Repub: Violent Overthrow of the Gov‘t is ’On the Table’
- Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:11am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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On Thursday, Texas Republican congressional candidate Stephen Broden said he would not rule out violent overthrow of the government if America continues down its current path.
In an interview with WFAA-TV, the Dallas Morning News reports, Broden said that a violent uprising “is not the first option,“ but it is ”on the table.”
According to both reports, the sentiment expressed in the interview is similar to ideas expressed in the past.
In 2009, Broden said that there is a solution to tyranny: “We have a constitutional remedy. And the Framers say if that don’t work, revolution.”
It was in response to a question regarding that statement that he said revolution is a viable option: “Our nation was founded on violence; the option is on the table. I don’t think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms. However, it is not the first option.”
“If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary,” Broden added.
Broden has caught the media’s eye before. In 2009 he said that the financial crises was “contrived” and “set up” by the Obama administration, and compared America’s complacency today to the Jews under Hitler. In yesterday’s interview, however, he backpedaled on both statements.
But he didn’t back down on his statements about revolution. Consequently, those comments have drawn criticism from local GOP leaders. The Morning News reports that Jonathan Neerman, head of the Dallas County Republican Party, called Broden’s comments a “disappointing, isolated incident.” He said he will be discussing the matter with Broden’s campaign.
Broden, a pastor, faces Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Texas’s 30th district near Dallas.
Editor’s note: this story has been updated.
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Comments (586)
janddjohnson
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:31amIts not just an option, its our “duty” if all else fails.
Report Post »Timmer1973
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:46amAmen!
Report Post »Pericles
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:04pmNo it’s not. If all else fails then run for office. If the American people wish to have different leadership then it will change with the ballot box not violence. You sound like a bully, if you can not have it your way I will beat you up. Really, is this second grade. Please grow up.
Report Post »Eraty Bab
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:30amWhere do I sign up?, I’m ready.
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:40amYou signed up when you became a citizen. :)
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:30amViolence is never an option – sorry I have to disagree with all of you on this one. Our country is no where close to the point where revolution should even be discussed. The political system has served us well – and that is the way to bring about any change.. http://wp.me/pYLB7-dI
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:57amWALK
Keep looking behind you.
George, Thomas, Samuel ,John, and many others , may beg to differ about Revolution against the King not being necessary
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:58amWell WALKWITHME, this country was born from violence, required to break the stranglehold of British Tyranny. As I understand it, we asked them all kind of ways nicely mind you, to leave us the hell alone, but they, like you and your Comrades just wouldn’t take no for an answer. Exact same situation.
So to quote one of your heros Chairman Mao, “All true POWER comes from the barrel of a gun!” All you folks of the communist persuasion are about to find out exactly what that means.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:09amWalk, I side with you on OFFENSIVE action BUT not defensive action. Would you bow down to tyrants rather than resisting. As for me, give me liberty of GIVE ME DEATH.. IN BATTLE.
Is defensive violence approriate when Obama and Co declare a Ntaional Emergency which results oin martial law and suspension of the Constitution?
Problem is that one doesn’t wait to prepare for DEFENSIVE action until martial law is declared. One MUST be trained in defensive GUERILLA warfare.
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:23amCon
Report Post »On Nov 2nd you have to get off that high fence you sit on. your posts always seem to have that “ need a way out” feeling. Have a feeling you will be voting for Ross Perot. Hope not
Sailor
Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:33amSailor ?????? why such an attack on me????? I’ve never missed voting even when I served in the USAF in Germany. I’ve run for NC Governor in 2000 on the Reform Party ticket… yes Ross Perot’s party.
You seem to have forgotten that Ross spent his own money to rescue his employees who were prisoners in the ME. How many times has that happened in USA history?. Even our military couldn’t do that successfully.
And yes, I would stand beside those who have the guts to defend against tyranny even at the cost of my life.
So what specifically is your beef with me? Lay it on the table. OK?
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:50amCon Thanks for you service
Report Post »It was not exactly an Attack. More a question. If I remember, you posted that you like to” stir the pot.” If that wasn’t you, sorry
Vote in Nov
gzpanic
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 7:49pmYou are dreaming. The “political system” is what has been ruining this country for over 100 years. The further we get away from UNALEINABLE RIGHTS” the worse off we are. What state do you live in by the way? Our founders wouldn’t reconize this country, and might be the ones ready to take up arms against the Dumbocrats and the Repugnacans!! Violence should be the LAST option but STILL AN OPTION!!!!! FREEDOM
Report Post »Natalie76
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 1:30amWALKWITHME tries to come off as somehow reasonable and even handed, fair and balanced, but she then on her site trashes Glenn and FoxNews, to the point of PROMOTING the ginned up boycott campaign against them:
http://maboulette.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/drop-fox/
If you were actually upfront and honest about your intentions here, fine, but you’re being duplicitous. We’ve got your number, Mary Ann.
Report Post »1stzookid
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:30amLet’s take back our Constitutional rights.
I agreed. Stick to your words Mr. Broden
Report Post »felina g
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:30amWe just need to stand up. There are more of us than there are of them.
Report Post »Amerigo Vespucci
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:29amAdopted by Congress July 1776: US Declaration of Independence
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”
More poetic and thoughtful words do not exist in US History.
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:27am“I’m hungry for some unrest. Let’s push it beyond the peaceful protest. I wanna speak in a language they they’ll understand.” -Muse
Report Post »rabidamerican
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:26amWe are told that we need to ignore the marxist takeover of our country….. that it’s all a fallacy…. That the leftists only mean well for our lives …..
We are told to avoid physical resistance, and violent retribution, at all cost……. not to protect ourselves…… not to preemptively strike out at our enemies…….
So… When we act like doormats, can we then complain if we are tread upon???
ENOUGH!!!
Report Post »GunnyB
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:14amNow that is the attitude our founding father’s wanted passed on to us. It’s why they specifically stated our right to relieve ourselves of abusive govenments that may evolve over time in our country.
Report Post »katherynm
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:24amI‘m not sure who you’re listening to, but there‘s no one around here telling anyone to ignore what’s going on. If you want to fall into the trap that they’re laying, step ahead. Violence is what they want. “We will overcome” isn’t a marching cadence. Even this man says that all other options must be exhausted before revolution.
Report Post »Incidentally, in watching this video, I have to wonder what was edited out. There were abrupt clips that sounded as if he was about to launch into further clarification regarding several of the questions.
