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Rick Perry Says He‘s ’Fine’ With Gay Marriage in NY

Rick Perry Says Hes Fine With Gay Marriage in NY

Texas Gov. and rumored Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry said Friday he's "fine" with New York's passage of gay marriage because of his support for states' rights.

Rumored Republican presidential candidate and Texas Gov. Rick Perry said he’s “fine” with New York’s recent passage of gay marriage — because he supports states’ rights.

Speaking at an Aspen, Colo. forum Friday, Perry called himself an “unapologetic social conservative” who personally opposes gay marriage, but is also a firm believer in the 10th Amendment, the Associated Press reported.

“Our friends in New York six weeks ago passed a statute that said marriage can be between two people of the same sex. And you know what? That’s New York, that’s their business, and that’s fine with me,” Perry said. “That is their call. If you believe in the 10th Amendment, stay out of their business.”

CBN News’ The Brody Report observed some of the potential problems that could arise from Perry’s comments with his evangelical base:

I’m sure the majority of conservative evangelicals are big believers in the 10th amendment but the fundamental question seems to be this: When does a federal constitutional amendment trump the 10th amendment? What issue qualifies? Isn’t marriage one of those issues? Perry is basically saying anything goes for each state. His take seems to be if you don’t like gay marriage, don’t move to New York.

In Aspen, the forum moderator pressed Perry on his presidential ambitions, but Perry would only say he’s “going through a thoughtful process.”

“I’m asking the right questions,” he said. “I’m basically asking people, `Do you think there’s room in this presidential election for a full-throated, unapologetic fiscal conservative? And if you do think there’s room, are you going to help?’”

However, the night was not without a slip. At one point, the crowd laughed when Perry started answering a question: “As the president … As the governor of the state of Texas ….”

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  • One Man One Voice
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:13am

    As a life long New York State resident, I am adamantly against the recent passage of the gay marriage bill. I am adamantly against the policies of the lunatic liberals in our state government. They‘ve ruined this state on so many levels that it’s hard to comprehend the damage they have caused over the past several decades. We have had zero population growth for over a decade. Most of the manufacturing jobs that were the backbone of our economy have moved out of the state. Those jobs left the state because of two reasons: One – Thanks to our liberal politicians we New Yorkers pay the most taxes of any citizens of any state in the country. Two – The Unions. I don’t need to elaborate on how the, “connected-at-the-hip” collusion between the ultra corrupt liberal politicians and the communist infiltrated unions are the root cause of our plight.

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    • Blazing
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:17am

      So what do you do? How do you get people more to your liking elected? Or do you move?

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    • Wayner
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:32am

      Well he’s off my list now.

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    • joan k
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:34am

      I, too, live in the failed nanny state of NY. But I am going to move out ASAP next spring once I get my house back on the market again. What I want to know is does Perry also agree that state legislators can pass a law without the people voting on it?? Apparently the turncoat Repubs in NY State got a large infusion of money from special interests that went into their coffers just so they would vote it in! Would he still agree knowing that?

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    • Millhouse2therescue
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:42am

      You move, that’s the whole thing. We don’t need the “diet” on these topics those we need the real deal. Ron Paul 2012.

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    • 1proudAmerican
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:48am

      I‘m moving too and can’t wait! I want to live in a red state for the first time in my life and actually have my vote count for something.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:08am

      Glad to hear from a reasonable New Yorker usually all we are allowed to hear are the reprobates.I agree with Rick Perry in this –it is for each State to determine if it will accept the fraud of same sex marriage–or NOT. DOMA is the Law and contrary to the fraud in the White House , DOMA ought remain LAW. And IMO if any State has a State Government that chooses to divorce Reason and Logic to embrace Sodomy the people of said State ought have immediate recourse in removing that government from power. and Restoring the Law and Reason– or failing that they ought vote with their feet as some have done who once lived in States where the government was not led by men /women who were Religious or Moral… who passed Immoral and Unjust Laws accommodating the Reprobate.

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    • Tim Law
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:32am

      I know just how you feel. I live in a even worse state California. I thank God that my children are grown and moved out of this land of Sodom. Gov. Brown passed a law that our grade school children have to learn about gay sexuality.Starting this next school year. Our grade school aged children should not be learning about any kind of sexuality, let alone abnormal behavior.

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    • freeus
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:52am

      I am for state’s right as well. However, I don’t support run-away Govs. and State Legislatures with social agendas that represent the interests of one group or city (NYC). I use to live in upstate New York and the politicians didn’t care about what we thought about any issue. Gov. Perry should care about what happens to the covenant of marriage.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:02pm

      joan k
      Good luck selling your house. Obama’s policies make selling a home unlikely. There are so may foreclosures for sale, you have to give a house away. I’ve had one on the market for 3 years now.

