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Ron Paul Bemoans Lack of Media Coverage, Rejects Invitation From O’Reilly

He‘s a candidate that’s getting a lot of media coverage about how little media coverage he says he’s getting.

Confused? So was Bill O’Reilly after Ron Paul rejected his invitation to come on his show, The O’Reilly Factor. Mediaite reports that O’Reilly extended the invitation right after he heard Rep. Paul tell Megyn Kelly he was being consistently ignored by the media.

Ron Paul Whines About Lack of Media Coverage But Rejects Bill OReillys Invitation

“Ron Paul is whining to Megyn, and then we invite him on and he doesn’t show up,” O’Reilly lamented to guest, Dick Morris on Wednesday.

Morris said Rep. Paul probably rejected the invitation because he thinks the candidate wouldn’t be able to address probing questions. O’Reilly and Morris discussed Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, and Rep. Michele Bachmann and decided they were the top three GOP candidates who could beat President Barack Obama in 2012.

Rep. Paul and O’Reilly do have a bit of history. “I have said to Mr. Paul’s face that some of his opinions are insane,” O’Reilly said, but that there is a steadfast group who love him.

O’Reilly and Morris discuss Rep. Paul’s concerns over coverage and his stance on big issues in this Meidiaite clip from Fox News right before the 3:00 mark.

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  • gdbhusker
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:36am

    @ republicorp……..turn msnbc off, and look at the congressional voting record for Dr. Ron Paul. What has he done??? are you insane??? he was one of the only objections to the patriot act… and after he read that pile of garbage..he went on a media tour to plead with the American people to call their senators and congressman…while he was doing this..you were no doubt salivating at the attack on our constitution…but it’s ok…I know the “T.V people” said it would make us all safe from them terrible bands of muslim terrorists ….hows that working out for you? he battled at length to stop the unprecedented power given to the DHS and Czars…he fought both republicans and democrats…his own party hates him, the libs hate him, why???? because he is one of the only public servants that IS A PUBLIC servant!!! he cares not about politics..but the AMERICAN PEOPLE and the preservation of our Constitutional Republic!!!! for G-DS sakes ..read something!!!!….

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    • mharry860
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:50am

      Thank you!

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:54am

      I’ve read plenty. He’s a loon. His own words actually show this. I could repeat my other posts, but I‘ve grown tired of yall’s bromance with Paul. You refuse to actually think for yourselves. Kinda funny actually because you accuse everyone else of the same thing.

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    • positive1
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:54am

      Salute!!!

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    • Maxim Crux
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:03am

      I agree, if you want to be in the center of things…neither left, nor right, get back to the constitution. Being to the Right in today’s congress is still far left of the middle and much closer to the extreme left.

      Bill Oreilly, you were wrong on every account about everything happening from the very beginning. Why anyone tunes into you anymore for your so called factor is beyond me. Here is a new word for you to consider, “Pandering” because that is what you do on a nightly basis. Go ahead and continue to go with the nonsense that fills your arrogant sails. How can an opinion show be associated with the word fact anyway?

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:12am

      Some of Ron Paul’s ideas are bizzare and/or totally unrealistic (if you don’t know what they are and consider yourself informed, then i am sure I couldn’t convince you on the matter). Still, I would vote for him if it were a choice between him and Obumbler.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:44am

      I asked “what he has accomplished”. Could you give me a few examples? Like this was his bill or he stopped this from happening. Or he took the leadership role and ______ …. Anyone can run their mouth. I am looking for something you can directly credit to him.

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:22am

      Shikezi, I refuse to go look for your posts on the subject of Ron Paul, so please do explain otherwise you are no different than the lib trolls. I mean you were not tired enough of putting him down, to leave that comment, you might as well go the extra mile, right?

      Maybe you are playing the “Crazy ol’ Paul aint even worth my time.” bit…. Please who is not thinking for themselves. I totally respect Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh, they are both great people but I do have enough mind of my own to think outside of their boxes, and disagree with them from time to time.

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:33am

      And it’s not about what he has accomplished, it is about what he has stood for without wavering on any of the issues. He is not bought off with special interest or corporate money.

      If you have two opposing groups of people who rely on the same thing (power) for their careers, of course anyone who wants to strip some of that power away will get shut down by both groups, and not get anything done…..so it’s not about what he has “got done” it’s about what he stands for….I have no doubts in my mind that he would not sign anything that goes against the constitution, or the liberty of the people of the united states.

