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Report: Saudi King Might Move Mosque Away From Ground Zero

A Manhattan lawyer representing Saudi King Abdullah is reportedly engaging New York officials and community leaders about a plan that would move the proposed Ground Zero Mosque to an abandoned hospital farther uptown. It’s a proposal one source says is intended “to show that Muslims can do good works.”

The New York Post says attorney Dudley Gaffin is claiming King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia might want to buy the defunct  St. Vincent’s Medical Center on 12th street and transfer the mosque to a new Islamic cultural center he would build on the grounds, according to sources who have heard Gaffin’s pitch. The new mosque would be about 2.5 miles north of the current proposed site.

The proposal also includes an odd marriage of sorts, as the King would reportedly reopen much of the Catholic hospital.

The New York Post interviewed several sources:

“He’s asking what it would take to put in a bid,” said one community leader who did not want to be identified.

“He says the king wants to do this as a p.r. move — to save the hospital and move the mosque away from the World Trade Center site,” the source added. “He wants to show that Muslims can do good works.”

“[Gaffin is] talking about the Saudis,” said another source, a politically connected lawyer. “I don’t know if any conversations have taken place [with them].”

The cost would be at least $300 million — the combined amount that the Sisters of Charity, which owns the hospital, owes the biggest secured creditors, GE Capital and TD bank.

If true, the King would have to outbid a group looking to tear down the hospital and build luxury condos. King Abdullah is currently in New York recovering from back surgery.

Read the full story from the New York Post.

Comments (131)

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  • NHABE64
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:23pm

    Good idea, how about 10,000 miles away.

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  • Supreme Galooti
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:14pm

    What will be will be. But I would certainly enjoy watching the fireworks for the next few years if the mosque actually is established as currently planned. Mohamaden angels vs. Hell’s Angels.

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  • BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:08pm

    “He says the king wants to do this as a p.r. move — to save the hospital and move the mosque away from the World Trade Center site,” the source added. “He wants to show that Muslims can do good works.”

    Let me see if I get this right. The Muslim Imam wants to build the Mosque at GZ. Most of the US population does not want the Mosque built at GZ. In fact, a good many US citizens do not want anymore Mosques built in the states, period. So, as an act of good works the king says he would opt for the Mosque to be built 2 – 3 miles away from GZ. If people go along with this- they still get their Mosque. I say, to show a true act of good works the king should support the building of a Christian church in every Islamic country- including Mecca. When the wonderful, benevolent, and good king promotes this, I will consider another Mosque on American soil- but not before!

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  • Jfifthwheel
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:02pm

    Were did this king come from, I had no idea he was behind all this Wow

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  • Tyrone
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:21pm

    I have a better idea for the King. Build it in Saudi Arabia.

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    • joan k
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:09pm

      AMEN to that.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 5:00am

      Ditto. So remind me: Why are we friends with Saudi Arabia?

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    • AMERICAtheEMPIRE
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 10:45pm

      Hey Krypto, I’ll help ya figure the friendship out… did you start your car today? Thank a Saudi. If Bush is good enough to hold hands with the Saudis, we should be too!!!!!

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  • powhatan
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:10pm

    why does someone from another country have to do something to say that muslims can do good works? I do not believe they can do any good works for anyone but themselves. and BAD works to anyone other than their own..

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    • EP46
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 4:37am

      You are right. Muslims can do good works ????

      Over 75% of Bethlehem is now Muslim and I heard on the news that visitors are having to be ‘escorted into Bethlehem” to celebrate Christmas. Christians having to be Protected from Muslims in BETHLEHEM

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  • ensemble
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:10pm

    im4truth..I hear you, that is why I left it open. It does make things more confusing when the king came here for health care and now wants to help a Catholic hospital and wants to move from ground zero. This would not be looked at as a great pr move..if the Catholic church would support it’s own hospital and the American people would have rebuilt ground zero, in whatever way they could rebuild it..in almost ten years. These openings for muslims to confiscate land and pr hospitals would not happen if the US would have had investors or the Catholic church would have supported the nuns and it’s own hospital. Maybe the saudi king is trying to help..I don’t know..I do know that God helps those who help themselves and others..why hasn’t that been done concerning ground zero and St. Vincent’s hospital. It makes us look bad that a muslim king wants to do what we have not been able to do ourselves.

