Ron Paul: 9/11 Victims Would Still Be Alive If ‘Paul People Had Been in Charge’
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Former Republican presidential candidate U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) speaks during a rally in the Sun Dome at the University of South Florida on August 26, 2012 in Tampa, Florida. (Photo: Getty Images)
Ron Paul chose to forgo the Republican National Convention in Florida this week, speaking instead at the University of South Florida to a group of his own supporters.
Buzzfeed captured video of the remarks, focusing on a segment where Ron Paul claimed that, had his people been in charge, thousands of victims from the 9/11 attacks would still be alive.
Paul was discussing foreign policy when he said: “Somebody… said the other day on the Internet, ‘if those Paul people had been in charge, Osama Bin Laden would still be alive.’”
The former presidential candidate countered with emotion: “But you know what I think the answer is? So would the 3000 people [killed] on 9/11, be alive!”
At that, the crowd roared.
Watch the clip, via Buzzfeed, below:
While Ron Paul has made an undeniable impact on the Republican Party in recent years, bringing it more towards the libertarian end of the spectrum, many are unnerved by the man’s foreign policy stance.
In a separate article, Buzzfeed’s Rosie Gray said Ron Paul supporters were talking “mutiny” in Tampa, upset that their man is not going to be the one on the Republican ticket.
Some say they will launch a write-in campaign for Paul, while others are starting to eye Gary Johnson as another leader of the libertarian movement.
Supporters of US Republican presidential contender Ron Paul react during his speech at a rally at the Sun Dome of the University of South Florida in Tampa, Florida, on August 26, 2012. (Photo: Getty Images)
However, while Paul has largely attempted to harmonize libertarians and Republicans, Johnson appears to be encouraging the opposite.
“I think what everybody has from [trying to be a part of the Republican Party] is a headache from beating their head against the wall,” Johnson said.
But Paul remains confident the Republican Party will eventually drift to his “tent.”
“We’ll get into the tent, believe me, because we’ll become the tent eventually,” Paul assured. “Once they know we are the future they will know about us.”
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Comments (895)
KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:02pmB-bye RP.
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:11pmtheblaze took a great speech and boiled it down to a 5 second generalization….Same thing MSNBC does
why doesnt theblaze report on his entire speech?
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:14pmRon Paul is a raging disaster. His worshippers are like Obama worshippers on steroids.
One man will not wave a magic wand and make all the country’s ills go away. Emporer Obama couldn’t do it, and Emporer Paul can’t either. I don’t care how benificent a dictator he is.
mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:17pmSOY- See Ron Paul has the same idea about the republican party as I do.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:21pmSOY-That does not change what he said.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:22pmlol, u can have ur dream. Dr Ron Paul has been taking to much of his own meds.
Report Post »LibertarianRevolution2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:23pmAmazing how what Ron Paul said flew over the heads of all the Neo-Conservatives. He wasn’t talking about if HE was in charge at the time. He was saying that if people LIKE him were in charge then 9/11 could have been prevented. Our foreign policy is to blame for 9/11. Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda. That is because they mind their own business and don‘t intervene where they aren’t wanted. The Middle East is a place beyond saving yet we keep getting involved in their business. We can’t help ourselves. At this point, we‘re addicted to war and that won’t change if Romney becomes President.
But yeah, war is a good thing, right? Let‘s keep sending young men over to the Middle East and have them killed just to fuel America’s addiction to war. God forbid America gets out of everyone else’s business and focuses on herself. I mean, we‘re going broke but let’s just keep paying for these bases overseas and getting involved in useless and undeclared wars.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:25pmPaulbot Bingo! update:
I‘ve gotten a ’RINO’ now, and I have about 3 ‘neocons’ and a dozen ‘blowbacks’.
I‘m still looking for someone to say ’agenda 21‘ or ’FEMA camp’ before I get my BINGO!…Paulbots, can ya help me out here??
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:27pm@Beanbomb
Report Post »Just where did Ron get his Crystal ball?
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:28pmYa’ll can watch the whole speech here. Starts around 20 minute mark
Report Post »http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Ron-Paul-Holds-Rally-in-Tampa-Fla/10737433373-5/
HOPEFORCHANGE
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:31pmUse to think Ron was principled and what drove him was to try and make a difference, even if I did not agree with all of his ideas. Now it is evident he is driven by his own ego. I wish he would just go away.
Report Post »termyt
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:42pmReally LibRev2012? Russia doesn’t have a problem with Islamic Extremists? What was that mess in Chechnya, then? Russia minds its own business? Please. Seems you have a very convenient memory. Do you know where the “shores of Tripoli” line in the Marines anthem comes from? Were Islamists attacking us then because of our stance in the Middle East? Seems to me we were the isolationists then you wish we were now.
They attack us because we aren’t them. No other reason.
Anyone who listens blindly to the rhetoric of a single position without question is no one in need of paying second mind to regardless if they are of Paul or of Obama.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:47pmI’ll raise your “Agenda 21” reference, but not as a “Paulbot”!
I brought it up in another post in response to someone’s “Under Paul there would be no blowback” arguement! But I argue if blowback exists, it would exist regardless of if Paul become president now or not! Because the arguement is that presidents have been screwing over the “indigenous people” for years, and that “blowback” is what we get in retaliation for America’s actions! If that is true, there is nothing Paul could do to change that fact!
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:50pmWatched his speech!! No wonder mitt and the boys are scared of him :) Paul is a great man. He is not the first great man that was ignored in his time. Dr. Paul has a history of being right. Love all the Love going his way.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:09amWhat in the hell is Paul smoking? His isolationist foreign policy to ignore anything and everything would of ensured nothing would’ve changed. Bin Laden still would‘ve attacked and we still would’ve done nothing to prevent it, so how in the hell does Paul think the outcome would’ve been any different with “people like him” running the show?
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:22am@hifi74
Report Post »You will have to go beyond the 30second snip to figure that out
http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Ron-Paul-Holds-Rally-in-Tampa-Fla/10737433373-5/
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:33amwell Ron Paul definately would NOT have invaded Iraq….So there is thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of injuries, and trillions of dollars saved.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:42amThe content entire speech does not change what he said.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:44am@HIFI74 Maybe you didn’t see the investigation into 9/11 utube “Fabled Enemies” and perhaps you didn’t see the Sibel Edmonds ( FBI translater) interview on 9/11 on whom a gag order was placed….And maybe you didn’t know that our government issued visas to the men involved and those men were trained at a naval base in Florida..or that Bush was briefed on it every day up until it happened..or that Sharia Compliant Banks(which fund organizations funding terrorism) received 700 billion in TARP rendering most likely those “terrorists” as mercenaries used turning America into a police state..starting neverending war.and ushering the Globalist Communist New World Order.. You probably didn’t know either that the Israeli Maasad followed the terrorists up to 9/11 getting “front row seats” as it were.. and high fiving each other after mission accomplished.. Lots of things you just don’t know.
Report Post »RevolutionChan
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:53amBecause the Blaze is total right wing, corporate, propaganda. Just like MSNBC is left wing, corporate, propaganda. They only do their bidding for the fascists in charge. The sad thing is, most of the idiots here eat it up like a fat kid at an ice cream bar.
TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:56amReminds me of the Missouri Akin—self before country. I am one Texan who is personally fed up and although he came to Texas years ago he is not a Texan. Pure and simple. He represents one district and is just another hack who stayed around too long–so what he believes in the Constitution. So do I. And so does Mitt Romney. And so do all those who participated in the Constitutional process to elect a candidate.
Report Post »We’ve had our primaries. Romney won. How hard is that? Romney won. The shouting hollering name calling bitter losers are not going to change that. A 77 year old Ron Paul is miraculously going to be the next President? Ye gods and little fishes!!!Dream on. That Constitution allows we all get one vote so just do it and shut up. Sheesh.
SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:57am“Amazing how what Ron Paul said flew over the heads of all the Neo-Conservatives. He wasn’t talking about if HE was in charge at the time. He was saying that if people LIKE him were in charge then 9/11 could have been prevented.”
It doesn’t matter “who” was in charge at the time… The “blowback” theory states that previous governments actions would have still influenced Bin Laden’s decision to attack the US. Unless you now argue “blowback” wasn’t a reason for it happening?
Of course, if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job, I suppose the angle would be that if Ron Paul people were in charge, there would be no American black op forces to detonate the explosives in the towers, to make it look like Al Queda took them down?
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:58amLibertarianrevolution2012 :
The terroirists do suicide bombings all over the world to countries that have NEVER occupied any of their countries, One thing Ron does not understand is islam, they attack because the koran and mohammed TELLS THEM TO. So I quess we should not have interviened in WW 2 and stopped hitler too ? isolationalists should join the democrat party
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:59amLooking at the majority of the comments here, this nation is getting what it deserves. There is so much blind ignorance here, its no wonder the best the republicans could come up with is a liberal dressed in conservative clothing. It was an insane foreign policy mixed with an equally insane monetary policy that has brought this nation to the brink, a brink that your fake conservative Romney offers no real solution to get us out of. In fact, he offers little more than the very same that got us here in the first place.
Report Post »An equally sad realization is the those of you here who call yourselves “conservatives” but have no clue as to what it is you’re supposed to be conserving. The United States Constitution is what we in the liberty movement are trying to preserve, what we in the liberty movement are passionate about. As Ron Paul is a constitutionalist, and has a proven record as being the such, of course we are passionate about him being our champion, he’s actually took his oath to protect and defend the constitution seriously!
So because of the ignorance displayed here by those who should know better, this nation will continue to fall and it will be sadly proven that this people got the government it deserves.
SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:31am“Looking at the majority of the comments here, this nation is getting what it deserves.”
If the nation getting what it diserves, remember you are part of that yourself, and will suffer for it as well as anyone else… We’ll all end up imprisoned or in mass graves if Obama wins election again…
There is always the chance that could happen under Romney too, but we have a better chance of putting his feet to the fire than we do with Obama…
Things will never be improved unless we clean up congress however…. Unless congress is cleaned up, we’ll never have the chance to clean up the executive branch…
United we stand, divided we’ll all hang…
I don’t support parties, I don’t support individuals (it breeds ‘cult of personality’), I only support ideas… Those ideas come from the constitution… We must always be vigilant.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:43amI. Love Ron Paul. If there were any Justice in this world. He would of been President a long long time ago. Truth is treason in an empire of lies. This man is the epitome of what a TRUE Statesman really is.
Report Post »Romney vs Obama…..what’s the difference?
Ron Paul 2012….The People’s Champ!!!
SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:54am“Romney vs Obama…..what’s the difference?”
Hyperbole much? Big difference really… Its pretty clear which is worse… As I said in another topic; It doesn’t take a rocket scientist.
One is perhaps naive, and has made mistakes in the past… He may have gotten better, but he’s always been pro-American and for the republic.
One is egotistical, thinks he is God, and wants to be a dictator… If we wins, it won’t matter what happens… We’ll all be locked up, tortured, and disappear…
In anycase doesn’t matter who you vote for, vote on principle fine,
What does matter, is united we stand, divided we fall…
Whoever, wins, we need to put fire to the president’s feet. Resist any unconstitutional actions… Even if that means we are locked away, never to see the light of day, or end up in mass graves… That will likely happen under current president, under a second term… Is that hyperbole? I’m not so sure anymore…
I think its less likely to happen under Romney, but still that doesn‘t mean it can’t happen. We must remain ever vigilent.
If anything, we must continue to clean up and reform congress, replacing it with better people… A strong, honest & true, congress can limit the powers of a bad president… But it will take all of congress with like-minded invidiuals to resist a bad president. If it is divided against itself it will fall.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:56amContinued…
Remember, until we the people take back congress, and put in true constitutionalists, there is less of a chance of ever putting in a better president. As long as a corrupt congress controls the ‘Electoral College”, the potential of corrupt presidents winning will always exist.
Reform congress, and we have a better chance of reforming the presidency.
We can‘t expect a ’benevolent‘ president to come in and ’reform’ the government for us, using executive power overnight… That is a form of ‘benevolent dictatorship” in itself. That would be resorting to the same actions that progressives have been using all along…
While a president could reverse actions through dictatorial executive orders, it would still leave open that the next president would go back to issuing new orders that reverses the previous presidents actions… No, the only way to make it more permanent is to reform congress, with like minded inviduals who are willing to use congress’s veto powers effectively. Who are also willing to impeach the president if he goes against the constitution.
Yes, we need to reform congress, and through them reform the executive branch…
We’ll also need to reform the judicial branch as well… Limit terms, etc. But that will also take time.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:44amThis?
http://gawker.com/5936394/the-bain-files-inside-mitt-romneys-tax+dodging-cayman-schemes?tag=gawker-exclusive
I don’t think its blocked… You probably just got the ‘delay’ post issue.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:15amScaredHonor, I am amazed, I have been trying to put that link on different stories, even by itself, about twenty or more times and nothing. It is not on delayed, I just thought The Blaze was blocking it. Maybe they are just blocking me? Not sure. Maybe they just do not like me and that is understandable as I can be infuriating sometimes.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:28amI don’t want to live on this planet anymore…
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You anti- Liberty idjuts will just keep coming up with any excuse you can reason in your own pathetic brains to keep a man with real goals and ambition for returning our nation to a Republic out of the office of President. So what if we will continue to receive “blowback” from a century of screwing around in the middle east and other areas for the foreseeable future? Does that mean it is okay for us to compound and further exacerbate the problems we were left holding the bag for? Seriously, if that is your argument, just leave. Furthermore, if real Libertarian men had held the highest offices in our nation over the last century, then Ron Paul is dead on saying that we wouldn’t have had thousands of people senselessly murdered on 9/11. Nor would we be worrying about a “nuclear Iran”. Oh, and we wouldn’t have wasted billions or trillions on covert attacks to provoke our so called enemies.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:51amThank you Blaze, for editing my Dr. Farnsworth. When I put a space at the beginning of a line, it is there for a REASON!
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:55amWhy don’t you live in the real world? The fact is we haven’t had libertarians or constitutionalists in the office in the last century… We have to face that reality, and move on from there, fixing the problem as we go into the future… Trying to live in a shoulda/coulda/woulda “what-if” past isn’t going to change that fact! It will only drive one insane!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:46amAnd a few “sheeples”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=009bzw7F6J0&feature=plcp
RepubliCorp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:01amSOYBOMB315_II
Report Post »“well Ron Paul definately would NOT have invaded Iraq” Agree! He will most likely be invading a nursing home soon. The old kook has never carried the ball. All Mouth……do nothing
dukielouie
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:10amWhy doesn’t the blaze look at the history of the US in the middle east. Look at what we did in Egypt? First we supported a dictator and now the muslim brotherhood is in power.Have we won any freinds in these countries? Osama Bin Laden was against the intervention of the US in these Muslim Countries.If we minded our own bussiness would he have killed 3000 people? Paul supported going into Afganastan not to stay for 10 years.The elite are trying to give us One World Order. After all Beck told us this on Fox when he played George H Bush saying someday we will have One World Government. The muslim countries are part of the plan for they want control of there resources.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:08amThe Middle East is important to America for one reason and its oil. As long as we remain dependent on oil from that area we’ll need get involved to protect that source from being disrupted.