M31Sailor
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:43amKathrynM
Report Post »First they came for the Jews
I did not speak out because i was not a Jew
Then they came for the Conservatives
I did not speak out because I am not a Conservative
Then they came for the Business Owners
I did not speak out because i don’t own a business
Then they came for me and there was no
one left to speak for me
Vote in November
GunnyB
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:46amI don‘t believe it’s a trap that the liberals are setting. I believe it’s an in your face challenge. What they are saying is, either step up and stop us, or we will take over this country and turn transform it into a Socialist Republic.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:52amKAT IMO provides a great warning voice. The PTB wnat to provoke us to OFFENSIVE violence. IMO, if “Patriots” took offensive violence, the people would side with the Govt. Don’t fall into that trap as Glenn warns us over and over again.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 7:03pmGunnyB said: “I don‘t believe it’s a trap..”
It is psychological warfare, something commies are very good at. The last thing they want is a confrontation, because they would lose — at this stage anyway. Totalitarian regimes cannot exercise tyranny unless they achieve subjugation. So they have to exercise a measure of violence to subjugate, and, concomitantly, make false accusations of violence against We the People to intimidate and keep us on the defensive. It’s a win-win tactic, UNLESS We the People see through it, denounce it, resist the state media pressure, and fight back.
Neo-communism does not engage in overnight suppression of freedoms. They divert and distract to avoid an effective backlash during the incipient and more fragile transformation stages. In other words, bloody revolutions are too risky, and doomed to serious political and/or economic repercussions in a global world.
The commies’ deadliest and most effective modern revolutionary weapon is the media: massive indoctrination, massive disinformation, massive intimidation and massive defamation of dissenters. But don’t be deceived. Although blood is rarely spilled, these are aggressive and invasive methods of achieving a takeover.
Please, DO NOT BUY into the “State Capitalism” cr*p. It’s a commie euphemism to make people believe that communism is dead. Similar to the liberal turned “progressive.”
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:25amI am surprised this is the first time I saw this video, you would think the lame stream would have picked this up and run with it to prove we are ALL violent. kinda messes with thier racist thing though.
Report Post »SouthLAConservative
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:25amI do not believe that violence is the answer. I think that there are those on the progressive side that are goading people and just looking for an excuse to institue the next phase of their plans. Follow the Martin Luther King Jr and Ghandi non violence plan, not the current riot in the streets plan we see overseas.
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:38amOur current situation is where the non-violent approach has led us. We will make one more attempt at this by voting on November 2nd. After that, you better keep your head down, cause the lame duck session is gonna bring it all to a head.
Report Post »just happy
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:08amour approach was not “non-Violent” itr was apathy and lack of responsibility. On nov 3, every thing will not be “lets go on vacation or to a concert, etc. It has to be ” oK, now lets see you do WHAT YOU CAMPAIGNED ON ” AND our responsibility has to personally hold ALL of them accountable– EVERY DAY —— forever!!!
Report Post »megaman
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:24amyeah I agree we fought wars to preserve our freedom if we have to fight against our own government well do what we have 2 do but of course have to take the non violence approach first
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:32amThe “nonviolent approach” happens November 2nd. Let’s see what they do with their lame duck session. If they do what we think they’re gonna do, it’s gonna be time to uphold the responsibilities laid out for us by the Declaration of Independence.
Report Post »awizard
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:24amYea, I think Borak, Harry, and Nancy might just be capable of anything to get their way …
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:37amI also agree with that and have stated in a number of postings; however, it also was rightfully pointed out a part I overlooked – the military will turn upon anyone seeking to overthrow our constitution in a heartbeat and smash the dictator wannabe into the sand.
I pray for the Almighty to guide our country safely.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)
Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:18amSnow, yes some will but some who have been brainwashd will shoot citizens. A few years ago, A Navy Officer was getting his master’s degree. His thesis was about how the military felt about the growing dangers of a NWO. One of the questions in the survey asked, “If your commander asked you to shoot citizens who wouldn’t give up their guns, would you obey orders?” About 34% said YES. And these were Marines. Semper Fi
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 6:09pmsnowleopard3200: the military will turn upon anyone seeking to overthrow our constitution in a heartbeat and smash the dictator wannabe into the sand.
Obama is well aware of that, and he has plans: demoralize and desocialize our troops fighting abroad; defund/downsize the military; build a civilian army, and infiltrate the high ranks with his own so the troops are brainwashed and under his control. Let‘s pray he doesn’t gain ground. God bless our military.
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:23amThat is definitely a “last resort, if ALL else fails, do or die, doomsday” type of scenario that I hope will NEVER have to be considered.
Report Post »shanaleyann
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:22amThe 4 Boxes of freedom, to be used in order.
1. The Soap Box
Report Post »2. The Ballot Box
3. The Jury Box
4. The Ammunition Box
Darth_Soros
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:21amGood. Give in to your anger.
Report Post »adifftake
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:33amHey darthy baby why not look at my additional comments below.
Report Post »StMichelob
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:50amLol…I got the sarcasm…AND the movie quote, given your screen name.
….I HOPE it was just sarcasm, anyway.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:58am@Darth Soros…
You forgot the next line…
“Vader…what are you doing…what do you mean they bribed you with more money…uh…”
Report Post »Beer Party Patriot
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:24pmAWESOME avatar!
Report Post »adifftake
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:20amHe IS right! The Declaration states that fact quite clearly. It if one of our God Given rights to throw off a destructive government when it is destructive of our liberties.
Report Post »shanaleyann
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:20amWhen the threat to our livelihood is large enough, and the threat to our freedom and our childrens’ freedom is serious, everything must be an option, and we must all prepare. As the saying goes… Prepare for War but Pray for Peace
Report Post »KCMOConservative
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:20amNPR just fired him.
Report Post »where is JG
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:20amAll we got left is the 2nd amendment and with Hillary using UNICEF and Sotomeyor in the SC, it will not be long before they come for our last AMERICAN RIGHT NOT TAKEN FROM US. So… If you want to understand this leftist take-over just watch them try. It will be the left that will start it and blame it on the right. ITS OBVIOUS! they are dividing us by race, religion, gun ownership, and AMERICAN VALUES. Batten down the hatches good americans. The revolutionaries are at our doors. Battle them back with your voice at the polls on 11/2. That is when the real american take back of our rights BEGINS
Report Post »nbarendt
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:02amI could not have said it better myself AMEN
Report Post »Juan Gault
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:11pmNov 02 is exactly that citizen,a good BEGINNING. We the people are finally awake, but “our” work has just begun. This will take time,to undo what has been done, over the last 100 years,more or less.
