[Update] Revisionist Recitation: Obama Omits ‘Creator’ While Quoting Declaration
- Posted on September 18, 2010 at 3:51pm by
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In this file photo, President Obama relies on his teleprompter to deliver a speech. (Phote: AP)
Two days before the country was set to celebrate Constitution Day, President Obama decided to invoke the words of another founding document: the Declaration of Independence. Except he changed the words.
Towards the end of a speech on September 15 to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute, Obama began quoting the famous “rights” line from the founding document. But partway through, he omitted where those rights come from: a Creator.
The line is supposed to read: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
But Obama’s recitation left out an important part: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. [Long Pause] Endowed with certain inalienable [sic] rights: life and liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
As the American Thinker points out, it could well be that Obama intentionally ignored his teleprompter:
After President Obama says “created equal..”, there is a long pause during which he scowls and blinks several times. For once, he may actually have opted to not read something that was on the teleprompter. It looks like he is disgusted and decided it would be better not to read what the [Declaration] actually says.
So, did he just forget the words, maybe couldn’t see the lines, or did he leave them out intentionally? You decide:
H/T: Freedom’s Lighthouse and American Thinker
UPDATE:
Over at CBN, David Brody says the Declaration quote was not part of the president’s prepared remarks, and suggests that the omission was the result of an on-the-fly addition:
If you look at President Obama’s prepared remarks before the speech was delivered, the Declaration of Independence line was not in there so clearly President Obama ad-libbed the line…and gets it wrong.
White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest talked to Brody about the incident, and said that “The President is in full agreement with the Declaration of Independence. Any suggestion to the contrary is just silly.”
Below are the prepared remarks obtained by The Blaze (the relevant part is in italics, and paragraph breaks were inserted based on the president’s delivered remarks):
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
EMBARGOED UNTIL DELIVERY
September 15, 2010
Remarks of President Barack Obama – As Prepared for Delivery
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute’s 33rd Annual Award GalaWashington, D.C.
September 15, 2010 As Prepared for Delivery—Thank you to Senator Menendez; and to the Chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Congresswoman Velázquez, for those generous introductions. Thank you to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute for inviting us this evening. Michelle and I are thrilled to be here with so many friends to kick off Hispanic Heritage Month.
I want to acknowledge a few folks. First, our extraordinary Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. Two of our outstanding Cabinet secretaries are here tonight: Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar; and our Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis.
Thank you to our Mistress of Ceremonies, Soledad O’Brien. Congratulations to Eva Longoria Parker, Arturo Sandoval, and Lin-Manuel Miranda on your well-deserved awards this evening.
And thank you to all the Members of Congress, local elected officials, CHCI alumni, and all who work day in and day out to advance the Hispanic community and America as a whole. And I want to acknowledge and thank all the Latino leaders serving across my Administration. I’m proud that the number of Latinos I’ve nominated to Senate-confirmed positions at this point far exceeds that of any administration in history, and I’m just as proud that a large number are Latinas. In fact, as I’ve said before, one of the proudest moments of my presidency was the day Justice Sonia Sotomayor swore an oath, ascended to our nation’s highest court, and sparked new dreams for countless young girls all across America.
I first joined you here two years ago, as a candidate for this office. We spoke then about how after years of failed policies in Washington, after decades of putting off our toughest challenges, we had reached a tipping point – a point where the fundamental promise of America was at risk.
We talked about how these challenges impacted the Latino community, but also about how they’re bigger than any one community. That if a young child is stuck in an overcrowded and underperforming school, it doesn’t matter if she is black or white or Latino, she is our child. That if millions of Latinos end up in the emergency room because they don’t have health care, it’s not just a problem for one community, but for our country. That when millions of immigrants toil in the shadows of our society, that’s not just a Latino problem; it’s an American problem. And we have to solve it.
As Dr. King told Cesar Chavez all those years ago: our separate struggles are really one. That truth became painfully clear when, less than one week after we met, some of the biggest Wall Street firms collapsed and the bottom fell out of our economy. Millions of families across America were plunged into the deepest recession of our lifetimes. And a Latino community that had been hard-hit before the recession was hit even harder.
So when I took office, I insisted that we could only rebuild our economy if we started growing the economy for all our people – if we provided economic security for all our working families. We had to renew the fundamental idea that everybody in America has a chance to make it if they try – no matter who they are, what they look like, where they come from, or where they were born.
That’s the idea that drives us. The chance to make of our lives what we will. And I know that many of you are thinking tonight about a task that is central to that idea – and that’s our fight to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
Now, I know that many of you campaigned hard for me, and you’re disappointed we haven’t been able to move this over the finish line yet. I am too. But let me be clear: I will not walk away from this fight. My commitment to getting this done as soon as we can is real. We cannot keep kicking this challenge down the road.
There’s no doubt the debate over how to fix all this has been a fractured, often painful one. Some seek political upside in distorting the facts and dividing our people. Some take advantage of economic anxiety to stoke fear of those who look, or think, or worship differently – to inflame passions between “us” and “them.”
Well, I have news for them: it won’t work. Because there is no “us” and “them.” In this country, there is only “us.” There is no Latino America or Black America or White America or Asian America. There is only the United States of America.
If we appeal to the American people’s hopes over their fears, we’ll get this done. We already know what this reform looks like. Just a few years ago, when I was a senator, we built a bipartisan coalition around it under the leadership of Senator Kennedy, Senator McCain, and President Bush. We rallied with leaders from the business, labor, and religious communities. Many of you were there. The bill we forged wasn’t perfect, and it wasn’t what any one person wanted, but because folks were willing to compromise, we came up with commonsense, comprehensive reform that was far from the false debates of an unfair mass amnesty or an unworkable mass deportation. And we passed that bill through the Senate.
But since that effort fell apart, we have also seen how broken, bitter and divisive our politics has become. Today, the folks who yell loudest about the federal government’s long failure to fix this problem are some of the same folks standing in the way of good faith efforts to fix it. And under the pressures of partisanship and election year politics, most of the 11 Republican senators who voted for that reform just four years ago have backed far away from that vote today.
That’s why states like Arizona have taken matters into their own hands. And my administration has challenged that state’s law – not just because it risks the harassment of citizens and legal immigrants, but because it’s the wrong way to deal with this issue. It interferes with federal immigration enforcement. It makes it more difficult for local law enforcement to do its job. It strains state and local budgets. And if other states follow suit, we’ll have an unproductive and unworkable patchwork of laws across the country.
We need an immigration policy that works; a policy that meets the needs of families and businesses while honoring our tradition as a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws. We need it for the sake of our economy, our security, and our future. It may not be the easy thing to do politically. But I didn’t run for President to do what’s easy. I ran to do what’s hard. I ran to do what’s right. And when I think something’s the right thing to do, I think even my critics would have to admit I’m pretty persistent. They can call me a lot of things, but they can’t say I’m not persistent.
And the Senate’s going to have a chance to do the right thing over the next few weeks when Senator Reid brings the DREAM Act to the floor. In the past, this was a bill that was supported by a majority of Democrats and Republicans. There’s no reason it shouldn’t be again. I’ve been a supporter since I was in the Senate, and I will do whatever it takes to support the Congressional Hispanic Caucus’ efforts to pass this bill so that I can sign it into law on behalf of students seeking a college education and those who wish to serve in our country’s uniform.
But look – to make real progress on these or any issues, we’ve got to break the Republican leadership’s blockade. Let’s be clear about this. Without the kind of bipartisan effort we had just a few short years ago, we can’t get these reforms across the finish line. But their leadership has made reaching 60 votes the norm for nearly everything the Senate has to do. And the American people’s business is on hold because, simply put, the other party’s platform has been “no.”
For example, consider the public servants I’ve nominated to carry out that business. Most of them have been supported widely and approved unanimously by Senate committees. But they’ve been held up for months by the Republican leadership. They can’t even get an up-or-down vote on their confirmation. I nominated a man you all know well, Raul Yzaguirre, to be our Ambassador to the Dominican Republic. He’s been waiting for 10 months. Right now, there are 21 judges who’ve been held up for months while their courts have sat empty. Three of them are Hispanic – like Judge Albert Diaz, who I nominated to the Fourth Circuit Court. He’s been waiting for 10 months. This is a widely-respected state court judge, military judge, and Marine Corps attorney. He was approved unanimously by the Judiciary Committee. But just last month, the Senate Republican leader objected to a vote on his confirmation yet again. When he was asked why, he basically admitted it was simple partisan payback. Partisan payback.
