Report: Ron Paul Signed Off on Incendiary Material in Newsletters
- Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:22pm by
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Rep. Ron Paul was aware of the offensive material published in his newsletters, proofreading articles beforehand, former aides told the Washington Post in a report published Friday.
The new allegations could reignite Paul’s newsletter controversy, which made headlines in December. The presidential candidate came under fire last month for racial and other incendiary statements mailed out under his name in the late 1980s and 1990s. Paul has repeatedly denied writing the statements, disavowing them and saying he wasn’t aware of their existence until 10 years after the fact.
But several of Paul’s former associates are disputing his account, telling the Post he was heavily involved with the newsletters:
[P]eople close to Paul’s operations said he was deeply involved in the company that produced the newsletters, Ron Paul & Associates, and closely monitored its operations, signing off on articles and speaking to staff members virtually every day.
“It was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product. . . . He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter of the Texas congressman.
Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton denied the claims, saying any account of the Texas congressman’s involvement is untrue. Paul was practicing medicine full time when “the offensive material appeared under his name,” Benton told the Post, adding Paul “abhors it, rejects it and has taken responsibility for it as he should have better policed the work being done under his masthead.”
The Post also reported, based on an anonymous source, that Paul and his associates decided in the late 1980s to try to increase sales with a “more provocative” strategy, including racial statements.
“It was playing on a growing racial tension, economic tension, fear of government,’’ the person said. “I’m not saying Ron believed this stuff. It was good copy. Ron Paul is a shrewd businessman.’’
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hauschild
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:19pmThe country‘s in collapse and we’re supposed to give two @#$! about this?
Yawn.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:26pmI’d still vote for him over our turd in chief…. No doubt about it !
Report Post »Spyder
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:35pmSo after this issue came out 2 election cycles ago in 2004, then again in 2008, now were supposed to believe that this detail was somehow magically missed. Troll Harder, Media! That’s a fail.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:44pmI would still vote for any of the four candidates running against Obama. ANYONE BUT OBAMA. By the way..before the lefties here get all pious on us I’d like to remind them that the DOJ under Obama and Holder is the most racially charged in decades.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:46pmAt the MLK debate, when the FOX debate team tried comparing Newt‘s unfaithful trysts to President Clinton’s behavior with Lewinsky at the same time he was pushing for impeachment, Newt correctly pointed out he had never perjured himself. Clinton was impeached for lying.
Ron Paul stood by listening and nodding. Guess he believes your word is your bond.
TEA
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:50pmMeet Madeleine
She describes herself as being hyper-aware of politics and current events, even pre-empting headlines on illegal immigration when she brought the issue up in school, which is 70 percent Latino, well before last year’s rallies.
Morgenstern is dedicated to understanding and talking about the issues, and not only in the political realm. She has been a religious school teaching assistant and tutor at Temple Judea in Tarzana since the eighth grade.
“There are certain prayers that I love, and when I‘m tutoring a kid and she’s able to read through the prayer and say it, I think, ‘Yeah, this is what I’m doing here,’” she said.
That has also translated over to the Jewish Student Union, a lunchtime Jewish club, of which she is president. The club offers free lunch and discussion of a Judaic topic. While an adviser teaches many of them, sometimes Morgenstern steps in herself to lead the group.
She plans to keep teaching in college, and has already contacted a synagogue in Washington — one that will keep her nice and close to Pennsylvania Avenue.
http://www.jewishjournal.com/education/page2/a_notsorandom_sampling_of_the_class_of_2007_20070608/
I‘m sure she’s not too happy about RP wanting to cut off foreign aid to ALL countries including Israel. Too bad she‘s too stupid to realize that the US gives TWICE as much money to Israel’s enemies.
Report Post »She’s a pathetic “Israel firster” hit piece hack, who is once again showing her true colors. AIPAC
Jefferson
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:50pmMeet Madeleine
She describes herself as being hyper-aware of politics and current events, even pre-empting headlines on illegal immigration when she brought the issue up in school, which is 70 percent Latino, well before last year’s rallies.
Morgenstern is dedicated to understanding and talking about the issues, and not only in the political realm. She has been a religious school teaching assistant and tutor at Temple Judea in Tarzana since the eighth grade.
“There are certain prayers that I love, and when I‘m tutoring a kid and she’s able to read through the prayer and say it, I think, ‘Yeah, this is what I’m doing here,’” she said.
That has also translated over to the Jewish Student Union, a lunchtime Jewish club, of which she is president. The club offers free lunch and discussion of a Judaic topic. While an adviser teaches many of them, sometimes Morgenstern steps in herself to lead the group.
She plans to keep teaching in college, and has already contacted a synagogue in Washington — one that will keep her nice and close to Pennsylvania Avenue.
http://www.jewishjournal.com/education/page2/a_notsorandom_sampling_of_the_class_of_2007_20070608/
I‘m sure she’s not too happy about RP wanting to cut off foreign aid to ALL countries including Israel. Too bad she‘s too stupid to realize that the US gives TWICE as much money to Israel’s enemies.
Report Post »She’s a pathetic “Israel firster” hit piece hack, who is once again showing her true colors. AIPAC
islamhater
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:12pmSo people won’t vote for Ron Paul cause of his foreign policy. He want’s us to mind our own damn business. What’s rong with that? Look at what Obama and every other president has done.Compared to Obama you think Ron Paul is crazy? Hell compare his to anyone elses. I think America could use a break from the world myself. We should be more focused on the constitution. Remember allies will get you into war’s you would not get into in the first place. I support Isreal but choose’ing a president on the defence of Isreal is not American. Don‘t give me that crap you’ve heard on T.V. either. Isreal can defend themselves quite well.
Report Post »MonkeyBeagle
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:29pmThis the media wont let go… Just like the MSM, whey they got nothin else just keep chanting RACIST! RACIST! I for one am a little tired of being called RACIST, the word means nothing to me now. And when the MSM calls someone RACIST its becoming a badge of HONOR because it means they have nothing else.
They are trying to shut down conversation. NOT GOING TO WORK NO MORE!!!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:33pmJefferson: So you’re saying that Ms. Morgenstern may have a dog in this race which could be influencing her journalism? I wonder if there was anyone in the Media and in the FDR administration which may have had a dog in the race back in the late 1930s? You don’t think they could have possibly used their Journalism skills in order to promote their desire for us to enter WW2 do you?
You know they say that the American people and I might add the very wise American people were very much oppose to entering both WW1 and WW2 but had to be coerced and deceived into entering by the Media and the FDR administration… Sort of like the way the Media today attempts to deceive the American people into shunning Dr. Paul..
I think I’m starting to see a pattern Jefferson! It’s all about a certain groups interest and whether or not they have a dog in the race…
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:45pmSantorum is the only one to get big-government out of our lives… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU&feature=youtu.be Santorum 2012!!!
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:48pmSantorum is a true Tea-Party patriot… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TVoVqvt74 You won’t find this on THEBLAZE
Report Post »fidel1234
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:54pmThe old establishment is starting to get scared of Ron Paul,you know he will have influence no matter the outcome,he has woke up a lot of people and we always got his son.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:37pmF you Beck. You lying, hypocritical, pos. F you and f Santorum, that war-mongering, blood-lusting, crusading, idol-worshipping, neo-con. I would vote for Biden before I voted for Santorum.
You haven’t figured it out yet have you? If the gop does not nominate Paul, they will not get his supporters votes. Obama gets in. Hey Beck, WE surround YOU.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:45pmRabble rabble rabble!!!
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:50pm@shylow
You are such a mindless sycophant. Santorum’s number one contributor is Blue Cross Blue Shield.
How Rick Santorum Ripped Off American Veterans:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/how-rick-santorum-ripped-off-american-military-veterans
SANTORUM: CONSERVATIVE TECHNOCRAT
http:/www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/01/04/santorum-conservative-technocrat/
Stunning! Judge Nap and guest stunned by Santorum remarks
http://www.dailypaul.com/200336/stunning-judge-nap-and-guest-stunned-by-santorum-remark
Santorum calls for long war to erradicate islam
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=41085
P.s. On guns, Paul gets the A+ and Santorum a B-(something he lied about in Iowa)
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:23pm@DTOM……Shylow is a fellow liberty lovin’ Paul supporter.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:44pmMy apologies then to Shylow. I did not click on the links because I am so sick of Beck blasting Paul and sucking up to Santorum. It’s a daily thing on his shows. Again, my apologies Shylow.
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:22pm@Shylow
Santorum is not Tea Party material, and he is not one to get big government out of our lives.
He voted for raising the debt ceiling, and he wants a consitutional amendment defining marriage. (Irregardless of where you stand on the marriage issue) you cannot get much more anti Tea party and Pro big government than that.
But, because I’m sure people have not yet realized why defining marriage nationally is a terrible idea, I’ll just share my thoughts.
1) If you grant government the authority to define what marriage is, despite defining it in a desireable way at one time, there is nothing to stop the same government from turning around and re-defining marriage into something completely different.
For example, let’s suppose Santorum gets his way, and there is a Constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman. Congratulations, now the precedent has been set, and Liberals will now spend the next century fighting against that amendment and perverting it into something like, “marriage is between any number of people or animals you want.”
The same can be said for abortion, keep the important things as close to the local level as possible, and only allow the federal government to handle very precise and limited functions.
And its for these reasons that ONLY Ron Paul is a tea party candidate.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:52pmWell that’s it! I’m convinced now by the corrupt media that Dr. Paul maybe signed off on some newsletter that he didn‘t write and really didn’t even contain anything bad at all. It is just another step to force you to believe and compromise your vote for their pre paid for pre chosen candidates like Gettinrich or Romney the flipflop RINO. By listening to the media you would think they are already the next President of the US. The reality is that not even about 1% of the delegates have been chosen to decide the Republican candidate, keep supporting Dr. Paul till the end. Don‘t give up because the corrupt establishment wants you to believe just because of the SC primary that suddenly it’s all over and the rest of the US doesn’t count! Dr. Paul is the only one that will fight to turn this country around. Don’t compromise for another big government liar who will continue to lead us down the path of destruction.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:41amI’m amazed that the Paul bashers on here continue with their agenda of calling not only Paul but his supporters names continually. I would make a bet the name-calling is 4-1. Paul is getting between 15-25% of the primary votes, and is leading with independents and the 18-35 age group. At this point I could care less about the Republicans or the Democrats, they are both selling us down the river financially, and want to continue the status quo- telling us it will be worse with any real meaningful changes. So to those who want to insult and ridicule Paul and his supporters, most of us are standing for Liberty and our Constitution or bust. You can have the food-stamp president for another four years because of your hatred and ignorance. Most of us will write Dr. Paul in regardless, and I don’t care if you call us crazy or unloyal. I could give a crap about loyalty to the Republican establishment, I care about my civil liberties, freedom and maintaining a semblance of a free society, and want the government out of my life. The remainder of the stooges running deserve no respect as they continually undermine us with the NDAA, war propaganda and every other anti-freedom regulation all in the name of safety and pseudo-patriotism. If that’s the way this is going to play, enjoy your turd sandwich and enjoy the Obummer. Maybe you’ll have a car or the shirt on your back left by 2016. Peace, Freedom, Prosperity, Not war, welfare and bankruptcy. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »calisun
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:51amIm not even going to read this garbage. The Blaze obviously does not like Ron Paul.