Take a look at this proud marine, singing at a tea party,watch the gathering,awaken to his words. We the people are beginning the journey, to return to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/06/07/watch-marine-stuns-crowd-tea-party
Semper fidelis!
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:20amViolence should ALWAYS be the last resort. Let’s take our fight to the ballot box but with all the cheating going on it will take ALL conservatives showing up to counteract it. SO GO VOTE PEOPLE, I DID ALREADY.
Report Post »Proud American in Buffalo
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:06amUnfortunately I am afraid that a confrontation between We the People, and thoes who hold the power in this country is inevitable. It is up to the people to dictate which direction America wants to go in. God Help Us if we choose the wrong path.
Report Post »TEXAS
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:20amIf you listen to THE PEOPLE this is not an “isolated incident”.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:46amYessir, here in Texas it is discussed everyday, in great detail, by almost everyone that isn’t on the Government dole. In fact the discussion passed the “IF” point some time ago, and is now solely about “WHEN”. Whatever it takes, we are ready anytime.
Texas Freemen realize that we will have to become a Sovereign Nation once again, before too much longer.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:03amI’m curious. How is the secessionaist movement going? That IMO is a better option than armed revolt. I would move to TX in an instant if you seceded and would defend your ight to do peacefully but would take up arms in defense of your right. And I’m 69. Maybe help in logistics? (grin)
Report Post »microace
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:19amStephen Brodin is the most virtuous man I’ve ever met and what he said is exactly right, even Thomas Jefferson said it was our duty to overthrow tyrants. Brodin never says that he supports overthrowing the government, he just states that it should always be on the table, because it is our right as Americans to keep the government in check. I’ll wager that Brodin has forgotten more about the constitution than Jonathan Neerman knows.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:13amMI, I take it you know him personally? In what capacity?
FYI, I’m familiar with him. How? I was helping one his GOP opponents in the GOP primary who when he lost fully endorsed the good Reverand. I almost came to that district in my RV to help my friend.
A very small world afterall. IMO, it will be Texans who save our Constitutional Republic.
Report Post »microace
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:38pmCONTRARIANTHINKER I’ve known him since before he ever decided to run for office. We have a 912 group in Fort Worth and he has spoken many times at our meetings and rallies. The clips they show in the video are clips from speeches that he made long before he decided to try and unseat the unholy, criminal Eddie Bernice Johnson. This man would be an asset to Congress, cause he understands what the oath they take means and he understands why our rights are god given and do not come from the Government.
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:04pmWhen an elected or appointed government continually dishonors the Constitution by which it should govern, citizens have the right to question it’s motives and demand restauration of the Consitutional law on which this country was founded. Fundamental change in America according to the current administration evidently means destruction of all our American values. Revolution should be the last option, but it is an option that shouldn’t be ruled out if tyrany becomes a threat to liberty.
Report Post »john seven eighteen
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:18amRemeber all the small town patriots clinging to their God and their guns? Yeah, buddy!
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:40am@John 7:18
Thanks for the insight of the military, I overlooked that. It also seems we need to tell people if there is to be any revolution it must be a peaceful one – like Ghandi did to finally free India from the British.
Again thanks.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:44amOh yes
Report Post »nosycophant
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:09pmSNOWLEAPORD3200 I think if you distributed those people with horns pictures it would quell any chances of violence and the power of “mix art” would prevail oh and yeah some cowboy pictures would also probably help as well.
Report Post »ColoradoTaxpayer
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:27pm(paraphrasing Ghandi) We don’t hate you we just want you to leave.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 4:41pmsnowleopard3200 said: “…we need to tell people if there is to be any revolution it must be a peaceful one – like Ghandi did to finally free India from the British.”
Snowleopard3200, I am 100% with you, provided you stop quoting Ghandi and the Brits as an example of peaceful victory over tyranny. Show me where COMMIES have been deposed peacefully, and I will follow the Ghandi strategy. See, Glenn et al. will not convince people who are familiar with communism that Reds (or Islamists, since they have openly stated they will take over America as well) are the same as Brits. I deeply appreciate your patriotism, but that’s what I call “crazy,” Glenn et al. Nobody is talking about anarchic hate/violence a la left. We are talking about defending freedom a la America the Beautiful.
Report Post »calebgs83
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 6:11pmI assume everyone read the post about the Chinese woman who was severely beaten by police and forced by the government to abort her baby at 8 months pregnant…is it righteous to be peaceful in the face of such evil…HELL NO!
Report Post »lobster
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:17amThis is a good man. It may be way on down the option list, but it must remain. Look what happened to Chaing Kai Shek in China 60+ years ago.
Report Post »cruisemates
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:00pmIn all honesty, I cannot get behind this guy. I want to be really clear about what I am saying.
This guy is talking exactly like someone who is mesmerized by Glenn Beck in the wrong way, planned chaos by communists in hiding in order to disrupt the system and eventually bring down the government – Cloward & Piven, right?
Yes, I believe there is an element of that happening, Glenn has shown us that. BUT do you really think the answer is violence? Is that what Glenn Beck is saying? I don’t think so.
I think Glenn has shown us how dangerous SOME people in power are right now. But, I also think this is an anomaly. I do NOT think even the majority of left-wing democrats truly support socialism.
The part you are missing is that this is a very tiny group of people that has somehow gotten far more power than we ever expected. They did it through stealth, waiting and their ability to remain underground yet still communicate. The Internet helped them discover one another, but now it is has also exposed them. These people will end up being an asterik in history, like the 1920s American Communist Party. Socialism surprised us with a brief resurgence, who ever expected that, I sure as hell didn’t?
BUT – we will fight these people back easily, through elections and spreading our message through the Internet, teaching our children and our churches.
What is happening now does not deserve violence, that would be too disruptive to America and frankly it makes this board sound a bit whacko – exactly the way the left wants you to sound.
When I hear a message like this I feel it is my duty to say “Violence? Never on our soil unless they actually suspend the Constitution and free elections.”
If this country goes down the socialist path through free elections I would just leave it. It would not be worth my life to fight mass idiocracy. But I don’t honestly think that is what is happening. I think the majority of democrats are as shocked as we are at what has happened to this country, and if they are not already, they certainly will be by 2012 if we are not able to restore sanity. Those are not the people you see on Daily Kos and other libblogs, the politically motivated socialists. Most democrats are just people who don’t really pay attention to politics and actually think its all just a utopian concept anyway.
This country has been screwed up before – look at Jimmy Carter. But he led to Ronald Reagan – a 180-degree turn-around. We didn’t need violence to fix that problem. Have faith in the American spirit that people will see the light, and think long-term.
