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Rick Perry to O’Reilly: Obama ‘Absolutely’ is a Socialist

Appearing on the O’Reilly Factor Friday evening, Texas governor and GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry defended his ad blasting President Obama’s now-infamous “lazy” comment. He also, unequivocally, called the president a socialist.

The Blaze previously reported that Perry’s ad blasted Obama, calling his comments “pathetic” while blaming his “socialist policies” for “bankrupting America.”

To refresh, the ad is featured below.

O‘Reilly played a clip of Obama’s comment in full context and asked Perry if he still thought the president was really characterizing the whole of America as “lazy.” In the clip, Obama says the country has been “a little bit lazy,“ but follows with words on ”attracting new business to America.”

Perry stood by his assertion, however, and responded by saying the president travels the country “making excuses for America.”

When asked if he thinks Obama is a socialist, Perry didn’t hesitate for a moment before answering, “absolutely” he is a socialist.

Watch below:

The following is a clip of Obama’s comment:

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  • zoro51
    Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:20am

    been saying all along EVITA OBAMA TAX N SPEECH IS A DAM SOCIALIST remove him now SAVE the usa P{ERIOD and perry was foretold NONE OTHER shall be president… YOU watch!!!

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  • CatherineAnn
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:52pm

    I have to give Perry credit…He had the guts to say it. Too many dance around the subject. I can’t quite figure out why Perry is not doing better. I have not heard anything from him that I disagree with. I like his idea of a part time Congress that I heard from him today. Maybe that would keep them from passing all the stupid bills they do and make them work real jobs when they go home because their pay would be cut in half also.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:04am

      @thepatriotdave: Have to agree with you…to call BO a “socialist” is no where close enough to describing him! In fact, I believe the entire conservative right should STOP using the term and instead use “Marxist”, “Communist”…“Socialist” has been overused and is not “recognized” as the true enemy/destroyer/evil that it is! Marxist/Communist are STRONGER words and should be used!

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    • Founding Father2
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:06am

      You want guts. Romney has probably the most guts. With RomneyCare around his neck he hasn’t dropped it or flip-flopped on it just because it would help him politically, ( http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/romney_cavuto_healthcare.html ) like Gingrich has done though 7 months ago he agreed with it.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:29am

      @Founding Father2: Romney has probably the most guts. With RomneyCare around his neck he hasn’t dropped it or flip-flopped on it just because it would help him politically, (http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/romney_cavuto_healthcare.html ) like Gingrich has done though 7 months ago he agreed with it.”
      _________________________
      Agree…it is more than a little worrisome! We must OVERTURN Obamacare…The entire Marxist takeover depends upon the healthcare as its’ supporting FOUNDATION! It will turn out to be a MUCH larger part of our total GDP when “they” are through with it.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:31am

      @Founding Father2 Romney does not have principles to stand on. Romney passed RomenyCare because it helped him politically in the very liberal State of Massachusetts. Good for him. He has the Progressives tied around his Neck. Not good for me. He believes that by being moderate (like McCain) he will win the general Election. I disagree. Newt? He’s done also. Let him surge for a couple of weeks. He deserves it. He’s a great debater. Once the people see what a hypocrite and manipulative person he was politically, they’ll doubt the good use of his “wisdom”. Hey, Newt is a smart guy, but we can‘t start dismissing people’s political records for political expedience. I’m TEA and mad as heck at our media driven Political system. The American people better wake up before they get a really rude awakening by some unwanted intruders in the not to distant future.

      “But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government.” – Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, March 4, 1837

      “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free … it expects what never was and never will be.” – Thomas Jefferson

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:31am

      No, he’s an outright commie…..

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 2:20am

      I agree with your comments , however how would he do debating Obama or Hillary? That is where the problems lie. Maybe we need to groom our candidates like the progressives have groomed theirs. Fight fire with fire or something like that. Maybe take the best ideas of all of our candidates and roll them into one? If for no other reason than TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY. We can not afford to loose again. I have a friend that believes we are all being scammed. He asked me these questions today. “Do you ever wonder if all the politicians are in it together regardless of party? Is there anyone that we can trust or all they all in it for greed and power. Did we actually win this past congressional election or were we played into a sick game that would take away the rights of Americas people? Do they all want global government? Was it a ploy to eliminate the republicans and the democrats and have only a progressive party?” I hope that he is wrong and I pray that it would be impossible to accomplish anything such as that. Have to admit, I have thought about it the rest of the day.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 7:00am

      AZDEBI…”Agree…it is more than a little worrisome! We must OVERTURN Obamacare…The entire Marxist takeover depends upon the healthcare as its’ supporting FOUNDATION! It will turn out to be a MUCH larger part of our total GDP when “they” are through with it.”
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      Debbie…… please remember
      With regards to nationalized health, you have to remember that one of the biggest dangers is how the door will be left open for the gov. to control what you will eat, and the activities you will be able to engage in.
      Oh, you may be able to still rock climb, sky-dive, and partake in the types of activities in which have elements of danger. Problem is, though, that when you pay the operator of that bungee-jumping business for your ticket, you’ll be paying an additional “healthcare risk” tax. Oh, it may not be called a “healthcare risk” tax, but that‘s exactly what it’ll be.

      Studies will either be shown, or made to show, that certain activities have higher risk levels than others. If you do those certain activities, you could pay a higher rate for ‘your’ healthcare than, say, someone who hikes. Think the ol’ gov. won’t know when you sign up for that Colorado River rafting trip? Think again! You‘ll simply just produce an ID card to sign up at the ’guides’ place of business, or you won’t going rafting. He’ll, of course, be adding a tax to cover the healthcare costs for your

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 9:11am

      He comes off very well in one on one interviews. It’s a shame he has been so inept in the debates. I‘m afraid he’s sunk though, the press will portray him as a “stupid Southerner” like did they Bush.

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    • doglady
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:37pm

      I like him too and hope he can climb back up in the polls. I think his debating skills took him down as well as his giving illegals in-state tuition. I think he is very capable. Like he said we have a good debater (via the teleprompter) in office and look at the mess he has created.

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    • webwhitehouse.com
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 3:26pm

      He isn‘t doing better because he isn’t as elloquent as some of the other Candidates.

      When you listed to him or watch him, it’s like watching Bush 2.0

      Personaly, I think he would be great but I think there are still more skeletons to jump out of his closet. If he becomes a front runner, expect quite a bit of character assasination on Perry. Everything from that “little girl shots” to being a booze hound.