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 2:14amWhen you go after the criminal enterprise known as the US government, you are going to get some stinky stuff on ya.
Report Post »deac0n
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 4:06amall I know is ! ron paul is the only true conservative running check this out
http://voteview.com/Is_John_Kerry_A_Liberal.htm
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 8:16amI swear. People better to learn to recognize a PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN when they see one. Ron Paul is not. Every candidate except Ron Paul think the antiPatriot Act is a good idea, along with Republicans such as Marco Rubio and Allen West. Voters — the Patriot Act Republicans ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!
Right now, the same folks that brought you the so-called “Patriot” Act, indefinite detention of American citizens, and an unaccountable TSA and an invasive Department of Homeland Security are preparing to wage war on your freedom online.
The government is fully prepared to take unprecedented power over the internet unless you and I stop them today.
Two bills – SOPA (HR 3261) in the House and Protect IP (S 968) in the Senate – are being pushed by the Big Government leadership of both houses. Action on one or both bills could happen any day.
What is the government trying to do? Gain a foothold in the last truly free place on earth – the internet.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 8:20amWhat two-faced people I see. When Mr. Cain was in trouble, the cry was, “I don’t care. He’s a good Christian.”
When Gingrich’s past is brought up, the response is, “That doesn’t matter. It was in the past. He’s converted to Catholicism since then.”
When Santorum’s wife living with a doctor who started the first abortion clinic in town, the response is, “That has nothing to do with Santorum.”
When Ron Paul says he didn’t write racist words (and has NEVER done or said anything racist) its rehashed over and over and over and over and over and over and over…………..to slander an honest man.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 11:07amRacist words written on a rock at Rick Perry’s camp — In the news one cycle and forgotten.
The truth is, the words in Ron Paul’s “racist newsletters” weren’t any worse than what other candidates have spoken — the difference is, Ron Paul said they were NOT HIS WORDS.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 11:33amRon Paul’s compassion for an inter-racial couple in the 1970′s video:
Honesty and Compassion http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-washington-dc/checkmate-video
The latest CNN/ORC poll released Tuesday finds that Congressman Paul scores highest amongst minorities when matched up against Barack Obama in a hypothetical election head to head.
Paul scores 25% of the vote amongst non-whites, whereas Romney polls at 20% and Gingrich gets 15%.
Ron Paul is clearly the most popular GOP contender amongst non-whites out of the entire field, suggesting that the “racist” smear, which was heavily pushed back in 2008, has had very little impact whatsoever on the views of those who presumably would be the most likely to be offended by it.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/12/20/rel20c.pdf
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:38pmAlright, everyone needs to read “The Disappearing White Majority” article. I’ll reproduce it, here.
I will admit that this one is slightly racist; but only in that the writer conflates – as do a lot of people in “minority” groups – certain types of music, attire, etc., with the skin color of those who adopt certain race-based cultural identities.
He sees these peripheral issues as a means to advance the agendas of those who choose to identify themselves by the color of their own skin – as do the advancers of these agendas, themselves -, and so he mistakenly opposes the peripheral issues.
It should be noted that Bertha Lewis of ACORN infamy did the same thing when she conflated a growing “minority” presense in America with growing support for “minority” issues (whatever that means)- as if the two were necessarily related.
See here.
ACORN’s Bertha Lewis Makes Socialist Case for Open Immigration
http://www.breitbart.tv/acorns-bertha-lewis-makes-socialist-case-for-open-immigration/
“”We’re getting ready to me a majority, minority country. Shhhh. [applause] We’ll be like South Africa. More black people than white people. [laughter] Don’t tell anybody.”"
I’ll say what I said at the time this got more attention: “Yawn.” Who cares what color you are, so long as you’re not a collectivist.
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:43pm(Continued from prior post)
The writer’s main goal, though, is to combat collectivism, as evidenced by the emphasized text (emphasis mine).
See here.
TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98883/ron-paul-incendiary-newsletters-exclusive
(January 1993 issue of the Survival Report
http://www.tnr.com/sites/default/files/January1993.pdf )
“The Disappearing White Majority
“”Census: White Majority To Shrink in Next 60 years” ran the headline in the Washington Times. The Census Department has suddenly changed its predictions. Consider the new data. Whites now account for 75% of the population, but if current immigration and birth rates continue, whites will total just 53% by the year 2050. As whites are dying off, they are not replacing themselves. Meanwhile, Asian immigration is taking off and black births are booming. The black population, now about 32 million, will double in the next 60 years. And the Hispanic population will triple.
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:47pm(Continued from prior post)
“I know it is considered impolite to worry about this trend. WE ARE ALL THE SAME UNDER THE SKIN, THE ARGUMENT GOES. WHATEVER THE TRUTH OF THAT ASSERTION, it is an empirical fact that, in a mixed-economy democracy, nearly every racial and ethnic group votes its group interest except the white population. WHITES DON’T VOTE FOR CANDIDATES THAT PROMISE TO PROMOTE WHITE INTERESTS, whereas blacks and Hispanics do.
“Groups other than whites have strong ethnic and racial identities. They are devoted to using the State to advance their cause. That, inevitably, means more welfare, more affirmative action, more grants of privilege, etc. That demographic shifts have profound political implications should go without saying.
“What is often forgotten is how such changes affect our culture. Nearly every other group but whites are allowed a certain degree of cultural autonomy. Blacks have black schools, clubs, and neighborhoods. The same is true of Hispanics. It is human nature that like attract likes. But whites are not allowed to express this same human impulse. Except in a de facto sense, there can be no white schools, white clubs, or white neighborhoods. The political system demands white integration, while allowing black segregation.
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 10:51pm(Continued from prior post)
“The youth culture is already driven by ghetto music and ghetto values. Just look at the clothing young people wear today (baggy jeans, backwards hats, high-top sneakers) and the music they listen to (which has a thumping beat once heard only on safari). And the sexual ethics of our youth are also degenerating to the level of the ghetto.
“Is there any way to stop the trend? No politician of any major party is going to speak out on these themes (anthough the one who does would do quite well). But there is a way to save your own children. Every home should be dedicated to Western standards of religion, music, values, education, dress, and manners. We need a cultural remnant as much as a financial one.”
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:36amPaul 2012!
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:39amAll people need to realize is this: People will drink donkey semen and urine, just to be on Fear Factor.
Imagine what people would do to have the kind of influence and media spotlight of somebody on a show like The Factor!
People should also look up the Fox News Christmas card for this past Christmas. It shows what they think of their viewers.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:14pmWhy do the Paulies keep saying this was an anonymous attack on Paul? From the article:
It was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product. . . . He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter of the Texas congressman.
At least one source was mentioned by name Paulies, Renae Hathway.
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:21pmAs a manager in retail, I have a few people that report to me directly. If those people take action without me knowing about it, guess who is responsible, me. Anyone in charge of a group of people should be able to manage those people, and if one can’t manage writers of a newsletter, do we really want him to manage the government. I don’t think we do.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:27pmYes .. the Buck should stop here….. I can’t see how he knew what was in the other newsletters and not the ones in question… but the Paulies will never believe he did … . They are on the same level as those who worship Obama.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:28pmAlright!! ONE SOURCE! Well that is clearly enough to ruin his candidacy. I mean, ONE SOURCE! That is almost equivalent to… uh nothing.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:33pm@Shasta
Only an idiot would spend time about discrediting news articles from ages past, when the last of our liberties is being taken from us. No offense, but its really insignificant compared to what Ron Paul can do for us economically and in the areas of personal liberty.
And dont give me that Arab monster under the bed story, again.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:35pmShasta…10K if you can produce a video of Dr Paul sayimng anything racist…ANYTHING!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:41pm@msheeley
As an IT manager, I can tell when others are incapable of focusing on the trees, because of the forest. You, my dear, are one such person. You appear obsessed with newsletters these days, even as Rome ‘financially’ burns. I bet you are proud of your voting record over the past few presidencies, huh? Of course you are. Nice track record, dear. Now look where we are. And you want to be seen as credible this time? By mentioning your stewardship skills? Stick to Retail, dear — I really hope you meet your quota of snake oil sales this month!
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:54pm@BADDOGGY Not too many video’s were made back when RP was putting out racist and antisemitic newsletters. Include written or approved written articles and game on……though I sincerely doubt that BADDOGGY (anonomous) would produce the 10k. Just more ********* rhetoric.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:58pmStr8Blues:
Yeah so since there is no evidence then HE IS GUILTY
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:17pmPlenty of evidence. His newsletters produced by Ron Paul & Associates are easy to find. Don’t let the TRUTH get in the way of your support for RP. Personally, if a man puts his name on a publication for 10 years and lets his associates put things out that he was unaware of for 10 YEARS……He isn’t Presidential material. If he can’t control a newsletter writers (which I don’t believe for 1 second)……then he can’t run the most powerful nation on earth. I‘m just sayin’…………………
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:26pm@str8blues
Your comrades over at the Huff Po want to congratulate you on being their kind of race baiter!
Resorting to left wing smear tactics is just fine…as long as it fits your purpose, even if they go against everything the man has ever spoken publically, voted on, and personally wrote.
Pathetic.
Report Post »1836Crockett
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:37pm@MSHEELY
Dear thoughtful person,
Being a retail manager and running a physician’s practice that has the responsibility of many friends lives, health and well being at risk is just a little more time consuming and actually requires thinking about “work” (a different thing when you are a physician) after hours, as it were. I think Dr. Paul probably has had quite a few things on his plate in the past that you would have no idea how to handle. Please try reading the Hippocratic Oath and understanding that.
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:14pmSUZY – Some IT manager you must be when you can’t recognize that Ron Paul is all talk with no accomplishments. Do you pay your employees for talk or accomplishments?
Report Post »BADDOG – Still bragging about that $10k that you don’t have and would have to borrow from mommy?
