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Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Shares What ‘Most People Don’t Know’ About Roswell UFO Crash

Former Air Force Official Claims to Have Debunked UFOs Now Saying Roswell Incident Had Two Crashes

This newspaper article had a military spokesperson saying the object was a UFO at first. This account was later corrected. (Image: Wikimedia)

Even if you don’t know the conspiratorial details surrounding the mysterious crash that occurred in the summer of 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico, you probably at least know there are some who believe it was a UFO now being covered up by the government.

(Related: Proof of an Alien Cover-Up? YouTube User‘s Wild Theory That NASA Is ’Trying to Stop Us From Looking at the Sun’)

One of them, a former Air Force Lt. Col., is speaking out saying not only was he ordered to debunk some of the findings surrounding the investigation he was involved in, but that there was more than one crash. Here’s what Richard French had to say about the case to the Huffington Post:

“There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don’t know,” French told HuffPost. “The first one was shot down by an experimental U.S. airplane that was flying out of White Sands, N.M., and it shot what was effectively an electronic pulse-type weapon that disabled and took away all the controls of the UFO, and that’s why it crashed.”

French — an Air Force pilot who was in Alamagordo, N.M., in 1947, being tested in an altitude chamber, an annual requirement for rated officers — was very specific in how the military allegedly brought down what he believes was a spacecraft from another world.

“When they hit it with that electromagnetic pulse — bingo! — there goes all their electronics and, consequently, the UFO was uncontrollable,” said French, who flew hundreds of combat missions in Korea and Southeast Asia, and who held several positions working for Military Intelligence.

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French says he was told about the UFO “shootdown” by another military officer — a confidential source — from White Sands Proving Grounds, an area of the New Mexico desert where the U.S. military tested many weapons systems.

His source told French there was a second UFO crash near Roswell a few days after the first one.

“It was within a few miles of where the original crash was,” French said. “We think that the reason they were in there at that time was to try and recover parts and any survivors of the first crash. I’m [referring to] the people from outer space — the guys whose UFO it was.”

Watch this report from OpenMindsTV, a site that covers UFO news, (via Huffington Post) in which French speaks out:

In the above video, French again says that he was told to “debunk what we could in any way we could.”

Still, as one might expect, there are skeptics to French’s claims. The HuffPost reports retired Army Col. John Alexander, who viewed the Roswell documents, saying the technology in the 1940s would not have been sophisticated enough to do what French described:

“In the 1980s, I was the guy developing all of the pulse-power weapons systems. We couldn’t have done it then. In the 60s, they had a laser system, but your range was extremely limited, and we didn’t have operational laser weapons in that time frame,” said Alexander, who is working to get amnesty for military personnel who wish to talk about their UFO experiences.

Either way — government UFO cover-up or not — the object was deemed by military authorities as a high-altitude weather balloon, not a flying saucer.

The Huffington Post goes on to detail French’s credentials and the fact that he says it was part of his job to debunk UFO claims in many incidents outside of Roswell. Read more details about French’s account and the alleged Roswell cover-up here.

Check out this WDTN Channel 2 report out of Dayton, Ohio, investigating the Roswell incident and its connection with Wright Patterson Air Force Base:

Comments (267)

  • scrapadapolis
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:56pm

    Obamas attempt to further the people of his background.And when I seen HuffPost I knew it was a dont look at obama we are changing the subject..

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    • TheArbiter
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 8:23am

      so should every single news story be about obama? that would be creepy

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    • Msgt Ret
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:35am

      Yes, every news article should be about obama, his college records, birth certificate, unelected appointees, political donations for his election, tax records, (oops sorry he has never had a job so no tax records of any consequence) Just like it is for a Republican!