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    • 60yroldfemale
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:11pm

      Exactly when did you leave Mayberry, NC.
      Nobody is that naive today.
      It bothers me when people try to sound so kindly and very gently spank or slap Americans .
      You need to go back to school and learn about first and second person speaking voice.
      You’re either with us or “agin us”.
      “It makes us look bad that a muslim king wants to do what we have not been able to do ourselves.”
      If you were an American, you would understand choice.
      No it doesn’t. Nothing those women abusers could do could begin to make us look bad.
      What a crock.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 8:45pm

      No need to be harsh 60yroldfemale.

      The fact is that most Americans are trusting, good-hearted people, who want to do the right thing.

      What sane and compassionate person doesn’t want to see genuine “Peace on earth”?
      It’s reasonable to question what is motivating this Mosque issue, when it is still an open and festering wound in the heart of the American people. Since we already know that the goal of the enemy is to divide and conquer, would you agree that, that‘s what they’re aiming for? And we’re certainly making it an easier task for them – since we have difficulty showing respect for one another’s opinions in these forums.
      Somebody out there must be laughing themselves silly.

      Man!
      There are times I get the feeling we’re wrestling with the inevitable!
      But I think I’m to dern stubborn to stop opposing them because of that.

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  • alwayssora
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:57pm

    So they couldn’t find a contractor willing to raise a hammer, huh?

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:32pm

      @Alwayssora-yes thats what hanity said not a contractor would take the job thank God

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  • 60yroldfemale
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:51pm

    More patterns:
    Wikiwacki leaks cables that Saudi royals paid for AL Qaida.
    Royals need some good PR. We really have to lull those crazy Americans back to sleep.
    St. Vincents a catholic hospital that lost battle to expand to same board of Historic commission that OKayed the Burlington Factory location for Park 51 (not historic enough).
    St. Vincents lost because expansion would take down some houses that MAY have been part of the undergound railroad.
    Hagia Sofia used to be a Church and it’s now a Mosque after the Ottomans conquered Constantinople.
    It was Arabs who came up with the saying about the camels nose in the tent, not Cherokee Indians.

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:02pm

      Actually, the Hagia Sophia is now a museum.

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    • 60yroldfemale
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:55am

      kompostzah would that be the Blue Mosque museum?

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:34pm

      Well, I don‘t know that it’s called a museum, but I do know the Hagia Sophia is no longer a functioning mosque.

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  • Room 101
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:49pm

    I’m still confused about the fact that the so called king came to the U.S. for major surgery… why not be treated by the wonderful NHS in the UK?

    Beyond that, the story says it all: “…king wants to do this as a p.r. move…”

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  • im4truth
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:49pm

    Well Gumby, since you asked…
    Never mind, I think you answered your own question.

    It’s not a wonder Christianity is under so much attack these days. Is it?

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 2:30am

      IM4TRUTH, Why is it that you would riddicule anyone who believes in praying for someone ?The bible states that we should pray for our enemies. Are you one? I am curious how any person would want to bite the hand that feeds them. Simple, but can you grasp that? Maybe if you took the time to pray you might be able to comprehend the importance of it. Believe me I have struggled with myself at times. It isn’t always an easy thing to do. I am just curious if you were actually being truthful or just trying to shock us for a response. This site has many who come here for various reasons. Some enjoy pushing our buttons to discredit what we stand for. So what are you?………sincerely Gumbie

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  • Spawnomite
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:46pm

    I think the Ground Zero Mosque needs to stay.
    The only moving that should be done is moving it closer to Ground Zero.
    I love Obama.

