Romney a Rockefeller Republican? Newt Thinks So
- Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:40pm by
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(AP)Newt Gingrich is calling Republican presidential campaign rival Mitt Romney “a Nelson Rockefeller Republican” who will have a hard time appealing to the GOP’s base.
Gingrich also calls himself “a very complicated candidate,” telling CNN’s “State of the Union” he has to get people to embrace his “campaign of substance.”
Of Romney, Gingrich calls him “a very likable person” who works hard. But Gingrich says Romney’s challenge is, “People look and they say, ‘Not yet.’ ”
He also says he initially saw Texas Gov. Rick Perry as a “natural alternative” to Romney but that Perry has stumbled. Gingrich spoke highly of fellow Georgian Herman Cain, saying he has a good chance to be the nominee “if he can explain a 9 percent sales tax so that people will want it.”
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:02pmNewt is usually spot on. Just wish he had some of the beliefs etc of Cain.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
Report Post »The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
TrailBlazer66
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:30pmDitto re the UN!
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:46pmFunny because Newt is less of a Conservative than Romney. So he has nothing to talk about.
Gingrich was one of the designers of the conservative version of the individual mandate and while Romney was the one that implemented it.
Gingrich was fully on board with Pelosi about Global Warming while Romney has consistently said he wasn’t sure about the science but that he would waste billions or hurt the economy to push something like Cap and Trade. That was the reason why he backed out of the Regional Cap and Trade program the left was trying to push in 2005. He was for it until they wrote the legislation which was a government overreach as he said in 2005.
How in the world can Newt Gingrich say anything. For almost everything conservatives see negative in Romney, Gingrich supported it.
Listen to Ann Coulter get completely behind Romney/Cain 2012: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/coulter_endorse_romney.html
Would a conservative/GOP base vote for Newt Gingrich is the questions?
Report Post »Tired of Code Names
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:27pm@mad-hatter. I must admit that I’m not aware of “Gingrich was one of the designers of the conservative version of the individual mandate” I’m not saying you are right or wrong, but, I will do my homework and see. With respect to Newt being “fully on board” with Pelosi on the Global Warming issue, I must respecfully disagree. I believe he was playing some politics there, but, I have gleaned that like many Americans, Newt believes there needs to be constant striving to find alternate energy. He was trying to placade the left in that conversation. In future debates, I would like to hear his stragegy for dealing with alternate energy discoveries and what role if any the Government should take. I’m guessing Newt will not be a proponent of funding the next Solyndra. The new media forums that are going to displace the MSM are going to force serious candidates that way. At least I hope so. This has been a thoughtful thread of posts from many and gives me hope that the 60% of America taking their kids to church and baseball practice is waking up and will be the sleeping giant awoken. Lot‘s of pro’s and con’s for all of the conservative candidates. Some of them are older politicians like Newt. I believe, in this new awakening, Newt will shed some of the political correctness and as I said earlier on another part of this thread, if Newt were handed a majority conservative GOP Senate and even more in the House, Newt is wise enough to take opportunity and really mak
Report Post »trickball
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:31pmAnn Coulter is completely wrong here. I think her goal is to have a North Eastern Republican. But, the problem is that Romney cannot connect with the conservative base because he lacks many of the Principles of Conservatives. For example, there is NOT one Conservative Govenor who would have thought that finding a solution to the Medical problems was to implement a huge Government takeover in the Medical Program. And, this is just the tip of the iceberg amoung many. Gov. Romney also said that the President did not consult him when implementing O’Bamacare, but we find later that the people who helped him create this monstrousity of a program also helped O‘Bama constuct ans develop O’Bamacare. Ann Coultor is terribly mistaken here. We need to draw clear and distinct lines between what is a Conservative and what is a Liberal. Romney, unfortunately blurs those lines. Hence, that is the real many say there is not a dimes worth of difference between Democrates and Republicans. Nwet also has many issues with his stance on Global warming not to mention huge personal issues.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:45pmAbout the Nancy Pelosi thing… that might have been too harsh but he did sit down with her in commonality to push a pro-environment agenda that most conservatives were against when the video came out. It was a huge uproar that he started there for what he said. Does anyone have that clip? I guess I can find it on YouTube.
But his history was reported heavily on his past support for the individual mandate when he made that ‘controversial’ comment during Meet the Press (or some other show) earlier this year. The problem that conservatives have is that they forget that the individual mandate was designed to off load the cost we have for paying for the freeloaders who let the govt pay their expenses…
Oops the wife is calling, I’m out.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:01pmnewt is “spot on”???
How can anyone that believes al gore’s “global warming” cr@p be spot on???
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:26pmCoulter, Rove, and Morris are Republican Establishment shills. Who cares what they think?
They are being paid to twist the perspectives to the “chosen” GLOBALIST.
We’ll have none of that!
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:29pmI keep saying it, While I know this is a perfect time to finally get a truly conservative candidate elected, I am afraid the consequences of the slight possibility of them not winning the election is to great to take the chance.THe country is very divided right now and the issues are what will decide the election.Just a touch to far right and we lose, and we are in deep trouble then and America as she was designed will be over. TO many people have become so indoctrinated it will take a Romney to win the election. Then we can vote Rubio in in 4 or 8 years. People like my Mom, probably best represents that vote that we need on the right to win. She will vote for Romney. NO WAY will she vote for Newt, she hates his guts.She doesn’t know Cain, but she might vote for him. I don’t like this reality but I know this is true. There are far to many forces on the left in full swing and Americans have become accustomed to too many entitlements. It is the “bleeding” American heart story they will promote and people like my Mom bight every time… Lastly, the thing about Romney I don’t think people get is he financed a great deal of his campaign on his own. The reason he didn’t get past Florida last time was because he would scratch the establishments back, along with the media. Mormons are unique that way. Honest to a fault in many cases. All I am saying is , Romney can win and he won’t intentionally hurt our nation. We can move the nation more to the right, then more to the right
Report Post »staggerlee32
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:23pm@STOPIT
Report Post »Agreed!
Red Eagle
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:23am@JJOY, stop spreading lies, Newt does not believe in man made Global Warming, here is the proof:
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schroeder123
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:47pmA men !
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:07pmOn these forums I see a lot of people talking about how good of a speaker some people are and using that as a reason to support them. I would like to remind them of a guy named Adolph Hitler that was said to be “a great speaker”. If that is what you are looking for then you might want to consider the Socialist Obama….. of course this IDIOT requires a teleprompter…. but he is said to be a great speaker. As for me, I will support Ron Paul first, then Cain. Ron Paul is a terrible speaker, but he will work to return us to the Constitution. Personally, I don’t care if he speaks in sign language or draws pictures… I just want a return to a Constitutional government.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:46amTop Romney Flip Flops: #1. Abortion:
Report Post »In October 2002, campaigning for governorship of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney said he would “preserve and protect” a woman’s right to choose. He now describes himself as opposing abortion.
Vechorik
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:48amWell, candidates had the “Who is the best Christian war” now it’s “Who is the best Republican war”
Jeeeshhhh — wake up people!
Democrats and Republicans like to keep politicians in nice, neat little boxes, so they can take turns operating the military/war/banking machine. Ron Paul is a financial conservative and social liberal who doesn’t fit the box–so they demean him, ignore him. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX! THE LIVE AND LET LIVE PRESIDENT who can STOP THE WARS and use that money to support the needy!
“Occupy Wall Street”people warned not to let their efforts get hijacked (like the GOP hijacked the Tea Party)
Report Post »Napolitano suggests common goals.
End the Fed
End the wars
End the income tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF30eMuWFHI
DoYourOwnResearch
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:50pmGood old Newt!
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RQKNH_nwM4
UBETHECHANGE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:01pmHe’s not on the bandwagon anymore. He has awoken!
Report Post »Tired of Code Names
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:58pmIn 2008, Newt thought there was still some sort of status quo between the liberals and the conservatives. 2009 ushered in a new era of arrogance that even Newt could not believe. And, as with any person, fool me once….shame on you….fool me twice shame on me. I‘m guessing Newt has had a new awakening for the better and has seen and recognized where the largest percentage of Americans really want to move toward AND see’s the opportunity to do what he may have thought was impossible back in 2008. It took 2009 to make that happen.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:56pmNewt is correct, Romney IS a Rockefeller Reapublican… If we settle for a RINO again we will and deserve to lose in 2012. I want a true Conservative, Herman fits the bill Newt as his VEEP!
Cain – Gungrich 2012
Report Post »100 Million Patriots Standing
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 6:36amI would have a hard time supporting a member of the CFR – is Newt a member? I heard that he was….can anyone verify….?
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:57am100 Million, here‘s the link with Newt’s name on it – CFR member
http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=G
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:19pmWe don’t need another legislator in chief. Every time we try it it fails. We need an executive, but not just any executive, we need one with Governing experience. Freak out all you want and give in to “all or nothing” thinking (If he doesn‘t publically support everything I believe in then I won’t give him my support..)
Using our heads and not our hearts is the trademark of a true conservative. It has a lot less to do with how rigid, unmoveable, or unchanging our beliefs are in political appendage issues. There is a humongous difference between acknowledging how promising a concept might seem in embryo, and accepting every leftist mutation it acquires as it evolves. That is not flip flopping as much as it is abstaining from labeling yourself as an idiot before more information can be acquired and processed. Romney’s record identifies him as a thinking man rather than indoctrinated. This is his to screw up and I don’t think Romney will.
Romney&Cain 2012
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:39pmNewt Gingrich wants law that states: No court anywhere in U.S. can have Sharia in any form http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMvQ95ftvYI Thank you Newt! Newt/Cain 2012!
Report Post »Tear Em Up
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:41pmThe fact that the Speaker is open about his religious belief will be used against him by the MSM. He would be best in service of this nation advising another conservative who has a chance at defeating Obama.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_85_Oct._15th._2011.mp3
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:43pmNewt is greatly underestimated by so many. He is forceful, highly experienced, knowledgeable beyond the other candidates, would beat Obama in a debate, he is going to repeal 500 executive orders that Obama put in place, repeal Obamacare, and has more foreign experience than the others. I believe he would turn this country around very quickly. Listen to what he says and check out his web site.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:02pmThanks for the info. I am afraid of Romney. Mainly because he keeps coming out at the top of the polls. I don’t want to settle for just anyone.But will we have a choice if Romney gets the nomination? And will we stand a chance if he doesn’t? A third party would split the votes and give the dems the election. I just wish the repubs would stop playing games and unite for the sake of our country. They give the impression of a split party to the citizens and we need to show a united front. If they would think about saving our country instead of themselves they might be able to come up with a ticket that would be hard to beat. What is more important, their egos or taking back our country?
