Research: Bible May Have Been Right About Red Sea Miracle
- Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:48pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The parting of the Red Sea, as portrayed in the movie "The Prince of Egypt."
It’s one of the more famous Bible stories. While fleeing from their Egyptian masters, the Israelites reach a dead end at the Red Sea and are almost assured death or a return to slavery. But, the story in Exodus goes, God parted the waters allowing the Israelites to cross, and collapsed the waters on the Egyptians when they tried to use the same passage.
Now, according to new computer analysis from the National Center for Atmospheric Research, the miracle may not be as impossible as some detractors think. The study, published today in the online journal PLoS ONE, finds that strong, persistent winds could offer a physical explanation for the event.
“The simulations match fairly closely with the account in Exodus,” lead researcher Carl Drews told the London Telegraph.
Here’s how:
Analysis of archaeological records, satellite measurements and maps allowed the researchers to estimate the water flow and depth at the site 3,000 years ago.
An ocean computer model was then used to simulate the impact of a strong overnight wind on the six-foot-deep waters.
The scientists found that an east wind of 63 mph blowing for 12 hours would have driven the shallow waters back, both into the lake and the river channel.
For a period of four hours, this would have created a land bridge about two miles long and three miles wide.
The waters really would have been parted, with barriers of water raised on both sides of the newly exposed mud flats.
Ken Ham, president and CEO of the Creation Museum, in Petersburg, KY told USA Today that he needs no scientific explanation in order to believe that the event occurred: “The parting of the Red Sea was a miracle,” he wrote in an e-mail to the paper.
“It was an extraordinary act of God. Yet, God used a force of nature — wind — to bring about this miracle. But there is no need to come up with a naturalistic explanation of a supernatural event.”
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Comments (340)
Eliasim
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:26pmWhat is it that you believe? You believe God parted the Red Sea because that is the named sea in the area of Egypt? Note that Exodus 14:9 says: Pharoah , and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pihahiroth, and before Baalzephon.
Note that God told Moses to: lift up his rod. This is what happened: Moses lifted up his own spirit, and Moses divided Pihahiroth, and divided Baalzephon, and then God for Moses struck a portion of the Egyptians with the light, and Egyptians took the wheels off the chariots, and Israel moved through the divided Sea of people of Pihahiroth and Baalzephon. Then Moses turned around and raised his spirit again and caused the sea of Pihahiroth and Baalzephon to fall upon the Egyptians.
WhiteFang
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:32pmWhat? Are you going beyond what is written? I think you are!
Eliasim
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:45pmI’m not changing the writings, only your understanding of them, as the understandings have already been changed much. I only want to restore that which was.
Red Neckerson
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:54pmRobert Ballard, the same man who found the Titanic, has alraedy found and filmed the Egyptian chariots on the bottom of the Red Sea. I saw some of the videos, there where chariots that had the wheels still intact and there were some chariots that obviously were smashed. Some of the chariots had gold gilded wheels. Amazing how God has preservd the remains to this day when they can be found, filmed, and recovered, Just more proof is being found everyday that proves the Bible is the infallable Word of God.
Eliasim
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 4:55pmRed Neckerson, I don’t mean to burst your uncircumcised hearts bubble, but if they had been on the bottom of the red sea for over three thousand years, they would never have found them as they would have been covered by dozens of feet of silt and sand. They were placed there after the fact. I would think people are slightly smarter than science, as even science lies today directly to your face.
Eliasim
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 5:06pmSee Neckerson,
The way history is, is first the world had hellinistic gods and an earthly god; then incarnated gods using science as sorcery to keep and hold power(pharoahs); Then the real God came and undid all those past religions with a real spiritual presence; and now science is trying to take back over by making things the way people’s hearts hear and understand the Bible, imitating God’s actions. So basically, science needs there to be chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea.
BreakingthePresidium
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 6:36pmEliasim, God created Science. There are two kinds of Science. The one that observes and tests the world around us and the one that makes up things. There are Christian Scientists. There are no “gods” The is One God, then there are the forces of evil. Now either you are being a dork and making up things, or you are Intellectually Bankrupt and believe it. Either way is not too good for you.
About the Chariots, they were covered by coral and no silt might not have covered them.
You really need to brush up on your Biblical history.