We can’t afford that kind of game-playing right now. We need serious leaders for serious times. That’s the kind of leadership this moment demands. That’s what we need right now. Because when I get out and talk with folks, no one’s asking me, “Hey, Barack, which party’s scoring more points?” No one’s saying, “Oh, don’t worry about us; I just want you to do what’s best for November.”
What they’re interested in is how they’re going to find a job when they’ve only known one trade their whole life. How they’re going to put their kids through college. How they’re going to pay the bills if they get sick. How they’re going to retire when their savings are so beat up. They’re the folks we’re here for. They’re the folks we’re fighting for.
That’s why we passed Wall Street reform – for every hard-working family who’s tired of getting taken advantage of every time they opened their credit card bill, or mortgage payment, or tried to send money to help their parents and families abroad.
That’s why we’re reforming America’s schools so that all our children have a chance to learn the skills they need for today’s economy. We eliminated tens of billions of dollars in wasteful subsidies to big banks that provide student loans, and we’re using that money to make college more affordable for millions of students, including more than 100,000 Latino students.
That’s why we passed health insurance reform for Americans who are sick of being gouged by insurance companies that jack up rates and deny coverage because you have a preexisting condition. Now, millions of Americans with insurance can get free preventive care. Now, nine million Latinos and tens of millions of Americans will be able to afford quality health care for the first time.
That’s why we cut taxes for small business owners and 95 percent of working Americans. Instead of giving tax breaks to corporations to create jobs overseas, we’re cutting taxes for companies that put our people to work here at home. Instead of tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans who don’t need them and didn’t ask for them; we’re fighting to cut taxes for the middle class. That’s what we’re about. That’s what we’re fighting for.
But you know what? When it comes to just about everything we’ve tried to do, almost every Republican in Congress folded their arms and said no. Even where we usually agree, they say no. They think it’s better to score political points than actually solve problems. So they said no to help for small businesses. No to middle-class tax cuts. No to making college affordable. No to comprehensive immigration reform. Their platform, apparently, is “no se puede.” Is that a bumper sticker you want on your car?
In fact, the chairman of their campaign committee said that if they take over, they’d go back to “the exact same agenda” they had for much of the decade. They’re saying they’ll repeal Wall Street reform and health insurance reform. They’ll give the special interests a pen and let them write the rules again.
And right now, because of that Republican blockade, those special interests – even foreign corporations – can spend tens of millions of dollars on campaign ads without even having to disclose who they are. They can call themselves “Americans for Apple Pie” or “Moms for Motherhood,” and use their voice to drown out yours. To let Wall Street write rules that take advantage of Main Street. To let insurance companies write rules that let them cover or drop folks whenever and however they please. To go back to that “exact same agenda.”
Well, that agenda didn’t work out so well for Latinos. That agenda didn’t work out so well for anybody in our country. And it’s not going to solve the challenges we face. You have every right to keep the heat on me and the Democrats, and I hope you do.
But don’t forget who is standing with you, and who is standing against you. Don’t ever believe that this election coming up doesn’t matter. Don’t forget who secured health care for 4 million children, including the children of legal immigrants. Don’t forget who won new Pell Grants for more than 100,000 Latino students. Don’t forget who fought for credit card reform, a new agency to protect consumers from predatory lending, and protections for folks who send remittances back home. Don’t forget who cut taxes for working families. Don’t forget who your friends are. No se olviden. We cannot go back.
Not now. Not when there is so much work to be done. We’ve got to move forward. We’ve got to move forward on jobs, on the economy, on immigration reform, on all the unfinished business of our time. These are serious times that require serious leaders and serious citizens, and your voice matters. Your voice can make the difference. Si, se puede.
Let me close by saying this. Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. To British and French, Dutch and Spanish, Mexican and countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land. We didn’t always get along, of course. But over the centuries, what eventually bound us together – what made us Americans – was not a matter of blood or birth, but rather faith and fidelity to the shared values that we all hold so dear.
That’s what makes us unique. That’s what makes us strong. The ability to recognize our common humanity; to remember that in this country, equality and opportunity are not just words to be said, but promises to be kept.
That is our calling now – to keep those promises for the next generation. No matter which way the political winds shift, I will stand with you for that better future. And if you’ll stand with me; if we remember that fundamental truth: that divided we fall, but united we are strong, and out of many, we are one; then you and I will finish what we’ve started. We will make sure that America forever remains an idea and a place that is big enough and bold enough and brave enough to accommodate the dreams of all our children and all our peoples for all our years to come.
Thank you, God Bless You, and God Bless the United States of America. ###
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pluggedin
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:22pmIt’s no mistake that he left that out. Because if God is the one that gives rights, then government can’t be.
Report Post »hunterx767
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:05pmyou hit the nail on the head oh and to who ever made the comment about science proving god doesn;t exist is that why evolution changes every other week? true unbiased science only proves there is a creator
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:05pmTrue unbiased science? So if it disproves god it is automatically biased?
Catch 22.
Report Post »hunterx767
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 1:37amno true unbiased science ony seeks knowledge so obviously an evolutionist will try to disprove god and a creationist will try to prove an unbiased will take all facts and see which is correct
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 12:54pmEvolution does not disprove a creator.
Report Post »Huff-a-Ton Post
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:22pmThis is sick. Just watch his eyes as he scans ahead on the tele-prompter. Reminds me of the mobs code of silence regarding not speaking to cops. This guy has an aversion to mentioning anything higher than government.
Report Post »ME
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 11:41pmIn his mind he leads the government so he is god, to acknowledge that he may be held accountable but a high power, well that just will not do.
Report Post »RAR
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:21pmI think he was about to say endowed by me but thought better of it.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:31pmI agree 100%.
Report Post »and they tell us he was some kind of a professor of Constitutional law
or something !
rocktruth
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 10:41pmYeah, It almost sounds like the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATIONS!
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 6:27amYour right. Pure jealousy.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:21pmI knew it… he’s an atheist / agnostic. He only embraced “Christianity” to get into office, and made sure it was the Black Liberation flavor, as he is a racist.
The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.
Report Post »GlennBeckUsesVicksVaporub
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:20pm”Who calls a shot like that? Who makes a decision like that? It’s a disturbing trend.”
Report Post »— Sarah Palin, pushing a conspiracy theory that ”In God We Trust” had been moved to the edge of coins by the Obama administration (the change was made by the Bush administration in 2007 and was later reversed by Congress, before Obama took office), West Allis, Wisconsin, Nov. 6, 2009
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:26pmYou are an imbecile.
Report Post »– BROKER0101 posted on The Blaze, September 18th, 2010
GlennBeckUsesVicksVaporub
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:20pmAdd your comments
Report Post »pistonpilot
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:19pmChoose the harder right, not the easier wrong. Obama was an easy wrong who so far has done nothing right for the country.
Report Post »PostProgressiveAmerican
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:19pmWow. I am an atheist and I found that offensive. But I guess if you think you are the one that grants the rights to the people you can’t really quote it as written.
Report Post »leftylemn
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:17pmRights granted by man can also be taken away by the grantor… How convenient for Obama.
