Richard Dawkins: ‘Jesus Would Have Been an Atheist if He Had Known What We Know Today’
- Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:28pm by
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Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins isn’t a fan of religion — and he’s not afraid to show it.
In a recent interview with the The Guardian’s John Harris, Dawkins said, about faith and religion, “It’s infectious. It’s something that grips the mind in the same way that a conventional virus grips the body.”
But that, of course, is par for the course with Dawkins, who has made a career out of opposing any institution that embraces a higher power. A different comment he made, though, is sure to ruffle some feathers. When discussing Jesus Christ, he said:
“I wrote [an] article called ‘Atheists for Jesus,’ I think it was… Somebody gave me a t-shirt: ‘Atheists for Jesus.’ Well, the point was that Jesus was a great moral teacher and I was suggesting that somebody as intelligent as Jesus would have been an atheist if he had known what we know today.”
Clearly, Dawkins doesn‘t believe that Jesus is God’s son — a central element of Christian theology. But to state that Jesus would have been an atheist, especially to someone who does, indeed, embrace religion, would likely be seen as offensive.
Dawkins, though, has never distinguished himself as someone who worries about hurting peoples’ feelings. And in his defense, if he believes Jesus was merely a man, he at least sees him as “intelligent” and “a great moral teacher.” You can hear the entire interview, including this comment, here.
In another intriguing statement, Dawkins did insinuate that there’s a slight possibility that God exists, but he said he views the likelihood with the same level of scrutiny that he would fairies and werewolves. He told Harris the following:
“In The God Delusion, I made a seven-point scale. One was total conviction that there is a God and seven is total conviction that there isn’t. And I put myself as a six. OK? So, that is kind of agnostic but veering towards atheist. And I would be a six in respect to fairies and pixies and werewolves and things like that.”
Watch these comments (unfortunately, his thoughts about Jesus‘ purported atheism aren’t included here), below:
(H/T: The Raw Story)
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Comments (829)
eramthgin
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:47pmIt just goes to show you that no matter how educated you are you can still be a dumbass. Lets see you think that the son of God would not believe in God. Where is the logic in that? I‘m a trained biologist and just don’t understand why some people in science seem to make it necessary to talk about things that they know nothing about. This PhD moron hasn’t got the slightest idea about the tenets of the scientific method or less he would not speak upon something that he can neither prove nor disprove.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:49pmInsanity know no bounds today .. they walk among us!
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:51pmRON PAUL & ISRAEL. Is he a friend or an enemy?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0B7sSYd3V4
HKS
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:54pmHe’s not the first to spew this kind of crap, but as he draws his last breath of life let’s see what he has to say then. Ironically, then is too late and his fate is sealed. They say misery loves company and he must be one miserable human with a miserable life and nothing to look forward to at the end. He needs a little company like you.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:01pmI actually feel sorry for atheists like Dawkins….
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:02pmWait until He returns Dawkins. He will also be wearing a vestment dipped in blood, and wielding a sword. I suspect you‘ll have some ’splainin’ to do spawn of Lucy.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:03pmI would like to know what do atheists know? Ignorance is only proof of ignorance I don’t care how much you call it logic. Atheist do not deal with reality even according to their own words.
Report Post »Average_Joseph
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:08pmRichard Dawkins, I feel sadness and a great pity for you, but nonetheless, I will still pray for you even though you won’t believe.
Report Post »marvlus
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:09pmSometimes I think it takes more faith to be an atheist than a believer in Christ. Un
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:09pmwow.. ok.
Report Post »Joalex
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:17pmYou are exactly right. Dawkins is a fool and a moron.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:21pmThis guy is not so bright. Jesus would have been an athiest??? I think that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Report Post »rvill0048
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:23pmYes insanity does walk among us. They are called Theists.
kmichaels
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:26pmDawkins hero Charles Darwin was a pure racist. Darwin taught that blacks were a sub-species of humans and he ranked the black sub-species as just slightly above that of gorillas. Darwin went on to say that wiser people on earth would be best suited to breed out undesirable sub-species, such as blacks. Margaret Sanger, founder of planned parenthood, based many of her eugenic beliefs on things that Darwin taught.
Report Post »Gates
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:36pmThe creation itself is evidence of a Creator. The complexity is beyond explanation and to deny God is nothing short of insane. But there are those who always will deny the reality of God and do so without any evidence. It’s almost laughable!
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:38pmOk, Richard…let’s suppose Jesus was an atheist. He would have ceased to be an atheist the moment the dove descended from above and landed on him, and God spoke to say that Jesus was God’s son.
Report Post »Who would Jesus bomb?
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:39pmWho the fart is Richard Dawkins???
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:39pmHe’ll believe one day. By that time, it’ll be too late. He’ll be well done.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:52pmYo motunott:
Report Post »The dumbest…. Lets see… God looks at God in the mirror and says, you are not God. I don’t believe that. I think I’ll be an atheist…… yeah…… I’m free……yea….!!!!
There is not a dumbest enough word to discribe his dumbness.
rangerp
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:53pmis it even possible to say anything more stupid than that?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:53pmCome on-you know very well all that he is saying is he likes Jesus‘s ethics but doesn’t believe that Jesus is God.Standard view of many athiests ,jews, muslims, hindus, budhists and every other non christians under the sun.Christ calls us to be humble-what we believe IS ludicrous from the viewpoint of the natural-unredeeemed man. Our gift of faith is not meant as a sledgehammer to be used on others.materialism befits one who does not know Christ. Christ is supernatural and accessable to those who seek. He does not seek. leave him alone.He cannot know any better.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:57pm@ motonutt
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:21pm
This guy is not so bright. Jesus would have been an athiest??? I think that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
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The serpent swallows its own tail.
Polwatcher
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:57pmDawkins is an antagonitistic dumbass. There are many people that have so much ego and get so full of themselves that they completely reject any thought from anyone else. Their minds are completely blocked of from reality and focused only on what they themselves choose to see. They refuse to listen to anyone because their ego will not allow such nonsense. Dawkins could well be just such a person.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:15pmJesus did know what we know today…read the bible..it’s in there.