      And that my friends, is why I will WRITE IN Ron Paul if he is not nominated. I no longer care about the “cutting the vote” political game talk….We are hanging on by a thread, and I’m going to go all in on Ron Paul…..We don’t have much to lose anymore anyways…..

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:46am

      BALLOT_BOX_REVOLUTION (Paul) All talk,no show? A leader is the inspiration and director of the action. He is the person in the group that possesses the combination of personality and leadership skills that makes others want to follow his direction.*** leadership is welded to performance*** Anyone can cast a vote it doesn’t make you a Leader.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:15am

      It is amazing so many are speaking false truths and not actually comprehending what occurred. 

      Bill sent an invitation and did not hear back from Ron Paul‘s team is what I understand from Bill’s show and other media outlets. So is stating Ron Paul rejected the invitation truth or false witness? 

      Dick and Bill make 3 talking points. 

      Iran Nukes-The only way to stop Iran from gaining Nukes, assuming Israel can’t win on her own, would require war and occupation of Iran. If you think we can just bomb their reactor and not see attacks here, your not being honest. So those criticizing Paul are for war and occupation of Iran. Bush did nothing to stop Iran but invaded Iraq. Obama has done nothing to stop Iran but bombs Libya. 

      Gold standard-Dick and Bill must believe fiat money is ok. Keynesian economics is absurd!  Increasing the supply of money to “grow” the economy doesn’t work. Ron Paul points out endlessly it leads to bubbles which burst as we have seen. 

      Drugs-Look up prohibition of Alcohol and the effects of it and then look at the drug cartels. By being banned drug cartels use our children to push their drugs. Our children is the target. If legal, it could be controlled as tobacco and alcohol resulting in less kids statistically doing drugs. Decriminalization would lead to less inmates. Abuse of drugs could be treated as an abuse illness like alcohol. 

      Bill and Dick aren’t being honest

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:00am

      @Republicorp

      “I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism” Ronald Reagan 

      “A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”

      “To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. . .I place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.”

      “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.”

      “The care of every man’s soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills.”

       ”I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous then standing armies.”

      All quotes but the first are of Thomas Jefferson who Ron Paul sounds like. Is there any other candidate that speaks like our founders? Nope. 

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    • LibertariansUnite
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:23am

      Bill O’Reilly generally has no idea what he is talking about.
      I think the last episode I watched was when he made the statement “The Federal Government should attempt to curve bullying in schools”.

      Really O’Reilly? That ISN’T big government? Get real.

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    • Corneo
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:31am

      I have little to no knowledge of Ron Paul. I read post all the time of people who support him but I never read what his (not yours, but his) answers are. I know for a fact he has refused a Tea Party political event in Florida while other candidates have confirm to attend by team or in person for the event.
      I am looking for a person who will stand up for what they believe in. To face all news media and answer their questions.
      If he blows off O’Reilly, he will lose all attention from me as a possible person to vote for. I want to hear him speak on the issues, not his supporters.

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    • Cat
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:40am

      Unlike Shrek, Ron Paul has entangled layers.
      Be careful folks, or we’ll have another 4 years of O!

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    • ozz
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:11am

      Ron Paul is dead on. His voting record matches what comes out of his mouth. The media does cover him and from both sides, but they edit him to appear to say things that he does not. I have seen the full clips they do not show beside what airs. They try to make him look weak on defense and an isolationist for example. He is actually strong on DEFENSE, he just does not think we should militarily butt into other nations affairs as readily as we do. He is far from an ISOLATIONIST, he thinks we should build stronger trade relations and friendships with the whole world.
      Most of the media does not give him decent coverage. They down play his chances and try to make him look bad. It is not really coverage if you do not get a chance to get your message out.

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    • Seabee79
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:56am

      Paul has as much chance as a snow ball in hell to be president.

      I‘m not saying he isn’t correct on a lot of things, but face it paul supporters he isn’t going to win.

      Now with that said if a republican beats Obama in 2012 I would like to see paul take over the FED
      Paul would stop their BS.

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    • Jack Rackham
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 8:32am

      Right on. Conservatives are already used to spotting media bias so when the conservatives marginalize Ron Paul who is the real front runner in the GOP we see right through it. Ron Paul can win the primary and the general. His isolationist views make him unpopular among some conservatives but also attracts some on the left.The world is changing and it might just be time for Ron Paul.

