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Romney, Perry Spar Over Perry‘s Assertion That Social Security is a ’Ponzi Scheme’

Romney, Perry Spar Over Perrys Comment That Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme

Just minutes into CNN’s Tea Party Republican presidential debate Monday night, frontrunners Rick Perry and Mitt Romney sparred over Perry’s recent assertion that Social Security is unconstitutional and is a “Ponzi scheme.”

Romney, who stated that tens of millions of people have relied on the entitlement for over 70 years, asked Perry, “Do you still believe that Social Security should be ended as a federal program?”

“It’s time for us to get back to the constitution,” Perry replied, adding that after 70-plus years he did not believe Social Security would be outright abolished.

“We ought to have a conversation,” he added.

“We’re having that right now,” Romney said. “You’re running for president.”

Perry, who said the program is “broken” stated that he wasn’t the first to refer to Social Security a Ponzi scheme.

Romney pressed that “the term Ponzi scheme is what scared seniors” in the first place, and that it was “over the top, unnecessary and frightening to many people.”

Watch the two exchange blows below:

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  • Kathleen3
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:13pm

    I will never vote for Perry; however, I deeply resent Romney’s comment that “Ponzi scheme” frightened seniors. News flash to Romney: the days of using politically correct speech (lying) are over. From young adults to geriatrics Americans want honesty and the majority of them have long known that due to the embezzlement of Congressmen Social Security is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme. Unfortunately those legislators who stole from the SS fund will never suffer the same fate as Bernie Madoff.

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  • simply one voice
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:09pm

    Romney saying that “the term Ponzi scheme is what scared seniors” in the first place, and that it was “over the top, unnecessary and frightening to many people,” PROVES that Romney is untrustworthy, a watered-down version of the hard, cold Truth and cannot be trusted to tell Americans who have been through WWI (possibly), WWII, The Korean War, Vietnam, all the way To Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya that ROMNEY knows what’s best for anyone to hear when it comes to reality.

    This is “The Worst” of all politicians. Those that hold their cards to their chest and never give you the Truth straight and clean. I will NEVER vote for this man, ever, because of this character weakness and flaw. I wouldn’t go into combat with hime and I would NEVER trust him protecting my Six.

    You’re DOA with me right now, Romney.

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    • Tear Em Up
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:16pm

      Agreed, Romney plays the margins to gain support.

      http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_80_September_10th_2011.mp3

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    • neverending
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:24pm

      And me too!

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    • RLTW
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:29pm

      No question Romney is attacking Perry on the same thing he believes, what BS. I’m 49 and figure I’ll never see SS although I’ve been paying in since my first paper route at the age of ten.

      Fix it, I’ll suck up the pain but the POLs need to stop using it as their piggy bank.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:34pm

      I agree. Perry tells it like it is no matter what the cost. That is what I want in a President. The truth!!

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    • Azreal
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:36pm

      Shows Romney needs calcium suppliments to shore up his backbone.

      However, you have to remember that to be a true Ponzi scheme, you have to get into it voluntarily. Its called tyranny when you are given no choice, and it is sanctioned by the misuse of law.

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    • ccr
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:47pm

      You guys are something else!!!!!!!!!

      Perry LIED about his HPV experience! The CONSERVATIVE legislature told him to NOT do the exec order mandate………but he DID IT ANYWAY! The overrode him. He gave them HARSH words. He helped his buddy/lobbyist at Merck out with the TOO NEW vaccine mandate. Don’t LIE Perry about talking to the legislature! They told PERRY NO………..PERRY did it ANYWAY!

      Romney said………..QUOTE it HONESTLY, Perry……..that the GOV’T raiding the SS was wrong!!!

      If you want to VOTE/PROMOTE a GUY who will get EATEN alive in a general election against Obama………….YOU will need to stand up and accept the BLAME for another 4 years of Obama in the WH!! Romney KNOWS it NEEDS help!! He IS willing to find a solution for it………RATHER than JUST TALK TOUGH!!

      Mitt is calm and honest and factual. Perry is hot/emotional and slow of thought. He’s used to talk stir up the crowd. In fact…………here’s a GREAT clip from Glenn Beck in 2010!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3MnL8k7kdI

      My!! I think Beck has flipflopped!!! He promotes Perry so much……….. (I’m beginning to think it has more to do w/Beck’s pocketbook than the truth!)