Critical Thinker
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:22pmIt’s not anonymous, it’s actually Hersey, which does not equal empirical evidence. That’s why we “Paulies” have a problem with it.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:32pmHey monkey turd…I still have the 10K No one took it…I wonder why? Oh I know…No tape of him EVER doing anything racist. Plenty of him doing kind things to Black people though!!! So F you monkey man
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:42pmYou people do not get it. Romney, backed by Goldman Sachs, who also backs Obama (the elite), Gingrich, when he became speaker promised that no anti-second amendment legislation would pass throught the floor, but then two did and he voted FOR them. Santorum wants to go to war wtih EVERYBODY and believes profiling should be the norm for the U.S. Paul has not one racist bone in his body. Give me a break. The elite are so scared of him becoming POTUS that all they can try to do is call the Race Card. Aren’t all of you tired of the Race Card when we have pretty much eradicated racism? We will never completely get over racism if we continue to allow the Race Card to influence ourt decisions. Wake up before it is too late and we are completely under the thumb of the U.N.
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:41pmWow my first two posts are attacked, really did not expect that as I did think we were all basically on the same side. Believe it or not I believe Ron Paul is right on a lot of issues, and yes if it came down to it I would have no problem with President Paul. However, his foreign policy stance is a little short sighted in my eyes. I think my biggest problem is the attacks that come out of the wood work from Paul supporters when fellow conservatives/libertarians disagree with his policies.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:46pm@SPANKADAONKY Everytime I read one of your posts..I invision La Mont Hill yakkin it up on FAUX.. “Ron Paul has no accomplishments”.. Paul has steadfastly voted for our Constitutional rights..do you think the rest do? But according to you..we should be happy to have only schisters putting it to us on a regular basis..what brilliance!
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:47pm@Susan Harkins
I realize that retail management may not be President of the united states, nor is it on the same level as being a physician. Even though I have a little bit on my plate as well, Full time school and a full time job which works out to be about 80 hours a week on top of family duties, but disregarding regarding my example of people management. If one’s name is appears on the head of something, should that not be held to high standards? I am also curious, this is a sincere question, what about Paul being a 23 year career politician?
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:50pmSorry the last post was meant to be @1836CROCKETT
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:19pmMSheeley, You should research before you post like I have. Stop just listening to the medias take on this. Paul was interested in the financial newsletters which he read often. He allowed his name recognition to be used for these newsletters and was very busy being a doctor through this time. We are talking a very few articles out of many many articles that he did not write. He has said he takes responsibility for them and disavows what they say. He has done the honorable thing but people just want to try and use the Race Card and keep this country from ever getting out of racism completely. Not getting on you, just stating facts here.
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:46pmWestcoastpatriot, I realize that, and I did see him say that as well. My issue isn’t even really with his newsletters. I think it is sort of a non issue that is fun to discuss. My issue is his stance on Isreal. I just don’t understand this die hard allegiance for him. I know the country is in trouble but one man won’t fix it. We need congress to change as well. It is too complex and I don’t believe change can come from man, other than Jesus Christ himself, who changed me.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:58pmIt’s pretty sad how many people still believe the lies of the big government establishment candidates that are robbing the American people blind. Dr. Paul is the one candidate that will fight for their freedom, liberty, and fiscal sanity as a country but they turn it away over something as petty as a nonsense newsletter. I thought after 4 years of Comrade Bama the American people would never again put up with the establishment lies, I guess I thought wrong, although the battle is not over yet for the primaries it has just begun.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:16pm@Msheely, Just a couple of things to consider. When my wife was pregnant with our baby, the OBGYN that took care of her was always dead tired. I realized that working 9-5 6 days a week plus delivering babies at all hours of the night had to be fairly exhausting. Just consider that and try to be a little more understanding about the newsletters.
I’ll concede that RP might be a little shortsighted on foreign policy. But just a tad. I do believe he’d recognize it once privy to information that only the president can have. There has to be some sort of middle ground here and I believe RP would find it. Withdrawing everything may be dangerous, but there are bases, he highlights, that aren’t doing us any good. I’d like to see us out of Afghanistan, Germany and Korea too. We have come to grips with the fact we can’t afford it any longer. We’ll implode. Also countries we’re protecting would be forced to invest in their own defense, which we could capitalize on buy selling them their equipment. Heck if anything we should be playing Russia and China‘s game because they’re strategically outsmarting our dumb lawyer politicians. I’m sure we could knock a couple trillion of the top by selling Hong Kong and South Korea a few tactical nukes.
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:04am@Justangry
I do appreciate the work doctors, and nurses for that matter, they work long hard hours yes, and they do deserve credit.
I would like to start off with a thank you for not turning this into an angry debate, despite your user name, as we should be able to disagree and be civil. History shows us that many people did the same, and that is why we love this country so dearly. I agree we no longer need to be in Europe or Asia for that matter. Afghanistan is a mess and I agree we probably should have no business there any longer, it turns us into Nation builders. That being said, I believe completely exiting the middle east and ignoring it completely does us no good. We run the risk of isolationism, but more than that we lose sight of the Muslim extremism there. Iran is doing its best to achieve a Caliphate and Israel is a vulnerable country. If we are a Judeo Christian based country then we can not turn our backs on the Father’s Holy Land.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:32am@MsHeely, I’m an old sailor and have complete faith in our navy to keep them at bay while we fix our house. Heck one SSBN could pretty much take them all out in reality. One of the most dangerous spots I see currently is the Suez Canal with the latest turmoil in Egypt. Our ships are sitting ducks there, so I don’t really know what the solution would be. I trust our military, and think RP would make a wise choice after listening to them, Congress and his cabinet. Remember all the candidates are ideologues on foreign policy as it stands now. I like the one who’s willing to at least try peace and prosperity. Sadly, I don’t think we’ll get to the election without the conflict already underway.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 1:33amMSheeley, I know it is hard to understand Paul’s foriegn policy with all the misinformation out there. It is a part of his economic policy also. Watch this video, it is entertaining and gives his policy in a type of cliff notes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5aGgQXhXo&feature=related
He also would not be weak with Natl Defense. He just wants “We The People” to decide when we send our troops to face death in a war according to the Constitution. That is a concept I can agree with. I believe that we are going to be facing a future that is bleak. The world economy is going to fall. It is inevitable at this point. Some, in the establishment, are looking forward to this. A One World Economic Order. I believe this is our last chance to get someone who actually takes his oath to protect and defend the Constitution seriously. We need the troops here to defend us, not stuck all around the world without money to get them home. It is coming. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Report Post »I couold see a President that addresses the Nation saying, The whole world is in chaos and we have no choice but to join, with the Nations of the world, with the U.N. under this New Economic system that will put us all back to work. I can also see a President that will address the Nation saying, They want us to join this new system saying all will be great, but it comes at the price of throwing out the rule of law. I ask every American to stand and fight against this tyranical NWO and fight to keep liberty.
UrsaMajor
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 9:18amFace it Ron Paul supporters, there are ONLY two options to choose from…
A.) Ron Paul KNEW and APPROVED the racist garbage that was published in HIS news letter.
B.) Ron Paul was IGNORANT and CLUELESS about the racist garbage that was published in HIS newsletter.
I coose option B… he was IGNORANT and CLUELESS.
Grow a set and actually ANSWER insyead of making excues, Paul supporters. You either believe he responsible and in charge or incompetent.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 9:32amI agree with Sdarbro, Susan Hawkins, Baddoggy, Freedomluve, 1836crockett, Critical Thinker, West Coast Patriot and Kickillegalsout when they say that Ron Paul is NOT a racist.
I truly believe that he was ignorant and clueless about the racist bile vomtied onto the pages of HIS newsletter. I strongly believe that he cared so little about something that was sold to people using HIS name.
If that is the kind of person you want leading an entire NATION instead of a newsletter, then that says all we need to know about your “convictions”.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 9:59am@URSAMAJOR, This RP supporter chooses B. He was incompetent on a small percentage of newsletters written 30 years ago. I believe he, himself, said something similar to that when explaining them. Now, let me ask you this. You have a choice this time around to vote for…
A. Freedom
B. Tyranny
Which one will you be voting for?
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 11:05amIt was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product. . . . He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter of the Texas congressman.
Report Post »——————–
Know what …. means in text? Omission.
She could have spoken 10 paragraphs in between and the article omitted those words.
What did she REALLY say?
Hossua
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 3:04pmHe has repeatedly taken responsibility for them. What he denies is having written them.
If you don’t want to vote for him based on that, then fine. I, however, think this is a non-issue considering our other alternatives.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 3:59pm@UrsaMajor Paul has owned up, disavowed the comments, and apologized for not having more oversight. The only ones that keep beating this dead horse is the Marxist MSM. Those comments, which have been mostly overly exaggerated as “racist”, AFFECTED NO ONE, HURT NO ONE, INJURED NO ONE, AND ATTACKED NO ONE. Now, those anti-gun right laws passed by Gingrich did affect someone and attack law abiding Citizens. There are so many other more important things.
http://www.nationalgunrights.org/flip-flop-newt-still-not-coming-clean/
Report Post »http://www.nationalgunrights.org/rick-santorums-anti-gun-history/
Shane74
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:44amOne source says this. You people were willing to twist yourselves around into crazy contortions for all that was coming out against Herman Cain, with multiple, multiple sources.
Congrats, sheep!
Fox thinks you’re sheep too! Look at their Christmas card for this year!!!
http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/fox-news-skewers-rivals-in-holiday-card/
Look, Fox has more sheep than the rest! This is what they openly think about you.
Wake up!
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:11pmRon Paul supporters: Why can this man do no wrong in your eyes? I am amazed at the complete and utter blind following. It is the equivalent of puppy love teenagers experience with their first relationship.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:17pmQuestion: Ron Paul supporters: Why can this man do no wrong in your eyes?
Answer: Drug users who want them legalized.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:27pmMsheely: Can Paul ever do RIGHT by your standards?!?! What? because he put out a newsletter in the 80s that spoke about blacks and Hebrews he is not able to be president? even though his ideas are most logical and most constitutional? Because the decades between the newsletters and now disprove any racism or antisemitism?
can’t you see a hit job when it jumps in your face? Paul is neglected, skipped over, pictures of candidates never feature him, etc. C’mon, I know you are a bright person. Put the dots together.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:30pmRon Paul Supporters: why can this man do no wrong in your eyes?
Answer: Because he is the only one who makes any sense.
Ron Paul detractors: Why can this man do no right in your eyes?
Answer: Because he looks old on TV
Report Post »huh
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:37pmIt’s hippie love and there all high..HA!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:37pm@msheeley
Reverse question — why does Ron Paul scare you so much?
