Report: Wikileaks Emails From Stratfor Allege Osama Might Not Have Been Buried at Sea
- Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:30am by
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Wikileaks has allegedly released emails showing at least one high-ranking individual at the private, Texas-based, security mega-firm Stratfor believes Osama bin Laden’s body might not have been buried at sea. That’s according to the outlet Russia Today (RT).
RT has the information:
Stratfor’s vice-president for intelligence, Fred Burton, believes the body was “bound for Dover, [Delaware] on [a] CIA plane” and then “onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda [Maryland],” an email says.
The official version is that the body of Al-Qaeda’s top man, who was killed by a US raid in Pakistan on May 2, 2011, was buried at an undisclosed location at sea in a proper Muslim ceremony.
“If body dumped at sea, which I doubt, the touch is very Adolph Eichman like. The Tribe did the same thing with the Nazi’s ashes,” Burton commented in another email. Eichman was one of the masterminds of the Holocaust by Nazi Germany. He was captured by Mossad agents in Argentina and, tried in Israel, found guilty and executed in 1962. His body was cremated and his ashes were scattered at sea over the Mediterranean.
“Eichmann was seen alive for many months on trial before being sentenced to death and executed. No one wanted a monument to him so they cremated him. But i dont know anyone who claimed he wasnt eicjhman [sic]. No comparison with suddenly burying him at sea without any chance to view him which i doubt happened [sic],” Stratfor CEO George Friedman replied.
Wikileaks has not said for sure how it got the information, but the hacker group Anonymous — which is sympathetic to Wiki leader Julian Assange — did break into Stratfor’s servers in December. Back then, Wired magazine quoted an unnamed member of Anonymous as saying that the stolen data had been transferred to WikiLeaks, which allegedly acknowledged receiving the transfer using a coded message on Twitter. Anonymous appeared to confirm that account, pointing to the cryptic message “rats for donavon,” which WikiLeaks posted on Dec. 30.
But a couple notes of caution. The information included in the latest bin Laden accusation does come from Russia Today, which has long been accused of dabbling in propaganda for the Russian government, and the outlet did not release the entire email exchange. That poses some problems.
Additionally, the emails seem only to be the theory of a select individual (or individuals), not that of the entire organization or that of the U.S. government. That is, if they are even legitimate.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Comments (71)
RealCowboy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:57pmOsama is not dead,he was worth more alive than dead.He is being waterboarded.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 5:48amWho cares?
Report Post »SoCalConservative88
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:30pmRT.com posts BS stories with almost zero facts!
They still think Ron Paul has a chance at being president for christs sake!
Report Post »Jim S
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:53pm…”security mega-firm Stratfor …”….who told you that? and who cares about speculation from one of it‘s employee’s?…Strafor did Google searches and sold them…period….Barron’s,during post 9-11 hysteria called them “Shadow CIA” ..BTW they were hacked because they did not use encrypted passwords and used Strafor frequently as their password…yep pretty top notch security folks there…
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratfor
Dave In Arizona
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:43pmObama may have sent Osama’s body back to his family (with apologies, of course).
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:09pmlet’s see…how would this work? The senior officers on the ship, medical personal, people doing finger printing, taking photos, taking blood samples, readying the body, intelligence personnel. Let’s say 25 to 30 people at least envolved. They all swear a secret to cover this all up? When pig’s fly.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:40pmI hope his body was Freeze Dried and is on Display at a Secret SpecOp Museum.
Report Post »justsomesense
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:34pmSounds like another diversion to me. It is a backup incase people didn’t believe he was dumped in the sea. That would have taken an 8 hour flight by chopper from the “kill zone” to the sea. Osama died in 2001. He had marfans disease. The SEALs ( all in one chopper, not their assets) were killed to cover up the phoney op. Whitnesses across the street give a different account of what happened in that compound.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:31pmBy not releasing the pictures Obama creates the doubt.