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:54am

      There’s nothing amazing about technology speeding up throughout the 20th Century, and since there’s nothing new under the sun innovation is always there in the mix of life for the picking. I’d say in regards to the story that French told, that his squadron’s plane was shot down by the UFO, because they were going to shoot at the UFO. In 1947 I would say the only one who did any shooting down of anything was the UFO. Or surely they would have returned sooner. But it‘s a great story ’Then’ to make the world at the time believe the U.S may have a UFO. Germany had a flying-wing design airplane in the works during the WW2 era, so I’m not surprised by stealth aircraft. Yet still, maybe they happened upon an alien craft more recently. May the Force be with you, always.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:54am

      dang it…stupid net..or maybe the secret government Eschilon computer blocked my posts…grrr…come and get me you toad monkies….grr….

      German had the V-2, Flying Wing, and jet fighters in 1944….they were months away from nuclear weapons and launch technology that would level all Great Britian in a blink….there was an entire secret war starting in the late 1930′s in the USA and GBR to steal, kill, or capture defectors from the German war scientist ranks….they even had radar masking technology as well…..

      this whole notion that it took the USA until the late 1970′s to build a Stealth Fighter…in a flying wing format by the way….is foolish…the problem is that radar and detection technology were advancing as fast as the Stealth technology was or faster….

      could an EMP/Laser style weapon have been around in 1947…possible but unlikely….we barely knew how to contain an atomic bomb…let alone the EMP effects….the USA had Neutron Bomb tech in the 1970s however…all the damage to living material but no radiation after a few months and all the tech and infrastructure intact….makes you wonder why we don’t set one off in certain Middle East capitals, eh??

      the more you learn and think about it…the Roswell incident was probably US work on Stealth Jets, Top secret aircraft, manned rocket flights…what..you think Kennedy just thought that up in 1961?? it goes back at least a decade before Kennedy…

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:18am

      I would like to see one article on Bill Clinton about his medical records. I want to see how many times he was treated for venereal disease & juxtapose that with the 60 Minutes interview with his wife saying what a great husband he was.

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:37am

      Obama is using radio waves to control people’s minds from his drowns. The Government is attempting to remove aluminum foil from the market but you can still get it in Dollar stores. Once you get some foil on you head, you can think straight.

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    • Ari Ben TZion
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:17pm

      Support Chick-fil-A.

      Close your Amazon account and ask others to do the same.

      Put Amazon on the endangered species list.

      Amazon’s founder, Jeff Bozo has pledged $2.5 Million dollars in support of same-sex marriage in retaliation to Dan Cathy.

      Mr Bozo is willing to use his wallet to take a stand so let us do the same.

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    • BuzzardSays
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:43pm

      Phony-baloney plastic-banana. My bible does not talk about space aliens. Jesus came to save men, women, and children who are caught in the sin merry-go-round, not space-aliens with tentacles. The nearest space alien potential planet is so far away that it is impossible that they could get here to planet Earth in the period since God created the heavens and the earth some 6 to 10K years ago.

      Roswell NM has secrets that if brought to light would still be ordinary and mundane kill your enemies type weapons systems, machinery, and methods. Oh what a beautiful day it will be when Jesus returns and we can dispense with the weapons of war.

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:01pm

      @MUFFY – I wish he’d drown.

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    • Thomas_Jefferson
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:45pm

      Just for argument sake, Lets say that a Extra Terrestrial ship did crash in Roswell NM & our government did recover the ship & survivors. Lets say that our government has been harvesting advance alien technology from the ship. Has anyone consider what would happen if our government admitted to it.
      Leaders from around the world would demand access to it. Can you imagine the problems this would cause. Consider Obama allowing Iran, North Korea & Venezuela to have unrestricted access to advance alien technology. That would be a disaster. If our government does have a recovered UFO, I say let them keep it a secret.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:50pm

    What if they shot one down more recently?

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:13am

      Why do you ask? Are you trying to get home?