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:15pmPlease enlighten us on “what we know now”.
Limited little 3lb brains. Silly us to think we can comprehend all that there is.
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:32pmwell stated!
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:39pmThat’s silly. Educated people who have studied the history of religions know that Jesus never existed as written in the Bible and is in fact simply a retread of several other versions of the same story that preceded it.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:41pmIncidently, I heard some of Glenn‘s blubbering performance on today’s radio program and it’s becoming more obvious every day that he is coming apart at the seams. His delusions are taking him to some very dark places. I do hope he gets the medical attention he deserves, sooner rather than later.
Report Post »rvill0048
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:42pmYou think his comment is dumb? Christianity- The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:06pmWell now Mr. Dawkins all i got to say to you and the people that believe like you do is this,Every knee shall bow and every tounge shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:11pmLet’s just look at this statement from an atheistic perspective. I’ve been an atheist, so I think I can give it a go.
It is still a monumentally stupid and arrogant statement. It basically says, “No one good and/or intelligent would disagree with me when faced with the same data I know”. He idscounts the idea that belief in God could be a non-rational, rather that irrational act, that it could boil down to an act of faith that sets up an a priori scheme of interpreting the universe upon which all data is then assessed. How does he account from all scientists who still maintain a belief in God? He knows nothing about and cares nothing for the psychology of belief, something most “scientific” psychiatrists and anthropologists could tell him. The only kind of data that matters to him is his own field, proof that even among scientists rank prejudice and ignorant bigotry exist.
He’s really rather infantile, and such “arguments” as these are little better than the verbal equivalent of smearing his poo on the walls and calling it art.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:20pm“Educated people who have studied the history of religions know that Jesus never existed as written in the Bible and is in fact simply a retread of several other versions of the same story that preceded it.”
OK Joe, name one. Name one reputable scholar in the field who has published a peer reviewd article stating the Jesus never existed, someone who has studied all the historical evidence like the wrings os Josephus, Tacitus and Papias.
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:25pmEvolution is a joke, I mean really there were fish that started walking over millions of years, then we were monkeys and then we lost our tails, why has there not been any further “evolution” in recordable history ? it just stopped all of a sudden ? and what about carbon dating ? there is no evidence that it is reliable for even 5000-8000 years of dating, also time is not a physical property.
Report Post »If someone does not want to believe in God, then that is their decision, but to swallow that evolution crap is ridiculous
God-Gold-Guns
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:59pmWhere did he get his degree from?
Report Post »You sometimes have to wonder why God lets people spew B.S. like this?
godlovinmom
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:03pmWe as believers can‘t believe you don’t believe in God…It’s called faith, my friend. God has given us more than this vapor of a life and people like me choose to believe it. You on the other hand sound very very dark :(
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:14pmAfter reading the article headline, my mind exploded.
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:16pmAtheists like Dawkins are constantly stroking themselves about how educated and intelligent they are but then they say dumb things like this. They are completely retarded on the idea of spirituality but continually speak about a subject they know nothing about. It seems that atheists speak more about God than anyone else.
Report Post »ireport uderide
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:20pmI liked him better when he hosted, “Let’s Make A Deal”.
He, his colleagues and PBS infomercials act on the same premise.
Door number 1: The world is held up on a foundation of four elephants….wrong.
Door number 2: The human race is descended from apes….tell that to inner city black children….not.
Door number 3: The universe was at one time compacted into the size of a marble….lmaopmp.
Let the heathen keep making up adult fairy tales,
Report Post »I’ll keep praying to the Creator of the universe. At least His version of reality has a happy ending.
Secret Squirrel
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:27pm.
Report Post »I encourage everyone to laugh these a$$ clowns out of town.
I really don’t care what he thinks, but to take him seriously is a waste.
TunaBlue
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:31pmYes, Jesus was a great moral teacher. But He would be considered a lunatic in today’s world. Someone who would/should be wearing a piece of tinfoil over his head to keep the governments secret mind control messages out of your head.
You either accept his words and actions, and understand his intent, or you don’t. It’s not much more difficult than that. For those who chose not to embrace Him, and those who choose to denigrate Him, good luck with the final results.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:38pmYou have to be really stupid to say Jesus would have been atheist considering he is God.
Jesus Christ is…antichrist?
****STOP SMOKING CRACK!!!!****
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:38pm@HKS
“his last breath of life let’s see what he has to say then.”
Because he’s going to suddenly fear his mortality and hope there is someplace to go after this like you?
Report Post »Not likely.
debonair
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:40pmDawkins created the concept of the Flying Spaghetti Monster so that he could dumb down the concept that the creation of the god concept is childish. It is. It is the culmination of the dualist philosophies. Off/on, right/wrong, 1/0 thinkers must believe in a god. You need a prime cause.
Report Post »In the world that I inhabit, the one that has statistics, quantum theory, infinite progressions and regressions, a god isn’t necessary.
The rationale that Descartes used, that it is never in your interest to bet against an almighty, is typical of many. Many think that when you go croakers and the furry faced angelics pronounce the never ending doom on the unbelievers, that they are automatically morally superior. Isn’t that weak minded if you are truly a christian. You can’t wait for somebody to burn unceasingly for being wrong conceptually.
Wow!
So let me inform you, a number of us who find god to be an abhorrent concept, actually pity you who so firmly feel otherwise. Your supreme being allows endless horror here and now. He appears to allow the destruction of much of what made this world wonderful and the imperiling of the rest.
I‘d say he’s a psychopath if he actually cares. A sociopath if he doesn’t.
What sophistry must you use to defend this god and his awful reign? I’m sure you have many and they are all stand before reality as naked pandering to your fears.
Grow up.
mils
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:40pmi do not understand how .2000 years after someone’s death ANYONE could know what that person would believe, think, do? :\ I find it arrogant and a bit on the nutty side..