Report Post »INXIL
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 1:37amI am sorry, for the lot of us, that u were offended. I have been reading these blogs for days, and find myself wondering: “How will we ever be able to come to a common conclusion if all we do is exactly what the left does (spit on our opponents)? We should respond with love, and an understanding that all views have been nurtured by our respective environments and influences. Informed logical debate trumps name calling. As for your atheism, I’ve been there. I have taken a journey that has spanned many years and many religions; one of the most insightful journeys of my life…We athiests (and former ones) are in a position to question from a totally unbiased standpoint. On that note, I would like to leave you with a possible starting point for one magnificent adventure: The Case For a Creator, by Lee Strobel…a former atheist. An attorney and former legal writer for a Chicago newspaper, he set out to disprove Christianity when his wife converted. He is now a christian and has written 3 books on his quest to disprove Christianity. I found this one to be the most revealing, as he talked with some of the greatest scientific minds in the world, including atheists who stated it takes more faith to be an atheist today than a christian (due to todays scientific findings). Bones of Contention is another good read that questions many of the things we are taught today about how old the earth is and when man appeared. It will amaze you to see how nicely science and religion fit so neatly together….almost as if someone gave science to us to “Question with boldness, even the existence of God.”-Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »PostProgressiveAmerican
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 7:30amThank you INXIL. I like to think that I keep an open mind, and hope that my personal journey is not over; I hope I never feel I have all the answers, for then life would be truly boring.
Report Post »sbleve
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 10:43amAll persons have a creator. A few believe in the biology of man. That biology is a creator, giving each at birth the ability to speak and think although in newborn efforts become the center of adult life. Prior to 1776 there was but one concept of life, King. Individual in self governance had not been discovered but was always available by the creator.
Report Post »doglady
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:18pmWhatever comes out of his mouth is a lie. I‘m sure his teleprompter has lies on it too and when it doesn’t that is the one time he changes it.
Report Post »GlennBeckUsesVicksVaporub
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:17pm”What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?”
Report Post »—Sarah Palin, inquiring with Wasilla librarian Mary Ellen Emmons about banning books right after taking office in 1996
IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:25pmRed Herring. Strawman. Logically fallacious.
Report Post »van
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:28pmMaybe we could start with “I have two mommies” or “Daddy does uncle Mariposa” or “dreams of my father”. The list could get quite long.
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:50pmNice libby-feint to the left there Rub-A-Dubby. Right out of the radicals rule book, don’t let them stay on the subject. If they’re talking about an actual fact that puts your idiot of choice in a bad light you make a quick left into the Wasilla Library. Bark loud, for your time is short.
leftylemn
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:09pmYawn………
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 12:04am…and this has exactly what to do with the subject????
Report Post »sicofcareerpoliticians
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:17pmHis childhood indoctrination is exposed once again. Mother was an atheist, grandparents that raised him were atheist, If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? I would have a little respect for him, if he would just admit it.
Report Post »grandpa2
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:17pmyup, dumb God fearin’ Gun totin red-necks. Sick and tired of yall smart folks tryin to screw it up for us. get your hands of our constitution and our declaration of independence. and soon we will have independence from yall.
Report Post »barack forget, he has a teleprompter! who has their head in the sand?
13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:16pmIt’s my belief that if the Founders had the science we do today, creator would have been left out completely.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:23pmAnd if the Queen had balls, she’d be King, you imbecile.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:29pm@broker0101
Epic WIN!
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:35pmI love America, I get to piss Broker and say what I want. Did I touch a nerve moron.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:46pm13thGenerationAmerican
His reply highlighted the fallacy of your argument. It was speculative, highly assumptive and created a strawman. You are projecting an interpretation of the founders based upon your ideology. Read THEIR words in other documents in order to understand what THEY meant.
Report Post »RCScrolls
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:47pmScience today prooves even more that GOD does exist. its just that now they have convinced themselves that you can get something from nothing. Just like a marxist.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:51pm13, the only nerve you touched was my funny bone. I’m laughing my tail off at you, you imbecile. Take your beating like a man, or isn’t that part of your culture? (I honestly don’t know – or care)
Report Post »Jack007
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:10pmPlay Nice Children!
Report Post »leftylemn
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:13pmCan you point out to me where science has disproven the existance of God? I seem to have missed that journal.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:16pmSorry, JACK, the time to play nice with the left is OVER. No more Mr. NiceConservative.
Report Post »MJ1025
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:58pmThe Creator created science.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:19pmYou keep getting hammered 13, you may want to retell the story of how it is you have become the authority on what REALLY was happening 13 generations ago. It’s not about what you know, it’s about who you know, right?
Changing my screenname next week to Washington‘s Housekeeper’s Uncle‘s Third Cousin’s greatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandson. I’m sure I could gain some credibility.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:42pmHey, 13, Where were your ancestors before @1750, when they became interlopers to America?
Report Post »Jack007
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:15pmImpeach the SOB
Report Post »Tatum
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:15pmWhy did He leave ‘HIS NAME’ out? Must be feeling pretty bad about what He’s done to the Country.
Report Post »Geetee52
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:12pmI wonder if most Democrats even realize just how far left this guy is.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:11pmSince his birth, Obama has been told that HE is some kind of God,
Report Post »so there is no way he is capable of even acknowledging that there is someone other than him who can be God.
BTW marxists don’t believe in God , and no way they’ll believe that God gave us our rights.
What rights people have has already been decided by karl marx and fredrick engels and mao and castro and che and polpot and alinsky.
Buck Bagaw
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:09pmProbably just “changeing history” as Michelle directed. Why would anybody, at this stage of the game, be surprised at anything coming out of his mouth. Two years and three months to go people. If we can neuter him in November the rest of the ride will be less bumpy.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:59pmWith all due respect, I have to disagree. Assuming that the Demo-Communist wing of the Big Government Party does loose it’s majorities to the more pragmatic Republi-Socialist wing, they are going to be really upset that their gravy train has been somewhat delayed once again. The lame duck session will produce all manner of last ditch grabs for more slaves sooner and the Omam Obama is subject to going even crazier than he already is. Things are going to get even rougher if the above comes to pass. Try to imagine what will happen when the Communists do as they have in the past, and try to “Rail Road” some of their other Sacred Cows down our throats. Not to mention that the economy continues to implode, and Omam Obama will Veto anything that the Congress does to help it.
The current Political Demolition Derby is a dead parallel to the run up to the Civil War in the 1850s. At the grass roots level, the interest in all things Martial is the very same as when the Southern Gun Clubs began forming. And the outcome while very different in some respects, will ultimately be the very same. While the Civil War was indeed fairly “Civil” with it’s clear cut North vs South definitions of territory and Massed Regulars fighting set place battles, directed by structured chains of command, this one will be very “Un-Civil”. More on the order of a spontaneous Continent Wide internal fire fight, with no definitive direction nor control. More like Afghanistan to the 50th power.
Report Post »AZfreeman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 1:40am“Two hundred and fifty years ago…Thomas Paine anonymously released a pamphlet that made the case for revolution using extraordinarily logical, straightforward, indisputable arguments. He called it “Common Sense”….Today we find ourselves back in 1776, but this time our path forward isn’t so clear. The abuses being perpetrated by our government are just as obvious (and I would add just as severe)…we sit idly by and watch as our hard won freedoms slowly dissolve into a puddle of apathy, political correctness, and out right corruption” This statement sums up the ethos of Glenn’s book “Common Sense”.
However in 1776 Thomas Paine wrote a pamphlet also called Common Sense. On page 154 of Glenn’s book you can find these words from Paine:
“..O ye that love mankind! Ye that dare oppose, not only the tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth! Every spot of the old world is overrun with oppression. Freedom hath been hunter round the globe. Asia, and Africa, have long expelled her. Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind..”
So the real question is…Who is John Galt? ..rf
Report Post »roninshaman
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:09pmI think his hesitation was because he was trying to find a way to take credit for these rights.
Report Post »BeeBee
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 8:26pmI‘m surprised he didn’t start the quote by saying, “Like I’VE always said”…
Report Post »I’m really starting to despise the guy.
I used to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But now I truly believe Obama really has a warped view of our country and our history.
God Help Us.
chinchokma
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 9:04pmI really like that sentence. ROFLMAO
Report Post »SRQVET
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:07pmIn his weak mind, Obamao believes our rights come from the government rather than our creator. What a sick marxist puppy.
Report Post »van
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:22pmI tend to disagree with you just a little bit, “obama doesn’t believe that Americans have any rights!”
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:00pmhes about to find out hes wrong.
Report Post »PhilipJames
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:06pmSometimes you just have to believe the simple answer and not get caught up in trying to find excuses for this fool…. Barack Obama really does not like America… this jerk is President and it is a shame.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:14pm…Wow you guys ARE dumb.