     
    • 60yroldfemale
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:55pm

      @spawn of
      You do realize that the phrase “ground zero” actually referred to the immediate blast zone of an atomic bomb?
      You’re right, the closer the better.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 1:54am

      Spawnomite, I can not believe that any American would support this. Explain to us how you chose the socialist path instead of the freedom this country blessed you with? I will pray for you.

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    • AMERICAtheEMPIRE
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 10:26pm

      Go spawn go! You must love ‘merica, the Constitution and that POORLY written first ammedment. You and that f’in first ammedment must go!

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  • Ezekiel38
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:44pm

    I’ll be a hundred percent satisfied if no taxpayer money is used to build that mosque.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:08pm

      I hope the jihadimam and his family are forced to return the US taxpayer money Hussain paid for their vacation in the middle-east.

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  • GumbyGunslinger
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:35pm

    What do we (United States) need ANOTHER mosque for anyway? I realize muslims breed like rabbits but there are other mosques they can attend all over the country. Just do a hadji to Dearborn or Detroit. It would save a few days travel to the mecca/medina metroplex. Is it me or is EVERYBODY in the world on a spending binge nowdays?? SHEEEESH!!! Sock it away for allah’s sake! BTW….. Happy allah’s day!!

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  • TheRealElvis
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:33pm

    Options like this were available from the start. Why does it take a barrage of dissent from real Americans to change their minds? There were no muslims when the country was founded. Assimilate!! This is a country of refuge not a country to establish a foreign religion or government.

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  • southernloyalty
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:30pm

    Well at least we know now for sure where the money is coming from. Hey, why don’t we just bend over and hand this so called country we used to have to every foreign power who wants a piece. I mean come on, its not like anyone’s going to put that beer down and turn the ball game off and go out and stop them.

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    • jimdevy
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:53pm

      @SOUTHERN – Just like how our own government has taken pieces of other countries who have “bent over?” Riiiiight. I hardly think that a King from Saudi Arabia buying property for religious purposes means America is handing over her freedom and sovereignty, just like how Catholics building Cathedrals and Mormons buiding Temples is taking sovereign powers away and power. How much foreign property do you think is owned by the US? For one example, the US owns almost 50% of the soil in Okinawa Prefecture, Japan, for military use. Plus they own land for military use in dozens of other nations, INCLUDING Saudi Arabia. Now what do you think would happen if Saudi Arabia purchased even ONE ACRE of land in America for Military use? For one thing I think it stands as a testament that not every Muslim hates America as there are still people and families there, and have been for so long.
      @GUMBY – Nice move on the rednecks. Sad that it had to involve their faith.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 4:10am

      JimDevy: “Plus they own land for military use in dozens of other nations, INCLUDING Saudi Arabia.”

      Are you talking about the US military installations the Saudis WANT there, to save them from their oh so peaceful neighbors? We are protecting them at their request. How can you compare that to a foreign govt. engaging in highly controversial religious activism in America?

      I am so sick and tired of the liberal anti-military stance. Red states should seriously start to consider the need to secede. Muslims, illegals and commies have banded together to destroy this country.

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:30pm

    That‘s a wonderful idea because we can’t guarantee the safety of those in and around the building.

    The next step is forcing Obama to mouth the words that it’s not going to happen.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:41pm

      That the construction of the mosque isn’t going to happen. The next question will there be available space next door for our Flaming GI’s to build bar?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:10pm

      Is the Greek Orthodox Church @ G-0 rebuilt yet ?

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  • ensemble
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:29pm

    On it’s face value, it seems like an okay offer. To help the Catholic hospital get back up and running when no one else seems to be doing it, is a decent gesture and to move the offensive proposed ground zero mosque is a must..and that has been what every American has been demanding. Since no other backer has wanted to help St. Vincent’s..(umm..where is the Catholic church on this, why does a Muslim king have to bring it back to serving people..just saying). But, American’s would not and will not tollerate a mosque at ground zero, so that would be solved. Maybe because the king came here to the US for his health care, maybe his eyes have been opened. Just what it looks like on the surface. I’m sure there is more to come.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:51pm

      Some of the best advise that can ever be given is a simple warning to beware of innocent appearances.

