Revealed — The Left’s Economic Terrorism Playbook: The Chase Campaign by a Coalition of Unions, Community Groups, Lawmakers and Students to Take Down US Capitalism and Redistribute Wealth & Power
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PRESENTATION
W: We’re going to hear from Steve Lerner next, of SEIU, the Architect of the Justice for Janitors campaign. Currently, he’s working on partnering with unions and groups in Europe and South America, it’s building campaigns to hold financial institutions accountable.
S. Lerner: It seems to me that we’re in a moment where we need to figure out in a much more, through direct action, much more concrete way how we really are trying to disrupt and create uncertainty for capital, for how corporations operate. And it may sound like that’s a crazy thing that in a moment of weakness we could deal with it, but the thing about a boom and bust economy, it is actually incredibly fragile, because it’s not based on real way, well, it’s based on gambling and all of that. And so there are actually extraordinary things that we could do right now that would start to de, destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement. And for example, 10% of homeowners, going back to where you started, who are under, a quarter of all people who own a home are under water. Right? Their home is under water, they’re paying more for it than it’s worth. Ten percent of those people are now in strategic default, meaning they’re refusing to pay but they’re staying in their homes. That’s totally spontaneous. Right? They figured out it takes a year to kick me out of my home because the mort, the foreclosure’s backed up. I’m going to say I won’t pay. It’s just what business does, it’s a good, a good business decision. If you could double that number, you would make banks, put banks on the edge of insolvency again.
And so the question would be, what would happen if we organized homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike. Just say if we get, and, and, if we get half a million people to agree, we’ll all not, we’ll agree we won’t pay our mortgages, it would literally cause a new financial crisis.
There are four things we can do that could really upset Wall Street. One is if city and state and other government entities demanded to renegotiate their debt because they’re paying too much interest. And you might say, well why would the banks ever do it? Because they, the cities and counties could say we won’t do this and this in the future with you if you don’t renegotiate the debt now. Meaning, about a third of bank profits generate from dealing with cities and states. So we could leverage the power we have of government to say we won’t do business with you, JP Morgan Chase, anymore unless you do two things: you reduce the price of our interest, since your interest rate is down; and second, you rewrite the mortgages for everybody in the community so they can stay in their homes. We, we could make them do that.
The second thing is there’s a whole question in New York now about austerity and student’s rates and the question of the debt structure. What would happen if students said we’re not going to pay? It’s a trillion dollars. Think about your …sweeping that debt, a trillion dollars from students debt?
There’s a third thing that we could think about, what about if public employee unions, instead of them being on the defensive, put on the collective bargaining table when they negotiate they said we demand as a condition of negotiation that the government renegotiate, we want, we believe in good financial management. It’s crazy that you’re paying too much interest to your buddy the bankers. It’s a strike issue for us. We will strike unless you force the banks to relieve the debt of the city. I’m not going to go through all the detail except to say there’s extraordinary things we could do and if you add on top of that, if we really thought about moving to the kind of disruption in Madison, but moving that to Wall Street and moving that to other cities around the country where we basically said you stole $17 trillion, you’ve impoverished us and we’re going to make it impossible for, for you to operate.
Labor can’t lead it, but we can be a critical part of it. We do have money, we have millions of members who are furious, but I don’t think this kind of movement can happen unless actually the community groups and other activists take the lead. And that’s a big reversal of how a lot of these coalitions have even thought about it, so unions helping community groups, or communities who cover this narrowly. And if you’re se, if we really believe that we’re in a transformative stage and what’s happening in capitalism, and we need to confront this in a serious way and develop a real ability to put a boot in the wheel, then I think we have to think not about labor community alliances. We have to think about how together we’re building something that really has the capacity to disrupt how the system operates.
And so I just, I guess raise that we need a whole new way of thinking about things, which is not a partnership, but building something new. Because the bottom line is, as soon as the union gets sued, it’s going to be terrifying. When we get an injunction that says, you know, you, un, the union backs down. So we need to build a movement based on we know the oppression we’re going to face. And I think the only way we can do that is to think much more creatively, and the key thing I …is we have to say what does the other side fear most? They fear disruption, they fear uncertainty. Every article about Europe says a riot in Greece, the markets went down. The folks that control this country care about one thing: how the stock market does; how the bond market does; and what their bonus is. So I think we weed out a very simple strategy: how do we bring down the stock market, how do we bring down their bonuses, how do we interfere with their ability to, to be rich. And if we don’t do, and that means you have to politically isolate them, economically isolate them and disrupt them. So, it’s not all theory, I’ll do a pitch.
So, a bunch of us around the country are thinking about who would be a really good company to hate? We decided that would be JP Morgan Chase. …. And so we’re going to roll out over the next couple of months what will hopefully be an exciting campaign about JP Morgan Chase that is really about challenge the power of Wall Street. And so what we’re looking at is in the first week of May, we get enough people together – we’re starting now – to really have a week of action in New York with the goal of … I don’t want to go into any details because I don’t know which police agents are in the room, but the goal would be that we would roll out in New York the first week in May—
M: (Can’t hear speaker)
S. Lerner: Yes. …connect three ideas – that we’re not broke, there’s plenty of money; they have the money, we need to get it back; and that they’re using Bloomberg and other people in government as the vehicle to try to destroy us. And so that we need to take on those folks at the same time and that will start here. We’re going to look at a week of civil disobedience, direct action all over the city, then we’ll roll into the JP Morgan shareholder meeting, which they moved out of New York because they were afraid, I guess, of Columbus, where there’s going to be a ten state mobilization to try to shut down that meeting. And then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try to create some moments like Madison, except where we’re on offense instead of defense. Where we have brave and heroic battles challenging the power of the giant corporations, and we hope to sort of inspire a much bigger movement about redistributing wealth and power in the country.
W: You were talking about why unions are so invested because of their pension plans and why ungovernability, as Frances Fox Piven and Cloward taught us, you know, poor peoples’ movements are successful when they create conditions of ungovernability. And then you win victories.
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Comments (1058)
ColoradoDad
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:26amWatch for the key words coming up here in the next month, “there’s plenty of money, and it’s in the
Report Post »hands of ______”.
Gee, I wonder who has been saying that lately?
Dude Doug
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:26amThese dolts are getting very brazen…I just hope that they have over exposed themselves and can be investigated for seditious activities.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:26amWhere are the Conservatives? Oblivious to the fact these Liberals need a foot to their collective backsides. They’re not even Liberals anymore, it‘s obvious they’re hardcore Socialists. I’d hope they (Conservatives and Independents) pay attention to this finding however.
Glenn should get this in the hands of as many sources as possible. The sooner the party is broken up, the faster we can make them clean it up.
Report Post »Charles
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:01amIf by “conservative” you are referring to the pink shirted cry baby Boehner you are quite correct in saying that the “conservatives” will stand by and let our country descend into chaos
Report Post ». I would love, *love* to be somewhere when he starts getting all blubbery so I could shout out at the top of my lungs “what are you crying about you idiot? Stop taking whatever pills you’re on if you have to but stop the #@%*# boo-hoo’ing!!” He’s a loser. Like all Republicans after Regan have been once they get into a leadership role.
UlyssesP
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:25am“a Coalition of Unions, Community Groups, Lawmakers and Students”
What’s the matter thugs? Can’t handle me one on one?
Report Post »GHill7.62
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:25amwow.
yes, I am sure this will be ignored as usual..
Newtie and the Beauty
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:25amWould it be too much to believe these people’s greed is clouding their minds?
It reminds me of the joke about the dog that keeps chasing cars…what’s he going to do with one if he ever catches one?
Report Post »SingerGuy
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:24amThis kind of planning is chilling.
Report Post »Midwestgirl1116
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:54amCan you imagine if the ‘planning’ was actually to build up America?
Report Post »Primealliancecarolina
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:00pmAbsolutely. So what’s next now that the news is out?
Report Post »Primealliancecarolina
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:11pmIt should not get far is this is truly America. So my question is”How many people are willing to actually take this seriously and investigate on their own time and spread the word?” Call it whatever you want people but this is an attack on society as a whole. Without banks,no one will be able to carry on with normal everyday activities such as buying gas or food for your family. Grocery store chains and restaurants along with others I can’t think of right now will seize to operate. It won’t hurt the rich like it will hurt you!!!!!! Hell,forget about yourself for a second and think of your children. What do we leave for them. What about them?
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:24amCan we call them “enemy combatants”.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:44amI ALREADY do……….
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:46amand now,….
I’m just waiting……..
for ‘them’ to shoot first.
Report Post »LOD
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:29amWhy wait? Let’s bring the fight to them. Start hunting them down and making examples of them to other so-called “revolutionaries” that dare to go against the republic and our Constitution. Only in this country do we allow lawlessness like this to persist and do nothing about it. For fear of being labeled by some agency that is most of the time equally as criminal. Where is our line in the sand? Are you going to be able to look in your children‘s eyes years from now and say that you stood for something or that you sat back because you didn’t want to be in harms way to defend what you believe in? You aren’t going to stop this at the ballot box. These traitors must be crushed, period.
Sorry if my words are harsh and to the point. I am just absolutely fed up with this crap and never gaining any ground while the left continues to destroy my country.
Report Post »ProgressiveLiberalMarine
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:23pmYeah, start shooting… or “Crushing”… and see what happens.
Report Post »Primealliancecarolina
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:59pmI’m just curious. If we marched into Washington demanding the impeachment of Obama would they open fire on us like in Lybia? Anyone?
Report Post »Igno Ramus
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:21amPrimeAllianceCarolina
Report Post »Yeah they would. That’s what the military is paid to do. It’s their job to protect the country. You would be seen as a hostile armed force, and you would be dealt with accordingly. Soooo if you do go, understand just what you’re getting into first.
ibcrazyru2
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23amA Congressional Investigation is in order here.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:43amIt’s too late.
Report Post »Time is up!
Prepare now…
The Door Is About To Open.
LadyIzShy
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:45amsnort of yeah that will happen and if it did it wont do ANY good at all.. most of congress is the problem
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:56amIf you think a Congressional investigation will ever happen on this, your name is 110% correct.
Report Post »RED-DAWN
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23amTICK, TICK, TICK, time is running out. They WILL NOT DO ANYTHING about this. Prepare to protect you and your family.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:32amTIME IS UP!