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:56pmCAIN/ Gringrich 2012, newt is intellegent and as alot of govnment xperience. he needs Cains focus and humor. Cain the man with the plan
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:36pmRockefeller=NWO just like Soros/Obama http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funders.asp#private < Funders of the radical left.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:44pmNewt is trying to get some “air time”. Making such statements gets just that for Newt, doesn’t it?
Romney is NOT a perfect candidate but then…….let’s see……how many wives did Newt cheat on?? The fiscal responsibility of his own presidential campaign does NOT inspire any kind of confidence. Newt has been a career politician and talking “head” type for years. I’ve not seen the kind of selfless service Romney has given in the Olympics and serving as MA gov for $1.
The accusation of Newt ……..WHERE is proof of comment to attract media attention?? Oh, yeah……responsiblity NOT really needed. Yeah, that’s just the kind of guy (Newt) we need running for POTUS.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:26pmNewt is part of what is wrong in Washington. Old school politics and one hand washes the other. He should stay in an advisory role. Go Cain.
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:33pmYou haven’t listened to Newt lately and you are wrong. Cain cannot debate Obama, Newt can with facts and knowledge of the entire system. He would call out Obama on his hypocrisy.
Report Post »LibertarianForLife
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:40pmCain is a naive fool regaurding the federal reserve – easily the biggest issue facing the country. If he is nominated, i’m moving.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:42pm>LIBERTARIANFORLIFE. I’ll pack your bags. But don’t ask me to touch your marijuana. You’re on your own with that.
Report Post »lemmingsrnotusdamnit
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:11pmUBETHECHANGE. Since Cain has done great holding up to the hostile interviews he has had with the Presstitutes, he obviously will be a strong debator, as he has also shown in the Primary Debates.
Obama will pee his pants having to debate Cain. Cain is way smarter.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:31pm@ ARES338
Report Post »I totally agree. I remember a couple of years ago when Newt was asked by someone about Rush Limbaugh and the “Barrack the Magic *****” song — Newt totally threw Rush under the bus without having any facts on the matter. Newt goes “PC” at the drop of a hat — as with the global warming hysteria.
RepubliCorp
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:52amWatch out, President Obama. Here comes “the Herminator.”
Report Post »A new Rasmussen tracking poll shows Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain leading Obama, 43 to 41 percent, in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup.
UBETHECHANGE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:25pmGingrich/Cain 2012! Newt will smack down MAObama the radical in debate and put him in his place, with TRUTH!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:51pmI could vote for that ticket. Newt can out debate ANYBODY. He has many good ideas for solving the nations worst problems.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:25pmWe don’t need a debator-in-chief. Obama’s record will do most of the debate, regardless. We need a problem solver. Hint, that would not be a nod for Newt.
Report Post »MissouriGOP
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:25pmCain, Newt, and maybe Paul are the only people that I can stand to see in the white house at this point. I like Paul more as an “advisor” type because he is an idiot with national security. Newt is the smartest man that is running. Nobody can outwit him, nobody. Cain is my number one choice. He has been my choice for two years now before everyone else started to know him. He is going to fix our failed tax system. It must be thrown out and replaced!! Cain/Newt 2012 or Cain/Rubio 2012 are my favorite two combinations.
Report Post »Unalienable Rights
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:33pmRomney is the only one who can beat Obama and the most practical conservative out there. The rest are ideologues. I could vote for any of the current crew except Paul or Huntsman; even them I would take over Obama however.
The reason I prefer Romney over all the others is his ability to bring together the greatest minds to conquer tough problems. In 4 years in MA he overcame a budget deficit and created a surplus without raising taxes. (Raising fees for government services to be closer to the cost of providing them is not a tax increase.)
Romney is staying on script right now because soundbites are so easily spun by the media and other candidates that he needs to be careful. I have read his book and his policies are what we need right now.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:40pmNewt is a very intelligent man, but has too much baggage and won’t make it to the nomination IMO. I’m liking Cain more and more. Rubio said he‘s not interested in a VP position if I’m correct. I would like to see Cain/West. THAT would shake up the left, lol.
Report Post »Tired of Code Names
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:48pm@missourigop. I as well really like Cain. However, I’m not so sure Newt is an “establishment” candidate. He was Speaker of the House that lead to a great economy…..only for Clinton to blunder away. I think Newt is really pretty close to a Reagon type candidate and will push things that direction given the opportunity to be president. He obviously knows the complete inner workings and won’t have to be briefed much to come up to speed on foreign policy. He will get rid of Obamacare and knows exactly how to do it. And unlike Obamma, if Newt is voted in as President, and the voters do their job and hand him a GOP Senate and an even stronger GOP House, some sweeping reforms will certainly be made. Reagan would have loved to have that opportunity. Love Herman Cain. My dream ticket is Gingrich/Cain. Cain get’s eight years to keep Gingrich towing the line, learns the political ropes and how to start cutting them and after that, I’d like to see Cain occupy the White House. Of course, Cain/Gingrich would be my second choice. Newt has to be there in my humble opinion. He is the guy who will know how to navigate the media HELL that will be to lived with if Obamma is voted out. IF he is voted out, 60% plus of Americans will be labeled racist by the media.
Report Post »MissouriGOP
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:55pm@Unalienable Rights – Why do you want more of the same? I‘m sick and tired of not voting for the right person just because people say he can’t win. I think no matter who we put in running against Obama he is not going to get reelected. Romney is a Liberal Republican. Yuck.
@Yepimaconservative – You are right, Newt has a lot of baggage but he has not said anything in these debates that I disagree with. His baggage is why I like him as a vice president or even an advisor. We need Newt in a way because he knows so much about every issue!
Report Post »MissouriGOP
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:58pm@ Tired of Code Names – I agree with almost everything you said. Newt and Cain are the people we need to lead this Country again!
Report Post »Cat
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:14pmWe can push our candidates all we want.
The issue here is getting the Marxists and thieves out of our government.
Like it or not, Romney will be the establishment pick for us.
We can’t call him or write him like we can with our Senators and Representatives.
The key to correcting the current mess we’re in, is getting back to values.
We need to insure the White House is returned to us.
We also need to concentrate on the Senate.
At the same time tossing The Affordable Healthcare Act will not be easy, but it must been tossed out in entirety order to get business on a steady path forward and not stall while waiting for government to drop the other shoe.
Our tax system is a failure. Period.
It doesn’t not tax everyone equally.
The ONLY way to tax people equally is to shut down the income tax system and commence a consumption tax. (read my other posts)
Spending, STOP IT!
The next thing is to kick ALL Czars out on their butts.
Then it’s the EPA … Cut it down or shut it down.
On to the FEMA … There are some things going on right now that will make the hair on your necks stand up. (read my other posts)
This is NOT pre-Nazi Germany … FEMA has NO business doing the things they’re doing?
Think about it folks
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:16pmMISSOURIGOP. I agree with you too that Newt has a lot to offer, and also would make a great VP… or at the very least part of the next Administration with an important role to play. His experience and intelligence should not go to waste.
Report Post »Enough is Enough__Oath_Keeper
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:45pmUnalienable Rights; If Romney gets it I will vote for Obama. The reason I say that is I am done with the RHINO’s and right now is the conservatives chance to take over the party. If Obama wins 4 years from now we can still point to his policies as failed. If Romney wins, the Libs are going to point at us and say see conservatism does not work either and the debate and finger pointing continues. So quit riding the fence pick either right or left and stay on it. The time is here and the time is now to take our government back.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:50pmNewt’s personal baggage should no longer be an issue. Its been a long time and he has matured. My goodness, look at the baggage of so many in politics. Its not fair to continue to hold that against a man who is extremely capable in every other way. He is by far the best candidate, in MHO. He would out debate Obama on every question.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:32pm@missouriThat’s it you will not get more of the same with Romney. Romney is a true leader and he is a conservative who has transformed deficits in MA to surpluses,without raising taxes-something virtually unheard of in that state. Romney is trained to cut wastes to improve efficiences. In MA he eliminated 2 departments in order to cut government wastes. Romney worked with hundreds of companies to make them more profitable. We need a president with this vast experience to run this country. I don’t know why I even bother to write this because people will just say the usual RINO,ROMNEYCare and NEOCON in response to my comment.
Romney will win the general against Obama.
Romney is more measured in his comments because he knows how the media will twist his words in the general election. I personally think that’s a smart strategy.
The people that subscribe to the Blaze is a small segment of the electorate and the candidate that the Blaze deems as their best candidate may not be the best candidate for the Reagan Democrats and the Independents and moderate Republicans.
Several National polls I saw a few days ago had Romney tied with Obama and had Perry and Cain behind in double figures.
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:08pmListen Up folks! Truth is coming out! Google Newt’s affairs with congressional aides while speaker…the wives he cheated on and left with cancer while bragging about his conquests with Clinton till Clinton got caught and Newt attacked Clinton publicly over it. Clinton told Newt to can it or he’d expose all of HIS affairs! Newt’s current wife Callista was his mistress for 6 years! No way she’s going to be first lady with Newt pulling a Lewinsky in the oval office! Newt ruined his political career! Don‘t know why he’s in this race??? Slimeball! Cain admitted today on meet the Press that the poor and middle class will pay higher taxes with his plan! Other stunning revelations in that interview too about abortion and marriage, and how he’d handle a 3am phone call! No way for Cain! Romney gets my vote!!!
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:08pm@unalinrights. IF romney gets the nomination i’m writing in Ron Paul. i’m not voting for anyone who thinks a progressive tax system is OK. CAIN / gingrich 2012
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:32pm@circledwagons- I will also mirror your actions like a child and if another GOP candidate gets the nod I will leave the office of the president blank and vote straight Republican for all of the other offices…so there. It works both ways and I guess in both cases we will probably end up with 4 more years of Obama.
Report Post »ElPzee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:21pmI think BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRESSIVE describes Romney better than Republican or democrat.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:17pmAmen brother. He is a Obama-lite.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:34pmCHicago76-So are you in chicago spitting out the anti Romney propaganda for the Obama Reelection campaign?
Report Post »BORNINTOAWORLDATWAR
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:04pmThe real battle is taking place now.
Report Post »In the end it does not matter who ends up running against Obama, as I would vote for any of them over our current lack of leadership.
Fight for your choice now and rally behind the winner in the general election.