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:22pmSTUPID, Tell us more about the Second Amendment, you imbecile.
Recon
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:27pmOh the irony…Oh the double standard…Oh the shame of it all…
In a sick sense it’s nice to watch the Democratic party fold into itself, but on the other hand, I think the majority of these people need “special” mental attention.
As Reagan once said…”Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”
So true…
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:35pm“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
Report Post »-Constitution of the United States
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:47pmSTUPID, try to focus. What you just quoted (The Second Amendment) was your defense of “separation of church and state”. How’s that working out for you? You mind-boggling imbecile.
Report Post »msnbciscomedy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 9:31pmdouchemill thinks he can select his comments, right click, and hit delete so that no one will know he thought the 2nd amend. was sep of church and state……I know its entertaining, but lets start the no reply policy.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:03pmWow, you guys are dumb.
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:08pmYou are an imbecile. (This is my only response to the Lefty Dimwits from this point forward.)
Report Post »Stupid Windmill's (Therapist)
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:10pmThis well thought out comment comes from a person with the name “Stupid”? Put down the glue and back away from your keyboard. We talked about this exact situation during your therapy session yesterday.
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:11pmAnd your first name fits you perfectly.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:11pmLOL, troll FAIL. Lemme guess…he’s just out of context? Maybe he didn’t deliberately change the quote? Perhaps he as dumb as he appears to be and actually thought he was making a profound original statement. Either way, he deserves a free tride on the FAILBOAT for that one.
Report Post »Tatum
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:18pmYou are an imbecile.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:20pmI wasn’t actually expecting to get replies. Thanks for noticing.
Report Post »FREECOUNTRY
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:21pmHey Stupid, you sure are living up to your namesake. Stupid is as stupid does.
Report Post »You must not be an American since you clearly don’t understand the founding documents. If you did, you would be angry at this omission. Or you are as evil as communists usually are.
Going forward anything you say is irrelevant.
IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:28pmLadies and gentlemen, an example of a reply made by a 10 year old:
Stupid Windmill
Report Post »Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:20pm
I wasn’t actually expecting to get replies. Thanks for noticing
Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:28pmSo I am somehow magically a communist?
Huh, I always thought I was a teetotaler.
Report Post »flamedone1968
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:41pmI have yet to see you post anything intelligent, insightful, or even slightly engaging. You seem to have only weak slander and name calling at your disposal. Making attacks on others intelligence you make without showing signs of any yourself…
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:28pmNope, you’re definitely a Communist, maybe a “sober” one, but definitiely a Communist!!
Report Post »Byrd Flyer
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:09pmYou sound like Kurt on Gretawire Forum.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:11pmYour best insult of the day Stupid Windbag. Keep them short and to the point… less time to stick your foot in your mouth. Here’s one for your next post, so you don’t have to think too much “I know you are, but what am I?” That one works every time.
Report Post »tooky8
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:18pmHey everybody….Stupid Windmill will go away if we stop replying to his ignorant responses. It‘s not his fault that he doesn’t get it. He has been brainwashed by approximately 100 years of progressive manipulations and distortions, starting with Woodrow Wilson and continuing with FDR. He has been lied to since he was born by progressives and , unfortunately, he has bought into it. Let’s just stay on topic and let Stupid Windmill listen. If he says something worthy of a response (i.e. a legitimate debate based on facts), then by all means respond. Maybe over time he will start to get it like the rest of us do. Until then we just need to ignore him and Dingleberry, too.
Report Post »Skippy Toes
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:56pmAmen. Better ]dead than red.
Report Post »klstj
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 8:43pmyou have crossed the line and people that are good and decent on this site will not tolerate you and your scandalous lies. You have been reported by many.
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 11:54pmIs that the best you can do? Is this taxing your abilities?….”wow, you guys are dumb…well…your face is stupid” cripes…my 2 yr old grandkid can do better than that.
Report Post »STUPED WINMILL
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 2:20amSorry….My mom just caught me posting again and gave me a time out for this one.
Report Post »gbandy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 3:57pmHow dare this idiot make such a blatant insult to our Country and its founding Fathers.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:09pmSTUPID, you are an imbecile.
IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:15pmStupid Windmill— read, learn, and apologize.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-vs-the-rape-and-murder-site/
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:16pmGod is not someone who is forgotten easily.
Report Post »truth or consequences
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:24pmBlatant stupid! He is lucky he didn’t completely screw that up.
Report Post »postscript
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:31pmHey STUPID W… do you really believe he “forgot” the words… by their Creator? Or was it done intentionally? I personally don’t believe he “forgot”, I believe it was intentional. After all, shouldn’t the president know the words if he is quoting them?
Report Post »w4jle
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:52pmStupid,
Report Post »Don’t you have some homework you need to finish if you want your mom to let you go to the movies?
ron the veteran
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:55pmstupid take your lies to your buddys. you aint selling that crap here. did i say that dummed down enough for ya?
Report Post »postscript
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:49pmHey STUPID… this is posted on Ask.com…
Via Mediaite: A baseless rumor insinuating that Fox News pundit Glenn Beck may be guilty of rape and murder is spreading rapidly online thanks to a loose-knit gang of Internet pranksters whose stated mission is to skewer the bombastic talk show host using his own methods.
Their exploits are chronicled on a two-day-old website, GlennBeckRapedAndMurderedAYoungGirlIn1990.com.
“This site exists to try and help examine the vicious rumour that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990,” reads a blurb at the top of the home page. “Why won’t Glenn Beck deny these allegations?”
Don’t miss the fine print at the bottom:
Notice: This site is parody/satire. We assume Glenn Beck did not rape and murder a young girl in 1990, although we haven‘t yet seen proof that he didn’t. But we think Glenn Beck definitely uses tactics like this to spread lies and misinformation.
Now, knowing this is a PARODY/SATIRE site, do you still SHEEPISHLY follow this tripe?
thepatriotdave
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:58pmI think I have this windmill person figured out… Its Michele O.
Report Post »msnbciscomedy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 9:27pmOMG, windmil just got his arse handed to him above by calling the second amendment sep of church and state……..So he moves one down and says glenn beck raped and killed a girl……Real nice douchemill, real nice.
Report Post »STUPED WINMILL
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 2:23amYou guys just don’t understand what its like to be a bed-wetter.
AMERCITIZN
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:51amI this this man has changed his name from “dangleballs”
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 3:56pmWaiting for the first Lefty moron to invoke “separation of church and state”…..
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:11pmReady…. set… Church and State!
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:11pm2nd amendment means what?
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:12pmI’ll do, after all my family was actually there
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:16pmSTUPID, the Second Amendment is known as the Right to Bear Arms, you unbelievable imbecile.
IntheKnowOG
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:19pm13thGenerationAmerican, REALLY? You still flogging that dead horse? No one cares. You and Meghan McCain seem to think your bloodline exempts you from being an idiot. That could not be farther from reality.
Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:24pmSubject to interpretation.
2nd Amendment says more than Right to keep and bear arms…
Report Post »Recon
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:25pm“special” mental attention.
As Reagan once said…”Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”
So true…
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:27pmWe know how modest “The One” is ,perhaps he didn’t want to seem too cocky mentioning how HE (being the creator) had endowed us with those unalienable Rights .No, wait, maybe he has decided to revoke those rights after all He Hath Given Perhaps..ith He Will Take..ith Away. I admit I couldn’t watch the video ,I could only read the story ,I would rather hear a dog puke than his jaw flap…
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:32pm”Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”
Good oll Ronald McDonald..
I can see why he closed down the insane asylums…
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:33pmSTUPID, please, tell us ALL about the Second Amendment and what it says in addition to the Right to Bear Arms. You absolutely amazing imbecile.
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:35pmSTUPID, since you’ve obviously never seen it, here is the Second Amendment, in its entirety, You super-colossal imbecile, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
CatB
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:35pmHow about MOSQUE and STATE!