Report Post »The Door Is About To Open
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:51am@jacobstroubles
“TIME IS UP!
The Door Is About To Open”
Feels like it, huh? The Deadly wound of Rev 13, is a wound to the world political system (NWO). This happens just b4 that system is fully consummated. That wound will bring in the anti-Christ masquerading as the REAL Savior. Satan and his angels will fool MOST of the world. He will “heal” the wound.
Report Post »en2deep
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23amOur nation is on the brink folks,guard your loins and prepare. Many will dismiss this as Koch brother propaganda, don’t be deceived. Our nation is in crisis, just what this regime wants, after all a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:28amGuard my loins? Is somebody going to be trying to stab my loins?
I think you meant “gird your loins”. :)
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:34amAs old as I am it has been a long time since I have had to worry about someone trying to mess with my loins.
Report Post »Igno Ramus
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:13amEnd2Deep
Report Post »Don‘t you mean ’gird’ your loins? I sure hope so. I got enough a$$ to worry about guardin’. LMBFAO
TheCelt
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23amErrr…Schmoos out there – haven’t you YET noticied that the Left and Wall Street are the SAME?
Report Post »elkaypee
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23amGame on! Now lets see how the MSM ignores this story as well!
Report Post »Maggie in Indiana
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:08pmUmm I’m not seeing it anywhere on the MSM. Think it will make the cut?
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:22amHolder won’t touch this. These are HIS people.
Report Post »colonial10
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:51amHe may not touch them but this next election we will remove them. It’s up to the good union supporters to bring these people down. The thugs are going to use these peoples monies to do this.
Report Post »1Dave
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:22amObama is supporting these KOOKS. The FBI must act on it’s own to arrest and stop these Economic Terrorists NOW.
Report Post »1Dave
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:38amOh, and anyone stupid enough to throw their homes away in support of this SEIU movement, they deserve to lose them.
Report Post »Hopefully the homes will then be turned over to needy Great Americans.
kreese
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:56amObama “is”one of these KOOKS!
How much longer will the American people allow this REGIME, that is exactly what it is, to stay in power?
Report Post »taebaggranny
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:06pm@ DAVE WOW!! What a great idea..Turn over the homes that are abandoned by SEIU members to the NEEDY great Americans?? How about the needy getting a job and busting their butts to get the home they want?? That’s the American way. Too many have had everything handed to them already and that’s one of the reasons our country is in the shape it is right now…I’m not talking about the elderly that are on Social Security..They, for the most part, paid into that system..I’m talking about the leeches that are on WELFARE, never worked and have no desire to do so as long as the checks keep coming and the addition of each child gives them a raise…You can go to any public library and read the HUGH regulations on what the LAZY, YOU OWE ME’S can get just by having a baby and saying that the father is not in the home or is unemployed..I’m, again, not saying that ALL recipients are in those catagories, just that the majority are…Why do you think that the cost of the Welfare funds are never broken out in the charts that they show for entitlements in the budget pie?? Because the taxpayers would be outraged by the amount of their money that is given to the Illegals, the unwed (who make this a way of life) and the number of people that are on the rolls that claim their spouses have left them with a houseful of kids and the women have no work experience or training…+
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:21amNo, do not ignore this or them, they may actually be able to pull this off; these terrorists need to be exposed and brought into the light fully. This group, like the administration, seeks to pull down the nation so many of us love, and if we stand by and do nothing, then the darkness shall win.
expatinontariocanada
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:21amTreason! People…wake up! We have treasonous traitors in our midst. They must be rounded up, prosecuted, punished…NOW!
Chet Hempstead
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:23pmYou can’t commit treason against a bank, because they are technically not supposed to be ruling the country.
Report Post »WhatWasIThinking?
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:03amwhy?
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:20amWOW! Listening to Glenn’s radio show. THIS IS HUGE!
Death to the New World Order — Satan’s scheme.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:38amAmen!
Report Post »facts
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:38amLOLOL! Riiiiiiiiiiight. wow
Report Post »enduro
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:06amcontact your local congressional reps and demand that they investigate now! call or write. Your country needs you.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:46amso FACTS do you deny that their are very powerful political figures and super wealthy individuals that are internationalists that desire to see a New World Order heralded in with a world central bank and a global governing body???????? Wow is right. That you are that ignorant of the world and what is going on. Do a little research into who and what mechanisms are already in place.
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:58pmYes but these people are bankers and free marketeers, not powerless unionists
Report Post »ZAH
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:30pmKurwa says: “Yes but these people are bankers and free marketeers, not powerless unionists”
Do you really think that free marketers want (as Watch said) “a world central bank and a global governing body”???
Report Post »klevalt
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:20amAmazing! there are enough out there who will do it…
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 3:02pmWatch-Troll-Zah
Here’s my favorite thing when it comes to trolls (like ABC and Kurwa) that have the audacity to use the words “logic” and “reason” in their arguments:
After using either or both words, they then proceed to violate one of the fundamental principles of reason/logic/thought. It is the Principle of contradiction.
The traditional source of the Principle of Contradiction is Aristotle’s Metaphysics where he gives three different versions.[3]
ontological: “It is impossible that the same thing belong and not belong to the same thing at the same time and in the same respect.” (1005b19-20)
psychological: “No one can believe that the same thing can (at the same time) be and not be.” (1005b23-24)
logical: “The most certain of all basic principles is that contradictory propositions are not true simultaneously.” (1011b13-14)
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo….. here are a few examples of how they VIOLATE this fundamental rule-
If they believe that we are truly idiots, then they cannot believe that we are truly not idiots. If you believe we cannot be reasoned with, it is then BY DEFINITION illogical, unreasonable to attempt to do so.
If they do not truly believe we are idiots, but say that we are, then they are engaging in lying. It is impossible for a man to be a liar and “not be” a liar at the same time-so in the moment they prove themselves to be liars, they cannot also prove that they are trustworthy.
If ABC insists that it is TRUE that The Blaze moderator(s) removes all of his posts that contain logic and fact, then by default it must also be TRUE that whenever his posts are not removed, they contain no logic or fact.
If some of his posts that remain public DO contain fact and logic, then his premise about WHY The Blaze is removing certain ones (they are afraid of fact and logic) is FALSE.
And folks, the example just keep coming and coming! People with well reasoned, empirical, evidence bearing arguments who adhere to principles of reason and thought will always try to avoid engaging in tactics that would discredit them or their reasoning. These people almost always immediately resort to name calling or insults because their arguments are so weak that they must focus the conversation elsewhere in order to control its direction. Their very behavior reveals exactly what they are attempting to hide.
Report Post »ZAH
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:49pmJabber–
I have often noted that liberalism is not constrained by logic, especially the law of contradiction. (Moral relativism is a case in point, as if morality is relative, then the case could arise wherein you regard as moral something I hold to be immoral, as it is impossible for something to be both moral and immoral, then morality must be absolute.)
….errrr…I mean, Ah be‘s a’ ignrent rednek. ;)
Report Post »vngstr
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:20amI have been saying this for 4 years that this had to be happening…
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:04pmYou mean you mindlessly repeat what Mr Beck has been telling you for the last year?
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:55pmKURWA….has been outed as a liberal from down under and is the mindless one that spouts what he has been fed through very well organized propaganda through the media and “higher education” as a supposed better or wiser ideology. Critical thinking is not a liberal strong suit.
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:25pmVNGSTR said: “I have been saying this for 4 years that this had to be happening…”
KURWA replied to that: “You mean you mindlessly repeat what Mr Beck has been telling you for the last year?”
Kurwa, thank you so much for demonstrating your ability to keep things enlightened, fair, and logical. It‘s so much easier for us to dismiss your comments when we don’t have to do all the work to reveal who and what you are!
I’ll need some recent statistics to validate your claims that America is so much more dangerous than Australia. I realize NationMaster.com‘s stats aren’t all that up to date, but according to them:
Report Post »in the “Total Crime Victims” category (people victimized by crime as a % of the total population) they have AUSTRALIA listed as #1! (The US is listed as #15)
Rapes occur twice as often in your country than mine (per capita) and so do “assaults”, and 85% of Americans report feeling safe walking in the dark compared to 64% of Australians.
Jabber
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:34pmWATCH-it’s worse than that even……apparently ABC feels a kindred spirit in kurwa as well! Strike two.
And hey, Kurwa, your so obviously mature, reasoned, intelligent, and (I’m sure) factual crack about Watch’s trailer park? Ouch.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:55pm@ JABBER….thanks for the crime stats. I am afraid we will see no more of our down under liberal friend. He misstated what socialism was, what his countries crime rates are, he is brainwashed and then wants to call others mindless. Go figure…Where is one of those pink unicorns that poop bubble gum when you need one (ie many “facts” KURWA posted). Darn facts always get in the way of a good propaganda post !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The liberals eternal frustration.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:03pm@ JABBER……BTW were you kiddin‘ me about livin’ in a trailer park? lol…. I manage a trailer park !!!!!!!
Report Post »No not really. I really run a stud farm for pink unicorns. Trailer parking is my hobby. Oh that is sad I laughed at my own post lol.
Jabber
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:22pmWATCH-
But, when they can refute us so well with “neener neener” and “I know you are but what am I?” why worry about the facts??
Does Fruit Stripe gum come from pink unicorns or zebras? I always get those two mixed up.
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:31pmWATCH-
Kurwa said “And by seeing the world I don’t mean going for a walk around your trailer park.” in one of his/her replies to you. I just found it rather hypocritical coming from someone whose worldview is so much more logical and intelligent than ours is.
I know better than to insult trailer park folk or ranch hands for that matter. Grew up near both and not only can they be mighty fine people, they are often excellent marksmen too. :)
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:41pmGrew up for 7 years of my early childhood in a trailer. Parents were farmers and eventually did very well for themselves. Nothing wrong at all about where someone lives unless of course you are an Aussie elitist. I guess I missed that personal jab. Not shocking though they always get their jabs in about how much better they think they are……………Once again I appreciate your thoughts and comments, very thoughtful. We may not have agreed on the Sharia law thing but I love to know what people are thinking and how they view something(good thing to cause I have been known to be wrong (ha ha) and that helps me see things from different perspectives). Keep it up my friend keep it up !!!
Proverbs 26:12
Report Post »Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them.