Otherwise get ready for more and more “occupy crap”
Ferrarello
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:19pmOf coarse he is… just like Nelson.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:16pmDemocrats and Republicans like to keep politicians in nice, neat little boxes, so they can take turns operating the military/war/banking machine. Ron Paul is a financial conservative and social liberal who doesn’t fit the box–so they demean him, ignore him. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX! THE LIVE AND LET LIVE PRESIDENT who can STOP THE WARS and use that money to support the needy! Ron Paul 2012 can win! For LESS government, not MORE!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF30eMuWFHI
jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:27pmi know man… i wish more people would wake up to this… Ron Paul is our Thomas Jefferson…
Report Post »wilsonj72
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:42pmRon Paul is a professional Republican Senator. Who knows what music to dance to and when to dance when he gets that phone call from the RINO that tells him to shut-up he shut-up. He is no outsider! You are fooling yourself, I’m sorry to tell you the truth. To have been in Washington DC that long and not be an inside man. First be honest with yourself and face the truth.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:13pmyou are hilarious. i‘ve followed Ron since the 80’s man. I know who Ron is, what he stands for and his voting record. have you looked at his voting record to back up what you are saying… i know he is a senator… he’s probably the only honest one in congress… lobbyists don’t even contact him. THAT is who he is. he’s no insider, if he was… the media would be all about him… nice try comrade. ;)
Report Post »Tired of Code Names
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:16pm@vechorik. Ron Paul is very compelling and being very conservative, I agree with him on almost every issue. My first dismay though, is that in my humble opinion, we can’t do away with some moral law issues such as illeagle drug use. I have seen personally the destruction of the starter drug marijuana and can only imagine how much worse it would be if it was not treated as illeagle. Amsterdam comes to mind in this conversation. They are trying to back off their open stance as we speak. National Security. Whether we like it or not, their is a global initiative to take out the USA. Any form of isolationalism seems likely to be devestating. I’m not privy to the nations top secret information or issues, however, I know what I see. Obamma was ready to closed Gitmo and signed the executive order (I think prior to his first real security briefing from the military and CIA) I may be wrong, but, regardless, if he signed it after the briefing, it was meerely to appease his base. Obviously he had no intention of keeping that order after his security briefing. And, he also maintained the Bush policies and even one upped it with the drone strikes because he can without near as much Media harrassment. I don’t know how much Ron Paul knows about the top secret, but, I think he would be in the same position and dissapoint the liberatarians as well on that respect. With that said, if he were the nominee, I would vote for him.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:37pm@Tired of Code Names
Report Post »hey, check this out… without marijuana, i would not have the great job i have today… i do tedious work, i am a programmer and i am a scatter brained without it, thinking a mile a minute… it allows me to focus my thoughts, zone in on something and accomplish it… it, like ALL chemicals, has different effects on everyone differently… it is all about moderation not abuse… with that said.. i have seen MANY things ruin peoples lives, all of which are perfectly legal. this is a simple fact, it is perfectly legal to jump out of a plane, parachute down to a mountain then proceed to snowboard to the bottom… yet, that is something i would NEVER CHOOSE to do. why? because, through my research, and knowing myself, i feel it is too dangerous for me to attempt… Also, people who want to do drugs, are already doing them… people are not going to start using drugs because they are legal… that is a blatent lie… i can go on and on all day about legal stuff people do not use or do because they feel it’s too dangerous for themselves… tablesaws, bandsaws, routers, heavy machinery, etc… the list can go on all day…
Voice_ofFreedom
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:38pmRon Paul may be an outsider and have some good economic ideas but if you’ve been watching the debates you saw the moment when he effectively ended any chances for securing the nomination. He quite basically blamed 9/11 on our own foreign policy. Anyone who agrees with the president’s reverend on that will never get my vote and needs to stay far from the white house in my opinion. That is period and point blank.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:58pmlook up Iran 1953.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:05pm>JB.KIBS. Did you ever stop to think it‘s the dope that makes you scatter brained and you’re just in denial? You‘ve probably been smokin’ that crap so long you can’t effectively tell the difference.
Friggin’ pot heads…
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:09pmJB-
Report Post »As much of a fan I am of Jefferson, you may want to find a different comparison-
Jefferson, along with Paine, were the only 2 founders that saw merit in the French Revolution, and Jefferson, without Adams’ steady hand, was an author of the French Revolution’s constitution…Paine barely escaped with his head intact.
That didn’t turn out so well.
Steve
This_Individual
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:44pmVOICE – ” He quite basically blamed 9/11 on our own foreign policy. ”
Ron Paul described how our presence all over the globe is being used to easily gather support for those who wish to spread their totalitarianistic ideology by force.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:11pmyepimaconservative,
yes, actually i have thought that here and there… but, like i said, if you would have at least paid the courtesy of reading my previous posts before flaming me… i know myself and know who i was before… and the fact is, i was hyper, out of control and i never thought things through before i did anything… now i’m alot more careful, i am more focused and relaxed… have you ever thought any differently about it? or are you sticking with the “reefer madness” style propaganda?
see, i’m for liberty… meaning “To each their own” (obviously without infringing on anyone elses rights…)
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:28pm>KIBS. Weak.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:06amWow, lots of crap to cover in these replies:
First off, Legalizing marijuana would end the mexican drug cartels, the same as ending prohibition ended the mafia. You start letting them ban drugs, then it leads to food, then more… It’s like seatbelt laws… The government should have no say in any of that stuff, that is for you to decide.
Second, Ron Paul is not an isolationist, he’s a non-interventionist like Washington and Jefferson. Look it up. Plus watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
That also covers some of his views on foreign policy.
Lets say you KNEW and I mean you KNEW some of your country’s foreign policy was hurting itself, (much like it’s domestic policy hurts it), wouldn’t YOU say something about it? How would you go about doing it? Ron Paul is speaking from the heart. He gets more money from our troops than all the other candidates put together… times 2!.
We have been bombing Iraq for 20 years… thats a whole generation. If you lived in Iraq, as just a normal citizen, would you not hate occupiers and bombers in your country? We’ve been in Afghanistan for 10 years… Same thing, it’s not the troops that are the matter, its the stupid politicians in charge of it.
Really though, watch the video even if you don’t agree with it, its nice and short.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:35amVechorik, great post!
Libertyfading, I‘ll cover what you didn’t.
Wilson & JB – Ron Paul is a CONGRESSMAN, not a Senator. He does not want to ‘legalize’ drugs, what he wants if for the fed govt to NOT be involved with drug regulation as there is nowhere in the Constitution that the fed gov has the AUTHORITY to do so. It‘s a States’ issue and he says the States should make the laws. The fed gov is set to spend $23BILLION dollars this year on its ‘war on drugs’. Closing that department, set up by Nixon in 1973 as the Drug Enforcement Agency – the same Nixon who also gave us the EPA – would mean $23BILLION SAVED!
http://4libertysake.com/2011/09/21/putting-the-war-on-drugs-in-perspective/
Steverino – the Marquis de Lafayette wrote the French Declaration of Rights, not Jefferson. Among other things, Jefferson cut the budget, slashed Army and Navy expenditures, eliminated the tax on whiskey, yet reduced the national debt by a third. He also suppressed his qualms over constitutionality when he had the opportunity to acquire the Louisiana Territory from Napoleon in 1803. Smart move.
Tiredofcodenames, isolationism is not the same and non-interventionism, the latter which Paul adheres to. I offer you the following to read so you can understand the difference.
http://afreecountry.blogspot.com/2007/11/nonintervention-vs-isolationism.html
VET THE CANDIDATES
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:10pmCain is my choice!!! Newt need to be an advisor…I would sure want him on my team!!!
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:15amDo you really think our choice will matter? It seems Romney will have the nomination regardless. For some reason Newt has not got the charisma factor. His is very intelligent but something lacks when connecting with anyone that does not pay close enough attention. Many women that vote for the best looking and the candidate with the most charm. Obama has something that allot of people find appealing although I can’t personally see it myself. I do think that Newt would be a good debater against Obama but I don’t think enough people would be drawn to him as a candidate. Ron Paul scares me as far as foreign policy goes. Cain is good in so many ways but they will attempt to destroy him within the black community and I am afraid that it will hurt him more than we realize. Romney is a rhino I’m afraid but may be our only chance to win. It kills me to say that but I think it is a reality.As far as winning goes, I am sorry to say Romney and Cain most likely will be the ticket. Unless Perry has some magic to pull out of his hat, Even then Cain said that he would not run for vp with Perry. Isn’t it time for all of the repubs to put their heads together and come up with the winning stratagy instead of bashing each other with irreversable damage that will weaken the party come election time? They need to organize and figure out where each would best serve their country and accept that winning is more important than how high up the ladder they are right now. Give us a united repub part
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:09pmThe media & RNC has decided that Romney should be our candidate. We the people have other ideas. I like Cain/Gingrich.
Report Post »hi
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:19pmI agree.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:48pmI disagree and so do many of my friends. Romney 2012!!!!!!!!
We like Romney because he is a conservative who can cut deficits without raising taxes while working with a legislature comprised of 87% liberals.
No one knows what Cain can do as a governor because Cain has governed NOTHING. He has a big 0 for a political record. It is so very easy for Cain to claim he is a conservative because he never had to walk through fire like Romney! Cain has no political record to scrutinize.
Romney spent 25 years in the private sector just like Cain and Romney worked with a diverse set of companies not just the food industry like Cain. Romney was very successful in the private sector earning 200 plus million restructuring companies so they were once more profitable.
Romney finished at near the top of his class at Harvard law and also earned a Harvard MBA. Romney is the most qualified person to lead this country.
Report Post »gibbygoo56
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:54amRomney is NO Conservative! Ed has a very revealing article with an actual memo from then Gov. Romney. He is O-BAMA. They both believe in Romney/Obamacare and global warming. They both are surrounded by the same leftist kooks. Read this article:
Will Romney hire Obama’s climate-change guru Holdren?
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/15/will-romney-hire-obamas-climate-change-guru-holdren/
Report Post »Semper4everSemper
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:09pmI‘m old enough to remember how split the Republicans were in ’64. The country was still reeling from JFK’s death. LBJ would have never been elected otherwise. He won a second term for Kennedy. Romney could win but it will be perilously close. If someone doesn’t replace “H”ell-O then the USA is done. Pray for our kids and grandkids.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:33pmI voted Goldwater in ‘64.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:41pmOkie,
The Clintons aren’t much more than sympathizers of the plan. 0bama grew up among the people involved. He has been groomed by them.