      Just my opinion

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    • jmc610
      Posted on November 20, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Pamela Kay,

      I’m afraid your friend is right… If you haven‘t already become a member of David Horowitz’s Freedom Center, please do. He wrote two incredible pamphlets, (among many others,) called ‘Barack Obama’s Rules For Revolution‘ and ’From Shadow Party to Shadow Government’. It puts together alot of the things Glenn told us when he was on FOX but in a chronological order that will prove this was all planned. It makes you sick.

      http://www.horowitzfreedomcenter.org/
      http://frontpagemag.com/store/

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 11:39am

      obama is not a socialist, communist or a marxist. he not even a liberal. you guys are funny.

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  • lee48md
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:42pm

    It takes one to know one.

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    • Founding Father2
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:45pm

      You sound like a Ron Paul supporter. Have you seen Bap Lip Reading do their rendition of Ron Paul… yeah it fits him: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/paul_bad_lip.html

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:49pm

      I have nothing against Perry except his policies on Illegals, but I must disagree with his claim that Obama is a flat-out Socialist. Obama is not!
      Obama is a flat-out Marxist trying to cloak his Communist ways within Socialist garb.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:58pm

      @thepatriotdave That’s the same thing I was thinking. The Democrat Party is really a Socialist Party acting as a front for the Communist Party which actually intends to fundamentally transform us into a Marxist Nation. Know what I mean?

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    • Bakko Bomma
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:59pm

      Ron Paul sounds like he’s speaking gibberish to the rest of the people in America who are illiterate uniformed and have an IQ of 75 too. Why don‘t you Neocons put up or shut up and drive a truckload of fertilizer in to a mosque or don’t you have the balls?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:17am

      @Founding Father2 Thanks for the link. That was a pretty funny clip. You sound like a Romney supporter. These videos here fit him perfectly:

      The Real Mitt Romney – More like a Liberal Democrat than a Republican
      youtube.com/watch?v=ySBQ2GHLHBs

      Who Are You Mitt?
      youtube.com/watch?v=oJgLXC66ttk

      Is Romney Consistent?
      youtube.com/watch?v=B7RaYbToq7Q

      Did Romney support TARP?
      youtube.com/watch?v=A2EqhZND1_I

      I bet you won‘t watch this whole video here if you’re a Romney supporter:
      youtube.com/watch?v=KBXe3Kvg-qU

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 2:13am

      Colt, Thank you for that last one it will be an eye opener for many. You sir are a true Patriot. I just hope all Romney supporters have the guts to watch the whole thing and research the content.

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  • ThankBabyJesus
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:29pm

    As the whole world is gasping in shock. “Socialism” never!

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:13pm

    I personally have not had time to be lazy. Taxes, taxes, taxes to pay so OTHERS can live and be lazy!

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  • spreadcommonsensenot pc
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:06pm

    Whos calling the kettle black here? Perry is a progressive.

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  • michael79
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:01pm

    How the hell would a socialist know what was happening in the business world? If he had his nose up union a$$ he really couldn’t see that much. He has no business qualifications to even make an assessment.

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:54pm

    The Larry vs. Curly arguments happen on the left side of the in congress, Moe is in the White House!

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  • Censored_by_the_Illuminati
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:38pm

    Obama was sure quick to praise Boeing about their new contract with the UAE. After all the grief he’s caused them about their new SC plant, they should build every one of these new aircraft in SC.

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  • Rightallalong
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:37pm

    BillO is a Progressive acting like a conservative. He does not support the constitution and belives it can be suspended because or natural disasters – that is usually when the constitution is even more important!

    Watch this…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isd0FlGb_LY and to double down on stupidity watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICoiFBWGX4M&feature=related

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:54pm

      Harvard training, you know!

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:46pm

      I watched it. i believe you are right

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:50am

      Just for the communist slug JZS.

      Republican governance in a Constitutionally Representative society (in the case of the United States) with a fixed table of core Laws. The right to private property. The right to pursue prosperity/“right” liberty without the influence or impetus of force from any government agency, mandate, or regulation. That includes the right to personal intellectual property.

      Socialism governance whether on a Constitution or by decree is a collective pseudo liberty based on the common good (or bad) of citizens where even property is subject to the will of the party.

      In socialism, “social justice” takes the place of “equal justice” and there is no individualism that doesn’t belong to the State, including intellectual property.

      This is even without stretching into the social community fabric where individual exceptionalism in a Republic is protected, but in socialism belongs to the State.

      Socialism by definition is Crony Capitalism Economics in a communal civilization, where the State picks and chooses the winners and the losers, all the way down to personal housing. THIS Republic is not based on the economy of Capitalism, it is based on Free Market economics, but by definition falls into a “Capitalist CIVILIZATION”.

      Care to continue debating this? What I’ve given are rudimentary basics, but expresses the basic differences. The differences are dramatic.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:09am

      Thomas Jefferson says?

      “The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.

      No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.”

      “The god who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

      “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

      “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

      We can do this til the cows come home, by the obviousness of founding intent is sure. Right Liberty, over the blindfolded stupidity of the various forms of democracy, which is……..socialism.

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:12am

      Sure 10th Amendment, let’s talk. I’d like to agree with some basics about this country as it already stands and has since the beginning. I posted this before, but who owns that street that goes by your house? You do, your community does, we all do. That’s public property that we all own and have the right to use. That’s socialism – collectively owned property used for the benefit of all. Who owns the highways that deliver goods to your neighborhood stores, the grocery stores, the hardware stores and the other stores you walk into everyday? We all do, collectively. Who pays the fire department and the police department? We all do. That’s socialism. America could sell all those roads to a company, let them maintain it, and profit from that ownership by charging you for the right to drive on those roads. The police, fire departments, public schools could all be privately owned and operated for profit. That’s capitalism. And while we’re at it, let’s sell libraries to Exxon/Mobil and the Koch Brothers and let them decide what books go in and how much to charge you for walking in the door.