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:46pm“I manage a trailer park !!!!!!!”
hhaahaha I rest my case . Look i have nothiing against trailer park folk who get their news from glenn beck and think europe and aus are socialist countries, I’m just saying they need to travel the world first and check out the variety of opinions out there.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 7:09pm@ Down Under Aussie apparantly you responded too quick and responded before you read my whole post. It was a Joke. I REST MY CASE elitist arrogant liberal.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 7:10pmI am a physician !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 7:32pm@ KURWA………..I bet anything I have traveled more than you. Which really has nothing to do with anything unless you are a moral relativist and form your opinion about truth based on fallen man’s ideas and thoughts (I assume you probably are a moral relativist as most liberals are). Truth is truth regardless of where you travel. You have exposed your elitist attitude, your dishonesty in your posts and your hypocrisy. Your battin’ a 1000 so far. Keep it up if you want I guess, but the hole you are digging for yourself continues to get deeper. Just like the “stuff” your peddling.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 7:52pmThe funny thing is that in espousing his wisdom and loftiness he has actually exposed his ignorance and arrogance.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 8:01pmI just want to know how much ABC makes trolling The Blaze. I may be interested in working for his employers too. I can use some extra money as long as it pays decently. I can read the script and give a canned response.
Call me ABC…
Report Post »ZAH
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 8:46pm@TrollTrainer–
Read the script? Heck, I could write it:
“All you redneck losers who believe Beck and bow to your corporate masters, the top 1% who have 95% of the wealth (and you want give them tax breaks?), are just idiots who hate people!”
Etc., etc…
Report Post »That’s about all I ever hear from the left, anyway—all their “arguments” seem to be little more than banal variations on an already banal theme that runs something like that, even ABC’s verbose pontifications.
FEDupFRANK
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:27amKURWA You seem to want a lot of free stuff. What I want to know is AT WHOS EXPENSE?
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:19amProgressives are everywhere and we have let them take the lead with their efforts to organize for the accomplishment of their goals. It’s time for those of us who want to restore the Constitution as the controlling factor as intended by the founders….Individual Freedom
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:42pmKurwa-
How interesting!
May I remind you that your initial comment that I replied to was that the US “has a higher crime rate” than Australia. It did not specify “murder” as the ONLY crime in which the US has a higher rate than Aus.
You posted BOTH countries satistics regarding “murder” because the United States does indeed have a higher murder rate than Australia. But you posted only ONE country’s statistics regarding “rape” – the United States is indeed #9. Why didn‘t you also post the FACT that Australia’s rape statistic is HIGHER-Australia is #3???
ABC should be along here soon to point out that you are “ignoring the facts” when they don’t support your arguments (like he says GB does), or “making up facts” to do the same thing. Not calling you out would make him a hypocrite.
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:18amSo Beck wants us to believe that the now Janitors are going to destroy the country? Is that mop really a mop or is a tool to redisribute wealth. ? This is getting ridiculous. Its obvious the real problem is big business that have taken over big goverment but Glenn won’t touch that issue with a 8 foot pole. It’s so much easier to deflect and blame people that are inconsequential and unimportant.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:25amwow, you are ill-informed.
en2deep
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:27amHe has addressed that issue where Gov’t and business merge,it’s called fascism.
Report Post »1Dave
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:29amKurwa YOU are part of the problem.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:29amThese are not Becks words. Wake up America. This is treason. They are starting a Civil war. Prepare yourself now.
Report Post »Newtie and the Beauty
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:30amWith all due respect, you should really clean your ears out and LISTEN once in a while:
Architect of the groundbreaking Justice for Janitors campaign, Stephen Lerner has spent more than three decades successfully uniting hundreds of thousands of janitors, farm workers, garment workers, and other low-wage workers into unions and lifting entire communities out of poverty.
Lerner currently directs SEIU’s banking and finance campaign, mobilizing SEIU members and other community groups across the country into action to break the decades-long stranglehold Wall Street and big banks have had on our economy and democracy. Through this campaign SEIU is also partnering with unions and groups in Europe, South America, and elsewhere to build a campaign to hold financial institutions accountable in a global economy.
In his previous role as director of the union’s private equity project, Lerner launched a multi-year campaign to expose the overleveraged, unregulated and unsustainable feeding frenzy of private equity firms during the boom years and the economic disaster that would follow once the bubble burst.
Lerner is a frequent contributor on national television and radio programs and has published numerous articles charting a path for a 21st century labor movement focused on growth and meeting the challenges of a global economy.
Look it up yourself on HuffPo…
438_3176
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:31amis this eric holder? come on, you can say it……we know only he would make that leap.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:32amAs Lenin put it “useful idiots” and he had never even met you.
Beckofile
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:32amIs it that big business controls government or does big government control big business? One is called corruption and the other is fascism. What about big union or big education. My kids can’t afford to attend the University anymore while the tenured teachers have huge pensions and barely spend time in the classroom? We would not experience one of these problems if we stuck with the road map of Limited government.
Report Post »ColoradoDad
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:34amUseful idiot!
Report Post »Pezman
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:34amSo…. If I”m to understand you correctly…. We should all ignore what these people are planning? Since our identities are all ‘hidden’ here, I need to ask. Were you at this meeting?
Report Post »Dude Doug
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:37amEver heard of Justice for Janitors ????
Report Post »Charles
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:42amHe is in close cooperation with seiu etc. Writing him off as a nobody janitor with a mop is what he needs people to do so he can in fact bring our nation to its knees.
Report Post »More than ever. UNION? NO! When I was a kid working at GE I noticed my fellow union members speaking like communists while waving the American flag. I told them they were espousing communist ideals and they were not happy to hear it.
a true texan
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:55amYou are completely wrong but if you ever watched an episode you would know that.
Report Post »Besides the president picked up the socialist mop 1st!
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:55amReds under the Bed! Reds under the Bed! Seriously are you people stuck in 1956? We have much more pressing issues than a bunch of radicals who have no power.
Report Post »streetrodder
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:01am@kurwa, Go back to sleep, you don’t have a clue.
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:04am“My kids can’t afford to attend the University anymore ”
See in civilised countries goverments provide interest free loans to anyone that wants to go to University and has the academic results to do so. But in America such common sense is condemned as Socialism and Evil. Same with Single Payer.. Works great everywhere else.
And thus while you fruitlessly blame the unions and the goverment your children remain uneducated and used as a source of profit when sick
Enjoy. Your. Dream.
drbage
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:22amDon’t think that the literal version of janitors for revolution and overthrow is the whole picture, just a small pixel in the big picture. All those “teachers” who staged the weeks’ long sit-in In Madison–how many were actually teachers especially after the first week? Look to a couple of statements from union leaders: Andy Stern(former head of SEIU): “First we will try to power of persuasion and if that doesn’t work, we will use the persuasion of power.” Rocco Landesman(head of NEA): “We have power because we have millions of members who willingly pay millions of dollars in dues.” The irony for me in Mr. Landesman’s statement is the use of the word, “willingly.” Using his logic, I guess we could say that 52% of Americans willingly pay taxes so 48% of Americans can pay no taxes. We were told throughout the O’s campaign that he was going to fundamentally tranform America. Then and now, I ask into what is it going to be transformed. Currently, the O is saying that Qaddafi must go and I want to know to where is he going. The O and his acolytes have been saying that America needs to be more like Europe. Which Europe? The collective Europe of today that is running away as fast as it can from the nanny-state, government knows best system that is bankrupting it or the individual Europe of 10 or 20 years ago that thought its system was best and just kept kicking the financial can further and further down the road.
Report Post »monalisa5
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:25amWhy are you making this about Glenn Beck? All you have to do is listen to the TAPE!! Just LISTEN, LISTEN…..can you not hear it for yourself?
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:34am@monalisa5
Report Post »yes i listened, but my point is that the people on this tape have as much influence in america as a bunch of klan members having a meeting.
You understand?
fnfal
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:12amSo do you think Glenn himself made this tape in his lair, you idiot. When will you open your eyes and see the truth of the progressive people you are a subject of. Do you not get that you will lose as much as any.To your heroes, you are dust. In our crazy right wing world, we’re already equal. It’s up to the individual to make oneself better or worse.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:41amKURWA ……..has exposed that they hail from a socialistic country based upon their spelling of civilized with an (s). Your are dealing with someone who has already been turned into a society vampire. Probably no hope for them unless the head vampire is killed. This person has absolutely no clue what they are talking about and are arrogant about their ignorance to boot. He who is wise in his own eyes, there is more hope for a fool. Proverbs.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:49amKURWA- you really don’t get it. You are playing right into the haves vs. have nots. BOO-Hoo you can’t afford the universities….. first of all, that is propaganda. That is not my job as a parent. 2nd I hope my kids don’t go to any federally funded college. Then they’ll be brainwashed morons who need an expert.- A has been drip under pressure.
Report Post »You a my dear are a zombie.
You show an attraction to entitlements.
If you want more get another job. Do something for yourself. I have to.
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:54am@watchtheotherhand
So a country is socialistic if it spells civilised with an S? Get back to me when you have actually seen a bit of the world so we can have an semi-inteligent discussion. And by seeing the world I don’t mean going for a walk around your trailer park.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:05pm@ KURWA……your country’s governing documents may mean your government is like a benevolent sugar daddy to you but the US constitution does not permit our government to provide free stuff even though they have overstepped their limits on power and do in many areas. Their charge is to protect our liberties and rights against all threats foreign and domestic. We emphasize personal responsibility and that each individual is responsible for their welfare. Of course people have unfortunate things happen but that is why America has been and still is the most generous nation ever to exist on an individual level in the history of mankind sending aid to other countries and the less fortunate in our own borders when they take responsibility for their actions (if a man shall not work he shall not eat). However, the mentality of your socialistic country stifles charity as is factually proven based on the international charity generated from socialistic countries on a personal level. Go check the statistics for yourself. This is one reason America is faltering because they act as the social police by trying to make things equal and usher in a semi-socialist form of your government much like the one I am sure you live in. Your ideas really relieve the individual of responsibility in many ways and allows for an entitlement mentality that also then stifles motivation and responsibility for ones own actions. Just take a little lQQksee at the shape most forms of your government are in around the world financially. Not a pretty picture is it. Even though America is shaking because of our tendencies toward your ideas for government rather than remaining true to the founders ideas about what our government should be and do, we still remain the strongest economic power in the world by a fair margin. And guess how we got there. By capitalism and individual responsibility and a foundation that started on faith in God for the most part. Socialism sure does equalize people economically………….by bringing everyone down, not improving the living standard.