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    • DNoyce
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:04pm

      Vote with your feet! Move to a state that shares your viewpoints.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:40pm

      @Wayner,think a minute,Perry is personally against gay marriage,so is Ron Paul but both believe it’s a states right issue,not big government to make the decisions for each state,I personally am strongly against gay marriage,but on the same token i want the constution to be upheld,,

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:48pm

      Joe Isuzu, Bilderberg Rick and my favorite the tx corridor Cowboy

      Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system. If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.
      http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2007/08/north-american-union-bilderberg-gov-rick-perry/

      http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/the-destroyers.htm

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:57pm

      Wayner… are you a Big Government Progressive?

      One Man One Voice… then move to a Red State, we’ll wlecome you with open arms!

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    • enderwiggen
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:28pm

      I live in Texas, and have a small business (10 employees). Part of our business is inspecting cars from out of state to get registered. We’ve been inspecting two or three cars a week from the rust belt and California. Most people are just looking for a job. Its sad that they have to leave their homes, but eventually the burden will get high enough on the ones who remain that change will occur.

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    • blowback
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Rick Perry is an ex-cheerleader from Texas who claims to be conservative. Sound familiar? It should. The last fake conservative from Texas was also an ex-cheerleader. Al Gore’s former campaign chairman is a fraud and fake, just like nation builder Bush.

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    • greenchili
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:01pm

      @One Man One Voice

      Glenn Beck was smart to move from NY to Texas…….

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    • sbish
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:25pm

      For those of you who consider yourselves Tea Partiers who also happen to be sociall conservative, you can’t have your cake and eat it too, or at least you can’t do that and continue to be relevant and taken seriously. Either you are for states’ rights, the 10th Amendment, limited govt or you’re not. You cannot choose to have social issues be enacted and enforced federally, and on the other hand have fiscal policy, entitlements, regulation, home finance and other un-Constitutional duties presently being enforced or performed by the federal govt. Perry is right on the nose when it comes to his views of NY’s gay marriage laws.

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:35am

      Just move to Texas. There’s no state income tax, be grateful for that. But I have to warn you, there are a lot of Mexicans in Texas. If you move here, you’ll be working with Mexicans, you’ll be sitting next to Mexicans in restaurants, you’ll be standing in line at the grocery store behind Mexicans, you’ll be behind a car filled with Mexicans at a red light. And when the light turns green the Mexicans might move as fast as you’d like. Half the restaurants are Mexican. Your cab driver might be Mexican.

      All I‘m saying is that you shouldn’t move to Texas if you don’t like Mexicans. About 40% of the state is Mexican and that percentage is increasing each year. There are Mexican mayors, Mexican cops, Mexican legislators, Mexican business owners. There are Mexicans all over the place.

      If you’re from New York, or any part of the country, you‘d better not come to Texas unless you’re some kind of liberal nutcase. Because Texas is crawling with Mexicans.

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:31am

      He’s right. I don’t see any reason to make this a federal issue. Let the states do what they think is right and let the people vote with their feet.

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  • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:12am

    Apparently, he does have a problem with the Constitution’s Full Faith and Credit Clause, if Texas under Perry would still refuse to recognize marriages performed in New York as valid if they are gay marriages.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:27am

      “Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.”

      DOMA was passed to deal with the problem of the Full faith and credit clause and gay marriage. Apparently YOU are the one with a problem with the Constitution.

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:34am

      That is because we the people of Texas had this issue put on the ballot a few years back and we the people voted it down,So you see we the people still have some power.

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    • conservativeKen1971
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:34am

      Nevada allows some prostitution, therefore should all the other states allow those prostitutes to practice within their states since Nevada allows it? Using your logic they should. If NY allows gay marriage, that doesn’t mean other states has to honor it.

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    • maddiej
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:57am

      As Texas is also a state with full rights to enact and enforce their own laws, they do not have to recognize NY law. If you are happy with one state, live there. But if you move to another state, you must live according to the laws of that particular state. Choice! Isn’t it wonderful that we have that in these United States of America? That means Texans cannot dictate what New Yorkans do, and vice versa.

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    • maddiej
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:06am

      Texas is also a state with full rights to enact and enforce their own laws. If you like New York, or some other state, then live there. But New York should not be able to dictate to the people in Texas. In the United States, we have something called Choice! Texas cannot dictate to New York, and vice versa! The problem with many of us, is wanting to control what others do and believe. No, one state’s laws do not have to be upheld by another state. They are separate states!