      So you tell me where we draw the line on socialism, and let’s start from there.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:35am

      @JZS

      Private schools can make a profit, while at the same time spending less per student, and creating smarter children, all at the same time.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:40am

      @jzs That is not Socialism. Our roads are NOT OWNED by the Community, we are not a Democracy. Our roads are maintained by our Public servants. They have been elected to perform certain duties. At no point has the Citizenry appointed Representatives at the expense of their private Rights and personal Liberties. Roads are by nature an object of common usage, which benefits the public, and are necessary to exercise the private and ancient Right to Travel. You are under the misconstrued notion that just about anything the Government funds or manages is some form of socialism. Socialism is a system of social organization, or Government. In order for OUR roads to be considered part of Socialism, the form of Governance by which they are maintained and the types of Officials and Authorities by whom they are managed by must be under a Socialist form of Government. We as a State and Society function under the long standing laws and rules of a Constitutional Republic. Our Government is restrained and limited, and may only act upon those Powers delegated to it. All other Powers and Rights are reserved to the People. Socialism maintains that the Government holds all Powers and may decides what is best for the public. And thus, implements its own agenda at the expense of individual Liberty and private Rights.

      “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” – John Adams (1814)

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 2:00am

      @jzs We’re already a Nation of low educated workers. Heck, we’re also a Nation of low educated unemployed spoiled apathetic atheist brats. Thanks to the federal Government run schools. Every year the Government lowers the standards of education to better accommodate low income, minority and foreign groups. Public education costs $10,000-30,000 per student a year; Private $5,000-10,000; home school $500-1000. Success rate, Public 45-48%; Private 80%; home school 85%. Government controlled schools produce incompetent corporate wh*res for the elites. The reason we have a restrictive and limited federal Constitution with certain enumerated Powers delegated to the Government is so that the bureaucrats and other public officials don’t screw up everything else!

      You say of all those things you listed, that it is socialism, but that is not true. You have yet to provide an instance where our Government has prohibited an alternative means, especially by private Citizens, leading to the same end. Private Schools, UPS, Blackwater, Private lots, etc. Socialism implies the communal ownership of all these activities. Heck, even Socialists can’t achieve true Socialism, as the community NEVER ends up owning anything because the STATE always takes over, and controls all activities under the guise of public policy and public safety. Which is why in the history of the World all Nations seeking some form of Socialism have by the most part always implemented a Communist Government.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 2:32am

      C‘mon guy’s, JZS is right in one way. We have become a type of Socialistic country, by our own fault of electing Progressive candidates into office, and that is why it seems to people like JCS that we are in Socialism. We need to look at reality. The drivers license can be argued that we need it, for what? My understanding is under a free society that adheres to individual liberty, we should have the right to travel between the states using the carriage of the day. Drivers licenses are Unconstitutional, but it has been indoctrinated in us that it is necessary. Our public schools are run by the Government. Our children are not being taught the right history. We were not taught the right history, I am 54. Read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers!!!!Wake up and vote for an honest candidate that believes in the Constitution.That is what we need right now before it is too late for our children and their children. Liberty comes with a price. I am willing to give myself for my family, are you???? I am willing to vote for noone else, are you??? Principles my fellow Americans, Constitutional Principles.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 3:38am

      @WestCoastPatriot I agree. Some of the things JZS mentions, though they’re not right out socialism, are to some extent managed as socialist policies by Big Government Progressives in both Parties. This has in essence corrupted our Government and distorted the original intent and meaning of our founding fathers. Our society has been conditioned to depend on the Government for all their needs and to rely on the Government for their safety and happiness. We must restore America. When inventions, discoveries and entrepreneurship was encouraged, praised and admired by the American people. When being able to sustain yourself off the fruit of your land was admonished and expected. When the Government and the people understood individual freedom and personal responsibility. When private property and personal privacy was cherished and secured. When in America, Americans actually made things for America and Americans. When local produce, goods and services were kept local and made, by hand, on private land, through hard work and sold in America for Americans. When dependency on foreign goods or other services and needs were unheard of. When individuals were actually accountable for their own actions and responsible for their own health and safety. When we honored Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and punished those who violated the Rights of others. When exact Judgement without reservation or respect to persons was made and evil was rid out of the Land.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 4:04am

      @WestCoastPatriot I truly believe that one of the agendas most sought by the Marxists has been to take over the education of our children. These Globalists and Marxists have desperately sought to absolutely destroy from the mind of our young children all sense of religion, morality and true knowledge. This has in effect created a society ignorant of it’s own history and purpose. The public schools must absolutely be returned to the States, Counties and local communities wherein the Parents have the best chance to best govern the education and training of their own children.

      You‘re absolutely right about the Driver’s License. We do have in our Common Law a Right to Travel and to freely use the public roads without molestation, hindrance or permission from the State, with whatever adequate and private means of travel we may own, so as long as we don’t hinder the travel of others and our purpose is not commercial; that is, not to run a business on public roads for profit or gain, for which merchant activities the State may regulate and publicly administer.

      To reclaim our federal Union and reinstate the Constitutional Offices and duties of our Republic we must revive the Christian Faith and Spirit of Liberty that guided the hearts and minds of our forefathers and restore the principles and values that paved the way for the founding of our free Nation.

      We must rally together for the Republic to preserve and guard our heritage and institutions.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 4:37am

      Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government. Madison

      On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed. Jefferson

      I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That “all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.” To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition. Jefferson

      In matters of Power, let no more be heard of confidence in men, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution. Jefferson

      To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. Jefferson

      The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the Republican model of government, are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finally staked, on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people. Washington

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 4:46am

      Bravo Colt, You are a true Patriot. Everyone read his posts and sink them into your memory. Let Freedom Ring in America again. This just may be the last chance we have people. Let’s get it right this time.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 9:02am

      No JZS that is not socialism. In any non anarchical society some governance is necessary to ensure the equal rights of others. It isn’t even the force of the Law that makes that happen, but the Constitution that which limits harm between it’s citizens. That’s the breadth of purpose of the “Federal” government. It also happens to be the difference between Liberty and RIGHT Liberty.

      Under the foundational rules of the electoral college to provide a barrier against local and special interests, every voice in every State is ensured a say, both in rural and large population centers. The 17th Amendment was communism way of perverting the Republic into a pseudo (Banana) Republic known as a democracy (Mobocracy). It has allowed the majority (generally large population centers) to destroy the equal rights of rural America, and thereby pervert right liberty. How does that happen? Senators no longer represent their own States, and vote in capricious ways (to whoever holds the purse strings) to favor sectarian interests, rather then the people in general. That causes a perversion of local governance where people can be purchased through entitlements, thereby increasing the politicians power to rule in tyranny over the peoples will.

      The roads, which each person has rights to, already belong to the local people. The police and firefighters are hired hands, but it’s certainly not socialism. What transforms it to socialism is government regulations (cronyism).