Eliasim
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 7:16pmBreakingthepresidium,
It’s alright, I understand, you externalize your belief in God like Muslims do. I’m sure it makes you feel better and takes less guts. God does work miracles, wiping out firstborns, plagues and such. But God didn’t part the Red Sea, Moses parted a sea of people. Explain why God would slowly work the Pharoah by God doing small things to Pharoah, and then do a giant thing by wiping Pharoah and all his army away with the Red Sea, when God could have just as easy just struck them dead? Striking them dead would be a big miracle.
WordIsFoundational
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 11:17pmEliasim,
Jesus said, “Without Me you can do nothing.”
Prov 3:5-7
Trust in the Lord with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.
6 In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He will make your paths straight.
7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;
Fear the Lord and turn away from evil.
NASU
We are to wait upon the Lord; it is best not to look for some explanation that seems mystical.
Jeremy
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 11:09amRevelation 22:18,19
mzmaj7
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:21pmThe report assumes that the sea was 6 ft. deep.
So the Egyptian army was subsequently decimated when the waters returned to 6 ft?
Prospero
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:42pmLet’s do the math. Three miles long, two miles wide, six feet deep.
((3 * 5280) * (2 * 5280) * 6) = cubic feet of water. A cubic foot of water weighs 62.4 pounds.
1,003,622,400 cubic feet * 62.4 pounds…….
My guess is getting nailed with a speeding wall of water of that mass would be somewhat harmful.
Pelosis_Nemesis
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 8:07pm62,626,037,760 lbs of water with a tremendous amount of energy behind it…that’s pretty powerful
Cyndy
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:19pmThis is no surprise to peoplemof faith – however there is also no harm in testing faith. It’s called apologetics.
Tatum
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:16pmLet the Libs call you stupid. The more they talk the more everyone can see who needs to think more before talking.
LoveThyNeighbor
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:15pmRight, God parted the Red Sea through Moses. He could have used a natural method but I believe it was through His divine power. But still, it is nice when scientists can prove what the Bible says to be correct. It shows the fact that God and science can and do coexist. The Bible is not full of fairy tales and outdated science.
Okpulot Taha
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:15pmAll of this is plumb silly. God or Moses “parting seas” is crazy talk. Winds blowing back this amount of water mass is about as likely as your winning a state lottery.
You ever try to walk several miles while waist deep in mud?
Poppycock, silliness, nonsense, malarkey.
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
Prospero
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:28pmWhy don’t you take your insipid atheism back to the black liberal boards where you generally hang out, Purl Gurl. Then you can rant endlessly about God *and* hurl racist epithets, which is your typical MO.
Prospero
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:30pm“blowing back this amount of water mass is”
Being the self-described world’s master Perl programmer gives you lots of insight into physics, does it?
Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:30pmPsalm 19: 1 – 4 reads, “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.”
There is perfect order in God’s universe. He created all things, and NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.
Prospero
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:33pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_surge
“It is this combined effect of low pressure and persistent wind over a shallow water body which is the most common cause of storm surge flooding problems.”
Apparently, you’re unfamiliar with common wind-related shallow water disturbances. In Florida, everyone knows what a storm surge is……
Venom
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:59pmWow what an imbecile….if you don‘t believe in God then don’t post. Go find something else to spam up. I wish i wasn’t Choctaw just for this reason. And you called others bigots…
w4jle
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:08pmDo a Google search on our Indian friend and find out what she and a Chevy 700R4 have in common…
teahugger
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:36pmThat is why it is such a miracle…if it were commonplace it wouldn’t have been such a big deal.
Okpulot Taha
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 5:10pmWOW! Will you read all that insult and hatred coming from good Christians!
Those are precisely the type of boys we need representing our Tea Party movement!
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
Buck Bagaw
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 7:16pm“as about as likely as your winning a state lottery”. Actually a lot less likely, but, state lotteries are won all the time. this is only recorded as actually happening once. Not to be disrespectful but this makes a lot more sense to me than a “Ghost Dance”. This story and many others were recorded in writing from the times they happened by period contemporaries, and not just handed down by word of mouth where the story teller adjusts the “facts” to convey the slant he wants to put on it.
UNITEDWESTAND101
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 7:16pmOKPULOT TAHA,
I pray for you that you will obtain an understanding of miracles as they are a fundamental part of life.