Report Post »LAM2
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:06pmKurwa — why are you trying so hard to convice others (or perhaps yourself?) that these people have no real power and can’t affect anything? We‘re already hearing reports that there are multiple entries of Stephen Lerner’s name on the White House guest logs? If that is true, he has influence that goes all the way to the highest levels of our government. The truth has no agenda; you’re quite persistent in your effort to marginalize this story. What exactly is your agenda??
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:08pm@ KURWA then where do you live????????????????????????????????????????
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:15pm@ KURWA………….You know I am right. Let’s see how truthful of a person you are. Most English speaking countries uses an (s) rather than z. And if you are Australian your government is about as democratic anymore as Russia. You may be a soft socialistic country but you are socialistic nonetheless. If you are European then case closed obviously. So which is it if you are a truthful person?
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:20pm“US constitution does not permit our government to provide free stuff”
The constitution has nothing to say on the subject, either for or against. And its not about free stuff its about making an investment in people so later they can give back to society and make it better through individual effort. The same applies to business, export grants etc. I live in Australia, hardly a socialistic country but one that is based on the idea of a ‘fair go’ and the common sense notions.
Did you ever stop to think of what the term social security means? You support people to maintain a safe social enviroment. Why does america have the worst crime rates, the worst homeless problem , the worst and most expensive medical system compared to europe?
Why in Australia am i safe to walk into any suburb in any major city with no problems of getting mugged or shot by criminals. Because we relize that sometimes its better to give out unemployment benefits to people to have a safe and harmonious society.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:22pm@ KURWA……you hail from a socialistic country because base don your spelling and you proclamation that your government provides interest free money to students. That‘s why so what is your country let’s hear share it with the rest of us. Come on. Out yourself, unless of course you are a dishonest person.
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:22pm@watchtheotherhand
A socialist country discourages private ownership and private business , Australia and Europe are free market economies with common sense social welfare safety nets.
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:26pm@Lam2
Report Post »“We‘re already hearing reports that there are multiple entries of Stephen Lerner’s name on the White House guest logs?”
Source?
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:36pm@ KURWA…………Nice dodge but you have been outed and busted and socialism does not outlaw private ownership. It is a merger of both private and government ownership. You are dishonest and you have been found out and I was right all along. You won’t admit it. But everyone that reads these threads knows who you are in general and where you are form. And you have no clue what the intent of our founders were so if you want to go there lets have it !!!!!!!
Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.[1][2][3] A socialist society is organized on the basis of relatively equal power-relations, self-management, dispersed decision-making (adhocracy) and a reduction or elimination of hierarchical and bureaucratic forms of administration and governance; the extent of which varies in different types of socialism.[4][5] This ranges from the establishment of cooperative management structures to the abolition of all hierarchical structures in favor of free association.
As an economic system, socialism is the direct allocation of capital goods (means of production) to meet economic demands so that production is oriented toward use and accounting is based on some physical magnitude, such as calculation-in-kind, or a direct measure of labour time.[6][7] Goods and services for consumption are distributed through markets, and distribution of income is based on individual merit/individual contribution.[8]
Market socialism retains the process of capital accumulation, but subjects investment to social control, utilizing the market to allocate the factors of production. The profit generated by publicly owned firms would go to a social dividend, which would be used for public investment or public finance. Market socialist theories range from libertarian theories like mutualism, to theories based on Neoclassical economics like the Lange Model.
The ownership of the means of production can be based on direct ownership by the users of the productive property through worker cooperative; or commonly owned by all of society with management and control delegated to those who operate/use the means of production; or public ownership by a state apparatus. Public ownership may refer to the creation of state-owned enterprises, nationalisation or municipalisation. The fundamental feature of a socialist economy is that publicly owned, worker-run institutions produce goods and services in at least the commanding heights of the economy.[17][18]
. Socialism has been proposed in many forms. Perhaps the most popular form is social democracy, in which workers vote for their supervisors, company policy, and industry representatives to regional or national congresses. Another form of socialism is anarcho-socialism, in which employee-owned firms would compete or cooperate on the free market, absent any centralized government at all. As you can see, a central planning committee is not a necessary feature of socialism; only worker ownership of production is. Dictatorships can never be socialist, because workers do not own or control anything when a ruling elite is telling them what to do. For this reason, socialists reject the claim (made by the Soviet Union itself) that the Soviet Union was a socialist country. It was instead a brutal dictatorship over workers.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:57pm@ KURWA…………you are a socialistic liberal through and through that wants government to be a nanny from cradle to grave and be the mediator of some fantastical social equality and that ignores the corrupt nature of all governments when given too much power. Nice try !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Beckster2
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 1:43pmThat’s not at all what Glenn Beck said, it‘s what you’re intentionally twisting in order to ridicule him….Nice try KURWA but we‘ve also read Saul Alinsky and those tactics don’t work on us. Have a nice day. Bye :)
Report Post »ThatsRight
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:18pmSEIU will do anything they are instructed to. Unfortunately, they have selected a method which may sound good to many. Left, right, and in between. People will walk from their homes as they allready have been for some time. What they dont understand is in most states the banks can and will come after you, if you have any assets at all. This is not going to hurt wall street. The fed will just give them more zero’s. We will be paying for the next 20 years for what we have enjoyed and took for granted the past 20 years.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:25pmKurwa,
It’s a futile effort. The Blaze takes down posts that present facts and logic, which together reveal Beck and his website to be rife with errors and misstatements. On a legitimate site interested in the truth, the moderator doesn’t censor views that he or she disagrees with. He responds to them with a post of his or her own in response. The Blaze is different. They are not about truth, but about creating a bias-confirming echo chamber. So they must take down cogent alternative explanations since those cause the echo to dissipate. The Blaze wants to traffic in lies and its fans need to hear those lies to feel safe and secure in their opinions. So sad that such a strategy can still attract one or two million people, and that is enough for Beck to make a comfortable living. To hell with educating people in a democracy. An eight figure income is much more fun…
Fight the good fight, but understand what you are up against.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:02pmWow, there are a lot of TROLLS in here today. Seems they got some sort of memo that we’re on to them and now they have to demean and belittle us. The very fact that they‘re on here today tells me we’re on to something big and they‘re afraid we’ll ruin their plans.
My grandfather always said, “Don’t argue with an idiot, people watching may not be able to tell the difference.”
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:20pmHome of the Brave,
Neither Kurwa nor I is a troll. We are intelligent people with different views. That you assume that we are trolls or fools makes you look like, well, you know what you look like when you assume too much…
The Blaze regularly takes down my posts, since they reveal with facts, sources and sound logic that:
1. Beck doesn’t know what he is talking about most of the time
2. Beck ignores many facts to make his over-the-top arguments and claims
3. Beck makes up a great many facts to do the same
4. Beck’s fans are apparently fools since they over look #1-3
5. Beck wants his staff to censor postings that make clear to even fools #1-3
Given this history of deceit and censorship, your comment about not arguing with fools is not really appropriate here.
Petunia
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:24pmIt is not janitors on this tape, it is people exploiting the janitors. Because they have so little respect for janitors they believe they can manipulate them to bring down the stock market.
This is not our doing. Listen for yourself. This isn’t made up. Open your ears. Use your brain.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:52pmNice try ABC……..and Kurwa……….
We don’t buy your alinskisms……..
Beck doesn’t tell his listeners to blindly follow him……….find it out for themselves. Unless he was telling the truth……..why would he say that ALL OF THE TIME??
And, of course, none of real listeners will check out the huffpo, med matts, etc. that is an arm of Soros for we KNOW what his agenda is. We’ve seen it from his mouth numerous times!
No more time wasted on Kurwa, ABC and the like…….
Report Post »Skylight
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:41pmKurwa, thy name is fool.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:10pm@ KURWA………..so are you really going to tell me that your countries health care is better than ours here in the US? That is rich really rich. Oh give me a minute while I gather myself. Oh and more homeless, oh that is good really good. Would you like to look at some homeless rates, poverty rates, addiction rates, abuse rates in some socialist countries compared to here in the US? Oh that is good, very funny. And you must think neighborhoods here are terrorist zones or something. For someone who told me to comment after I traveled some more you seem pretty oblivious to the safety that exists in the US. Could it be that this country is so attractive to people (including foreign criminals) that they see a gold mine? Take a look at how many illegal aliens are in our jails and commit crimes my little Aussie liberal friend. Our system you espouse as crime ridden and indifferent or cruel to the down trodden is the world leader for a reason. We have done more to free people and enrich the standard of living around the world than any other country in human history. Have there been corrupt leaders that have done wrong things absolutely. But that does not nullify the success of our system and form of government that has proven itself by the success we enjoy as a people and country !!!! The fruits of our way of life and government speak for themselves. Unfortunately, evil men and subversive groups have molested and raped our way of life and have distorted and tried to change and manipulate what we were intended to be and America is now declining not because our system has failed but because our system as it was originally designed has been forever altered and in many ways abandoned altogether.
Report Post »triquad
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:53pmKurwa,you are one dumb ass.It would be somewhat beneficial if you would pull your head out far enough to hear let alone pay attention to what Glenn is saying here.Stay in your blissfull ignorance while the rest of us try to keep our Country from being destroyed by subversive scum like this.MORON
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:56pmABC-
Do you have facts, sources and sound logic to prove that your posts are removed for the reasons you emphatically state that they are? Intelligent people insist on facts.
Like the fact that the US is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy (as you stated above)
And if you’re going to claim that Beck actually “brings home”/pockets an 8 digit income every year, I’d like to see you back that up with facts too. NOT quotes from magazines or websites-actual PROFIT he nets every year after paying expenses and taxes. (And intelligent people like you would never take the easy way out and just parrot stuff someone else has claimed would they?)
Report Post »Oh, and we’re a Republic….not a democracy.
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:35pmMurders (per capita) according to nationmaster
# 24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people (Above all countries in western europe )
# 43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people (that is 30% of the USA)
Rapes (per capita)
# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
@CCR
“Unless he was telling the truth……..why would he say that ALL OF THE TIME??”"
Because Fox makes him say that, and he says do your own homework as iin do your onw work to agree with the presupositions the teacher has told you.