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:58pm

      I think Romney did pretty well and he would get my vote if nominated. Perry lost a little ground with me. Newt did great as always but he has a DC funk all over him. Herman Cain is awesome but no chance. Paul, when he‘s right he’s right, but that’s infrequent. Santorem, can bore ‘em. Bachmann did pretty well but I just don’t feel it. Huntsman is running for VP.

      Romney has the best chance in the General Election of beating Obama. I think he has learned a few lessons and understands what is at stake and what we want in a candidate and President. He has the financial, leadership and executive experience to straighten out this economy.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:29pm

      So, Huntsman is running for VP? Good idea, if Obumbler replaces Biden with Huntsman, though, Obumbler will lose his “impeachment-proof” position. After all, who would impeach Obumbler when he would then be replaced by a brain cancer survivor? Many forget that Biden has had some of his BRAIN REMOVED — that explains volumes.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 2:49am

      I can’t believe you guys either. Perry accommodates Muslims and illegals, and that’s not political? Give me a break! Calling SS a “Ponzi scheme” is political suicide. Glenn can afford to say it; our presidential candidate cannot. Everyone wants to hear the truth, but there is no need to be visceral about it. We need to learn from the Word:

      “For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some.” (1 Cor. 9: 19-22)

      Was Paul a hypocrite? Absolutely not, but he knew how to talk to people in their own language, so they would open their hearts. It’s what God does too. A good presidential candidate will apply this godly wisdom to the political arena. It’s not about lying/sugar-coating issues. It means you don’t give seniors a heart attack when you tell them the truth about SS. If you can’t part with brutal and blunt, fine. Just don’t blame the weak when they clutch onto Obum for dear life.

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  • kenboo1
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:04pm

    Its a Ponzi scheme. No it isnt!!! Yes it is!!! No it isnt!!! Yes it is!!! No it isnt!!! Yes it is!!! No it isnt!!! Yes it is!!!

    WTF!!! Its insolvent does it really matter what we call it? So what are we gonna do about it?? Come on!!! We are looking for common sense and a simple outside the box solution(s)… There is going to be pain no matter how you look at it or what we do. We can ignore it and it will collapse or we can fix it and it will hurt, but we can fix it…

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    • Aloneonahill
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:21pm

      Not to say it is unimportant, but if the focus were taken off of the SSI issue and placed on the economic issue the latter may make the former more effectively manageable. Take your eye off the bouncy ball put in front of us and look at the behind the scenes regulations that are strangling our prosperity at every turn. This is compounded by the Feds monetizing our debt which is compounded by the use of corn as a fuel. This administration has created the perfect storm for U S failure. SSI won’t matter if we continue down the path we are on.

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    • conservative510
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:26pm

      Well said. Agreed. We can’t play ostrich with this one, anymore!

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    • kenboo1
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:27pm

      true!!!

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    • We are Americans
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Right on. I agree

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    • ccr
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:50pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3MnL8k7kdI I think Glenn’s perspective is very good!

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  • Boone2
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:59pm

    Bachman all the way !!!!!!!

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:06pm

      she may not be my first choice right now, but I think she did very well tonight

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    • kenboo1
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:06pm

      I agree… Lets make history!!!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:34pm

      @BOON@ Bachman all the way! I absolutely second that. I didn’t hear what her stance on illegal immigration was, but I researched it and she is for pulling benefits….Yes!!! As for Perry, he raised taxes for Texas in an obscene amount.and his heath care bites., leaves consumers footing a whole lot more of the bill. As far as Perry and Romney talking about Social Security.. it was voted in the Supreme Court that it was not a contract between the people and the government and that the government could do anything they choose. wth the money which is morally wrong and we should make them accountable , to reverse that decision and place that money in the coufer. As for illegals.we are spending 338.3 billion on them a year in the form of medicade, welfare and social programs, education just of primary and middle school, incarceration and them sending money back to their own countries. We need a change.Romney and Perry are pretty..but not good Presidential material.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:30pm

      I didn’t see the debate, but I am glad to hear that she did well.