Regards to calling us hateful, 99% of us are not. You have a firm right to voice your opinion on this or anything else. We want debate, if you do not believe in miracles or god back it up with truth.
There is plenty of evidence that miracles occur all the time.
Okpulot Taha
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 8:10pmBUCK BAGAW comments, “…this makes a lot more sense to me than a “Ghost Dance”. This story and many others were recorded in writing from the times they happened by period contemporaries….”
Recorded in writing by Christians. Our natives tongues are not written languages. Would there be an inherent bias present when Christians view our culture or comment about our culture? What you read is presented by Christians, not my ancestors. You are reading hearsay and rumor.
UNITEDWESTAND101 comments, “I pray for you….”
Why would you do this? I am a pagan American Indian. I will send my medicine animal, Coyote, to teach you. Does this work for you?
UNITEDWESTAND101 adds, “There is plenty of evidence that miracles occur all the time.”
Cite one factually proven miracle.
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
UNITEDWESTAND101
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 9:09pmOKPULOT TAHA,
I will cite a couple of modern miracles:
The foundation of America was a miracle, really the first time in history that people kept their freedoms that god gave them and had proper protection to pursue happiness. Our founders created our country in faith of “divine providence.” America‘s constitution has outlasted any other country’s governing document.
A more recent, less purpose more symbolic miracle is that of the geese flyover of 8.28, after trying to organize a flyover, Mr. Beck failed. Amazingly, A flock of geese in perfect formation flew over the crowd almost at the perfect time, nearly right at the beginning of the event.
Youtube video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyK9QRr4ebQ
Answering your pondering over why I pray for you is because I care for you. Once you fully understand the power of god, you will become a much more enlightened individual.
Please respond with something that disproves miracles. I pray that you will see god.
messenger
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 1:01pmOnce there was a man who said, “Come, walk to me upon the water.”
Those in the boat were afraid (of him or his own particular brand of madness?), except for one.
The one climbed out of the boat and crossed the water without sinking…until he doubted himself and lost faith.
Then he sank.
Allegory, parable or truth?
Who among you has never lost faith or sunk to the depths of despair?
Yet, there are enough of you here with the combined faith to both find and upraise the Titanic, albeit, for decidedly different reasons.
Instead, you bicker over miracles.
Everyone travels The Trail of Tears at some point in their lives, thus legends, tales and stories enable them to connect with those who went before.
The story of Chahta and Chickasha, speak to the beautiful strength and tradition of the Choctaw People, one story among so many Native American spiritual words.
Various peoples of color, race and creed!
You do not view a different sky, nor walk a different Earth.
Although you may take very separate and distinct paths toward your goals,
every single road converges to one end.
If you do not come together in life, how will you ever overcome yourselves in death?
Buck Bagaw
Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:22amThe recorded crossing of the Red Sea was documented by the Jews, Christians weren’t around for a couple thousand years yet. See, this is where a written language comes in handy, you can look stuff up.
The Bees
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmYo Science boy,
C.mere – Ya coulda just asked us Bees. We knew this for a few thousand years now.
BTW – That Noah’s Ark thingy – yea that ones real too! But we’re not gonna tell ya where the Ark is. Ya gotta figure that out on your own.
Gods Friends,
The Bees
poverty.sucks
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmIt’s a Miracle – we’ve been asking for more good news!
poverty.sucks
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:17pmThe headline still adds dought reword – Research: Bible Is Correct About Red Sea Miracle
rpa1121
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmYou have got to be kidding me. Do these people really thnk we need science to explain God’s miracles? WOW.
BubbaCoop
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:10pmDoes this sound like shallow water or reeds?
“The Egyptians were fleeing toward it, and the LORD swept them into the sea. 28 The water flowed back and covered the chariots and horsemen—the entire army of Pharaoh that had followed the Israelites into the sea. Not one of them survived.
“But the Israelites went through the sea on dry ground, with a wall of water on their right and on their left.”
Prospero
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:25pmScience and stuff isn’t your strong suit?
Let’s do the math. Three miles long, two miles wide, six feet deep.
((3 * 5280) * (2 * 5280) * 6) = cubic feet of water. A cubic foot of water weighs 62.4 pounds.
1,003,622,400 cubic feet * 62.4 pounds…….
Starting to come clear?
Independent Tess
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 6:59pmWow, Prospero!