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    • 60yroldfemale
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:59pm

      Surely you are not brain dead enough to think that a country where owning a Bible or a crucifix are capital crimes is going to support a Catholic Hospital?
      Call me, I have some swampland I would like to sell you cheap.
      Great for building a vacation home, there are dry seasons you know.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:04pm

      I don‘t know anything about anyone else’s intentions. Just the thought of Islam and Catholicism uniting in any way makes me cringe.
      One world religion anyone?

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:25pm

    Why be so dramatic. We can kill hundreds of thousands of their children with simple economic sanctions like banning the manufacture or importing of chlorine to disinfect water. It’s a win win situation, we get a Muslim hospital to help Americans yet we can kill millions of them without looking like bad guys.

    The overall literacy rate in Iraq had been 78% in 1977 and 87% for adult women by 1985, but declined rapidly since then. Between 1990 and 1998, over one fifth of Iraqi children stopped enrolling in school, consequently increasing the number of non-literates and losing all the gains made in the previous decade. The 1990s also saw a dramatic increase in child labor, from a virtually non-existent level in the 1980s. The per capita income in Iraq dropped from $3510 in 1989 to $450 in 1996, heavily influenced by the rapid devaluation of the Iraqi dinar.[20]

    Iraq had been one of the few countries in the Middle East that invested in women’s education. But this situation changed from the late eighties on with increasing militarisation and a declining economic situation. Consequencently the economic hardships and war casualties in the last decades have increased the number of women-headed households and working women.[20]

    Researcher Richard Garfield estimated that “a minimum of 100,000 and a more likely estimate of 227,000 excess deaths among young children from August 1991 through March 1998″ from all causes including sanctions

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:22pm

      What on earth are you talking about??

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    • mrclean
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:35pm

      He’s got moss on the brain.

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    • Bad Thunder
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:34pm

      the local rehab better do a bed check………

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    • Max jones
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:55pm

      Sorry mossbrain, looks like you ran into a buch of “my country -right or wrong ” zealots. You are right in your views and it is tragic. i can no longer get my head around the reasons that are used to perpetuate past mistakes. There must be a HUGE re-assessment of the true intentions of the American people. WE are America, and we are better, and more passionate and compassionate than any other people on earth. WE must find the truth that is being withheld on ALL fronts. I don’t want explanations excuses or justifications. Unvarnished truth, as painful as it may turn out to be, IS the beginning of spiritual healing. We won’t get better without it.

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    • AMERICAtheEMPIRE
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 10:12pm

      Mossbrain, Some do not understand the significance of what you said. But, I do and I am impressed. In order to stop terrorism, it is simple… make sure that all have an economic stake in the game. An educated, informed and economincally sound person is less likely to risk the “steak” they have. Take away their education, objective information and future, what is left, but to end your life while taking anothers. I am not sure how or why you ended up here, but glad you are.

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  • im4truth
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:19pm

    “An odd marriage of sorts…”?
    Hmmm. Interesting choice of words. Will there be a prenupt agreement? A buyer BEWARE clause of some sort?
    Cuz – Shucks Olly,
    I’m afraid I don”t like this proposal very much either.

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  • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:16pm

    The Saudi King has no say in our affairs. He needs to shut his pie hole like Calderon does.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:18pm

      The cost would be at least $300 million — the combined amount that the Sisters of Charity, which owns the hospital, owes the biggest secured creditors, GE Capital and TD bank.
      ————————————————
      GE Capital and TD bank

      I know about GE.
      Now this TD bank, isn’t this TD Ameritrade Bank ?

      OK now I see ….

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:57pm

      Beware of Muslims bearing gifts.