So no, everybody on earth except Ron Paul are NOT part of it.
Report Post »Dawngreene
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:04pmThey are all Rockefeller Republicans, except for Dr Paul. Rockefeller family helped orchestrate the Fed Res Bank where Cain was employed. Cain is connected to the Rockefeller Foundation and so are you NEWT!
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:11pmWhen the Dr. is not selected ,will you take your vote and go home, or work for the nominee to beat Barry?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:22pmWe will write in Ron Paul or vote for him in the 3rd party which would receive 40% of the vote. No more progressives…If you choose to vote progressive you are only advancing BO‘s cause like BO advanced Bush’s progressive cause…
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:27pmi will write in Ron Paul.
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:48pmThis is interesting, but I have stumbled accross a simple identifier for the identification of GOP progressives and it is thier stance on the FED. If they are against the auditing and ending of the FED, you can bet they are a PROGRESSIVE. There is no other rule that fits. We can NOT afford to elect another PROGRESSIVE Dem or Rep, WE HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT PEOPLE!! DO NOT GET FOOLED AGAIN!!! Educate yourself and LEARN THE TRUTH, because the truth WILL set you FREE!!
Progressive (D or R) = END OF THE USA as WE know it!!! Get this one right!!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:16pmWhat you Paulies are trying to do is get 0bama reelected. …..which is why the Democrats founded your cult in the first place.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:57pmyou think he can’t win the debate?
i think any idiot could alternate using one of these responses to any given question…
“You Promised, your words, the people you would end the war and bring the troops home, FIRST THING, and told The People that they could ‘take that to the bank’.”
“You renewed Bush’s patriot act and issued even more executive orders, hence, slapping We, The People of America, and the Republic across our faces.”
we could go on and on quoting obama and catching him in lies, how he started class warefare, etc … but honestly, i feel that just those 2 alone could be repeated over and over again by anyone and Obama is over. it doesn’t matter what the question is, just repeat that to The People…
what do you think?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:07pm@QP Willie
What you Progressives are trying to do is further along BO’s Progressives agenda…
We “paulies” are standing up for America against Progressives. Progressives want nothing more then for us to vote by “party” and against the other party, not values and principles.
Americans vote values and principles and QP Willie is just voting against Obama as Progressives want. QP Willie will vote Progressive just to vote against Obama…How easily fooled…..
Report Post »Cat
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:28pmOkie;
If Dr. Paul is a third party or a write in, Barry Soetoro wins a second term with California, Washington, New York and the entire northeast behind him.
Report Post »Count the electoral votes.
Also, some dumbass states are pushing to get in first with their primaries and it’s losing them electoral votes.
The way it looks now, Soetoro is in the driver’s seat.
That’s why he doesn’t seem too concerned.
Keep up the push for Paul and you’ll get spanked in the end.
Trust me on this.
It’s happened before.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:42pm@Cat
I believe Ron can get 40% of the vote on 3rd party with the other two progressives getting 30% each. I can’t waste my vote on a progressive, sorry. You might be able to but I have too much honor to do so. I’ll be responsible for my vote.
So be it if Ron loses, at least I can look my self in the mirror knowing I did not vote for either Progressive. BO is the Dem progressive and Republicans will run one as well. I cannot vote for either as both are against my principle and values. I have honor and will not violate those principles and values just to vote against Obama.
Have a great day!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:21pmOkie,
Report Post »That’s a pretty messed up “principle” that you’d rather see 0bama finish destroying America than try to do something about it. That’s more like a childish tantrum than a principle.
420 Patriot
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:05pmA lot of you people that are going to vote for another RINO, are the ones who will put BO back either by BO being re-elected or a RINO that is just as bad. As it stands right now, there is no law that requires individuals to pay income taxes, which could help end the FED and the IRS. if Cain puts in 9-9-9, it will make income tax legal, endgame for future liberty. Wake up people before it is too late. RP will get it done. He is not weak on Foriegn Policy, everyone has been brainwashed that we have to be the police of the world. It is not isolationism to have your troops home and ready to go, rested up, instead of being stretched too thin across the world. I am very afraid of the coming collapse that most of you are going to be responsible for.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:44pmBy the way, Okie, the topic of this article is about something Newt said about Romney. It has nothing to do with Ron Paul.
Report Post »BORNINTOAWORLDATWAR
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:28pmAll primaries should be closed.
Report Post »It is the Libertarians and Independents that gave us McCain and then elected oBAMA.
Republican should choose their candidate not non-Republican’s
If you don’t want who we nominate then pick your own, you can’t have it both ways.
Romney is not conservative, he is however a Republican.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:40pm@QP “Willie”
It’s messed up I vote according to principles and values?
I can’t help it you and others give in and vote Progressive Republican just to defeat Progressive Democrat. You get caught up in R and D without realizing you are being played. Bush and Obama are the same, interchangeable. Both Progressive as Glenn said. Continuing voting Progressive, regardless of party, will destroy our country. A progressive Republican will destroy our country as easily as BO will. One in the same!
Find some backbone and stand for principle and values. You throw tantrums each time you post just to bash Paul supporters.
Yes the article was about Newt calling Romney a Rockefeller. The poster under which I posted addressed the article and then their thought. I replied to it.
You simply posted to bash Ron Paul. How bout you practice what you preach and stay on topic and stop posting bashes of Ron Paul in every article! Hypocrite!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:53pm@Born
That is typical of a progressive. Close voting to only those who think just like us and blame everyone else for our screw ups.
McCain was voted for by Progressives. The very Progressives he said he was and admired.
Libertarians are the backbone, the soul of being Conservative and Progressives have been trying to kick us out for decades to hijack the Republicans…Teddy Roosevelt..?
Libertarians would rather die then vote for a Progressive like McCain or BO. Get your story straight!
Report Post »Cheetosareus
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:04pmWill Obama be wearing his secret ear device hearing aid developed by the CIA during his debates so he can be fed answers to the questions by his handlers. I think they should all be seated in a “cone of silence” (Get Smart) to give their answers.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:08pmAre you kidding, Newt would tear obama a new one.
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:03pmMy two choices are Gingrich and Cain or vice versa…to lead this country.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:02pmNewt is beginning to look good after looking closely at the other candidates.
Report Post »gibbygoo56
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:13amOH YEAH! NEWT 2012! We will get rid of Obamacare, Frank Dodd, and the leftist EPA activists! Finally secure our borders! Become energy independent! Get this economy growing again and NOT the government! AND ……. dismiss liberal judges who don’t follow the Constitution. Sounds like a great start to me. WooHoo!
Report Post »Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:02pmRomney is a Rockefeller, Country Club RINO…
Perry is a crypto-lib (AL Gore 1988), BIlderberger, NWO RINO…
Bachman “My family takes money and subsidies from the Government, but I know nothing” RINO…
Santorum “I’m all for liberty but will cram my religious and moral beliefs through” RINO
Cain: Former Fed Gov., liar about his audit statements, part of the problem RINO..
Huntsman (See Romney light) RINO…
Gingrich lied on the Contract with America, immoral, power-hungry RINO…
Ron Paul a true strict Constitutionalist, Principled, Freedom-Loving, former veteran, non interventionist (in the tradition of our founding fathers), non-hypocritical, ANSWER!
Don’t let the elites distract you, Paul is the only answer, the only hope!
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:09pmYou are sooo right Ron Paul is our only hope, I just read INJUSTICE by J.Christian Adams a must read Ron Paul is the only one who CAN and WILL get us out of this mess plus patriots like said author of injustice
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:12pmNo Thanks
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:17pmYes, and besides that, Ron Paul can turn water into wine, walk on water and turn pumpkins into coaches. He is the only savior for America and the world.
Oh, and his $hi! smells like fine French perfume too.
We know. It’s posted several dozen times on every forum on the internet and spray painted on freeway underpasses from Main to California.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:27pmQP Willie
The only person saying that is you, why?
Can‘t beat Ron’s ideas so you resort to discrediting him? Pathetic and weak…Have a great day!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:43pmOkie from Muskogee,
Now look here; I was agreeing with you and this is what I get.
Heck, I think we should just let Iran have nukes if they want them. The USA has been around for over 200 years. That’s long enough for anybody to be a country. Of course ol’ Ron is right about 9/11 being America’s fault. Jeremiah Wright told us that a long time ago. We should also turn our backs on our closest allies too. After all, what good has ever came out of Israel?
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:44pm>QP. I’m with you. OPIE… now that’s two.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:05pmYepImaConservative,
Report Post »I’m going to stop trying to make friends with Okie. He gets downright pissy when he’s smoking that stuff.
YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:23pmLMAO QP. OPIE‘S a good ol’ boy and is a double fisted fighter. He can throw a Ron Paul haymaker with one hand, and a Scripture bomb at ya’ with the other… but is way over the top with both. He knows no happy medium.
But he does give everyone a…. “Have a nice day!” Lol.
Report Post »Enough is Enough__Oath_Keeper
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:10pmRon Paul is going to “LOSE AGAIN AND AGAIN” time for you all to figure it out.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:17pm@QP Willie
Just stop mocking “Paulies” as you stated above and stop trying to say we think Ron is a prophet as shown thru your first reply here. . I don’t take to someone mocking me very well. Do you Willie?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:22pmIn fact QP “Willie” you demonstrate exactly what Ron was saying: be responsible. You come on mocking and attacking Ron Paul supporters and when you get slapped around by us you say “dang, I didn’t anything to deserve that verbal slapping around”. Responsibility fool….
Yo “Yeppie”
Go kick rocks. We all can see your no conservative. If you’d like a verbal slapping around just keep it up.
Have a great day!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:30pm>OHIORIFLEMAN. I’m a very outspoken opponent of Ron Paul and his internet minions. The internet is by far their biggest forum for constant gnat-like irritation. I always laugh when I see the Ron Paul supporters swarm to a topic like bees with their stingers at the ready. I hear the music in my head “flight of the Bumble Bee” while they are insulting posters along the way who don’t kneel at the alter of either Ron Paul or Libertarianism. I take the time to irritate them in return. I can envision their heads spinning and the veins popping out of their necks like many “other” Liberals I come in contact with. Aside from fiscal issues… chaos is what I see in their desires for freedom from the man.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:33pm@Ohio
You are ignorant on Iran. Educate yourself. No need to be insulting to Ron Paul supporters unless you want to be treated the same way. Just sayin…..
http://non-intervention.com/
Have a great day!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:38pmLMAO at OPIE. I do kick rocks all day long. I call them Ron Paul supporters. “Verbal slapping?” Yeah you go with that. Okay, now come back down to reality.. we have a real world to live in. Call Ron Paul and let him know. He’ll listen to you.