I knew that a single gallon of water weighs approx. 8 pounds, but your calculations make the devastating power of the water very clear!!
BubbaCoop
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 9:45pm“Wall of water”
I’d hardly call 6 feet a wall. More like a shelf.
Why are you assuming 2 miles wide? There’s nothing to support that.
T.E.A.PARTNER
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 11:11amI was wondering, as I scolled through the comments, how long it would take for someone to mention that they walked across on DRY LAND. Guess I’ve got to wait for a scientist to explain that before I can believe the story.
Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:10pmMiraculous signs and wonders are no big deal to God. After all He created the wind and the water; and all things for that matter. Micah 7: 8 – 20 tells us that when God restores His Whole House of Israel (especially verse 15) that He is going to again show signs and wonders in the last days that are going to baffle His enemies.
2gether
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:08pmMoses’ faith in God is what parted the Red Sea…in essence all things are possible with God…including a huge turn over of seats in the senate and house! Liberty and justice for all….
Jeremy
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:26pmBe careful to recognize that Moses was only the tool God did it not Moses and even when Moses didn’t have faith in God He still provided for His people. Remember God said speak to the rock and it will give water but Moses struck the rock instead and God provided the water anyway.
NFYRx
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:08pmSo the Egyptians drowned in 6′ of water? How quickly did the water return?
kaydeebeau
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:53pmThe rush of the water returning to its starting point can drown and move objects – people and cars are swept away in flash floods of less that 12 inches of water every year……
RandomOrder
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:46pmHave you ever tried swimming in armor?
JJ Coolay
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 3:38amEven if the water was still (which it wouldnt have been once it came back down) it would be difficult to swim a couple miles to shore—-and who knows how good of swimmers they were? Maybe they never learned. And they had on armor.
All that said—there was still a rush of water when the walls let loose.
WhiteFang
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:07pmSkeptics abound, and their efforts to deny a Almighty God and His ability to cause the miracles recorded in the Bible continues. In their man inspired “knowledge” they deny the one who created them. Very foolish of them. Look at Romans 3:3-4
unashamed conservative
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:06pmMoses most certainly couldn’t have done it without God.
stone2016
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:05pmIt seems we get lost in the proof of miracles. Answer the question: Did God create the world? If yes, all of the miracles in the bible are at least possible. Come talk to me when you can prove God did not create the world. Because if he did, why can’t he part the red sea? Or cause floods? Or rise on the third day.
JJ Coolay
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 3:32amExactly.
If God did create the universe (which I believe He did) then everything else small potatoes.
Miracles to people are nothing to God. He’s capable of anything so to part a small body of water–that He created, is kinda of silly to think He couldn’t. He created gravity, so for Jesus to walk on water is for Him to only suspend His own creation. But these miracles are for our benefit for our finite minds to get a glimpse of God’s power.
cheezwhiz
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:05pmNo way God could have done that . God doesn’t do miracles donchano ?
:D
If this miracle happened , then Hussain did it.
Jeremy
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:20pmCheezwhiz you are unbelievably ignorant if you truly believe what you posted it’s obvious to me that you have never taken a real and unbias look at the bible because if you did you would undoubtedly change your mind.
End.The.Silence
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:04pmYes!! Thank you! Good for you Carl. If researchers can continue to prove the Bible right, how can anybody deny the fact that the Bible is wrong!? This is great! It will give the people who NEED the proof of something the tools needed to come to Christ! I never needed physical proof, and I definately don’t need a researcher to tell me that the Bible is true, but this is a good thing!
stone2016
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmAnyone that needs physical proof of the Bible will never believe in the Bible. Proof of God does not create faith. Faith in God creates proof.
mburns_08109
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:17pmStone,
What you say is true, but sometimes, just occasionally, “proof” of biblical truth makes a wonderful can-opener for the closed minds of those who do not yet believe. “Well, if that’s true, then…what else to I need to consider further?” It can be a beginning point for them. And we all know he is a God of Second Chances, right?
MESO71
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:29pmStone,
I found God after I came to the realization that science most often suggests the presence of God rather than denies His existence. God has a plan and a path for each of us. Mine was merely different than yours, but it still brought me to God.
Sunnyr
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:01pmI’m so glad you printed this story! I read it early this morning and was fascinated by the concept. The actual website has some great pictures of the area and the ‘actual’ crossing site. I believe it was called the Sea of Reeds because of the marshy surroundings. The “Red Sea” is close to “Sea of Reeds.” Fascinating.