Report Post »America has more than enough of its own energy related resources but we refuse to fully utilize them. Think of the jobs and revenue America could create if it made a real effort to become energy dependent.
Romney has proposed an energy independence plan and it is critical to our security, economy and Middle East problems.
Wildblue3
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:10amSoybomb – because those 5 min completely destroyed the spirit of the rest of the speech. There is a saying. One “Oh Crap” destroyed ten “Attaboy”. It applies out of the military as well
Report Post »JakeEllis
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:16amsoybomb. there is no reason to put any other nonsence this lunatic says other than the riidiculous statement he made. he is crazy, unelectable, and a problem. those who support this nut are the same.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:03amCrusaders are even more dangerous than Jihadists now because there mass murdering people with the troops in other countries while to so called Jihadists are not. Radical Christianity is more of a danger now than Radical Islam. Neo Cons are humanities greatest enemy right now, nobody is murdering and trying to take over peoples country and steal their resources like the neo cons are, radical christianity needs to end.
Report Post »KURT1010
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:04amWhat a NUT ! ! ! ! !
Report Post »Angry Redneck
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:08am@soyboob, What the hell you talking about, you and Paul smoking the same stuff, your both nuts, craw back under your rock Paulies….
Report Post »Treaty
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:17amRomney! Romney! He’s our man! If he can’t fix it nobody can! Goooooooo Romney!
/sarcasm
You Romney supporters are a bunch of clueless twits.
Report Post »Cadcamtrainer
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:20amWhat a freaking idiot this guy is. This is the reason the American people didn’t want to give him a chance to become President. I hate to say it but I will rather vote for Odumbo than this moron. And his “supporters” can’t see that this man is a lunatic??? What the hell is wrong with them??.
Report Post »Viper1
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:23amRon Paul has been in Washington for twenty five years. Does he have a single bill with his name on it. NO! He is a typical Washington politician. His lips are moving but nothing is coming out. One of these days those minions will finally get it, but I doubt it.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:29am@CircledWagons Bet they’re shaking in their boots alright. My gosh he probably could have stopped Hirohito and Pearl Harbor but wonder of wonders our grandads were not lucky enough to know him. He and Obama are on the same page though, they both believe without them we would surely wilt and die. I sure would quake if I were Romney and Ryan. Boo Hoo Boo Hoo. No reply please. Don’t have time for anymore nonsense.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:34am“…Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda. That is because they mind their own business and don‘t intervene where they aren’t wanted…..”
You exhibit a level of historical ignorance that is breathtaking.
- One of the most horrific jihad attacks in recent history took place in Beslan.
- China has been losing portions of their western territories to jihading muslims.
Both China and Russia have been forced to submit and cede territory to the jihading muslims for many long years. To say they violence is never visited upon these people by muslims engaged in Jihad is to completely ignore centuries of history.
Jihad IS NOT a response. Jihad is the mechanical process used, with great success, to spread Islamic culture and Sharia law. Jihad is used against all non-muslims.
Report Post »Angel_light
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:37amsoybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:33am
well Ron Paul definately would NOT have invaded Iraq….So there is thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of injuries, and trillions of dollars saved.
I don‘t like war so don’t get me wrong, but I think the war was inevitable and I’d rather the battle be fought over seas than here at home.
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:40amHere he goes again on his it’s our fault soapbox.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:44am@Angel_light
Report Post »Yea, invading the US was at the top of their priority list….
H Beale
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:45amTypical RINO/NEOCON response. You folks have become your own worst enemy as you continually play into the hands of brain dead liberals. I can (with nearly 100% accuracy) predict the attacks on Ron Paul and anyone else on the right who does not fall in line with the establishment rhetoric du jour. You play into the endless mind game of political partisanship and you make the political process itself an absolute joke. Your lack of understanding, your rush to judgement and your overall lack of humility is sickening.
Wallow in the world of Mitt if you wish. Adore him as the liberals adore Obama so that you can also become the laughing stock of the world. I have no intention of voting for someone whom the media has told me I MUST vote for. And personally, I don’t give a dang about the continual “a vote for anyone other than Mitt is a vote for Obumbler” BS. In my opinion, they are both the same.
Enjoy your Ron Paul hating rampage NEOCONS, it should entertain your mentally and morally constipated brain matter for a couple of days. It’s too bad you could never see the forest for the trees. It’s too bad that you (as well as the liberals) have become lemmings to a two party system. It must hurt to be so mind numbingly willfully ignorant.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:47am@thewatcher93
“Here he goes again on his it’s our fault soapbox.”
Well, really he is saying its YOUR fault for compromising your votes for so long and electing progressive republicans who do not defend the Constitution and antagonize the rest of the world. The reason people have such a knee-jerk reaction against Ron Paul is because he speaks the truth – and the truth is never popular when you are in the wrong
Report Post »Independent4ever
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:30amThe Blaze is not what it use to be. It bought into the Bush-Karl Rove-Cheney agenda.
Report Post »Zadok
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:33amWow, can the blaze be any more dishonest when it comes to Ron Paul?
“Ron Paul chose to forgo the Republican National Convention in Florida this week, speaking instead at the University of South Florida to a group of his own supporters.”
Actually he didn’t chose to forgo the RNC… the RNC chose to break it’s own rules, change them, and not allow Ron Paul the allotted time he deserves according to convention rules. But you won’t report that will you? How the GOP blocked delegates, got him down to 5 states, then change the rules, etc. You’d rather whine “anyone but Obama” for a guy who’s past policies and ideas are just like Obama. NDAA, patriot act, bail outs, universal health care, progressive, etc. Yup Romney is different…
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:35am“While Ron Paul has made an undeniable impact on the Republican Party in recent years, bringing it more towards the libertarian end of the spectrum”
What is the author smoking? Ron Paul hasn’t made ANY noticeable impact on the Republican Party. The establishment still rules it, and while they’ll point to Ron Paul as an example of their fiscal priorities, they ignore everything he says and look after their own interests in the end. Why do you think Romney is the candidate? Does any part of him say “libertarian?” Heck no: he’s big government through and through.
Ron Paul (and his supporters) have done more to show the discord under the “big tent” of the GOP than to actually change the party itself. If there’s any change, it would be that more people call themselves “conservatives” rather than “Republicans” now, because the Republican Party so often falls short of its fiscally conservative promises.
Report Post »fordfan
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:38am@soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:11pm
why doesnt theblaze report on his entire speech?
Cuz, somewhere along the line you have to realize, especially with the Ron Paul crap, it’s absolutely a waste of time.
Report Post »Altair
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:54am“Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda. That is because they mind their own business and don‘t intervene where they aren’t wanted. ”
- LibRev
You know some stuff, don’t you. Do the names “Beslan” (300 Russian children executed by Muslims) or “Nordost” ( hundreds of Russians killed in the middle of Moscow by Muslims) ring a bell ?
Ron Paul has excellent ideas on monetary policy. And the Iranians think he has excellent ideas on their nuclear policy.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:55am@fordfan
Report Post »but here you are…
Will4Freedom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:56amWhen I used to go to Newsvine to have intelligent political conversations, I got so frustrated at the liberals who would bash anyone who did not believe the way they do. Insults, name calling and even wishes of extermination from the so called “tolerant” liberals.
I really didn’t expect to see that kind of stuff from Blaze people. I used to watch Beck’s show sometimes and he seemed pretty reasonable, although I did catch him stretching the truth a few times. So I signed up to the Blaze.
Early on, things were much better than Newsvine. But it seems now, that these people claiming to be God fearing conservatives have just as much intolerance and hostility toward people who don’t think like themselves.
And bring Ron Paul’s name into it and the hostility raises a few more notches. I don’t understand the hatred, but whatever. If that’s what being a conservative is about, count me out. It seems to me these conservatives look down their noses at you unless you have THIER brand of conservatism… which is little more than the standard GOP platform with a little less spending.
If I’m not welcome here because I believe in Libertarian standards of Freedom, you’re not hurting my feelings. It‘s sad that I’m now in a minority, though. Sad for the country.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:56am@TEXAS GRANNY Maybe it would serve you well to educate yourself Granny..Romney is a con..but he is anything but a Constutionalist. You might want to compare what a man says with his actions. Romney says only what is expedient at the time..He.. just like Obama,,is owned by the banks..whose boss is the un Federal Reserve..Both of these men take their orders from them…If you knew the Bible..you would realize that this is a war between God and Satan…and there are no Christian men running for President..This is their boss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJy4gSG8Q3w
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:18am@Will4freedom
“It seems to me these conservatives look down their noses at you unless you have THIER brand of conservatism… which is little more than the standard GOP platform with a little less spending.”
This is true. There are two groups in the GOP with very different priorities. This roughly boils down to social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. Social conservatives are the very loud, very emotional portion of the party. They’re inherently big-government, but the difference between them and Democrats are what KIND of government they want. Cutting spending is not a priority: it’s spending “on the right things” that matters to them. This portion of the party has been in control for years, and Romney’s their candidate this season.
On the other side you have fiscal conservatives who believe in small government and balanced budgets. They don’t think the government has a place to tell people how to act: they’re for the freedom of the individual to decide (even if those choices may harm the person). You’re likely part of this group.
Unfortunately, the GOP doesn’t have much use for your ideas, only your vote.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:22am@viper one. You Wrote..”.Ron Paul has been in Washington for twenty five years. Does he have a single bill with his name on it. NO! He is a typical Washington politician. His lips are moving but nothing is coming out. One of these days those minions will finally get it, but I doubt it”
Report Post »Ron Paul has spent his entire time trying to defend the Constitution and our Civil Liberties..For instance..at the beginning of this year..Congress enacted 44 thousand new laws..Are you upset because Ron Paul had nothing to do with that? Ron Paul appealed the NDAA in which the government could pick you up..just like they did to Brandon Ruab and place you in a mental institution for voicing your beliefs..Ron Paul appealed that bill.. as unconstitutional and a Federal Judge found it to be un constitutional..even though the Obama administration refuses to answer a Federal Judge on whether this illegal bill is being enforced..Mitt Romney supports this bill in which .they can pick you up and legally kill you..
ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:50am@ALTAIR.. You wrote..”You know some stuff, don’t you. Do the names “Beslan” (300 Russian children executed by Muslims) or “Nordost” ( hundreds of Russians killed in the middle of Moscow by Muslims) ring a bell” ?
Report Post »Does Hitler killing 6 million Jews ring a bell.? Does the fact that due to our Central Banks controlled media..you may never have heard that he also killed 7 million Catholics.Christians.dissidents,,union workers..gypsies..gays ,handicapped..did you? And you may not know that the Rothschilds of the un Federal Reserve were behind it,,or did you? And you may not have heard that the Rothschilds were behind the Bolsheviks who killed 20 million Russians..or that they have started our wars and financed all sides..or that Sharia Compliant “Banks’ that fund Romney and Obama received 700 billion in Tarp..and that those Islamic :terrorists are nothing more than mercenaries used as political pawns for foreign policy just like Henry Kissinger said of our military men..”Military men are dumb stupid animals used as pawns in foreign policy.“ And ”When the New World Order is Established..many will die..but it will be a better world for those who survive.“ There are ”deals” made all the time..And they may be planning to use Islam as the one world religion because of its willingness to kill and control..but there are those who pull the strings.For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darknes
black9897
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:58amI’m starting to think all this hate for RP is from BO loving trolls.
Look, hate him all you want but don’t bring lies into it.
He’s NOT an isolationist. He simply wants to do like we are supposed to..mind our own business. Strengthen our defense here at home and stop with the wars.
Say one man can’t fix things all you want, I agree. But don’t then turn around and talk about how Romney will get us on the right path.
The fact is he’s been right on a lot of stuff. His ideas our consistent and constitutionally sound.
Report Post »Kafir-Islamsux
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:02amThe more I hear wRong Paul’s voice, the more I am convinced this man is clinically insane. The more I heard from his cult-like followers, the more convinced I am of their antisemitism and racism…not to mention their true liberalism.
Report Post »dogday
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:02am@libertarianrevolution2012
You should really bone up on your history–it‘s scary that you’re allowed to vote! Russia minds its own business? Really? Ever heard of World War II? Berlin? Poland? Czechoslovakia? Cuba? Afghanistan? On and on and on. Ask the Chinese how they feel about their government minding its own business! Tienanmen Square sound familiar? Human rights? Aborted baby girls?
Do you know what political prisoners are? I didn’t think so.
I know that having legalized drugs is at the top of your list and it shows.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:12amRon Paul, moonbat extreme.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:15am@soybomb315_II:
I am a die-hard conservative who puts Jesus Christ FIRST and yet Ron Paul makes a LOT of sense, even to me. However, since SOMEONE from the left and the right has labeled him an EXTREMIST, he will never ever get anywhere, even though IN MOST THINGS, HE IS TRUTHFUL.
Look at Charlie Crist. He claims to be a Republican Conservative, yet he backs Obama for re-election. CRIST IS NO REPUBLICAN, NOR IS HE A CONSERVATIVE. He is an INFILTRATOR, WHICH IS WHAT PROGRESSIVES DO. And, Americans need to know this and VOTE CRIST OUT OF OFFICE. Just kick his butt out.
Americans need to stand up to these idiot politicians who want to destroy America subtly and slowly while no one is looking. THEY ARE DOUBLE-MINDED, as the Bible says.
I have to tell you, after seeing 2016 by Dinesh, I am stunned that so many Americans were duped into believing Obama. I rely on the Holy Spirit to guide me in every way and I KNEW BACK IN 2006-2008, AND ESPECIALLY 2007 when Obama was stomping for the Presidency, THAT OBAMA WAS A LIAR AND GUIDED BY THE OPPOSITE SPIRIT, SATAN. I KNEW IT AND TRIED TO TELL EVERYONE I KNEW. However, those persons who do not know the Lord or who do, but do not serve Him on a daily basis, NEVER SAW IT COMING or denied that OBAMA WAS ANTI-GOD.
Yes, the Holy Spirit told me that Obama has/and still does have demon spirits. If you don’t see it, then you’d better get down on your knees, now and ask the Father for HIS guidance and forgiveness!
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:19amUgh.. Move the argument through philosophy, not the hypothetical or the utilitarian arguments. Don’t play their game. The Anti-Paulers certainly don’t get media attention for saying disgusting things like “Ron Paul would not have killed Osama Bin Laden”. Which of course is absurd and hypothetical.