Have a nice day… lol.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:53pm@Yep
You really think high of yourself…Must be one of those tough guys behind the keyboard…When you gonna be honest about your policy and Obamas being the same? when are you gonna be honest about sending aid and rebuilding aid is building the mosques you say you wanna fight? When are you gonna be honest the “Conservatives” never start wars no matter what but your chanting for one? When will you be honest you want to control folks and limit liberty like Progressives? Every view you hold is just like John McCain……Views as yours is why the USA will fall very soon even with Obama out of office. Views as yours is the reason our Children will be slaves. You are as sharp as a duct tape and think your cool. Pathetic.
Enjoy your day!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:17pm“LMAO at OPIE. I do kick rocks all day long. I call them Ron Paul supporters. ”
LOL…yeah opie used that phrase on me earlier…..he learned a new expression…isn’t it cute?? LOL
“I’m going to stop trying to make friends with Okie. He gets downright pissy when he’s smoking that stuff.”
hey OPIE OKIE..looks like I‘m not the only that things you’re a wacko loser….LOL
“I don’t take to someone mocking me very well. ”
then you shouldn’t post such idiocy…
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:24pm>OPIE. Just a regular Joe here with no desire to be an internet tough guy. Did that tough guy stuff for for 30 years n’ change for Uncle Sam. No need to drop trou though as I’m definately comfortable in my skin. A few aches and pains have set in though from the day to riggors/ heavy lifting burden of the Military Industrial Complex I chose to be a part of but I get around okay… get my drift? Lol.
I’m not quite as self-important as your average Ron Paul supporter, but I do tend think pretty highly of myself as opposed to being self loathing.
Conservative? WTH does someone who supports Ron Paul know about Conservatism? Remember… you folks are nothing more than thrifty Liberals… Quasi-Conservatives at best.
Ron Paul is not an option, but deep down you know that. Any intelligent person can see that… right?
Have a nice night.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:30pm“Ron Paul is not an option, but deep down you know that. Any intelligent person can see that… right?”
remember who you’re talking to…surely you jest!!!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:36pmJoe
Oh Joe you do not know when to quit….Mock, name call, insult, and be rude all you wish. You only show your character. The only rabid folks are those foaming at the mouth to insult Ron Paul like you. If you can’t hold an intellectual adult conversation with me please dont waste my time posting to me……Nothing else to say!
Now go pound sand…Take care!
Report Post »Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:37pmWe have 2 inane wars under Bush, 1 more and likely another under Obama… Of course, you Neo-cons don’t like Paul. You have been duped by the MIlitaty/Industrial establishment and are now mindless drones chanting the same dying empire cliches.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:44pm“Of course, you Neo-cons don’t like Paul”
yeah we’re not big fans of iran like ronnie is.
“If you can’t hold an intellectual adult conversation with me please dont waste my time posting to me”
its PAINFULLY obvious you are not capable of an adult conversation…you soon go coo coo coo coo….
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:46pm>JOE1234. No jesting on my part, lol.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:53pm>LB4LWC. “MIlitaty?” Must be the Libertarian version of complexity.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:54pm@Yep
I guess you and Ronald Reagan disagree then.
“The very heart and soul of conservatism is Libertarianism.”
Guess Ronald never sent you that memo. I received it though. I should believe you or Ronald????
I would like to hear how your views and John McCain’s differ….Why you support sending aid and rebuilding aid around the world which ends up building Mosques. How you and BO hold very similar views and policies. But you didn’t address that, you deflected back to insults. You know that is a progressive tactic right? Glenn Beck explained that to us…
You ever heard of Michael Scheuer? Great man! Intelligence is great…
Have a great day!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:05pmJoeBlow
What would you like to debate Joe? Pick a policy and we will and I’ll own you.
If you want to just be a mental midget and insult then don’t bother me. You are the definition of “rabid” foaming at the mouth to attack. I want no part of that.
When you decide you can debate let me know.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:13pm>OPIE. Lmao! And you see how that bit of Reaganesque respect came back to bite him in the arse by way of Ron Paul.
Let’s take Ron Paul… a slippery Beltway operator posing as a man of principle fighting the good fight against the corrupt “prags” of the GOP establishment. It reveals that Ron Paul is a fraud of the first order. The sordid reality is that his loyalty to Ronald Reagan lasted only so long as it was politically expedient and his vaunted libertarian principles have proven to be remarkably elastic.
As to Reagan, the young Congressman who had once been so anxious to be photographed with him scampered like a Texas jackrabbit when the going got tough. In 1987, when Reagan truly needed his supporters to stand by him, Ron Paul suddenly disappeared from the man’s side. In fact, he resigned from the Republican Party and blamed Reagan for his disillusionment with the GOP. In a letter that echoed the prevailing Democrat talking points of the day he wrote, “The chickens have yet to come home to roost, but they will, and America will suffer from a Reaganomics that is nothing but warmed-over Keynesianism.” That letter was not merely an act of breathtaking betrayal… it actually compares Reagan to Josef Stalin… its characterization of Reagan’s economic policies is utterly absurd.
Yeah, lol… Ron Paul supporters and Ronald Reagan’s words. You’re all a bunch of frauds.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:36pm“What would you like to debate Joe? Pick a policy and we will and I’ll own you. ”
sure you would…ok how about the trinity..and those who don’t believe in it are not christians? remember I tried to debate on that in the other thread…but you wimped out…no surprise there!
or how about ron paul is a disaster in foreign policy.
or how about you needing professional help…perhaps before we debate you should take the tin-foil off…and get back on your meds…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:39pm@Yuppie
Quit deflecting….If you’d like to discuss Reagan fully we will but remember correctly Reagan said that and then was influenced as President by PROGRESSIVES. Should we discuss Iran-Contra scandal? You know where Israel was selling Iran weapons for us and when we were backing Saddam in the same war. Any Patriot with a spine and balls would leave the Republicans doing such atrocities. Let’s keep things in perspective Yuppie…Would you call someone having Israel sell weapons to Iran a Conservative while backing Iraq? Then out of the other side of your mouth say we should wage war with Iran for Israel? Rut roe rhaggy…Yuppie is contradicting itself….Who is the fraud again!?
Again, let’s here your views keyboard crusader. Quit deflecting like a sidewalk sissy. Should I just start calling you John McCain Jr.?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:46pm@Joe
I don’t remember wimpn out of a debate. You were probably being a mental midget and just name calling and I ignored you like bigger men do…You’ll learn that one day, maybe..
Let‘s debate Ron Paul’s foreign policy since this is a political thread.
Ladies first so you start…One rule, must be respectful. Go..
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:47pm“Should we discuss Iran-Contra scandal? You know where Israel was selling Iran weapons for us and when we were backing Saddam in the same war. Any Patriot with a spine and balls would leave the Republicans doing such atrocities”
whats an ‘atrocity’ about that?
I know foreign policy is a bit above your intelligence level…but they were both our enemies…supporting both sides and sitting back and watching them bleed each other was the smart play.
its called strategy….
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:48pm“Then out of the other side of your mouth say we should wage war with Iran for Israel? ”
oh good you’re a wacko anti-semite too…why am I not surprised? libertarians are just liberals.
newsflash gomer: iran has been at war with us since 1979…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:54pm@Joe
Is it responsible to sell weapons to both sides of a war? The selling of weapons to a party of war makes the sellers part of the party in that war even without fighters involved.
You just demonstrated irresponsibility. Our intelligence community will tell you that. Just like if the drug cartels assassinated the Ambassador with Iran’s money or weapons Iran would be responsible for it as well as the cartel…
1 point okie..
Next question man….
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:58pm“You were probably being a mental midget and just name calling and I ignored you like bigger men do”
“Ladies first so you start…One rule, must be respectful. Go..”
wow the cognitive dissonance in one post is just amazing!!!
I thought I told you to take off the tin-foil and get back on your meds…..
you could make some psychiatrist famous!!! what a case study!!
Report Post »Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:59pmJoe… Don’t flatter yourself. Your condescension doesn’t belie superior understanding.
Yep… You attack me on a common typo? Really? The R&T transposition is common when typing as the letters are right next to each other. But you know that. You’d rather resort to ad hominem bully tactics like a 6th grade debater.
Okie… All this board illustrates is what a bunch on Knuckle-dragging Neandterthals theses two neo-cons are. They are beyond help….
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:02pm“Is it responsible to sell weapons to both sides of a war?
if they’re both your enemies hell yes…keep the war going…bleed both countries dry.
“The selling of weapons to a party of war makes the sellers part of the party in that war even without fighters involved. ”
so?
“You just demonstrated irresponsibility. Our intelligence community will tell you that. ”
just like they told us about 9/11 before it happened? oh yeah.
“Just like if the drug cartels assassinated the Ambassador with Iran’s money or weapons Iran would be responsible for it as well as the cartel… ”
duhhhh…and your point is?
“1 point okie..”
LOL only in your deluded little mind…
and whats your strategy? oh yeah stay out of everything and hope our enemies will be kind to us…yeah that works SO well..did you miss that little 1,400 year old war that islam has going against all that is not islam??? ever hear of charles martel??? didn’t think so…sigh…
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:05pm“Joe… Don’t flatter yourself. Your condescension doesn’t belie superior understanding.”
oh so tell us about your ‘enlightened policy’ towards iran?
let me guess…let me guess….its OUR FAULT they hate us…..yeah thats why Islam has been at war with all that is not islam for 1,400 years….charles martel FORCED the muslims to invade france….and the pope using a form of mind control…forced the turks to attack at the battle of Lepanto…..makes perfect sense…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:05pm@Joe
“newsflash gomer: iran has been at war with us since 1979…”
So you would sell your own weapons to the enemy is what you are saying? Wow…If Iran has been our enemy since ‘79 and you say sell weapons to them thru Israel was a good idea you are advocating selling weapons to your own enemy. That us just stupid by all definitions.
Point 2 okie….
You are an Israel first-er. I am American first. Israel does want you or the USA meddling in her affairs. Quit thinking you have power over Israel. You do not.
Point 3 Okie…
Next question mam….