Report Post »tweetybird
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:31pmIt doesn’t matter to me at all if Osama was buried at sea or not. If he is actually dead or not. There are still enough crazy nut jobs out there willing to take his place. So nothing really has been accomplished. The bad guy still hates us and nothing you say or do will change that. Killing Osama just gave them more of a reason to hate us. The enemy is no longer scared of America thanks to the weasel in office.
Report Post »Tom K
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:49amAs long as Bin Laden is really dead, we‘ve got our tax dollar’s worth. Now as for his body; it could be in a trophy case at the N.S.A. or the C.I.A. wearing a pig skin suit. What a trophy – just like J.F.K.’s brain.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:12amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
You support Santorum? You do know Santorum voted to raise the debt ceiling 5x don’t ya? Santorum DOUBLED the size of the BOE. Santorum supported TARP, The Patriot Act, and the NDAA.
And he’s all about smaller limited government. You truly are a Becker lol.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:27amjust got back from voting!!! in 2008 my brother-in-law voted for romney and my mother-in-law thought it was a waste of time. Today both are voting for Honest Ron
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:43amReagan raised the debt ceiling 17 times, bro. And he’s your hero.
Raising the debt ceiling is the least of Frothy’s problems. He’s a total gaffe machine intent on alienating everyone but the religious fanatics. Good luck with that. You‘ll win the South but that’s about it.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:00pmBible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American
Reagan is my hero? Really?
A hand full of our forefathers I consider ‘hero’s’, and Ron Paul a refounding father. Who the f are you to tell me Reagan is my hero? Moron.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:01pmBible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American
Reagan is my hero? Really?
A hand full of our forefathers I consider ‘hero’s’, and Ron Paul a refounding father. Who are you to tell me Reagan is my hero? You are leading the charge in this Moronathon…bro.
Report Post »supermansdad
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:53pmYep! Honest Ron. The same man that said Assange and Manning are “just whistle blowers.”
Report Post »As a former officer “Honest Ron” knows the UCMJ and knows that what Manning did was improper and illegal. He is worthless.
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:19pmFirst of all you need to think for yourself. 1. TARP was designed to be a calming FUND in reserve — OBAMA SPENT IT. Raising debt ceilings is necessitated by of SPENDING, or to keep the Debt:GDP ratio intact – OBAMA SPENT THAT TOO.
Report Post »Things are not always what they seem. These things become bad when OVERSPENDING WITHOUT BUDGETS BECAME THE NORM UNDER PELOSI/REID/OBAMA/Democrat majorities.! Likewise for Patriot act UNDER OBAMA, as the Patriot act was a matter of sniffing 1s and 0s that add up to terrorist messaging. but under Obama became “reading YOUR emails”, and control over shutting down the Internet.
You will not get this perspective from the arm chair pundits.
As for bin laden — we knew where he was all along and lost an intelligence bonanza, while obama scores fake points, AND worst of all got the informants nest and operators ARRESTED. This sends the message – “Do not assist the Americans – you will be outed, killed and your women will be raped and murdered” This is the real story behind Obama’s jihad on America!
blkbelt7
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:54pmABO & OMG (Amyone But Obama) & (Obama Must Go)
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:03amDidn’t this guy get elected to POTUS in 2008? I mean, if you shave the beard, and put him in a suit – yeah! THAT’s HIM!!!
Report Post »TheTrumanShow
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:02amPure propaganda – a continuing psy-op.
This is intended to instill in everyone’s mind that OBL was actually killed in that raid. The next point is to create (fake) outrage to change the topic from ‘if’ there was a body to ‘where’ is the body using this presumptive statement. This story also brings Obama’s lie back to the forefront for his political advantage.
Why is this ‘patriotic victory’ story resurfacing now??? Geez, last time it was Obama’s fake birth certificate. What’s happening now? Oh yeah, Obama’s fake birth certificate is being questioned again (not by GB though).