Its equivelant to a teenager who messes his drawers when he is told to get off the XBOX and go make a notable difference in the world. Pretty sad, msheeley. And I do love your track record of putting 5 RINOs in the WH so far….you are batting 0 for 5 and now you are trying for Romnoid or Newty? Pretty sad!
Report Post »bruce_baker
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:54pmQuestion: Ron Paul supporters: Why can this man do no wrong in your eyes?
Answer: Drug users who want them legalized, and non-users who see that laws against drugs don’t stop, or even slow down their use, but only make criminals and law enforcement richer and more powerful.
Also, he’s the only one who rejects sending our young men and women into harms way without the full backing a support of America in the form of a Congressional Declaration of War.
Also, he’s the only one who rejects the Fed and other moneychangers having a monopoly on our fiat money and making us all poorer, thereby.
Also, he‘s the only one who really strict about his rejection of the Federal government’s unconstitutional meddling in our education, family, labor relations, healthcare, property, religion and personal security; issues that should be handled at the State, local or personal level.
The Democrats and RINO Republicans want the Federal govenment to do everything for us.
Report Post »The Conservative Republicans and too many in the Tea Party want the Federal government to do too many things for us.
Dr. Paul and the Constitutionalists want the Federal government to do just what the Constitution says it should. No more, no less. Government impact on citizens should be at the local, or at most State level, where it is more directly under the control of the people. We’re supposed to be a republic, not a national, one-size-fits-all democracy.
martinez012577
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:59pmThis honestly doesnt matter. Ron Paul is the only candidate for real change.
No more overseas wars without declaration.
No more foreign aid.
No more attacks on our freedoms from our own government.
No more policeman of the world.
No more government spending sprees.
An end to the fed.
An end to the nanny state.
When other candidates can say these things and mean it will look at other candidates. Till then, Ron Paul 2012!!!!
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:01pm@SDARBRO Looks old? I Hate to pop you bubble…..but he IS OLD. He’s right now at the age of the age expectancy of a man in the US. A vote or Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Pauls’ VP……who I expect would be the weaker Dennis Kacinich. He’d be pushing 78 by the time he took office. He could not withstand the rigorous schedule a President has to keep. Doesn’t matter…..he would never get the nomination with his foreign policy record.
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:07pmThat is because he can’t do any wrong. Is that what you want me to say? There I said it are you happy now?
Report Post »fidel1234
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:58pmYou establishmentbots crack me up,how many more elections are going to go by till you figure out nothing will ever change as long as you keep voting these establishment candidates into office,I mean 15 trillion and counting,how much worse should it get?
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:18pmSimple answer is that Ron Paul is a certifiable FRAUD – all talk with no accomplishments but the Paulbutz just can’t see it or accept it. What a guy.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:55pmI’m a decorated prior active duty Army with the 101st Airborne Division, infantry with two combat tours in Afghanistan on my belt. I am now separated with a great paying job and pay my taxes. I don’t do drugs. Who are you to generalize Ron Paul supporters? I couldn’t care less about legalizing drugs, I want to legalize FREEDOM. That freedom just so happens to include the ability for anyone to put whatever substance they deem necessary into their body. It’s their body, who are you to tell them what they can or can’t put in it? With that precedent set, what’s the different if the Government determines that certain food is bad for you and bans you from putting them into YOUR body. What’s the difference other than you disagree? Well, I disagree with THIS as well as with them telling us what we can or can’t eat.
Freedom is what we care about. I don’t care what you do at home in your spare time.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:22pm101st is no joke.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:52pmStr8, Paul challenged all the others to a 25 mile bicycle race, and he would win. I bet he is in better shape than any of them. Gingrich looks more prone to a heart attack than Paul. You are a bigot. Age discrimination is a form of bigotry. I bet Paul is in better shape than you. As for the drug thing, all of you are terrible researchers and listen to the media. He is not for legalization and is in fact against drug use. How is it you people survive day to day? You get everythiong wrong and spew out lies like it is nothing. All of you should be ashamed of yourselves and your families are suffering from your ignorance.
Report Post »msheeley
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:53pmI think what happened is that all of the Obama supporters just spun a 180 and are not supporting Ron Paul because it seems they have the same anger.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:33pmI think the question should be turned around. Why does everything little thing about Ron Paul get turned into some fanatic Anti Paul rant, yet the establishment candidates like Gettinrich with his Fannie money adulterous life, Romney the flipflop RINO with his Romneycare, big money stashed in the Caymen islands, and is a global warming flip flopper, Sanotorum who supported anti 2nd amendment legislation and is a fake conservative. But no, none of these issues are as important as the scandal of the decade with Dr. Paul‘s newsletter right he didn’t even write? What nonsense.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:51pm@bruce_baker Great post. I believe in a Constitutional Republic and our Federalist Union.
Folks should look up how Mexico went from a Federation of States similar to our Nation, to a centralized, militarily dictated, national Government. It’s happening right here in the US, right now. Those who don’t learn history, will repeat it.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 8:12am@msshelly or whatever your name was
This is why I watch Beck still. A man for which I have lost so much respect. It’s obvious you are just spitting out his bile. Like it or not our wars are illegal(undeclared), our 900+ bases are wasteful and foreign aid is tax payer theft and redistribution of wealth. Charity comes from individuals not goverment. What you and Beck want is illegal. To sum up Paul’s position accurately, we should have no illegal wars, an insanely strong defense, and if we do go to war through congressional declaration, crush the enemy and come home. No nation building.
To show you how weak-minded you are: do you really think the Jewish Messiah you referred to was named “jesus”? Think for yourself. Stop worshipping Beck and Rome’s image of the beast. Yeshua is the Name and teaching you want to follow.
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:46amQuestion: What does Fox have to say about their viewers?
Answer: http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/fox-news-skewers-rivals-in-holiday-card/
You’re all sheep! Fox believes this! So you just keep trotting out what others tell you, and ignore the man behind the curtain.
Report Post »Land-That-I-Love
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:10pmYou Ron Paul fanboys keep insisting this is all from an anon source…..you find and read the entire article – it clearly says- “It was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product. . . . He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:32pmyeah, one source. That’s not exactly condemning evidence. Here is one candidate who makes sense and who seems to be 100% pro-constitution and because one lady says he ‘signed off’ on a newsletter that someone else claims is racist (have you read the newsletters?) then our only recourse is Gingrich?!?! C’mon. It’s a hit job
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:35pmWhat about his actions since the 1980s (before Internet or cell phones or cable TV – LONG AGO)? Do they betray a racist man?
Or does that not matter. If you are looking for a smoking gun to disqualify Paul then you are clearly ‘settling’ with this weak issue.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:46pm@Land.
Like I said…only an idiot would obsess with an article about antique news letters when Rome burns.
Nice voting record you have — look out the window at the firelight on the horizon. It was caused by idiots like yourself.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:59pmI just love watching the Republican party of LOSERS vilify one of their sides presidential hopefuls as a racist. The “TEAM PLAYERS” The Democraps are going to rock your world come election day. Obama will be the president for another 4 years. The only candidate who truly wants America to regain its constitutional freedom is Ron Paul. That is obvious. He wants to go back to the America that was, and the media definitely does not. What candidates are being held up in the spotlight as true Americans who will make this a better country??? Mitt Romney (BIG GOVERNMENT) & Newt Gingrich (BIG GOVERNMENT). Not Ron Paul though; HE’S A RACIST.
Makes me wonder if you people have ever formed a single simple thought on your very own. But don’t do that lol. Turn on the media. They’ll tell you who to vote for, and you can pretend you made the decision all by yourself. Just like a big boy/girl.
Ahem, SHEEP!!!
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:10pmAnd you support who?
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:00pmDoes it really matter?
I’m an Agnostic. Yet I will vote for this man because I believe he won’t put my freedom and liberties in jeopardy based on his personal beliefs. Note personal belief. Even if he is a racist at heart, and I am of Asian decent, I know that with his stance on individual freedoms and the Constitution, he will put those principles ahead of his personal beliefs.
Freedom. Principles. Integrity.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:58pmAny racist I have ever known, which is not that many, think that all of the race are subhuman. That is thinking in a collective manner. Paul thinks in individual liberties. He cannot be racist for this fact alone. He believes that each individual is responsible for showing whether they are of good character or not. How can you be racist when you think in this manner? Tell me……, you cannot.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 9:34am@WELDMAN7
I support Ron Paul…
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:10pmGood ole Ron; told ya those ‘newsletters’ were a take-down. He may get a chance for a position when Santorum or Newt win, but never the prez. He spoiled that long ago.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:17pmPut him in as Sec. of Treasury, or maybe VP, to pick up the independent vote.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:37pmafter seeing all the crackpot stuff he’s written, perhaps a spot over at NASA where he could look for aliens
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:48pmBigspike…I doubt you have read any of it…I KNOW you havent read any of it. You just heard about it. Be honest man. .
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:07pm@BIGSPIKE
When I consider that the only reason you created this blaze account was to vilify Ron Paul; It doesn’t bother me that much. Its obvious that you just created this account 2 weeks ago. So let me be the first to inform you that your words are useless trash.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:10pmTron, you are just a golden oldies radio host that doesn’t know his head from his a$$. I have seen the list of guests you have had like all your Fox News friends. You do not impress me in the least.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:42pm@Bigspike, I seriously doubt you’ve seen ANYTHING that RP has written, let alone the newsletters.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:08pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~RON PAUL 2012~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RON knows a secret. He can’t you (yet) that YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GOVERNMENT and LAND were Pledged as Collateral to a Private Bank for the Default of a Loan.
Ron’s Brother, WAYNE can tell you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:40pmtinfoil hat much?
Report Post »Spyder
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:04pm@Bigspike
Report Post »Zombie much?
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:30pmBig Spike is a desperate government shill. lol.
Games up.
The truth is spreading like wildfire.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:15pmProblemsolver, I agree. I have woke up so many here it is unbelievable to me. I have even turned many Obama supporters and many Dems along the way. Paul is the only one that can beat Obama in a landslide. It is too bad that Beck, who was doing a good job at waking people up, has become so blind himself over a bigoted philosophy.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:08pmthank god the blaze has finely posted another hit piece filled with unsubstantiated rumors from disgruntled Ron Paul staffers.. i was thinking the blaze had gone soft…
any YES this was the one article that put me over the edge…. i am WITH you now… screw the constitution, expand government, bomb anybody that looks at us sideways…. i will vote for anybody who claims to be conservative, no matter what their record… as long as they aren’t obama…
ANYBODY BUT OBAMA..WAR IS PEACE.. SPENDING IS GETTING US OUT OF DEBT.. NEOCON OR NOTHING 2012
[/sarc]
NO RINOS… NO LESSER OF TWO EVILS 2012
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:17pmI don’t know who programmed you Paulies with this “lesser of two evils” thing that you all like to spout but it’s one of the goofiest things you could say in this situation. Somebody WILL BE in that white house when this is all over. If you consider them all evil, then you will get either the lesser or the greater of the two evils.