Report Post »1776Federalist
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:26pmCruisemates, Glenn Beck does not advocate any violence. He advocates the Ghandi approach. The founding fathers are the ones who put this down as a possibility when they formed our country. That is a major reason for the 2nd Amendment. If you read their writings, you will see that they were afraid of a tyrannical government that would trample our rights and liberties underfoot. Look at the intrusions into our privacy, the restrictions placed on our freedoms and our free markets, the social programs the government has given us, and countless other offenses committed against our lives. It is necessary for it to always be on the table, or the government will have no fear of us at all, and will rule in tyranny and oppression.
Report Post »cruisemates
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:51pmOf course violence is always on the tyable as an option – so is mass suicide and assasinations, but do we really need to be talking about it? No.
I don’t want to talk about Glenn like he is some kind of messianic leader, he is just another extremely well-informed partriot/journalist.
I just don’t think this person, running for office, was smart to advocate violence in any form considering what he is trying to accomplish – winning a peaceful election. That is a wrong tactic that will work against him and hence our goal to win as many seats as possible. This guy does not represent my beliefs for THIS election.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 4:06pmCruisemates: The part you are missing is that this is a very tiny group of people that has somehow gotten far more power than we ever expected.
Cruisemates, dear fellow patriot, open your eyes. Radicals are ALWAYS a very tiny group. Here’s the problem: they don’t play by the rules. Let me give you another modern example besides Obama: Muslim extremists. Look at what they have accomplished, and they are a tiny group too (relative to the whole population of Muslims). How do you think these tiny groups become so powerful? Actually, there are two ways. The Muslim way — by the sword — is brutal and bloody. Communists, however, no longer engage in bloody subjugation. Well, they do, but it is a last resort.
Despite their dissimilar means of attaining power, we can learn one thing from both types of tyranny, and that is that they do not go away peacefully — never. They have to be forcefully removed. There MIGHT be a chance in a very strong and free Republic like ours to fight back using nonviolent means, but once they have gained control of the executive power, it is probably too late to succeed. We must surely try, but if in so doing we fail, we need to reread Patrick Henry’s speech and decide how precious liberty is.
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:22pmYes at some point we must say “there is a price we will not pay. There is a point beyond witch you must not pass” Reagen.
I don’t think its soon but if they came for your guns would you resist. What about your healthcare, childes education, income, liberty, vote, at what point is violence against the state justified?
Its a question we should all think about. Washington must know that a cornered dog will attack.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:12amHe may be on to something.
Report Post »woodsdog
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:18amYou got it. Give me liberty or give me . . . .
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:22am“Broden has caught the media’s eye before. In 2009 he said that the financial crises was “contrived” and “set up” by the Obama administration”
Not set up, but continued under the current administration.
Report Post »ItsallaboutJesus
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:23amI don’t doubt what he says, for sure!
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:24amRevolution must always be the LAST OPTION only when all means have failed..and I do mean all means as provided by the Constitution and by the Law and Courts!!! – and when violence was proposed upon the new government – George Washington said that the people of the Revolution had just thrown away the shackels of one tyrant for the shackels of another.
Revolution must be done like that of Ghandi – Change through Peaceful Means. If violence is used by the people then we become like every other country who has been torn apart the same way, one time or another other people will do the same thing when the precident is set.
God help us to avoid that happening and save our country.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (art)
moonpeace
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:39amI sure hope the majority of us would consider an uprising under specific circumstances. It just might be necessary if our government is taking us down the wrong track and they are apathetic to the people’s wishes. I guarantee I would fight before I would give in to living my life certain ways. I don’t bother anybody. I live my life according to laws and my own beliefs. It happens that my beliefs are conservative, and I have a right to those beliefs. And I will fight to the bitter end,never backing down should somebody mess with my family or what belongs to my family. Live and let live.
Report Post »gobluebuckeye
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:39amI agree with him. We created the most liberating form of government this world has ever know, and Damn us if we allow ourselves to watch it slip into Oblivion because we justify it little by little. The Night of Broken Glass did not just happen, there was a lot of steps that led up to it.
Wake up people we have a socialist government
Report Post »Peters
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:40amWe just saw this all play out . . . Juan Williams vs. NPR
It appears political correctness is making a stand . . . and now it’s the GOP of Texas joining the ranks of NPR in isolating one from their freedoms . . . isolating truth from reality.
Report Post »ME
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:42amnice to see someone else is not blind and even if the republicans win a hundred seats on Nov. 2nd do you really think they will do a better job then 1994? Do you think they have changed? We may stave of the dogs for a few more years but I have no faith in republicans changing the “tide” may slow it but it will take more then they offer or are willing to do. Term limits and tea party, libertarians, and more I hate the only options being chocolate or vanilla both parties have done nothing but move us towards socialism one it just much faster.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:43amI feel strongly that he does and just one of the first to finally be addressing the issue outright. GOD help us all if he even wants to anymore the way we keep slapping him in the face.
RCScrolls
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:48amTwll me when where, and Im there, where do I sign.
I did this once before remember Vietnam, to protect Her from enemies abroad
or domestically. Right here right now here we come.
USA ROCKS the world
Report Post »StMichelob
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:55amDid anyone notice how channel 8 news cut off his taped replies either mid-clause, or just before the explaination of a direct answer? Looks to me like a typical leftist news hatchet job. But they would NEVER do that….would they Glenn?
itasca
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:07amRead the Declaration of Independence
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:15amAs long as we keep our original Constitution, I’m in. Every further encroachment on our freedom by these boobs in DC is like salt being rubbed in a festering wound. I will die fighting before allowing myself to be ruled by morons and lying thieves.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:17amYou’d be hard pressed to find a doctor, particularly an oncologist in this country who does not recommend end of life counseling. Ask yours! And the concept that insurance companies pay your doctor (not a governmental panel) to have end of life counseling is a secret plot by the government to kill your grandmother is tin foil hat stuff. It’s a triumph of anger over reason. Ask your doctor!
Maybe I’m clueless, but I haven’t lost any of my freedoms. I haven’t been sent to a FEMA concentration camp or anything. Every other western democracy in the world has universal health care, and to my knowledge none of those countries are totalitarian dictatorships.
Seems kind of crazy to talk about overthrowing a duly elected government just because they want to help “the least of us.”
PlaneRick
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:34amSNOWLEOPARD3200 is dead on in his thought. Such action would surely destroy the great country along with the Constitution so many have sworn to protect, uphold, and given there lives in doing so. These thoughts come not only from our heart, but the matter of being this country has made it on this long on and cause such a love of country.