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:06pmOpie,
Report Post »When you Paulies stop trying to hijack every thread on the internet, people won’t be so quick to point out what a bunch of crazed cultists you are.
joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:10pm“So you would sell your own weapons to the enemy is what you are saying? Wow…If Iran has been our enemy since ‘79 and you say sell weapons to them thru Israel was a good idea you are advocating selling weapons to your own enemy.”
yeah since they were at war with another enemy of ours…how hard is this? you still haven’t declared your strategery to us…
“That us just stupid by all definitions.
Point 2 okie….
”
yeah you are stupid thats for sure…
“You are an Israel first-er. I am American first. Israel does want you or the USA meddling in her affairs. Quit thinking you have power over Israel. You do not.
Point 3 Okie…
”
you’re a typical jew-hating anti-semitic wacko…and your ‘points’ are only in your sick little mind…
you want to surrender to iran, and you want iran to destroy israel because you hate the jews…
again whats your stategery to deal with a nuclear iran? hmmmmm??? let me guess BOW DOWN….its what you libs do so well…
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:11pm“people won’t be so quick to point out what a bunch of crazed cultists you are.”
In Okie‘s case the topic doesn’t matter…LOL
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:13pm“Israel does want you or the USA meddling in her affairs”
this is moronic beyond belief…iran is our affair…we’re the great satan, remember? they hate us with a passion…and your strategy is be nice, bend over an hope they will like us….delusional…
its why ron paul and his wacko followers are crazy…coo coo coo coo
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:15pm@QP “Willie”
Hijack? By debating I’m hijacking a thread? So all those posts above is a hijack by RomneyBots or Cainites? Or is it only applied to Paul supporters? It is just fear you are projecting each insult you cast. If we are a cult you have nothing to fear or no reason to even acknowledge us…Get a grip dude.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:18pmhey OPIE…where’d ya run off to?
still trying to formulate a strategy?
bet you’re looking up what strategy means!! LOL
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:26pmJoe
You advocate selling weapons to your enemy and thru Israel their greatest enemy because they were at war with Saddam. You don’t think Iran could use those on us? You are stupid. Just plain ole stupid. Anyone would tell you this. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. It’s like arming the rebels in Libya who had been killing our brothers in Iraq. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Joe is advocating selling Iran weapons…hahahahaha what an idiot!
My strategy would let Israel fight Iran like they are lobbying us to do so. You are completely ignorant of war, intelligence, and causes of war are.
You saying it was ok to sell Iran weapons is proof enough you are stupid. You demonstrate irresponsibility and honor. Yes Joe, selling weapons to both sides makes us take some blame by the people we were manipulating for $$$$…Stupid Joe…Look up responsibility stupid Joe!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:45pmjoe1234
“In Okie‘s case the topic doesn’t matter…LOL”
I was recently on a YouTube video about kiwi birds and there they were. four Paulies, ranting and slobbering all over themselves about how Ron Paul was the only person on earth who could save America.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:51pm@Joe
I hate Jews now? Funny. I suppose you hate Americans since you put Israelis before American lives. Ever read George Washington’s words…
The best strategy would be for the top two lobbyist groups of Congress, Jewish and Saudi, to pack their bags and move back to their countries and pick up arms to fight for them like men with honor do.
The strategy would be for all Israel first-ers to pack their bags, denounce US citizenship and move to Israel, pick up arms and fight like men with honor do for their cause instead of flapping their mouth like you from the sidelines.
But cowards like you won’t do it. You sit on the sidelines saying sale Iran weapons and let’s go to war with them afterwards. Your arrogance I’m American and can sell weapons to both sides of a war with out any blowback by the people led us to the mess today. That is what ME hate, not our freedom or way of life. Stupid Joe.
You are by definition Stupid. Quit being a coward and put your money where your mouth is. Go join the Israeli defense.
Thanks for the debate! Thanks for showing how stupid you and your views are! Have a great night!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:58pm@QP “Willie”
Do you ever post anything for a candidate or do you only come to bash Ron Paul?
You are equal to the “paulies” for you post anyone can save us but Ron Paul.
If you’d like to debate anything like adults we can. If you come to bash Paul every post then expect to be bashed right back. If you had honor you’d know this……
Don’t be so afraid of us “Willie”. you need to constantly bash is just fear since you can’t win on ideas….Have a great night!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:17pm“I hate Jews now? Funny. I suppose you hate Americans since you put Israelis before American lives. Ever read George Washington’s words…”
typical anti-semitic wacko comment. we have a common enemy iran…I would say get a clue, but its obviously not possible in your case…
“The best strategy would be for the top two lobbyist groups of Congress, Jewish and Saudi,”
oh yeah the same old wacko the ‘jew run the word’ BS…damn you’re pathetically stupid. I knew you couldn’t have an intelligent conversation..because you’re a WACKO of the first order.
“bags, denounce US citizenship and move to Israel, pick up arms and fight like men with honor do for their cause instead of flapping their mouth like you from the sidelines. ”
why don’t you go to IRAN since you love them so?? but you’re too much of a coward to do anything like that…..oh yeah you’re a keyboard warrior…LOL yeah you‘re real tough hiding in your momma’s basement using her computer!! LOL
“Thanks for the debate! Thanks for showing how stupid you and your views are! Have a great night! ”
yeah I’ve enjoyed exposing you for the piece of trash you are!!
have a great night sweetie!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:19pm“Don’t be so afraid of us “Willie”. you need to constantly bash is just fear since you can’t win on ideas….Have a great night! ”
no one is afraid of a bunch of losers….bet you were down on wall street…does your car run on ‘renewable stars’
what a nut-case
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:23pm“You advocate selling weapons to your enemy and thru Israel their greatest enemy because they were at war with Saddam. You don’t think Iran could use those on us? ”
hey gomer, I know this is hard for you to understand, but we couldn’t let either side win…saddam taking over iran or iran taking over iraq would have been a major defeat for us…so yeah lets sell to both sides…I know it takes intelligence to understand this, and clearly you are unable to…its why losers like you will never get anywhere in life.
“Anyone would tell you this. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. It’s like arming the rebels in Libya who had been killing our brothers in Iraq. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. ”
uh its not at all but clearly you’re far too stupid to understand the difference…wow talk about invincible ignorance…did you even graduate from high school?
“My strategy would let Israel fight Iran like they are lobbying us to do so. You are completely ignorant of war, intelligence, and causes of war are. ”
see I was right, your strategy is to bend over and surrender….hey gomer, this isn’t the park restroom, we can’t afford to bend over…
“Look up responsibility stupid Joe! ”
I would say look up stupidity, but all you have to do is look in the mirror opie.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:30pmOkie,
Yeah, I discuss candidates on the internet every day. That is, when a bunch of Paulies don’t descend like a bunch of blow flies in on the conversation and try to push everybody else out of the conversation.
When I discuss or debate I do the decent thing and try to respect the topic of the thread. I have a favorite candidate but I have sense enough to know that that candidate might not get the nomination. If he doesn’t, there are other candidates that I can support. I know that 0bama is purposely carrying out a decades old plan and none of those in the race for the Republican nomination are part of that plan and the plan must be stopped in it’s tracks if this country is to survive.
Your only real choice will be what you consider the two evils. You have chosen to help the greater of those two evils. That’s because your attitude is “If I can’t have exactly what I want, America can go right straight to he11″. Not at all unlike a spoiled two year old.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:37pm“That’s because your attitude is “If I can’t have exactly what I want, America can go right straight to he11″. Not at all unlike a spoiled two year old.”
Opie sure knows how to win friends and influence people on the internet….LOL
yeah talking to opie is like talking to a kid…a mentally deficient one at that…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:45pm@Joe
That’s just it…You think you have say if Iraq won or Iran won. It was not our business Stupid Joe.
And no I’m not anti-Semitic because I put the US first. You putting Israel first makes you anti-American. Go be Israel first in Israel. Here in the US it’s the US 1st Stupid Joe.
Iran wants us to attack them because Iran can not beat America by attacking us. Chess not checkers Stupid Joe.
Yes selling Iran weapons is the same as arming the Libyan rebels Stupid Joe.
You are the very reason the whole wide world who use to wanna be like America hates us now. You think we can tell all nations what to do, can profit off selling both sides weapons and expect no reprocussion for those actions, and pander to the two biggest lobbyist who won’t fight for their own cause themselves. You are a wussy with a P by definition. stupid Joe..
Every post you deflect because you are too Stupid to debate ideas. You are an embarrassment to Americans.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:55pm“That’s just it…You think you have say if Iraq won or Iran won. It was not our business Stupid Joe. ”
oh yeah you’re right, the world just gets most of its oil from the middle east, and we’re the lone superpower in the world, so yeah we should just let whatever happens happen..and hope for the best…delusional.
“And no I’m not anti-Semitic because I put the US first. You putting Israel first makes you anti-American. Go be Israel first in Israel. Here in the US it’s the US 1st Stupid Joe.
stupid opie stupid opie stupid opie stupid opie…can you come up with a new line you brain-damaged moron? its rather obvious you’re an anti-semitic wacko….your words betray you.
“Iran wants us to attack them because Iran can not beat America by attacking us. Chess not checkers Stupid Joe. ”
STUPID OPIE..iran has been attacking us for the last 30 years…duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
you must be in a great deal of pain, such stupidity has to hurt.
“You are the very reason the whole wide world who use to wanna be like America hates us now. You think we can tell all nations what to do,”
no its people like you, and your obama-like foreign policy. bend over and bow down…
and yeah we can tell people what to do…just like we did with pakistan when we attacked the taliban….again…duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….newsflash we’re a superpower..thats what we do…but if we had it your way, we’d be a third world backwater country like paraguay.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:57pm“CIA Clandestine Service History, “Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran,
November 1952-August 1953,” March 1954, by Dr. Donald Wilber.”
oh yeah thanks for proving that all libertarians are brain dead.
he was a communist…and we couldn’t have smilin joe stalin running iran and having access to the persian gulf…I know thats hard for you to understand..
I‘m sure you’re very glad we abandoned the shah…oh yeah Iran is SO much better off now…your libertarian policies worked out SO well for us….yeah….and its SO much better for the oppressed people of iran….
pathetic.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:59pm“You think we can tell all nations what to do, can profit off selling both sides weapons and expect no reprocussion for those actions,”
yeah there were repercussions…we dragged that war on for years..and weakened our enemies…a great victory for the US….but you’re too stupid to see that STUPID OPIE STUPID OPIE…duhhhh
“and pander to the two biggest lobbyist who won’t fight for their own cause themselves”
hey gomer, Israel has been fighting our wars for us…bombing the nuclear reactor in iraq and syria…because we’re too gutless to fight our own battles…I would say get a clue, but you’re too much of a stupid anti-semite hate-filled wacko to understand it.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:00pm@QP Willie
You seriously think it is just BO destroying our country and the Republicans had nothing to do with it? Seriously? There is zero difference in BO and Bush. They are interchangeable. Both parties progressed us to today and to deny that is calling Glenn Beck a liar!