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    • pissantno.10
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:39pm

      they wont let him back

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    • gena t
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:42am

      Not necessarily a UFO believer or nonbeliever. My first job, when I was 16, my supervisor was a woman in her 30s, who told me her husband had been assigned to guard a hanger at Roswell AFB in which a UFO was hidden. She had told me that back in 1962, I believe. That had been the first time I had heard the story about a UFO at Roswell. I just sorta dismissed it at the time. In 1967, one of my teachers at the Junior College I attended in San Antonio was a former Air Force officer who had been on a project to determine if there was any validity to UFO sightings. He said he totally disagreed with the final report that there had not been any valid sightings. He had told me there had been several reported sightings that seemed valid that had been studied by that group. I cannot remember the name of the study group. (long time ago) He had eventually gone on to received his PhD and worked at Ft Sam Houston until his retirement a few years ago. Seemed a very intelligent, knowledgeable man. I just don’t know enough to say yea or nay, but for that reason, keep an open mind on it. I do not believe Christianity contains any prohibition on believing that life might exist elsewhere.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:44pm

    Let me get this straight. A couple little UFO’s traveled alone across the expansion of space with no mother ship near at the time to make the U.S pay for shooting down one of their ships? Or they haven’t come back for 60 years to make the U.S pay for capturing their ships?

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    • mark81150
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:19am

      The whole story lacks any credibility.. We simply didn’t have that kind of technology then, and why, why shoot down an unknown aircraft/spacecraft type on sight?.. Fighter jocks are pretty wired, but they aren’t reckless, why fire on an unknown aircraft with a supposed experimental weapon, when as far as they knew, humans were flying it?

      They would have pursued, observed, but not fired on unless ordered too.

      and even if they suspected it was alien.. would any of you want to risk a war with aliens for no apparent reason than they breached our atmosphere close to a military base? and what are the odds, that aliens who would have been aware of our technology level, are taken down by a brand new technology which we wouldn’t have till decades later…

      the whole story reeks..

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    • bertr
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:02am

      I’ve often wondered if the whole “UFO” thing was an intentionally created conspiracy for the airforce to divert attention away from anything they happen to be testing that accidently or intentionally gets seen.
      I mean they really don’t have to hide much, anything people see that’s strange, they assume is alien, and not the military. We can invade any countries airspace to look around or tinker and its not us. It’s just all very very convenient.
      But who knows, based on what we have to go on(next to nothing) UFO’s could be almost anything from the unimaginable to the mundane

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    • djsGA
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:27am

      They have! Now you know why Obama’s records are sealed. :-)

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    • subic
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:01am

      Such BS…there are no such thing as ufo’s & little green men from other galaxies!

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    • welovetheUSA
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:56am

      Its time………

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    • Krutch
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:56am

      @ mark
      At that time, the military may have thought the russians had ‘disk’ technology from captured NAZI factories. There was so much that the NAZIs’ had that was beyond our capabilities and not knowing how far ahead of us they actually were, there was some concern of what the russys had stolen. There was rumors of disk tech. and factories were found that had been stripped of equipment to the point that the purpose of the factory was not readilly known.
      Our forces found the flying wing the Horton brothers had flown. One of the ‘wings’ was flyable and shipped to the USA. So there was every chance the russians had a disk and that technology. At least that was a possibility at that time.

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    • GEEK_OMG
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 8:11pm

      I call BS on the article… We didn‘t have that kind of technology in those days and likely still don’t. Besides, wouldn’t you think ET would have already thought of the EMP as a threat and had an effective defense?

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  • autofixer
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:43pm

    Roswell is downwind of Whitesands missile range. In the late 40‘s and early 50’s there were many tests of high altitude ejection seat systems. They were flown to ultra-high altitude by ballon and the systems were deployed on a rotary that looks like a saucer. Each system had a small dummy, about 3/4 size of a normal man and there were 6 or 8 of these around the rotary (saucer). These systems were ‘top secret”, as they were to be used in our spy planes and high altitude bombers. If there was a malfunction of the ballon, guess where they would come down? That’s right, the Rosewell area. The saucer, little men and all. I know I will not convice the true believers, but that is what most likely happened and why the military came and cordoned off the area and confiscated the artifacts–top secret test beds. http://www.wsmr-history.org/HandsAcrossHistory-05-12.pdf