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 9:17am

      (con’t.) People in local communities in order to preserve their right liberty sacrifice “some” of their rights to ensure that the equal rights of others are protected. That’s called Law Justice, not Social Justice that is the leveling of all things shared in common, including economy. Capitalism is the Republics Civilization, but the Free Market is the Economy. While some societal things are shared, each person has a right (city councils), or voice in which laws should be applied, and how the city, rural community, and State should enforce the laws. But it is the will of the people. The 17th Amendment perverted intent away from local self determination of right liberty, and became a National directive of central determination, ie the tyranny of the majority known as a democracy. Clearly in violation of the Constitution and intent of the Framers. Cronyism has striped the defining liberty generating mechanism, Free Market economics, and given over to Socialism, where Crony Capitalism is becoming the economy through regulatory caprice of special interests.

      Local shared roads, police, firefighters, etc., belong to the local residents, but are not in any way socialism, except thru perversion known as the tyrants will with writing Laws (regulations) to strip the people of their voice.

      You have a long way to go JZS in understanding governance.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:48pm

      @The10thAmendment You’re absolutely correct. May I add this other simple fact. In all those things mentioned that we share in Public, not one is governed by a centralized all knowing Governing system of Authority. Rather, it is rightfully within the Law (not mob rule) governed by each State, County or local town. That is one major difference to consider between those things necessary and in common for the Public (and governed under a Representative Government), and those things taken by force for the benefit of others and governed in a centralized position of absolute Power (Socialism).

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    • n8isgrate
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:12pm

      For all the conservatives who write on here bashing republicans you are going to be the reason we lose the election. Mitt Romney is the only one consistantly staying close to Obama also beating him in the polls we need to win this election you are all being childish for not backing someone who will beat Obama. He is not a progressive he is a conservative he was in a blue state so his policies may of looked bad to you but he did what he could with what he had. If he had texas no doubt in my mind he would be more conservative than Rick Perry. I like just about everyone including some of ron paul but Mitt Romney is consistant and would have the best chance of winning we need to unite behind him or at least stop bashing him and saying you will not vote or you will write in a candadate he is nothing like Mccain who I hated voting for he is much more conservative then him. So everyone just stop slaying the very people who have a good chance of beating Obama. Come 2016 lets all rally against Mitt or who ever wins and put in an even more conservative candadate but doubt we will have too cause I think everyone will end up realizing like I have he is actually quite consevative. We just need to focus on getting rid of the Marxist Obama and also taking the majority in the senate and keeping it in the house.

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 5:19pm

      There is a failure here to recognize that United States has a mixture of capitalistic and socialist practices. I suppose it’s because “socialism” is such a hated term, that you can’t accept that there are any elements of socialism in our country. COLT1860 goes as far as to say, “Our roads are NOT OWNED by the Community…” COLT, then who owns the roads, George Soros? The public library isn’t owned by the public? Then who owns the library? Libraries are paid for by and owned by all of us. It’s communal property. The Fire Department isn’t owned and operated by a community for the community? Fire departments are privately owned and operated for profit in your neighborhood? Sewer lines too?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 6:06pm

      @jzs You fail to realize that these public places are not owned by the community as a whole, or run by mob rule. My city’s library is managed by the County, and the State does not manage it at all. Socialism would make my State a centralized Power that manages all Libraries, public or private. You fail to realize that our roads and other public departments are not there to benefit one segment of society or class of people over another, but that they are necessary and available to all Citizens. You fail to realize that at no point did the State arbitrarily decide that these Governmental functions are in the best interest of the People, or that by the State‘s grace we’ve been afforded its benefits. Socialism implies that the State has inherent in itself all these Powers and that it alone can decide and best manage these activities. You fail to realize that we are a Constitutional Republic and Representative Government, wherein the People retain all Rights and ONLY DELEGATE those Powers that are naturally (not forcefully) deemed necessary to the public good.

      The Community cannot one day, as in a Democracy, decide to take away the Rights of one group or to take away the property of one class of people for the exclusive benefit of another. We have certain enumerated Powers, and Government cannot act outside of them.

      Public Libraries are run locally, not by an absolute central Power. Heck, even my City manages ITS OWN ROADS; the State or County does not.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 6:20pm

      @jzs To say that our Community owns those roads would be to say that they have the Authority, as in a Democracy, to vote on whatever them may deem necessary, irregardless of private rights and private property, and make the will of the majority Law, denying the will of the minority. (It seems that semantics, to some extent, has a play in this argument). We, however, are a Republic and adhere to the Laws of Nature and the Rule of Law. Our communities do not exercise direct sovereign power over the State. We have elected Representatives to govern the State under certain conditions and terms written in a Constitution.

      I’ll give you this much credit though. Our current very liberal Government and progressive Courts have essentially managed all these public places or departments, by the most part, under socialistic policies, desiring to rule them (not govern them) under one centralized Power. This was not the intention of our founding fathers. They sought to govern us least by a distributed source of Power, and further scattered the center of Powers into districts, States, Counties, Cities and townships. Socialism cannot work under such a dispersed system of Power.

      You’re trying to imply that these basic public necessities are socialist. But you forget to realize that Socialism is only a system or form of Governance and not the definition of Government.

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 10:49pm

      CULT1860, I have to be honest with you. The more you say, the less I understand what you’re position is. Here’s an example. You insist that “public places are not owned by the community.” But of course they are and you admit that at other parts of your multiple posts. The point I think you‘re making is that your library isn’t owned and managed by the federal government, so it’s not “socialism.” But it is, it’s socialism on a local level. It’s community property, owned by all, and benefiting everyone in the community. Just because it‘s socialism doesn’t mean it’s “bad.”

      You say also that I “fail to realize that our roads and other public departments are not there to benefit one segment of society or class of people over another, but that they are necessary and available to all Citizens.” That’s exactly right. The roads and other public departments are paid for by all of us, owned by all of us, and benefit all of us equally. And the people we elect manage those agencies, as well as many other for the benefit of everyone. And if they don’t, we elect other people who will. That’s democratic socialism.

      CULT1840, I enjoy reading your long posts but I don‘t think you’ve quite nailed down what you believe.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 20, 2011 at 8:22am

      @ jzs
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 5:19pm

      There is a failure here to recognize that United States has a mixture of capitalistic and socialist practices.
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      JZS, at least when you “go wrong” you go wrong completely. STUFF doesn’t define governance the right liberty ascribed by the Founding intent or Framers ideology. Communities by their very nature require Laws and to ensure the fabric of society works correctly to ensure local interest are equally shared. Right liberty still measures the first principle of association (stay from harm), and the people are free to choose without force from a centralized elite tyranny contained in socialism demanding a certain shared ideology, economy etc. Thus, the people are free to regulate their own enterprise, but still work with their local eqaul peers to ensure the best ease of shared metropolitan things, such as roads, public “service” servants. Education is also a choice rightly (Jefferson: It is better to tolerate that rare instance of a parent’s refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings by a forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of his father.).