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:15pmCATB
Since a Mosque is the meeting place for Muslims, it is exempted from any seperation of church and state. ISLAM is not a RELEGION. It is a TOTALITARIAN POLITICAL entity DISGUISED as a RELEGION. The Omam Obama Caliph of the World knows this all too well.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:25pmSTUPID,
The literal translation of the second amendment, in more current vernacular would be:
Everyone that is loyal to the Constitution, get your rifles locked, loaded and zeroed in, so they can be carried out into the field for the erradication of Communist Vermin.
Report Post »diesel71dan
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:36pmThis irritates me more than anything this sorry excuse for a President has done to date! I want to hear Robert Gibb’s make an excuse for this one!! Watch it again. It looks like he is about to have a seizure at that point of the speech. There is NO WAY he can say it was accidental.
Report Post »Lets keep our priorities straight people….. Love of God, Country and Family. Without that we are no better than…. well than the president :(
PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:40pmAre you sure you know what the word “Literal” means Gott-Em-Mauser?
Report Post »MESO71
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:26pmStupid windbag!
Report Post »For two hundred years, there has never been the slightest doubt in this nation as to exactly what was meant by “well regulated militia”. The purpose of the right to keep and bear arms was that because we must have a militia, and that has been a historic threat to the freedom of man, the people should be fully allowed to keep and bear arms in order to “regulate” said militia.
Your idea would make absolutely no sense whatsoever… We would simply all join a militia… Then what???
The Constitution also guarantees that we have the right to rise up against the government if they try to take away our constitutional rights… So keep pushing!
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:34pmMES, C’mon, man, you’re making us look bad. STUPID cited the Second Amendment as his defense of the “separation of church and state”. The imbecile has no idea what any of the Bill of Rights say.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:38pmWell PUBIC-PENCIL
Yes I do. It means as from the gospel/ with no embellishment/etc. etc. but then you’ve got a dictionary, now don’t you my good Communist Troll.
What you don’t have is any understanding of how the real world works, nor what that means for folks like you, all safe and sound in your artificially supported little “I am a Superior Progressive Human Being World” Well time is coming that this will change. My parsing of the 2nd should give you, Oh Learned One, a perfect picture of just what it will be like when your bubble bursts here shortly.
I am sure that you are far better educated than I am, I just did High School and straight into a reality you wouldn’t survive for 15 minutes. I am sure that there are many words that you know the meaning of, and I don’t. But bottom line PUBIC, I‘ll wager you haven’t a clue how many mils to hold for a 10MPH full value wind at 1400 yds. But I do, along with so much more, and pretty soon now we’ll get to see just which kind “Education” is the more valuable.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:47pmit means i can own a gun and shoot the stupid dinglenut who comes through my door.
Report Post »Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:08pmIt seems to me that Mr Publius just gets his kicks by being a gadfly but here’s my two cents on the subject of church and state. First, I think the intention of the founders was to prevent the government from institutionalizing or being controlled by any particular faith, as the history of Europe showed was a bad idea. Second, I believe the founders original intention has been misinterpreted (actually, deliberately twisted) to mean separation of God and state. The statement that Mr. Obama choked on is the single most important principle upon which our country was founded, because it establishes the supremacy of the Individual. Everything that follows hinges on this. The entire purpose of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is to guarantee the freedom of the Individual, and without that we are nothing. Acknowledgment of the SOURCE of our rights as individuals is in the DNA of our government and cannot be separated, unless, of course, by a “fundamental transformation” of our country.
Report Post »MESO71
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:09pmBroker,
Report Post »Oops, I thought he might actually know what he was doing, and was making a lame attempt at changing the subject.
Alas, that’s what I get for trying to reason with Stupidity.
broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:23pmThe FIRST amendment says this, and ONLY this pertaining to religion, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Very, and I mean VERY little interpretation of this is necessary. It is written in very clear, still easily understood English. Congress cannot create a state religion (like the Church of England), nor pass any laws restricting any person from exercising their religion of choice. Of course, imbeciles will try to tell you that this means that the President of the United States of America should NEVER utter the word, “Creator”. That’s why they are imbeciles, you see.
Report Post »Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:39pmPublius, I think maybe you just like to be a gadfly around here, but here’s my two cents worth on church and state. First, I believe the founders were trying to prevent the possibility of any particular faith from. ever controlling the government. Second, I believe they never intended to separate God and State. The statement that Mr. Obama choked on is the single most important principle underlying our government. Its acknowledgment of the SOURCE of our rights and freedom establishes the supremacy of the Individual, and the whole point of the constitution and Bill of Rights is to guarantee those rights. This is part of the DNA of our country, and can never be separated, without of course, a “fundamental transformation”.
Report Post »Midwest Belle
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 10:28pmDear Stupid Windmill (and might I add, that seems to be a great handle for you!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution#Articles_of_the_Constitution (Complete constitution – I suggest you READ it now.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution (second amendment – READ IT!!)
COMPLETE 2ND AMEMDMENT TEXT:
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Now read that and tell me WHERE it mentions ANYTHING ELSE you referred to. Hmmmm????
Report Post »hanna00
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 11:41pmI have already tried to discuss the “seperation of church and state metaphor” with PubliusPencilman. All that was he/she stated was firstly calling me a “sir” ??? (my screen name is hanna00?? I am a ma’am”) And secondly just stating church and state metaphor. I politely tried to restate that cliche appeared in 1947 in a decision from Everson vs. Board of Education from Justice Hugo Black and for 150+ years we (the nation never used that metaphor). PubliusPencilman continues to stress it is “fact” and has always been…. PubliusPencilman fails to realize that many other have refuted that metaphor including Chief Rehnquist. Stop using the metaphor as fact….Freedomwatcherguy good explaining to Publius-Pencilman…however, all that is rebutted by this person is “establishment clause” and no rebuttal or the what the “original intent” of the founders had… Good luck making headway because I think all the reply you will receive is repeating and ignoring your point….
Report Post »STUPED WINMILL
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 1:32amOK…I lied again…I can’t help myself. I actually don’t have either organ. I only wish I was a hermaphrodite. That way I could actually get lucky.
PostProgressiveAmerican
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 7:20amActually, the meaning of the phrase “well regulated militia” has been discussed with one interpretation being that the National Guard is the militia …luckily, the ‘understood’ definition prevailed and the individual’s right to “keep and bear arms” has prevailed.
As for Church and State, “congress” is the key word…no NATIONAL religion. Originally States could (and did) have official State religions; the 14th Ammmendment was interpreted by the Supreme Court to extend the First Ammendment to States as well, thus prohibiting State and local religious establishment.
Please note that “separation of church and state” is not in the Constitution; this term is, I believe, from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson.
Back to the topic: Obama was wrong. Read it as written, or don’t read it at all.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 9:05amHanna,
Ma’am. First of all, I think you are misrepresenting my previous posts. I did respond to you, and you never posted again. Anyway, this issue is not a matter of fact, but rather of interpretation, and the interpretation that I support has been reconfirmed by decision after decision throughout the last 150 years. Certainly some have gone the other way, but I think the concept (it’s a concept, not a cliche) has largely been upheld, for good reason.
OK, if you want to talk about the original intent of the Establishment Clause regarding the Church of England, then you must necessarily interpret the Second Amendment by original intent, which discusses militias and refers to “arms”; at the time this meant primitive guns like black powder muskets. It was, after all, about 220 years ago.
By the way, you are wrong about the appearance of the phrase “Separation of church and state.” Jefferson wrote in 1802: “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should ”make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.”
That sounds like a pretty clear statement of original intent.
Obama clearly screwed up here–he should have read the document as it was written. But I can think of an awful lot of reasons why we should uphold the separation of church and state, and I’ve never heard a convincing argument of why we should not.
Report Post »Contrarian51
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:33amI see we were unable to resist the urge to bring in the argument that the Constitution is outdated. The founders anticipated this, thus the mechanism of amending the Constitution was created. If you want to assert the “outdated” argument, then work to amend it. I know, it‘s too hard and it’s so much easier to launch attacks through litigation. Man up. If you’re right, the states, through we the people, will get on board.