MESO71
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:20pmThank you,
I for one needed to discover on my own that science does NOT in fact stand in the face of God, but rather it actually reaffirms His existence.
This was the path that led me in the right direction to come to the faith that I now have.
We each and every one of us have our own paths in finding God, I wish that some here would not imply that theirs is the only true way. Gods way is the only true way whatever it might be for each of us.
BubbaCoop
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:00pmI don’t think we need to have physical proof of miracles. If it‘s recorded in God’s Word, then it’s true.
“there is no need to come up with a naturalistic explanation of a supernatural event”
Exactly.
NFYRx
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:16pmI don’t know. I find “the miracle of birth” and fetal developement, for example, more awe-inspiring the more intricacies I learn about it. The attention to detail and infinate genious of the creator of science blows my mind more than just taking it as a magic trick.
He created perfect laws in nature that don’t need to be broken, He just knows how to use them.
Freelancer
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:05pmExactly! “Perfect Laws in Nature.” I don’t buy the theory of the big bang causing life as we know it. Explosions cause chaos not perfect order. If anyone ever doubts that, just blow something up and try to find any semblance of order and perfection anywhere near the blast radius.
NFYRx
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:19pmDon’t you think that when God Almighty declared with his voice “LET THERE BE LIGHT” his authority caused a “big bang” of photons (light)?
ron the veteran
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 12:19ami know what God warned us about, playing God. like the idiots who built that salmon they are playing in places they shouldnt be. if they are building a fish what else are they not telling us about?
Freelancer
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:58pmNot to knit-pick but I thought Moses parted the Red Sea….
BubbaCoop
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:00pmNot on his own.
broker0101
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:05pmCareful, some of the more energetic believers here may call that blasphemy.
Jeremy
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:06pmIt was a miricle of God Moses was simply the man that God used it was the power of the almighty God that did it.
DanB
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:47pmSome of us believers won’t call it “blaspheme.” We might just point out that when Moses did take personal credit for one of the miracles that he was rebuked by God over the matter. And according to the Bible that did happen when Moses struck a rock and water came forth for the Isrealites. Moses took credit–and well, I think I already mentioned that Moses didn’t get the good end of that deal.
What I find interesting is that they say, “Yes, it could have been caused by a wind.” Well, while I believe in the crossing by the Isrealites, I have a few questions still with this explanation.
For example, okay a 63 mph wind can drive back 6 feet of water and you would have walls. I can accept that. But what goes through my mind are a few of the following questions: Would that wind be traveling across, with, or against the people crossing the inland sea? Have you ever tried walking in high winds? And they weren‘t just traveling alone weren’t they? Maybe they were traveling without any food, water, clothing, sheep, cattle, or any other provisions that might have made travel in that wind any interesting challenge. I cannot say for sure.
It could have been wind and the real miracle is both the timing (the wind blowing when they needed it) and the fact that they made the crossing in such wind. Or perhaps it was something else. Did you know that there was already another explanation for how this miracle might have happened? A second proposal that actually was linked to a possible explanation for the plagues? Someone theorized that it could have been earthquakes and volcanic activity. That was interesting to learn about. Doesn’t mean that is the way it was done. Because even that brings into the question of how would Moses have been able to know when and if all these things would have happened. Because, although they were able to attribute examples of all the plagues connected with volcanic activity, I do not recall them placing all of them with an all encompassing example of volcanic activity. They just used a few repeated for connected effects. Water to blood (not literally in their analogy but would have seemed so) was also connected to the plague that killed all the eldest (hint: they claimed that the eldest boys/men were given the best beds in the ancient Egyptian homes–which were beds down low while the family typically slept on the roof–so a low laying gas would have killed them while their family up above would have been spared as well as the Jews who were not laying down–seem to recall they were feasting and most of us eat upright). I mean, without God, how would Moses have known to time the feast, the river to blood miracle, the locusts, and everything else. And by the way, they attributed the Red Sea crossing to a mistranslation of ancient texts. Apparently there used to exist another inland “sea” back then known as the Reed Sea. It no longer exists as an inland sea…. But they claimed that an earthquake would have created the rushing of water overnight followed by the water rushing back in like a wall a bit later…. So, perhaps the options available to God were wide and far more varied than one possibility. Wind, water, and earth. I hear that God created them all.