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:07pm

      Idaho allows me to legally carry a concealed weapon. Oregon and California do not. By your reasoning, any person with a CC issued by any state should have it honored and deemed legal by all. Likewise, the freedom to ride my motorcycle without a helmet if I wanted to ( I don’t, but it’s the principle), and smoke in bars if they don’t serve food.

      At what point do states abandon their rights to determine what behavior they will honor or allow?

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:15pm

      @Iles Fordian:
      What I have a problem with is the Congress using its power under the Constitution to disenfranchise one group of people in favour of another. I have a problem with DOMA, whose days are numbered. So, the question becomes, once DOMA joins the Alien and Sedition Acts on the ashheap of history, will Gov. Perry’s Texas still see fit to refuse to recognize gay marriages performed in other states?

      @Quicker:
      This is what Mobocracy looks like.

      @Conservative Ken 1971:
      If a lawyer gets a license to practice law in the state of Idaho, does that qualify him to practice law in the state of Alabama? No? Well, if lawyers licensed in one state can’t necessarily practice in another, then I see no reason to get flustered over prostitutes who can’t do it either. But then, I think you were disingenuous in proposing this as a false counterexample. A law which states you can DO something (practice law) in one place does not mean you can necessarily DO that thing in another place. The Full Faith and Credit Clause says that when you ARE something (husband or wife) in one place, then you ARE that same thing in another place. And you know it.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:32pm

      @MaddieJ: (in stereo)
      No one‘s claiming the FFaCC allows New Yorkers to tell Texans what they can and can’t DO. The FFaCC prevents Texas from telling New Yorkers living in Texas what they can and can’t BE. If Texans don’t want to allow queers to get married there, for the moment, let’s allow that to be fine, then they don’t have to. But when a homosexual married couple travels to Houston, they are still married (modulo the Authoritarian DOMA) regardless of Texas law forbidding homosexuals the act of marrying. They already were married, therefore they still are married, regardless of where in the United States of America they travel.

      Choose all you want… for yourself. It’s not necessary, proper, or legal for you to get to choose whether a married couple is married in 21st century Texas any more than they did in 1880′s North Carolina with laws regarding blacks marrying whites.

      @Former Lib:
      See above response to Conservative Ken 1971. Smoking, carrying a weapon in public, riding without a helmet. These are things you DO, not things you ARE. It’s a red herring to claim the FFaCC affects state laws in any way in this regard. The FFaCC is about what you ARE. If you ARE male in one state, you ARE male in any other state. If you ARE the mother of a child in one state, you ARE the mother of that child in any other state. If you ARE another man’s husband in one state, you ARE that man’s husband in any other state.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:33pm

      There is, however, a glowing precedent of telling states what behaviour their laws can and cannot permit or forbid in their own territories. Texas, and many other regressive states, had, some psychotic politicians even still think they do have, laws on the books to criminalize homosexual conduct, a la UCMJ under DADT. Laws against sodomy in America are anti-Libertarian, and the SCOTUS struck them all down. Try reenacting them, or enforcing the ones you refused to strike from your books, and see how hard your state gets spanked in federal court.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:08pm

      “What I have a problem with is the Congress using its power under the Constitution to disenfranchise one group of people in favour of another.”

      You also have a problem with the dictionary, because to be disenfranchised one must first belong to the franchise. You can’t complain about your right to marry being taken away because you never had it. Gay marriage did not exist. It is your side that is arguing that it should be ADDED. It is dishonest to use arguments that presume something you previously had is being taken from you without due process.

      But dishonesty is the name of the game when it comes to liberal arguments. Changing terms midstream, question begging propositions and ad hominem arguments are standard fare. It’s always an intellectual “three card monte”.

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    • greenchili
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:17pm

      @Lesbian Packing HPs

      You are peeing into the wind as long as gays hold events like Folsom Street Fair. The gays could have held the annual events in a convention center……but no, they gotta hold in public on public streets. No wonder God has brought misery to this nation. AND I have no sympathy for your cause.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:54am

      @Isle Fordian:
      To claim that gays have never been able to get married is the height of historic ignorance.

      @Green Chili:
      Sure hope you never find yourself in a situation where you need assistance from an LGBT person. They might not have any sympathy for your cause either.

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  • supertas
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:07am

    I don’t like it, or support it, but he’s right. It‘s a state’s issue. Other than national defense and a few other things, it’s up to the people of individual states to decide what kind of state they want to live in. That’s how the framers wanted it. Good for Perry. I‘m looking for someone to beat O’stupid senseless with this big government crap, and I think he will.