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:04pm@JOEl234
You are a doofus
Surely someone as manly as you, (after all you have told us several times that you hunt game with a bow), does not need to stoke his own ego by coming on here daily to belittle a decent person like Glenn that does many kind things for many people.
OR DO YOU?
Report Post »BlackAce41
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:15pmBoy is he going to have an awaking when he passes to the other side after death…
Report Post »chazman
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:39pm‘… Jesus would have been an atheist …’ spoken like a true communist.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:44pmThe over-educated are usually morons. This guy proves it. Nothing like unraveling some of God’s mysteries just to prove how stupid you are.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:44pm@nightmare–exactly!!!
Report Post »SerikFox
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 9:04pm@ KMICHAELS That’s actually not true. Darwin was not a racist, and he did not create eugenics. Francis Galton created the theory of eugenics – Darwin’s half cousin.
In defense of Darwin: he was a rather intelligent man. And actually, the words I always refer to in genesis (King James Version) are “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven“ and ”And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so”. Note the terms “bring forth” and “after his kind”. Also, refer to the line “And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good”. Once again “after his kind”. The only thing it actually describes directly as being created directly by God are humans. There were neanderthals and they are so close to people that there is no definitive way to say if we evolved from them or not. To me, I find the concept of evolution very likely, however I think there are a lot of flaws in the specifics of the theories. I don’t think people evolved, but I would say that everything else did. It is also possible that people did evolve, it’s open to interpretation.
As to Richard Dawkins;I’m out of characters. Logic suggests God though; as does h
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 9:16pmEVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST DAWKINS: what a silly title. There has never been any proof of evolution, yet everything we see required some form of design, it didn’t just “evolve” EVEN trees came from SEEDS… The typical questions are: WHO caused the BANG? If we exploded into being, why aren’t we still exploding? why are there so many varieties of us but male and female . How many billions of years do you think it would take to develop the iris if one eye? ALL of these Evolutionist strain on a knat and swallow a jackass. WHY it is so difficult to believe in a FATHER GOD is beyond me. I think it takes a lot more “faith” to NOT believe in Creationism than it does to believe all the evidence that exists. THERE IS nothing than any evolutionist could ever point to that could scientifically prove they are correct. NOW for part II: All these people can do however, is insult OUR GOD, the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE and His Son, JESUS CHRIST. NO Jesus would never be an Atheist…HE (like many of us ) have a personal relationship with GOD. NO human being that has ever lived (beside Jesus) could come up with the GOODNESS and wisdom that is shown in the BIBLE…and I’m really weary of seeing these immature, ungrateful people (who will find out if they live long enough or when they die) how WRONG they were. I would really appreciate the BLAZE not tossing JESUS’S PRECIOUS NAME in these headlines unless it is a quote. OKAY??? BILLY H. ???
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 9:16pm@RVILL0048…………”You think his comment is dumb?
Yes but not as dumb as yours
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 9:21pmPeople that know Jesus and believe in him are ready to die when the time comes and do so with a peace of mind. On the other hand, people who do not except Jesus die in FEAR! It will be a shame that those who die in FEAR could have known PEACE by having FAITH in JESUS!!
Report Post »Formula382
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:11pmHey ‘Dick’, I put your book down after not even a chapter. Glad I didn’t wate my time reading it…
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:28pmCan this be taken any more out of context? He did not say “Jesus would have been an atheist…“ he said ”someone as intelligent as Jesus would have been an atheist…”
“Someone as intelligent as Einstein went to Carnegie Mellon” DOES NOT MEAN “Einstein wen to Carnegie Mellon”. It’s called a simile
Once again Blaze – epic fail.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:37pm@VOTEBUSHIN12
Did you study reading comprehension with JZS?
Report Post »thecrazypastor
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:03pmDawkins is just name-calling and making derogatory comments because it makes him famous, earns him money, and makes him feel intelligent. Unfortunately, he’s simply factually wrong. None of what he says, or anyone else says, changes anything factual. For instance, just because someone mockingly calls Jesus a Jewish zombie… doesn’t change the fact of His existence or resurrection So in the end… I just hope he hasn’t completely closed his mind. He still has time.
Report Post »MARCH4HIM
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:10pmvotenbus ish12
The idea of somone making a comment that “a person as itelligent as Jesus”, has to be refering to that Jesus specificly…
Their is.. “no man”… that is ….“Intellegent as Jesus” we can strive to be like Christ.
Mr. Dawkins Is mocking “The Christ”, our savior,son of God, and is trying to make Jesus mortal
and less than what he is .
and for that reason nobody can exspect him(Mr. Dawkins)
to speak about ,nobody else but “Thee Jesus”
ACTS 4:12 (KJV)
Report Post »Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
VoteBushIn12
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:03am@Therightsofbilly
Yeah, we both studied at Accredited University, where did you study? Kindergarten?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:35amGee Votebushin12, I never heard of Accredited University. Where is that?
Now, are you ready to explain to the class how you did not grasp the actual intent of the statement from the article.
We will give you some time.
You are a living, breathing example of how the left can misconstrue simple phrases such as these.
1. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of…..
2. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed………
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 1:45am@Therightsofbilly
I was alluding to the fact that I attended an accredited university by proposing a generic fictional college named “Accredited University”. Perhaps you missed that. Not important, just realize that I am far smarter than you and you will have taken away the important piece of my statement.
On to your other comments. I did not misconstrue anything. Rather than assuming Dawkins is “soooo dumb he thinks the Biblical Jesus would denounce God”, perhaps you should be a little more introspective and think, “hm, maybe that isn’t what he meant… Maybe he meant the non religious idea of Jesus – an intelligent and educated man with a conscious for the social good – would have been an atheist in today’s society”. Sometimes a claim that seems too absurd to be true seems that way because it actually isn’t true.
And lastly, your phrases…
1. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of…..
This means Congress shall not establish a national religion, nor shall it do anything to either inhibit or promote any religion.
2. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed………
Report Post »I am all for the legalization of firearms, but not because it’s a “Constitutional right”. Rather, I am pro personal ownership of firearms because I believe il-legalization creates a black market. The “right” to bear arms means the people may establish an organized militia of civilians. It does not inherently give each individual a right t
Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:20am@VOTEBUSHIN12
Nice punt.
Report Post »Nice diversionary tactics.
I never assumed Dawkins was dumb, I assumed you were.
What you are saying here is not at all consistent with your assertion in your first post.
Lux
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:43am“O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.”
However… “to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.” 2 Nephi 9:28-29
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:51am“Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins isn’t a fan of religion — and he’s not afraid to show it.”
Well apparently he isn’t afraid to show his ignorance and stupidity either, especially since he shows it so well.
Report Post »SerikFox
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:54am@ Votebushin12 A militia had a much broader defninition at the time the constitution was written then it does now. At the time that was written “well regulated” also had a much different meaning. If you go back and look at the language of the time the amendment does actually refer directly to individual citizens. Also it says “the right of people to keep and bear arms”. And if you still disagree with that, then look at the entire bill of rights, and research its basis. The basis centers around “natural law” or “natural rights”. The Declaration of Independence describes that best, however the concept stems from John Locke. The basis is “all men are created equal”. Consider the wording of the entire bill of rights; only the 10th amendment refers directly to the states having rights. The rest are all in a continuing format regarding the rights of individuals. The full second amendment is “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to keep the security of a free State, the right of people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”. In todays words that would mean “Needing citizens (miltia in context) able and ready (well regulated) to defend their homes, which is necessary for the security of a State in the United States, the right of citizens to own and use firearms shall not be infringed.”
That being said, I am not against mental health checks to be able to own a machine gun, but I am for all types of guns. Explosives need to be regulated.
Report Post »WSGAC
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 7:43amIf all modern dog breeds evolved from wolves then why are there still wolves?
Report Post »Temper
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 7:49amIs Mr. Dawkins on record as saying Mohammed would have been an atheist? Is there no Allah, no heaven, no 72 virgins??? These are the questions he should be asked in the next interview.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 7:53amGlenn’s emotional blubberfest yesterday is further evidence of the deterioration of his mind. He is melting down on us day by day. He sees “EVIL” everywhere and his claims of being a conduit for “GOD” are increasing, which is definitly not a sign of a healthy mind. He went into a sreaming rage after reading Maureen Dowd’s column early in the week, which resulkted in his absence from the radio show for 2 full days because he had no voice left. Now the question is, who will be the first to break ranks with Glenneth and jump off the crazy train? My money is on Stu.
Regarding the Pravda-like stories on The Blaze: they’re not real news reporting at all. They’re opinion pieces at best. Nothing more than propaganda for Glenn’s core group of followers, most of who are Mormons and it shows. It is great to see some intelligent counter point to all the intellectual sewage from a minority of participants. Some of their efforts above are really excellent. It helps remove the stench of superstition and ignorance from the usual suspects who post their drivel here.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:22amPersonally, I’ve never had a problem with science v. religion. The bible is the word of God, obviously, and science is man’s view of the living word of God. If a man were present at the instant God willed creation into being, I can believe it would have looked very much like a “big Bang”.
Report Post »This is where the whole controversy becomes moot, in my opinion. Sort of like my pet ferret watching me put his fancy habitat together. He loves it, and he may even realize I constructed it…but it still is just a ferret’s viewpoint. Just how much can the cute little guy comprehend about it.
Max jones
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:45am4truth2all…….MAN LOOKS IN THE MIRROR,AND SAYS I WILL BE GOD…I WILL ..I WILL….
Report Post »In the end, all he will ever do that lasts……..wait for it…wait for it….IS DIE…How can man EVER be free if he has this sentence imposed upon him? Each of us, willful, mortal men, must actively seek commutation, redemption, salvation. Christ, man’s only true hope, is messiah.
Max jones
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:50amT-SHIRT LOGO
atheists don’t have a
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V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:28amDarwin was a racist, his cousin Francis Galton was a racist, and all those Nazis can burn in hell.
Remember, the scientists came out and said that every ethnic group who isn’t African MIXED WITH NEANDERTHALS.
” …all modern ethnic groups, other than Africans, carry traces of Neanderthal DNA in their genomes, the study says…”
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderthals-humans-mated-interbred-dna-gene/
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:41am@SerikFox
I can agree with that. I think that’s about as close to as consensus as I am I likely to get on this forum.
@Therightsofbilly
Report Post »Really? I think what I said is totally on par with my first post. In fact, I challenge you to find the discrepancy. Don’t just say I contradicted myself, in a good discussion you are expected to make this contradiction evident. Explicate
joe1234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:48am‘OK Joe, name one. Name one reputable scholar in the field who has published a peer reviewd article stating the Jesus never existed”
I see my ignorant little clone couldn’t come up wth an answer for you could he now?
you didn’t really expect one did you? LOL
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:49am“the stench of superstition and ignorance from the usual suspects who post their drivel here.”
first honest thing you’ve said about yourself.
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:05amDawkins’ opinion is based on the assumption that Jesus was a real living human being who was simply delusional and believed that he was the Son of God. If you come at it from that perspective, you can see how someone could suppose that Jesus, being intelligent and moral as he is portrayed in the Bible, might come to believe different things if he lived with us today.
I disagree with this assumption and though you may have very different reasons for not accepting the premise from mine, I suspect you’ll agree with me that the premise is faulty.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 11:17am@JOEl234 (Fake one)
Well done Comrade. Your handlers will be proud.
What’s up Joel? I thought you had a soft spot in your heart for people that do kind things for many?
Report Post »With no “strings” attached?