BUT, this time the accusation is coming from a much more credible source where evidence must reach a prima facia level in order to be considered serious evidence by the police.
I‘m astounded by the skill of the MSM to touch on this topic just enough to show they’re watching, but then bury it with alacrity into the background noise of very serious topics like the college student socialist demanding government-supplied contraception.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:02pmdefinitely a dog and pony show…
oooh, look here …shiny and sparkly.
wait, look at this….
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:46am.
We saw no proof he was dead. No Picture, bloody clothes Nothing. And where are the SEALs who went on the raid. We know they tried to kill them in that RPG attack.
Most likely he’s in the Lincoln Bedroom ordering Breakfast about right now…….
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:28pmThey didn’t try to kill them in the RPG attack, they did kill them. There is no proof Osama was killed there. They said they knew he was there for over 6 months before they acted. Obama probably had him shave his beard and he will be his next Islamic relations Czar
Report Post »whiffledust
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:33amMoot points all; both in article and comments as OBL died of natural causes in December 2001.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:18amIt doesn’t appear to me this guy knows any more about it than the rest of us do.
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:02amWHO CARES!
Report Post »When will you people stop believing what this administration tells you?
Why don’t you worry about something important, like how are we going to convince 80% of registered voters, who don’t vote, to do it this time. This is our last opportunity!
Ruler4You
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:09amNow, THIS doesn’t surprise me.
Think of all the pork products you could fit inside of this guy. And then return him at some ‘opportune’ future moment.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:46amit was on Drudge, headlined at 730am CT, now at 840am it is nowhere to be seen?! it is all “Super Chooseday” …. the 1001% probability of obama lying to AMERICA about UBL’s dead body is a bit more VIP to us today, in this American veterans family, than whoever the pure 100% AMERICAN pro-AMERICA gop candidate is who we will be voting for against obama in Nov.
Report Post »BuggiOlleo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:06amhuh?
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:43amIt seems to me that ultimately it doesn‘t matter what they did with UBL’s body. Because the world is still turning, America’s still bankrupt, Alqeada still exists, Iran is still seeking nukes, and life goes on. But what does matter to them is: it divides, it creates doubt in people’s minds, and distrust, and draws attention to the fact people have differing opinions.
Report Post »GMP
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:49am’nuff said
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:49amAnd it seems to me that when conspiracy theories are created it divides people. It creates a new foundation of what is true in people’s minds as many come to believe theories. It seems to me that they want power over the light and the way it is divided. It seems to me as with everything, that people should first look at the big picture, and then ask whether the little picture really matters or not.
Report Post »piper60
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:40amConspiracy theories. Would not surprise me, given fast and furious.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:36amThe USA never misses an opportunity to look or act foolish in the eyes of our allies as we struggle to look good in the eyes of our enemies .
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:30am.
Report Post »Obama probably had his body put in the Rose Garden at the White House……
Mark0331
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:35amHahaha..I figured because of Osamas’ height, Barry kept him on as a team member in the daily W.H. hoop games.
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:40amEither that, or the Obamas placed his ashes in all those commie “celebration of winter” (Christmas) tree ornaments.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:29amInteresting…we will see how this turns out. I thought Osama just changed his name,shaved and got elected here in the US…silly me.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:28amThe Deceptions of Julian Assange, WikiLeaks, and Ron Paul http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-deceptions-of-julian-assange-wikileaks-and-ron-paul/
Report Post »Kara_ite
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:31amRon Paul has been in the US Congress for 30 years, can’t you find anything better to condemn this congressman?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:39amKARA. I find things every day, all day long regarding Ron Paul. You can follow along if you like.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:41amAlex Jones and David Icke should be added to that too.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:45amDIVINE’76. Yes sir… you are correct.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:51amYou exert a lot of energy to stop a guy in who is already in last place.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:56amGONZO. Takes no energy at all…. can do right from my phone, lol.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:15amWe know who you’re against, who are you for?