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    • HeapingCoals
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:35am

      I totally agree with you, BOONE2. My head’s about to explode over the possibility of a Perry or Romney nomination. How could we possibly trust either one to carry the conservative water once in the White House? Perry would be using executive orders for “our own good”, allowing the borders to remain open, and giving ear to his former Democrat “buds”. Romney would be tweaking Obamacare instead of ridding us of it, and avoiding any major changes in the “third rail”. Heaven help us – we’re about to shoot ourselves in the foot AGAIN! I vote for a Bachman/Cain ticket or a Cain/Bachman ticket. We need someone willing to gut the system!

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  • banjarmon
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:56pm

    Bachmann is still my first choice,,,She ROCKS!!! Then Cain….The rest are RINOS!!!!!

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    • Snidely
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:30pm

      Seriously? Are you just trying to stir the pot or are you sincere? Huntsman qualifies, maybe Romney; but the others seem genuine in their support of the Republican platform.

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:12am

      I’m still favoring Bachmann and Cain, but Newt definitley scored some points with me last night… specifically when he owned Perry, Romnet and Hunstman at the same time!

      While the three of them were squabbling over how many jobs THEY created as governors, Newt reminded everyone that government doesn’t create squat. They get out of the way of the AMERICAN CITIZENS who, in turn, create jobs.

      Perry and Romney’s attitudes that *THEY* created jobs just goes to show they are just as Rhinoish as McCain, Graham and Snow.

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  • igetit
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:54pm

    Is anyone ever going to ask about Agenda 21?

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    • RLTW
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:32pm

      Great question! Although at this point anything that speeds up the revolution is fine to ignore with me.

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  • ZengaPA65
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:50pm

    Ron Paul 2012

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    • Aloneonahill
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:58pm

      A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama! Think about it, before you get all defensive.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:09pm

      Aloneonahill,
      If Ron Paul doesn’t get the nomination, the Paulbots don’t care if 0bama wins. They see all candidates who are not Ron Paul as equally bad and that includes 0bama. I have seen some of them say they hope 0bama does win just to punish us for not voting for Paul.

      Don’t think for a minute that those people are on the same team as we are.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:31pm

      QP
      Attacking and marginalizing the opposing position. How leftist of you. Your “conservative” actions are like good learned little sheeple. Little by little you have been swayed; you’re far too focused on “the left” and the “rino reps” to realize you are now one of them.

      You’re d*mned right we are not on the same team! Do you think you just made a point? You insult yourself, not “paulbots”.

      Saul Alinsky would be proud.

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    • Aloneonahill
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:02pm

      @ Dtom, Would you vote for RP knowing it would be a wasted vote? If so, are you willing to except the result of your decision and jeopardize the loss of rights that would result in such a self serving vote for the sake of “making your point”? I consider myself to be very objective, and I respect your position, but our country is at the edge of a crumbling cliff. If you have to choose, will you choose partially obstructed liberty or total socialism? Sorry, but this will ultimately be the only choices you have.

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    • Koz469
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:22pm

      Ron Paul consistently polls the est against Obama, he is the only one with a record of voting with the constitution. All the rest are neocons, none besides Dr. Paul are true conservatives. They all will keep us in the wars and continue the deficit spending. None besides Dr. Paul have a plan to significantly reduce the size of government. Perry and Romney are probably the worst.

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    • Aloneonahill
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:38pm

      KOZ. I get your points. Ron Paul’s base is not big enough to make him electable. I like Cain, and am in the same boat as you regarding base. Would you prefer socialism? The key is congress. I say, vote against socialist progressives, and make a step in the right direction. We need a group of people willing to turn back the oppressive regulations that have been put in place under the current administration. This is not a D or R thing. It’s a US thing

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 3:13am

      A conservative or libertarian has to be out of touch with reality to agree with the radical left and Islamists that we brought 9/11 upon ourselves. Paul doesn’t understand the first thing about Islam. That disqualifies him for the highest office in the land.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:02am

      DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator),
      Your comment clearly illustrates my point. Thank you.

      ABO 2012!!!

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    • noone222
      Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:58am

      Screw em all – Vote Ron Paul !!!