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:42pm@ABC
Report Post »Yeah i know its nuts. Confirmation bias in action, They just want to be told what they already have think they know. Alex Jones is pretty out there too but he’s not a shameless huckster like Beck and at least his supporters make sense. I mean these guys think that a nut who was fired from his union and has no power whatsowever is the new antichrist just cause glenn told them so.
Lucy Larue
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 8:36pmKURWA
Big Business?!
Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear?! WAKE UP for God’s sake! UGH!
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 8:38pm“I am a physician !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Great so let me tell you about the health system in australia and why it’s better than both the united states and britain. Low income earners get free health care through goverment hospitals and others pay a nominal fee.. However if you want to go private and pay you can for a better level of quality. There is a dual system that provides balance that is needed to society. The people benefit and the insurance companies still make a profit. We don’t have 60 percent of hospital staff chasing down insurance claim like you do. We don’t have insurance companies running roughshod over patients. You can choose your own doctor , There are no death panels , People have a choice. As a physician I cannot fathom how you think this is socialistic or harmfull to society. Well actually I can because you have closed your mind to alternatives in an ideological fervour.
338lapua
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:13pmA fresh troll to devour!
Report Post »This will be fun.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23pm@ KURWA…………..So you pay in taxes to subsidize others health care and if you want quality care you pay again? Yep that sounds like socialism to me. Government dictates allocation of resources using your taxes and if you want something different or better you pay for it again? That is quite an argument you made there. Boy where do we sign up? I can’t wait to pay higher taxes and then pay more for private quality care according to your own words.
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:56pmFunny you only mention ER, What if someones kid is sick? What if you have an infection, What if you have cancer or need non elective surgery? If you don’t have health insurance in america then you have to beg. You know how bad the situation is and ER waiting rooms are in america so don’t play dumb with me.
Re your statement about paying twice yes its like public transport you pay taxes to subsidize yourself and other people on public transport and if you want a better service you pay for a private car.
Report Post »But i bet you think trains and busses are evil socialism too and how dare you have to pay for other people. Oh cry me a river you selfish right wing ideolouge.
kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:07pmsome facts for you mr right wing doctor
In Australia, the total health expenditures as a percentage of GDP are about 9 percent.
In United States, the total health expenditures as a percentage of GDP are about 15 percent
In Australia, the annual cost of health care per capita is $2,886.
In United States, the annual cost of health care per capita is $5,711.
from visualeconomics.com
So you are paying more than our so called goverment wastefull socialist system.
The Australian health system is widely regarded as being world-class, in terms of both its effectiveness and efficiency. The system is a mixture of public and private sector health service providers and a range of funding and regulatory mechanisms:
People make their contribution to the health care system through taxes and the Medicare levy based on their income, and through private financing such as private health insurance.
The aim of the national health care funding system is to give all Australians, regardless of their personal circumstances, access to health care at an affordable cost or at no cost, while allowing choice for individuals through substantial private sector involvement in delivery and financing.
* The Australian government with the primary role of developing broad national policies, regulation and funding.
* State and Territory and Local governments who are primarily responsible for the delivery and management of public health services and for maintaining direct relationships with most health care providers, including regulation of health professionals and private hospitals.
* Private practitioners including general practitioners, specialists and consultant physicians.
* Profit and non-profit organisations and voluntary agencies.
The Australian Government’s funding includes three major national subsidy schemes, Medicare, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and the 30% Private Health Insurance Rebate.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:33pm@ KURWA……do you even read my full posts? cause you make yourself look pretty foolish. Try rereading my last post and see where I listed just a few of the programs here that help those who have no insurance besides the ER. You got in trouble once from not reading my full post. I would have thought you learned your lesson then? I have run one of those special clinics for a while my friend. You really look desperate now. You never did address the fact that you admitted that private health care provides better quality and how your social justice isn’t very just. Why can’t less fortunate people have the same quality of health care as you do? That seems pretty mean of you. I guess it is just to appease your conscience that at least they get something so you don’t feel too guilty for your really good quality health care. It seems given the tone of your last post I would say you are ticked at what you posted and how bad it makes your argument look. You have done a better job than me in exposing the wrong assertions of your position and the main point of mine. Thank you although I am sorry that it has made you upset.
Second you still have not addressed your elitist attitude given the fact you thought you were better than me when you falsely assumed I managed a trailer park, rather than being a physician. I am still waiting for your defense of that one.
Thirdly, kudos for the copy and paste liturgy on the Australian health care industry. Did that come from a pro-government website? Did you ever think about what goes into our cost of health care per capita in the US (in the spirit of compromise I’ll just accept your numbers)? Try billions and billions of dollars going to illegal aliens that do not pay into our system whatsoever that all the rest of us subsidize thus driving those numbers you gave above where they would be if it were not for this problem that has literally bankrupted a number of our bordering states. Last time I checked Australia doesn’t have a very extensive problem with illegal immigration. You are obviously frantically doing internet searches to argue with me over issues you don’t understand. In the process because you are being handled you are becoming increasingly personal in your attacks. This almost always indicates a person who instinctively knows they are in a weaker position and losing a debate. It is OK! You have jumped in over your head and now are trying to save face and climb out gracefully.
Finally, your socialist idea of health care is a horrible idea. Government never never never does anything from a benevolent or efficient position. Their goals and objectives are ALWAYS politici(s)ed and that makes it a bastion of corruption and special interests. Your liberal ideologies and emotion driven ideas have removed your ability to think clearly and critically on this issue.
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:56pmYou are overeaching again in your ideological fury and puting words into my mouth. I never talked about equality but a base line so all people can access a competent level of health care and not be ripped off by insurance companies or have to beg for charity to get medical care as you proudly describe your system. As for my elitism I have no problems that you are running a backyard abortion clinic out of your trailer or ‘special clinic’ as you call it.
You sound like an anarcho-capitalist who thinks goverment run police, libraries public transport , health services and taxation should be abolished and everything should be private. If people can’t afford these basic services then its their fault and they should beg to go getters like you so you can feel all superiour and tell them to turn to Jesus.
Report Post »trueblueday
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:10amThe real problem is Big Government has taken over Big Business.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:31am@ KURWA……….WOW talk about over reaching !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First of all I do not believe in abortion thank you. It is murder. Second your desperation surfaced again as you jabbed once more at me personally. Next, who said I was against government police or libraries? Fourthly, who is ripped off by insurance companies? There are many cooperative plans here in the states that are not insurance companies at all. Fifth, most who have private insurance have it as a benefit through their work and are quite happy with it and pay very little for it. I’ll let you do a search for the figure of how many are happy with their private insurance coverage since you are relying on the net so heavily. Sixth, who is begging? So your less fortunate get a government handout and ours get individuals who donate their time and money to help people and become involved in their life in many instances as well as provide free health education and sometimes help them get training and jobs. Also, many of our “less fortunate” get state insurance called Medicaid that provides them access to the same quality care that anyone else has access to unlike Australia according to you. Seventh, you did not address any of the facts I posted last time you simply attacked me, called me names, then disparaged my religion. If that isn‘t arguing from a position of weakness I don’t know what it would be then. Eighth, yes sometimes when people can’t afford certain things it may be their fault not everyone is a victim and some people no matter how much help you give them will not help themselves. Believing that individuals do have a responsibility for themselves doesn’t make you heartless rather quite the opposite because you desire them to become productive to then help others that have suffered in some tragic way. Ninth, it is not I who apparently feels superior. You have made your feelings of superiority apparent whenever you disparaged me for being a trailer park manager even though I was joking. Finally, a baseline huh? “Great so let me tell you about the health system in australia and why it’s better than both the united states and britain” Baseline access doesn’t really make the argument then does it? I will await your discussion on the illegal immigrant problem you totally dodged as well !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Below is a reminder of just who in this debate thinks they are superior.
KURWA posted………………….
“I manage a trailer park !!!!!!!”
hhaahaha I rest my case . Look i have nothiing against trailer park folk who get their news from glenn beck and think europe and aus are socialist countries, I’m just saying they need to travel the world first and check out the variety of opinions out there.
Report Post »voted against carter
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:29amHey mental midget.,… GO BACK TO HUF PO
TROLL ALERT – do not waste your time responding
NOTE: above poster IS a leftwing-NUT, libratard, progressive, Dumb-O-cRAT TROLL.
HUF PO refugee, looking for a home since Arianna Huffington tossed them overboard.
Expand IT’S profile to confirm.
Report Post »I-HATE-THE-WORD-DISENFRANCHISE
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:35amGlenn uses video evidence of these anti-american communist. We all have seen these video’s. So when you come on here bashing Beck and us for discussing what your friends are doing seems kinda like something a stupid jacka$$ would do. Are we going to wait until they”ve destroyed our country before we speakout to prove our point. So why don’t you go visit north korea, china, russia and everyother crappy country before you support the destruction of this one.
Report Post »voted against carter
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:39amhere is the main meanings for the polish word kurwa:
1. literally a whore, prostitute
And on that note,…
Hey mental midget.,… GO BACK TO HUF PO
TROLL ALERT – do not waste your time responding
NOTE: above poster IS a leftwing-NUT, libratard, progressive, Dumb-O-cRAT TROLL.
HUF PO refugee, looking for a home since Arianna Huffington tossed them overboard.
Expand IT’S profile to confirm.
Kust say’n
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:47am@ VOTED AGAINST CARTER…….for someone with so much supposed posting experience KURWA sure isn’t very good arguing their point. KURWA couldn‘t even duke it out with poor little ole hometown me without gettin’ handled pretty easily. Why I am just a dumb small town conservative that fed that poster a biscuit force fed style. Pretty sad really that with all their background that is the best they could muster. I could care less if they are trolls or true believers I love to expose their false arguments and agendas every chance I get. It also sharpens me and keeps me on guard. Hopefully it may help arm other conservatives in arguing our points in the public arena as well ( I know others have benefited me in that way).