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    • Matlor
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:03pm

      @Supertas

      I think M. Bachman said the same thing a couple of weeks ago on FN Sunday.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:09pm

      Perry doubled spending in Texas, doubled Texas’s debt, Texas’s debt percapita is higher than California. He is not your smaller government guy.

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  • Ronko
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:05am

    Perry‘s right it’s a 10th amendment issue if they want marriage to be view in a certain way that‘s there right and if you don’t like it then move out of that state, Glenn did in New York although his reasons for moving are different and not related to Same Sex Marriage, his reason for moving is probably due to the ridiculous amount of high taxes that New York has.

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:04am

    I am happy that he is pro-state’s rights, that is all fine and dandy, and he should be commended for that. Rick Perry’s mistake is that he fails to recognize an even greater ideal – that government should not be in people’s bedrooms at all, on any level, and legal marriage is the embodiment of the government involving itself in what is fundamentally a religious institution. For the very same reasons that the federal government is not supposed to be involved in personal relationships between people, so is the state also not supposed to be. Nor any country, parish, or city. Our constitution allows ANYONE to MARRY ANYONE for ANY reason, and without a license. Doubt me? To Wit: Common Law Marriage. In fact, almost all of the common law statutes are the state government meddling in what is a purely private human affair, not subject to such meddling by our constitution.

    If Rick Perry truly understood the constitution, he would have eradicated legal marriage contracts in Texas.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:01am

    Well, I’m a Texan, Consverative – Christian – “Bible Thumper” if you will — and I can tell you that his statement does not bother us one bit…because that’s our view. As much as we don’t want it, etc. – if you believe in the Constitution, etc., then you believe it’s up to the state to decide and whatever they vote in is how it is. This is simple – a no brainer. If they voted it in here, after our fighting it – so be it. We know he is a Christian & are more interested in his policies, etc. Now there are those Christians who vote Democratic and like Big Govn’t, entitlements etc. & those are the ones that will vote against him for that reason. He’s a very popular Governor and as far as I know, would make a great patriotic President & get us back on track & fiscal responsibiltiy, etc. He really hates Big Govn’t and all for independence, states rights, etc……more Conservative type than GWB. They are different – came out against his spending years ago. You’ll hear more – more than you want – in the near future after he announces – in a few weeks at the prayer rally in Houston. Yes, he’s running…& probably be the front runner, in my opinion.

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:36am

      you got a point but here in cali we passed a measure twice to outlaw same sex marriage and we were shot down by the 9th district court . the last shotdown of the measure was by a gay judge . the will of the people mean nothing in this sorry azz country ,they did the same when we passed no funds for illegal aliens . this country will continue to collapse as long as there are judges who make law instead of inforcing laws that are on the books god help us .The 9th district court has been overturned more then any court in the country and i say they are responsible for californias demise.

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    • freeus
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:35am

      Look at Prop 8 in California. The people voted no on homosexual marriage. Now gay activist judges are making the call. Rule my the minority.

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  • papa2thdoc
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:00am

    The states formed the federal government and gave it SPECIFIED powers. Now the supreem court (federal government) decides if the congress or president (federal government) is abiding by it? The states MUST take back their power.

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  • Comm Marine
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:58am

    Rick would make a fine President of the United States. Rick the 45th…yeah, I like it

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  • conservativeKen1971
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:56am

    I agree with Rick Perry, states has and should have individual rights. However, I believe that it should be up to the People and not their elected officials. If the majority of the People wants something that is not unconstitutional then so be it. No, I do not support same sex marriage, but who am I to force people to obey God when God Himself doesn’t force people to obey Him? It’s their God given right to be disobedient. I don’t have to practice it or support it.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:02am

      It IS up to the people – we elect our officials – we have to vet them in advance.

      I like Perry even more now!

      If we don’t like our state, we can change it or move!!

      We are FREE !!!

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:16am

      @ Tom ferrari; You have got the right of that .But you also got to start electing judges to ,and that makes them more in tune with the voters .Alot of these states have the judges apointed.This needs to change.That way when you have a judge overturn the will of the people then the people can vote the rascels out.

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    • highcarry
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:47am

      exactly, and that is why, starting with the 2012 election, i will never vote for a member of congress again for president. from here on out, my vote will only go to conservative governors, even if i have to write them in. when you vote for a senator or rep., all you’re voting for is someone whose sole purpose is to spend our money. does anybody think that in these debt talks, the main concern is to how to make it better for us? her’s how i think it sounds. barry to boener : ” c’mon john, you want to be re-elected as much as i do.” i know not all governors have really worked out. jimmy comes to mind. but does anybody think reagan would have been the same president if he was a senator instead of a governor? it’s like students teaching class instead of a teacher. governors have to do everything a president has to do, just on a smaller scale. but thats a lot better than a ” community organizer.” so, unless your a governor who is running a surplus ( many are ) then don’t ask for my vote.