I never said America can go to h ell. I said I will have honor and vote by principles and values. You are telling us if we don’t vote how you say America will go down the drain. You are throwing the hissy because a group of Americans is standing against the two progressive party system.
Again, you resort to insults instead of debating or conversing like an adult. Why? Analyze that….That is what children do. It’s what OWS does when we try to talk sense to them about capitalism.
Every post from you is to bash? Why? Why only post to bash some other candidate? FEAR!
When you decide to post for a candidate and stop just posting against we will get somewhere. Until then I’m gonna point out your fear and hypocrisy. You decide how I treat you. Stop being like OWS!
Have a great night!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:01pm“Yes selling Iran weapons is the same as arming the Libyan rebels Stupid Joe. ”
this is pathetic ignorance….libya gave up their WMDs…iran is trying to get nukes…does that make it clear to even a brain-dead wacko like you??? duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:07pm“Again, you resort to insults instead of debating or conversing like an adult. Why? ”
cognitive dissonance…or just a nut-case?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:15pm@Stupid Joe
If Iran has been attacking us why do you support selling them weapons….Stupid Joe! You contradict yourself so much it’s saddening. You are completely stupid! Sorry for laughing at you Stupid Joe.
Is that oil ours? No we have zero say over it. You sound like OWS who say the 1% wealth is theirs. It’s not our oil nor is it our country. We have no say Stupid Joe! Just like OWS has no say over the top 1%’s wealth Stupid Joe.
You and Obamas foreign policy is the same: sell weapons to our enemy. You said it yourself Stupid Joe!
Super powers are not bullies and we no longer are a super power because we owe more then we can pay! We are now slaves to our financiers and lobbyists…
How am I anti-Semitic by saying the USA comes first? That is just a label you use to try and discredit. Quit being a wussy with a p…
My travels around the world tell me foreigners dislike us because if the bully attitude you just said we should have. The attitude Washington said not to have Stupid Joe.
So your for telling others what to do, like OWS.
Your for selling our enemies weapons.
Your for putting other countries before the US.
You align with BO perfectly!
You are UnAmerican and Stupid by definition wussy Stupid Joe! What an embarrassment to America and Conservatives you are. And you call others “wackos”…Stupid stupid stupid…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:28pm@Stupid Joe
The rebels are the same guys Ghaddaffi sent to fight in Iraq against us Stupid Joe! The ones you and Obama armed and trained now are making Libya an Islamic State Stupid Joe!
Ghaddaffi stopped his program not the Rebels Stupid Joe! And there is a remnant of those weapons left including bio chemical weapons left that these rebels now have Stupid Joe!
Stupid stupid stupid just like BO you are….
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:20amOkie,
You prove that you know nothing about what is going on. There is a written plan to bring this country. It was drawn up by the Weather Underground, compiled by Bill Ayers and collaborated by Richard Cloward, Frances Fox Piven, Frank Marshall Davis and others. 0bama was groomed for it at an early age.
The plan can be summed up as:
“Hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government with a flood of impossible demands thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.” – Richard Cloward & Frances Fox Piven 1966
According to 0bama, it is now about 70% in completed.
The Paulie cult is a bunch of useful idiots put together by 0bama and company. No, you‘re not aware of it but your job is to trash anybody who is likely to be 0bama’s opponent in the upcoming election. That’s what you are doing right now. Once they are finished using you, it will be on the trash heap you go.
Notice the fact that you are never seen saying anything that could harm 0bama’s chances.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:26am“THE CIA TRAINED SAVAK! THE IRANIAN”S AREN’T STUPID!
How would we feel if a foreign power overturned our democratic elections and then installed a Gestapo-like secret police.
”
I’d thank them if they saved me from some fascist/libertarian jackass like you.
we tried it your way and let the ayatollahs take over….as usual your libertarian schemes are a disaster for the people in the country and outside it….
I would say get a clue but you fascists libertarians are too damn stupid to ever get a clue.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:32am“If Iran has been attacking us why do you support selling them weapons….Stupid Joe! You contradict yourself so much it’s saddening. You are completely stupid! Sorry for laughing at you Stupid Joe.”
stupid opie…I told you because we couldn’t have saddam taking over iran…get it now moron?
“Is that oil ours? No we have zero say over it”
yeah because we tried your libertarian scheme in the 70s…carter let the shah fall..and the ayatollahs take over. thats libertarianism in action…people enslaved…islamic terrorism was strengthened….
“Super powers are not bullies and we no longer are a super power because we owe more then we can pay! We are now slaves to our financiers and lobbyists”
yeah super powers are bullies…and freeing people like we did in iran when installed the shah is a good thing….libertarians think letting the ayatollah take over was a good thing….thats libertarianism…another name for fascism
“How am I anti-Semitic by saying the USA comes first? That is just a label you use to try and discredit. Quit being a wussy with a p…”
you’re an anti-semitic wacko…all libertarians are…they’re nut-jobs…as you prove..and they talk real tough behind a keyboard…but we all know you’d never talk to me like this to my face….wimp.
stupid opie stupid opie stupid opie stupid opie stupid opie stupid opiestupid opie stupid opie stupid opiestupid opie stupid opie stupid opiestupid opie stupid opie stupid opiestupid opie
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:33am“The rebels are the same guys Ghaddaffi sent to fight in Iraq against us Stupid Joe! The ones you and Obama armed and trained now are making Libya an Islamic State Stupid Joe! ”
uh gomer, I never said give the libyan rebels weapons…damn you’re dumb…the situtations are totally different…but you would have to have an ounce of intelligence to realize that….in other words you wouldn’t be a brain-dead fascist…er libertarian.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:51amoh and opie, you’ve lost the debate BADLY….
but then there is no debate with you fascists (ie libertarians) because all you can do is spew talking points…
the typical fascist drivel…’jews bad…cia bad…ayatollahs good yadayadyayda’
pathetic.
Report Post »Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:23amJoe you are stunningly ignorant!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:27am“Joe you are stunningly ignorant!”
at least I’m not a fascist libertarian. ignorance thy name is libertarian.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:43am@QP Willie
And you think this plan was only implemented by Obama? It took years for Progressives on both sides to overload the system. You are a party liner. Everything to you is the D’d fault. That is part of the plan Willie…People like you then whistle along as Republicans encourage you into the system. That is astonishing you think it is just one side.
You are the useful idiot for you blame only one side and you keep America divided like the plan needs.
Stop being part of the program Willie. Get your head out of your rear.
You are completely ignorant of the plan if you think Obama created Ron Paul supporters. Get over yourself. You are part of the problem! Have a great day! .
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:01pm@Joe
Actually Joe you can email your address and I‘ll hop on the first plane out of town and we can continue this discussion face to face if you’d like! I will call you a wussy with a p straight to your face and tell you you are a poor excuse for an American because you are. Of course you‘d try to commit violence and I’d have to put you in your place. Joe wanting violence. Just like OWS again! Maize Oklahoma is where I live. Come on down and let’s finish the conversation son. Put your money where your mouth is keyboard crusader.
Now Joe you are too stupid to remember what you said. Look above about what you said about Libya and rebels.
You want to take oil that doesn’t belong to you like OWS wants to take the 1% money.
You want to sell weapons to our enemies like Obama.
You want to put other countries before the US like Obama.
You lie straight thru your teeth like Obama.
Joe Obama Scarborough! That it you are as stupid as Joe Scarborough! Let me know when you want to finish up this conversation face to face! Stupid Joe!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:41pm“Actually Joe you can email your address and I‘ll hop on the first plane out of ”
I notice you didn’t post your email…LOL…since you’re SO tough..why don’t you just post your name and address?
“Of course you‘d try to commit violence and I’d have to put you in your place. Joe wanting violence”
sounds like you want violence wanting to meet me face to face….go ahead post your name and address….lets see how tough you really are!!
“Maize Oklahoma is where I live”
so do I just go down to the homeless section and look for a wacko who mumbles to himself and foams at the mouth?? LOL
“You want to take oil that doesn’t belong to you like OWS wants to take the 1% money. ”
more lies…again you sound like a typical OWS wacko…..you’re seriously deluded and stupid…jackass.
tell me are you as fat as you are stupid?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:43pmoh and opie, you‘re just upset because I’ve made you look so stupid so easily….but you don’t need any help, your own posts show what a deranged lunatic you are.
get some professional help.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:47pm“Maize Oklahoma is where I live”
just for grins I did a good map search…there is no maize oklahoma….LOL no surprise…
there’s one in kansas…but no oklahoma….do you tell the truth about anything??
what a buffoon!!!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:59pm@Joe
I’ve given you my email before but here you go okiefrommuskogee33@yahoo.com
Maize is a small farm town. I’ll show you my farm. I believe you posted I wouldn‘t say this same rhetoric to your face and I’m calling your bluff because I will. You scare no one. So back your mouth up.
You think I’m upset? Hahahahaha no way. I received what I wanted. You posting contradictions for all to see. You exposing how insane your views are and how similar they are to progressive democrats and showing those views led to today’s mess. All one has to do is get you talking and you destroy yourself. Just look you said it was ok to sale Iran weapons. You say it’s ok to prop up dictators. You say it’s ok to take others property because you “need” it. All you believe have no repercussions. Irresponsibility.
Thru analysis of your posts above one can clearly see you, Obama, and OWS have the same mentality take what isn’t yours and bully others around. Sell weapons to our enemies and take no responsibility for it. Arrogance and ignorance. Stupidity.
So Stupid Joe thank you for showing all the Blaze and who reads the above posts what you stand for and how stupid you are. Have a great day.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:08pmMazie Oklahoma Stupid Joe. Mazie. My IPad changes mazie to maize. I can‘t help it your completely stupid and can’t just look at a map of Oklahoma. Idiot.
So yes I do tell truth. Who is the buffoon? You!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:35pm“I’ve given you my email before but here you go okiefrommuskogee33@yahoo.com”
no you didn’t give it to me before, another lie….