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:10amProve to me you don‘t run an backyard abortion clinic out of your trailer as has been reported and give me some details about your ’special clinic’
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:08amkurwa, da moose an da squirral finds out about da master plan to destroy frost-bite falls! we must make newd plans to rules da world! come natasha! we go now.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:30am@ KURWA……………..better to be thought a fool than open one’s mouth (type one’s thoughts) and remove all doubt
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 5:35pmJanitors of the World Unite!!! And, ask yourselves whether: (1) your stingy employer, (2) your greedy colleagues, (3) your benevolent government, (5) your union or (5) some other factor sets the wage, the price, the value of YOUR job! If you thought about it for more than a minute, you‘d recognize that what sets the price is someone’s willingness to do the same work for less than you would; unless, your benevolent government decides that it isn‘t ’fair’ to pay less than whatever gets your representatives reelected; unless, a union comes in and puts up a wall so that no one would dare come in and do your job for less that you would! So, from THAT standpoint, union wages will be HIGHER than they would otherwise, and THAT WAGE will be more than the market would set if left alone! But the union sword cuts both ways–EVERYONE will make the same wage; that is, better peformance will NOT be recognized, AND there will be no ‘starter’ or ‘part-time’ jobs–otherwise it would be taking jobs from union members! Oh, and, if a manager misses and pees on the rim of the bowl, he CANNOT use a tissue in an attempt to clean up HIS mess! It will be left for YOU, after festering for a few hours, until it is on your scheduled rounds! Gee, that’s efficient! Does the untion really do you a favor, or does it insert artificial walls, based upon historical performance, to make sure that things cannot change! Sounds like a dinosaur-maker to me!
Report Post »Nona
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:53pmGov’t is a distraction. It is but the song and dance keeping the people entertained. It‘s what’s going on backstage that’s the problem. But they’re all part of the show~ Sickening.
Report Post »I’ve read the Good Book, God wins! yay~
Paulhgreenbay
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:18amHow will these types survive in the aftermath?
Report Post »facts
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:24amIn the aftermath of what Paulh?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:36amIt‘s like the original foreward in Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”
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“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history… the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”
Thay plan on ruling in hell (on earth).
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:49amTheir mindset is better a Prince of Hell than a Servant of Heaven. Sure is quite telling about who they hold in high regard does it not. Also, I would say that even though he was an atheist that he (and many of those that follow his ideals) are more a servant of the Evil One then they even know. He is the god of this world and they are absolutely blind to it. Thinking themselves the master of their own actions and destiny. Very sad. The greatest tactic of Satan is not necessarily convincing the world that God doesn’t exist in one form or another, but rather that he doesn’t exist.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:20amWatchtheotherhand
Report Post »An interesting thing to me is that Alinsky thought Lucifer would rule in hell. He will be a captive in hell, just like all the other lost souls. God rules all.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:35am@ GONZO……Amen !! There is no such thing as a “free” person in all creation. You are either the slave of Satan or the bondservant of Christ (which is really the only way one becomes free !!!) I love the ironies of the word. Die to live, become a bondservant to become free indeed, be last to be first, be humble and God will exalt. God is awesome. I do have compassion for those under Satan’s control and are not aware of it though because that used to be me. Life is bitter under his rule.
Typology of Satan……………………………….
10 Then the slave drivers and the overseers went out and said to the people, “This is what Pharaoh says: ‘I will not give you any more straw. 11 Go and get your own straw wherever you can find it, but your work will not be reduced at all.’” 12 So the people scattered all over Egypt to gather stubble to use for straw. 13 The slave drivers kept pressing them, saying, “Complete the work required of you for each day, just as when you had straw.” 14 And Pharaoh’s slave drivers beat the Israelite overseers they had appointed, demanding, “Why haven’t you met your quota of bricks yesterday or today, as before?”
Report Post »Ruark
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:10pmWhat makes you think their purpose is survival?
Report Post »YouGottaProblemWithThat
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:48pmPaul you are so right. They will be the first to feel the sting of a country where the money is redistributed but you have to pay 50,000 us dollars for a loaf of bread.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:23pmThe truth is they will not survive the aftermath. They never think that far ahead and end up getting eaten alive by the monster they’ve unleash. Robespierre, Caligula, and all the others eventually become victims of the chaos. It must always be remembered that we are not dealing with rational people, we’re up against an army of “Looters” as Ayn Rand would say.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:25pmDon’t you know, the revolution always eats the looters second.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 5:23pmThey can’t think that far ahead!
Report Post »Slayer
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:18amWe took the Congress and the majority of State governorships in November.
Report Post »Since then, nothing.
We should be moving forward full speed.
When the Liberals win seats, they waste no time getting things done.
Where are the Republicans and Conservatives?
mrclean
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:20amOut of town now; out to lunch when they are in town!
Report Post »Kitsune
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:23amThinking that we want them to play the nice guy to prove they’re “different than those corrupt democrats”.
Also, scared to death that they’ll never get CNN and MSNBC to like them.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:32amHave you not been watching Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana?
Report Post »a true texan
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:52amThey will pay the unemployed daily to show up and protest they will be bused in as usual carrying there poster with a fist on it.
Report Post »TREASON no other word for it.
IMPEACHMENT MUST be done because these organizers are connected directly to the Organizer in Chief.
CatB
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 12:08pmWrite call …demand action! Tell them they will be gone next .. and we will find REAL Conservaitves!
Report Post »taebaggranny
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:26pm@ SLAYER E-mail your senators and Representatives…Let them know that the “MR/MS NICE GUYS are not what they were sent up there to be..They were sent there to get this mess under control and clean up the house and senate.. If Boehner compromises with the Dems on raising the debt limit and the CUTS to the spending then the purpose of changing the faces in the Congress and the Senate were a waste of time and energy…
Report Post »Richard M
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:42pmThere’s a perception that America has a two-party system of government. In actuality, they are one and the same. George W. Bush was elected to govern from the right, whilst Obama was elected to govern from the left. You end up with the same BS. The people are waking up thanks to people like Glenn Beck, Palin, Bachmann, and others, telling the truth about these commies that want to ruin our country and turn it into their idea of what it should be. We need to re-instate the “House Committee on Un-American Activities”. Joe McCarthy was right after all wasn’t he? I think there‘s enough Americans out there that know what’s going on, and we really need to clean house and SOON!!!!!
Report Post »Igno Ramus
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:26pmWe sent people to congress with the express purpose of cutting the budget and stopping the abusive spending. I’ve e-mailed Boehner several times about this and all I get in response is some lame CRAP about 6 or 7 million dollars that they have cut from the emergency budget. I tell them CUT THE DAMN BUDGET and they are deaf. I tell them STOP THE SPENDING and they are deaf. I think these clowns have ALREADY been compromised and are currently in cahoots with the scum that was already there. I hope that I am wrong, but there is little indication that our freshmen understand plain American-English. Now this bunch of idiots wants to bring down our financial institutions such as our banks and Wall Street. As far as I am concerned, the steps they have already taken justify them being arrested and charged with sedition. ANY further action on their part should be seen as an act of war against the US, and they should be charged with treason. If they resist, they should be seen as enemy combatants and treated as such until they cease their resistance. If they are convicted, they should be EXILED rather than executed. A bounty of $1,000,000 should be placed on their heads, payable to ANYONE who finds them inside the borders of the US and/or her territories. I don’t care HOW they came to be within the borders of the US either. SCUMBAGS ONE AND ALL
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:11pmSlayer,
Report Post »The problem is that they only control one house in the Federal Government, and it is the weakest of the houses. The Senate can block anything they wish. As for the states, I live in VA and it is the same issue here. Conservatives control the house and governorship, but the Senate is owned by the liberals, so nothing substantive can get through. We have to have a 60% unblockable majority in everything to overthrow this crap. The best we can hope for is defunding stuff, maybe.
Laus Deo
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:17amBring an investigation on these scum bags and don’t stop digging there.
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:26amThis investigation should be done by the FBI–it won’t happen with Holder in charge of the DOJ. Thats why these commie traitors are coming out of the woodwork–they’ve got top cover and I mean TOP COVER. If they begin an investigation and keep digging, we know where it will end up. Bottom-up, TOP DOWN ….
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:38amIroneagle:
Understood, with the DOJ and others, there is no hope at this time of these conspirators and the administration ever being brought to justice in any shape or form. The enemy within has control of all the major levers of power, and now are poised to finish off the nation and remake it into their own nightmare image made reality.
VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:02amEveryone needs to contact the Governor’s office of the states around NY… NJ, Penn, Ver, NH, Conn, RI…contact the Governor’s office and the AG of these states… demand action against this group and man even if the Federal Government does nothing….force their hand…make them publically come out and defend their position to do nothing against “economic terrorism.”
great-grandma
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:21amand we need to start with this Administration and all its Tsars…
IM_UR_HUCKLEBERRY
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:23amInvestigations these days, (by the leftist administration- if they are conducted at all), are nothing more than “Public Cover” to make the Lemmings think they are doing something.
I think the Administration is at least a part this mess, perhaps even the leadership behind the curtain.
Of course, this is just my opinion… and like faces, most people have at least one.
Report Post »Dont.Tread.On.Me
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:45amI firmly agree! Furthermore, the redistribution of wealth is a direct contradiction to, and assault upon Liberty itself. Why? The Founders NEVER intended that we have a tax on personal income.
The American Dream is: Life, Liberty, and Property. That means you, and the government, do not have a right to mine or anyone else’s! Please pass this on to everyone you know.
Thank you Glenn Beck. May the Creator save the Republic!
ChristineEd
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:14amCan’t Darrell Issa start a congressional investigation? I seem to remember Congress investigating steroids in baseball- I think this may more important. I also love that some people are saying this country isn’t broke which may be true as long as the printing presses keep printing money. Our money has very little value so let’s give everyone a huge box of it. If we were to redistribute the wealth- then what?
alleyeseeing
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:29pmHell why don’t we bring a investigation on this whole corrupt government and the corporations and agencies that are linked to it as well. Don’t be such hypocrites. You know its the american way.
98ZJUSMC
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:41pmA State needs to investigate this. Holder will not. Collect the information and initiate criminal prosecution. That will get more press attention and then force this, very visibly, on the Feds. If they do nothing, you start Congressionals on the matter concurrent with prosecution and you press forward with the RICO suit.
stormcrow53
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:45pmSad to say we have been checkmated. If we remain supine we lose the country and our children and grandchildren. If we fight back, a cultural and ideological war the likes of which mankind has never faced before ensues and we lose the country and our children and grandchildren. We may win the struggle but it will never again be the world we grew up in and the goodness or badness in that result is debatable. Beck is right in many things. He is wrong on his Gandhi/King Doctrine. But the enemy have been laying these traps for many decades and our time to prepare is short. The reality is you are hated not because of what you did but who you are. Content of character? The enemy cannot recognize what they do not possess. The pillaging has commenced, the walls have been breached, the enemy is within. Broken Arrow. The truth has no agenda.
SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 2:57pmBut Laus who will do the investigating? There is no one “we” can go to!! Who can you send this to when so many you rely on and would normally send it to are corrupt and “with them”? Sad day in America when you are sitting on something hot like this and have nowhere reliable to leave it with.
This is a pure example of how much damage the radical left and their zombie army have done to this nation. As I have said at the end of my youtube vid, Liberties Lost, Death of the Republic? America, we are in a lot of trouble. You can’t sit around “waiting for someone else to do something”! That “someone else” you’re waiting for is… YOU!! If not for yourself, do it for them… (children)
56 men, our Founding Fathers, had the courage to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor for freedom, prosperity and the pursuit of happiness. What are you prepared to do?
grandma7
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:02pmChase is one of the only, if not the only, bank not controlled by Sharia Compliant Groups. No wonder they have to bring it down. This is telling regarding who’s behind it.
GONESURFING
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:17pmThe enemy within, and Obama is one of them.
Kasman
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:29pmPlease correct me if I’m wrong :
Sedition/Treason is a crime to which the punishment is death ? Yes or No
The DOJ is required by the Constitution to enforce the laws regarding these acts ? Yes or No
Has the DOJ in fact committed Treason for NOT enforcing the laws in this matter ? Yes or No
Since the DOJ refuses to fallow the laws or enforce them, does that not place the duty, right, and responsibility upon the citizens to in fact act upon these acts of Sedition/Treason ? Yes or No
There are irrefutable cases of Sedition/Treason being committed across America. It is our Right and Duty to act as citizens of America. It is time to ACT, defend your country, defend your rights, defend your freedom, and above all defend your lives and your way of life !!!!
Thanx, and have a nice day.
youmeanwags
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 3:32pmLerner’s SEIU partner, Andrew Stern, visited the White House more than any non-governmental official in Obama’s tenure. Obama once said, “You will know be by the people I surround myself with.” I’m terrified to come to know him this way. This story is bigger than Watergate, given the implications for someone trying to force us into a second financial crisis. It makes you wonder about the timing of the first crisis. I know that the national news won’t likely even mention this, but I think it may be one of the biggest news stories of our time. We’re lucky that there is at least one newsperson left in America in the form of Beck. Please e-mail the link to all of your friends. They have to hear this.
YouGottaProblemWithThat
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:28pmI have an idea. How about 10,000 tea partiers show up where Stephen Lerner lives and do a little protesting. Disrupt his life a bit. Walk his kids to school. Make him feel his own words coming back to haunt him. Francis Piven learned a lesson and whined about being targeted and since has scurried away when the light was shown on her. These little cockroaches have no idea what they are messing with here. The wave is growing and there is no moral high ground for these amoral people. True Americans have had enough. Let it begin with me.
cromag11b
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:34pmKasman
Report Post »Watch that talk of sedition since most of it comes from places like this. Or is all the ‘we must do something’ and other more open revolt style talk just typos?
Wilberforce
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:50pmEverything he says is defensible, I say as a conservative. The key is how you interpret his words “the system.” If you think the worst and assume it is the whole economy, it sounds like treason. But he describes the “system” of the heads of banks and big corporations profiting from a crisis they caused, so we should disrupt that system. He says banks are getting free profits from 0 rate fed money. Don’t we all agree? We just never made the national political decision of who takes the losses: only mortgage holders, or 50-50 banks and borrowers. I hope this guy goes on Glenn’s show and calmly talks through it all to see where we agree.
Kasman
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:03pmcromag11b
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 4:34pm
Kasman
“Watch that talk of sedition since most of it comes from places like this. Or is all the ‘we must do something’ and other more open revolt style talk just typos?”
So you don’t consider direct actions against the very word (let alone the spirit) of the Constitution Sedition or Treason ?? And wouldn’t such actions warrant the response of the citizens to necessarily act upon such actions ?
Thanx and have a nice day.
Report Post »Uriel
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:08pmThe ultimate goal may be communism; but the immediate strategy is to create anarchy.
Watch “Fight Club”.
And Yes, Cromag11B, they were all typos. Hope to see you soon!
Report Post »Jim S
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 5:27pmPardon me but aren’t ALL retirement plans, except SS, heavily invested in the Stock market? Not a specific company, God I hope not, but S&P 100.200.500 or the Wilshire etc. These union officials, now or ex, will destroy their members retirement ! Is putting your members into poverty the charter of unions?
Report Post »I don’t this has a chance as people understand what is being proposed. IF THEY UNDERSTAND !
TheLascone
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:04pmHey Laus Deo … As Glenn said today ….
Report Post »http://www.flickr.com/photos/23630227@N06/5551453888/
Justus39
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:07pmYou are waisting your time calling for an investigation. The U.S. Justice Department under Holder and Obama are as corrupt as the Mafia ever was. God fearing,hard working Americans,especially whites had better arm themselves and be prepared to defend you family with your life. America is so close to KAOS it is almost unbelievable.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:14pmJP better come out with a statement, because I have all my accounts and mortgage with them. . They had better get the DOJ on this, or I will view them in collusion with this.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:22pm@grandma7:
“Chase is one of the only, if not the only, bank not controlled by Sharia Compliant Groups. No wonder they have to bring it down. This is telling regarding who’s behind it…”
_________________
Well,isn’t that interesting? I’ll have to check this out…any chance you have a link to something to support this? Thanks!
normageane
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:25pmPut Donnald Trump, Sara Palin, Glenn Beck, Sawn Hanity and other great diggers to get to the bottom of this. They know how to set dead lines so it would take years to get it done.
Report Post »uncleherbert
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 6:36pm@RQUAID, SPOCK, Your president is in on this from the beginning. Your statements are false we see who you really are, socialist/communist. Frances Fox Piven needs to be put in prison!
Report Post »natstew
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 7:47pmIt won’t happen under the Obama Regime.
Report Post »ADJ
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 8:09pmI am certain that we are making headway in showing the madness of the activist Totalitarian Liberal. Pole Pot, Stalin, Lenin, the Comair Rouge & Hitler all had one thing in common: they thought that if they could centralize the power in the hands of the enlightened; i.e. Liberal government, & redistribute the means of economic control society would be a better place. The facts are that they did take the first steps then never followed through with the redistribution part! This is not a leap in logic that these quacks are of the same mold as all other dictators in the past. It is flat out scary that they are not confronted & outcast; rather that given several visitors passes to the White House. AMAZING!!!
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 8:21pmGetting Holder and the Dept of Injustice to investigate this is not going to happen. They agree with these guys! And the mainstream media are going to ignore the subject because it can lead back to their idol Obama. It is up to ordinary, patriotic Americans to do what the Tea Parties have been doing for almost 2 years……gather together and bring attention to what they are trying to do to harm our country. Keep the spotlight on the bad guys and keep the pressure going to get an investigation underway. Holder would want us to just shut up and forget about it. We should do the opposite.
338lapua
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:08pmI am thrilled this has come into the light of day, BUT I have no expectation of this going anywhere. This is the most corrupt administration/regime in U.S. history. Eric,My People, Holder is the poster child for everything wrong with it. Impeach, impeach now. Lets grant Barry much more time to pursue his golf game. Lets give Barry more time to follow basketball. Lets give Barry more time with his lovely children. More time with Michelle Barry’s memoirs remain unwritten. Lets give Barry more time to ORGANIZE. Please Barry, resign. Spare us any more expense on your behalf. JUST GO AWAY!
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:11pmUnfortunately, because of the regime we now have in power, these useful idiots will go unpunished for their actions. But, when their time comes and they are no longer useful to those that control the country, they can kiss their little gestapo goodbye.
Report Post »roast
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:14pmObama is the leader of the seiu.Also there lawer. The US crashed because of his RUNNING for POTUS.Then winning.The real problem is to many people will be implicated for them to act.They better pass new laws before the next election to open all canidates backgrounds up to the public.We sould be entitledHe is responsable for our safty.Makes me sick we are not allowed to see all of his background.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 9:20pmThe problem these morons have is that if they actually succeeded, what they don’t understand is that they destroyed the wealth creators in the process (and removed all incentive for creating said wealth) They will be much worse off after they “redistribute” and then consume all the wealth… that will probably take a weekend, and a few weeks later they will all starve to death. How does that French saying go… Que cera cera… what will be will be… BE PREPARED.
Report Post »tesla V
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:23pmWe know Obama won’t do anything about it.I just hope a patriotic F.B.I. agent does something to shine even more light on this.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 10:44pmI HAVE pledged my Life, my Liberty, My Sacred Honor.
I have pledged my body and my guns, and my fortitude, but against a campaign such as been suggested here, i do not know what I, one man can do.
I could assemble a team of mercenaries to defend JP Morgan, but their downfall is financially, not physically.
i could infiltrate and give audio/video evedence as what we see here,
I can do so many things, but nothing to ursurp the strategy given here. Not legally, not Constitutionally.
I can call my hamstrung Congressman, who is one of the most powerful, Mike Pence, and leave a message…
I can call my Senators, who are both bought and paid for already and could give a rat’s arse less…
For the first time in my life, i see a video that disheartens me to give me one option.
My back is pinned against the wall, I feel like Casey.
And i am a strong man. NOT a bullied man.
I’ll pray to God for my answer.
Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:45pmTime to re-activate the HCUA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee
NOW!
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:42am@Thatsitivehadenough:
Report Post »“Time to re-activate the HCUA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee
NOW!”
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You know, I suggested this to a group about 18 months ago…got no takers…then I began to think about it and realized that GLENN IS actually conducting his own Committee on Un-American Activities…he’s doing it in the public forum…I‘m afraid that’s about as far as we are going to get with this…look at what they just did to Senator King for calling the hearings on the Radicalization of Muslims in America…that poor man was all but skinned a live…and…we have heard nothing from him in over a week or so…where is that going? I’m beginning to become very frightened…Are there absolutely NO PATRIOTS left in our government? Is it really going to come down to pockets of patriots all across this nation standing up locally to fend off the destruction that is coming? I’m beginning to think so and that is why Glenn is chalk boarding about preparations, trustworthiness, etc…God please help us save America!
thepatriotdave
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:20amAt least we all agree on one thing, as long as Eric Holder is head of the DOJ this goes nowhere. Now we must take it to the people. Yeah I know, taking it to the people may be useless. Every person at this meeting needs to be followed 24/7 for the next 40 years!