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    • CamoJan
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:48am

      Very well said and Amen!

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:18pm

      “I believe that it should be up to the People and not their elected officials. If the majority of the People wants something that is not unconstitutional then so be it.”

      Um…what? That is called “direct democracy”, something our founding fathers feared and mistrusted because it always becomes tyranny. It is the reason they created the Republic which we have. It is also the reason states originally elected Senators by state legislature, and not popular vote. Congress represents the People, while the Senate was supposed to represent each state equally (thus two senators per state). We did away with that one important element in maintaining checks and balances when we passed the 17th amendment and ensured that politics would be a career and not a duty or sacrifice.

      What happens when the majority decides what is constitutional? All one need do is persuade 51 percent of the population that anything is constitutional and they get their way. This is why we don’t have a democracy, and thank God we don’t. We are approaching 50% of people in the country who pay no federal income tax, yet vote. Still want to allow the popular vote? .

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    • Conservative New Yorker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:54pm

      I’m liking Rick Perry more and more. Imagine that- a politician who believes and follows the Constitution.

      @Formerlib- excellent post!!

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  • boca_chica
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:55am

    Good statement- should have been the same for abortion-the feds like power and the more power they take the better they like it. They know with states haveing some control over their own destiny, a socialist State can’t be confirmed. If a state makes a dumb decision(NY millionaire tax), people have the choice to leave and go to another state. The progressives don’t like that, and that is why both dems and repugs(rinos)(feds) make more laws that control more things the states should have the exclusive rights to define their own destiny.

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  • rockstone
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:55am

    Perry’s preparing for war. He wants, and needs, it clearly stated that White House ambitions or not, he is going to ensure that Texans will decide how Texas is run. Not DC. Not NY. Anyone paying attention knows that this goes way beyond gay marriage. We are in a fight with the EPA over whether or not we will be forced to retool our ENTIRE economy in order to comply to federal standards with regards to enery production. We have our own standards thank you very much. The greens from California, New York etc, who have wound up in DC, are not going to tell us how to refine oil and run our economy. Not to mention our border.Not to mention our gun laws..etc…etc.
    Period!
    Again, Perry knows what he is doing and this goes way, way , way beyond gay marriage. And on that note, he said it was NY’s call to have gay marriage if they choose to. That translates into it‘s Texas’ call to NOT have gay marriage because we choose not to.

    Bravo Gov Perry.

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    • BMF
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:08am

      Very well said and right on target!!!!

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:54am

    It may be hard (heh) to get the gay vote for Perry though. Obama has really catered to them more than any other president. He “understands” them the best.

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    • Jennine
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:40am

      I don’t know– I think a lot of gay people would vote for a candidate who stood up and said, “I am what I am, just like you, but I’m willing to let you be.” The past two Presidents have overstepped states’ rights and taken liberties at a federal level on this matter. Even if Gov. Perry is a conservative, if they can see that his fundamental belief is that states be left to govern themselves, they may be able to believe that he’ll let them marry if their state allows. On the other hand, if a state’s choice of laws begin to drive out revenue-producing citizens and stablizing influences, those states may end up reconsidering their decisions, and that will affect us nationally.

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:00am

      JENNIE
      You bring up valid points.
      I’m not gay. I don’t want to be gay. I don’t want them married nor do I want them to be in the military.
      However, Perry has approached the matter in a diplomatic way that I can appreciate.
      I bring up Herman Cain because he may be bold, patriotic and so forth, but his is also alientating any potential base he might have. Contrast with Obama who tries to be any and everything at all times audience specific and he is seen as a wavering flake and FRAUD.

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    • rockstone
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:27pm

      @ JENINE

      “On the other hand, if a state’s choice of laws begin to drive out revenue-producing citizens and stablizing influences, those states may end up reconsidering their decisions, and that will affect us nationally.”

      So…. if that means there’s good money to be had by ..ummmmm…. I don’t know… legalizing kiddy porn would you “reconsider decisions” on that also?
      I know it appears to be a stretch in comparison but the concept and question are simple, yes or no, do you base all of your decisions on the money or do you find convienent exceptions?

      Mind you, I am just trying to understand your post. If you would be so kind to explain. It appears you are basing social more decisions on whether or not there’s cash involved.

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  • Ave-Crux-Spes-Unica
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:53am

    Rick Perry does support states’ rights. His response reflects the beauty of our framers’ intent. If NY wants to change the law, then they can change their law after the experiment fails. Those who don’t like the law and hate living in one of the highest taxed regions of the republic may choose to relocate to a state that better suits their needs/beliefs. I am personally against gay marriage, and I believe Perry is to; however, his is truly supporting states’ rights.