Rich
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:39pmEverything that Richard Dawkins stated was commentary based on nothing but his own beliefs as a person and nothing substantiated by the scientific method which supposedly he uses as his method of proof of the truth he believes. He should not be taken anymore seriously that any other person who is just giving his opinion. His Doctorate in biological science does not direct one to believe that anything he says has anymore credance that the average person.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:43pmI’m embarrassed for Dawkins, not only because his statement demonstrates complete ignorance about something he has spent his entire life trying to debunk, but also because his thinking process is so perverted. You seriously would have to be kind of psychotic to wrap your mind around his “logic.” At any rate, yes ERAMTHGIN you are right, one would think that God incarnate would believe in Himself.
…..
“For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools…” Romans 1:21-22.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:47pmI dont know Rightsofbilly, joel1234 may be stroking more than his ego on here.
Report Post »SerikFox
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 1:07pm@LTB He definitely is missing a lot in his work, and his statements are more than ignorant, however, with his point of view they would be a logical conclusion. I don’t think he meant any real offense.
Almost any view can be logical. Take the Joker in Batman; without a sense of right and wrong the Joker is the perfect logical response to Batman.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 1:10pmYo Max:
Report Post »Think you need to read my post again… cause you way mis-understood it!
Tinylittletealeaf
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 1:22pmHe doesn’t consider Jesus as the Son of God – he believes he was only an ‘intelligent’ man.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 1:52pmYo Votebushin12:
Report Post »You say… “the non religious idea of Jesus”.
That is like looking in the mirror and saying it’s not you, or having an identical twin that’s not identical, or having a Ford that’s a Chevy. If you change who the person IS, then they are not who they were.
You say… “an intellegant and educated man”. Lets see…. if Jesus the “religious” man was who he claimed to be he is omnipotent and omniscient.
You say… “a man with a conscious for the social good”. There was no evil in him, and he died on the cross to give eternal life in paradise.
What Jesus was He is and will be….and can be no other. So, yes his statement; “is too absurd to be true”. In fact there is not a word that exists that can properly describe the absurdity of the thought.
“ Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”… this guy isn’t even in the arena let alone the starting line.
GingerB
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:01pmThis poor adademic man is completely dilusional. I choose to pray for his soul.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:46pmThis is Glenn’s way of bashing the people who EXPOSED what a fraud Mormonism is earlier this week. Remember when Glenn was MIA for two days while his voice recovered? His voice that he lost because he was screaming at the top of his lungs in anger over Maureen Dowd’s column (and Christopher Hitchens brilliant column) which laid bare the fakery, lies and silly horse manure that Mormonism is? So little Mr. “God speaks through ME!!” Glenn Beck has to march out anything he can find to get his childish attacks in. No wonder GBTV is failing and Beck’s ratings are cratering. LOLOL
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:47pmDon’t care to get much into this, as the topic will disappear in a day or two, but:
@Debonair
“Dawkins created the concept of the Flying Spaghetti Monster so that he could dumb down the concept that the creation of the god concept is childish.”
The Flying Spaghetti Monster was a concept created by a physics TA, Bobby Henderson, in 2005. It was used in a satirical letter to the Kansas State BoE when they decided to allow Intelligent Design as an alternative theory to evolution in science classes. The entire purpose was that there is as much scientific backing for ID as there is for an invisible ball of floating pasta, so his new theory talking about the FSM should get as much time as the other two.
Helps not to mess up simple things like that if you’re trying to make a point.
Also, @Billy
It’s Joei, not Joel, when you’re talking to the fake one. And the real one is Joe, not Joel.
Report Post »desirefirst
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:31pmwell, if you were so smart you would know that it is never expected that one should prove a negative for that is basically logically impossible. otherwise, you must prove to me that the magic unicorn does not exist, and prove that the magic creator teapot on the other side of the sun does not exist, ….
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:13pm@ LOCKED
There is JOE 1234 (The real one) He was here first. Notice the numeral “1”, (Not a letter)
There is also JOEl 234 (The fake one) He was born much later. Notice the lower case “L” instead of the “1”
That is why I call him JOEL, because J O E L spells JOEL.
I also do this to differentiate between the two of them. I would not want to offend the real JOE.
And to best of my knowledge, I have never even addressed the real JOE 1234.
Are we good now?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:20pmOK LOCKED
Touche’
Sorry, looks like I was wrong.
Sometimes it looks like a Lower case “L” on my machine, but in once place it looks like a lower case i.
Don‘t know if it’s a font thing, or what but on my machine it shows up as a lower case “L”
Anyway, I only respond to the fake Joei / Joel whatever.
I bow down to your greatness.
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:26pm“…Jesus would have been an atheist if he had known what we know today.”
BZZZZZT…wrong…but thanks for playing.
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Dear ignorant atheist dawkins – Jesus (God) knew then what you do not even now know. He knew the ending before there was even a beginning. So there.
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:01pmjoei234
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:39pm
That’s silly. Educated people who have studied the history of religions know that Jesus never existed as written in the Bible and is in fact simply a retread of several other versions of the same story that preceded it.————————–If you read enough Roman literature from that era you will find Christ mentioned. He is a historical figure. To say otherwise is uninformed.
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:11pmPontiac—–He won’t be the first. ex. Voltaire
Report Post »Tronix
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 7:38amI see and enjoy the beauty of science through my faith, and I love all the technical details of the work of The Designer….
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 8:34amOne of the tenants of higher “Ivy League” education is to deny the Bible and Jesus; to do so is believed to make one “intelligent, educated and worthy” among peers, leaving FAITH for the masses of the un-educated and poor who by necessity come to God as children. But these atheists will stand at the Great White Thone Judgement and find they were “Nabal” (foolish). Jesus said “I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life”. Jesus is God. Thank you, Heavenly Father, for your WORD and your Promises IN Christ Jesus. We PRAISE YOU.
Report Post »jerimiah41
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 8:58amI can only pray for these people that claim to be Atheists and non believers but then try to pusuade
Report Post »people that Jesus would be something else than who he was and who he is. I truly believe that no
atheist and even this gentleman has never read the scriptures, for if they had they would either be
converted or would not comment at all. I have compassion for all ignorant and illeterate in the words
of our Lord. I only pray that they take the time to look at miracles that have many witnesses to them
and try to really explain them away. I do not judge for all of us some day will stand up to be judged.