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    • jimdevy
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:36pm

      DOCTORSLABOR — So what you are saying is
      A) You want the Mosque at ground zero, and
      B) You don’t think that any of our Presidents should be involved in the affairs of other countries like the last few wars over the past 30 years. You don’t want the American or Canadian governments to sending relief aid to Haiti. You don’t want Catholic Charities or other groups sending food and clothes to victims of tsunamis, earthquakes, and floods. You don’t want the Pope to condemn American cases of child abuse committed by catholic priests. You wouldn’t want the cops to catch whoever rapes a family member of yours, just like how its none of their affair if you are speeding down the road or not. You wouldn’t want a fire-truck to come and stop your house from burning down. You wouldn’t want that because according to you, people need to stick to their own affairs.
      Nah, you wouldn’t want that. Of course you wouldn’t.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:02pm

      “DOCTORSLABOR — So what you are saying is
      A) You want the Mosque at ground zero”

      If the Mosque stays or goes, that’s our concern, not Saudi’s. Also, the Saudi King doesn’t want to move the Mosque for the same reason I do, so, like someone else said, “Beware Muslims bearing gifts.”

      “, and
      B) You don’t think that any of our Presidents should be involved in the affairs of other countries like the last few wars over the past 30 years. ”

      I don’t believe in nation building, but going after those who attacked us is fine.

      “You don’t want the American or Canadian governments to sending relief aid to Haiti. ”

      The Saudi King does not want to aid us, but to further a Muslim agenda. This is my response to all appeals you make to examples of offers to aiding other countries.

      “You wouldn’t want the cops to catch whoever rapes a family member of yours, ”

      This is an internal affair, which is beyond the scope of my position on the Saudi King and on Calderon.

      I believe that covers everything.

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    • jimdevy
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 3:33am

      Fair enough. However, I do still submit that as a prominent Muslim, the King should act in interests which support his faith — much like the Vatican would want to step in for ultimate approval of a cathedral in the US (take that as an analogy as I don’t know the true process behind it). As far as supporting the Muslim agenda – sure. But I would think its a step backwards from actually putting it up at ground zero. Whether or not the Mosque/community center will be a terrorist hub or a haven of faith for the Muslim people who are American patriots and are against the radicals (who DO exist, by the way as I know some and as evidenced by the 4000-12000 Muslim-American troops according to various sources) will be up for time to decide. Thank you for response.

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  • Wildblue3
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:15pm

    JB. That’s not needed. Not all Muslims are bag. King Abdullah has shown that through his offer.

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    • aro5o75
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:50pm

      Are you really that gullible or do you just think we are?

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:52pm

      @Wildbule3 – Yes, King Abdullah is a good and kind Muslim….He rules a country where there are very few civil rights for most…..and none for women. People are beaten, tortured, imprisoned and killed regularly. Totalitarianism cloaked in a facade of civility is still evil. And just remember, alot of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, as well as their most famous citizen…..Osama Bin Laden…..

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    • jimdevy
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:27pm

      @AR — You and the rest of the bigots on here make the rest of us sick. You are DEFINITELY gullible. Gullible enough to believe all this crap and misinformation that ALL muslims are bad. I bet you also believe that all blacks are going to rob a liquor store and go to jail at some point in there life; that all hispanic-americans are illegal and carry guns and rape white girls; that all catholic priests molest little boys; that all white business men will screw you over the first chance they get. You’re type is pathetic. You’re type are the ones who belong with the fanatics strapping bombs to themselves, you arrogant and ignorant freaks. You’re lot is the disease that is rotting America from the core.

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    • Insipid
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:44pm

      It is nice to see an olive branch of sorts. Kudos to the king

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    • ecsecs1
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:34am

      yeah its pretty far out there to say all Muslims are bad…. I am as far right as I thought it gets but you guys make me think I better order more .223 rounds.