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  • We are Americans
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:50pm

    If congress didn’t continually borrow
    against the money in the fund then
    their would be enough money in
    there. Seriously folks, all these politicians
    want to do is get reelected. They’ll say
    anything to us and then go to their
    private areas and talk about their golf games.
    Watching debate now and the double talk
    is great. Anyway, if we can’t take care of our
    senior citizens who the heck can we take
    care if.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:39pm

    Two RINO’s taking part in the charade, taking the lemmings’ attention away from those candidates that will make a difference. So sad.

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    • TennesseeConservative
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:04am

      You knuckle heads who parrot the media. Think for yourselves these 2 are rinos. Paul can win if we ignore there elitist stance. Vote Ron Paul, let’s see what real change looks like. Vote for real senators and congress, vote farmers in, vote for real people. Stop being a lemming.

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  • mikenleeds
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:38pm

    Social Security is a government forced ’Ponzi Scheme’…
    if you don t know that by now you must really be stupid or a mental ill liberal

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    • kraphtsman
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:03pm

      You’re absolutely correct in your first point Unfortunately, the vast majority of current SSN pensioners don’t act out of any political or ideological sense when they vote… most of them grew up believing they “earned” the right to their Social Security benefits while they dutifully paid their “fair share” of taxes all of their working lives.

      The problem is, unlike other Ponzi scheme victims, they (and we younger workers, unless, of course, you’re part of a “priveledged” class of public-sector employees ) don’t have the option to stop making personal “investments” into the government run scheme. Mental illness has nothing to do with it.

      Those who deny the truth that Social Security is, IN FACT, nothing more than a (non-profit and arguably noble) government-sanctioned Ponzi scheme, are either ignorant or ethically DISHONEST when they deny it. Which includes the VAST MAJORITY of Democrats and their duplicitous members of government.

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:38pm

    The federal government and past presidents screwed up SS they saw the money sitting there and took it, our government greed is shameful.

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  • BibleGunClinger
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:31pm

    I totally agree with Gov. Perry on this. What torques me off is Romney saying that it scared senior citizens. If it does, then they are woefully misinformed. I can’t recall ANY Republican saying they want to cut off Social Security to seniors. There has been mention of anyone under a certain age (55-60, whatever it was) not getting it. I tell you what, I just turned 49, if I could get the worthless Social Security not taken out of my check tomorrow, I would gladly do it. It’s a joke and a total ripoff. It has worked just like the progressives wanted it to, making people depend on the government. C’mon people, you don’t need the governments help with this.

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:30pm

    Frankenstein versus Dracula.

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  • John 1776
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:30pm

    SSI was that. “Insurance” in case you lived too long and ran out of money. Never was on solid ground, but when it morphed into part of one’s “retirement planning” is when it became a ponzi scheme.

    It can be fixed, but ir must be modified in age and amount until it once again balances between income and payout. This may require it to return to a form of insurance in case you live too long.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:24am

      @JOHN1776 Social security was working until the Supreme Court voted to make it entirely subject to their disposal. The reason it did and would still be working and inflation would have taken care of it was because of the people still paying into it. Everyone acts as if one day their will be no one paying in..but if we keep it, that won’t be true. To young people, they think that they will have better alternative ways, but if left to their own devises, they may have nothing in their old age. Unforseen events can happen. There has been a changeover in our governmment. If you don’t believe me.. read Obama’s books “Dreams of My Father ” and “The Audacity of Hope” Obama is a Muslim…born and raised by to extremist radical political Muslims. He attended 2 schools in Indonesia, a madrassah, and a Catholic school. He was groomed for his positon. It would be well worth your while to check out the Muslim Brotherhood and their connections to the Whitehouse and the Arab Spring. The Islamic takeover is here. It happened in 2008..just 7 years after 9/11. There were approx 360 jobs open to them just after Obama’s election. Last count there was 2000 mosques built here..Obama imported more on our tax dime. We need a true leader, though I am not quite sure who that would be at this point. Remember that 338.3 billion is being spent on illegals. We need someone who will put that back in the till. It will eliminate our illegal problem. Watch Oskar Freysingers speech in Berlin. http://w

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  • TheTwinsMommy
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:29pm

    Social Security is a ponzi scheme, and any republican candidate that argues it is not will not receive my support. I want the truth. I don’t want talking points or poll-tested arguments. Any candidate that wants my support for president needs to be honest with me. And telling me that social security is NOT a ponzi scheme is lying to me.