Now, when you say you wont choose the lesser of two evils, what you are saying is that you will choose the greater of two evils. Pretty goofy!!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:26pm@qpwillie
Only a sell-out and a coward would see things from your perspective. You must really be proud of your voting record! I bet you would be equally accomplished in your fighting record.
Personally, I wouldnt want you anywhere around my family during the dark days ahead. YOU, I could never trust, since your values are compromisable, if only in degrees.
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:28pmQpwillie- we don’t say that, you “anybody but Obama” types are the lesser of two evils crowd. Can you read?
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:29pm@Susan Harkins
So you think there might not be anybody living in the white house in 2013? Wow!!!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:35pm@thriceconcussed
That means that you consider 0bama the lesser of two evils.
If you write in Ron Paul or vote third party, you will be voting for 0bama.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:36pmwould you prefer to be roasted over a low flame for a longer period of time, or cooked quickly over a hot fire?
either way you are cooked… vote progressive right or progressive left, either way you are cooked…
to me the republican brand still has some microscopic glimmer of true constitutional values.. if liberty, the constitution and the things the US stands for are going to be burned down, i would rather see it happen under the dems who have no legitimate American values, and let that force the republicans to clean house, if we let the republicans destroy the country then there is no American values political party left at all…
PS not a paulie…. i didn’t start out supporting him, i am a convert who sees no better choice..
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:39pmQPWILLIE:
The LESSER OF TWO EVILS is what you Paul-haters are settling on: Romney or Gingrich. Both are shrewd and dishonest. Paul has just been Paul.
Your clever word play is cute. Maybe you will teach grammar when you grow up.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:43pm@qpwillie
No dear…I dont think there will be anyone living in YOUR house in 2013.
Have a nice day and run away, dear. You are good at that.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:47pmqp i think the above posters have it right its you guys that are seeing it backwards..
if everybody in the country votes their principals… and we still get evil, then we get what we deserve (we voted for it)
if everybody votes the lesser of two evils you guarantee we get evil (and show that we damn well do deserve it)
but if everybody votes their principals.. then maybe, just maybe, we restore the country to what it’s supposed to be… and get the constitutional Representative republic that we are supposed to have
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:47pm@sdarbro
So, everybody who doesn’t agree with you goofy Paulie cultists is a Paul-hater? I guess that makes you a anybody-who-is-not-Ron-Paul-hater.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:51pm@Susan Harkins
Report Post »LOL! You’re not known for your ability to have rational thoughts, are you?
tmbell87
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:01pmLook qpwillie,
Report Post »Have you ever noticed the Paul supporters spend more time promoting their man rather than attacking the others? We don‘t We call you a Paul hater because you aren’t attacking his economic/monetary/foreign policy but his character. If you attack him on his consistent and overt stances, then we can have a discussion. But instead you rely on personal attacks and character judgements on the basis of one “witness”. I’m looking at actual substance like voting record and history. Let me tell you, the last 20 years of voting records and overt political stances speaks volumes more than these newsletters.
Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:05pm@qpwillie
Being in IT, I get paid to “rationalize” my dear. And, as demonstrated, my ‘wit’ is quite a bit sharper than your pathetic attempt to reason. Nice try. Now go vote for another “lesser of two evils” my dear — you cowards are good at “partly laying down” (or standing up).
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:05pm@qpwillie
So, given the choice between Mao and Mussolini, which one would you chose? The only moral answer is none of the above…correct?
The only candidate who is even talking about our out of control Police state is Ron Paul, so if he loses and you find yourself standing in line to watch your kids play a ball game, and the DHS pulls you out of line for a nice little strip search with ZERO probable cause…just remember that YOU VOTED FOT IT.
You are being asked to rivet the chains of your own enslavement, and you gleefully go to your garage to get out your hammer and anvil.
Enjoy your chains.
Ron Paul 2012…or bend over for the RINO’s NWO Patriot Act.
Report Post »JustJerry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:07pm@qpwillie
Ron Paul is really against spending in Washington. Really against it, no doubt 100% against spending, he will not sign any bills that increase spending.
Newt, Romney, and Santorium, Can you say without any doubts that they are 100% against spending? Can you say they will never sign a tax increase? Not only can I say that about my candidate I actually believe it. Do you?
Ending the war on drugs is just a bonus. Imagine a country so free that an adult who owns their own property can sit in their living room and enjoy some pot without a threat of violence from a government. Conservatives should find this money saving, government shrinking idea attractive.
Freedom and justice, for some.
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:08pmtypo-sorry.
Report Post »I was just going to add that the attacks against the other candidates are based on substance. Although I cannot speak for all Ron Paul supporters. There are the random few that make it personal.
qpwillie
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:23pm@tmbell87
You can’t be serious!! You should see my collection of Paulie comments from forums around the internet. 99% of what they do is attack and trash all the other candidates.
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:26pmYou dopey Paulbots……..Alex Jones cult members. The only group that spouts the term Neocon which is right out of the teachings of Alex Jones who is just a fat sweaty guy with a microphone who searches the internet daily for conspiracies to latch onto…..of course after consulting with his close advisors…..former wrestling actor Jesse Ventura or the Winner Charlie Sheen. What a brain trust!
Report Post »Precisely the reason so many don’t take RP seriously is his association with conspiracies.
Reasonable free thinking people don’t jump on the lunacy bandwagon.
Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:35pm@str8blues
Enjoy your Patriot Act that spits on the 4th amendment.
Enjoy your beloved NDAA that allows Obama to send the military to your house and arrest you with no charges, no jury, no trial, and no release date that spits on the 6th amendment
Enjoy your beloved TSA and Big Sis’s DHS when you find yourself in line waiting to watch a football game as your children are pulled out of line right before your very eyes and strip searched with no probable cause.
Since Ron Paul is the only candidate who is warning you about the Police State you worship…be sure to thank Big Brother when he places the chains of your own enslavement around your neck.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:30pm@str8blues
You are certainly the poster child of useful idiots. If your “normalcy bias” was any greater, we would need to house it in the Smithsonian. You suffer from an exceptionally bad case of STUPID.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:34pm@American1st I really enjoyed your 4:08. I often feel the same way. the Blah zzzzz wants us to be the zombies Glenn warns about.
Report Post »Though I have to admit, if this is all someone can come up with, a hesaid/shesaid on 20 year old newsletters, for a guy with a 30 year political career, he must be one of the best politicians to have ever entered the swamp.
str8blues
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:28pm@Susan Harkins You’ve totally embraced the “lunacy bias”. Believing somehow that you can demonstrate your candidates qualities by calling people names used by the Alex Jones koolaid crowd, Rinos, neocons and warmongers yeda yeda yeda and on and on is going to bring them over to the all knowing all caring all Constitutional candidate. Well we’ve all got our own way of vetting our candidates and of course they are all evil except for Ron Paul……but since RP attracts worshipers such as yourself who don’t understand Civil Discourse but rather hate filled rants…..no thanks…..I’ll go with the EVIL RINO, the Youthful…..Rick Santorum/Rubio 2012
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:28pmStr8, You guys just keep spewing out lies. The first time the term neoconservative was used, 1952.
Report Post »Marriam Websters Dictionary:
neo·con·ser·va·tive noun \ˌnē-ō-kən-ˈsər-və-tiv\
Definition of NEOCONSERVATIVE
1: a former liberal espousing political conservatism
2: a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means
— neo·con·ser·va·tism \-və-ˌti-zəm\ noun
— neoconservative adjective
First Known Use of NEOCONSERVATIVE
1952
Stop keeping your head in the sand sir.
1836Crockett
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:53pm@BLAME FOR OBOMBA WINNING BECAUSE WE VOTED FOR DR PAUL and other dithering idiot BS. The “PaulBots” you refer to have tasted liberty and are hungry for more.
Assigning blame is a coward’s game. Facing reality and making hard choices is the hero’s game, no matter what the outcome. It is always better to retreat and live to fight another day – most of the time. I wonder what was going through Col. William B. Travis’ head when he drew that line in the sand at the Alamo that day. 186 men stepped over that line, many of them Mexicans. Do you think they blamed General Houston for not coming to their aid? I think they knew they would strike fear in the heart of Santa Anna and especially those that fought under him when the Mexican Army of 5,000 went up against a scraggly lot of rebels that refused to give up and just go along with f0cking tyranny by actually dying for liberty and taking as many with them as they could. Imagine if YOU had been one of Santa Anna’s foot soldiers in that battle and you knew what was happening and witnessed the fight of these people of liberty. Would you relish leaving San Antonio and looking for more just like them? Our country is now at that critical point – either win liberty or perish. Which candidate is for liberty you might ask. I say look at the record of what they’ve done. Talk is cheap, and one will go broke instantaneously believing what politicians SAY. It’s what they DO that matters.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:34pmGeez guys, all you have to do to make QPWILLY go away is ask him to defend the NDAA. Well, that pretty much makes most of the RP haters disappear to another thread.
Report Post »WEBWITHDEB
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 1:02pmStr8blues:
Is Rubio a natural-born citizen? Surely we have learned to vet these things out . . .
Report Post »Renthal
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:08pmThe media are a bunch of cowards.They will go after a white guy, but not lay a hand on the anointed one just because he’s half black. Even when all the work is done for them. I guess they don’t want to offend anyone.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:30pmPolitical Correctness is actually one of many tools used to tear down a society before tyranical takeover. This is only more of the same “writings on the wall”. Its really not about Obozo…find out who has the greatest influence over the media and you will find the masterminds behind the planned destruction of America — overseas banker oligarcs.
Report Post »Blazen420
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:02pmHe is leading on the Drudge Report poll so they had to go try and dig something up quick. It is disappointing how people in this country put politics before country. Even more sad is the dopes voting for the puppets will be the most unprepared when the Republic falls.
Report Post »beckfan101
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:08pmYou are 100% correct, my friend.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:12pmThis crap has been pulled on almost every candidate, yet I never heard the Paulies complaining about this bull until it happened to Paul. As far as I am concerned, it is a disgusting technique no matter who the candidate is.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:18pmBlazen, I second that!