I don’t agree with libertarians moving the argument by using deaths of soldiers, horrific events or any type of incident to further their cause. That is what liberals do, libertarians need to further the message by bringing about the philosophical argument.
I support, I was a county coordinator and a state delegate for Ron Paul, but I disagree with his argument.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:24amFor all of you who are bashing Paul…what does it feel like to be duped into believing in a foreign policy that is much closer to that of Obama’s and the CFR, than that of Jefferson, Washington, and Adams?
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force….
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit….
[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the r
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:25am@LibertarianRevolution2012
“Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda. That is because they mind their own business and don‘t intervene where they aren’t wanted.”
Really genius? I guess you forgot about what happened in the 80′s when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan and fought there for 8 years. Either you have a terrible memory or you are too lazy to do your homework.
Cowards all of you Ron Paul supports. If a Libertarian was in office in the 30‘s and 40’s, there really would have been a “Thousand Year Reich.”
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:26am@Kalish
Don’t waste your time.
You’re just arguing with a brick wall when it comes to trying to talk sense into a Ron Paul supporter. Most of them are Truthers anyway.
Report Post »Whirling Dervish
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:28am@ soybomb
its called: “Agenda”
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:29am@Captain77
So I guess then you’ll be voting for President Obama? Good luck with that.
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:31am@Treaty
Then what are Barrack Obama supporters?
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:33amLibertarianRevolution2012, you said: “Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda.”
If you happen to read this, may I say you’re an idiot. Read PRAVDA regularly. Russia AND China — as well as India and others in that region–are constandtly expierencing Al-Qaeda attacks. OUR press doesn’t report it unless a theater in Russia is attacked, or a hotel in India is attacked (reulsting in dozens of deaths). There‘s not been a month go by that at least one attack hasn’t been launched. Read foerign papers and you’ll get the whole picture.
Report Post »Our foreign policy isn’t responsible for 9/11. The Muslim religion is
Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:42am@ERP
That’s quite the time machine you have in your imagination. Who was worse…Hitler or Stalin? You would have backed Stalin…correct? Hhhhmmm. How well has that worked out for you? What does your magic time machine tell you would have been the outcome if we had listened to the founder’s wisdom, instead of yours?
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:53amI seem to recall someone once saying over and over “The truth will set you free, but first its really going to piss you off.” Now who was that…..?
Oh, yeah….GLENN BECK.
hypocrite.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:02pmpolitics cannot make a bit of difference,nor change anything that has happened in the last 50 years, or in the next few. The people who are running the show, are above all the politics, for they have ALL the money and ALL the power. Obama is in the place he is because he is the CHOICE of the “prince of this world.”
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:21pm@Kafir-Islamsux
Report Post »First off I am all for Israel, and you do realize you are using the exact same pathetic racist attacks that the left uses on their opposition…right? Second, your position is much closer to that of Obama’s and the CFR than it is to the founding fathers, so what does it feel like to smear John Adams, George Washington, Jefferson…ect, while you support Obama’s foreign policy?
LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:22pm@Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:42am
@ERP
That’s quite the time machine you have in your imagination. Who was worse…Hitler or Stalin? You would have backed Stalin…correct? Hhhhmmm. How well has that worked out for you? What does your magic time machine tell you would have been the outcome if we had listened to the founder’s wisdom, instead of yours?
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It’s pretty childish to assume someone would choose Stalin over Hitler or vice versa. Then again, the whole Ron Paul “Revolution” can only be thought up by a child like mind frame.
But let’s get back to your post. Since you are so hard core Libertarian, I’ll repeat the sentiment that @ERP stated that you are a coward when it comes to seeing and dealing with evil in the world past, present and future. Appeasement for everyone is your motto, correct?
Let’s just isolate ourselves til the world caves in on top of us. Yea, that’s makes a whole lot of sense.
Why don’t you get into that said time machine and take your politics of cowardliness and get lost.
Report Post »Girard1974
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:23pm@soybomb315_II
Regarding your query as to why the Blaze or any other news media don’t cover Ron Paul more closely (rather than just five minutes of his speeches), it’s simply because Ron Paul is insignificant. He doesn’t (and has never) stand a chance to become the President of the United States. In spite of those who would rather split the Republican Party (thus handing Obama another victory), the focus should be far away from the esteemed Dr. Paul and more on the presumptive nominee Mitt Romney. Now is not the time to continue with the infighting; it’s time to get together to ensure a Republican victory in November. Ron Paul is NOT the key to that victory.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:43pm@LookTowardsTheLight
You just don’t get it do you… By no means was I claiming to know what would have happened, whereas your comrade implied he did. That is about as childish as it gets. Oh, and we did indeed side with Stalin…like it or not and we are paying the price for that even to this day. That’s just a fact.
Given your ridiculous accusations of cowardice, you have accused John Quincy Adams of being a coward, as well as the vast majority of the founding fathers.
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
The reality of the matter is your version of a good foreign policy is much closer to that of Obama’s than the founders of our republic. If that’s not enough to wake you from your own NWO nightmare, nothing is.
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:47pmYou guys deserve leaders like Obama and Romney. When this economic house of cards collapses because fools like you keep electing them you’ll have no one to blame but yourselves. You can trash talk Ron Paul all you want but deep down you know Romney will do NOTHING to decrease our debt or our spending.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:54pmThis discussion proves only one thing: That 99% of you blazers don’t know what time it is. It also shows that you don’t realize that “we the People” have lost our sovereignty. We do not manifest our destiny. Our destiny is being written by a small group of elites with no cause or reason to listen to anyone.
Obama is in the place he is because he was chosen to lead us into the NWO. Judas goat of Judas goats. There is nothing we can do, now. If you think you can change anything, then, you do not Know the enemy or his royal authority on this plane of existence. The prince of this world is a destroyer, A reptile minded, black hearted. intellectual with an all consuming hatred of the Lord, and all who love Him. This devil has all those whose names are not in the book of life. and has accrued all their power unto himself. He requires total loyalty and all to worship him.. He is immortal and will not go away. Nor, is there anything we can do ,on our own, against him. Give up the faith you have in any man and put that faith in Jesus, the .Christ. That is the last stand you will make.
Holy Father, give us the courage to claim salvation in these times of darkness. To acclaim the power of the Holy Spirit. To stand against our accuser. To take the truth of Jesus, and his resurrection to our own trials. Help us retain your blessings to the end. In the precious name of Jesus, Yashua, the Christ and savior. Amen
Report Post »ertdfg
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:01pm“Our foreign policy is to blame for 9/11. Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda.”
You’re right, if we had lost WW1 or WW2, or even let Russia control the world and avoided the cold war we could have been conquered and never had to worry about al Qaeda…
Why didn’t I see it. By capitulating and letting someone else control us we could be safe… the safety and peace of SLAVERY.
What a great plan you have there; why not run out RIGHT NOW and sign up to be the slave of some psychopath in any third world nation to keep you safe.
I‘m surprised you haven’t already done so since you’re so certain that defending freedom, liberty, and independence aren’t worth bothering with.
Report Post »mikec711
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:12pmWhile the comment was taken out of context, I don’t see Dr. Paul’s logic. If some foreign nation that we hated attacked us, took over, set up military bases, and a puppet government, and ran our country from their capital … people would not be upset and would not hate that foreign power. As a matter of fact, if that nation killed enough of us with cluster bombs et al … then we’d really love them. That type of stuff does not make people want to harm us.
Interesting that the only veteran in the whole presidential field, the one with more veteran support than the rest of the field, is attacked by the “patriots”. “patriots” (in quotes) is for those who have never served, and yet are sure people they do not know must be sent into harms way. They believe that “supporting the troops” means getting them killed and feeling bad about it during the commercials on American Idol. Veterans call these “patriots” … Chair-Borne Rangers. For any VFW out there, feel free to speak your peace. For those who did/do not serve and don’t have immediate family serving (coWorkers nephew does not qualify as immediate family), but are sure “brave” strangers have to die so you feel patriotic … think about it a little.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:25pm@Freedomluver
“Given your ridiculous accusations of cowardice, you have accused John Quincy Adams of being a coward, as well as the vast majority of the founding fathers.”
Excuse me bud? Have I met your sorry @$$ before? Look at all my previous posts and tell me when I accused any of the Founding Fathers of being cowards.
Yea, I thought so.
It would be pretty ridiculous to even make such a claim considering they were ready to fight the British Empire.
On a side note, it’s funny you used the word “comrade” when referring to @ERP. I get it, if you’re not drinking the Ron Paul Kook-Aide then you must be a Communist. Pffft.
BTW, I do get it. All this ranting and raving all boils down to one thing. You’re a sore loser. Your boy Paul didn’t get the nomination….again. You can blame the “Republican Establishment” all you want but when it comes down to it, if “We The People” wanted to nominate Dr. Paul, then “We The People” would have given him the delegates necessary to do so.
I’ll give you that he would make a fine Secretary Of The Treasury though…
Report Post »CRJ
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:31pmWOW so much hate for someone that has kept his Oath of Office. Ron Paul should be loved here.
Report Post »in a place that teaches so much of what the founders wanted and fought for.
Glenn Beck said he agrees with Ron Paul 95% this is the same with most of the talk show people.
yet we know you would rather support Mitt Romney because you are told to support him. even if we only agree with Mitt 30% of the time.
CRJ
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:37pmGlenn Beck said he agrees with Ron Paul 95% this is the same with most of the talk show people.
Report Post »yet we know you would rather support Mitt Romney because you are told to support him. even if we only agree with Mitt 30% of the time.
just this year I have see so much evil out of the RP (republican party) and the more I learn about Ron Paul the more I see he is the only one we should be voting for. but cannot understand why people do not look this stuff up. Glenn Beck you lost a lot of respect you have done the same to Ron Paul, as all the media has done.
why are you not talking about the RNC and how they have been changing the rules just to kick Ron Paul out? this is something big that everyone needs to know about. this is an evil we need to destroy by exposing it.
look for the youtube video “GOP Establishment Fears Ron Paul Upset at the Convention” Ben Swann Reality Check takes a look at how the RNC is attempting to Cheat.
Pauln
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:38pmDidn’t he had a connection with Soros, Barney Frank and other 11 Soros’s related “employees” ? I’ve never trusted him, never will, he always seem to me like a convenient distraction and divider, just my opinion.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:40pm@ertdfg
What a bunch of ridiculous strawmen.
Are you claiming to know how the world would have turned out if we had stayed out of “foreign entaglements” as the founders directed us to do?
If so, would you please share your crystal ball with the rest of us?
I have no desire to be anyone’s slave, nor would I tolerate it as those on my side demand to have the strongest military on the planet, so those who hate us will live in fear of what would happen should they actually attack us.
The solution to Bin Laden was to use the provision in the Constitution known as the Letters of Marque, not to invade a tiny nation and then occupying it for years to no avail.
As for defending freedom, your willingness to vote for a candidate who is all for shredding the Bill of Rights in the name of so called security is proof that you are no friend of the Constitution. A vote for Romney is a vote for the DHS/TSA, the so called Patriot Act, and the NDAA that allows Obama to arrest you with ZERO evidence and with no right to a trial.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:42pmSays the user who just joined today. You know who you are
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:59pm@LookTowardsTheLight
You obviously are ignorant regarding the foreign policy position of the founders of this nation, as what you advocate is the exact opposit of what they plainly stated.
You call others cowards for simply agreeing with the founding fathers and by doing so, you call the founders cowards as well. Does that really go over your head?
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
I chose the word “comrade” on purpose as it fits your side quite well. You are playing right into the hand of those who push for a NWO, and they have no interest in individual liberties, as they seek to push us all into one big “global community”. The fact that you can’t see this only proves how blind you really are. You are being used by collectivists to further their globalist agendas.
Now, would you care to quote any of the founding fathers in support of your foreign policy position? You do know your position is much closer to that of Obama’s than Adams…right?
Report Post »ItsJo
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:34pmBye is right. While Dr.Paul is an intelligent, out spoken person with Some good ideas, he has another side, that is ‘like the crazy uncle locked in the attic”. His remarks a while ago: “Iran Should have nuclear weapons – We Do”. What? Iran HAS threatened to ‘wipe Israel off the map, And the West’.
Report Post »He says nutty things like this, that have to make us wonder about his mental state. IF Dr. Paul Really does want a Republic that abides by OUR Constitution, then he is NOT off base as are Many of the GOP/Conservatives. It is HOW the nation is run into the ground by the Crooked Obama Regime, and he should want Obama REMOVED, as we do, and come together with someone that IS capable of doing that at present time. NOT DIVIDE OUR PARTY, BECAUSE HE’S NOT GOING TO RUN AGAINST OBAMA. He should be telling HIS followers, to get behind someone who ACTUALLY CAN WIN-ROMNEY. With all due respect, Dr.Paul is a white-haired, career politico that is being “SET UP”
by ther Liberal Media, to ‘INSURE A WIN FOR OBAMA”….JUST AS THEY SET UP, McCAIN, WHO LIKE PAUL, HAD “NO CHANCE OF WINNING”. THINK ABOUT THAT FOLKS- A SET UP. OBAMA
WOULD BE INSURED ANOTHER WIN AS McCAIN AND PAUL LOOK ANEMIC UP AGAINST OBAMA, AND THE MEDIA “KNOWS IT…..QUESTION IS, WHY DOESN’T DR.PAUL KNOW IT?”
Vegasdad702
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:43pmPAT & STU- I love you guys and listen faithfully everyday if I can, however you guys insulted your audience today as you have MANY other times and I am going to speak up about it. You played the Ron Paul audio and said in a kermit the frog voice that Quote- “Ron Paul supporters all say- Well your just a Neocon practicing Neoconservatism and stuff!”. First of all YOU HAVE EXPOSED NEOCONS AS PROGRESSIVES YOURSELF MANY, MANY TIMES! Do you think so little of your audience to suggest we are so STUPID that we don’t know what you have said in the past?? We hang on your every word, and MANY of us will follow ANYTHING you say because we RESPECT you so much. Key word RESPECT! This mornings typical Pat & Stu response to Dr. Pauls comments show just how LITTLE you RESPECT your listeners!! I have NEVER spoke ill of the Blaze, Pat and Stu, or Mr. Beck in my life but it is becoming more and more clear that there IS AN AGENDA and I can’t defend this kind of STUFF ANYMORE. PLEASE HAVE MORE RESPECT for your audience!! We are aware of the LIES and PROPAGANDA that has fueled MOST of our wars and problems over seas. I am NOT saying that there aren’t bad guys out there, but you are NOT being HONEST about what Dr. Pauls message or statements was really about. Unless you don’t understand it, which I KNOW YOU DO! I will continue to listen, but you can’t fool me ANYMORE about your misrepresentation on this topic. God Bless and PLEASE PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH! THANK YOU SIRS.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:51pm@Freedomluver
I’m sorry, did you say something?