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    • proudpatriot77
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 8:54am

      O Reilly is an idiot and I respect Congressman Paul and his record. He is the most consistent candidate. My problem is that I hear him object to things (rightly so), but I am not sure what his alternative would be. The Patriot Act may really suck, but how would Ron Paul fight terrorism? We shouldnt be the World Police, but how would Ron Paul handle foreign issues? I am not sure complete isolationism could work right now. I hate what the Fed Reserve does, but what is his solution for an alternative? If he could clearly explain this, he would win hands down.

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    • brainpimp
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 9:11am

      He’s an isolationist kook.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:04am

      I wonder what all these neo-zionists will do when Ron is nominated. I bet they support Obama.

      I can see the blaze running ahead of the curve like they supported Ron the hole time. You know Glenn will.

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:18am

      We have all heard Glenn Talk about Coolidge, and how he is one of Glenn’s Favorite Presidents. And we all know why this is so. Coolidge pulled us out of a depression, and started the roaring 20′s. Well here is some more info on him, and it sounds a lot like a Ron Paul situation:

      At the 1920 Republican National Convention most of the delegates were selected by state party conventions, not primaries. As such, the field was divided among many local favorites. Coolidge was one such candidate, and while he placed as high as sixth in the voting, the powerful party bosses never considered him a serious candidate. After ten ballots, the delegates settled on Senator Warren G. Harding of Ohio as their nominee for President. When the time came to select a Vice Presidential nominee, the party bosses had also made a decision on who they would nominate: Senator Irvine Lenroot of Wisconsin. A delegate from Oregon, Wallace McCamant, having read Have Faith in Massachusetts, proposed Coolidge for Vice President instead. The suggestion caught on quickly, and Coolidge found himself unexpectedly nominated.

      Running for President after Hardings term was over:

      It was easily the most subdued campaign since 1896, partly because the President was grieving for his son, but partly because Coolidge’s style was naturally non-confrontational. The other candidates campaigned in a more modern fashion, but despite the split in the Republican party, the results were very similar to those of 1920.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:21am

      @Corneo,

      “I want to hear him speak on the issues, not his supporters.’

      I can get you his own words on practically any issue. Make a list of topics, and I will make a list of links.

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    • ClassicalLiberal
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:56am

      Thats right GDBHUSKER.

      For em Ron Paul is voting with my conscience, even if I have to write him in.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:39am

      @BRAINPIMPLE
      Members of the military have sent Ron Paul more campaign contributions than they’ve sent President Barack Obama and more than twice what they’ve sent other Republican presidential candidates.
      They must be “isolationist kooks” as well. hmmm?
      http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/jul/23/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-members-military-have-given-him-far-/

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    • jkendal
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:54am

      Chuck Stein
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:12am
      …”Still, I would vote for him if it were a choice between him and Obumbler.”

      There it is – the difference between Ron Paul supporters and the rest of us. If he‘s the GOP candidate I’ll pick him over zero in a heartbeat – as will millions who aren’t Paul supporters. HOWEVER… If he ISN’T the GOP candidate, will the Ron Paul supporters still vote GOP to prevent zero from winning? I‘ve read many that have said they won’t. There is no perfect candidate but if we don’t get behind THE candidate, zero will win another term. Just ask yourself if you can live with that. I know I can’t…..

       
    • SDBorn
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:09pm

      Ditto!!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:29pm

      @jkendal,

      “HOWEVER… If he ISN’T the GOP candidate, will the Ron Paul supporters still vote GOP to prevent zero from winning? I‘ve read many that have said they won’t.”

      Ron Paul supporters understand that BOTH the Dems and Repubs have grown the size of government to increasingly tyrannical levels, so our perspective is that whether Obama or an establishment Republican gets elected, it won’t make a significant difference as to the direction of our once great Constitutional Republic.

      For us, a vote for Ron Paul is probably our last chance to save America from both the Nanny/Police State Collectivists and the Warmongering Theocrats (or, now, the Warmongering Collectivists. LOL).

      We are willing to make the case for Ron Paul to those who care to listen. Once you understand that Ron Paul is the most Constitutional, and once you understand Austrian Business Cycle Theory and how it enabled Ron Paul to know, in 2003, that the Housing Boom would bust, it’s pretty difficult to want to vote for anyone else.