You are 100% correct.
With all the garbage on these RINO establishment candidate plants like RomneyCare, Gingrinch, and Sanatorium, and the Republicrat base can only dwell on some antique anti-PC newsletters? WTF?
Sad bunch! Wait until the collapse, later this year. They will be running to their nanny-govt to save them from their short-sightedness. And their nanny Police State will be glad to help them — help them move into a FEMA camp.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:59pmAnd I thought the Blaze was going to join in on the RP media blackout Drudge was reporting the other day.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:06pmNaaaawwww, they just wait for stories that involve race baiting just like all good leftists do…..
It’s actually quite disgusting.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:37pmI just checked Drudge and they apparently didn’t deem this news worthy as of yet.
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:56pmHopefully sooner rather than later voters realize that there is no bigger threat to our freedom than our own government. The only candidate who would significantly cut the government and return to us our civil liberties is Ron Paul. Dangerous on Iran and foreign policy, Beck? Not as dangerous as all the other candidates are on monetary policy and spending. Our DEBT is our biggest national security threat. People, please listen, support Ron Paul. A vote for anyone else is a vote for more of the same. I’d hate to be sitting here 10 years from now, all of us reminiscing about that grandfatherly old man stuffed in the corner of the debate stage ringing the warning bell about the coming economic and societal crisis….the time for action is now. Let’s not live in regret years later.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:37pmYou are right. Paul is the only one to see all this coming and has been ringing that bell for thirty years. He is the smartest of all of the candidates, the most honest, the most patriotic. HeII, he is the best candidate we have and people just listen to the establishment. I just cannot believe that some do not understand.
Report Post »youMUSTstand
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:55pmRP supporters please keep your crazy rants for the Huffington Post. Most of you are so close minded it’s hard to tell the difference between you and the left wing extremists, it’s really disturbing. Wake up, Ronny is just another established politician trying to push his childhood day dreams down the throats of real people who care about this country and want to defend it. I will say Ron has some good ideas but for every good idea he has two terrible ones.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:58pmHope you enjoy Obama. Because a Neo-Con won’t be getting my vote. It’s that simple.
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:02pmYou’re an idiot. Take the disk out of your drive, android.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:04pmEeerrrr, left wingers believe in the government being involved in basically everything..and Ron Paul believes government should not be involved in anything that is not specifically justified within constitutional bounds, so your statement is beyond ridiculous.
Now let me guess, you don’t like his foreign policy? If that’s the case, would you be willing to admit that the RINO‘s stand is closer to Obama’s and the CFR, than the views of Jefferson, Adams, and Washingtons?
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
What does that tell you about just who is crazy?
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:11pmGrrrrr, TECH. You are unreasonable, pally.
Report Post »youMUSTstand
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:45pm@techengineer11 – “Neoconservatism is a variant of the political ideology of conservatism which combines features of traditional conservatism with political individualism and a qualified endorsement of free markets.” Ouch.
@thriceconcussed – weird.
@Freedomluver – I said it was hard to tell you apart because of your close mindedness not because of your ideology, so right there that tells me you have a hard time following things and that does explain a lot. And if you want to call Santorum a Rino that’s fine, at least I know he’s not suicidal when it comes to the middle east.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad quotes:
Report Post »“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,”
“The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world.”
“Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism? You should know that this slogan, this goal, can certainly be achieved. ”
“I want to tell them (western countries) just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime (in Israel) soon be wiped out.”
There are many more, but i‘m sure it’s our fault.
sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:05pmYOUMUSTSTAND
Yeah lets get another war going on. That is just what our economy needs. Weren’t you one of us who got suckered into Iraq back in the day? Weren’t you let down by the GOP with the McCain nomination?
We are in this together as Americans, friend, not as a globe. We need to stop trying to police every other nation that ‘acts weird’. When we are broke, do you think that Iran is gonna wait for us to get back on our feet?
We need to stop worrying about hypotheticals and focus on getting our house in order. Iran is gonna be nuclear. What can we do about it? have a land war with them?
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:21pm@youMUSTstand
You dodged this question…
Would you be willing to admit that the RINO‘s stand on foreign policy is closer to Obama’s and the CFR, than the views of Jefferson, Adams, and Washingtons?
Please…do tell, and then tell us just who the crazy one is.
Ron Paul 2012…or bend over for the RINO‘s DHS’s NWO.
Report Post »Critical Thinker
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:20pmHow do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:41pmTron, Grrr. I will vote for Paul if he is the nominee, has to run third party or I will vote for Johnson if he does not run third party. How do you like them apples? I will not vote for a progressive of any kind ever again in my life. I believe that 99% of Paul supporters believe the same. So you go vote for your progressive and do not complain if it does not go how you want it to go.
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:45pmNot news…..give me cold hard facts or go away
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:00pm“It was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product. . . . He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter of the Texas congressman.
I doubt Ron will ever say he knew… what’s the upside?
Report Post »Liberty-or-Death
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:45pmDid anyone actually read the newsletters? I don’t think that they are racist. Context is everything. Here is a link – http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98883/ron-paul-incendiary-newsletters-exclusive
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:48pmyeah i have read them… if saying a fact is racist, then whatever.. i guess we have to ignore facts so we don’t hurt anyones feelings…
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:50pmMyt father-in-law contributed to Paul in the late 80′s and I can say that I read some of the letters he received, then. I don’t remember them being racist, but they sounded pretty nutty, even to someone who was not involved in politics, at that time.
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:53pmEven if they were racist and written by RP himself, I wouldn’t care. You know why? Because his voting record says differently. The things he says regarding race and race issues when on the debate stage are so much more compassionate than the others. Just listen to his stance on the drug wars and capital punishment. He is the only one bringing this stuff up.
Report Post »So yes, while they have one source by name, I have a video library that spans the last 20 years that suggests nothing of the sort. A voting record that is impeccable. So even if RP was an overt racist, his record shows that he doesn’t vote based on it, but instead on the will and constraints of the constitution.
3monkeysmomma
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:43pmYep. Ron Paul had a good night at the debate last night, so we need to make sure we smear him with accounts from anonymous former aids today.
God knows we wouldn’t want the only guy with a viable plan for dealing with the debt crisis to do well.
Report Post »SheriS
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:52pmI find it interesting this is coming from his own people! Guess he didn’t treat them very well, which based on the way I’ve seen him treat the other candidates, it doesn’t surprise me. I’ve called him “the angry old man” because that is the way he presents himself. I saw previously someone called him racist, well I guess if he approved the “newsletters” he sure sounds like a racist! That is what you get when you don’t get all your dirt out before you decide to run for President!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:56pmHe didn’t have a good debate. He has not done very good in the past two or three debates eventhough he’s right on the issues and is the only Constitutional conservative in the race. He really needs to improve his communication skills. They just are not cutting it and they won’t cut it. It’s completely unacceptable to have ran for President at least two times and not be prepared to answer a damn immigration question. I like Dr. Paul and I definitely prefer him over all others but does anyone think that he has spent more than 30 minutes preparing for these debates? It’s just not acceptable. The message he has too important. Good grief we need his son!! Or anyone that can articulate the message!
As for the Blaze, Beck, Conservative talk radio shills, and the rest of the lamestream Media, they don’t ever bother mentioning Dr. Paul unless it is in negative or dark context. Let’s face it they are all crooked deceived and are shills for the Zionist.
Have you ever seen the Blaze attempt to spin just one story on Dr. Paul in a neutral manner? Just one damn story? Furthermore, I’ve never seen a negative story on Mitty Romney on the Blaze. Not ever!
I don‘t like Newt one bit but you’re blind if you don’t see the attempt of the Establishment to smear him in every venue.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:15pm@Techengineer11
Report Post »“Good grief we need his son!! Or anyone that can articulate the message!”
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THAT, I will agree with. I would vote for Rand in a NY minute. If his father was half as articulate, he would be higher in the polls. You’re right, Dr. Paul isn’t prepared and sounds kind of whiney.
Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:16pm@SheriS
What does it feel like to resort to the same old worn out tactic of race baiting that the left never grows tired of?
Talk about pathetic.
Read this…and then come back with your left wing smear tactics.
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:32pmTechengineer11 stated – “As for the Blaze, Beck, Conservative talk radio shills, and the rest of the lamestream Media, they don’t ever bother mentioning Dr. Paul unless it is in negative or dark context. Let’s face it they are all crooked deceived and are shills for the Zionist.”
Report Post »“Zionist” huh? There you go techy, thank you for proving our point about Paul supporters, the majority of you are a bunch of anti-semetic Jew haters.
sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:44pmBerbel7:
“There you go techy, thank you for proving our point about Paul supporters, the majority of you are a bunch of anti-semetic Jew haters”
There YOU go proving our point about Paul-haters that they generalize about the entire base because one supporter typed ZIONIST. Furthermore, you clumsily added anti-semitic to Jew haters so, therefore, all Paul-haters are redundant and repetitive and say the same thing twice.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:48pmRontard definition of “good night at the debate”…he DIDN’T run amock on the stage, flailing his arms like a demented spider monkey, shrieking, “PORK AND BEANS! THE BLACK HELICOPTERS ON A MOSSAD FALSE FLAG OPERATION ARE STEALING MY PAPER SLIPPERS!”
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:10pmBIGSPIKE
Hey that is a really good post! RONTARD. That is a cute lil‘ combination of Ron Paul and ’tard. You have a real future in word-smithery. Also, that was fun how you went all caps for the Paul quote. I really hate it when Ron Paul runs around the debate stage flailing his arms and shouting. That happens all the time.
Your mastery of language and your zeal for Harry Potter make you a very formidable political opponent. I best leave you alone.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:12pmWell sdarbro he isn‘t the only Paul supporter that I’ve seen using the term zionist, which is just a feeble attempt at hiding their real anti-semetic beliefs. I also noticed that you didn’t condemn him for saying such, so if you aren‘t a Jew hater and techengineer11 isn’t representative of the majority of paul supporters then why didn’t you speak up and say something to him? And as far as me being redundant I wanted to be as clear as possible to the fact of just what people like him are. Let me break it to you, I don‘t trust you and I don’t trust Ron Paul. I will never support someone who has even the slightest appearance of have anti-semetic beliefs or of being racist in any way.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:22pmBerbel73: “Zionist” huh? There you go techy, thank you for proving our point about Paul supporters, the majority of you are a bunch of anti-semetic Jew haters.
Zionist is one that promotes the interests of Israel above all else.