I was busy with having a life.
Report Post »stegokitty
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:56pmI see no problem in what Ron Paul said.
Report Post »He’s basically right.
If RP people were in place, we wouldn’t be taking sides with Israel on matters that have nothing to do with our country. And therefore, the Islamofacists would have little to no reason to give a crap about the USA.
Smoovious
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:59pm@Kalish… “So I quess we should not have interviened in WW 2 and stopped hitler too?”
First off, you automatically lost your argument by invoking Hitler, but I’ll let that pass this time…
We did not “intervene” in WW-II… Japan directly attacked us, and we declared war, and joined the war full-bore. That wasn’t at all an “intervention”. We didn’t meddle, we didn’t **** with their countries, we went to war which was duly declared.
That said, if you can’t even grasp the difference between going to war in WW-II, and our meddlesome interference in the middle east? There is no hope for you, and you should find something else to waste your time on, because politics, just isn’t one of your strengths.
– Smoov
Report Post »ghendric
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:11pmAnd all the sheeple bleated in unison…..baaaaaaaaa!!! We will be the first ones eaten in the upcoming apocalypse! Oh save us somebody! If only we had voted for the right guy but instead we let the new media tell us who to vote for and let them sway our better judgement! (baaaaaaaaa!) (baaaaaaaaa!) (baaaaaaaaa!) (baaaaaaaaa!) help us!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:23pm@ItsJo
Just wondering, do you support Romney’s policies before he ran for President? Abortion/flipped. Healthcare/flipped. Bailouts/flipped. What on earth leads you to believe that he’s not just telling you what you want to hear, since his real record does not support his rhetoric? You take one quote from Paul and then turn that into something that does not match his record. Did you know that when Israel bombed Sadam’s nuke operation, Paul was alone in voting to allow Israel to do so? Israel should be free to pursue what they deem necessary for their own interests, and Paul would not stand in their way. One more point, Romney is no friend of the Bill of Rights, as he is all for the DHS/TSA, the NDAA that allows Obama to arrest you with no charges or right to a trial, and is on record in support of the so called Patriot Act that spits on the Bill of Rights. A vote for Romney is a vote for the NWO and a freedom destroying police state, just as a vote for Obama is. Don‘t be fooled by a wolf in sheep’s clothing. You are being offered 2 sides of the same coin, and the only real difference is their rhetoric.
Report Post »onshidesigns
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:43pmThey did not attack us for no reason.
Paul is simply saying if we didn’t have so many permanent military bases all over the world. People in those regions would not have any reason to attack us.
We do not need permanent military bases all over the world. When we can just build a temporary bases in weeks, as needed.
Report Post »Kalidor835
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:17pmThis just shows how out of touch Ron Paul actually is when it comes to history. We’ve had issues with Muslims in the Middle East going all the way back to the Jefferson administration. The first foreign war fought by the US military against someone other than the UK was against Muslim pirates in North Africa which is why Tripoli is mentioned in the Marine Corps Hymn. Dr. Paul needs to wise up.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:22pm@kickinback:
FEMA Camps. Agenda 21.
Happy?
Now, sit down and let adults discuss matters which clearly fly neatly over the top of your puny cranium.
Thanks.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:25pm@Granny:
Take a look at how Willard McBain (donut if you can place THAT reference…) is securing his nomination.
Tell me that the tactics of the RNC are Constitutional, let alone honorable.
Go on.
I dare you. :-)
Report Post »Jmillerdoc
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:36pmOpen your minds, please, please look at http://www.ae911truth.org and then make your mind up on who could have prevented this. “contempt prior to investigation” has done much damage, please go to Archetects and Engineers for 911 truth
Report Post »sidneyk
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:33pmRon Paul is telling us in a round about way that 9-11 was done by our government. Who is still naive enough to believe the governments story? He imparts alot of knowledge if people would listen.
Report Post »SquareHead
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:23pm@WestCoast.
I see TheBlaze has removed your post earlier. There is no place here for Liberty loving small government conservatives. My posts get held for days, before the post them. Which tells me that they don’t want other readers to hear the arguments, so they wait until the story looses steam. This has become a Rhino website, where dissenting views will be screened and often blocked. I come here less and less as the comment section is not a place to battle out ideas, but a place to further the establishment GOP propaganda, of weak kneed Democrat Leaning politicians and policies. TheBlaze’s objective of stifling Ron Paul and his message appears to have been successful, as Mitt will get the nomination lest God intervenes shortly. The republican party is being torn apart, as millions of us will be voting for Gary Johnson, as we refuse to vote for the Democrat Mitt. Which will most likely give us Obama for a second term. Though none of us like him, we must admit that Obama has helped motivate the small government movement in a way that nobody could. So as he gets another four years, the conservative small government base can continue their growth, and the “Ron Paul” revolution will continue, as the movement is allot bigger than a man. It is about our founding fathers, and liberty.
“Give me Liberty or give me Death” -Patrick Henry
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Thinkingman777
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:27pm@Soybomb: Because most people consider Ron Paul pretty sharp on fiscal policies and a complete lunatic on foreign policy. His grasp of radical Islam and the history of Islam for the last 1,400 years is pathetic. He thinks America is the real culprit behind 9/11 and his solution is to just leave those poor Islamic radicals alone and they will leave the America alone. I for one would not vote for Ron Paul because we don’t need another “blame America first” president. We’re trying to get rid of one at the moment.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:28pmThanks for playing Norm! I’m sure that was the adult thing to do…BTW, you can’t have an “adult” discussion with Paul supporters. You have to humor them, like shaking a baby rattle (with paul’s face on it for best effect) and watch them laugh and clap with glee. Now, if only pacifiers will work on your cult with the same effect, we could all be “liberated” from your trolling comments…At least for another four years…
Report Post »Wes inTexas
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:28pmSo, Ron Paul said he could have prevented the 9/11 attack…WHAT ABOUT the 1993 attack? No answer for that on, ehh R. Paul, huh!! If he would have been in any other district here in Texas, he would not be there now, plain and simple. You Paul-bots are going to hand Obama another 4 years, at 160 delegates, he should just call it a day and go back home in peace and leave the party alone. Thank God he is not going to run again.
Report Post »Fitz1121
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:03pmExactly , I guess we have another bias tv station
Report Post »FoxII
Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:07pm@Wes inTexas
We have been sticking our fingers in the eyes of Iran for years now, so it goes way back before 1993.
Who installed the Shaw?
Who attacked their neighbors and installed dictators all around them?
Since you seem to live in Texas, what would you do if Iran propped up a dictator in Texas, built bases surrounding your state, and then told you to deal with it, or else?
Please…do tell us all about how you would sit there and take it. Do you expect anyone else to?
I will not be voting for Obama or Romney, as they are really two heads who serve the same masters. Both will continue the destruction of the Bill of Rights, bail out those who are too big to fail, and keep us in endless wars with no end.
Just remember, when you are waiting in line to go to a ball game, and the DHS/TSA thugs are strip searching your spouse and your children right before your eyes…you voted for it, and then think back to those “crazy Ron Paul bots” who tried to warn you of the results of your blind partisan ideology. If you think Romney is going to curb the police state that Bush started and Obama expanded, you have not been listening to a word he’s said.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:38pmLibertarianRevolution2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:23pm
Amazing how what Ron Paul said flew over the heads of all the Neo-Conservatives. He wasn’t talking about if HE was in charge at the time. He was saying that if people LIKE him were in charge then 9/11 could have been prevented. Our foreign policy is to blame for 9/11. Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda. That is because they mind their own business and don‘t intervene where they aren’t wanted. The Middle East is a place beyond saving yet we keep getting involved in their business. We can’t help ourselves. At this point, we‘re addicted to war and that won’t change if Romney becomes President
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Why not ask the Dali Lama about China minding their own business? Or even the tiny nation of Taiwan that our government seems intent to give back to the communists they escaped in the middle of the night. And we can ask the Balkin Nations about Russio minding their own business?
Yeah, if they’d have been in charge 9/11 would have happened on a much larger instance, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONLY THE FIRST STRIKE, BECAUSE THEY WOULDN‘T HAVE HAD TO TRY AND KEEP THE NATIONS THEY’VE ALREADY CONQUERED!
Give the school yard bully your lunch money and he’ll mind his own business and not bother you ever again! Works EVERY TIME, Right?
The Giver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:39pmRon Paul won five states and the RNC has refused to seat many of his duly elected delegates. If Santorum couldn’t seat his delegates, would he go to the convention? They invite him ( if that’s even true) knowing he won‘t go because they’ve cut his delegation in half. Maine’s delegates will not all be seated as elected. Even Maine’s Gov. Paul LePage ( Tea Party ) refused to go when at the last minute ( on Fri.) the RNC made their decision final. Ron Paul’s Views on Foreign Policy could be better, but I know he would do anything for this country because he loves this country. Let’s fix things at home first.
Report Post »I’m very astonished that the RNC would do this. I always believed in the political process, not in changing the rules in the middle of the game to suit your candidate. I won’t watch the convention now.
Marine25
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:41pm@ Trivissano
Report Post »you wrote “Jihad IS NOT a response. Jihad is the mechanical process used, with great success, to spread Islamic culture and Sharia law. Jihad is used against all non-muslims.”
So it’s like the Christian Crusades, no?
Mil Mom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:46pm@ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:44am
@HIFI74 Maybe you didn’t see the investigation into 9/11 utube “Fabled Enemies” and perhaps you didn’t see the Sibel Edmonds ( FBI translater) interview on 9/11 on whom a gag order was placed….And maybe you didn’t know that our government issued visas to the men involved and those men were trained at a naval base in Florida..or that Bush was briefed on it every day up until it happened..or that Sharia Compliant Banks(which fund organizations funding terrorism) received 700 billion in TARP rendering most likely those “terrorists” as mercenaries used turning America into a police state..starting neverending war.and ushering the Globalist Communist New World Order.. You probably didn’t know either that the Israeli Maasad followed the terrorists up to 9/11 getting “front row seats” as it were.. and high fiving each other after mission accomplished.. Lots of things you just don’t know
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Sounds like the “decriminalize drugs” and Kool Aide makers have joined up. Sure beats Mary Jane Brownies doesn’t it?
Mil Mom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:55pm@Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:43am
I. Love Ron Paul. If there were any Justice in this world. He would of been President a long long time ago. Truth is treason in an empire of lies. This man is the epitome of what a TRUE Statesman really is.
Report Post »Romney vs Obama…..what’s the difference?
Ron Paul 2012….The People’s Champ!!!
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The People’s Republic of….(take you choice here) All totalitarian regimes start out as a cult of personality! Ask any person who’s managed to escape them.
RP may have SOME good ideas, but his followers’ blind hero worship is what kept him from ascending higher! American’s fell for this type in 2012, “once burned, twice leery”! We’ve wakened up and need to stay that way!
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:57pm@Vegasdad702
Thank you! Yours is the post of the day
I too notice a big drop-off whenever Glenn isnt around. It’s as if Pat and Stu revert back to shock jock days or something. By doing that, they appeal to the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR and that is NOT what Glenn Beck is about
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:09pm@Treaty
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:17am
Romney! Romney! He’s our man! If he can’t fix it nobody can! Goooooooo Romney!
/sarcasm
You Romney supporters are a bunch of clueless twits
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Ever ride beside a teenage driver and see someone run a red light and pull out in front of you? Your feet went through the floorboards right?
Well the cabal is our teenage drivers, and all kinds of destruction is running the red light and pulling out in front of our vehicle of state! Romney is merely the holes we’ve all kicked in the floorboards, AND IF ENOUGH OF US RAM OUR FEET THROUGH AND DRAG OUR FEET WE MAY GET THIS VEHICLE STOPPED IN TIME! Wake up and kick your hole through and help drag your feet OR.. GET OUT AND TRY TO FLAG DOWN THE STUFF COMING BREAKNECK THROUGH THE RED LIGHT!!!! (I for one, sure hope there’s enough of us with that Romney hole dragging our feet to stop this vehicle in time!!!)
ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:02pm“Who installed the Shaw?
Who attacked their neighbors and installed dictators all around them?”
@Freedomluver, have you every actually looked at a map of the Middle East?
Look at Iran’s immediate neighbors and tell me which of those countries the USA had “installed” dictators in them? Don’t give me Saddam Hussein either because EVEN YOU knows he was home grown. Our government may have supported him in the 80‘s but we damn well didn’t put him there. He murdered his way to the top.
Afghanistan? Pakistan? Turkmenistan? Turkey?
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:06pm@ERP
First off, who installed the Shaw of Iran in the first place? Hhhhmmmm.
How many bases do we have in Kuwait? Seriously?
Since you mention Afghanistan, do you really think Karzai would be there without our blessing?
Then take a look at the Saudi‘s for Pete’s sake.
Of course there’s Yemem and Quatar.
How about the billions we gave to Egypt’s to prop up their dictator?
How about Jordan who we give all kinds of military goodies to?
Here‘s a map that’s not even complete of all the bases we have surrounding Iran.
http://war-in-middle-east.blogspot.com/2012/08/us-military-bases-in-middle-east-around.html
You would have to admit that foreign aid is also a form of propping up a regime, would you not?
Now tell us, what would you do if Iran started building up bases all around the state you live in, right after they invaded your neighboring state, with the full knowledge that they have propped up a dictator in your state in the recent past, and are threatening your state again? Would YOU take it, or would you be angry as all get out while doing all you could to stop them?
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:39pm@Mil Mom
Thanks for your great post. Is it not sad that we don’t get any real responses to the facts that we lay out regarding our support for Ron Paul or be it the truth about deception in our government. There is an occasional person that goes beyond name calling, but they are few.
Like you I am a Ron Paul supporter. He is a living example of what every small government conservative says they want in a politician which is:
1. Protect and Defend the Constitution
2. Tell us what you believe in, and what you will do if you are elected
3. Give us your reasoning for why
4. Don’t flip flop based on who you talk to.
5. Shrink the government
6. Protect our Liberty and Privacy
7. Protect our Private Property
8. Don’t tell me how to live my life
Ron Paul has always answered questions, on any issue, and has been consistent. That can hardly be said of anyone in DC. Especially not from the (former) pro- choice / anti gun Romney Care Democrat Mitt Romney. He is about as much of a republican as is Bloomberg the Mayor of NY, who feels com-pulsed to regulate our grocery shopping and eating habits for starters.
Obama Care vs. Romney Care? Who Cares?
They are both bad, both democrats at hart, both pro big government pro NDAA and both a serious threat to LIberty. The danger with Mitt is that he might pacify the Tea Party energy which is the best medicine against a big government tyranny.