Biscuit Feed Bubba
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:47pmBiscuit to Freelancer
If you have your Bible, please turn to the 24th Chapter of Joshua, in this chapter you will find the answer to the origin of miracles. The light bulb is to Moses what the Power Plant is to God. The light bulb and Moses demonstrate power, but the true source of power is no mystery.
Freelancer
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:01pmI really didn’t intend to start a Biblical debate here. I know that God made the Sea part but Moses was the man who raised his staff and thus it happened. I was referring to what is commonly known to most people. Moses gets the credit for parting the seas in every story I have read. But yes, it could not happen without God making it happen. Thank you!
aafriend
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 9:45amGod works through his creation, Moses was man, Gods creation, we are all Gods creation, God is love, we have the choice to love, therefore we all have the ability to do Gods will. There is power in truth and love.
What do we choose to do ?
broker0101
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:57pm….Wait, is this good or bad for the “Miracle” argument?
Sunnyr
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:09pmIt’s all good. IF the winds came and blew the waters apart to expose land, who sent the wind? God.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 4:24pmYou don’t think it could just be… you know… weather?
USAMama
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 7:30pmWell that would have to be one heck of a coincidence that “weather” just happened to send that wind at that exact moment. It may have been weather, but it was commanded by God.
marionp
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:56pmWhen it come to the power of the Almighty God…Why do we need physical proof that what He does is possible?
End.The.Silence
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:07pmIf there was no physical proof that Christ/God is all-powerful, then the world would be a very dull place. Everything you see cries out to the glory of God. You just gotta look
Marylou7
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:46pm:D The sun rising in the morning is proof enough for me. I feel him every day in my heart. Praise the Lord.
LibertarianJedi
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 7:35pmits a personal choice, some ppl need it, some dont.
Question with boldness, in whatever way you see fit.
ron the veteran
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 12:09amanyone who dont belive in God needs to go to the hubble telescope website and just look at the pics of whats there. they are just awesome, just like God.
BeginAgain
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:56pmI truly love this, we need more miracles.
I am 'We the People
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmMiracles only wane when people stop believing. I love the scientific study of miracles, it gives me a small glimpse into the mind of God. No, I don’t need to see them to believe, but it adds to my faith rather than diminish it. If someone has a problem with something like this then they need to do more meditation on their own spirituality and open their minds a bit.
If God didn‘t want us to know how he works with nature then we wouldn’t have the ability to explore science. Those who have ears let them hear…Those who have eyes let them see.
rcw_68
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 11:48pmFor those who are wondering how the Egyptians could drown in 6 ft of water, when the winds stopped, the water came rushing back creating rip currents and such. You could drown in 2 ft of water if it was moving fast enough. And really it doesn’t have to move that fast.
ron the veteran
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 12:03amsomeone had a program that could find all the names of all the popes in the bible they also found out about the space shuttle when it burned up on reentry. if showed in red letters the left wing it was really amaizing what was found in it. it was on discovery channel. i hope someone else seen the show too so you dont all call me nuts.
BQI
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 1:56pmI’m sorry, Mr. Scientist. I believed without this report.
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Sunnyr
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:03pmI also believed but I love it when there is a logical explanation to back up my faith. I have an argument to present to the naysayers.
NFYRx
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:06pmGod made science. I like using things I make.
wingedwolf
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:07pmI, too believed before he ascertained that a miracle could, in fact happen. Why do people need to explain miracles, again? If we all knew how it was done, it wouldn’t be called a miracle!
broker0101
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmI (and my father and grandfather and great grandfather and great-great grandfather) grew up near a very, very large lake that is about 6 ft deep and experiences @63 mph winds every single year. I know exactly how many times it has blown a walking path through the lake…
Jeremy
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:12pmI think this is great! I don’t need this evedence in order to believe it but its great when science finally “discovers” what the bible already tells us.
I am 'We the People
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 2:19pmActually, knowing how it is done should help people understand the greater miracle that it was. If you seek mysticism then you need to re-look at your own beliefs. (no insult intended) Knowing that the very winds obey and how they did obey does not change that the feat was still a miracle. Even if we could understand how the elements can follow the will of God, will not detract from the fact that the element DO follow the will of God. Do they follow your will? Do they follow the will of the scientists? Not without manipulation. God has always followed the laws of nature, do you think that makes Him weak or less powerful?