      So, yes, I think you are right when you suspect that many Ron Paul supporters, including me, would write him in, even if we knew it could dilute the anti-Obama vote such that Obama would be re-elected.

      But you’re welcome to try and convince us why you think another candidate has a better track record. It‘s the only way we’ll change our vote.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:11pm

      There’s an interesting debate going on between Mark Levin and Mike Church on Sirius/XM Right. Church is a Constitutionalist coming on at 6 am and Levin is the GWB interventionist Neo-Con coming on everyday at 6 pm.. Man it’s getting nasty too.

      I believe we have now officially have a major problem in the Republican Party. Google this debate and get up to speed on it. It’s pretty obvious where the two stand but these are two major league hitters.. Interesting reading.

      I no longer know if I can support another Neo-Con. I may consider Bachmann simply because I believe she is sincere in her errant beliefs and Perry has made a few comments lately suggesting he would restrain from using our Military all over the globe.. Regardless more and more Americans are beginning to see the Wisdom in Dr. Paul‘s positions so there’s still hope for 2012!

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    • S_Malc13
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:14pm

      I saw the segment with Megyn Kelly. He wasn‘t ’whining’ as Bill condescendingly puts it. He didn’t bring it up. She did and he didn’t want to talk about it, he wanted to talk about the issues. Why does anyone want to go on Bill’s show since he continues to browbeat his guest? I lost respect for Bill when he thought he was gonna bully 0bama and Frank on his show, and they took his best shots.

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    • seabat471
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:20pm

      If Ron’s looking for a platform, he must know “The Factor” isn’t the place to be. Bill has a penchant for talking over guests. Best take that message elsewhere, to be clearly understood.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:36pm

      @Tech

      That debate is getting ugly! 

      Look at these polls. Ron Poll is doing better then portrayed. 

      Did you also know Ron Paul won the New Hampshire young Republican Primary with 45%. 

      Anyone wanting to hear Ron Paul on foreign policy and domestic issues simply go to ronpaul2012.com and watch the two youtubes on the homepage. Ron Paul also addresses the media issue. What a humble man. Check it out! 

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Well put !

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    • republic2011
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:00pm

      You are right on. The Constitution protects everyone, right, center and left. Ron understands this and has always stood for protecting the Constitution (ironically, the oath his colleagues swore to, as well, but have all forsaken). The Republicans are trying to keep him in the closet when, in my opinion, he is the only candidate that appeals to both right and left and most independents. Because he is fighting for the rule of law, limited government, getting out of unnecessary foreign engagements (wars), and getting back to some semblance of sanity with respect to our currency. O’Reiley, and Morris can go spit. They are as progressive as they come. They just want to make sure we get another worthless progressive in office. Look what Bush did for us…and then Obama. you want more of that? I don’t.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:11am

      Want to see Bill OReilly straighten-up? Turn OFF his show!

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    • Ordie69
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 12:03pm

      Too many have strayed from the path of real conservatism. The Constitution is still relevant; just inconvenient to most politicians.

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    • Spero
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 12:27pm

      Why should Paul go on a show when he knows he’s going to get talked over? Dr. Paul is a smart, smart man, and O’Riley seems to be infatuated with the sound of his own voice.

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    • soup
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 3:38pm

      AMEN!!! You hit the nail on the head!!!

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  • ZengaPA65
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:34am

    O‘Reilly’s a schmuck anyway.

    Ron Paul 2012

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:38am

      Yup. It’s Ron Paul or more establishment puppets. GOP or Democrat, it doesn’t really matter.

      After all these decades of being right and consistent, it‘s time to give ol’ Ron Paul his chance.

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    • jonnydoe
      Posted on August 28, 2011 at 9:26pm

      I had to laugh when I read Morris saying “Rep. Paul probably rejected the invitation because he thinks the candidate wouldn’t be able to address probing questions.” Really? Bill asks probing questions? Please. I don‘t blame RP for not wanting to go on O’Reilly. All the guy wants to do is argue and yell over you and not let you speak. He’s as ignorant as that idiot Hannity.

      Stick with the few on Fox with at least enough sense to realize RP is a genius. Cavuto and Judge Napolitano.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m75P5_20HR8
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stDyF-FyX0o

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  • CicerosGhost
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:31am

    O’Reilly like many at fox, seem content only to their doctrinaire perspective of “big tent conservatism”….