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    • as_mad_as_hell
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:08am

      @petehdo: to elaborate on your point, this is all hokum. First, everyone is up in arms about Harry Reid’s rumor-mongering re: Mitt Romney’s taxes, but many would probably find this second-hand account of a magic “pulse weapon” shooting down an ET’s ship credible (primarily because they want to). Second, as you so capably insinuate, effective travel across great distances in outer space is virtually IMPOSSIBLE. Of course, there are those who surmise that an alien race would be so “advanced” that they could bend the time-space continuum and pass through wormholes or whatnot, but I think that is highly, highly unlikely. I recently read some articles that suggest alien spaceship sightings are the work of Satan, whose goal is to instill doubt about God’s existence — a theory that, at least to a God-fearing Christian like me, seems as plausible as any. Finally — and pardon me if I’m picking nits — but any flying object is a UFO till it’s identified, no?

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    • eagle2715
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:09am

      “effective travel across great distances in outer space is virtually IMPOSSIBLE”

      I don’t disagree with what your getting at, as I don‘t think little green men with intersteller spacecraft would be able to be ’shot down’ by anything we even have today… But…

      600 years ago sailing around the world was IMPOSSIBLE… 200 years ago powered flight was impossible…Who knows what impossible things we will be able to accomplish 200 years from now…

      So just because were not capable of it, that doesn‘t mean others who are more advanced couldn’t be…Assuming there are any out there to begin with…

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:10am

      @Mad and Eagle

      here is my take on the issue…not that space travel in impossible…it isn’t…but without some type of artificial wormhole stabilization technology, folding space, or warp theory…it is COMPLETELY IMPROBABLE….
      the nearest star to Earth…not planet but star….is 4 years at Light Speed…one way..with time dialetion and all…a round trip for normal life would be 8 years but the planet you came from would advance nearly 80… Einstein’s Twin Paradox theory…who would think that would be worth it to study an ant-like race in comparison to yourself… NOBODY that was Intelligent…
      NOW…the nearest planetary system to Earth of any type is MUCH more than 4 light years away… 10.5 or so..a Gas Giant…20.3 light years to a terrestrial planetary system…that is 1/5 the age of our solar system…kinda hard to be more advanced if you are on a planet 80% younger.. but still without the mentioned technologies for “faster than light travel”, a 40 year round trip for the alien would be 400 years on his planet…NOT worth it…
      and even with a 40 year round trip…do you think all they would do it come down to drunk farmers and campers, steal some cows, make some crop circles, and float in the night sky flashing their lights??? Seriously?? You either come en mass to conquer and take over or you come for science to study and communicate…NOT float in the sky and blink your lights on and off for amusement….

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  • Dougral Supports Israel
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:38pm

    If an alien craft crashed at Roswell we would have had no chance of understanding it. Could people 100 years ago understood our tech? How many years ahead of us would be a species that could travel between the stars? Why would they fly their craft and crash them on the earth when they could watch us remotely without being detected? None of it makes sense at all.

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    • hayesstephen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:48pm

      Funny so does your post. If there were parts of a U.F.O recovered sixty five years ago, we are still studying the thing. What people do not consider is that the first people on the scene were from the only Wing in the Air Force who were capable of carrying and deploying Atomic bombs to the enemy. They were the best of the best, the creme de la creme. They thought it was an alien craft. who am I to say they were Wrong?

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 7:53am

      It’s about breeding with humans, simply watching won’t achieve their end.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:37pm

    If he really wanted to get his story out there it seems like French should be talking to someone instead of the Huffington Post.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:33pm

    It seems to me that back then the government very much so had a strangle hold on the media as much and even more than they do now.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:35pm

      IF you really want people to take your points seriously put ALL your comments into ONE post!

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  • tomf
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:30pm

    radar can be used as an electromagnetic pulse weapon. It depends on the amount of power and shape of the beam. By the way Megawatt pulse radars were developed before the war.