I have not found anyone that has had any sound arguments for there positions. May God have mercy
on there souls. Love to all of our brothers and sisters.
proudinfidel54
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 10:57amYeah! And Darwin would have been a monkey too.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 11:11amKNIGHT TEMPLAR, Give a thousand monkeys typwriters and let them type for a thousand years they would end up writing “The Complete Works Of William Shakespear Too, I guess.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 11:32am[SerikFox
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 9:04pm
@ KMICHAELS That’s actually not true. Darwin was not a racist, and he did not create eugenics. Francis Galton created the theory of eugenics – Darwin’s half cousin.]
Let me correct your misinformation and partial facts. Darwin did exactly what I said he did. He claimed that blacks were a subspecies of humans, and he (Charles Darwin himself) stated that blacks were just slightly above the gorilla, on the evolutionary scale. It is true that Charles Darwin did not organize a eugenics organization outright (something I never claimed in the first place) he did supply “scientific” fodder for eugenics minded people such as his half-cousin and Margaret Sanger (founder of planned parenthood) to use in their writings and dirty deeds.
Report Post »Nightjar
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:43pmAtheism is a stark statement of disbelief in God.
Report Post »It has no proof and by definition can have none.
Since it is impossible to disprove a negative,
atheism by definition can offer NO proof, but
merely the flat statement ‘I do not believe in God’.
Ray_Cathode
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 6:24pmEr ERAMTHGIN (NIGHTMARE?), perhaps you don’t realize that everything you claim in your email applies to you in your assertions as much as to Dawkins – since you proved nothing, either. In any event, it is not his logical requirement to prove that God does not exist, but yours to prove He does. And if you knew any science whatsover, you’d know where the burden of proof lies. Better go read some Francis Bacon and learn some Induction.
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:38pmThere is at least one book this man obviously hasn’t read or studied.
Report Post »zheng ye
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:41pmWhere is the logic in thinking that a perfect god would subdivide himself into multiple parts so one part could become a crosbred hybrid in a man’s body, in order to die, that other imperfect creatures’ souls might live in some place called heaven forever.
Report Post »So silly that you demand logic when your faith demands that you suspend all reasoning.
seresmary
Posted on October 30, 2011 at 2:10amNot only is Dawkins who is suppose to be such an elite and smartass he doesn’t even know our Constitution. Unfortunately Mr. Dawkins there is absolutely no where in our Contitution that says
Report Post »“separation of church and state” NO WHERE. The only thing that it does say, is that the State (our Government) can not establish a religion… like the one you have in England, like the one the Pilgrims ran away from. Unfortunately it takes more faith to believe in what Dawkins has to say than it does for me to believe in a God,Creator, Savior. I feel sorry for people like Dawkins and others they absolutely have no hope of salvation or eternity. Mary S. California
MuscleDoctor
Posted on October 30, 2011 at 4:42pmEvolutionary Darwinism is solely based on faith, the faith of no God. Atheism is but a cultish, brainwashed state of mind, rejecting any intelligence that is higher than that of mankind’s. Make no mistake about it, even Dawkins believes in intelligence as a creating force of life on Earth but he assigns such intellectual powers to the Darwinian evolutionary process which is an accidental, purposless and hopelessly inanimate entity. If believing in a supreme intellect called God is a viral disease (according to Dawkins), believing in a completely random, lifeless intelligence driving and directing life’s processes is nothing short of a stage four terminal brain cancer. God is the ultimate scientist who not only observes how things may operate, but is very capable of designing and building useful, magnificent devices that adhere with the laws of physics and support nature’s balances. When objectively compared, scientific facts overwhelmingly point in the direction of a purposeful, living intelligent designer, leaving so called scientific theories and useless speculations to the arrogant and intellectually corrupt academic elite to ponder. A newly released book, Evolution by Intelligent Design by Gabor Lingauer clearly demonstrates how the Darwinian evolutionary theory is practically extinct and scientifically indefensible. God is no longer the matter of blind faith. His existense and supreme intellect is only the matter of acceptance or rejection.
Report Post »preacherskidcr
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:11amMy grandpa was the pastor of one of the top 5 largest Christian churches in America and he is nowhere near as rich as Richard Dawkins would claim.
Report Post »katamb55
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:22pmI don’t believe in Mr. Dawkins.
Report Post »Seabird
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:44pmNow I know what the “Higher Learning Education” buys! GODLESSNESS! :(
Report Post »LibzBane
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:03pmSo true –
If only he actually knew what he thinks he knows.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:03pmThe ridiculer has sought to find wisdom, and there is none; but to the understanding one knowledge is an easy thing. Proverbs 14: 6
Report Post »thecrazypastor
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:12pmIt should be noted that more than one study has shown that people with higher educations are more likely to attend church and believe in God.
And there are millions of PhD’s and scholars and historians and archaeologists and yes scientists, now and in the past, who not only believed in God, but were firm believers in the Bible itself. To become a Bible scholar today takes a great deal of education, and despite the claims of the narrow minded here… a great many highly educated people believe Jesus existed and is who he said he was.
But Dawkins idea, if Jesus knew what we know now… is pretty silly considering there are far more reasons NOW to reject an evolutionary, atheistic world-view, than ever. The evidence has not remained in Darwins corner very well.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:13pm@Thecrazypastor
“It should be noted that more than one study has shown that people with higher educations are more likely to attend church and believe in God.”
Do you mean like the one in this article?
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/11/study-more-educated-tend-to-be-more-religious-by-some-measures/
In that case, it says they’re more likely to be religious (read the Bible, attend a service), but less likely to be fundamentalist/Evangelical (choose “liberal” churches like Lutheran or Episcopal; less likely to believe the Bible is the literal Word of God; less likely to believe only one religion has all the answers.
Report Post »thecrazypastor
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:39pm@LOCKED…
Yep, the article you posted backs up exactly what I was saying. It was one of the two recent studies. Thus, the idea that educated people dismiss God and/or Jesus is again, simply untrue. It’s always has been.