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  • tifosa
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:53am

    There’s almost nothing finer than the thought that Perry may be the Teapublicon (teaparty, republican, conservative) nominee :P WE THE PEOPLE would ask “Do we want to be the U.S. of Texas?” Texas, the state with the lowest graduation rate, the highest % of min. wage jobs… I can see the ads now: “voucherise Medicare”, “nuke Social Security.” RUN, RICK, RUN!

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:01am

      More new jobs than any other state.
      Lower unemployment.
      NO INCOME TAXES.
      Bear in mind, with the flood of illegals, creating jobs that do not require a higher education IS THE NEED. In addition to those jobs, the numbers would obviously reflect the illegals not attending college.

      You should try some breadth in your facts, not just cherry-picking the ones you THINK will prove something – we’re not even sure what you are trying to prove, other than you are ill-informed, closed-minded, prejudiced, and a hater, who has nothing better to do than sit in your mommy’s basement in your underwear and troll on theblaze all day.

      Personally, I pity your pathetic life…
      Bless your heart.

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:07am

      If you take the fact that a lot of this happens in democrat ran districts.Like Sheila Jackson Lee`s .Quit painting with a broad brush Troll.

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    • awizard
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:18am

      @tifosa; I like that title “Teapublicon” thanks I think I’ll use it!.. You might consider TX is a far different place than NY … ‘Most places in TX you can live nicely on the “Federal minimum wage” of what $7.50 an hour?.. Where I am there are No jobs {period} That drop out rate you should check, I don’t believe it is correct.

      Medicare and SS?.. Something has to be done with both of them … Let’s talk about it. Got any Good ideas?..

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:31am

      I’m good with being a Teapublican too.
      Thank you.

      Afterall, I don’t want to be associated with killing unborn babies.

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    • jumbles
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:37am

      That “mommies basement” quote is very unoriginal and tiresome (as is the rest of your rant).Who on this site does not “cherry pick” their facts and quotes? Who are the “WER’E not even sure” crowd,did you just take a quick poll? “Ill informed,closed minded.prejudiced and a hater”.Have you read your own post?.The pot calls the kettle black.

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:44am

      @ JUMBLES,If the shoe fits.

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:55am

      “Mommies basement”

      Come on people. the libt@rds have upgraded to remote locations now that they have gone wireless.

      Get with the times.

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    • mattN
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Tom, You’re 100 percent correct. I rarely post on theblaze. However, I do read it daily and Tifosa’s argument is invalid, ill informed, and more or less preposterous. It literally sounds like a regurgitation of a chris Matthews rant. I love the libs who attempt to solidify their argument stating that Texas has the lowest graduation rate (Georgia does), and the most minimum wage jobs. I guess they do not buy in to the whole “I’d rather have some money than no money at all.” To them, that is simply not the reality they live in and it’s unfortunate. They don’t like that more or less 40 percent of all job creation has been in texas in the last 2 years. Let‘s look at California’s numbers or New Yorks because if we did, this argument would be over right then and there. I genuinely feel bad for people like this. As long as we have people with Tifosa’s perspective, ideology, and writhed reality in the white house America will never be restored. I’m a ron paul advocate. That being said, whoever receives the republican ticket I will be helping. 2012 is a pivot point that could have massive ramifications or could be a monumental change for the better. Only time will tell. And Tifosa, turn off MSNBC and read, read, read.

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    • usnavyflyer
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:42am

      Minimum wage jobs, which teach the young to work and give them a good ethic to build on. Minimum wage, where you start, get promoted, and move up in the world. So we give people somewhere to start in Texas, I’ll take that. Also keeps them from needing government support.

      As far as states rights goes, I am all for it. Kind of what we were founded on, and a lot of people died for back in the Civil War. And he is standing up for God by putting out his personal belief. In the end states rights will protect the conservative states from being run over by the liberals the northeast and the west elect.

      And if this happened in Texas he would fight it. He is a Texan, not a New Yorker. If you all want to destroy yourselves, have at it, leave us in the South alone. If you don’t like it move and join us. Nothing more entertaining listening to those from less successful parts of the country that are overun by liberals complaining about Texas and its leadership. Jealous much?

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  • Aiser
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:49am

    Rick perry is certainly 100% right on the 10th Amendment. How ever TX and NY are 100% wrong on marriage. Marriage should be absolutely NO states business and should have the marriage tax code and marriage licenses repealed immediately. Marriage should be an institution that belongs to the houses of faith only, Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, Hindu temples ect.