I’m an American. I put the US Constitution above all else and I’m sorry to inform FOX News, The Blaze and the rest of the lame stream Media I do not see a Jihadist under every bed. Furthermore, I think there would be a lot fewer Jihadist if the American and British armed forces weren’t over in Arabia slaughtering Arabs for the past 100 years.
Sorry Berbel. Israel’s enemies are not necessarily my enemies. Let them fight their own Wars. No more American blood and treasure for Israel. They need to learn how to get along with their neighbors you know.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:35pmI’m indifferent on Zionism or Judaism, and I’m a little ignorant regarding what’s considered racist these days. So forgive me if I offend anyone. That is not my intent. I’m just asking questions. OK? I support Ron Paul and don’t hate anyone that hasn’t wronged me personally, so…
Is Zionism and Judaism the same thing? Can one be against Zionism and but have no ill feelings towards Jewish people, or is being anti-Zionist the same as being anti-Semitic?
Someone give me a quick course on what’s up.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:48pmWell justangry, I never used to be interested in politics at all until the 2008 election. I heard the term progressive being thrown around and I had no idea what it meant. I heard glenn talk about it so I decided that it was important enough for me to learn about it for myself. I read books, I did research online and I came to my own conclussion about it. I would recommend that you do the same thing in regards to the term zionism. One thing that I would recommend to you is to be aware of the context in which it is being used.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:04pm@Berbel,
Report Post »First, I’ve made comments to fellow RP supporters I thought were out of line. Specifically, Tech for posting a link that took me to a David Duke video on Youtube. Second, I’ve done some wikii searches, but that‘s about all the time I’m willing to invest now, because quite frankly, I am indifferent and just not that bright. There’s so much other stuff that I’d prefer to learn atm. So, I was just asking because it didn’t seem to me that the two were synonymous.
Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:26pm@Anonymous T. Irrelevant
You sound nieve to politics, dear. Perhaps you should not be discussing such topics.
It is not the president who drives policy and change, its the hundreds that he appoints and surrounds himself with. When ‘President Paul’ signs an order that ripples through the bloated gov’t, gutting its size, it wont have a “whiny” sound to it, dear.
You should have learned this much about presidents and their effect on policy, when Mr. Dopey Change appointed all his Progrosso-Tard Czars, with your money, to the squeeze on you.
But, what the heck — you wouldn’t know the makings of a Police State, even if you woke up in Gitmo the next morning, right?
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:16pmWell justangry if you want to be indifferent that’s your prerogative, however I will just say that being indifferent can have devastating consequnces. The German people during the 1930′s were indifferent. As far as you not being that bright, I highly doubt that simply based on your use of the term synonymous in the correct context. Which leads me to believe that either you are being overly modest in regards to your level of intelect or that your attempt to get me to define the two terms and show their interchangeability was some sort of an attempt to discredit my earlier supposition. Regardless of all that I can tell a racist or anti-semite when I hear or read the writings of one, and I will have nothing to do with them no matter how many other views/positions that we may have in common.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:42pm@Berbel,
Report Post »Nah man. I’m not trying to trick you into saying anything. I just wanted to know, because, as I said, I didn’t really feel confident with what I found online. Ignorance and racism can be hard to differentiate and I think you really have to know a person before you can be certain. When I mentioned that I once said something to Tech regarding a post; that doesn’t necessarily mean, I think he’s racist. He might not have known who David Duke was. At any rate, I’m not indifferent to the people of Israel, I just think their military is pretty badass and can take care of themselves. I’m indifferent to learning another person’s dogma when I can’t make sense of my own.
techengineer11
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:48pmBerbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:16pm
Well justangry if you want to be indifferent that’s your prerogative, however I will just say that being indifferent can have devastating consequnces. The German people during the 1930′s were indifferent
They were not indifferent… lol Hell they were extremely intelligent and informed. They wanted those damn Jews out of their country and rightfully so!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 8:27pmOk now, I’m fairly sure
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:04pmAs for you techy you are up there with rose-ellen being one of the biggest liars and biggots on this site. Lie #1 – Zionist/zionism doesn’t refer to allegiance to Israel above all else. It is a term used by propalestinian zealots who want to delegitimize Israel and the Israeli government as an occupier and oppressor state when in fact nothing could be farther from the truth. Anti-semetic biggots use the term to lie to people by trying to convince everyone that their agenda is to secure “freedom” for the “oppressed” “Palestians” while in actuality it’s the destruction of the Israeli state and the complete genocide of the Jewish people that is their ultimate goal. Lie #2 – There are NO American soldiers fighting and dieing for Israel as you would like everyone to believe. We have and hopefully will continue to support Israel’s right to exist in their ancestral homeland and to provide them with the material needs to ensure their survival. They have always fought their own wars and have stated that they don’t need or want our assistance. Lie #3 – Israels enemies are our enemies. While you may want to ignore the facts on jihad, our presence in the middle east has little to do with their hatred toward us and Israel. Their reference to Israel as the little satan and the U.S. as the great satan isn’t just lip service from them. Their intent is to wipe us from the map because they hate our very way of life, the freedoms that we enjoy and that we don’t pray to all
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:21pmTech, Dude, you can‘t really be a Ron Paul supporter and think that some of the stuff you’re saying is going to help him win any support. I’m actually quite sure the good doctor would dennounce your last comment. Lumping a group of people together is contrary to the Libertarian phylosophy of individualism. I‘m beginning to think you’re a big time troll trying to discredit RP.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:28pmJustangry it is my belief that nothing could be more important than knowing and discovering the truth. It may be cliched to say but those that don’t know history are doomed to repeat it. Igornance whether intensional or not can allow good men to be easily misled and manipulated. Knowledge of the truth is the key to defending all that we hold dear in life. I would encourage you to find the truth for yourself. I promise you that the journey will be very rewarding.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:43pm@Berber, I know, hoss. There’s just a lot of history out there to soak up. Believe it or not, that’s why I asked in the first place. Shortcuts help. Thanks for the information. I’m sure a lot of us will benifit from it.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 9:49pmYou see, you people sound vain. Oh it is how he looks, how he talks, he just isn’t like you or me. It is his mind people. It is his character people. His son was ingrained with the same character beliefs. We cannot wait another four years for Rand. We need Paul in now. Rand can take his place in 4-8 years.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:02pm@TECH This guy Sheldon Adelson who claims to be the richest Jew in the world has just donated 10 million to Newt Gingrich’s campaign..Gingrich, lacking organization and campaign efforts in the Silver State, is having his billionaire buddy try and buy an election for him.According to ABC News, “Adelson has been under criminal investigation for a year by the Department of Justice and the Securities Exchange Commission for alleged bribery of foreign officials http://www.dailypaul.com/208974/we-need-help-in-nevada-now-please-write-letters-about-the-theft-of-our-caucus What’s funny..is if they sink all that money into that candidate and Newt gets in…sinks the ship..then we all go down…
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:34pmjustangry: I support Dr. Paul because he exalts the US Constitution. Dr. Paul also realizes the insanity in wasting 4 trillion dollars over the past 10 years in the Middle East, the needless maiming and killing of 10s of thousands of US GIs, and 100s of thousands of innocent Arab women and children. He aslo sees the utter contempt for America which some of these Neo-Cons have by the fact that they desire to supplement dozens of nations across the globe with US military bases while down sizing and laying off Americans at home and leaving our Borders wide open with silly execuses like cost.
In the past I’ve supported Ronald Reagan, GHB, Pat Buchanon, Ross Perot, Alan Keyes, GWB, Mike Huckabee, and even John McCain after the addition of Sarah Palin. Do you know in years past someone who supported the murder of innocent babies or the perversion of homosexuality wouldn’t even be allowed to show their face in the public square of America. Today they are mainstream and worm has turned almost entirely in the other direction. My hope is that in the very near future many of my fellow Conservative American citizens will share my concern for Jewish supremacy in America.
ashestoashes: I‘m very aware of Adleson’s support for Gingrich.. I find it utterly disgusting and disgraceful. They simply have too much money and too much influence over our politics today.. But that was the plan all along. Nothing new under the Sun as the old proverb says.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 11:53pm@Tech, I support RP for many of the same reasons you mentioned, but you can’t come on a thread about racist RP newletters and post, referencing the Germans in 1930:
“They were not indifferent… lol Hell they were extremely intelligent and informed. They wanted those damn Jews out of their country and rightfully so!”
You can‘t possibly believe you’re helping the RP Revolution. Most of us are trying to defend Doctor Paul from these accusations while you’re adding fuel to the fire. Do you expect me to believe that you don‘t know that what you’re saying is a turn off to decent people? You’re a troll, and linking a David Duke youtube video probably got a lot of good honest people on Big Sis’s radar. If you really wanted Ron Paul elected, you’d knock it off.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 1:30amOnce again techy spews more of his half truths and misinformation. To make the claim that our troops were somehow directly responsible for the killing of innocent women and children is disgusting and vile. Sadam Husein was a real threat to the middle east and to our allies and needed to be dealt with before he had the chance to invade another of his neighbors or to gas and kill more of his own people which actually included 100,000′s of women and children. In Afghanistan the taliban and al queada had setp up a terrorist safe haven and stronghold and to claim that we shoudn’t have gone after the enemies of the United States there and that our brave men and women in the arm forces died needlessly is beyond contemptable. While I am against us being involved in nation building I have no problem striking an enemy before they can do us harm. Our enemies are kept in check because of our ability to reach out and destroy them without warning and that requires that we have troops in the area. And I just love how in techy’s 2nd paragraph he begins by railing against the liberal lefts stance on homosexuality and being prochoice which of course most conservatives stand against but then he slips in at the end more of his anti-semetic conspiratory beliefs about some sort of “Jewish supremancy in America”. techengineer11 and those extreme far right lunatic fringe Jew hating alex jones devotees like him are what gives conservatism a bad name and they all seem drawn to Ron Paul.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:42pmDid The Blaze simply wonder if the Ron Paul supporters were still around, still reading? ;-)
Been quiet for awhile regarding RP news, scandals, etc. and therefore not as much reason for RP supporters to post, defend RP, etc.
Well, if that’s the case, we guess you’ve received your answer. They’re still here, still reading–just have been more quiet about RP these days. :)
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 10:39pmI don‘t think the Blazer who posted this article got the memo that they were supposed to be ignoring RP again because trying to smear him wasn’t working. Now that’s a silly conspiracy theory, but…
Report Post »Liberty-or-Death
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:41pmHow about a story, about how Gingrich and Santorum aren‘t and won’t be on the ballots of states worth over 500 delegates! It is absolutely impossible for either one of them to win the nomination. Is Glenn’s support for Santorum really support for a brokered convention? Glenn supports Freedomworks, and they want a brokered convention. So….