Of course, to be completely accurate, the study said every year of education beyond 7th grade, Americans are “13 percent less likely to say the Bible is the ”actual word of God.“ They are more likely to call the Bible the ”inspired word” of God. Well, see that is exactly what the Bible calls itself. (”All scripture is given by inspiration of God,” -1 Timothy 3:16) So don’t run with that too far. I mean, most evangelical pastors who take the Bible quite literally, would ALSO say they believe the Bible is the “inspired word of God.”
And maybe I missed it, but nowhere in your article or the one I read did they mention anything about being less likely to believe one religion had all the answers. I wouldn’t be surprised though.
I mean, these days people who take the Bible seriously are ridiculed. And since no one likes to be ridiculed, and since the evolutionary worldview is so entrenched in our culture (you’ve been taught it your entire life and I have too) it’s no surprise many educated people like to soften their public stances on what they believe. Just human nature.
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:44pm“I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little BABES
Report Post »Unix
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:44pmAnd all this time I thought athiests used logic and reason to spread their treason?
this boggles the mind, what a bender eh?
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:52pmI agrees as regards the lack of logic that this (and most other) atheists throw about. I don’t see where the “treason” label fits, though — while in the Navy, I knew atheists who were very patriotic Americans.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:06pmThey are treasonous to God’s word, I was not referring to political treason.
Report Post »Rajabear1
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:43pmJust can’t argue with stupid.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:31pmTreason only implies to turncoats, not to those who are enemies from the start. Judas was a traitor. Caiaphas was not.
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:58pm@rajabear1…thank you, I have been saying that about Blazers for months. Finally some of you are waking up.
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:43pm“I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children
Report Post »welloddyfriggindah
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:43pmHe has a LOT more faith than I do!!
Report Post »austinanderson
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:42pmHe is filled with so much hatred. What a ridiculous career he has. Fighting against Christianity. A battle he will never win. However, I’m sure he has stole some souls for satan on his destructive path to hell.
Report Post »John 336
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:31pmRemember, Jesus died for him and others like him as well. It just goes to show the extent of Jesus’ love and sacrifice!
Report Post »Better Dead Than Red
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:24pmhe’s a biologist. try learning facts before you post ignorance.
Report Post »louise
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:42pm“Dawkins doesn‘t believe that Jesus is God’s Son”
God is Truth. Jesus said, I am the Way the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me.
Jesus also said, I and the Father are One.
Jesus also said, If you see Me, you see the Father.
The book of Hebrews, chapter 1 verse 3 tells us that He (Jesus) is the exact representation of the Nature of God.
Mr. Dawkins, Only Truth can begat Truth.
Report Post »Son=Truth
Raven249
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:48pmExcellent point. And if he said such things, then Jesus cannot be by any stretch of the imagination a great moral teacher, unless he really was who he claimed to be. Otherwise, he was a lunatic or a charlatan. Mr. Dawkins, you should really think before you speak. It’ll save you looking like a fool so much.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:41pm@G.E.R. ~~~ No. dawkins is left…
behind
for
all
eternity.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:35pmGrandma, pray for all children.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:40pmSay WHAT? LMAO – this guy just won the biggest retar-do award of the DECADE, heck, in history. I have never seen or read such ignorance in all of my life – what a moron!
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:00pmYou must have missed the story of Herman cain claiming jesus would have been the perfect conservative.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:08am“You must have missed the story of Herman cain claiming jesus would have been the perfect conservative.”
newsflash: jesus wasn’t a hate-filled lying fascist liberal.
Report Post »bglaidlaw
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:40pmSo … if Jesus is as intelligent as implied by Dawkins … how could he possibly be a self-decived prophet who considered Himself to be God. Would that not make Him insane instead?
But that’s ok … I don’t believe in Atheists … to me, they are a 9 whereas faries and werewolves are a 6 — and if we speak pre-flood, maybe a 2.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:17pm“who considered Himself to be God.”
Report Post »YOU mean the son of God. He never claimed to be God.
He did say that he and the Father are one but also that his followers are also one.
John 17: 21…..in order that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union wit you, that they also may be in union with us, in order that the world may beleive that you sent me forth. 22 Also,I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. 23 I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one,……………………..
They were united in agreement one thought, one mind, on the same page so to speak.
gambler63
Posted on October 30, 2011 at 12:08pmIt would seem to me that judging from all the posts that there is a virus running rampent in this country and the world.
Report Post »welloddyfriggindah
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:39pmSo glad I don’t feel the need to respond.
Report Post »netmail
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:44pmThe only thing I could think of is what a lovely time he is going to have on his death bed. And, that it will only get worse after that.
Report Post »welloddyfriggindah
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:20pmYeah, he has a LOT more faith than I do…although I‘m sure he wouldn’t like calling it faith!
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:39pmThe Son of God, an atheist? Dawkins is a lunatic.
Report Post »Wayne
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:12pmAmen.
Report Post »Frodo RinosBane
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:39pmYou are SUCH a man of faith, Richard. Make up your mind – is it going to be science or philosophy? You can’t have it both ways.
Report Post »Ferrarello
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:38pmHey, DICK….“It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt ”. :D
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:37pmNEW TESTAMENT
Gospel
Luke 22:36
And, He (Christ) said unto them:
Report Post »But, now, he that have a purse, let him take it,
And likewise a wallet;
And, he that have none, let him sell his cloak;
And buy a Sword!
Locked
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:37pmDawkins would seem a lot smarter if he talked and wrote less.
He‘s the atheists’ version of a loaded megachurch pastor; says a load of BS to his believers in order to rake in the fame and money for himself. Sad, really.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:37pmWhat a dweeb! God an atheist. That is so funny.
Report Post »Richard give it up, you are a has been and nobody gives a Rats Patooty what you think.
Cesium
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:58pmyea, has been making money successfully publishing from the 70s to 2011. What do yo mean by “has been?”