For one, whether it individual or minority group, to assmue that such current state of being is cause of violent revolution only reflects an underlying arrogance, the willful ignorance of facts and truth in history and thought.
Ignorance of the strength of which country is made. History has shown such. Then there is the matter that any officer in the military service should be aware, war, as with any violent action, is only the failure of politicians and diplomats. But that this refers to action foreign to the self-governance of the ENTIRE population.
In the republic for which we love, if peaceful and civil revolution does not ever succeed, then most likely of all, the faulty lies in the thoughts and reasoning of those revolting. If your reasoning and evidence is not strong enough to at least sway governance to recognize your position, then it is necessary to self examine with fervor your own position’s validity relative to the entire population.
In other words, if you can not sway the population though reasoning and logic, then your position is either illogical and irrational or you haven’t expressed it properly.
Violent action in a civil society and government for such reasons is only done to make one feel better and can never strengthen a people in any aspect, even God’s. This is the least of what Jesus’s actions has shown.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:42amJZS; Tell you what. Doctors once believed in bloodletting to cure almost every illness. I would NOT put almost any MD that you’re describing up against a man of God. If you have a death wish, so be it. You are IMO also ignoring history of the Eugenics people that Glenn has warned us about over and over again. I’m 69, IF I get to the point that to live further would be stupid, I will make that decsision, not some MD or some politician.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:42amJZS, people like you really make me sick. The fact that you would justify bureaucratic death panels (yes, death panels) reveals a lot about your character. We’re talking about a “healthcare” plan devised by that slimeball in the White House who wouldn‘t spend money to replace his grandmother’s hip because it wouldn’t be cost effective. End of life counseling by bureaucratic death panels may not be a secret plot, but those panels will be used to tell the elderly and infirm that their lives are not worth the money it would take to keep them alive.
As far as being clueless, you definitely are. Did you know that right now, you are probably violating at least a dozen regulations and laws? The reason the tax code is 70,000+ pages long is because it makes all Americans criminals, who can be arrested for tax evasion if they get out of line. If you don’t believe me, ask Christine O’Donnell, who suddenly became of interest to the IRS when she ran against Biden in ’08 and again when she ran against the GOP establishment favorite in the Republican primary in ‘10. Maybe you don’t realize the freedoms you’ve lost, because you know nothing about the Constitution or about America’s founding.
Report Post »Red Neckerson
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:46amYeah JSS just look at the quality of health care they have in those other so called civalized countries with socialist healthcare. I know of NO other country in the world were people flock to for quality care other than the United States. People in those countries stand in lines to be seen in clinics. They die by the hundreds waiting for government approved treatment. Doctors quit practicing in those countries and come to the US to make a decent living. How many American doctors do you know working in third world countries, very few.
I should NOT have to pay for health care for lazy ass people who don’t work. Get up get a job and support yourself and family. Contribute to the economy instead of feeding off welfare the nanny state government gives out. Then purchase your insurance the same damn way I do, PAY FOT IT.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:47amPlane, a very thoughtful post. Thank you.
Are you advocating that if the government decides to take away our guns and place “problem makers, i.e. Constitutionalists” in reeducation camps and send armed people to do this…. that you would willingly give up your weapons and peacefully be interned?
IF anyone here is adovocating OFFENSIVE armed violence, IMO you trerad o0n very dangerous gorund.. in fact, so much so that you might find me as your enemy. BUT…. defensive armed resistence is righteous and necessry to bring down tyrany
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:03pm@ Planerick and Snowleopard…..I guess both of you forgot how this all started. A REVOLUTION! Usually I enjoy your comments but I think you two are wrong on this. Our independence was made with blood and if it takes it again I will be there.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:05pmLTB, if I make you sick, perhaps you should see your doctor. Ask him about end of life counseling while your there. And maybe read this beforehand:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/10/sarah-palin/sarah-palin-barack-obama-death-panel/
Greatest health care system in the world? Glenn Beck doesn’t think so. Listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVU1qvMqk3g
We have the best doctors, hospitals and technology for certain. If you’re rich, you have access to that care. But for healthcare for the average person is pretty poor, as Beck makes clear in his video.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:09pmContrarianthinker, I guess we need to ask ourselves when the Jews should have started fighting back against the socialists in Hitler’s Germany… When Hitler started manipulating elections? When the Nazis banned opposition parties? When the Nazis started comparing Jews to rats? When the Nazis started labeling Jews as insane? The day after Kristallnacht? The day the Nazis started telling Jews to move into the ghettos? When the Nazis started shipping the Jews to concentration camps? When the Nazis started shoving the Jews into gas chambers? You tell me.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:20pmJZS, my health insurance sucks. Basically, it covers me if I get a catastrophic illness and costs my family owned business $300/mo., while I pay a $2,500 deductible plus 20% up to $10,000 out of pocket. Even so, I don’t want my neighbors chipping in so I can get better insurance and I certainly don’t want bureaucrats telling me how to take care of myself. If you have a problem with America’s health care system and think there are better systems out there – move.
Report Post »911
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:28pmI’m ready
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:35pmLTB, thanks for the suggestion to leave the country, but I think I’ll stay.
I’m genuinly sorry your health insurance is lousy. A lot of people have lousy health insurance. I’d just like you and everybody to have better healthcare, even if the insurance companies make a little less. I happy for people and companies to get rich, but at some point you have to start taking up for the little guy and say, for example, you can‘t simply drop someone’s insurance because they make a claim you don’t want to pay.
Report Post »RantNationDotCom
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:40pmThose who govern us need to remember that it’s ALWAYS on the table. It says so on our nation’s Birth Certificate.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:45pmHe is stating the obvious if one reads the founding docs. Our founders understood tyranny and also knew the only way to escape it was to wage revolution against it.
Report Post »rebel
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:49pmalways the last last last last last option
“ruled by morons and lying thieves.”
Report Post »we’re not there 100% but dear god it feels like it
ltb
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:50pmJZS, I’m not sorry that my health insurance is lousy, because I rarely go to the doctor and this policy suits me just fine. It’s called “free enterprise” – I spend as much as I am willing to get as much as I can afford and if I can’t afford it I don’t buy it. I guess in your world, you spend as much of your neighbor’s money as you want to buy things you can’t afford – that’s called “theft.”
Report Post »chubster
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:56pmgod help us if it gets to that point ’cause we ain‘t tote’n muzzle loaders anymore…
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 12:59pmThis is one of the few areas where I disagree with Beck. Beck says you must never fight violence with violence or you will ultimately lose.