      America’s institutions were to be democratic, but the society under a Constitutionally Represented Republican form of governance.

      You can‘t discern socialism from the free marker because you’re a communist.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 20, 2011 at 8:49pm

      @jzs I see your point. Let me try again, which I think you seem to almost understand.

      Socialism is only a system or form of Governing, not the definition or nature of Government. These so called “community owned” places or departments are, in general, part of the functions and duties of Government. Period. These are basic Governmental functions. How they are manged or governed, or even established, is something else. They me be governed through Socialism or a Communist State, or through a Constitutional Republic, and so on.

      And lastly. The founding fathers sought to govern us in the least possible way and manner. “That government is best which governs least.” – Thomas Paine. They establish a form of Government that distributed the main source of Power, and further scattered these centers of Powers into districts, States, Counties, Cities, townships, etc. Socialism cannot work under such a dispersed system of Power. Our “community owned” places and departments are not governed under a Socialist form of Government. They are, for the most part, basic or necessary functions or duties under ANY established type, form or system of Government.

      We may disagree, but I hope I got my point of view across. It sounds repetitive, but it really is a simple concept.

      One last point. Socialism intends to Govern these places or departments deemed necessary for the public good through ONE main center of Authority, not several independent entities.

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  • colt1860
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:32pm

    Obama is no Socialist. Obama is a fascist.

    Again, Perry is just playing to the tune of the desired audience. But he fails. He’s too late.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/nov/16/paul-obama-health-care-more-fascism-socialism/

    Remember, our Dictator in Chief wants to dismiss the Congress, We the People, and sign Executive Orders to make, otherwise unsupported, Laws. Not only has this Imposter in the White House bluntly stated his desire to fundamentally change America, but he has adhered to the Marxist UN and our Enemies to make National decisions. He has taken orders from International bodies and dismissed our Representative Government. Obama is beyond socialist, he’s a fascist. But to be fair, Bush signed into Law many of Obama’s necessary legal steps to get there.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:53pm

      Bush W. and Obama are Cousins, and are both progressives

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldZS9PL9KE

      The financial arm of the global elite has said, as long as it issues and controls and Nation’s currency, it cares less, who makes it laws.

      They could care less if we are communist or capitalist for now, although they do have a final agenda.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:58pm

      Roosevelt was a Fascist… I would suspect Obama is more of a Stalinist!

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:06pm

      colt1860, you’re a little confused about socialism. Who owns that street that goes by your house? You do, your community does, we all do. That’s public property that we all own and have the right to use. That’s socialism – collectively owned property used for the benefit of all. Who owns the highways that deliver goods to your neighborhood stores, the grocery stores, the hardware stores and the other stores you walk into everyday? We all do, collectively. Who pays the fire department and the police department? We all do. That’s socialism. America could sell all those roads to a company, let them maintain it, and profit from that ownership by charging you for the right to drive on those roads. The police, fire departments, public schools could all be privately owned and operated for profit. That’s capitalism, and you might think that this country would be better off if we got rid of all the socialist elements. The US could sell the Grand Canyon to Disneyland!

      There’s a legitimate debate to be had about how much of our country should collectively owned, owned by all of us, and how much should be given to companies to make money off of you. Your definition of “socialist” is your idea of an insult, but is detached from reality.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:16pm

      @ProbIemSoIver Yep. McCain was related to them also. I just love our aristocracy in this “free” Nation.

      Then, there are these other unelected aristocratic families:

      “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence.

      “A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody.” – Thomas Paine

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:27pm

      @JZS I think you’re confused about the definition of Socialism.

      We have a Constitutional Republic and are a Representative Government. Take the Post Office for example. The federal Government is given Power to maintain national Post Offices, for the equal use of every Citizen. However, the federal Government does not control the means of production, or distribution of all Mail. We still have FedEx, UPS, YahooMail and Gmail. At no time has the federal Government taken over the private property and private rights of Individuals in order to have one centralized system of communication and messaging. We still have a free market open for the delivery of Mail. That’s Capitalism.

      Our roads of common and necessary usage are public. Every Citizen has a Right to Travel and to use all public roads. However, there still exists private Roads. I may, without Governmental permission, build a road for my exclusive use on my large 500 acre piece of land; if I so desired. I may allow my friends to use this road with my permission and under my rules. That is private property and private rights.

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:49pm

      2 things i liked about Bush, he reacted quick on 911, and if not anything else, he’s a gentleman in all respects.

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    • bloptop
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:00am

      Do you know Fascism is? Do you really? It is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to rejuvenate their nation based on commitment to the national community as an organic entity, in which individuals are bound together in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood. Does that sound like Barack Obama? I didn’t think so…

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:01am

      Cult1850, you are all over the map. You admit that communally owned property, maintained for the benefit of all Americans, such as roads, highways, bridges, national parks, libraries, schools, national monuments are good examples of socialism, although you won’t use the word, and you seem to understand how property owned by all for the benefit of all is good for our country. So what’s your gripe?

      Great quote from Woodrow Wilson, who was talking about rich, unlected people have incredible power outside the democratic system. What is your point there?

      Cult 1850, what is your point? Your post was long, but seriously man, what are you for, or against? Specifically. Don’t quote other people, you’ve done that, what is your opinion? Can you state you opinion on whatever it is you talking about?

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:24am

      @JSZ
      ‘ There’s a legitimate debate to be had about how much of our country should collectively owned, owned by all of us, and how much should be given to companies to make money off of you.’
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      Really?

      Let’s debate.
      Socialism First.
      Capitalism is Where My Neighbor and I decide I will paint his house for a determined price.
      Socialism is where a third party person sticks his big fat greedy nose in other people’s business wanting to regulate both parties and collect a percentage of the money to be exchanged.

      Socialism means servers in a restaurant pools their tips, and the lazy, stinky, rude servers reap the benefits of the hard working, efficient, pleasant servers.
      Capitalism is keeping the money you have EARNED.

      Regarding Land seizures, the federal government has no right to sell off land, without congressional approval.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:24am

      @ jzs
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:06pm

      colt1860, you’re a little confused about socialism. Who owns that street that goes by your house? You do, your community does, we all do. That’s public property that we all own and have the right to use. That’s socialism –
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      My good Lord but you’re stupid.