I pray that God could still intervene, so that Ron Paul would be th
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:47amAll I can say is the blind sheeple of the United States have solidified Obama for four more years. I know they are so blind that they will not research anything. Romney‘s thuggery toward Paul’s delegates with criminal activity makes me feel ashamed of the GOP. Now that they did this to Paul, the are going after Gary Johnson. Now that the have realized that the Republicans are so ignorant to their deeds, they are changing the election process to guarantee that the people will have no voices in future elections. That is right people, YOU in YOUR state will not be able to have a say in the nominee for any future election. Our vote has been put asunder, all of you that claim to be the Tea Party, better wake up. We have been trying to wake you up, but nooooo, you just listen to the media puppets.
FREEDOM WORKS REPORT: http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jimhoft/urgent-action-needed-rnc-is-pushing-to-eliminate-g
Here we go, our freedoms are being put asunder by the RNC and Romney campaign. Paul supporters WILL NOT put up with this, will you? We WILL NOT vote for a criminal. We will look to Gary Johnson as he will not put up with this either. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:07amA vote for Mitt “RomneyCare” Romney is a vote for Barack “ObamaCare” Obama.
Get it? Because those who don’t get it are doomed to get it.
It’s past time for a CLEAN BREAK from Progressives-communists 100 year plan to baby-step to socialism/communism (overthrow American and her Liberty). Last call … or it all comes tumbling down.
Report Post »One_Man_Army
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:44am@ LIBERTARIANREVOLUTION2012
LOL You Paulbots are absolutely insane with how much you flat out IGNORE reality. Here is what you said word for word.
“Nations like Russia and China aren’t ever attacked by al Qaeda.” That is a big fat LIE proven to be one by ACTUAL NEWS SOURCES from BOTH Russia AND China. Here, check out this site which explains that Al Queda was SPECIFICALLY attacking Russia. 3 of the AL QUEDA terrorists actually were Muslims.
http://www.moscowtopnews.com/?area=postView&id=961
So much for them not targeting Russia, lol.
Oh, and here is another site explaining about an AL QUEDA linked terrorist group attacking SPECIFICALLY China.
http://www.infowars.com/al-qaeda-linked-group-carried-out-latest-terror-western-china-attacks/
So much for them not targeting China, lol.
Next time you want to make a bogus LIE, try not making ones that are EASILY disproven with a quick 10 second Google search, lol.
No. Al Queda did NOT attack the US because of the US’s foreign policy. Al Queda would have attacked the US regardless simply because the US is NOT a specifically Muslim nation. Al Queda has attacked Russia because Russia is NOT a specifically Muslim nation. Al Queda has attacked China because China is NOT a specifically Muslim nation. Al Queda has attacked nearly EVERY SINGLE country in Europe because they are NOT specifically Muslim countries. Beginning to see a pattern here, or do you forever choose to remain ignorant to reality itself?
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:08am@One_Man_Army
From YOUR source…
The Turkistan Islamic Party fighters have long established links to Al Qaida, and have already been deployed in ops throughout Central Asia and the Middle East. They are by all accounts, one tentacle in the Al Qaida international mercenary force used by western intelligence agencies including the CIA, MI6 and Mossad, in order to foment domestic unrest and create antagonism between nation-states. This latest incident in western China can be viewed as another such episode in what Zbigniew Brzezinski referred to as ‘The Grand Chessboard‘. Note also, that in this article the CIA’s very own Al Qaida media hang-out, Intel Center, is quoted as an expert source, further indication that this event was actually coordinated and run by western intel agencies.
WOW! So tell us, do you believe your own chosen source?
Parts of both Russia and China were traditionally Muslim, and these superpowers invaded their homelands. That has nothing to do with why these Muslims hate them as well….right?
Report Post »Vegasdad702
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:42pm@Soy- Thank you very much. The level of hypocrisy of Dr. Paul is just TOO OBVIOUS! NOBODY fits the description of a candidate more in line with the principles that Mr. beck & friends speak about DAILY than Dr. Paul. I get they have a different version of foreign affairs, but NOBODY in Washington can say they haven’t compromised their character and principles in the name of big government with the exception of Congressman Paul. Mr. Beck JUST SAID look how much Ron Paul has effected the GOP and the Tea Party and that we should be happy with what we have accomplished. In truth I agree, Dr. Paul agrees, but like Dr. Paul I am skeptical that ANY of the typical big government RINO’s will KEEP their promises once elected. If we go off of their records we HAVE NO REASON to believe Romney or any of these other guys will. I think WE DO HAVE A TOUGH CHOICE to make, because WE DO KNOW WHAT Obama WILL DO second term. Be that as it may, it looks SOOO SUSPECT to see the OBVIOUS shut down of Ron Paul and his message in the mainstream. Mr. Beck did a great job of teaching us about Progressives. And I have DONE MY HOMEWORK. EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW WHO EDWARD BERNAYS WAS/IS. The two party system is A SCAM. This audience SHOULD KNOW THIS BY NOW. SO HOW DO THEY SO EASILY VOTE FOR THE SAME PEOPLE, OVER, AND OVER AGAIN??? Lastly please try to reach each other with kindness and intelligent debate. WestcoastPatriot made me rethink what I was doing and he did it kindly. Love is key- God Bless
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:02pmBefore you idiots start/keep posting and making yourself look completely stupid, go and read the 911 commission reports. Go read the findings the CIA released based on the reasons they believe 911 happened. Or you can go watch the 1998 interview Osama bin Laden did on CBS explaining his reasons for declaring war on the United States.
You clowns can keep posting nonsense and look completely uneducated. You have been tricked and and you are too dumb to see you have joined the Democrats. The Liberty Movement/Ron Paul supporters are the last chance we have for this nation to save itself from destruction. The movement doesnt end with Ron Paul, we will continue to fight and take over the GOP. We may lose, but if we do, America does.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pmYa hear that? Dat dere is my air fiddle. I’m a gonna play yer a nice tune…
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:09pmRon Paul is a friggin idiot.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:12pmYeah we know it was America fault like always, and you wan’t us to take the governments word on why we were attacked now, I thought the CIA was the biggest drug cartel in the world.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:12pmHey dopey-dope Ron-Paul-Worshipper,
How could Ron Paul have prevented the 9/11 attacks, if he’s 100% going to leave all the other countries alone? How about you have this ding-dong explain how “his people” would have saved the lives of 3000 people by pretending nothing exists beyond the borders of the United States of America?
Nothing screams SYCOPHANT like a Ron Paul supporter.
Report Post »502_eagle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:13pmBin Laden was pissed about Desert Storm. You saying we shouldn’t have fought that?
Report Post »grimmster
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:21pm@mutiny aka enciloon.
Report Post »Get bent kid, all you paulbots are the same,hit a little meth, then come on here touting ron paul, f-n losers….The only reason you want him as prez, is because he will legalize your drug of choice, you idiots make me sick,
Madison2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:32pmHas it ever occurred to you that Osama WOULD GIVE ANY REASON to ATTACK us. Say we met his demands. DO YOU REALLY THINK HE WOULD LEAVE US ALONE? ABSOLUTELY NOT! IT IS PART OF HIS THEOLOGY to after INFIDELS.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:32pm@502
Bin Laden was not mad at the US for that war. He was mad at the occupation of Saudi holy lands after it was over. Lets not act like that was our first bit of intervention. We have been playing this game for decades now.
Facts are, we are broke and the foreign intervention has not made us safer.
@ to the rest of you idiots who posted
Call me and Ron Paul names, Check. Provide zero facts to back up your attacks, Check. Continuing to look stupid on these forums, Check. Well done fellas.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:32pm@P8riot
Glad to see you back. I thought maybe after Romney ‘secured the nomination’, you hung up your hat
Let me ask you – why were we attacked on 9/11? What motivated radical islamists to start using terrorism against US targets?
Report Post »C-Delta Conductor
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:34pmI hope that those of you who have replied to this post have never b*tch’d about how nasty liberals are online. How can we [Republicans] be the party of reason if we resort to slandering and libeling our ALLIES who largely agree with us (notably the “meth-hitting“ ”pot-smoking“ ”Paul-bots/tards/etc.”)…
You all should be deeply ashamed of yourselves.
The pro forma Republican Party and the Paul supporters will never agree; but neither will the Conservatives and the Socialists; yet I’ve never heard anything as viscous and vile directed at Obama as the so-called-“religious” right and Old Guard Republicans sling at Paul and his fellow Libertarian-Republican moralists.
Politics aside and for the sake unity against TYRANNY let me repeat: shameful.
Report Post »JediKnight
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:08am@502: That‘s exactly what they’re saying. A sovereign country got invaded and they think we should’ve stayed out of it, just like we did, for a very long time, leading up to WWII. Whether or not we should’ve stayed out of it is another topic, but that’s exactly what they think. Remember, even Ron Paul has said that based on what we knew, we shouldn’t have gotten involved in WWII either. Based on what we knew, we should’ve gotten involved in that one a lot sooner.
@Mutiny: BS. Don’t even try to separate them. bin Laden was mad that the US established a base in Saudi Arabia. He wasn’t mad “after the war”. He was mad at the establishment of a US base in Saudi Arabia, period.
What‘s funny is that all the PaulBots seem to think the founders wouldn’t have done similar things. Jefferson sent the Marines to Tripoli to fight the Barbari Pirates, who were Islamic. That was after Adam had continually paid them to stop attacking (and they kept on doing it). So go ahead and keep accepting the excuses of a terrorist. He (bin Laden) was looking for any reason to not like the US and the western way of life.
Report Post »anotherserf
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:11amIndeed. bin Laden even called out our President: ‘Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims — that we hate freedom –let him tell us then, “Why did we not attack Sweden?”‘
So you appear to be right. All we must do is subjugate our national security interests and leave innocents to their suffering to appease these lunatics, and they’d opt not to attack us. Phew!
But you might be surprised to find that people who are willing to sneak into a country to slaughter innocents might also be willing to lie or engage in propaganda. Shockingly, al Qaeda has since attacked Sweden!!! It must be because Sweden occupied the Middle East for decades and supported Israel, right?
No. It’s because a Swedish artist drew caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.
So I guess the real lesson is that if we are willing to subjugate our interests, leave innocents to their suffering AND sacrifice our freedom of expression, THEN maybe the otherwise pleasant mujahideen would leave us alone.
Sign me up!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:18am@jedi
Well we did stay in Saudi Arabia well after we freed Kuwait. He also may have been inclined to want to fight us since we did train him and his men in Afghanistan to fight the Russians and once they pulled out we had no use for him and his men.
Our intervention started well before the first Iraq war or 911. To ignore the Saudi thing after he said it on tv and the fact that 15 of the 18 hijackers were Saudi seems to be a bit ignorant.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:59amYou guys are priceless..I don’t even know why we waste our time trying to explain things to you except for the fact when I started out 4 yrs ago..I was just as clueless..but I do try to learn.. Ron Paul is about freedom..Look at the big picture and what has happened since 9/11..We are turning into a police state..Due to the notoriety of the Brandon Ruab Case..the decorated marine…taken in by the Secret Service and the CIA and held in a mental institution for being a Constitutionalist..and posting it on Facebook he was threatened with brainwashing by drugs..has it come to light that there are 20,000 civil commitments each year in Virginia..So how many more do you think that happens too?..Do you know that they listen in to every phone conversation that you have?They can just wisk you away..even though NDAA was appealed by Ron Paul and a Federal Judge found it unconstitutional..the Obama administration refuses to tell a Federal Judge if it is being illegally enforced..You do not understand the severity of what we have gotten ourselves into..You are not going to worry so much about the little things when you wind up losing all of your freedom.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:48amIt’s gonna be a sad sad day when this man dies. Only then will there be noone to trust and tell us the truth
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:01am@502 EAGLE, I‘ll say we shouldn’t have fought Desert Storm. It was BS in every way. Just like the next Iraq war the dumb Bush got us into.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:21amThe NeoLib bots just love the Palestinians, just like all Jew hating liberals. The anti-Jew Paul newsletters worked well……… The newsletter the senile / dementia riddled Paul cant remember.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:05am9/11 was an inside job or blow-back for crusader foreign policy.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:55am@Republicorp, Give it a rest. You’re the most vile racist on here.
Report Post »vadale
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:23amYea, and what about the muslim involvement during world war two when we had little to no troops around the world. None in the middle east. And yet they wanted to get involved in killing others…I guess you drunk on stupidity ron paul morons will say it was still our fault…It’s always our fault…Nobody does anything wrong around the world unless we make them mad first,,,,MORONS.
Report Post »sWamby
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:52amIf Clinton hadn’t had 8 years to screw up, 911 would have never happened.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:59amAmerica is, to me, like one of my children.
I love my boys with all my heart, I think they are the greatest kids God ever made, I would lay down my life for them with no hesitation……but……………..when they are wrong, I MUST say so for their own good.
America is a great nation, but at times we’ve had bad leadership and mistakes have been made. If we can’t have a civil discussion about that fact, how will we ever improve?
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:23pmMutiny you are delusional. Nothing can salvage what we have left. You can rail at the moon for the rest of your time and you will accomplish….nothing. I put faith in no man. I put faith in no political agenda or system. I have no confidence…b
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:49pm@soybomb315_II
Hey buddy, yes, it has been a long time. I’ve made the transistion from civil litigation to prosecution – so I’m totally swamped until I get this huge stack of cases to shrink a bit.
To answer your question… no one disputes that the terrorists who attacked us did it because they don’t like us and/or our policies. However, the Paul argument that we caused the attacks because of our policy reminds me of a case I recently prosecuted where the defendant attacked a police officer because he doesn’t like cops (i.e. their policies in dealing with and protecting the public). So would you then say that it was the police officer’s fault that he was attacked because of his policies? Or rather, would you simply agree that it was the defendant’s decision to commit such a horrible crime regardless of his reasoning?
In another example (since we’re both religious) – would you blame God for all the sin on earth because Satan and his followers hate his ‘policies’? Of course we’re not perfect like God is, but its the same principle.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:52pm@JediKnight:
Yes, Jefferson sent our Navy against the Barbary pirates.
By obtaining Letters of Marque from the Congress.
Like the Constitution requires.
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:08pm@Mutiny
Oh stop you’re nonsense with the commission report. You and a majority of your fellow Ron Paul neanderthals all believe President Bush cooked up the whole 9/11 attack with missiles and bombs. You’re Truthers, don’t hide behind the commission report. Believe what you believe and be intellectually honest for a change.
Report Post »Lordcsmith
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:59pmIf Ron Paul was in charge, I would buy stock in Dorito’s and Funyuns. Then move to Israel, where their existence still matters to them.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:11pmIt’s pretty hard to be in charge and have some organization when your blown out of your mind can you imagine his Army ?
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:07ami have the ability to easily move there but i would move back to Canada before i would go to that police state of very little freedom.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:13amSCREW-WINDOWS, Danged good point. 0bama lifted DADT, and I would expect Paul to allow certain other “intoxicants” to be sold at military Class VI stores. California is already working to become like much of Holland.