A man can only take so much. Metaphorically speaking, I will give someone the first punch for free. But if they persist I will counter their offense with disproportionate means and persist until the threat has stopped.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:13pmI agree…he’s right! When our Founders formed this country they left us with the option to overthrow it…2nd amendment to Constitution..right to bear arms so that we CAN overthrow it!
Report Post »PlaneRick
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:15pmCONTRARIANTHINKER,
Report Post »I appreciate the civility, but am offended to be painted with the assumption that I am advocating for loss of all firearms or for the obviously imaginary reeducation camps conspiracy lovers keep speaking.
I am secure int that fact that it is my constitutional right as defined by the U.S’s. and my state’s Constitution, that has been repeatedly and clearly affirmed and specified by the U.S. Supreme Court. I would defend these entities along with the rest of the United States with my life and actions.I’ve taken the Oath as to such.
To BULLCOP34: I am very well aware of the origins of our nations, but you seem to neglect the more recent history of violent uprising and dissent against the federal government that only confirmed the strength of this nation and the Constitution.
to everyone: To think that the current state of affairs, especially in government and society, are justly comparable to the context of the Revolutionary War or Civil War is blind to the lessons learned and the full history of their origins. We can’t let the extremists (on both the left and right) or fallacious conspiracies cloud our judgement of reality when they clearly are baseless and only-self-serving when viewed with a sound mind.
independentvoteril
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:16pmTo be sure he IS correct in his statement.. however.. it is the LAST course of action..which is WHY the UN is so insistent that our weapons be taken from us..it is also why it will never happen.. One should not put the last resort out there.. the GOVERNMENT is aware it and are hoping we the people forget.. after all they really believe their on propaganda that the American people are stupid and need to be told what to do..Fact is they are finding out more and more Americans are thinking more clearly now than ever before and the left is SCARED..
Report Post »liberty4cross
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:17pmDoesn’t Beck constantly remind us to “know what you believe.” Violence is what the enemies of our country want, peace is the answer. They will divide and conquer if we do not “know what we believe”
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:23pmI don’t like violence but this is what happens when we allow a Kenyan-born socialist to steal the presidency.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:28pmThis is why the govt is so fearful of the “Oathers” because they pledge their very lives to uphold the Constitution and our Laws above the potential of the govt being taken from within as it has been gradually occurring over the years.
While the military may be under the Executive Branch, the military will NEVER allow some form of Oligargy/Tyrant attempt to seize control of the country under martial law… In other words, the military will defend the Constitution if the President and/or Congress go directly against it…
Why do you think the President continually talks about a “Civilian Military”… it would be one NOT sworn to the Constitution, but instead sworn solely to the President only, his own private police and military.
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 1:53pm@CAPITALISMROCKS, you are right. A civilian army would become Obama‘s equivalent to Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard who were separate from the regular army and were devoted solely to him.
Report Post »meisterschaft
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:02pmU got it! Lets go!
We are ALL a “well armed militia”, we WILL take our country back by force if necessary! God help us ALL.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:02pmLBT, you pay far, far less than the rich for the schools your children attend, the construction and maintenance of the road in front of your house, support of the military and everything else the government does to “promote the general interest.” So don’t talk about theft, unless you’re willing to put yourself in that category. You are on the receiving end of the existing tax structure my friend, not the giving end.
Report Post »PlaneRick
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:16pmto CAPITALISMROCKS:
Report Post »My oath was for military service and, if you have taken it yourself you should know, it is to “support and defend”. Your statement is cherry-picking the Constitution for those offices are part of the Constitution that I swore to support. Your assumption that either Branch would “go directly against” the Constitution is only opinion with no credence. Let alone, attacking either one would be against the spirit of the law and directly against my sworn oath.
Your assertion that “the President continually talks about a ‘Civilian Military’ ” are just an example of the extremism I commented on earlier with such a baseless conspiracy. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between a call to join civil services, such as the Peace Corps, and a call to join an armed military, such as the Army, only illustrates the fact that not only are you chasing ghosts, but that your willingness to believe something that extreme doesn’t require an equally extreme amount of proof. Until I see proof of such wild claims that is just as extreme, these conspiracies are wholly baseless and a total waste of time. They are just a diversion by those who think they know better, but still can’t lead or explain a better way. Worse off yet are those who lend conspiracies credibility by trying to speak to the “finer points” rather show that the claims are complete bunk.
gracentruth
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:23pmMr. Broden was correct the first time. Please, stick to the truth.
Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:25pmThat one way to get your phones tapped.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:29pmThose not willing to die for freedom do not deserve it.
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure.”
Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »inlaymensterms
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:48pmAmen Rev….
Report Post »Ken
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:48pmPrecisely why we must vote out the far left degenerates!
Report Post »Pericles
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:48pmNo he is not on to something. Everyone else who espouses the same crap are loons. If you don’t like the way things are ran then vote, and if you or your candidate did not win too bad get over it.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:00pmPlanerick,
Report Post »Can you be plain, please, and let me know where you stand? It all boils down to one simple question: Is Obama a Marxist, yes or no?
Major Infidel
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:20pmYes yes yes!
Report Post »theaton
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:26pmIt’s not a violent overthrow of the government that is needed. Our government is the best ever conceived by man. What is need is to remove the Tyrants that are current trying to overthrow our government. The replacement of these Tyrants is one purpose of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. It is our duty as citizens to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. Despite what some Dems are saying, we do have domestic enemies in the ranks of Congress. Violence should be a last resort but it should never be ruled out. It‘s unfortunate that Glen doesn’t understand this. Even Jesus understood when he said “sell your cloak and buy a word.”
Report Post »PlaneRick
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:36pmto KRYPTONITE:
Report Post »Obviously not in action, becuase Marxism doesn’t just call for an end to capitalism, but is concerned in the governance there after. Between his shoring of private corporations with public funds and the extensive use and growth of private contractors throughout the government. I don’t see him realistically bringing capitalism in America to an end but rather the opposite.
The bigger question to you is this – how is THAT all it “boils down to”. Unlike salt water, it doesn’t boil down to just one thing.
Government and purpose of it are, from the start, a series of complex questions. And as history as clearly shown, every complex question has a simple answer and AND IT IS ALWAYS WRONG. Examples to the contrary continue to show either a misunderstanding in what “complex” means or even what is a proper analogy.
