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:17pmMONKEYMAMA. You can be included in the Diseased Strain of Libertarianism’s Three Stooges group if you like? Murray Rothbard/Ron Paul/Lew Rockwell. You can be the group’s Shemp or Fat Joe.
As Rothbard is dead (thank God), you might fit in nicely…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:25pm@Time2, It’s either Hayek/Rothbard/Rockwell or Keynes who was a Fabian Socialist.
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Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:06pmI find it funny you Romney sheep ignore what is so bad about him. Yes I know your goal is to get rid of Obama but there is really no difference.
If we go bankrupt our lifestyles change dramatically.
If we go bankrupt our military comes home.
If we go bankrupt the the freedoms we have and the Constitution(whats left of it) are gone.
If we go bankrupt we will end up with a global government.
Romney and Obama plans both send us to bankruptcy. Why should I vote for either of them?
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:39pm@Time
Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul‘s fingernail clippings are smarter than you and I’ll bet Rothbard smells better. :)
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 4:40pm@3Monkeys, Wow! It is comical when you two exchange pleasantries.
@Time2, And you know it was funny too.
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Posted on June 23, 2012 at 6:30pmJUST. Hmmmmm, dunno‘ if it’s funny or not? First time I’ve been introduced to fingernail clipping humor. Waiting for the toenail clipping follow-up. Must be a Libertarian thing…. LOL.
That does bring up the topic of fungus though. There IS a fungus-among-“us” (the “us” being Conservatives)… and it‘s Ron Paul’s diseased strain of Libertarian ideology. As you JUST and MONKEYMOMMA are NOT Conservatives… you may NOT get that…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:42pm@Time2, Well, I’m not a progressive. I guess that by today’s standard definitions, I’m fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I’d vote for an orignalist Democrat over a progressive Republican any day. With me it’s all about preserving that Constitution and freedom. Your definition of conservative seems to hinge on social progressivism and are indifferent fiscally.
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Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:26pmJUST. I would classify you as pretty much Libertarian leaning. Libertarians… ‘We can do as we wish, vote how we want, love the left, hate the right, change gears as the winds blow… hell we can even sell ourselves as..,. TA DAAAA…. socially liberal, politically Conservative (fiscally at best). I always love that one!
Remember Lenin’s position… “Save the workers, Kill the government.” Libertarians are Socialists IMO. A true Conservative understands this… and this is why Reagan flushed the Libertarian moniker and adopted his own true persona (we call it Reagan-Republican/Conservative). Capitalism works, limited government is crucial, lower taxes are mandatory, and a strong, prosperous and free America must be the shining example for the world.
Report Post »Deibido
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:19amRyan is and has been my first choice. Two smart people that get the lay-of-the-land and the ability to pull us back from the brink. Oh rememberthat was OBAMA’S job, he has failed. Back to Chicago with the rest of the socialists and entitlement mentalities.
What a weak and sad President Obama has been. Hillary has two more ****** than OBAMA! Damn.
Report Post »Trep
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:19amNow we’re cooking with peanut oil!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:49amI could swear that we already did that back in ‘76!
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:46pmPhil, is that you?
Quack!
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:17amI doubt Ryan is s drunk like Joe though.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:45pmIs he drunk? Thank God. I actually thought he was just really really stupid.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:11amAnd just imagine……… Paul Ryan debating that imbecile, Biden. Wow, would that ever be a hoot!
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:10amGreat idea. Paul Ryan would get out every conservative who might otherwise stay home and not vote at all. As much as Rubio might be helpful in bringing in some Latino votes, his shelf life has hit a limit. How about grabbing hold of Allen West. He’d REALLY SHAKE THINGS UP!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:09amSuzanne Martinez….
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:04amPaul Ryan would be a good choice I believe. He is smart and seems honest, and is concerned about our deficit. Being from Wisconsin how can we lose?
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:03amPaul Ryan, my first choice…..followed closely by Tim Pawlenty. Solid campaigners and budget guys.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:21amYou just lost ALL credibility with that Tim Pawlenty comment. Solid campaigner? Isnt Tim Pawlenty is the guy who criticized Romneycare in the media and was too chicken to take responsibility in the debates?
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:50pmSOYBOMB315: He’s a two-time governor with experience campaigning. He wasn‘t going to let a CNN’s John King bait him into attacking another Republican. I found it admirable.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 6:23pmYou cant call someone out and then hide during the national debate. You can twist it all you like – but it was reeked of cowardice
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