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    • Redrivermma
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:32am

      We mere humans are capable of doing what he is claiming, especially the US military. Many of the weapons systems that are developed and used in training, are not used in warfare… I don’t understand why, maybe political, but I witnessed weapon systems that could obliterate a battalion armor force very easily and quickly, deployed by artillery…yet isn’t used even in the recent campaigns. For some reason, we downplay the might of the US arsenal, instead focusing on stuff like drones and armor, (drones have been around for 20 years or more BTW). I also know that sophisticated energy pulse systems were very much a part of the arsenal in the 60′s especially for higher altitude use, so if White Sands were the deployment site in this supposed situation, then 10-12 years turnaround to unit field testing isn’t too unusual.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:28pm

    I’m thinking back then it had more to do with psychological operations. Notice I said “Back then.”

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:22pm

    Sometimes I think to myself, why would Reagan have wanted a weakened Soviet Union if there really was a credible space alien threat?

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  • Old_Warrior
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:16pm

    Tesla coils have been around since 1891. (Thank you Nikola!) Building small Faraday cages around a plane’s internal electronics, with proper magnetic shielding, could have possibly allowed the USAF to rig a fighter Jet as a single giant ball of crackling ‘potential’ energy. Encountering a UFO that could hold the other end of a polar charge to close the circuit, would very much appear to be a directed energy weapon when the artificial bolts of energy would jump from the jet to the UFO. And yes, that high in the stratosphere going at faster than sound speeds, flying through the Earth’s magnetic field would generate an insane amount of potential energy electrical energy. So much focused in a small area, much like sunlight is focused through a magnifying glass, no amount of SPF would prevent the burn, just as no amount of counter measures against natural magnetic pulses in space and around planets can prevent seriously sustained lightning damage. I‘m not saying that’s what was used, but it makes the possibilities a little more plausible. Those guys in their R&D are smarter than I, and any of you, by leaps and bounds anyways. Who are we to say what they can pull off or not? ^_^

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    • seeker9
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:34pm

      Not being critical or any thing, but are you related to Pelosi? Interesting scenario but the plane would need to get like within a few feet of the UFO and I don’t think we were supersonic yet.

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    • Honestybefore truth
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:50am

      Maybe the pilot simply used the FORCE to bring down the U.F.O.

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  • Tayalynn
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:15pm

    Well, that explains where Harry Reid and Joe Biden came from.

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    • elimenopee
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:32pm

      FACT: Al Gore was born 9 months after Roswell.

      Answers so many questions…

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:40pm

      Interesting, his dad hadn’t slept with his mom for 6 months before that, and she was known to be attracted to trolls. She did hang out under bridges…..I think you cracked the Gore theory, that’s why he believes in science fiction and ManBearPig.

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    • ssanda
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:46am

      Eli,

      You’re right. Al is 1/64 Cherokee Indian (just like Ms. Warren). I understand his Indian name at birth was “Crazed Sex Poodle”.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:50am

      I’m super, super cereal.

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    • RamonPreston
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:58pm

      @NOHOPE I see you listened to Chuck Missler’s sermon.

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:10pm

    Though I really doubt Roswell ever happened, it is interesting to noet that a whole bunch of new technology came on the scene a couple years later.

    Sort of makes one wonder…

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    • mark81150
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:28am

      Right after WW II< a lot of technology like jet engines were just coming online in 1947. A lot of new stuff designed to fight the Nazi's.. some joint programs with the Brits.. Hi-tech recovered from German bases, plus their engineers defecting to the US rather than risk a Russian internment camp..

      Mostly why there was a big leap in technology during that period,.. a lot of research was done that only matured after the war.

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  • PeteHDO
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:08pm

    Do you UFO believers have any idea of time, distance, and speed involved in 1 light year? Quick, how many light years is the nearest star from planet earth?

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:12pm

      Six, if you take the short cut.