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  • Wildblue3
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:14pm

    I think this is a great gesture on behalf of the king. The question I have is will the leaders of the project take him up on his offer.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:22pm

      I think it’s a very, very, BAD idea.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:13pm

      attorney Dudley Gaffin is claiming King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia might want to buy the defunct St. Vincent’s Medical Center on 12th street and transfer the mosque to a new Islamic cultural center he would build on the grounds,
      ==============

      So the NEW hospital will be called King Abdullah Medical Center and Madarassa er…..Mosque ?
      Now when that happens, will the King’s muslim hospital be forced to conduct abortions ? How about emergency services to Jews and Christians ?
      What worries me the most is the trend still follows the letter and intent of koran– top religious building of other religions with mosques, give out azaaans from those grounds and move on to the next target. But what do I know. I just read koran in its original arabic !
      ( I know how to capitalize words)

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 8:51pm

      @Cheez–
      What about porcine replacement heart vavles?

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 8:51pm

      Sorry: *valves*.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 4:44am

      They are assessing their losses, regrouping and changing tactics. The goal remains the same.

      Most of us vehemently oppose the GZ Islamization Center, and we don’t freaking need that Muslim king Obama bows to providing millions of petrodollars to build mosques in America.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:14pm

    smart move, if it works..

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:05pm

      Wasn’t this rabat + mosk supposed to be a local NYC matter ? Bloomberg said so himself. He wanted every other American to butt out because outsiders have no standing to even debate the issue .
      NOW THE KING OF ISLAM WANTS TO BE THE DECIDER ??? IS HE A LOCAL NOW ?

      Plz read. I beg all of you , plz read this . http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/islam_center_eerie_echo_of_ancient_iRTMW6TprkULnaA1Nqi9xM

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:09pm

      Agree. My problem with the GZ mosque all along has been proximity to GZ.

      The fact is, the building on the proposed site of GZ was hit with the landing gear of the second plane. As far as I’m concerned, that qualifies the building as Ground Zero.

      Put the thing a mile or two down the road and you’ll hear no complaint from me.

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  • jblovesAmerica
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:10pm

    i think we should target MECCA and MEDINA with NUKES- telling the muslim world what happens if anything like 9/11 happens ever again.
    its that simple!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
    • NoDaDAZone
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:25pm

      If you have to go to great lengths “to show that Muslims can do good works”, methinks thou art protesting too much.

      Why did King SlobDullard wait so long before picking up the clue-phone and acknowledging that the Ground Zero mosque would be detrimental to the long term interests of the Saudi funded Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR whose mission is to take down the “miserable house of the West from within”?

      No problem. Move the most 2.5 miles and continue funding extremism. Not fooling anybody.

      Historic Israel National Radio Interview: “Revising the Revisionists and Conquerers of Ancient History
      http://www.marcrubin.com/judean-eve.ivnu (This is a great interview to understand the genesis of Islam and who these people are)

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    • guyperram
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:57pm

      When is the pope starting the Cathedral in Mecca? If he isn’t. why not? We all know how these “peace loving” muslims would react, so why not fight fire with fire?
      Not to mention, when do we get the cathedral that was built by the crusaders back? The one the muslems converted to their faith? You know, the one right by the Wailing Wall, in Jerusalem.

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    • JESUS-IS-LORD
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:57pm

      Isa Al Masih

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:22pm

      This moving of the mosque will come down to the old saying of “I will actually believe it when or if it actually happens.” So now we shall see indeed what is to come.

      By the way, the targeting of Mecca and Medina with nukes should only be used as a deterence factor if the administration would actually bother to do so. In this way – they target us, with WMD’s and then the two cities become parking lots with glowing light for the next few millenia.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:30pm

      @JBLOVESAMERICA – Add the Dome of the Rock onto your list. If Muslims know that their violent ways will have immediate consequences, then they will either curtail their actions….or when we destroy Mecca, Medina and the Dome of the Rock, they will take the gloves off, and the rest of the world will have no choice but to rise up and destroy Islam. A rather extreme option I grant you, but it would certainly work. The real threat of being wiped out, might be the only thing that will stop Muslims from trying to destroy us all. Besides, I think the Jewish people would much rather rebuild their temple on the Temple Mount, once that ugly Muslim abomination of a building has been removed.