New subject…
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colonial10
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:00amI think we need to be the investigators because our DOJ is corrupt. We need to vote them out and keep them out for good. Keep a tab on them. Like Mr. Gore and the union thugs.
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Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:17amHow ya gonna call … for traitors / treason / insurrectionists? … Hello, FBI? Do your duty!
Hello? Hello?
“These things are defective! Why do I always get a defective one?!” -Gov. Le Petomane, Blazing Saddles
Report Post »lisalake
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:36amCall your congressman, and then call the DOJ and the FBI– and demand stephen lerner and seiu be investigated! And then keep calling daily–and spread the word to all your friends and family to do the same. Flood their lines—seems this is all we can do— no one seems to care about this—can’t find the story anywhere else–Rush–Drudge–Levin–and most of all—FOX have all ignored the story…we are doomed…. TREASON all around, and no one speaks….
OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL Attorney General, Eric H. Holder, Jr., 202-514-2001
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veruca salt
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:00amGlenn, please just tell me when it’s all going to end as the anticipation is just too much. I have the bunker built, the gold you told me to get, the MREs, the food insurance, my Mormon magic undergarments, and I have put myself right with Jesus, so I’m ready Glenn. Which direction is is coming from, Glenn? The Muslim Caliphate, the socialist unions, God deciding through tsumanis to clean house, or the Four Horsemen of the Socialist Apocalypse: Soros, Lerner, Piven, and Obama riding in to destroy my way of life? I have to know, Glenn, I have to know!
Ruler4You
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:56amThe DOJ believes you are only a threat if you are some one they can defeat in court. If a REAL battle could potentially be fought, the U.S. DOJ knows it will loose.
Our DOJ hasn’t won a major court battle in years. There just isn’t the intellect in government law to prosecute such a conspiracy these days. Only the stupid and the agenda driven seek government jobs at those levels. No person with a real intellectual capacity for such law works for the government.
Report Post »Woody WoodBecker
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 7:46amWe know they want to collapse our system into the structure they already have in place. Glenn talks about shoring up your finances, storing food, etc to protect yourself and neighbors from the chaos such a collapse creates.
I suggest we build a counter structure, not in the cover of darkness, like the socialized are doing. The republic stands on law and order. We need to stand on our Constitution, know it and love it. We need to learn how to govern ourselves and our local communities. We need to stop depending on the Feds to tell us what to do or to give us our daily bread. Glenn keeps giving us examples of those doing this but it’s time for more of us to live it.
I have a proposal
Report Post »– Get off of all govt handouts and welfare including unemployment.
– Lawfully purchase small arms and know the proper usage and handling of them.
– Show support for law enforcement officers
– Handle disputes at the lowest level possible – resolve them one on one peacefully, in your local church, in your local community. Stay out of the court system as much as possible.
– Encourage your Church to prepare with food storage, etc.
– Start voicing your opposition to collectivist ideologies. Start providing solutions to our problems.
– Run for school board, city council, mayor, etc. Freedom lovers can stop socialism at the local level by getting your local communities off the state and federal dole.
Counter-Culture Revolutionist
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:08amTHESE ARE TRAITORS!!
Because President Obama works very closely with communist union leaders and community organizers, it is not expected that his Department of Justice will take action against these traitors. They have failed to prosecute similar cases involving espionage, voter fraud and intimidation, unlawful disruption of business and violence towards private citizens, known embezzlement of public and union funds, etc.
We are being enslaved by a tyrant and his minions. And just as it was with the rise of Hitler to power, very few spoke out against him. Are we, too, going to let this happen? Are we going to assist Obama in his quest to become America’s first dictator, because as surely as I live, that is his plan. That may be why he visited the communist dictator of Brazil this week.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:10amDoes it make me naive that I thought there are/were laws against Treason?
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:25amLike a malign tumor they need to be extirpate from our beautiful republic. We the people are going to put lights on investigate and cut it out.
Report Post »_waTson_
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:50pmI saw the show last night and just now listened to the entire speech at ‘The Blaze’.
While listening, I kept thinking, hmm, maybe a Class Action lawsuit against the SEIU. Then at the end of the uncut stream he exposes that this is his fear too. Labor Unions becoming involved, he says, should not be where this ‘destruction of the system” plan should stem from. And he’s so right about that since 1) there could be legal consequences and 2) grave financial consequences (their pensions are tied up in the same stock market he wants to destroy). This is why he emphasizes over and over that this movement, this plan, must come from other places; community groups and activists. Too bad it’s now out in the open; this man “THIS SORRY PERSON” wants to enrage others to destroy Union pensions, the financial market, Republicans, “these folks” oh, and JP Morgan Chase. (JP Morgan Chase being singled out by ‘he and a bunch of us around the country’. Sigh and sheesh.
Just a thought.
*~* waTson ~*~
Report Post »BJC49
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:54pmEveryone please go to http://www.gradegov.com and they will send a fax free (1 daily) to any Rep you choose. I have chosen Daryl Issa to send the following message. We must do ALL we can to let them know we demand an investigation. The fax is sent straight to the Capital Representative. Please take time to stop these thugs. Here is what I sent today and yesterday. Tomorrow I will be sending one to Rep Jason Chaffetz thanking him for his letter he sent to Holder.
Mr. Issa I hope you are planning on following up on the Terrorist threat against our banks and financial system planned by the Unions.
I see where Jason Chaffetz has sent a letter to Holder and yourself. We expect you to follow up and make sure this internal terrorism is not allowed.
Here is the video of the Terrorists in their own words. We will be watching. Thank you for all your good work.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-the-lefts-economic-terrorism-playbook-the-chase-campaign-for-a-coalition-of-unions-community-groups-lawmakers-and-students-to-take-down-us-capitalism-and-redistribute-wealth-power/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blaze-exclusive-congressman-presses-holder-to-investigate-terrorist-plans-in-bank-plot/
Report Post »Benbit
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:16pmNot going to happen till after 2012′. I just visited media matters,they have 262 we’d pages bashing Glen.
Report Post »John_Free
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:36pmIts amazing the number of so called “aware” people that refuse to acknowledge the reality of the “New World Order”……a huge agenda that is Marxist at it roots and that has infected the media and government at too many levels.
I think that drastic measures are the only solution…..drastic in ways that most don’t have the heart nor the courage to support.
So…the dark side wins this battle.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:40pmAny Congressman that supports them or defends them should be charged with treason, found guilty and shot.
Report Post »d55may
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 7:10pmNo one has suggested the impeachment of this traitor, who took an oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. I don’t understand why everyone is dancing around the FACTS that have been placed in front of our faces. THIS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA IS THE LEADER OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE WORKING TO UNDERMINE THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY. I don‘t think it’s the first time, the plan Lerner laid out for the students WAS EXACTLY what happened in 2008,and that plan was put into action years ago. EVEN REV WRIGHT KNEW IT, when he said at the Press Club, that “change was coming, change is coming.” No one questioned what he meant by that because he was brushed off by the media and Obama as out of line/crazy.
This whole thing is treasonous,yet no one is saying anything about this president, why? I hope this posts because my comments are never posted and I’ve been a Glenn Beck follower since HLN(the only time I watched HLN).
Report Post »Jim AZ
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:06pm@MS-Honor: Peace, dude. Erring thoughts are ok. Subtle trolling for violence isn’t.
@All: Another handful on the pile. Soon it will be obvious to all. Keep peace. Prepare. Watch. Work to expose this crap and take peaceful action. Be strong in principle and behavior. Provide strength for others.
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 9:30pmI can remember an America that considered the kind of activities that the Unions, La Raza, and all the other leftist, progressive organizations are engaging in on a daily basis as fomenting the overthrow of the legitimate government of the USA and would incarcerate or deport those persons participating in such activities! If people do not wake up soon we are going to lose the country and our hopes for a free soceity in which to raise our children. All those blind union members that are involved in these activities should look at how well the union members fared in the former Soviet Union and the countries it ruled! Everyone had a job but nobody earned enough to buy the things they wanted because those things were only available to the elites who ran the government. Everyone was equal! Equally poor, equally repressed and equally jailed for saying anything against those in power. It’s coming to America, folks! Get ready.
Report Post »YankeeBlue
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:10amMy own personal comedic take on the issue…
http://wp.me/p1j9Sl-52
Report Post »FEDupFRANK
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:17amCheck out there partners in Europe.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO9JHgttoUo&feature=player_embedded#at=141
My Sacred Honor
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:20amJim AZ
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:06pm
@MS-Honor: Peace, dude. Erring thoughts are ok. Subtle trolling for violence isn’t.
I’m not stoned. What exactly does that mean? “Dude’?
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:27amJim AZ
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:06pm
@MS-Honor: Peace, dude. Erring thoughts are ok. Subtle trolling for violence isn’t.
@All: Another handful on the pile. Soon it will be obvious to all. Keep peace. Prepare. Watch. Work to expose this crap and take peaceful action. Be strong in principle and behavior. Provide strength for others.
Oh I get it. I read your response to another and gathered enough context.
You want us all to link hands and chant, and the force of our “peace’ will drive away the evil.
Let me tell you something, and i hope you learn this lesson now rather than later. Those whom you wish to “peace’ away will be coming for either your soul or your head, and it will be your choice at that moment. My choice has already been made. i shall keep my soul, as will the entirety of my family. You want to tell me to “chill’ and just let it all go? Maybe you should read the rest of my posts on here since this site started.
I am a Marine, and I SHALL NOT BOW TO ANYONE.
You feel free to bury your head. It makes an easy target for your enemies to swipe their swords.
Me?
I’ll die with my Ka-Bars burried in the chest of the one who takes my head.
Semper Fi. Nuff said.
Report Post »ghostsouls
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 2:00amWhere is John O’Keefe when you ne3d some real hard hitting investigation? He could do more to bring Lerner down and his compatriots, than the FBI, CIA and DOJ combined. I think everyone, including myself should go to the DOJ website and report Lerners terrorism activities. As soon as I post this I am going there, I will be curious as to what kind of response I get from them after reporting criminal activity against our nation.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on March 24, 2011 at 1:02pmHere comes the biggest bottom up move that we have seen, and it will require a top down response. Cloward and Piven would be so proud. Get out of the stock market if it looks like this will actually happen. We should see more activity by mid April. Get into cash or commodities.
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