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    • freeberty
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:13pm

      Thanks Petehdo

      I think a reporter was taking advantage of a very old confused man, the reason he had pulse on his mind was because he had just filled his diaper.

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    • dsind
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:13pm

      11 lt yrs?

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:16pm

      Even if I say: you’ll say I looked it up.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:18pm

      The bianary star system of Alpha Centuri if I recall correctly is about 4.3 light years; at some 5.8 trillion miles per year. So for a spaceship to reach here at light speed, only if somehow they were advanced enough to find a way to bend or fold space-time could it reasonably be done, theoretically.

      Sounds to me though that this Air Force Official has a book or film coming up on Roswell.

      Either that or he has discovered why we wound up with Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi on earth.

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    • Old_Warrior
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:18pm

      4 and a half. Alpha Centauri. Closest star system.

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    • JoeKing
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:19pm

      Uh, 93M miles?

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:25pm

      That would be Alpha Centuri actually 3 stars
      Proxima being the closest at 4.22 light years
      unless you’re doing a trick question then it would be the Sun.
      93 million miles

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    • elimenopee
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:38pm

      Per Wiki Answers:

      “The sun is about 8.31 Light Minutes away from earth.”

      That’s less time than it takes to get to our nearest Chic-Fil-A.

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    • PeteHDO
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:43pm

      Gold star for Flipper.

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    • BOhastoGO
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:46pm

      5 if your wife is not navigating

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    • seeker9
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:57pm

      If you knew the secrets of quantum entanglement, errr. I speak to much. Live long and prosper.

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    • old construction worker
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:03am

      “4 min,Captain, using warp speed 12 and a wormhole” Scotty

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:09am

      I Like BOHASTOGO’s Answer Best LOL

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:17am

      Who is this Pretty young Lady ELI
      Must be a Conservative
      Pretty an Smart can’t be a Liberal

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:32am

      Wait a minute I reread your Question
      I’m not a UFO believer
      Although I like Eli’s Theory on the
      origins an parentage of Al Gore.
      Astronomy is just one of my Hobbies.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 7:57am

      If you have access to dimensions outside of length, width, height, and time it’s irrelevant.

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    • starman70
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:06am

      If any civilization is even 100,000 years ahead of us, our present scientific knowledge would to them, be like rubbing 2 sticks together to start a fire. Just reflect on the scientific advances made just in the past 50 years. These beings would be so far advanced that we couldn’t even imagine the advances they have achieved. Wormholes, space warps and other quantum science would be grade school topics for their children. Travel across trillions of light years would be childs play to them.

      I personally don’t know if these UFOs are real or not, having never seen one. There is, however, quite a body of evidence from many reliable sources that there is something strange going on. These sightings even were recorded in medeval times and artwork exists which was drawn by witnesses to these events.

      Do aliens exist? Have we been visited? Does the government know more than they are telling us? Was there really a crash of a UFO at Roswell? All these questions remain unanswered but it is an interesting field of study. Keep an open mind – - – Remember early astronomers were burned at the stake for saying the Earth wasn’t the center of the universe and that everything seen in the sky revolved around it.

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    • Stratosaurus
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:13am

      Alpha Centauri is roughly 4.7 light-years (or ~28.2 TRILLION) miles from Sol. The fastest vehicle built by man is the Voyager module, traveling at 75,000 miles per hour.
      The number of hours in an average year (365.25 days) is 8766. Speed is 75000 MPH.
      Number of miles covered per year? 657,450,000. (6.5745 X 10 raised to the 8th power)
      Distance to be covered? 28,200,000,000,000 (2.82 x 10 raised to the 13th power)
      Simple math gives you the length of time needed to travel to Alpha Centauri.
      2.82 +13/6.5745 +8 = 0.42892995 +5 or 4.2892995 +4 or 42892.995 YEARS, at current best speed. Let’s call it 43,000 years, in case they passengers want to stop for a burger.