      The real problem in the world today is the fact that theres alot of people that really can‘t or won’t understand just what a serious threat Muslims are. They refuse to see that they cannot be bargained with, they cannot live in peace and they won’t stop til anyone they consider an “infadel” is wiped from the world. Bargaining with them is like trying to reason with a rabid animal….all it will get you is bit.

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    • William_Wallace
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:35pm

      I think you should keep your nukes to yourselves.

      Stop threatening the rest of the world with your weapons of mass destruction.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 5:38pm

      GE loves PR goodwill moves they should absorb the debt. They can use bailout funds.

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    • AriBenTZion
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:08pm

      “to show that Muslims can do good works.”? Really.

      In the late 1980’s and early 1990’s, Muslim Iraq fought a war against its neighbor, Muslim Iran in which over 1 million Muslim men died at the hands of other Muslims. Then, Muslim Iraq invaded Muslim Kuwait and maimed, raped and killed thousands of Muslim Kuwaiti citizens. Let’s not even mention Kyrgyzstan and parts of Africa.

      Muslims don’t even like other Muslims so, why would anybody be foolish enough to believe they could like us? There is no such thing as Muslims doing good works. Islam is a backward, necrophile cult that was started by the child molester, Mohammed (may his name and memory be obliterated).

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    • Bad Thunder
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:30pm

      recovering from back surgery? …… I‘m betting it’s the oxycotin doing the talking……… he will be back for rehab in about 6 to 12 months…

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:43pm

      This is a good first step. At least here‘s a Muslim who doesn’t want to keep poking us in the eye.

      PatriotShops.com

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    • solarplex
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:00pm

      No..LMAO…listen and think about this. “This idea,now comes (AFTER) the november 2nd mid-term house cleaning.” ……..Prior to this,there was run-away socialism and basically washington was giving away America to anyone BUT Americans….This is fact………Come 2012,these people in the mid-east need to be on good terms with The Constitutionalists whom (WILL) prevail…..so their AZZ isnt handed to them…as they deserve.

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    • bglaidlaw
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:51pm

      I like that idea … might just be hammer they would respect.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:11am

      And the lies are exposed! I thought they said that all the support was from and for the local congregation? Suddenly a Saudi king has the choice to move it? Don’t be naive America! The Muslims are lying to your face and DO have a stealth agenda to push Islam in all areas in all levels of society. This is the evidence, they are backed by Muslim foreign interests and it is for their agenda! The only place this house of Death should be moved it to Saudi Arabia where it belongs! Islam has only brought hate, violence and intimidation to this country nothing else but the traitors in our country and government want to mass import it and give it more freedom to spread this EVIL! Ban Islam in the USA NOW!
      Fight it wherever it is! Don’t be ashamed! Invoke nationalism in your area and fight against the foreign invasion of America!

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    • GNothac
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 5:19am

      With your logic it would work vbut then we would be in a new realitly. T\he USA is not ready for Korea, Mexico and Irag to break.. It apears the pencil, pen and sword arent working. Well, NK and China are going to push us into war. Thanks yall!

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    • GiGi80
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:26am

      Right. We should punish a whole host of innocents (including the Christians and Jews) living near Mecca for the actions of specific despicable criminals. That would certainly show our moral superiority. I am taking a moment to reflect on “What would (my) Jesus do?“ My feeling is that he would be waaaaay beyond the OT ”eye for an eye.”
      Oh, and JFifthWheel: this is the king with whom GWB was photographed holding hands a few months before 911.

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    • tvr54
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:49am

      Sounds good to me, a glass parking lot should change there minds a little.

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    • Alvin691
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 5:13pm

      Subtile

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    • squeaker
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 1:28am

      TXPILOT – I’m with you.

      Until we unleash the full power of the USA military on them, they will not get it.

      As you posted “”Bargaining with them is like trying to reason with a rabid animal….all it will get you is bit.”" is the absolute truth…

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    • jmparrish
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:16am

      The problem is that we dont have any major car companies offering cars that run on natural gas!

      otherwise we could tell saudi arabia and the rest of the ******* to f-off

      When ford or GM make a natural gas car all of our problems will be over

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