Report Post »Like I have said before, the safest place for Ron Paul is to become the Secretary of the Treasury. He expresses sound fiscal policies, and it would get him out of the house where he keeps making his loony earmarks on bills that he then turns around and votes against it. Just so he can say he does not vote for earmarks. He tries to be as slick of a politician as any of them. The only other thing that I can honestly say in his favor, is that at least he is not a communist.
blaze7c
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:52amAll of you people screaming insults at Ron Paul followers are so full of yourself. You guys piss me off so badly. Lets just roll some more insults for RP. Keep listening to the MSM snippets, so you can have more ammo against a true patriot. You guys are so freaking STUPID and brainwashed that you only see what you are told to see. You talk about democrats who want to take your stuff, but it is ok if a republican does. WAKE UP Morons. Texas Grannie, I am so tired of hearing how badass TX is. I guess that is why you are overrun with illegals.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:06pmRuPaul supporters are as kooky as Obama cultists.
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:12pm@blaze7c
Yup, a true patriot WITH NO CHANCE OF EVER BEING PRESIDENT LOL!
Sorry to disappoint you that there will be no OTC weed served at your local corner store.
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:14pm@blaze7c
Hey idiot, the WHOLE country is over run by illegal immigrants not just Texas and if Law Enforcement actually tries to do their job, their the ones who get tossed in jail.
Report Post »blaze7c
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:31pm@ERP,
Smart guy, you can call names, but you can’t make any real arguments. You are a keyboard soldier, just like so many others on here WITH A BIG MOUTH. You take that Romney pill and choke on it, idiot. Run your punk mouth some more, dumbass. You make me sick. Just remember, you get what you asked for.
Report Post »Faith_Grace
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:55pmHas he been prescribing his own drugs???????
Report Post »502_eagle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:59pmAHA, that’s what it is !!!!
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:00pmI bet, but drugs are what he needs- (anti-psychotic meds). That psychosis is really messing him up.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:10pmYes. He. Has.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:55pmRon Paul is just the spark. You will miss the days when there was only Ron Paul. When Ron Paul goes away, there will be a great many who will take his place. At that point, you will no longer be able to control it
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:14amSoy I’m with you 100%. Ron Paul started the brush fire of freedom in the minds of millions. We will be the minority who will fight for real freedom.
I know in my heart that the 2nd American Revolution is just around the corner. It will be in our life time. It may end up being a civil war. Question will be, what side will all of you be on? Will you toe the line and defend the status quo? Or will you stand up for freedom?
The revolution is coming. There will be a day when you will have to pick a side. I choose freedom. Real freedom, for everyone, not just those that agree with me. Freedom that was given to us by our founding fathers. Not just freedom for those that register as Republicans. Freedom for all.
I’m ready to fight. I’ve already risked my life for my country. I’m willing to risk it again, sacrifice it if I have to, one last time to give my children REAL freedom in their life time. Are you?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:20am@separated
I am with you.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:47amSounds like another pipe dream.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:18amMitt Romney will control which ones you take with his death panels in Robamacare.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:55pmIt appears dementia has set in.. sorry about your father Rand.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:07amDementia= The disease caused by listening to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:59amNAPS thanks for the laugh………fool
Report Post »Cadcamtrainer
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:36amWriting your own scripts is a bad thing Dr. Paul….. The man is a lunatic. Starting to wonder if he is the real father of Rand Paul…”…
Report Post »LibertarianRevolution2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:54pmI mean, let’s just completely ignore the fact that we were messing in the affairs of the Middle East years before 9/11. Let’s just completely ignore the blowback, something the CIA even confirmed is very real. Let’s just ignore the fact that our occupation of the Middle East for years before 9/11 gave rise to even more anti-American sentiment from the young people growing up in the region over time.
Our awful foreign policy had nothing to do with 9/11 happening. NOTHING AT ALL!
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:58pmAnd the Jews hate us for taking out Hitler.
Report Post »502_eagle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pmlmao
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pmThe problem with blowback is that the problems of blowback go back to things the presidents did long before Dr. Paul even came onto the scene… He could have hardly made up for what previous presidents already did… The hate for America was long ingrained, and that blowback would have come around to bite, no matter who was in the presidential seat.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:06pmDid you say something?? I was ignoring you.
Report Post »ColoradoProudAmerican
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:07pmThere is no talking to these brainwashed retards. I think they should always present themselves as neocons, so when this ship sinks, we know who to allow on to the rescue ship, and who to kick back in the water to drown. Fck these retards, I’m going to laugh in the face of every neocon teaparty member when Obama gets re-elected. Im ready, lets get this collapse over with.
Report Post »Madison2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:12pmAbsolutely Nothing! We were attacked since we are the Great Satan. You need to study history. All we have done is support Israel and purchase Arab OIL and made them rich. Osama Bin Ladin had millions of dollars and could live like a king. Instead he dedicated his life to KILLING as many INFIDELS as possible. Be it RUSSIAN or AMERICAN or EUROPEAN or people with FREEDOM. HE WAS AN IDEOLOGUE of RADICAL ISLAM.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:16pmSee? Ron Paul supporters are part of the “blame America first” crowd.
Yep, the Arabs hate America, because we wouldn’t bend over and accept Sharia law. I suppose Ron Paul would have subjugated the country to them 20 years ago, and we never would have had a “9/11″ in the first place.
Genius logic. Sure enough.
Report Post »Pyronaught
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:16pmI guess then we also have to completely ignore the Islamic terrorist attacks in Russia, Spain and the UK to name a few and pretend the US is the only country they have ever targeted and that it has nothing to do with the verifiable fact that their cult encourages and demands these sort of attacks against “infadels” the world over. Newsflash: nobody gets disgruntled enough over foreign policy issues to kill themselves in suicide missions. That is the exclusive domain of religious fanaticism.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:17pmIronically (or should I say Iranically?) there is probably some blowback from Iran from the fact that the US defeated Hitler during WW2 years ago… Iran and the Nazis do have a connected history together… The name “Iran” coming from the term “Aryan” replacing the earlier name Persia.
There are probably many who are upset that we got involved in WW2 and defeated the Nazis… Amininutjob or the Ayatollah for example have been known to claim that Hitler was right, and also that ‘holocaust’ never happened (and if it happened it would have been “justified”) :p…
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:29pmSacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pm
The hate for America was long ingrained, and that blowback would have come around to bite, no matter who was in the presidential seat.
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That’s not exactly true though……
For instance, you don’t see the Sioux and Cheyenne tribes performing any massacres on the likes of General Custer or General Sherman anymore for trying to run them off of their own land in order to make way for the railroad.
General Custer would have lived a lot longer life if he hadn’t been sent there to exterminate the Sioux from their own land…..
However, when’s the last time the Sioux have ever launched an assault on Union cavalry?……..it’s been at least 100 years now, for sure.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:34pmMadison2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:12pm
Instead he dedicated his life to KILLING as many INFIDELS as possible. Be it RUSSIAN or AMERICAN or EUROPEAN or people with FREEDOM. HE WAS AN IDEOLOGUE of RADICAL ISLAM.
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Obviously. he didn’t consider the CIA to be Infidels though:
Operation Cyclone
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:42pmSo now native americans are the same as muslims, or the more extreme types of islamic religion?
But I’ll bite, there are activist native americans who would like the UN to step in and perform reparations for what we have done to them years ago… Through Agenda 21 and other programs, groups like La Raza, various native groups are trying to regain their lands, and accuse America of being a ‘partheid’ nation that has always broken every treaty that we have ever been involved in. Ignoring that historically there were some groups of native americans that broke their own treaties (or were never signers of the treaties in the first place, i.e. because one chief may have signed it, his actions may not have been endorsed by other chiefs).
So yes, it can be argued that more communist aspects of UN and certain native american movements, are blowback to things that both America has done (although honestly, some may have shared the fault in themselves).
Perhaps some of these groups don’t do it through violence, but some attemts at radical “change” is just as detrimnetal to American way of life as Islam and sharia would be.
No I wouldn’t argue that islam and native americans are the same. But there are certainly certain groups in both that are trying to undermine the American way of life, but by different methods.
Again, its not all members of the groups, just a very vocal part of each group.
Report Post »termyt
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:58pmThey hate us because we are rich, powerful, and not Islamists.
Look at the mess in Somalia during the Clinton administration. They claimed we were the worst people to ever exist for not helping in Somalia. Then we went in and they said we were the worst people to ever exist for sticking our nose in Somalia. Then we left Somalia with our tails between our legs and they laughed at how foolish we are.
They will use any excuse they can to hate us and attack us. We refuse to fight them there, they will grow bold and attack us here. Get a grip. Do you really believe them when they say, “If only you weren’t over here, we wouldn’t hate you?” Do you also believe them when they say they are fair and just when it comes to treatment of women and Jews?
Report Post »Neils60
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:01amIf you, or Ron Paul, read bin Laden’s rant as to why he ordered his sub-human creatures to attack us, you’d know that his complaints go all the way back to the Crusades (a.k.a. Christians) kicking the Moslems out of Spain to America’s presence anywhere on “Moslem” land. He specifically stated American troops in Kuwait, when Iraq attacked it. Surprisingly, his extensive commentary gave very, very short shrift to the cause of Palestianian Arabs. Thus, if Ron Paul could go back some 1400 years, or more, his claim of saving some 3,000 Americans may have had some validity.
Report Post »It’s quite obvious why his son Rand, supported Romney over his father’s candidacy for the presidency.
SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:10am“The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet Mohammed, that it was written in their Koran,
that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them
wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.”-Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:18amSacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:42pm
But I’ll bite, there are activist native americans who would like the UN to step in and perform reparations for what we have done to them years ago… Through Agenda 21 and other programs, groups like La Raza, various native groups are trying to regain their lands,
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So you would agree that Kelo vs. City of New London (2005) was the correct decision then? …..that the government should be allowed to use force to kick somebody off of land that they purchased and own outright and subsequently give that property to a separate private entity?
Yes or no?
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:27amYour forgot a couple of details like the fact the Osama Bin Laden, back in the 90′s, Bombed the World Trade Center that also killed people. You left out the fact that our Military has caught Bin Laden twice and was holding him for extradition to be tried for the World Trade Center Bombing. You also forget that Bill Clinton, not once, but twice refused to bring Bin Laden here to be tried. 9/11 would not have happened if Clinton would have had Bin Laden brought here to stand trial, convicted and put away for life in Gitmo.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:37am“So you would agree that Kelo vs. City of New London (2005) was the correct decision then? …..that the government should be allowed to use force to kick somebody off of land that they purchased and own outright and subsequently give that property to a separate private entity?
Yes or no?”
I’m not sure Kelo vs New London is all that relevent for what I was referring to.
Also I think the question maybe more complicated than a simple yes or no.
So perhaps I should explain myself further, to avoid any ‘trick answers’. Let’s say some indigenous group of people tried to kick me off my land, through the use of the government/UN, stating it was to be given back to them in reparation for what was stolen from them years before.
I would be completely against that! Because what government entity might have done in the past, it’s not my fault now… I shouldn’t have to be punished for past mistakes of others. It’s not the governments job to “right the wrongs” of past…
We must all live in the present, and move on.
However, my point was there will always be those groups who want reparations for past mistakes… Some are willing to be violent over it, others through litigation… Obama wants to use the government to enforce all white people to give reparations to the african-americans for purpose of social justice reasons… Its always the same arguement, putting the blame on the children for the sins of the fathers… But it will never ‘fix’ anything.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:11amCrusaders are the greatest threat to this country now.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:49amNah, I’d say the communists/marxists/socialists in office are currently the biggest threat to us now… and their allies the Muslim Brotherhood… the cancer from within…
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:41pm@ColoradoProudAmerican
F You too pal
Report Post »Madison2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:52pmRon Paul is the most naive man on planet earth! Islamic radicals have been pestering the United States since our founding. This country tried peaceful means with these nut jobs until Jefferson had enough and sent in the Marines kick their behinds! What a joke! like he could control the middle east. He is so full of crap. I find him offensive when it comes to foriegn policy. Islam is not only a religion it is a marxist philosophy with religion. Ron Paul obviously does not understand these nut jobs. I wonder if he ever bothered to read the Koran? No amount of being nice will change them. They want to KILL us or SUBMIT to Islam!
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:00amthey kicked their behind and then they came home
Jefferson also didnt send them around the world fighting pre-emptive enemies
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:23amYeah you need a history lesson Madison. Why did Jefferson send our navy to fight them? Our ships were being attacked. Our sailors were being held ransom. Our interests were being attacked.
Now, what nations have done anything similar to us in the past 3 or 4 decades?
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:51amBarbary Pirates are like the Somalia pirates that attack for pretty much the same religious reasons now adays…
Modern Jihadists justify their reasons for attacking using the same arguements made by the Barbary pirates over 200 years ago….
But eh, people choose not to take Jihadists at their word… Jihadists attack everyone not just America… Even countries that have never been directly bothered by them. It’s all about spreading their brand of combined religion and state.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:08amChristian radicals murdering their people and trying to take over their countries are causing any sort of radicalism and its really just nationalism cause they don’t want you in their country.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:53amIndividualism, are you MaryElizabeth or whatever her name is?
Nah I’d argue that the biggest threat to muslims are the muslims themselves… They tend to kill each other more than they kill others over doctrinal differences…
As for the biggest threat to the United States, I’d say its the communist/marxist/socialists in the white house, that continue to escalate the wars, and put us into even more wars… As well as their Muslim Brotherhood allies. They are the cancer from within.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:05pmSeemingly always lost in this particular area of discussion is this fact:
Jefferson petitioned for, and obtained, Letters of Marque and Reprisal, from the Congress. He did this BEFORE sending our Navy to fight the Barbary pirates.
Can you honestly say that any administration in the last 70 years has gone to Congress to make a case for a Declaration of War, and which has taken from the Congress its marching orders to destroy the enemy by the most expedient means possible, and then to return home?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:49pmWhere is GUMS? Once he gets on this story he’ll prematurely explode like a short fuzed grenade. He hates Paultards more than Navin (THE_JERK) hates Israel and Jews. Oh well, I expect GUMS to self destruct here soon.
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:34pmLook new never before seen video of Ron Paul from the 90′s. Thought you might like it RJJing
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo
RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:01amGUMS, Now that was funny. I remember Applewhite well, their idiocy occurred near the same time that I retired from the Army.
Report Post »BTW, you needn’t preach to me about Ron Paul. The only way that I would have voted for him would have been had he become the Republican candidate. My main goal is to fire the current occupant of the White House. Paul would bring his wacky ideas, but I can easily see the congress putting a stop to them. At least Paul tends to believe in the Constitution and will likely not attempt to lead by fiat and executive orders as our current ‘dear leader.‘ I do like most of what I read of Paul’s fiscal ideas, and as I have often joked here for probably over a year, Paul would make a fine Secretary of the Treasury, but with plenty of adult supervision.