      Current string-theory physicists confirm the possibility of an Einstein-Rosen bridge (wormhole), but have yet to postulate how such a portal can be created, much less directed to a specific coordinate. Think sci-fi series “Farscape”.

      Sol is ~10 BILLION light-years from center of the universe. This planet is ~4.5 billion years old. Is it possible that civilizations have risen and developed at or near this central point? The odds are close to 100%.

      Look how rapidly this planet evolved tech-wise in 150 years. Now try to imagine a planet on which they have been evolving tech-wise for a BILLION years longer. Who could have predicted the growth of personal computers even forty years ago? I was in high-tech for most of my life, and I didn’t see it coming in 1972.

      Who knows what others have don

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    • bertr
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:22am

      We’re dealing with the unknown, there’s really no need to stick to travelers from other solar systems as the only answer when devling in complete speculation. They could be from the distant past, or future, another deminsion, have a base here or close in space, or they could be from some place that hasnt even been concieved by humanity yet, that would all be closer and perhaps much easier to traverse then deep space.
      Who knows what they are, but there‘s a lot more about the universe we live in that we’ll never know then we ever will

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    • Mark13
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:09am

      Non-sequiter, your facts are uncoordinated!

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    • seeker9
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:06pm

      Strato, you are well versed in electronics. Just curious, I have heard AirForce1 is protected from EMP. Maybe a ferrous mesh for shielding?
      But the important question: How much do you know about quatum entanglement? Just fascinated with it my self.

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  • getitgotitgood
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:03pm

    UFO, bull crap.

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  • chips1
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:59pm

    Give me a break. They did in fact have those weapons back then and we actually used them in the movie, “Earth vs Flying Saucers”. I saw it. In fact, there are so many of them that they keep knocking down trees in my back yard all the time. Ask anyone in Missouti. They will tell you!!!!

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  • RetiredAmericanNavyTaxpayer
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:55pm

    Ok, let’s see the debris and any surviving artifacts. Also I want to see test results on all surviving materials showing that they are not of Earth origin / human manufacture. Otherwise I’m calling B S on the whole “this guy told this other guy who told it to his cousin who told it to his high school science teacher who told it to me before he died” story.

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    • lookatthefactsjack
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:33am

      Just a thought……WHY??????
      why would we shoot it down?
      Did they threaten us?
      Could interstellar intelligence kick our 1940′s butt?
      why would the gov’ment hide it?
      why did the aliens only send 1 rescue saucer?
      HMMMMMMM

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  • vtxphantom
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:53pm

    Curious that this should come out now, at this time. I still want to seen Dirty Barry’s college transcripts. NOW!

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  • Hickory
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:51pm

    This story kind of smells a little.

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  • lel2007
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:47pm

    Too bad the air force couldn’t employ those 1947 “electromagnetic pulse” weapons in Korea or Vietnam. I guess they wanted to fight the old fashioned way, with bullets and missiles.

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  • seeker9
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:45pm

    BS! Electromagnetic pulse weapons in 1947? They barely knew radar and magnetrons, much less able to direct and aim them and protect our own plane from said pulse. Certainly could not have put it on an airplane anyway (electronics was not exactly miniaturized back then).

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    • txjb
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:04pm

      You should know that other things are invented ( or stumbled upon ) while trying to invent something else .

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    • dgonzalez01
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:20pm

      Try reading up on Tesla.

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    • seeker9
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:50pm

      Oh, I know a little about Tesla. He was trying to transmit electrical power (wireless electrical lenergy). Hmmm. Didn’t seem to work out. Did benefit Marconi’s radio work though.
      Have to go. Reading up on quantum entanglement. Now that is weird stuff!

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    • Stratosaurus
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:42am

      Radar was developed by the British BEFORE WWII. The Chain Home radar system was a decisive factor in the Battle of Britain in 1940-41. EMP destruction of electronic components was not discovered until use of solid-state electronics in the military became wide-spread in the mid-to-late 50s. Vacuum-tube electronics are not effected as severely as solid-state devices because of the inter-electrode gaps inside vacuum tubes.