Independent Tess
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:16pmPerhaps the miracle was the absolutely perfect timing of that unusual wind!
Rev. WC
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 3:29pmJohn 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Walkaway
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 4:53pmWhat is this, an apologetic for evolutionists? Trying to figure out how it could have happened on accident?
Our whole biosphere changed when the flood happened, originally the earth was watered by a mist and from the ground. Does somebody think we need excuses as to how the sea parted?
bookhound63
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 5:11pmDoesn’t this make it an even bigger miracle? This means God drowned the entire Egyptian army in just six feet of water. Think about it.
Sicboy
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 6:05pmThe Bible is always correct. The miracle is, sometimes science finds the correct answer.
dan11g
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 6:56pmWow, Pharoh and his entire army drowned in 6 Ft of water! Amazing!!
USAMama
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 7:26pmIndependentTess, good point! Praise God… even for nay sayers who will argue that “there is a scientific explanation and its not a miracle” still doesn’t account for it happening right at that moment!! What would the chances be that this “just happened”?
I believe it takes more faith to believe that God doesn’t exist and all these things “just happen” then it does to believe there is a God and He is in control.
To believe the “big bang” theory is like believing you could put all the pieces of a clock into a box, shake it up for a million years, then open it up and expect to find a perfectly put together clock. It just doesn’t work.
THE CLOCK MAN
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 8:06pmWhy is it illogical for you to believe that God did it as the Bible teaches. The Bible “is” the Truth or it is a lie, there is no middle ground. I believe the Bible to be 100% True and I pray that you do too!… God Bless you!
MESO71
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 8:47pmOkay, so this is a naturally occurring phenomenon with large expanses of shallow water and areas that experience long durations of high steady wind. It is still proof of the work of God either way you see it.
Either God sent the wind and parted the water, or He led His children to the exact place at the exact time, told them to trust Him at what must have been a terrifying prospect, and convinced them that the right action was to go out into and cross a mud flat that would have been next to impossible to move in. They would have felt even more trapped in the sucking mud! But God told them it was the right action.
Some would find it a stretch to believe that the Egyptians all died in 6 feet of water. Not if the winds only let up a bit and they were knee deep in mud and silt with 3 to 4 feet of water and strong currents pulling them down.
I know, please don’t jump on me for demonstrating a possible situation that could be simply explained by science and presuming a possibility that is not exactly how it was stated in the Bible. Even if what I presume did happen, it still would have been written the same way by those that experienced it, so I can’t be completely discounted. What I am saying is that this is a real phenomenon, but it is an extremely rare one. The odds of Gods children being there at just the right time and place and the waters coming back just in time are just way to much to be a coincidence. I am not claiming any truth to this, but it would still be a miracle just the same. It is also much like the subtle, but very real miracles that we see happening to this day, which I see as proof that God is still with us.
Thug_N-Wordz_Luv_Beck31558
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 8:48pmAmen brother! Appreciate the research scientist. Anybody that really believes in God and the practices of Christianity knews that already.
independentvoteril
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 9:09pmI am with Sunnyr and I beleive that we are going to witness even more miracles in the near future..the one where the MEEK (workers) inherit the earth (government) from the tyrants (most politicians/elites) will be the one I like.. and from the looks of the T.E.A. party going to other countries well lets see how this works for the GOVERNMENTS..
GraceSullivan
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:10pmI believed also!
Britt
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:26pmHow did all those Egyptians drown in 6 feet of water?
Kilkman
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 10:40pmChrist walked on Water, what scientific phenomena explains that? So did Paul, until his faith faltered. And those he healed? And raised from the dead? His Resurrection? He spoke creation into existence. Creation follows Gods will, not the other way around. Oh, And That Boat like structure they found in Turkey in the Mountains of Ararat. The Scientists are No longer denying that it was a structure. They now suggest that it was probably a fort……………Shaped Like a big Boat……………In the Middle of what the locals call the valley of 8………6000 feet up the side of Doomsday mountain. Just sayin.
RCScrolls
Posted on September 21, 2010 at 11:10pmDid anyone think to research this guy, Ken Ham Hes a phoney has been for years showed up at our church years ago. Had about a different explaination for everything Biblical, except one thing He needs something to buy into the Bible. Jesus said if you dont believe in Moses and the Prophets you wont believe in HIM. Do you really think Six feet of water would have stopped the Egyptians, ? come on, LAND BRIDGE come on.