      That‘s called Local and Municipality governance under State’s sovereign rights properly ensured under a National governance known as a Republic, where the people have rights to regress to the highest court in the land if they believe even those local laws infringe on their equal justice. How is that judged? By the limited power of government to infringe on those rights by the US Constitution.

      Do let truth get in the way of your lies you waste of commie slime.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:41am

      Colt Don‘t give in to jzs’s blather, he’s not a real person. He’s just another troll trying to get your goat.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:54am

      @bloptop I know what FASCISM is.

      fascism noun – a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

      That fits Obama pretty well. Do I need to repeat my previous post? Obama has STATED that he would dismiss Congress, our Legislature, and by Executive Power pass certain Laws. He already did this by telling ICE to not enforce certain immigration laws, and has even signed an order to practically allow the DREAM ACT to take effect, though it did not garner enough support by our Representatives in Congress. Obama’s appointed Attorney General Holder has refused to further investigate acts of intimidation by the New Black Panthers (a racist group) at voting booths during the 2008 election. Obama said of American small towns, mostly composed of white Citizens, “they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations”. That is bias and prejudice. He believes that certain Citizens disagree with him because of his race or cultural difference, and ignores all arguments based on Laws, Rights and Governmental duties. Obama further displayed an ignorance of National Sovereignty and an acceptance of International bodies by adhering to the UN and its resolutions regarding the conflicts in Libya.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:12am

      Colt, I agree with the general position you’ve stated, but fascism is CERTAINLY a form of socialism.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:14am

      @JZS

      10th Amendment left you an informative reply, but it is in the tread up above. Didn’t want you to miss it.

      And while I’m here, just want to give you another link to look at relative to last nights discussion.

      Seems that while the crime rates have been plummeting, gun sales have been correspondingly skyrocketing.

      Imagine that?

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:17am

      @JZS
      The missing link

      http://blog.thejustnation.org/2011/05/gun-sales-continue-to-increase-crime-rates-continue-to-decrease/

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:18am

      @jzs At no point did I say or even remotely imply that “communally owned property, maintained for the benefit of all Americans, such as roads, highways, bridges, national parks, libraries, schools, national monuments are good examples of socialism”. All these things mentioned are not “communally owned”.

      We have as Private Citizens ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES to exercise CERTAIN OF OUR RIGHTS AND POWERS for the benefit of the PUBLIC. Some elementary postings of Law may help here:

      That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

      That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people; that magistrates are their trustees and servants and at all times amenable to them.

      Republic. A state in which the exercise of the sovereign power is lodged in representatives elected by the people, under one form of government and system of laws. In modern usage, it differs from a democracy or democratic state, in which the people exercise the powers of sovereignty in person.

      We’re not a Democracy wherein “communal ownership” exists. We have a limited and Representative (not mob rule) Government; formed under the consent of the People, and instituted by Compact.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 1:45am

      Most of the 2012 Republican candidates are Progressives. More of the same. Lying to the American people to get elected. Look at all of them. Who has had to move their position, who has had to backtrack on what they said in the past. Look closely at all of them. Do your own research. Our Constitution is almost gone. With it goes our Liberty. Liberty is only a generation away from being lost gorever. Don’t let this next election be that century. We lost it the last election, let’s not do that again. Go with honesty and beliefs in the Constitution. Not just some blowhard that thinks spending anything anymore is going to work. Search your soul on this one. I am voting for one person and one person only. No more Progressives.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 4:16am

      @jzs My opinion is that of the founding fathers.

      Democracies have been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death. Madison

      The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Jefferson

      The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. Franklin

      In a republican nation whose citizens are to be led by reason and persuasion and not by force, the art of reasoning becomes of first importance. Jefferson

      My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Jefferson

      If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny. Jefferson

      An elective despotism was not the government we fought for. Jefferson

      I cannot undertake to lay my finger upon an article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Madison

      Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. Jefferso

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 4:29am

      Socialism ultimately benefits no one but the State. As true Socialism many never be achieved, and has only been sought by some arbitrary Governmental force or Authoritative intrusion in the private lives of its Citizens. Which is why it has always led to Communism, if it has not yet destroyed itself.

      Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. Adams

      See Greece, Spain, Italy, etc.

      Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights and duties, and to take none of them from us. Jefferson

      Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated. Jefferson

      With respect to the words “general welfare,” I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. Madison

      The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. Jefferson

      Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry. Jefferson

      Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. Jefferson

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 9:59am

      Very good work COLT.

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  • dino papparelli
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:32pm

    All of you posters are killing me. Yes, it’s Larry vs. Curly arguments and I do appreciate the lighter look at politicians. We need more of this.

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:30pm

    Sure Obama loves his country, tooting OWS protesters horn who are destroying million of dollars in public and private property, killing each other, ODing, pooping and peeing on the sidewalks, having sex in the tarps, yea they really got a good message, democrats are the biggest meathead evil organization this nation has ever known, they have many fingers that branch off the democrat brand, ACLU, Communist party, you name it! All of them are evil! I think there might have been some naive people in the democratic party once upon a time but everything is so visible now, I don’t think so, if they don’t know by now, they never will!

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  • One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:17pm

    Good to see another in that field forcefully state what should be the obvious but is not to half the nation, where Socialism is only an evil word but eff this and eff that isn’t. It‘s painfully obvious most of the left don’t know what a socialist is until Chairman MaObama, and many still don’t get it. They have to learn history in order to not repeat it, and they haven’t been taught as we know.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:35pm

      Exactly right. Pretty impressed with Perry the last few days. He’s displaying exactly what is missing from Bachmann, fire.

      The time for parsing words is gone. Call it like you see it or get the hell out of the race. It’s also time they take Romney to task for his right wing (I call it soft socialism) version of socialism. Whichever candidate wants the job is going to have to be confident and up front for exposing the trash that is ruining America.

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:57pm

      I agree with the Romney assessment on soft socialism, I sure hope the GOP establishment, the press, Obama and the brotherhood don’t succeed in getting Romney nominated!

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:16pm

    O’Reilly asked Perry if he thought O-bam-a was putting America under on purpose, Perry said he thought O-bam-a loved his country, he just didn’t say which country he thought was O-bam-a’s!

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:40pm

      Beck was right.
      Obama is doing it on purpose.
      Nobody is that stupid. Not even Obama.