I certainly do welcome any new conservatives here and hope you do stick around for a while. My main concern is your attitude that reminds me of Jeff Dunham‘s Achmed the Dead Terrorist’s attitude of “I keel you” if somebody only somewhat disagrees with you. I suggest that you chill somewhat while still maintaining your passion for this country and what is happening to us all. Just stop lowering yourself to the personal lack of human qualities of the real left wing loons who get on here and scream at the conservatives for being what we are. There is a time and a place to let some of those characters have it though.
Again, thanks for that truly funny Applewhite video as Paul. I do salute your sense of humor
Tri-ox
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:47pmRon Paul sounds more like obama every day – he has lost his mind.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:53pmWell that is true if you dont listen to the 911 commission, the CIA, and Osama bin Laden in his own words.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:06pmSo it is OK to trust the CIA now that it may prove your point but they are not to be trusted any other time?
Report Post »anotherserf
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:07am@Mutiny “Well that is true if you dont listen to [...] Osama bin Laden in his own words.”
Very good point. After all bin Laden himself said: ‘Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims — that we hate freedom –let him tell us then, “Why did we not attack Sweden?”‘
So you appear to be right. All we must do is subjugate our national security interests and leave innocents to their suffering to appease these lunatics, and they’d opt not to attack us. Phew!
But you might be surprised to find that people who are willing to sneak into a country to slaughter innocents might also be willing to lie or engage in propaganda. Shockingly, al Qaeda has since attacked Sweden!!! It must be because Sweden occupied the Middle East for decades and supported Israel, right?
No. It’s because a Swedish artist drew caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.
So I guess the real lesson is that if we are willing to subjugate our interests, leave innocents to their suffering AND sacrifice our freedom of expression, THEN maybe the otherwise pleasant mujahideen would leave us alone.
Sign me up!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:39amSo you think bankrupting our country and stripping the freedoms of our citizens is a better option? Who will defend the innocent if we are broke and our cities are on fire? I never said let the innocent just die. If we have to go to war we declare it, fight it, and come home. No more nation building. No more occupations. No more American puppet dictators.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:46amSo Mutiny are we to trust the governments report now that it backs up your point. I thought the CIA was the biggest drug cartel in the world. Should we trust them now too.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:02amObamney/Goldman Sachs 2012
Report Post »BrianA
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:46pmThose of you laughing at this need to study the CIA’s reports on blow back and suddenly his non interventionist foreign policy starts to make sense.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:53pmBut we have been told the CIA is bad and only in it for the drug money, why should we trust any of their reports.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:57pmYeah.. Talking and cease fires have always worked in the past with Muslim terrorists.. hasn’t it? YIKES!
Report Post »502_eagle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:58pmSo the world would be warm and fuzzy if we didn’t intervene anywhere?
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:01pmBlowback may be real… However, Paul being president in 2000 wouldn‘t have guerrenteed that planes wouldn’t have crashed into the buildings back in 2001… The blowback theory suggests that blowback comes from things that have happened years ago…
Unless I misunderstand the constitution, Paul would have only been able to have two terms as president tops… He couldn’t have prevented what previous presidents have done over the years or what later presidents who come after him would have done. Not unless he intended to revise the constitution and allow for more than two terms, so that no one could screw up his plans… He’d have to use executive orders to reverse previous laws, and become a “benovolent” dictator/administrator in the process.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:03pmyou need to go study radcial islam and learn its founding b/c it wasnt in ‘53 it wasnt 1920’s either. All you and other RP drones do is regurgitate his blatant lies.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:09pmEagle – I always wonder why they try to turn our attenion to the Zionists when it is Islam and Communist counties who are out in the open trying to bring us down, it seems like a case of don’t look here, look over there, that has always been my gut instsinct.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:00amAh, but you know they‘ll blame the blowback all the way back to the early 1800’s when Jefferson beat Tripoli and the “Musselmen” pirates! It‘s all Jefferson’s fault!
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:42amradical christianity is as dangerous as radical islam and once that beast is tamed this country can move forward perhaps will small goverment and its one of the few things finally but slowly being down now.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:43pmI cannot stand this man anymore, it would be 1000times worse if he was in charge. He doesnt understand radical islam. RP followers he lies to you about radical islams problem with US starting in 1953. It started when Washington was POTUS!!! Why do you think he created the Navy?! It then escalated under Jefferson why do you think he created the Marines!!!? He has zero understanding of radical islam.
I challenge Paul to national televised debate on this.
Im sick and tired of his lies and deceit. He is just like other politicians he bashes. Just because he invokes the Constitution in every other sentence doesnt qualify him to be POTUS. He DOESNT PRACTICE what he preaches. RP people you are being lied to by this career politician. He tells you what you want to hear just as BHO did with his followers.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:50pmHe’s a confirmed pacifist.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:50pmCLINTON RULED PILOT HAND GUNS OUT OF COCKPITS OF PASSENGER PLANES
Law passed in 1960s to prevent Castro hijacking of US passenger plans for ransom was ordered to end by Clinton Executive order. Unarmed flight decks of US aircraft allowed 911 hijacking. Bush fought Democrats to reinstate pilot handguns but Obama ordered the end like Clinton.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:54pm@bmartin
Have you ever listened to the Osama Bin Laden interview he did in 1998 on CBS? Do some research, then post.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:54pmWho do you think God likes more, someone who questions how it is their money is derived, and very slow to blow people up for their own security, or people who refuse to question how their money is derived while deciding quickly to blow someone up for their security?
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:54pmThe new GOP must become the Republican Party of vengeance, anger, and reprisal. These Democrats have done everything possible to destroy our nation, ruin our health care system, brainwash our children, attack our religion, create race war, and ruin our relationship with other nations. For this and many other things we are angry and will not allow them to escape punishment. Join us in bestowing on them what they attempted to do to us and our loved ones.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:57pmYeah that‘s it Ron Paul is a ’pacifist‘ that’s why he wants to audit the Fed, and his son Rand wants to audit the Pentagon. ‘Pacifists’ that must be it.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:59pmRon Paul already had a national debate on this over the last year and won this subject hands down. Michelle Bachman and a few others dropped out shortly after getting spanked by Paul on stage. Santorum couldn’t defend his war mongering. Mitt just chose to stop talking about it.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:00pm@mutiny I know all of i have researched it heavily why do you think I issue the challenge to Paul on national televised level. You think Im some fool uninformed? Go away….
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pmYeah I suppose.
But then what is it about Romney that you can support. His big government policies?
Report Post »His support for making innocent children pay for the crimes of the father by support infanticide in the case of rape?
you must be so proud of your guy, romney.
He is a sicko. I hate anyone who condemns innocents to die.
mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:14pmWay do redirect mamma.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:26pm@bmartin
Your post shows your complete lack of understanding. If you looked at those three things I posted about you would see clearly our foreign intervention and occupation caused 911. You can put your fingers in your ears and choose to ignore me, but the truth is the truth.
Since you have done extensive research, what has the war in Iraq, the continued war in Afghanistan, our attacks in Libya, Yemen, and Pakistan, our aid to Syria and Egypt gotten us? Are we safer? Do Muslims not want to attack us now? No!! If anything we have created more terrorist because when you blow up a house and kids die fathers because terrorist. When you shoot people from a helicopter and dads die, sons become terrorists. Wake up, you are the one that doesnt understand Muslim extremist.
We cannot live in fear. We have been living in fear and creating monsters like the TSA and DHS. We have lived in fear and given up our rights with laws like the Patriot act and NDAA. We have allowed our community police forces to be armed well enough that a few of our major cities police forces could take over half the middle east. We have allowed ourselves to be spied on by drones out of fear.
WELL I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MUSLIMS!!!!! Bring our troops home, secure our borders, fix our fiscal problems, cut off aid to every nation, and if someone blinks wrong DECLARE WAR AND END THEM!!!! No rebuilding, no bags of rice, no new bridges or hospitals. Total destruction. Then come home.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:05amBMartin1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:43pm
It started when Washington was POTUS!!!
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Washington was a pacifist:
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“Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”
Report Post »-President George Washington, September 19, 1796
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:10am“If you looked at those three things I posted about you would see clearly our foreign intervention and occupation caused 911.”
Yes, and as the blowback theory states, it wouldn’t have mattered if Ron Paul or people like Ron Paul were in charge in 2000… Al Queda would still have attacked based on ‘past intervention and occupation” over the decades before… 3,000 people would have still died…
Unless of course you believe that 9/11 was an “inside job”, and if that is true, is the arguement, if Ron Paul type people in charge, no American would have ‘set up the explosives’ to take down the buildings?
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:18amMutiny, I do agree though… If we are going to fight, we aren’t fighting the right way (we aren’t fighting to win, we don’t even have clear objectives as to why we are over there)… …and “rebuilding” the countries” after we halfhardly ‘defeat’ (leave) the enemy, hasn’t gotten us anywhere…
If we are to go to a war with a country, we should go to war with the full force of our might, like a whirlwind do our damage, and leave quickly… Don’t give them to time or room to regroup. None of the nambly pamby police action or overseas contingency nonsense…
Otherwise, if we aren’t willing to fight with clear objectives, we shouldn’t be there in the first place… Otherwise, like Jefferson, if nations leave us alone, we’ll leave them alone… But Allah help them if they try to cross us…
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:01amthis is what the world thinks and is why the world hates you neo cons because your murdering people around the world for no good reason.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:02amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
This is what we are doing to people around the world.
Report Post »ERP
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:28pm@Mutiny
Enough of your bull s**T.
The attacks of September 11th, 2001 were cause by unhinged, radical religious @$$holes who do not want peace, but to indoctrinate the entire globe with Sharia Law or die trying. When they killed Americans, they condemned their brothers and sisters to death as far as I’m concerned. If they never hijacked those planes then things would be a hell of a lot different. There would have been no invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan. Eventually, the people of Iraq would have risen just like in Egypt and Syria.
I guess we also caused the 1993 attack too, huh?
Love you’re country, stop blaming it for everything.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:43pmYup incompotent lying-ass neocons and CFR pukes got all sorts of people killed that didn’t have to die. They’re great people that care about you all. That’s why they think they have the right to make you disappear without due process. Or kill ya. Think Bin Laden’s people still have any of those stingers missiles the CIA gave them laying around?
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:50pmJUST, We get it, you HATE the Jews. We also know what “Neo-con” means. It means “Jew”.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:12pmIt’s fun playing Paulbot bingo!
So far, I’ve got blowback and now neocon checked off. I still need an Agenda 21, a FEMA camp, and a revolution to get my BINGO!
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:50amYou really are just angry, good that you are at least honest about that, if you put intelligent in your username then there would be a problem.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:03amI haven’t anything about 9/11 was an “Inside Job” (9/11 Trutherism) either… You’ll need that to have a full hand.
You may have overlooked a Bilderberg, or a Rothchilds reference or two as well…
Agenda 21 isn‘t just a ’paulbot’ thing though… Even Glenn Beck warns about that one, and he’s no paulbot. Glenn won’t touch the “FEMA camp” discussion though…
He does warn about FEMA though, only as far that American needs to fend for itself, communities need to prepare to take care of their own, not not rely on government during times of disaster.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:25amGlenn was talking about FEMA camps in 2008, as Bush signed that stuff on his way out
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:49amI’ve seen those 2008 videos, he kinda said I don’t believe and thought it was crackery but as he researched into it, he had something to ‘expose’. Then he all of a sudden clammed up, said it was all an urban myth, and then whispered something to the effect, “they are making me say this, help me”, and then changed the subject!
Since then, he’s been denying “FEMA camps” subject, or trying to change the subject when its brought up. Though he still has been directly and indirectly condemning and fighting against the FEMA agency, to try to make them irrelevent, by setting up his own disaster relief program, or telling others to get prepared, set up programs to help others on their own..
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:14amBTW, I’ve been hearing the FEMA camp rumors for a long time, long before Bush in 2008… Perhaps back to Bush 1, but i‘m sure I’ve heard it before that even. I’m not that old, but I know its been around a long time.
Actually historically you can trace it back to the precursor to FEMA, FERA (Federal Emergency Relief Agency), back in the 1930′s FDR, who actually did lock up many WW1 veterans in work camps down in the Florida Keys because he thought they might try to overthrow the government in fear of events of the Bonus Army several years before… Many were killed or injured when a hurricane hit the islands, flooding the camps, as I recall.
http://www.questia.com/library/3562530/fdr-and-the-bonus-marchers-1933-1935
You can also kinda lump in the internment camps for the Japanese, Aleutian Islanders, German, and Italian Americans into this history as well…
I have another book IIRC, that even discusses how Wilson arrested or threatened to arrest African-Americans before WW1, accusing of them of spying for the Germans, in order to convince them or other black americans to join up to fight in the war!
This has been going on a long time! The idea isn’t new, and its based on a lot of truth. Although the exact particulars of how these camps function hasn’t always been the same…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:30amAll these BS accusations because I used the term Neocon? Wow you guys are lame, especially Model. I mean where did you get this idea that it means Jew from? I mean really, I use one phrase and I’m a believer in every conspiracy theory out there? The only conspiracy theory that concerns me is I don’t trust the CFR/Bilderberg groups. Especially the CFR. Now you all fall for a partial clip without any context and spout your anti Paul hatred. And it isn’t even really a shocking statement. He believes he’s right about foreign policy…. great story Blaze. For the record, I think he’s right about foreign policy too. I just trust different experts based on what I’ve seen other than Stackelbeck, Boiken and Lapin. I mean they all have and end of the world prophesy driven world view, which I don’t share. So I trust experts with actual credentials like Sheuer, Kwaitkowski, etc. Give me a break.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:10amContrary to what you accuse me of being, I don’t hate Ron Paul. I don’t hate anyone. I just hold a healthy skepticism for all career politicians… Even him. Many of his ideas are great. Would he stand up for them in office, would he be allowed to stand up for them in office?
Unless congress is fixed first with more constitutionalists, would he be relevant at all?
Keep in mind I’m a realist… I don‘t think there is a ’perfect candidate’, Nor do I think the problems we have can be fixed all at once. Ron only has the possiblity of two terms, I don’t think he can fix the problems in two terms. He would have a corrupt congress vetoing him the entire way…
That would either force him to have to end term limits, so that he could remain around to insure his plans are continued… and/or introduce reform through dictatorial power, utilizing executive orders to block corrupt regulations and laws. Much in the same way Obama is using executive orders to ignore the immigration laws… If he doesn’t remain in power, the next president potentially can reverse everything he did through more executive orders!