Until it’s amended, the Constitution says what it says, whether or not you, Obama, any other progressives or anyone else like all, part or none of it, and it’s time we got back to letting it stand on as written without a bunch of interpretation and extrapolation through litigation.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:45amGott-Em-Mauser,
What makes you think that I care one whit about your life story or your level of education? You know nothing about me, so I will ask that you stop just making crap up. My concern is that your “literal” meaning of the 2nd Amendment was actually a whackjob fantasy.
Leaving aside the “well-regulated militia” phrase, think about what the framers mean by “necessity to the security of a free state.” Now, there might be a number of possible interpretations here, but given that the Americans were contending with some very powerful monarchies at this time, it would stand to reason that “security” here means freedom from foreign invasion and domination. You know, just incase the British come back, which they did in the 1810s.
Somewhere, in your twisted mind, you think that what these very intelligent political elites who wrote the document meant was actually that anyone with a gun can set aside the rule of law when they do not agree with their elected officials. Note that the wording says “security of a free state,” not security of your compound in Montana.
To take up arms against the United States is treason. If the Tea Party is really not a radical fringe organization, as so many of your have argued, then I call on you folks to rejects this crazy rhetoric coming from Gott-Em-Mauser. Your silence on this problem is deafening.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:58amContrarian,
The document that Obama read was not the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence. Obama should not have hesitated in his reading, because the Declaration was not a legal document, unlike the Constitution, which includes no reference to God.
Let’s note too that the Declaration mentions a “Creator,” which is the most generic reference possible. Many cultures have myths involving a creator, so the document could refer to Prometheus as much as to the Christian God. Note too, that at the time there were really no competing theories of the origin of humanity, so “endowed by their creator” could mean something as innocuous as “by virtue of existing.” Either way, it is not law.
Report Post »Contrarian51
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 11:20amPPman, I made a separate comment about Obama’s edit of the Declaration. I responded to this thread on the Constitutional issue because it had veered off into the “separation of church and state” venue.
I do know which one says what. I try not to make lengthy posts thus I made this point here and the other point elsewhere.
I will say this: Just because the Declaration is not “law” does not mean it was at all appropriate for Obama to misread it.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 12:17pmI agree with you about the importance of no misreading things. The conversation here has indeed become a bit mixed up.
Report Post »Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 2:33pmLove the conversation! Thanks to all who have joined. this is a subject that is crucially important, because it deals with the spiritual underpinnings of our nation which the rabid church/state separatists are ignorantly working to remove. The Declaration of Independence is a spiritual document which establishes our country on the principle of the inherent spirituality (and therefore supreme importance of) the Individual. As Jefferson stated, this is a self-evident Truth. Our nation is literally founded on spiritual truth. The whole concept of Individual freedom, which the Constitution and Bill of rights are designed to protect, is based on this Truth.
Report Post »There is no way to overstress the importance of this. If we ever lose it, we are lost. The issue of separation of church and state is not related to the relationship of God and state. I don’t care what the Supreme Court said; spirituality and religion are not the same thing! Very great damage is being done due to confusion about this. With freedom comes responsibility. Individual freedom and responsibility are still basic to the conservative worldview, and that is why I invariably find myself on the conservative side of the debate. Convervatism is based on the idea that there is something worth hanging on to. Individual freedom and responsibility is, I believe, worth hanging on to.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 5:35pmOK FreedomWatcherGuy. I don’t see the necessary connection between “spirituality” and individual freedom/responsibility. Does everyone have to subscribe to this spirituality in order to be free? Nor do I see why we are “lost” if we insist on a separation between church and state. I’ve heard this same claim again and again, but never a convincing argument as to why. In fact, if we insist on that separation, then you can take a clear and principles stance against something like the Wellesley public school mosque fiasco. Otherwise, you are stuck making the argument of being for prayer in schools, but not THAT kind of prayer, and that’s not quite convincing.
Take a look at the blog section of this site about the “creator” issue. “Creator” can just as easily mean “nature,” which is not exactly spiritual.
Report Post »Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 12:41amPublius.
Report Post »This is so close to my heart, so I’m glad that you asked. To be frank, I think my statements were pretty clear, and I an tempted to just say with Jefferson that it is “self evident”and leave it at that. But this is very important, so I’ll try my best to explain. By the way, I never argue Principle. I can’t think of a more useless thing to do. So, if this doesn’t clarify it for you at first, perhaps it will at some point in the future. First, I never said anything about being lost through separation of church and state. Not at all. What I said was, that the rabid church/state separatists, and by that I mean people who are doing things like suing to get “In God We Trust” removed from the coinage and so forth, and no doubt would remove the phrase from the Declaration we have been discussing in this thread, have a wrongheaded concept of this issue. I said the separation of church and state has nothing to do with the relationship of God (Spirit, Truth etc.) and state. The statement in the Declaration that “we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights” is a clear declaration of the spiritual nature of the Individual. This phrase in the Declaration, by placing Truth within the Individual, effectively establishes the government upon the Individual. It says we possess rights as an intrinsic part of our being, Can we see these “rights”? No, they are invisible, and they are an inseparable part of our being, which is also invisible. This is the spirituality to which I have referred, not some religious dogma. If you can acknowledge the Invisible, you can acknowledge Spirit. Truth is invisible, it is spiritual. Whatever is founded in Truth will endure, but that which is not founded on Truth is only temporary. So you see how it is that our nation is literally founded on spiritual Truth and why it is of paramount importance to remain on that footing. And why, without it, we are lost. The Individual, endowed with spiritual freedom, therefore carries the responsibility of pursuing its own happiness according to how much of the invisible resources it can express. This is how Man is meant to live. The outer life (on Earth) an expression of the inner Truth (as it is in Heaven). There is no other nation on earth that has this as the foundation of its existence. Now do you see the importance, and why we must never lose it?
Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 2:28amDoes everyone have to subscribe to this spirituality in order to be free?
Report Post »Interesting question.
No. We only have to express our Individuality.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:52amI think I understand what you are saying now FreedomWatcherGuy, and I do appreciate you taking the time to explain what you mean. I was a but confused by your use of spirituality, and I still think that it is a somewhat awkward and imprecise use of the word, but I see what you are saying. In fact, it seems like your idea of “spirit” is rather Hegelian, and I‘m wondering if it isn’t the same thing as “concept” or “abstraction.” I think that you will find many people agree with your fundamental point about the intangibility of rights and freedoms, and many folks who support the separation of church and state will make that point with a different philosophical vocabulary. I do not think that President Obama disagrees with this point either, and those who think he does disagree rarely offer convincing evidence.
That said, I think these are different issues, since the issues of “Church and State” revolve around tangible practices and observances (praying, monuments of the 10 Commandments, invocations of God, etc.) However, these issues might be beside the point of this particular thread.
Report Post »Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 4:47pmPublius,
Report Post »I composed a reply to you but it seems it didn’t post, so I’ll try again. Here Goes.
I have to confess ignorance of Hegel so can’t comment on that. No, the spirituality I refer to is not synonymous with terms like “concept” or “abstraction”, as these are mental constructs, and Spirit transcends the mental level. The experience of Spiritual Reality cannot itself be communicated through words, any more than the experience of drinking water, for instance, can in any way be communicated through words to someone who has never experienced water. Words can only take one so far, but an experience is “self evident”. To say that it is beyond concepts is about as close as I can get. The Declaration of Independence acknowledges the endowment of all men (the Individual) with spiritual gifts and uses this as the justification for the founding of the new nation. The scriptural authority for this, in Christian terms, is the Master’s statement, “The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.” This actually is the principle which establishes the Individual as the infinite Source of all spiritual qualities and the only avenue of their expression. Jefferson , in the Declaration, therefore clearly established the founding of our country on the principle of the preeminence of the Individual. THIS is the thing that can never be separated, and as I said has nothing whatever to do with the concept of separation of church and state. As far as I know, ours is the only country in the world that is so founded. When I said that if we lose this, we are lost what I really meant was that our unique identity as a nation would be lost. That, to me, would be an immense tragedy. Thank you for helping me clarify my thoughts on this matter.
Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 5:03pmBTW, scriptural authority for the concept of separation of church and state can be found in another of the Master’s statements,”My Kingdom is not of this world.” There is no such thing in the scriptures of Islam; quite the opposite. That is precisely why Islam is so dangerous.