Its people like Ham that make people think the Bibles not worthy of its proof, because of His devastating explainations. Sorry Ken and by the way The Hebrews didnt back up during their penalty of waiting in the desert for forty years either. This guy is Blasphemous, but for a charge a few thousand dollars He will come to your Church too!
nichols_86
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 12:31amNo Scientific proof needed for me to believe…. May have been possible it happened!!!
kralspaces
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 7:41amA computer model! I thought we were done with Global Warming.
Ricky2
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 9:01amI also believed without this report. As an FYI…just do a search using “proof of red sea parting”…another scientist actually visited the crossing site including the use of underwater photography…filming chariot wheels and many other artifacts. It is amazing!!! God’s timing of the parting of the Red Sea at just the right time for Moses and the people to cross in safety.
Regarding why the Egyptians drowned in 6 feet of water…I can’t prove it, but in my journeys in this world, I haven’t found too many people living in a desert that can swim…LOL!
aafriend
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 9:32amIt is impossible for all of what we see around us to just happen. the human body is designed to perfect. any defects after man was created is man’s doing. God does not make planes fall from the sky, man builds planes, defects of birth are from man fooling with chemicals and Gods creation. free will is dangerous, but needed to find the path to truth. God reveals himself to us in many ways, we are just to busy,selfish and self centered see it. instead we as man choose to let the boogie man chase us from the truth.
Think about it, we as humans build things and try to perfect it. we keep working hard at making everything better, planes,cars,phones,robots,computers,etc. we are Gods creation, he is seeking perfection in his creation as well. he is watching how his creation is evolving.
Like us, God can scrap his project at anytime. Don.t try to confuse it or spin any of this, we are not in charge. a conscience doesn’t just happen. love is real, God is love,God is good, all the time.
stephenb.net
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 10:54amScience says it could happen! You are now permitted to believe THIS part of the bible. All the other stuff about God and Jesus rising from the dead hasn‘t been proven to be true in laboratory settings so that part isn’t sanctioned yet by the all knowing scientific community. Hey if science knows everything…how come Pluto isn’t a planet any more?
I’ll take Jesus over fallible man any day.
IndependentAmerican
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 2:27pmThis news will only be a surprise to Democrats, Mr. Obama, the failed Christian, included.
IndependentAmerican
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 2:29pmThis news will only be a surprise to Democrats, Mr. B. Hussein Osama, excuse me, Mr. Hussein Obama, the failed Christian, included.
srmanningson
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 3:02pmThe glaring question is, if all of this revisionista thinking is correct, HOW did all of those people drive the animals,wagons,children and adults loaded with grain and gold through the mud, or are we being told that several feet of muddy soil was also dried up in 12 hours ??? This theory sounds more like spit to me,or atleast that’s what it smells like. Just one more way to erase GOD, and put some plant or animal in His place.
sensiblemom
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 5:27pmWhat if God picked up the wind velocity? Could he create the parting in under 12 hours? I’m pretty sure He could. I believe He has all power and all knowledge and that the elements obey His command. I hope they didn’t spend too much time trying to prove that things really can happen that man cannot cause.
lunchlady1
Posted on September 22, 2010 at 9:52pmI totally believe that God works using natural laws. I always believed he could do this even when I didn’t understand the how.
MattMan57
Posted on September 23, 2010 at 9:25pmLike many if the respondants, here, I am glad there is a “logical” explanation PROVING this could be – since detractors are MANY.
Report Post »But, ALSO like many respondants here, I have come to realize that if someone doesn‘t want to believe God’s Word, even PROOF of His TRUTH does not impress them. To that end, I consider this to be a “non-win” finding; but it sure is nice to see the scientists take it on their proverbial chins for all their speculations over the years!
DonMill
Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:01amI do not question God, I question people, especially people to try to play God.
Report Post »davidseymour2005
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:02pmWhen God says it is true, then no matter what man says,God is correct. His nature keeps Him from liying, when you beleive Gen. 1:1 all other verses following are easy to beleive. One day all knees will bow and tounges will confess Jesus is Lord of lords, King of kings to the Glory of God The Father. God said it so it is true.
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