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:37pmMaybe the most ridiculous statement I have ever read. So many of these “intellectuals” are such fools, it’s ironic.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:36pmIn the last words of a man getting ready to die….“Oh God”…….he should remember that for posterity..
Report Post »IronSights
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:36pm“It’s infectious. It’s something that grips the mind in the same way that a conventional virus grips the body.”
The same can be said for stupidity.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:43pm…atheism and liberalism as well.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:27pmI’m sure he meant progressivism “It’s infectious. It’s something that grips the mind in the same way that a conventional virus grips the body.”
Report Post »bbr48
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:03pmLove these comments. Well said
Report Post »((GB)) FAN
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:34pmEvolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins isn’t a fan of religion — and he’s not afraid to show it.
Report Post »Then what you have to say means nothing!
Dustyluv
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:34pmWow Richie…That makes perfect sense. In BiZaRrO wOrLd. What an absolute idiot!
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:33pmAND we care why?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:40pmBecause you’re told to care!
His comment makes no logical sense, you’d think that a scientist would be better at logic than this. If Jesus existed (taking his view) then he would have been the son of God (which Jesus was not wont to deny), which means that if he didn’t believe in religion he would have disbelieved in himself. This is so metaphysically sloppy that it’s laughable that Dawkins was even able to mouth it.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:51pmMaybe he’s also involved with the global warming crap. Fits an idiot like this.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:37pmthere’s 1234 with the racist, atheist, fairytale macro.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 9:45am“there’s 1234 with the racist, atheist, fairytale macro.”
posting in the wrong thread again..I keep tellin you drugs are bad for you….
Report Post »Marine25
Posted on October 30, 2011 at 10:46amGhost of Jefferson says if Jesus existed then he had to be the son of god. Atheists acknowledge (and appreciate) that a human being called Jesus lived and preached very liberal philosophies about 2000 years ago. Atheists also believe that he, like all men, died. Atheists do not believe he rose from the dead. His zealot friends, absorbed in his leftist love everybody/easier for a camel to pass theeye of a needle philosophy, claimed he rose from the dead. Of course that did add a bit of sparkle to an otherwise pretty passive story that they were trying to sell.
Report Post »Look, Jesus of Nazereth was a heckuva philosopher, every bit as good as Ghandi and Marx (who both based their own philosophies on elements of the teachings of Jesus), but he was human and therefore mortal therefore dead. Certainly one can accept his human existence and not his immortality. 6 out of the 7 billion on this planet see Jesus of Nazereth that way.
By the way, that is how the atheist Jefferson saw Jesus. But of course you, having read all his work already knew that.
G.E.R
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:32pmDawkins is right
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:38pmYour comment is very cogent and persuasive. Thank you…
Report Post »Ferrarello
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:40pm*******.
Report Post »webpreacher
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:42pmDawkins is right ? He makes the statement that Jesus, who is God, “IF” “he knew what we know today (which is what by the way?) would be an an theist”, so God wouldn’t believe in Himself ,That is the extent of the intelligence (or lack thereof) of the atheist mind ? God don’t believe in God.. OK then,
WOW, and there are those who agree with Dawkins on this matter, really?
Report Post »Unix
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:43pmLOL, here’s another one that went off the reservation, my oh my, ignorance is bliss, as they say!
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:36pmConsidering all we know to be false in the bible. And that christians can’t get the story right. It would be very easy for Jesus to say “Who writes this crap!!! And people actually believe this stuff”
Report Post »britlynz
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:03pmProfessing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
The fool hath said in his heart that there is no god.
Report Post »MARCH4HIM
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:05amI would think a person ,that dosn’t believe in God
would read the Bible ,and compare it…
To everything thats going on, in the world today.
and would wonder why the “CURRENT EVENTS ” miror ‘THE BIBLE”…
Then I would be very concerned,
why I still dont believe.?
IT IS WRITTEN
(KJV)
II THESSALONIANS 2 : 10-12
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
God …..Will blind some people….from the truth.
Then I would be ..sick to my stomach…. thinking to myself ..
Am I ….one the people that the Bible refers to,
not having ..
EARS TO HEAR…
And
EYES TO SEE…..?
WE DONT HAVE TO BE..
Report Post »ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS, CALL ON HIM. LORD JESUS
AND OUR DESTINY, IS CHANGED
joei234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:02amUnfortunately, religious people are drowning in their delusions and rejecting reason, sanity and reality. Dawkins statement may be intended to shock them awake and get them thinking, which is never a bad thing. I used to be a believer in the Christian narrative, but after many decades and a lot of research, I’ve seen through it. It’s great to be living a happy, decent life free of superstition and the illogical nature of all the old myths of a way of thinking that no longer applies in this modern age. It also makes people like Glenn Beck appear even more insane and unbalanced than ever.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:45am“Unfortunately, religious people are drowning in their delusions and rejecting reason, sanity and reality. ”
yeah those adherants of the sad religion of atheism. they actually believe that racist fairy tale known as evolution? its hard to understand such ignorance isn’t my little clone-troll wacko?
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:38pmThere’s 1234 with the racist atheist fairytale macro
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:57pmG.E.R—–Amazing. Both comments.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 9:44am“There’s 1234 with the racist atheist fairytale macro:”
truth hurts doesn’t it LOSER??? BWAHAHAHHAHAAHAHH
Report Post »far2right
Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:24am@Joe1234 – ” It’s great to be living a happy, decent life free of superstition and the illogical nature of all the old myths of a way of thinking that no longer applies in this modern age.”
OK then let’s break down your belief. You, like Dawkins and Hawkings, believe in an infinite number of multverses spawned by random quantum chance from a “vacuum” of dark matter/energy (which CERN is now saying most likely does not exist). This belief allows for the “existence” of an infinite number of Joe1234′s who have the same exact genetic make up of you and share the same breathtakingly nonsensical existentialism. And you have the audacity to talk down to religious people when your faith is far more blind and leaping than ours? This only proves that you are profoundly stupid or dishonest.
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