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:23am@ Time, please tell me who out of the Running Republicans for President will stick to and follow the Constitution of the USA? Then tell me why you have a problem with that? Get busy.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:44amGONZO. I’m supporting Santorum and the Republican Party… which means voting for the eventual nominee of my Party when all is said and done.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:51amTEXAS. Your request is denied. I tend not to jump when a brush popper makes a demand of me. Get busy? Pfft.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:54amTime is just mad because Ron paul wouldn’t be his friend. He has nothing substantial against him and nothing to support the other candidates as being better. Time will end up in the FEMA camps with the rest. Will probably snitch out the true patriots for better treatment there.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:57amI convinced 1 person last night to NOT vote for Ron Paul. I feel like I did my civic duty and I congratulate myself. Thank you.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:58am” I’m supporting Santorum ”
So time is voting for Obama.
I bet he picked McCain as the nominee the last time.
Santorum would not get more than 30% of the votes in the general election.Besides, the Republican party and the media have already chosen Mitt, so you will be stuck with what they give you.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:01amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Is it time to debunk you again Time? Why do you put this stuff out before researching it?…I know. Beckers lack critical thinking skills.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:07amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
You see concerning Bradly Manning and the release of “classified” information… Ron Paul is all about the TRANSPARENCY, not breaking the law. BTW that “classified” information…much of it didn’t need to be classified any ways. MORE TRANSPARENCY…it’s MY MONEY. Oh and here’s some of that “classified” info Bradly Manning released:
“the US is spying on members of the UN” OMG…never seen that one coming.
In your article Ron states “This whole notion that Assange, who’s an Australian, that we want to prosecute him for treason. I mean, aren’t they jumping to a wild conclusion? This is media, isn’t it? I mean, why don’t we prosecute The New York Times or anybody that releases this?”
Well stated Dr. Paul.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:28amHIDDEN. You’re just mad because I go around the message that all Ron Paul acolytes want everyone to read/hear which is…. economics 101, and want everyne to forget/ignore all the other crap that is Ron Paul… it’s not important, or it’s just your imagination, or it simply never happened, or…..” Lmao.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:29amCAPTAIN…. Good JOB!! Lol.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:33amIANMCOO2. Did someone stop the oxygen to your space helmet again?
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:32pmTime-
Report Post »You either support constitutional government or you do not. That is the only issue that matters.
None of the other candidates give a rats patooty about the constitution or freedom.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:08pmHIDDEN. History is full of “principled” men that could not see further than their noses and did great harm to themselves and to their country. IMO , Ron Paul is one of those men.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:23pm@ TIME My point is made. Yet you belittle yourself by trying to make fun of my hobbies? Do you have the maturity level of a 4 year old? Granted I am giving you credit of a couple years. There is one reason that you fear Paul. Be man enough to talk about it. The house floor is yours. Get busy.
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:25amI hope they feed the caucus to the hogs!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:28amHe might even be taking it easy on a beach in Miami,stranger things have happened. Did Andrew Breitbart really have a heart attack?
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:24am“But a couple notes of caution. The information included in the latest bin Laden accusation does come from Russia Today, which has long been accused of dabbling in propaganda for the Russian government, and the outlet did not release the entire email exchange.”
“Additionally, the emails seem only to be the theory of a select individual (or individuals), not that of the entire organization or that of the U.S. government.”
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:27amIt was Stalin who sowed disinformation as to the fate of Hitler. Given the source, possibly Putin or his minions are up to the same tricks here.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:37amRussian network host boasts of ‘money bomb’ for Ron Paul http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/334753/
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:13amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Santorum? You do know Santorum voted to raise the debt ceiling 5x don’t ya? Santorum DOUBLED the size of the BOE. Santorum supported TARP, The Patriot Act, and the NDAA.
And he’s all about smaller limited government. You truly are a Becker lol.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:23amFred Burton, believes…
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