VegasGuy
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 3:44pm@PLANERICK, you make a good argument except you fail to give the entire picture in order to make your point. Obama wants a civilian military as well armed and funded as our men and women in the service. That doesn’t sound like the Peace Corp to me.
He never explains why but that is typical for Obama. Nebulous platitudes. Then we have to wait to see what he does before we understand what he REALLY was saying. You need to hear his own words about his civilian military:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 4:01pmJZS,
“You’d be hard pressed to find a doctor, particularly an oncologist in this country who does not recommend end of life counseling. Ask yours!”
Ahh, but in the private sector, end of life counseling is based on the individual’s funds, not on the tax payer’s funds, and so deciding with your doctor, at the end of life, how best to allocate one’s own personal resources, makes sense. But when the government gets a hold of end of life counseling, 1) they are redistributing taxpayers’ money to less than every constituent at a particular level of government, which is theft, and 2) it gives government, rather than the People, the power to make life and death decisions for individuals, and that is tyranny.
“And the concept that insurance companies pay your doctor (not a governmental panel) to have end of life counseling is a secret plot by the government to kill your grandmother is tin foil hat stuff. It’s a triumph of anger over reason. Ask your doctor!”
One need not plot to kill your grandmother in order to sincerely enact policies which necessitate those ends. Maybe Marxists mean well, but the problems come when an individual believes they can do better for themselves and seeks to claim his right to handle his affairs as an individual, but those in power, who see the citizens as a collective, decide that individual liberty runs afoul of their idea of what is good for the collective, and they start repressing – even by violent means – those who merely want to claim the liberty that was given to them by God.
Government may not start repressing people initially, but in order to keep the costs of government run health care down, they MUST control people’s behavior, which is tyranny.
“Maybe I’m clueless, but I haven’t lost any of my freedoms. I haven’t been sent to a FEMA concentration camp or anything. Every other western democracy in the world has universal health care, and to my knowledge none of those countries are totalitarian dictatorships.”
Not everyone gets sent to camps, when those are used, you know. Those who fall in line don’t need to be put into camps.
Consider also, what our Founding Fathers said of the tyrant King of Great Britain:
‘He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.’ – Declaration of Independence
Were these people put into camps? No. But they were asked to give up their right to representation; And, as the Founders noted, such a policy could only benefit tyrants.
Also, manipulating you is sometimes a lot easier than holding a gun to your head, so you don‘t need a FEMA camp to take away people’s rights. Consider the Obama Administration’s deep water moratorium: Deep water drilling is supposed to be so destructive to the environment and to the economy, but the Obama Administration is sending money over to Brazil to help them with their deep water drilling. This is obviously the intentional destruction of American productivity for the benefit of another nation, which is treason.
Also, consider that there are those in government who believe that they can do most anything, seen here:
http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman-at-town-hall-the-federal-government-can-do-most-anything-in-this-country/
“Seems kind of crazy to talk about overthrowing a duly elected government just because they want to help “the least of us.”
Hitler was duly elected, you know. The issue in both Hitler’s case and the Obama Administration (and the Bush Administration, which I’ve come to learn), is whether they intend to give you the mere illusion of freedom as they pass laws to manipulate you as a collective.
This happened in Hitler’s case, and it is happening with the Obama Administration now.
“Duly elected” is pretty shallow, if you were lied to.
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 4:13pmTHIS MAN IS AN AMERICAN LEADER !!!!!!!! Fighting the good fight and holding true to the principals leaders from our founding would approve of. I wish we had a guy like that here in Missouri. Get your beliefe in line with your principals and STAND ON THEM! BECOME THEM!
I completely agree that we should follow the constitutional proceedures for revolutional change. First and foremost!, that will suffice if it is not subverted or outright currupted by fraud and cohersion.
Breaking out my M16 and my M203 is not what I have in mind, Angry mob is not who we (American CITIZENS, Patriots to the founding principals) are, It is, however, who they (hippy, socialist, communist, marxist radicals) are. We Completely out number them! We will only apply enough force to overcome the tyrants and traitors to the American Constitution!! PC crap is dead NOW!! Logic demands we have to call out and prosecute these traitors that are guilty of Gorss vialations of OATH OF OFFICE!!! THAT IS GROUNDS FOR TREASON!! WHERE THE HELL IS THE FBI? CIA? NSA? Running scared from the man in the whitehouse? GROW SOME BALLS, DO YOUR JOB!!!!! IF YOUR SUPERIORS ARE NOT DOING IT, THEN IT IS UP TO YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!
I realize that what we are proposing is an unpresidented restructuring of the US gov’t. In order to put our gov’t in line with the constitution. It will take going through some rough times. Shutting down whole currupt arms of the gov’t. Restructuring our tax systems and monitary controls and the agencies that control those activities. Control will most likely not be given up without a fight, but we are willing to what it takes to protect and defend the gift and responsibility of freedom for ourselves and our children. I would rather die a hero than a subjegated slave. My American Indian/Jewish heritage is a good example of why not to give in to the forces of evil, and a defining role of evil is controlling the will of anyone else, NOT EVEN THE ANGELS are allowed to interfere with FREE WILL!!!
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 4:53pmTo have the President of the United States stand up to the podium and say that “The constitution of the United States is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED” IS EVIDENCE OF TREASON and a gross violation of his OATH OF OFFICE!!!
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 4:56pmjsz: I don’t have any children and quite frankly it irritates me that I have to pay several thousand dollars each year in property taxes so other people’s children can be indoctrinated in public schools. The roads in my neighborhood are maintained by the very high homeowner maintenance fees I pay annually and the public roads I drive on are paid for by the gas taxes and annual auto registration fees I pay.
Military and infrastructure are about the only justifiable expenditures of the federal government and I can assure you that the taxes I pay more than enough cover my share for these necessary items. Furthermore, unlike Liberal hypocrites who whine about people not being generous enough and then don’t give a penny to charity, practically everyone in my circle gives at least 10% of their incomes to their churches, which in turn use that money to help the poor.
By the way, “general welfare” in the Constitution does not mean what you evidently think it means. Liberals have perverted the general welfare clause to mean that the government should make life comfortable for people who won’t fend for themselves, but the founding fathers included that clause to ensure every American benefits from any federal expenditure. In other words, their intent was for the tax dollars collected by the federal government to be used on things that would benefit every citizen (e.g., the military, infrastructure) and not so citizens in Texas could bail out reckless states like California where local tax money was used by corrupt bureaucrats to buy off unions in exchange for votes.