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:21am

      Gay marrage was put on the ballot a few years back.Was voted on ,over 65 to 75% voted aginst it.The will of the people still stands.Oh by the way we also elect our judges.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:33am

      What about divorce law? Should a man be able to desert his wife and children without the state interfering?

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    • A_SOWER
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:47am

      I agree, marriage is an institution created by God, so man has no business trying to change or modify it. That being said, the issue of ‘deadbeat dads’ should address anyone abandoning their children and if people really want the state to get involved, the law could simply be to enforce whatever is prescribed according to that person’s faith….That should be voted on by the people…

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    • Aiser
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:21pm

      Good responses and questions by quickers and isles. The truth is that if those gays keep putting up gay marriage to a popular vote, then they will keep crying out discrimination. Then progressive activist judges will over rule the voters decision, much like how it happen in the state of Oklahoma when the people voted for no sharia law during the 2010 midterm elections. As for divorce laws, marriage should be a private contract between a man and a women and a house of faith, that recognized both as married. They should choose to renounce this contract in the same house of faith as a divorce without the need for a divorce law. With divorce laws in place, it only makes divorced much more bitter and unscrupulous divorce lawyers/attorneys profit from this misery. Get the state out of marriage and those same bastard lawyers/attorneys will then end up unemployed\ which is a good thing.

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:32pm

      To the one that said that divorce laws could enforce whatever was prescribed by someone’s faith…ARE YOU KIDDING? Would that mean with sharia Islamic law – the state would stone an “unfaithful” wife? If your line of reasoning was followed you give legitimacy and precedent to allowing sharia law to be practiced in this country. The homosexual issue is a distraction, an abomination in the sight of Almighty God to be sure, but then so is all sin. The issue to keep your eyes on is ISLAM. I wont qualify it as “radical” as former muslims say that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim if they are really following the quran.

      Reza Safa (author of “Inside Islam”) says that only NOMINAL Muslims are peace loving. NORMAL Muslims that follow the Quran can’t be. Islam has blood on every page of its history and teaching. Islam carries the spirit of violence.

      I don’t know about in Texas but here in southern california in the town of 120,000 people there is a mosque and they are pushing for sharia law here.

      Often Fox contributor Brigitte Gabriel – born in Lebanon says that Lebanon was a Christian Country, a democracy and that those that hated its tolerance of diverse points of view used the tolerance of intolerance to advance a radical Islamic agenda – they used the freedoms that Lebanese society and government afforded them to overthrow it and Islam rules now

      MOSQUES ARE TROJAN HORSES in the guise of religion fomenting an overthrow of the Contstitution and t

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:00pm

      Aiser, If I understand your reply, you would NOT have the state interfere at all in divorces to protect the wife should her husband leave her. Given that most women give up a carreer, or at least carreer advamcement, to raise a family women are naturally more financially vulnerable than are men to the impact of divorce. She will often not have been in the job force for sometime. Is she not due some compensation for the dissolution of the partnership she and her husband entered into?

      You can see where this goes. Marriage may be a private contract, but the State still has the obligation to enforce private contracts. Tort Law. So how the State would do this while not being in the marriage business still has to be worked out.

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    • Aiser
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:53pm

      @Isle naturally divorces would plummet if the state got out of marriage all together. It is important to keep in mind that most divorces are because of finance and the tax codes placed on marriage. How ever when a divorce does occur and children are involved it would be natural for the biological parent whom is away from one parent to give some monetary compensation by voluntary means instead of govt forcing him/her to do it. Only a ruthless individual would refuse to voluntarily offer aid while away as most would not want to place their children into financial hard ships. Also with the state out of marriage it would creative a further incentive for couples to stick together and somehow work relationships out without a divorce attorney foaming at his mouth and the state on their backs. Now even if one parent refuses to offer aid, then you have to take into consideration that the parent in custody of the child can find another spouse or is perhaps him/herself already self sufficient enough.

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  • quicker
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:49am

    Yes he does beleive in states rights.So it is up to the voters in Ny. lets see if they got there head out their butts,Then letts see if the courts will not over ride the voters will.On the other hand we here in Texas had this subject on the vallot a few years back and I think thatit as 65% aginst gay marrage.I also beleive that our judges are elected not appointed.That might be why it still stands.Goes to say if you`re elected then you have to answer to the people.Not like Ca.