That means if he uses those methods, he would be resorting to the same pattern that progressives are using… It would also be somewhat hypocritical for someone who claims that executive orders should not be used, or that we need more term limits (which I wholeheartedly agree with).
Without fixing congress, we’ll never get a reliable pres, doesn’t matter how
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:01amYou‘re a realist arguing against the one candidate that didn’t think it was ok to kill you or get rid of you if they SUSPECTED you of being a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer without a trail. All but 6 congressmen and 2 republican senators believe this is ok. No we can’t fix all our problems in one election, but we could get our rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights back in one term. So here’s a little bit of realism for you. The candidate you‘re supporting thinks of your rights the same as King’s of England before the Magna Carta was signed. Good luck with that.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:14amI think DHS should focus more on radical christianity than radical islam. than maybe that can change.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:05amI don’t trust any politician… I don’t trust the government… The longer they stay there, the power there corrupts them… Almost everyone puts earmarks in their bills. Even Ron Paul, even if he then goes and votes against those same earmarks! Why can’t he make a stand and not even allow the earmarks to enter bills for his district at all? I don’t ever want to be a politician…
I know his arguement, is ‘that’s just how its done in washington’. But if he doesn’t believe in those things, why stick with it? Where is his principles!
He doesn’t like career politicians, and wants term limits, but is himself a career politician! Uh, why can’t he hold to his own principle and given himself a term limit years ago! George Washington did! We need a new George Washington… Not just someone does the talk, but does the walk in every way… But eh, let‘s be fair even George Washington wasn’t perfect.
If anything it would have been better, if he had termed himself, and fought outside of congress.
Every single politician in congress is flawed in some way, hypocritical… They say one thing and do another… Ron Paul is no exception. His message is good, I just haven’t seen evidence that he stands up to 100% of the time.
However, at least he hasn’t made things worse than alot of other politicians… The fact that he hasn‘t gotten ’alot of things done’ that is to say passed very many personal bills is a good thing. It would be a whole lot better if politician
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:32amAlso who do you think I endorse? I don’t endorse King George Obama III, who would love to become a dictator, under pre-magna carta powers…
Nor do I trust Romney either… Perhaps I‘m cynical I don’t trust nor endorse any career politician not to abuse his power in office… Even new comers are corrupted shortly after entering congress… I especially avoid anyone who has cultured a cult of personality.
Nah unless we reform congress en masse, with likeminded invidiuals we’ll never get a president with like minded principles. It is the electoral college that decides who will win… If the system was working as it originally intended, we should be voting for the representives who would then vote for senators of like minded inviduals. But as it is, the people vote for senators and represantives that are often at odds…
Unfortuntately Ron Paul if he was president, will probably have all his ideas vetoed by the corrupt congress. Especially by dems. He‘d be forced to become a ’benovolent dictator’ and issue executive orders or be neutered in power… Much as is the situation with Obama currently… That is no guerentee that the next person won’t just undemrine everything he put in.
Unless we fix the balance of the separation of power, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:04pm@Sacred Honor, It’s not that I disagree, but lost at how to reform congress. We sent a message in 2010, and EVERY one of them betrayed us except for Rand Paul the minute they got there. Yet, we see people on here swooning at the likes of Allen West. And the folks like me that bring attention to his actions in congress are berated and called every name in the book for it. The media isn’t getting the word out and people are too busy tyring to make ends meet to research everything they should to make wise decisions. The only thing I can think to do is draw a line in the sand and say, I will not vote for anyone that would repeal our rights at every level of the government.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:07pmAll I can say, is put fire on newcomers, and get rid them of them if they don’t uphold the values they were voted in for. Either through normal elections, or use recall elections if need be? Of course you need to see if you an convince the majority to go along with the recall.
We still need to get those term limits in place… It’s a tough issue… and its not going to happen over night… But we the people need to remain vigilant, educate others, vote with our feet and voices…
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:22pm@SacredHonor1776:
There are a couple of very good reasons a Paul should have been nominated and supported:
1) SCOTUS appointments — I’d a lot rather have Paul appointing these folks, than Obama or Romney.
2) The Veto. Paul will use it correctly and often.
That is all.
Report Post »Joey Joe Joe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:42pmI don’t see anyone over the age of 25 in those pictures. I’m sure they know so much more than everyone.
Report Post »Malcom0983
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:53pmYou don’t see any service men or women or contractors in those pictures either but he has the majority of them locked up. Are you saying that the men and women that come in contact with foreign policy every day don’t know as much as you? Also, you’re not looking hard enough.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:54pmTheir just afraid to put their arse on the line in the time of war.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pmThey heard legalized marijuana and came running.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:04pmHe was right there with John Kerry tossing his medals over the WH fence.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:13amHow long until R.P. announces that he’s opening a commune in French Guiana?
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:42pmSOYBOMB- See Ron Paul has the same idea about the republican party as I do.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:21pmlol
and just imagine how many mistakes are made when 50% of the beaucrats are in charge of government. With that in mind, do people around here really think the US has never made huge mistakes? Why do people act like US has some sort of infallable God-like power?
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:24pmsorry – meant to say democrats controlling 50% of government….
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:34pmSorry, could not pass it up. LOL
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:51amCould not pass that one up.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:41pmThe only jerks I see are the one’s breaking the laws, stealing delegates illegally and changing the rules last minute. The only cowards I see is the GOP. If you wanted to really defeat Obama, you would try to join up but instead your playing to lose. Don’t cry to me when Romney loses in November.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:50pmWe just had that one a coming right.
Report Post »502_eagle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:52pmYou mean like how Ron Paul loads a bill up with pork for his district that he knows is gonna pass, then votes agaisnt it? That kind of character?
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:56pmWaH!!! WaH!!! WaH!!! Temper Tantrum.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:19amThe GOP has committed political suicide by treating Dr. Paul the way they have. We are witnessing the deliberate dismantling of the Republican Party. George W. Was one of the worst Presidents in history. A cantaloupe on the Democrat ticket could have beaten McCain and Dimwit Palin in 08. Now that Obama has been a disaster? The GOP nominates the sleeziest slick haired slime ball they couuld find. It’s a set up! The elite want the GOP extinct mainly for the fact of being Pro Life and Pro Faith in God. Romney is bby far the WORST candidate to square off agianst NoBama. Ron Paul would of destroyed him in a debate and at the polls.
Report Post »SILENT NO MORE
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:14pmInteresting that you didn’t mention granting rights to illegal aliens just before the election; nor mention the GoM moratorium because his largest contributor was BP, and how the Gov’t lied to us all about the # of barrels of oil were spilling out of a 24″ pipe. But, instead of dealing with the neglegent party BP, he shut down all companies, even though 40,000 wells have been drilled in the GoM without any such spill (do you think he may have been influenced by how the South votes Republican and to kill their livelihoods at the same time?); Arbitrarily sue certain States, Companies, People, yet, dropping charges against the NBP found guilty of Voter Intimidation because as Mr. Holder told Congress; “These are My People”; giving Billions to his “Brother-In-Laws” and big donors even though, they never had a chance to be successful and instead of working on policies to help the job market, he spent a year cramming his Socialist Healthcare program on us at midnight, Christmas Eve, and only by paying for votes, which now will control all Americans from craddle to grave (and, sending your medical records to the IRS; Took over GM, through out the Bondholders (1st Lien Holders under Contract Law), giving to his Buddies the unions their interests. And, now, we, the taxpayers are owed $56 Billion that we will never see and I might add the Stimulus only benefitted Unions; while creating 80,000 new regulation each year stifling small business and creating uncertainty for the e
Report Post »Edohiguma
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:40pmI wouldn’t have hurt my shin earlier if Ron Paul would have warned me that my dishwasher was open…
This is pretty damn laughable. Ron, just sod off already.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:45pmQuite right, Edohiguma.
I admire Mr Paul’s stance on a number of issues, but that remark was just plain silly.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:46pmThis guy gets more dillusional everyday DR.Paul it’s time for a psych eval.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:56pmIts quite clear none of you listened to the CIA, the 911 commission, or Osama bin Laden in his own words in a interview on CBS in 1998.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:29amMUTINY, That was an ABC interview. If you look even further back, we received warnings about bin Laden from LTC Ollie North when questioned by then Senator Al Gore during the Iran Contra interviews in Congress.
Report Post »KyleD
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:39pmWhat a horrible person this is. The more I hear him speak the more I dislike him. When I first heard him I thought he had some good ideas but just a little misguided. Now he seems like a cult leader trying to increase his flock of brainwashed.
The fact of the matter is the world is a horrible place. Bad things happen and just turning your back on that doesn’t change that. You have to put yourself out there boldly and let the world know you aren‘t going to stand around while the world around you festers with evil because once it’s done without the world it will head for you.
Sure, maybe those 3000 people might have lived but it would have only been because we wouldn’t have been worth the trouble. Why kick a dead dog?
Report Post »MachIV
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:33amPrecisely. It has become a cult movement, not a political movement and the crowd that follows him is too brain washed to see it for what it is.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:15pmA cult of people who … VOTE.
Good luck in November!
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:39pmLooks like every single Paul supporter in America showed up for that rally.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:38pmYeah, that will not go over well. Just when I though he, nevermind.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:37pmI‘m not looking forward to the mindless dribble we’re about to hear.
Report Post »StuartGots
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:45amI believe “drivel” is the word you’re looking for.
Report Post »libertyandresponsibility
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:32pmHe is such a POS
Report Post »booger71
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:40pmHe did run in 2000, it is his fault then. Oh wait, it would not have won in 2000 either.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:40pmIm done being nice about this clown that has been put up on a pedestal. He is a complete and total fraud, he has NEVER lifted a finger outside his 9-5 job description. He tells people what they want to hear, he whines about DC ramming things down our throats yet he and his followers are doing it to the nation.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:57pmFor you three ignorance must be bliss.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:58pmHow very delusional this old man has become, first you needed American men who were killers on those planes not pot smoking libertarians, now don’t get me wrong smoke pot and be someone whose only concerned about three feet around yourself all you want, but fighting someone actually takes physical courage.
Report Post »billyjackoil
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:02amGreat comment! The whole idea of of having that POS in charge would be devasting:
Report Post »1) Shutting down 780 foreign military bases and not spending $1 trillion on the military is certainly absurd.
2) He also wants to end the war on drugs, that would begin the process of dismantling our police state and would end our reign in the world of having the largest prisoner population, certainly don’t want to do that.
3) We might have to go back to the rule of law based upon the constitution instead of the rule of whim that GWB and BHO have used to make our lives so much better.
blaze7c
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:02pmSorry about Your Father. You are the FOOL repubic. You need to wake up you POS.
Report Post »502_eagle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:31pmDamn and I thought Obama was arrogant
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:31pmI can’t even begin to touch this one…If paul’s people were in charge?? Lol! Not even gonna go there!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:37amHe’s like the crazy uncle that you have to put up with on holidays … you have to act like you are listening .. but really he makes NO SENSE!
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:28pm“Ron Paul: 9/11 Victims Would Still Be Alive If ‘Paul People Had Been in Charge’”
That is utter insanity.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:36pmAgreed
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:43pmKind of like, kicking a bee hive and wondering why the swarm of bees is trying to sting you?
What If? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:55pmAZ they are more like killer bees and will attack just because you are not a bee.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:56pmThe only way Ron Paul‘s theory would be correct is if the USA was not the world’s leading superpower AND was not the epicenter of innovation, wealth creation, and personal liberty that people worldwide yearn for.
Ron Paul sounds more like somebody else we know (cough, Obama) rather than a defender of liberty.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:53amAZ- They are more like killer bees, they attack just because we are not bees.
Report Post »RevolutionChan
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:55amWhat’s more insane, is you believe everything the right wing propaganda machine tells you. You sick excuse for a human.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:09ambecause he would either stop it or not plan an inside job.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:03am“9/11 is no excuse for a muslim holocaust around the world, you crusader nutjobs.”
You are right. There are plenty of other reasons, growing by the day.
Report Post »CRJ
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:15pmI have often wondered if we had stayed out of other countries, and stopped training their people to use guerrilla warfare tactics. seeing that they end up using them against us in the end. would that make things better?
Report Post »the only thing that we would know for sure if we did stopped interfering in other Countries, would be that we did not do anything to provoke the attack if they did attack us. and this would be following the Constitution. and if they did go ahead and attack us we would be justified in our actions against them.
Trained by the U.S. war experts to fight the Russians in Afghanistan in the 1980s, bin Laden now trains and finances terrorist groups
OlefromMN
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:55pmRe: “RevolutionChan
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:55am
What’s more insane, is you believe everything the right wing propaganda machine tells you. You sick excuse for a human.”
I see Ron Paul supporters also use the left’s tactic of attacking the messenger as opposed to addressing the message. I am sure he (Ron Paul) is happy to have you in his flock. By the way, my wife, daughters, family and friends disagree with your statement on my existence.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:26pmAt the risk of the PaulBots acting like rude jerks again, Ron is an idiot.
Report Post »libertyandresponsibility
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:32pmDo you smell that?… They are coming…..
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:40pmHere comes the Alex Jones disciples!
Report Post »RamboTheDog
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:16pm+1 Shasta~
This is like saying “it‘s the gun’s fault”
I’ts OUR OWN POLITICIANS apathetic border/visa controls as most of the dirtbag terrorists were here illegally.
As long as RP has been in office what’s he really done about that?
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:31amYeah..well all of you guys are the Saul Alinsky victims. They like the clueless.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:31amMRGOODBYE…..as if you Beckistani’s are any better? You have got to be higher then a girraffe’s ass to take Glenn seriously.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:19am9/11 is no excuse for a muslim holocaust around the world, you crusader nutjobs.
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:47pmLORDCSMITH, Since RP is obviously not going to be in charge, where are you gonna run when Obama wins another 4 years?
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:51pmSHASTA, Your chains will be well deserved…..I hope it’s a Romney administration that puts them on you so all of us paulbots can enjoy a good laugh. You’ve been warned.
Report Post »ghendric
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:12pm(baaaaaaa!) What’s that little sheep??
Report Post »SquareHead
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:55pm@Shasta
Your posts are what TheBlaze will not censor, nor delay in posting. But I as a certified Paulbot, must have all of my post screened, and if the arguments make too much sense, then I they must be delayed a day or two before posting so fewer people will read them. If the arguments I make are too good, they usually don’t get posted at all, especially if there are links included that makes TheBlaze look bad.
You a certified Becktart, on the other hand with your brilliant deep thought and your shear logic and well founded arguments are what TheBlaze looks for to be posted in their comment section. Based on your deep thinking, I am sure you are one of the editors. I wonder which one?
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:42pmspoken like a true facist
Report Post »Passerbye
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:10amI took it as some kind of subtle sarcasm…you really think it meant it?
Pretty creepy.
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