      Soviet military electronics well into the 80s used minitature and ultra-miniature vacuum-tube electronics in their aircraft and military vehicles for that very reason. When Viktor Belenko defected to Japan in a MiG-25 in 1976, American military experts were amazed to find that all the electrical systems were, in fact, vacuum tube designs in order to increase rad-hard durability of the aircraft.

      Do you understand what causes the EMP effect? Gamma radiation can penetrate through most solid objects, including up to three feet of concrete and one foot of lead. When solid-state devices are subjected to gamma-ray bombardment, the junctions between the various elements of individual devices (emitter-base and base-collector junctions in bipolar devices, and source-gate or gate-drain in MOS devices) are physically destroyed. Their ability to control signals and current is no longer viable. Those junctions cannot be repaired. The devices must be replaced.

      In vacuum tubes, there is no contact between elements. No phyisical destruction.

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  • kalli
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Wow, any bets this man is a leftist progressive? The debunker was suppose to debunk all the bunk reported by the actual people who supposedly witnessed what needed debunking. Too funny.

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    • Caballosinnombre
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:17am

      If the technology wasn’t available back then, then it sounds like he is trying to debunk himself. For whatever reason, who knows.

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  • Bruce P.
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:43pm

    “The first one was shot down by an experimental U.S. airplane that was flying out of White Sands, N.M., and it shot what was effectively an electronic pulse-type weapon that disabled and took away all the controls of the UFO, and that’s why it crashed.”

    Complete and total nonsense.

    If an alien craft were engineered to survive the rigors of space, it would be designed to withstand electromagnetic pulses, otherwise it would die anytime a nearby star let loose a solar-flare. A relatively primitive weapon, as any 1940s EMP weapon would have been, could not have brought it down.

    He’s talking out of his behind. There was no alien crash as Roswell.

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:53am

      @ Bruce
      We don’t generally Agree; but that’s What I was Thinking when I Read
      this Story. Any Craft that couldnt withstand Electromagnetic Pulses.
      Would not Stand a Chance in Intergalactic Space Travel.

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    • mark81150
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:31am

      I agree.. nonsense.. just an old officer cashing in on having been there, he knows that some will believe him, enough to get him his 15 minutes of fame..

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:04pm

      he maybe right he maybe wrong but he was there, were you?writeings on walls of structures thousands of years old show us spacecrafts.little gold figurines from ancient structures in columbia are of spacecraft and planes.so ya think that et‘s wouldn’t know how or why to build a mother ship.do you believe were the only life in this unimagenibly big universe.billions of solar systems like ours where born and died before ours even coagulated.billions or trillions of galaxys .around for billions of years and were the only intelligent life in the history of the universe.how islamic thinking of you(backwards).

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  • Calm Voice of Reason
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:42pm

    The most probable explanation I ever heard was that it was a Japanese fire balloon. It matches most accounts that there were odd materials with “strange” characters written upon them. That would also explain the way the Army/Air Force reacted to the crash site. It is known that the Office of Censorship (a very real thing in WWII) ordered newspapers to pull stories about fire balloons.
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon)

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:06pm

      That was John Keel’s theory, but I do not buy it. It would have had to be floating around for 2 year past the end of the war.

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  • rbcintexas
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:41pm

    Saying that we did not have the technology back then is questionable at best. Look at our steal fighters the F117A. The body design is almost identical as a fighter prototype that the American military found after the fall of the Third Reicht. Yes, Hitler had some amazing technology that he was about to start using including the jet engine just before the fall. There were American fighter pilots who were stunned when the German jet blew past them as they flew their prop planes so in short, we may have had the technology back then. It just was not good enough to go into production yet.

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    • seeker9
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:54pm

      Was not aware they found anything like the F117 (diamond faceted). They did find a flying wing design there similar to the B2. The Brits pioneered the jet engine, but due to lack of interest, wound up in Germany.

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