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:00am

      Small keyboard big fingers.Ment I think it was 65% aginst gay marrage

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  • flagbearer
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:46am

    He’s absolutely right, whether or not you agree with individual state legislation. You don’t have to move there. You have the option of living elsewhere. Now, if NY attempts to force its beliefs on my state, that becomes another issue. I don’t know much about Perry, but I‘ve heard he’s a globalist, Bilderberger. Does anyone know? I worry that the GOP is going to sneak in another RINO under just another ruse. If he’s a conservative Christian, can he also be a globalist?

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    • SPOT_OF_TEA
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:54am

      Why cant we ever sneak in a conservative?Why do conservatives have to be so honest about their beliefs before the election?

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:44am

    Rick is showing he’s not anti-gay.
    Just not in his state since it’s full of steers.

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  • Mateytwo Barreett
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:42am

    GREAT! The governor of Texas is OK with gay marriage – - in NY. I want to know where he stands on gay divorce. A much more substantive issue. I mean really, lets get some IRS regs out there! Whose responsibler for debt, commun ity property rights. With a little creativity, one could turn this into enough of a problem, it would go where it always should have been- – - -NOT THERE!

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    • awizard
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:03am

      No, Gov. Perry supports “States Rights” … If NY’ers want to allow gay “Marriage”, that’s their problem … And the IRS doesn’t seem to have a problem collecting from eh, “Failed Civil Unions” so why would they have a problem with “gay divorce”?..

      He’s making a point most of the country has missed … States are supposed to shape their environment, if you don’t like NY … move to somewhere else (which is what many people have already done by the way). That‘s the way it’s supposed to work.

      Now if you brought that subject to TX, I don’t think it would fly very well …

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    • APROUDVETERAN
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:31am

      While all these weirdo “Gay” folks are celebrating in NYS and their bleeding heart governor was only too happy to sign into law a law that only a very small percentage of NYers wanted….I wish that they would take all these “gay” people and put them on a boat with all the child molestors and rapists and send them out to an island somewhere and let them all fend for themselves and live amongst themselves. My gf is a shrink and has spent more time counseling kids who were adopted by these deviates who were raised in this “loving” environment and when upon reaching their teen years were admonished by their “parents” how wrong the kid was to find the opposite sex attractive…..sad, sick world we live in and some states like ny make it even sicker…..

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  • mikester8888
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:41am

    I agree totally. I cant think of another state that deserves this law more than New York. Its our new big toe. It has been transformed into the capital of the world for homosexuality. Start spreading the news. Now if Chicago will join in we can all say to you, good luck!

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  • jhaydeng
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:40am

    He’s fine with it because he is in Texas! Maybe he can explain to my kids what the definition of marriage is NOW! Sorry folks, but he is another typical politician! If it were in Texas I would go out on a limb and say his statement would change!

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:57am

      We had this put on the ballet a few years ago and we voted aginst it ,If you have a problom with your state Reps get them out.It is up to you voters in Ny to make this change.Don`t blame a differant states Gov.if you don`t have the will to change to rulings in your state.

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:03am

      Oh also we elect our judges not have apointed.

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    • hopetochange2012
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:18am

      True…..but I say put it up for a vote to the PEOPLE, not the politicians. It seems the minute a person is elected he/she forgets what they stood for the day before the election.

      Perry is finished in my mind. I’m all for States Rights, but there is a duty to stand up for God’s laws that trumps what we crazy people think.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:33am

      I agree !00%. This is not the voice of a Christian. Perry is the one chosen by the Bilderbergs. Anyone who has the Bilderberg connection with Hilary, “Bilk,” and Soros will not be working in our best interest. Check out this link.
      http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-approved-perry-set-to-become-presidential-frontrunner/

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:40am

    Way to lure the gay vote away from Obama Perry.

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  • burr99
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:40am

    I think it is important for people to understand that the framers always thought that the states would have more power than the federal government. This is very clear in the original argument. The libs will try anything to make Perry look bad.

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  • dissentnow
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:38am

    Rick Perry is 100% correct. He is taking the constitutional side of this issue. I just wonder how the bible thumpers are going to feel about his comments.

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    • Secessionista
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:07am

      I am a bible thumper and I disagree with Rick Perry. My reasons are posted in the comment thread for this article.

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  • LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:37am

    RICK PERRY SUPPORTS STATES RIGHTS

    there if fixed the headline for you

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:51am

      Good job. Your headline actually says something.

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    • crazyrightwingmom
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:17am

      That’s a great headline. When are Conservatives going to get smart with putting out our message??

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    • Hephzibah
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:16am

      I knew that was a propaganda headline the minute I saw it, and anyone who says he’s “off their list” now probably never had him on their list in the first place. I support State’s Rights, too, and applaud Rick Perry for his response to this subject. Smart and logical. If the turkeys want to live in that particular barnyard, it ought to be their right.

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