Report Post »barbaraw62
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 3:55pmNot surprising from this Socialist Secular president…. He purposely left out those words! As my husband said to me when he got elected, “He is the most dangerous person in America!” He definitely has proven to all that he HATES this country and all it stands for…
79USMC83
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:37pmDefinition of TRAITOR
1: one who betrays another’s trust or is false to an obligation or duty
2: one who commits treason
Now put the word CONGRESS in for TRAITOR!!! This is the ONLY reason there IS a TEA PARTY.
Crist is a TRAITOR for running as an Independant. Specter was a TRAITOR for jumping ship also!!
Beck has a rally about CHARACTER, the LEFT is all over him and the people that attended it!!!
Many of WE THE PEOPLE are sick of your PARTY POLITICS. The reason the center has moved RIGHT though is not for the Republican PARTY so much. It is that the other choice is to vote for PROGRESSIVES,SOCIALISTS and COMMUNIST like the COMMUNIST O’Donnel will be running against in Delaware!!
Look at all the Dems that are running away from the “Speech Giver” and the Health-Care Bill they voted for just to get votes and stay in office. THIS is what WE THE PEOPLE are sick of!!
Mandatory Health-Care was not a tax and Steph read him the freaking definition. Now that it is going to lose in court it is a TAX!! The “Speech Giver” is the worst of the worst he thinks that the CONSTITUTION and GOD are not part of HIS fundamentally TRANSFORMATION of America. This man is a TRAITOR!!!
WE THE PEOPLE do not mind paying tax’s it is the CRAP we pay for. $800,000 dollars of STIMULUS money to teach AFRICAN men how to wash their Genitalia !!!
BETTER DEAD THAN RED !!
TERM LIMITS NOW !!!
FAIR TAX NOW !!
NO MORE PENSIONS FOR CONGRESS!!
NO MORE CAREER POLITICIANS!!
Diego Garcia
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:38pmCreator with a capital C is our judeo-christian God and w/o that in place the sentence has NO beneficence. It is literally completely empty and meaningless. Think about it. Dwell on the idea and what it means with no Creator….
Pursuing life, liberty and happiness is what any Islamist or Mexican drug trafficker is doing. Is that what Obama thinks this country was built on? That pause was a virtual conniption. This is my scariest moment with this president.
tobywil2
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:38pmIf Obama’s teleprompter malfunctioned and flashed the TRUTH and Obama chocked on that truth, could the HEIMLICH MANEUVER be applied in time to avoid Biden becoming President? http://commonsense21c.com/
CatB
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:39pmHe will probably blame TOTUS. Nothing is ever Obama’s fault. Surely he didn’t leave it out on purpose … wink wink. Dangerous .. definitely!
Report Post »Skandelon27
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:47pm“Whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven.” – Jesus, the creator.
unionrockstar
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:53pmYour husband is exactly right. I tried my very best to discourage other from voting for this pathetic excuse for an American.
Report Post »God help us to endure until……..2012
flamedone1968
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 4:55pm79USMC83
I don’t think the center has moved right at all… I think it was even been drug some to the left and finally just had enough and is starting to fight back.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:18pmThe least he could have done is to have inserted Allah in there. Don’t know who exactly the World Caliph answers to, but Omam Obama got some splainin to do!!
Report Post »justanamerican
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 5:45pmAbsoultely intentionally left out! You can see is fluttering beety eyes right before he says it. This communist is trying to rewrite history once again.
All he talks about is how everyone BUT white males , built this great country……LOL He’s a clown
Report Post »Freedomwatcherguy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:11pmIf we rule out the possibility that he was experiencing some sort of mental lapse or senior moment, clearly he has a big problem with that word! Could it be that he is afraid of ******* off the rabid church/state separatists? Or maybe he actually disagrees with the statement as written and believes rights are given by the government? Some reporter should ask him to explain it; we need to have an answer on this.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:21pmare you kidding? i been screaming at my tv ever since i first saw the guy. he made my skin crawl. and i got this empty feeling in the pit of my guts. i am scared for my kids. they will have to fight this all their lives if we dont kill this commie crap right now. we must clean out our schools, our colleges, and high schools are breeding ground for this assanine kind of thinking. we must put a stop to this unamerican thinking and put God back in our schools. if the ******** dont want to have thier kids learn it, let them be stupid all their lives. this is our nation and we will have it our way! dont like it? get out! our constitution means everything to us. dont like it? get out! its really simple if you want change? go find a country thats living under that system. america has one we like, and we will fight to keep it.
sodun
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:26pmImpolite or not, I would have interrupted him. “ENDOWED BY OUR CRE-A-TOR!” I just sent this article to everyone I know.
Report Post »Sicboy
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 6:53pmWhy is anyone surprised? This FOOL shows us everyday that he has no respect for the Lord or this country. We can only hope a real Conservative will come forward and start hammering this guy. And I’m not talking about Palin. We need someone who will stay to the end. Not bail in the middle of the game.
Report Post »M.Witherington
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:13pmUnlike Mr. Matthews, I didn’t get a thrill up my leg. Not only did he leave out Creator, he left out a few other choice words as well. Her a just a few:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Report Post »dorothea
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:19pmAgreed 100%…When it comes to our Creator and the greatness of the USA, he shows that he is not a Christian and like any FOREIGNER that has no feelings for our great Nation.
Report Post »MESO71
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:20pmWant to really lose your mind?
Check out the new proposed currency! Glenn Becks head is gonna explode! These fools believe that our current financial situation is caused by the classic, historic design of our money!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/721294
Report Post »Rev. WC
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:30pmVoilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
“Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici”. Translated as “By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.”
Report Post »booger71
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:50pmNobama’s god is Social Justice, that is what Rev Wright preaches, that is what all Marxist’s preaches
Report Post »RushGlennSeanFNCFan
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:54pmBHO fears the Creator!
Report Post »klstj
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 7:59pmI didn’t think he could get any less American…I stand corrected. I shouldn’t be shocked, in his world our rights, equality and ability to persue happiness only come from government. He‘s showing his true colors now and they’re not red white and blue!
Report Post »jo
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 8:31pmWhile some people were asking for a birth certificate, they should have been asking for a BAPTISMAL certificate. He is “the seed of his father”.
Report Post »StanH
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 9:34pmAmen!
Report Post »StanH
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 9:37pmEverybody get with it, Barry knows what’s best.
Report Post »REVEL
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 9:47pmHow embarrassing this year has been!! This is ridiculous that he thinks he can get away with this. He lives in his own socialist bubble.
Report Post »AmericanDalek
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 10:00pm“Not surprising from this Socialist Secular president”
Secular? I thought he was a Muslim? Can we please get our conspiracy theories straight?
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 10:20pmDALEK, you are an imbecile. Stick around and you will be philosophically EXTERMINATED!
Report Post »Teacher
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 10:26pmMany students and adults don’t know these founding truths. Here’s a fun way to teach our students the words of this important document. http://www.freedomfacts.org.
Report Post »plunderpower
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 11:03pmLiberals are more interested in their agenda than they are the Hispanics and their belief in God. The primary religion in Mexico is Roman Catholicism. The Pope needs to speak up on the issue of voting for Liberals means voting against God. Hispanics won’t vote against God. Let’s see how long it takes Hispanics to realize this.
Report Post »An Arizonan
Posted on September 18, 2010 at 11:37pmHe is evil incarnate. Shame on Mr. O.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 3:11amsometimes… no more needs to be said
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 3:52amSomeone PLEASE TELL ME what part of “Mainstream Christianity” says God did not give us our unalienable rights???
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 7:48amAnti God pig.
Report Post »aafriend
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 9:18amTo all true American Citizens,
We as American Citizens need to pay attention, Mr Obama is purposely doing things like this. this is away to to keep all of us from focusing on what he and is anti American cronies are doing behind the sceens. this is all a smoke screen. Glenn has put it out there, he and his cronies want division and they are slowly trying to insight violence. think of dictators like that guy in Iran, North Korea and other countries that suppress there people, control the media, shut off e mail, put curfews in place, this is a new sophisticated way of dictation, slow and suddle. we will all wake up one morning and some new presidential order will be in place to control us. violence cannot happen ! we must be true Americans and read between the lines and not get sucked into this game. our best weapon is truth.