Report Post »calebgs83
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 5:58pm“I don’t have all the facts….but the Pastor acted stupidly”
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 8:13pmIm with him. No violence now. what i mean and what i think he means is violence is only moral when used in retaliation against violence. Government is force. if your held up on the street and a man says to you ‘your money or your life’ violence is just against him. If the government comes to you and says ‘ Your healthcare or retirement, or weed, or guns or we will enslave you for your life’ the question is about the same.
Both are asking for your liberty or your life. And neither is possible to a man without the other.
Report Post »PlaneRick
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 8:59pmTo VEGASGUY:
Report Post »Please show me where Obama calls for an “armed” civilian military. The only places I can find articles referring to such use only either cherry-pick sound bites (such as the one you posted) without actual context in the speech and the only mention an armed force from the writer’s opinion of the sound bite presented. The sound bite in your particular clip came right after he talked about expanding funding and people to the Peace Corps (obviously not an armed force) in a speech directed at civil service. For this sound bite to carry any weight, why not just include the full speech? Show he meant an armed militia-like force? Until such time as, and with much more physical proof, I can only determine such claims to be silly conspiracy rather than fact. I am open to hear more proof if there is such.
longhorn mama
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 10:49pmI hope it does not come to this but if it does, my family and I are ready! LIBERTY!
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 1:08am@PLANERICK, I apologize for wasting your time (and mine). There is just no helping those who do not care to be helped no matter how much effort is expended. Some people just are not worth the effort.
Report Post »NewsStalker
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 1:36am@WOODSDOG & @VEGASGUY I am lovin it brothers,
Report Post »I totally agree, Give me liberty or give me death. I say, “or both”. Vegasguy, I also feel the way you do about Glenn stating, “just move out of the way when they charge towards you and they will go right off”. NO Glenn, we do need to stand up to injustices committed…I am ready to dance too…America’s definition is the US CONSTITUTION. If you are a liberal or you feel contrastive/polar to our definitions, even though you might be an American by status only (not its definition), then move to whatever country suits your beliefs…UK? Germany? Greece? Iran? Just move and stop trying to tread on me and my true brothers here in the USA…We will all pitch in and buy you a one way ticket out…
jzs
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 2:55amDoctor’s Labor, a point by point rebuttal. Awesome. I‘ll try to respond although it’s evident you live in an alternate universe, one where an apocolytic battle of Good vs. Evil is taking place.
First, your credibility anywhere outside this website goes to zero by comparing Obama to Hitler. Hilter was the genocidal mass murder who tried to conquer the world. Supporting universal health care, something every other industrialized country in the world has, is not quite the same. That kind of egregiously outrageous comparison gets applause in your Good vs. Evil Universe, but get you an F in high school English. And your reference to “the collective”? You’ve been watching too much Star Trek.
Speaking of health care, you must know some citizens of the United States are already under the care of system that is 100% socialized medicine. The government owns the hospitals and pays the doctors. It’s the VA. It’s not perfect but, as I understand it, preferred by Veteran to private insurance. Have you heard veterans complain of government run “death panels” at the VA? Are Vets “tyrannized” by the government? Reagon famously said that Medicare would lead totalitarianism in the ’60s, but now that is one of the most treasured benefits in the United States.
You make liberal use of the “slippery slope fallacy” in your response to my post. Universal health care leads to government control of life and death and ultimately, absolute tyranny. Besides being fallacious reasoning it’s proven false by the fact, again, that every other industrialized Democracy in the world has universal health care, including Germany going back before Hitler came to power. Believe what you want, but England, Germany, Japan etc. have not become totalitarian dictatorships because of their system for taking care of their own.
But you dodged my questions. What freedoms have you lost? Have your guns been taken from you? Or all are your fears just around the corner?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 3:57amLTB, of course your insurance sucks. Everybody’s insurance sucks. Do you know why? Because insurance companies are in the profit business and every dollar they give you is a dollar off of their bottom line. You pay only $300/month for health insurance? I hope you or anyone in your family doesn’t get cancer or any other condition with similar medical costs. It happens and when it does, it drives a family into abject poverty very quickly, even assuming your insurance company doesn’t drop you (something Obama care prevents).
Report Post »Pyronaught
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 12:31pmHa, everybody has figured out the “reply to the first post” trick for getting your comment on the first page.
I don’t understand why this story is getting so much play. It’s not like the guy is advocating violence or pushing people in that direction. He is just stating the obvious. If people are pushed far enough and all other options have failed then there will be violence. This is not something anyone could “take off the table” even if they wanted to. This is reality, plain and simple. Conservatives need to stop playing into this liberal trap. The more Beck and others waste time condeming this, the more they feed the false narrative that Broden is calling for violence. He is merely saying it could happen, not that he want’s it to happen. That’s it. Stop making it into something that it isn’t.
Report Post »dominke
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 5:57pmThis illegal and his liberal dem congress only know violence. They thrive on it like other liberal socialist government. They dont think that most americans would fight for our freedoms. We are ignorant and stupid society. 11-02-10 will tell if we fight with or without fire power. Smith & Wesson,Glock,etc.
Report Post »Routy7
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 10:16pmWhat we need to remember in all this is:
Report Post »The ONLY DIFFERENCE between Stalin communism and Progessive dems and rebubs is HOW LONG IT TAKES TO EAT THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
ron the veteran
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 10:44pmno not an overthrow of our government just the removal of the problems in government. you can go the easy way or the hard way, eather way it dont much matter to me just as long as they are gone and our nation is back to how it was ment to be. you leftwing nutjobs can kindly get the hell out if you dont like that. now its up to you how we do this.
Report Post »CYCLONE
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 11:36pm2-nd amendment applies…. SEMPER FI !!!!
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 11:50pmLOL, I meant to say:
“No, you MISrepresent us. The Right loves our beloved soldiers …”
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 11:27amLeo, you may call me delussional but I KNOW that God be4sides calling Glenn Beck to be the last daysPatrick Henry/Thomas Paine, has also called a last days General George Washington to lead us to victory. God will let us know through this man when and how to take back our Constitutional Republic. Just don’t be too surprised when you find out who he is. Keep your moral mind open.
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:38pmAdd your comments
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on October 22, 2010 at 2:45pm@ Heytrud: Speak for YOURSELF,yo! That kind of rhetoric is not welcome on this site. Go spread that crosshairs crap on some Whitepower site. The best ammo we got is the vote. Period!!!!
Report Post »messenger
Posted on October 23, 2010 at 10:16am“Just don’t be too surprised when you find out who he is. Keep your moral mind open.”
Then how do you “he” is not a “she” and armed with nothing more than the “Word”?
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