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  • Lion420
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:15pm

    If this were WWE, the announcers would say “The Deadman is back!!”

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  • nobull14
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:15pm

    Oturd needs to be impeached , Perry is a moron!!!!

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    • BobtheMoron
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:21pm

      Would you please stop berating morons. At least, we have measurable IQs. The word you are looking for is ‘idiot’.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:34pm

      UM… I do not think moron and idiot apply. Ya see morons and idiots are harmless. the potus is not harmless, what he is doing is intentional. period.

      who is JOHN GAULT ?

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:11pm

    Everyone who don’t know Obama is a socialist…..here’s your sign!

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:44pm

      Don’t forget the T-shirt, cap, jacket, tattoo, membership card and full “Club Stupid” benefits.

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  • essence428
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:08pm

    Perry also said that Obama loved “his country.” If he meant the United States, then Perry needs to pick up the clue phone!!

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    • One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:20pm

      Funny you say that cause I turned to my buddy right then and said “by home country he must mean Obama loves Kenya because he sure don’t love THIS NATION!!” ;)

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    • teahugger
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:47pm

      Sure he loves this country…just like a wife-beater loves his wife, and wants to fundamentally transform her.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:56pm

      TEAHUGGER well put

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:47am

      @Teahugger

      lol. That was brilliant.

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  • Micmac
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:07pm

    Perry states the obvious….

    Progressive = Socialist…nothing new here.

    NoBama 2012
    Reboot Washington

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:28pm

      Due to a UCC lien, the receivers of our 1933 bankruptcy, run America, running a de-facto government under emergency powers, still posing as a Constitutional Representative Republic. Until we defy an International Lien, under the uniform commercial code, we will never be free citizens again.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:34pm

      In 1913 the federal reserve act was passed.
      in 1933 America declared bankruptcy.
      FDR pledged US citizens as collateral to the Federal Reserve ( A private bank no more federal than Federal express )
      Birth certificates became law in all states in 1933 and social security became law in 1936, under agreement with the federal reserve to track, and garner wages of it’s collateral (you).
      Your birth certificate # is owned by someone, and is a securities exchange # on the stock market.
      The Federal Reserve Private Bank is owned by the global elite.
      The receivers of the bankruptcy ( Global elite ) now run the U.S. as a corporation.
      You are considered a human resource, expected to earn 1 million in your lifetime, and pay a percentage of that to the world banks IRS > IMF > Vatican.
      The Secretary of the Treasury is a Fed-Appointed manager to oversee our Bankruptcy.
      He proposes loan packages to our “Government”.
      we have been bankrupt since 1933 and any dime our “government” spends is loaned w/ interest money.
      Your tax dollars are paying the interest on previous loans while our “government” borrows more.
      The greatest Ponzi-Scheme in history.
      The only way to get out of this is to go to a silver based currency that is printed by our treasury.
      JFK signed executive order # 11110 which was exactly what I said above, and was assassinated
      5 months later.
      Obama and Bush W. are Cousins.
      Democrat and Republican are two wings of the same bird !!!!

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  • majorsco
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:06pm

    When he’s right, he’s right. No doubt about it. Obama is a clear, no bones about it, socialist. I’m sure he could even teach staunch socialists about socialism.

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  • TSUNAMI-22
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:06pm

    Only O’ Reilly would as such an obvious question.

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:04pm

    And hopefully O’Reilly answered back “what’s your point?”. I hope Glenn woke Bill up a bit today. Bill appears to be a bit behind the curve at this point. As for Perry, I am glad he is willing to say it. Does he believe it is the question. I am starting to feel these politicians are so far behind the curve that they would call a Prius a freight train if left to speak for themselves.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:53pm

      Since Beck left… there is no counter-balance to Fox (which was never really Conservative)… so it is now just Progressive… and O’Reilly seems under more pressure to be more “balanced” than “fair”!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:02pm

    Palin said that in the last Presidental Election… seems a little late to jump on board!

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  • LiberalMarine
    Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:01pm

    Good job Rick Perry, way to up your rhetoric to try and worm your way back into the race,

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    • randy
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:04pm

      Fake Marine

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    • cykonas
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:13pm

      First, sir, thank you for you service to our country. With all due respect I must ask you why you chose the use the verb “worm”? Rick Perry is a part of this discussion whether you like him or not. Just for clarification I’m not a big fan of his, but his objection to Obama characterizing Americans as lazy is right on target. That was not a good move for Obama to make. Americans are not lazy! Our lack of competivness in this global economic world is due in large part to the onerous burden of regulations and tax complexities that our government has foisted upon us. If we have been lazy in any way it’s been in our watchfulness over the tyrants, Republican and Democrat alike, who have put us in untenable positions time and time again. We need to get unlazy and vote all of them out.

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    • LiberalMarine
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:19pm

      I meant that at Randy.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:28pm

      The Marines that I know would have found a much more diplomatic way to express their displeasure with a fellow citizen.

      Just sayin’

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    • RLTW
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:47pm

      Not a Marine, even by your fellow Marines I’m sure. Do you speak so openly with them about your Marxist views?

      Oh, how was your date with Justin timberlake at the ball?

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:48pm

      To heck with you billy. I don’t talk that way but thought it was very appropriate! Same to you billy!!

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    • CobiusMaximus
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:49pm

      Maybe if I wear camo to a hippie jam fest I can call myself a marine too.

      Not going to try it. Don’t want to catch TB. And I do not believe that money or soap are the roots of all evil.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:50pm

      fake marine

      no marine i grew up with , lived with , and served with would act like you

      you are a fraud

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:06pm

      @RATIONAL MAN

      Sorry I offended you there brother.

      My comment to the “Lib Marine” was not based solely on the comment in this thread, but on his complete body of work which I have been observing for quite some time now.

      I’ll stand by my comment, thank you very much.

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:14pm

      LiberalMarine you would have been a rare commodity back when I was in the military, most military people then were conservatives then but that been quite a few years, if you are really a liberal marine, thank you for your service!

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    • Espada
      Posted on November 19, 2011 at 11:04am

      Which are you… a liberal, or a Marine ?

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    • obamabirthcertificate.net
      Posted on November 20, 2011 at 11:44pm

      Governor Perry, why allow usurper Obama on the Texas ballot?

      Sheriff Arpaio is closing in. Obama’s birth certificate contains many anomalies justifying investigation by law enforcement, as does his social security number. Both are alleged to be fraudulent by numerous experts. However even if the alleged fraud had gone unnoticed and it’s assumed he was born in HI, Obama is still not Constitutionally eligible.