Report Post »mjgrin
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:26amObama is a very humble man, he just didn’t want to say his own name in the speech.
Report Post »richard the lion-hearted
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:42amSick, sad, and wicked. How the american people have fallen asleep so much as to even elect this man in the first place still ‘blows my mind’ so to speak. And like Glenn said if we don‘t turn out to vote and stop the ’change‘ that ’Obamanation’ promised, then this country gets what it deserves as a whole. It is a shame for those of us who have kept the fire burning and remained watchful through the years, as responsible citizens and protectors of the ideals of TRUE freedom, the freedom that comes from God and was put into precious documents by our founding fathers who acknowledged His holy order of things.
Report Post »AMERCITIZN
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:47amI knew that that this socialistic/muslim /wannabe had NO guts, how dare he change the wording that were created by our founding fathers. As I told the people I know, you watch, this man wil work to have this country become a socialistic 3rd world (I knowe socialism/communism, becaese my parents were under that regime). It is so sad that so many people were influenced by this false messiah (remember the words in the bible). GOD bless this America and bless ALL the peoples in it.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 11:06amAmericanDalek obama believes in Black Liberation Theology. Check it out on you tube from their own mouths. He is not a Christian as we know it, he is not a muslim. The only ones who continually bring up where he was born is the left, and he is not a patriotic AMERICAN. Bring treason charges in November.
Report Post »Time Rebel
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 11:26amObama just could not bring himself to say the correct words. From the look on his face and his pause, I believe in my heart that he purposely kept himself from saying “endowed by the Creator.” Even the words he spoke prior to the omission speak volumes. His reference to the various peoples (including Mexicans) living in America before it became the USA reminded his Hispanic audience of the conquering of the land by Europeans. As IF this land was the only one conquered in the past by others. Even the peoples living on the continent before the Europeans came warred amongst themselves, including the Mexicans! That’s what they did back in the day. Seek power and conquer! Every nation and tribe lived that way. Our past is what it is. The white Europeans did not have a corner on that practice! Well, back to the omission of the Creator. If Obama really is a believer, why does he seek to omit even a generic reference to the Creator? There is nothing controversial about the word Creator at all!
Report Post »Deb C
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 1:17pmDid you see the way his eyes were ? I think that was the “alien” within trying to take over…
Report Post »RestoreCapitalism
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 3:36pmI agree with you 79USMC83. About that stimulus money, I guess they figured as long as anything or anybody was stimulated, it didn’t matter what it was.
Report Post »denvernfl
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:01pmYour wrong, he hates God the creator. He hates the one who gave us these “inalienable human rights”.
This man is a traitor to our Country, and our fellow countrymen.
Pause the video when he’s suppose to say “Creator”, and you’ll see both times he has the same bitten-lip scowl of disgust.
He‘s the one who’s disgusting.
Report Post »denvernfl
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:13pm“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government
– lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
- Patrick Henry
“If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God,
then we will be a Nation gone under.”
- Ronald Reagan
Report Post »denvernfl
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:13pm“A democracy is always temporary in nature;
it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover
that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates
who promise the most benefits from the public treasury,
with the result that every democracy will finally collapse
due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship”
- Alexander Tytler 1787
Report Post »denvernfl
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:15pm“You need only reflect that one of the best ways
to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days
is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding
fathers used in the great struggle for independence.”
- Charles Austin Beard (1874-1948)
Report Post »denvernfl
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:18pm“When you lack the retort of the informed, often words of ignorance ensue….”
David Hammock 2010
Report Post »danlb0y
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:32pmOH MY!……..Obama does watch Glenn Beck! And, He almost had a “come to Jesus” moment.
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FoundersKeeperUSA
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:46pmI agree.Anybody suprised by this needs to wake up now!! We have a president much like Widrow Wilson who belives that rights dont come from god but from the governmrnt.People who still defend this man are ignoreing the facts.And it is becoming more and more clear that this man hates america and is a RADICAL socialist/marxist blinded by his ideolgy.Everything he stands for is against american values.When we get him out of office we will never make the same mistake again.And know you liberals im not saying that because hes a black man!
Report Post »danlb0y
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:49pmIs it just me or does Obama look like he is having a very tough time uttering the words?
Imagine if you were to superimpose new audio over his speech of him admitting he was engaged in an affair and was resigning from office as of midnight tonight.
Now his eyes and demeanor match the dialog.
Report Post »jwood
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 4:56pmThis is a good reason why if we as a Nation do not get off our lazy rearends and head to the polls in November to end this nightmare, then we deserve what America gets. It is appalling that more people will go to the trouble of voting for some person on American Idol, who does nothing for our Country, but will not go vote to save the greastest Nation on this Planet. SHAME ON US”.
Report Post »danlb0y
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 5:30pmI thought that secular humanism allows you to say “creator”.
Natural law does allow creation.
What about “Mother earth”?
You can even argue creation through proCREATION.
It’s OK Obama…..You can cay “creator”.
Report Post »artman
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 5:45pmThe Founders recognized that religious faith controlled behavior. The Founders, being of Judeo Christian background, recognized man was fallen and without religious faith such liberty would descend into chaos. They knew free men would mistreat their fellow citizens without a moral code that would control most of that behavior. No amount of laws will limit immoral behavior. The U.S. Constitution outlined a governing body that provided the freedom and liberty only a religious citizenry, one that voluntary treated their neighbor as they would like to be treated, could maintain.
For many decades liberalism has attacked the U.S. Constitution and strong religious faith. Are we surprised at where we find ourselves today?
Report Post »dorothea
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 8:35pmVery strange…today the first family went to church….WOW….He knows very well that on Monday the story will hit the press room…..and the answer by Gibbs….the President went to church on Sunday………and with that they expect us to believe that he is a Christian…..ha,ha,ha,……
Report Post »onefortruth
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 8:53pmI think Obama should be tried for treason, he has gone against all that this country stands for and the constitution. He is a very cunning and is trying to destroy our country and break the backs of us that live here!!! He needs to be taken out of office!
Report Post »Ellen01
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 10:35pmPresident Obama is not stupid. I have no doubt he left out the words “By our Creator” on purpose to “poke at” the Christian right. These traitors just keep digging their hole deeper and deeper. I have, and will continue to pray for them and those that continue to support him.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 11:01pmthis explains the error
http://www.theonion.com/video/obamas-home-teleprompter-malfunctions-during-famil,14383/
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on September 19, 2010 at 11:20pmhttp://www.theonion.com/video/obamas-home-teleprompter-malfunctions-during-famil,14383/
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:20amHe was just being modest by not mentioning Himself.
Report Post »Alan
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 3:57amWhen the Government fears the People there is Liberty, When the People fear the Government there is Tyranny.
Report Post »Libertarian Infidel
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 7:00amThe sun probably got in his eyes, blocking the view of his teleprompter…and of course why would anyone actually remember the words in such an insignificant document as the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE! It’s not like the President of the United States should memorize it. You know, I like more and more every day the idea of presidential candidates having to submit a handwritten copy of the Constitution, but I would also include the Bill of Rights and Declaration, as well. In fact, they should recite them without notes or teleprompter.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 1:36pmIf the left can delete the creator then it will be they who will determine your rights. The deletion of the creator is a plan that was launched decades ago and it is exactly what Beck has warned us of???? It is in plain view for all to see now!
Report Post »cobieone
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 4:57pmThis is THE most important point from our founding fathers. The belief that our freedom comes from God, not man, is what makes this nation exceptional and unique. Leaving out that very important fact is the most destructive thing possible for our republic. This president is a disgrace!
Report Post »BATTMAN
Posted on September 20, 2010 at 7:11pmBATTMAN
Perhaps a mere oversight or lapse of memory, but if my memory serves me, Speaker Pelosi mistakenly omitted “ by their Creator” several months ago in one of her speeches. Progressives, stateist or whatever they call themselves these days have difficulty with the idea that our rights come from someone other then them.
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