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:58pmLiberty: In which states are Santorum and Gingrich not even on the ballot? I’ve heard this talk about 564 delegates they cannot compete for, but I‘ve never heard concretely which states’ delegates they are ineligible for. Thanks.
Report Post »Liberty-or-Death
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:12pm@DRSAVAGE24 – Neither Gingrich nor Santorum are on the ballots of Virginia, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee and Illinois. http://www.dailypaul.com/208898/its-a-2-man-race
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:54pmSo mitt it will be then: Only 35% of republicans say they support the ideas of the tea party (most others find it too radical). Therefore, 65% of Republican voters will not even consider RP. With the two others not on the ballot, 65% will most likely pick Mitt or simply not vote.
If you wanted a real change, we should have put more work into educating those around us on the foundations of liberty instead of trying to push one person as the be-all-end-all; should have presented the ideas twice as much as the person that you think represents them (that is unless you believe the American people are stupid and unable to learn) then trusted those people to make a good judgement for themselves. That is the exercise of freedom for all and it is living your beliefs. Calling them names (neocon, sheeple,idiots seem to be amongst the favorites) accomplishes nothing but elevating the antagonism in the populous to both the message and the candidate.
So in the end, Mitt it will be.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:16pmAXELPHANTOM:
We always knew it was going to be Mitt. I could theorize that Gingrich is just an operative to make Mitt look viable but I will save that convo for my smoking friends.
I never insulted anybody pre-emptively but I sure as heck know full well that there is only one candidate who is on the same page as the American ideal and that is Paul. The blackout and lack of exposure of Paul have only strengthened my belief that he is the right choice. Surely you have noticed that he has been the 5th wheel even though he is a strong contender.
There are forces that are trying to push him out of the running. I have never been a big fan of ‘forces’.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 28, 2012 at 12:39amSdarbro,
I guess you never bothered to look beyond the two party system.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:38pmNo matter HOW this is spun, it’s negative.
IF Ron Paul knew about the materials and they went out under his name, that’s incriminating.
If Ron Paul did NOT know about the materials that went out under his name for 10+ years, THAT is incriminating! (incompetence, unawareness)
If he was aware of the things written in his name, but did it only for money THAT’S incriminating, too!
No matter HOW this story goes, it’s not a flattering one for Dr. Paul.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:51pmSo you are impressed by anonymous sources and statements that contradict everything he’s personally written, voted on, and clearly stated eh?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ccbaxter/22-facts-that-dont-jibe-with-ron-paul-being-a-rac-41xp
“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.
Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however, well-intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims.
This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:51pmyeah i don’t care about them… i have read them… there are no racist comments in them. there are comments pertaining to race, but they aren’t “racist”.. there is a huge difference…
Report Post »it would be like calling the mainstream media racist, because they said, “we notice that the bombings stopped when muslims were detained”, and the bombings actually did stop when the muslims were detained… just saying. we can ignore facts so we don‘t hurt people’s feelings, that makes sense…
resme
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:01pmnewt sucks.
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:06pmIncriminating? It’s not a crime, smart-attack.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:14pmHow many times are you going to allow yourself to be flagellated by this anonymous BS?
Its been reinterated 1000 times for over 20 years.
It’s hogwash based on anonymous sources. Pure USDA bulldroppings.
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:37pmCould be Alzheimers. I’m not worried about what he said 10 years, what scares me is what his pathetic, pacifist foreign policy is now.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:58pmWhen Israel wanted to take out Sadam’s nuclear site, who was virtually the only one in congress who approved of them doing so?
Hhhhmmmm.
Perhaps you should stop getting your idea’s as to where Ron Paul stands from those who distort his positions.
Then again…perhaps you were one of those who was fooled by Bush when he claimed Iraq had to be stopped, because they were working on another Nuke…eh?
You were lied to before, and you are being lied to again.
Fool me once…shame on you. Fool me twice…shame on me.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:29pmI get where Ron Paul stands every time he answers a question on Foreign policy, He is an isolationist. Obama got rid of half our allies in the world and embraced the Muslim Brotherhood, Ron Paul would get rid of the other half so when Iran launched a nuke at us the rest of the world would shrug their shoulders and say, well President Paul said it was alright for them to have nukes so I guess talking to Iran didn’t work out to well for the U.S.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:53pm@Blackhawk1
You should look up the difference between non-interventionist and isolationist, as they are certainly not the same thing, and in fact they are not even close to each other.
Ron Paul would have no problem with Israel dealing with Iran, but your Neo-Con buddies won’t let them…now will they.
Most certainly you believed Bush when he said Saddam was working on a bomb as well, didn’t you. Well…how did that work our for you?
If you actually believe that being Neutral makes enemies, you are beyond help, and the moment that Iran launched anything our way would be the day they were turned into a sea of glass.
You seem to think that building bases in others back yards while bombing their friends and families will fix things, well if you actually had that happen to you…would you like those who were responsible…or would you demand blood?
Ron Paul 2012…or bust.
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:17pmOh go take your Israel enema and wash it down with your Israel juice and you will feel better.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:37pm@Blackhawk1
Per your ‘foreign policy’ statement…stop with the Arab Monster Under The Bed” fear-mongering BS. If you are so afraid of Arabs, go draw your savings out of your 401k, go to the Middle East, and use YOUR money slay Arabian Windmills dear.
Some of us are focusing on the REAL threat to this country — we are $$$BANKRUPT$$$, and loosing our liberties to an ever-growing tyrannical police state.
Grow a pair and stop whining about monsters under your bed! In a couple of years, it won’t be Arabs kicking in your door and dragging you out of your house — I can promise you that. Wake up and stop with your Middle Eastern nightmare. Put your plastic toy soldiers away and grow up, already!
Report Post »Liberty-or-Death
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:33pmSeriously. This is out of control. There isn’t any evidence that he proofed anything. Another bs hit piece, he said she said. – Why won’t anyone involved in Mercury dig into the fascist libertarianish-hating Santorum? The truth has no agenda, but Mercury does. I was a republican/progressive neocon, until I started watching Beck. Now I absolutely refuse to vote for anyone except Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or Chuck Baldwin. All you Paul haters are to blame for another Obama term, not me.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:52pmYou just said you will not vote for anyone but Ron Paul. So another term of Obama would be all your fault.
Report Post »Liberty-or-Death
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:20pm@BLACKHAWK1 – No dummy, you can’t blame someone who votes for a candidate who supports the Constitution. Youu are a brainwashed republican beckbot who can‘t see the truth that’s right in front of you. Common sense says ‘stick to the devil you know.’ So what sense does it make to replace a lefty progressive with a righty progressive? Both paths lead to the destuction of our currency, civil unrest, and Lincoln/Wilson/Roosevelt-style internment camps.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:21pm@Blackhawk1
Its fools like you that gave us all of the RINO presidents to date. When will you change your tune? When the Republic falls to a Police State?
Course you will blame that on Libertarians also, somehow. The whole concept you have is flawed from the start….give away some liberties so that you will not loose all of them — its retarded.
Get with the program, dear. Either you vote like an American or you dont…there is no such animal as “mostly American”.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:21pm@ lib
So your philosophy is, if I don’t get what I want, it will be your fault, when MY decisions produce bad results. Just like a little child throwing a tamper tantrum.
Now, with that in mind, my candidate is Rick Santorum. He is the best choice for a president. He makes a LOT more sense then Ron Paul. I will not vote unless he is the candidate. And if Obama wins, it will be all on your shoulders, Liberty-or-Death!!!
Our liberty depends on a strong leader and a good Military. Only a man who understands that in order to keep us free, sometimes we have to go to war. A leader who does not buy the crap OUR ENEMIES tell us, what is our fault and what is not, when we are attacked.
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:25pmNo, you neocons who support your fascist, unelectable candidates will lead to Obama’s second term.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:49pmLEOPOLD:
Didn’t Santorum want felons to be able to vote? Thar makes more sense to you?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 7:55pm@Blackhawk, Man I keep hearing that same old “it will be YOUR fault” if Obama gets a second term and it’s wrong. Ron Paul supporters aren’t the ones promoting candidates who give us the Patriot Act and refuse to codemn the actions of the TSA or NDAA, Enemy Expatriation Act, etc. Or candidates who aren’t serious about the cuts that need to be made to our budget to prevent the inevitible collapse. The way I see it is the Congress and Senate Republicans are a joke with exception to Rand Paul, and Jim Demint and perhaps a few others. We’re tired of not being heard. Apparently the brilliant GOP didn’t learn their damned lesson when Perot ran, or they wouldn’t be dismissing the Libertarian concerns so easily.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:32pmAmazing how the press can find dirt on everyone except Obama.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:37pmTo find dirt on Obama, you have to dig past bedrock, most of the Media are too lazy to go that deep. Dirt for the Republicans are on the surface, so it’s easier to find.
Report Post »Come on, the messiah is perfect, the oceans receded, Arabs and Jews love each other, everyone has a job, and pixie dust and rainbows run our energy grid.
Why would they want to find dirt on this golden Child, he is the ONE.
(Sarcasm off)
mccracken
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:40pmThere’s plenty of right-wing media organizations.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:46pmIt‘s so damned obvious at this point that I can’t believe independents won’t see it and revolt against this stuff.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:55pmNo sh…, uh kidding. The Democrats are laughing at us all.
Report Post »Babeuf
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:30pmHere come da bots!
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:41pmfrothing at the mouth, shedding hot tears of impotent adolescent rage….
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:39pm@bigspike
And back in George Washington’s day…
…you would have been considered, “A Loyalist”.
Disgusting, to say the least.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:30pmThis anonymous charade is hilarious.
Ron Paul 2012.
Because all they have on Ron Paul is anonymous BS.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 4:39pmhe could rip the heart out of a newborn baby with his teeth and drink its blood right in front of you, and you Rontards would be split between claiming it never happened and claiming that it’s all a NWO/Bohemian Grove plot
sdarbro
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 5:19pmBIGSPIKE:
Wow, that is a very violent hypothetical situation. I am tempted say that is an outlandish statement, but anything is possible at Hogwarts.
Let’s hang out in person sometime. I really dig your style.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 6:38pmI see Big Spike is wearing a turtleneck…it must be a bit chilly over there on the dark side.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:29pmSooooo what! It’s the Washington Post. Need I say more?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:28pmAnd again, anonymous BS corroborated by former aides. Disgruntled aides corroborating anonymous BS doesn’t cut it with me.
Ron Paul 2012.
Screw the Anonymous BS.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 27, 2012 at 3:52pmanonymous sources = total bull.
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