      Article 2, Section 1, requires the President to be a natural born citizen. This involves two equally important prerequisites. The first is being born in the USA or sovereign US jurisdiction. The second is being born to US citizen parents (plural). Both prerequisites must be satisfied. Obama absolutely failed to meet one prerequisite at birth and maybe both. He does not have TWO US citizen parents! Therefore he is not eligible.[1]

      1. Well researched referenced explanations of both prerequisites: http://www.obamabirthcertificate.net

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 2:57am

      obamabirthcertificate.net
      Who says that being the child of two citizens is a requirement for establishing natural born citizenship? Not the Constitution, not any law or act of Congress, and definitely not the Supreme Court! When they finally ruled on the issue back in 1898, they said just the opposite – it doesn’t matter who your parents are as long as you‘re born here. I can’t see that any of the crackpots you reprint on your website have any source for this odd delusion other than their deliberate misinterpretation of an irrelevant Supreme Court decision that both predates the 1898 ruling, and specifically says that it is not setting a precedent or establishing a complete and exclusive definition of natural born citizenship.

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    • obamabirthcertificate.net
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:58pm

      @ Chet Hempstead

      Aka: Chester the Molester of truth (and creepy stalker).
      Motto: “The Constitution, don’t examine it too closely.”

      As I’ve demonstrated by well researched properly referenced facts presented in the context of accurate American history, a careful logical reading of Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution, contrasted 1790 1st Congress law repealed and replaced by the 3rd in 1795, Amendment 14 and Supreme Court findings, all confirm that a natural born citizen is one born within US jurisdiction of US citizen parents (plural).[1]

      Proving there is a difference between a natural born citizen and a citizen, beyond excluding naturalized citizenship, proves Obama is an ineligible usurper!

      America won’t be dissuaded from learning the truth by your inept Alinsky attacks obscuring facts with absurd unsupported contentions and previously answered perpetually preposterous questions. A recent thread offers extensive proof of your habitual misleading fraud: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/love-lost-obamas-personal-assistant-reggie-love-quitting/?corder=asc#commentsAlinsky

      Dr. Savage, Ph.D., was certainly right when he wrote:
      “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder”

      Lamentably truth seldom accompanies subversive liberal bias by progressive socialist democrats.

      1. TPC, “Obama is Not an Eligible Natural Born Citizen” http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net (July 4, 2011)

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 6:43pm

      obamabirthcertificate.net
      I want people to examine the Constitution, that’s the only way they will know that nothing in it supports your claims about what it means. You should get a motto of your own, like “The Constitution, I’ll tell you what it should say.”

      The “1790 1st Congress law” that you refer to was the NATURALIZATION Act. A more literate reader would have been able to figure out from the title alone that it had absolutely jack squat to do with the definition of natural born citizenship or the status of people born IN this country.

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    • obamabirthcertificate.net
      Posted on November 21, 2011 at 11:47pm

      @ Chet Hempstead

      Aka: Chester the Molester of truth (and creepy stalker).
      Motto: “The Constitution, don’t examine it too closely.”

      That issue was addressed, even under the minimal character restrictions of this site, in one of the comments included in the linked thread. Anyone interested in seeing the depths of your Alinsky lies and depravity can see the comment posted on November 13, 2011 at 2:36am.

      Obviously, like every progressive socialist democrat, you can’t handle the truth!

      However provided you even are an American citizen, if you have any interest in understanding the Constitution written to establish and preserve American liberty, try actually reading the article “Obama is Not, an Eligible Natural Born Citizen.”[1]

      I’m not condensing pertinent aspects of the site point by point for you anymore. You just ignore the answers and then pretend your purposefully misleading contentions or questions haven’t previously been addressed. Just stop your deceit. You’re finished here.

      You have been weighed, measured, and found wanting. In what world could you possibly justify such deceit? Begone, foul Obot. Your very name screams ignorance and treason.

      1. TPC, “Obama is Not an Eligible Natural Born Citizen” http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net (July 4, 2011)

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 22, 2011 at 1:48am

      obamabirthcertificate.net
      I read your article and it doesn’t say anything meaningful. First it wastes a lot of space establishing that there must logically be some difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen, even though nobody ever said there wasn’t. Proving this, which nobody ever denied, is not the same as proving that there is any difference other than the exclusion of naturalized citizens born in other countries. Then there’s a lot of irrelevant gobbledygook about the Naturalization Act. The one thing I don’t see is any law or court decision establishing that anyone born in this country is not a natural born citizen. You have never been able to cite any such authority for this weird belief, and you never will, because there is none.

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    • BeckIgnoresConstitution
      Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:32pm

      @ Chet Hempstead

      Your reprobate Alinsky lies and belabored libel have been factually refuted in a previous thread.

      To those fortunately unfamiliar with your inane miscreant madness wishing to avail themselves of proof of your habitual misleading fraud, you’ll find it here but beware, tempus fugit. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/love-lost-obamas-personal-assistant-reggie-love-quitting/?corder=asc#commentsAlinsky

      Alternatively, I humbly suggest that directly familiarizing one’s self with facts most feared by progressive socialist democrats and then, given Glenn Beck’s self avowed allegiance to the Constitution, politely asking him to report the truth to his audience would be a much better use of your valuable time.[1]

      1. TPC, “Obama is Not an Eligible Natural Born Citizen” http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net (July 4, 2011)

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:29am

      BeckIgnoresConstitution
      I am not a follower of Mr. Alinsky as I am not a radical. I took another look at your arguments on that previous thread, but I’m at a loss to find the part where you factually refute anything I said. All I see is circular logic, irrelevant references to statutes dealing with citizenship status of people born in other countries, and increasingly pompous and overblown insults and abuse.

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    • Troll Patrol
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:32am

      @ Chet Hempstead

      Troll Patrol is watching you and is not happy with your Alinsky lies and libel.
      Patriots are advised not to feed this anti-American progressive socialist troll.

      “The worth of your opinion is in direct proportion to the number of people who have asked for it.”

      How to quickly and correctly understand Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution. Now you can easily share the facts with fellow patriots who can handle the truth!
      “Obama is Not an Eligible Natural Born Citizen”
      http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net (July 4, 2011)

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:18am

      Troll Patrol
      Of what lies do you speak? I am quite sincere in my belief that the facts in this matter are clear, and clearly on my side. If there are any facts in the article to which you link that would support your contention, I am unable to discern them.

      I am unaware of anyone having actually asked for your opinion either.

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