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    • libertylover55
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 1:06am

      It is NOT a Ponzi scheme. Dick Morris was on Hannity today and told the difference between SS and Ponzi. Get on Hannity’s web sight and check it out.

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  • 1casawizard
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:24pm

    With the ponzi scheme the money that goes into it is voluntary. With S.S. it is MANDATORY. The end result is tho, the same.

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  • justquitsmoking
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:24pm

    I think the correct term is racket. You collect funds unwillingly and put it in a “trust”, then you borrow against the “trust” for projects, all the while telling the donor (victem) that they may see a return, but then again… they may not….. hey, fuggedaboutit.

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  • mr.goodvibe
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:20pm

    We can not afford to make another mistake America.

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  • Aloneonahill
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:20pm

    IMO These two are both establishment RINO’s Why else would our objective media portray them as the front runners for nomination? Equal time for “non-establishment” candidates would be nice. Cain and Bachman are being over shadowed by this circus of “top contenders”. We ‘much’ be lead to the pasture of liberalism under the guise of conservatism. Come on sheeple. Are we going to be led along like ignorant children again?

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    • TheTwinsMommy
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:31pm

      I agree with you. Already, it appears that the media is choosing our candidate for us again. I still support Herman Cain first. Second, I like Michelle Bachman. Apparently, neither is worthy of our consideration anymore? It really annoys me.

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  • hud
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:19pm

    Back before political correctness took over, eco and finance prof’s taught this doctrine of SSI being a Ponzi scheme or pyramid openly in the backward cow college I attended(guess it wasn’t so backward after all).

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  • mr.goodvibe
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:19pm

    After Obama it is hard to trust either one of theses progressive johny come lately conservatives.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:14pm

    Herman Cain is GOD’s man for AMERICA.

    Rick Perry is the only military presence on the platform. That is not to be taken lightly, folks, no matter what else is at play here.

    Michele Bachman is bright, lovely and sweet. She would be a good Veep, maybe, but not President.

    We need a “kicka ss”/ “take-no-prisoners” President who can right this SHIP OF STATE, and set us back on course.

    May GOD BLESS AMERICA and get us off our fat, ever-expanding backsides to take this country back! In JESUS’ name, amen.

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    • kenboo1
      Posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:26pm

      I think Michele would be great, so would Herman and Newt… The two front runners if they remain so would be lack luster and could lose to Obama but any of the Republicans would be preferred to what we have now… Just in case, we really need to focus on the Senate and House…

      I can not see Mr Huntsman as President and I would have to really hold my nose to vote for him much like i did last time for John McCain… I might not have voted last time had it not been for Sarah…

      I wonder how much of the military has worn off of Perry? I don’t have to have Ex military experience. I just need to see common sense, common decency, leadership and an appreciation for what the military does.

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  • therealconservative
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:12pm

    Who’s the liberal in the room Ron Paul. Libertarian = Liberal

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    • A Conservatarian
      Posted on September 13, 2011 at 12:48am

      You remind me of a retarded kid who was stumping for al gore back in the late 90′s. The kid knocked on my door to try and get support for his liberal candidate and I laughed and told the kid I was a Libertarian and to just move on. The kid said well the names are similar so I should support a liberal. Pfffft – ******. A Libertarian is further away from being a liberal than a conservative is, and your comment is about as ridiculous as saying our founding fathers were communists. No, wrong, our founding fathers had much more in common with today’s Libertarians than they ever will with any Conservative or Liberal.

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:10pm

    Let’s be clear: “Threats against Social Security” don’t scare “seniors”, they scare IDIOTS. For over 50 years, progressives have claimed that Republicans wanted to take away seniors’ Social Security. Not only is this an easily provable lie, but those who fall for it today were 12 years old when the tactic started being used. Those who have grown up and grown old and STILL believe the lies are simply IDIOTS.

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  • pmacres
    Posted on September 12, 2011 at 9:08pm

    The left is trying to make a huge deal out of this, they dont want perry they are afraid of him,,,he just wants to fix it,,,,yes its a ponzi scheme!!!

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