“. I’ll show you my farm. I believe you posted I wouldn‘t say this same rhetoric to your face and I’m calling your bluff because I will. You scare no one. So back your mouth up. ”
thougt you were goona post your address….not just your email address….no surprise you’re gutless…
Report Post »you gutless little wimp.
joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:40pm“You think I’m upset? Hahahahaha no way. I received what I wanted. You posting contradictions for all to see”
yeah I made you blow a gasket….it was so easy!! remember I ring the bell you drool…I’ve enjoyed toying with you loser.
“You exposing how insane your views are and how similar they are to progressive democrats ”
you anti-semitic wacko, you’re the one who sounds like a fascist liberal democrat…..you really are brain damaged
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:43pm“. You say it’s ok to prop up dictators. You say it’s ok to take others property because you “need” it. All you believe have no repercussions. Irresponsibility. ”
uh yeah when its your libertarian policies that gave us the ayatollahs…again you’re seriously brain damaged.
I’ve enjoyed making you look stupid…thanks for the laughs and exposing what a deranged loser you are….
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:56pm@Joe
Again you show stupidity. You asked for me to post my address. I never said I’d post my address. Are you that stupid you don‘t remember or can’t look at the posts above of what you said? How hilarious!
How am I gutless when you stated I wouldn’t say it to your face but yet I offer to come see you or you can come visit me and gave you my email address and town. Stupid Joe.
Actually I never got mad once. I laugh mostly because you are so intellectually challenged all the while believing you make sense. I can’t possibly be mad because you are stupid. If anything I pity your stupidity. If I were mad I’d hack your computer and show up at your doorstep tomorrow. I have no need to do that because I’m not angry. I received what I was wanting: you showing your stupidity. I won! Wooohoooo!!!!
You post a lot of projection. Have you been institutionalized before? Everyone is a “wacko” but you in your mind but reality and your posts show us who the real disturbed to put it nicely is, Stupid Joe!
Stupid Sloppy Joe!
Thanks again for doing and acting exactly as I wanted. Your stupidity has been exposed for all to see. That was exactly my goal. winner winner chicken dinner! Have a great day Stupid Sloppy Joe!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:08pm“Again you show stupidity. You asked for me to post my address. I never said I’d post my address. Are you that stupid you don‘t remember or can’t look at the posts above of what you said? How hilarious! ”
send you an email…no response…no surprise…you’re a gutless little wimp!! LOL
“Actually I never got mad once. I laugh mostly because you are so intellectually challenged all the while believing you make sense”
you were foaming at the mouth like the rabid dog you are…..I knew just what to say to push you over the edge and threaten me…
thanks for being my pawn….remember I ring the bell….you drool…..loser.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:17pm“I were mad I’d hack your computer and show up at your doorstep tomorrow.”
you have no idea how pathetically ignorant that comment is. you have no idea how hard that is….what a loser!!! BBWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:31pm@Stupid Sloppy Joe Scarborough
You are so stupid it is funny…Threaten you? What are you talking about Stupid Joe? I simply called your bluff, your threat dillweed. Your the one who cannot debate civilly, who can’t stay on subject and when exposed contradicting yourself says “say it to my face”. You say that because you realize you lost the argument and you cannot win on the battlefield of ideas so you will resort to violence. Your just like OWS, Communists, Socialists, PROGRESSIVES!
Lol again you did nothing but show stupidity as I wanted. I feel so sorry for you for to be that stupid must hurt.
Projection Mental Joe. Projection.
Still haven’t received your email Stupid Joe. I’ll check again! Last post to you on this thread. Hope you have a great day Stupid Joe! Appreciate all the laughs you gave me with your Stupid posts, contradictions and exposure of your insane views Stupid Sloppy Joe!
Winner winner Chicken Dinner!!! Woooooohoooooo!!!!!!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:40pm“Last post to you on this thread”
yeah you better run away before I make you look even more stupid!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH
but I bet this is another lie…loser.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:42pm@Joe
Report Post »Just got both emails in my bulk folder.
You really want me to send you my SS#? lol I’m not as stupid as you. When you get your stupid self to Oklahoma, shoot me an email and I’ll come meet you and we can visit at my farm. You can verify who I am once you show! Sad pathetic stupid Joe! Have a good one!
joe1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:48pm“Last post to you on this thread”
BWAHAHAHAHH knew this was a LIE…..
I OWN YOU OKIE!!!!
bow down to your new master!!!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:19pmOkie,
Report Post »No, “both sides” weren’t in on that plan. The first president who was part of that Weather Underground plan was Clinton. There has been a “progressive” movement going on in this country for 100 years but that specific written plan has been waiting for the “right” time since the 1960s. It didn’t originate with the early progressives. It actually originated with the Soviet Union communists and the specific plan came from Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 4:12pm@QP Willie
I hear what you are saying Willie in regards to the specific manifesto if underground. They are crazy!
The Progressive movement began to transform America. Alinsky championed it. The Weather underground is a faction of that movement to further the transformation.
Free society – How we began
Socialist society -Teddy started
Communist society – weather underground champions
Progressive movement led to the weather underground. In order to have revolt you must have oppression in the other eyes. Both sides played their part knowingly or unknowingly to bring about these transformation.
Bottom up
TEA OWS
Top down
Both call to stop other protests
Inside out
Government dissolves to transform for compromise.
Marx own theory explains that all transformations begin free, then socialized, then communist. They are following to the T.
Again I get what you are saying. Obama sucks! We must be sure to not nominate someone who will continue the progression is what in saying. Another Progressive will regardless of party. Appreciate your thoughts.
Report Post »Tagudinian
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:02pmNewt Gingrich is a highly intellectual individual, has solid political credentials and savvy but who is mostly overlooked because the media paints him as flawed with too many warts. But lookout because like Newt said, “This is a wide open race for the nomination,” and no one is out of it by any measure. Newt Gingrich’s Contract with America is well thought out, substantive and cannot be boiled down to five-word slogans, bumper sticker quips, or numerical jingles. Newt is the thinking man’s candidate. If he ever is the one to face Obama, I feel sorry for Obama because Newt will eviscerate him even with his teleprompter on steroids. Newt will lay waste of Obama spilling Obama’s entrails for all to see.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:13pmTagudinian
I agree with you 100% I would love to see what would be a debate between Obama
Report Post »and Newt. Newt would not even need any notes… We would not even reconize the
Muslim in chief after Newt had chewed him up and spit him out….I have all the confidence
in the world that Newt would know how to get us out of the mess. He knows the process
and every bill that has ever gone thru. I think the man is briliant and would feel very
confortable with him. I think a Newt – Cain ticket would be great. I think Cain is very
smart and I think Newt would have him being a WORKING VP instead of just an orament.
I would love to see that. Both working.
joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:00pmI could never vote for romney…he’s obama-lite.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:25pmPaul / Johnson and maybe even Paul / Gingrich would be phenomenal for this country…
If we want to “Restore” it… Paul / Johnson / Gingrich are going to be the best advocates for that.
if we want to “Change” it, anyone else… all of them, pretty much, are talking “Executive” order this, and that…
Paul has stated that he will respect the Republic, always go through Congress (The People) and NEVER issue an executive order… that says everything. THAT is a person who respects “America”.
Johnson and Paul have honest records, true to what they say they believe. If that is their resume… then i have no idea why anyone would hire anyone else over them…
I’m mean, if your record says you’ve been voting in favor of bailouts, etc.. and here you are saying you don’t like that stuff, etc… then this other guy says he doesn’t like it either but his record shows he voted against it… isn’t the choice obvious here?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:10pmPaul is useless on foreign affairs….he doesn’t mind iran having a nuke…obama may not either, but I wouldn’t vote for either of them .
Report Post »arvadadan
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:58pmNEWT THINKS SO, Who doesn’t
Report Post »Oil_Ranger
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:56pmNEWT Rocks! The smartest man in ANY room he walks into. The ONLY candidate that could enter the Oval Office and know what to do from the FIRST day forward, the ONLY candidate that could reduce Obama to sucking his thumb in a fetal position in a debate! Would you pay to see that? I would too! And I have! Donate to Newt’s campaign today. Newt.org/donate
Report Post »Cheetosareus
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:01pmHe’s got my vote. We know what he can do because he did it in 1994. I refuse to let the left wing trash him with lies and inuendo.
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:53pmCain/Gingrich 2012
Report Post »Cheetosareus
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:59pmGingrich-Cain
Gingrich is the smartest man at the table and Cain has the most appeal.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:52pmMichelle Bachman is the smartest woman at the table. Yeah. A man-woman debate. Wouldn’t that just tear this country up? The first woman president and Hillary an also ran? I am woman hear me roar. Newt’s words were any candidate at the table would be better than Obama. Newts words with
Report Post »Nancy Pelosi on the loveseat were about working together to solve energy problem (the environment).Obamas words to his base were send 3.00 if that is all you can afford. 3×1 million =3 million. We should do the same for a candidate of our choice. Or send 9 for 999. Isn’t this fun?
The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:53pmI look at Romney and say, NOT EVER! There is no difference between Romney and Obama. None, except the speed of forcing the American collapse. Gingrich has some good ideas, but not as the president. VICE president, yeah I could live with that. He’d be a more useful idiot than Biden, because Gingrich actually has some substance of character and deals the cards for the most part from the top of the deck.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:01pmI beg to differ.. Romney is a God fearing man, whereas Obama serves someone else.. I believe anyone would be better than Obama including Mitt Romney.. he is a honorable man, he loves his country and I think he could fix the mess Obama has made! I think Romney and Cain or vice versa would be great!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:26pm@ abbygirl1994
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:01pm
I beg to differ.. Romney is a God fearing man, whereas Obama serves someone else.. I believe anyone would be better than Obama including Mitt Romney.. he is a honorable man, he loves his country and I think he could fix the mess Obama has made! I think Romney and Cain or vice versa would be great!
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I don’t really care what a persons religion is. I care what their politics are when matters of politics are the central determination applied to the original intent of the US Constitution and Nations Charter, explained thru the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers. Romney doesn’t align anywhere along those parameters of principles.
He may be a great family man, a devout practitioner of his faith, and generally and honestly, a good person. I don’t know him personally. I know him by the policies of politics that he adheres to and they are socialist in nature, and anti Republican governance according to the 4th Amendment, Article IV of the US Constitution. I don’t believe for a second that he would go back on the ever rising tide of government which forces a receding of individual liberty and the rights of the people.
I’d definitely hire him to manage my company though.
Report Post »Californiasodbuster
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:30pmYou can beg all you want girl, romney is just another yes man.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:55pmYou are seriously misinformed or not informed.
Report Post »Believer33
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:51pmCain! No, thanks…..
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