    That is, unless it includes Ron Paul or those who support him. One may take offense, but I don’t see the point. News organizations are not representatives of a marketplace they are instead filters of a LIMITED perspective.

    Dr. Paul isn‘t representative of the FOX or the O’Reilly perspective filter, and so is mocked as outlandish or fringe.

    The American people may disagree but THAT fact, will not change the adherents. They will persist as they have, convinced of their perspective’s veracity, regardless…..

    So let them. Leave them to their own decisions as to coverage and let the results prove them in error.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:12am

      So very true. I’ve decided to tune out OReilly.

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  • riseandshine
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:31am

    O‘Reilly’s a pinhead.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:12am

      Yes. Yes, he is.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Yes. Yes, he is.

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    • Nauss
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:02pm

      I agree. Ron PAul didn’t get any coverage on the sunday shows and that is what he was talking about. Oh slly Bll-O,

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  • mrmikejohnson
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:30am

    O’Reilly has been off his game for about a month. He was completely insane on the debt ceiling debate. His position was the democrat position. He’s been advocating for a national sales tax. Then, with the presidential race coverage he’s no different than anyone else. He‘s talking about candidates hair and saying Ron Paul doesn’t have a chance.

    Let the viewers and voters determine who has a chance and who doesn’t; and stop talking about candidate’s hair. That’s CNN territory.

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  • deerjerkydave
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:30am

    I remember watching Glenn interview Ron Paul. It was such an awkward interview. I wasn’t left feeling inspired by Ron Paul. Let’s be honest, Ron Paul has hijacked the Libertarian Party by running as a Republican. He said himself that he would never get this type of exposure as a Libertarian.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:31am

      Duh. Just like the republican party was taken over by the Neo-Con progressive left before hand.

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:41am

      He didn’t just “say” he’d never get enough exposure. He proved it with flying colors. He had to go Republican.

      I think you’re looking at it backwards: Ron Paul isn’t the GOP hijacking libertarians… it’s libertarians hijacking the GOP.

      Drain BOTH swamps.

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:29am

    One trick pony. Ron is the quadrennial candidate. Love his ideas on the Fed. I still say he would make a G R E A T ! Secretary of Treasury.

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  • N37BU6
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:25am

    The government‘s actions don’t match up with the voters’ voices… and The Blaze‘s actions don’t match up with the readers’ voices.

    Interesting.

    The Blaze is an enemy of the people’s candidate, and supporter of the establishment ones. Not good… not good.

    This is Ron Paul vs GOP.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:27am

      I’d support Ron Paul, if he supported Israel. It’s about the only thing I disagree with him on… oh and the pot issue…

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    • conservative_teacher
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:33am

      Agreed! And Blaze, Ron didn’t “reject” Bill’s offer, he simply hasnt responded yet. Of course, you know that but the spin doesn‘t stop on Bill’s show. Shame on you.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:52am

      @Sacred Honor 1776

      Ron Paul does support Israel. He just doesn’t support using financial or military aid to any country to spread “democracy”. He doesn‘t believe you should be forced to aid and defend Israel thru tax dollars just as you shouldn’t be forced to aid and defend Muslim countries thru tax dollars. Your free to support individually who you wish. 

      Ron Paul believes drug abuse should be just that, abuse, and treated for what it is, an illness. Currently we just ignore the problem and use tax dollars to incarcerate those with such a problem. 

      Are you also against Alcohol? And did prohibition create the organized crime like we see in the cartels today? What is the difference? Is salt a drug? Should it be banned?   Ron Paul is consistent. Your smart enough to choose yourself. You don’t like it, don’t partake as I choose. I can control me, not you. You know what’s best for you, not me. 

      Please do not bear false witness around Ron Paul supporting Israel and drugs. Truth is before you so no reason to. Have a great night. 

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:12am

      That you would accuse me of ‘baring false witness’ leaves me not to take you seriously. I take that as an ad hominem attack, and it discredits your opinion.

      I see that a lot of pro-Palestinians love Ron Paul. That alone makes me worry.

      I do agree that we should stop sending our tax dollars to any country.

      As for ‘pot’ vs. ‘alcohol’ I don’t really care what you do, as long as it doesn’t interfere with my life. The problem is pot like alcohol does interfere with people’s lives. Drunk drivers are still a problem.

      We are starting to see higher rate of car accidents in states that have legalized pot. Now correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation, but its something to think about. If pot is increasing the number of car accidents…

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/more-accidents-with-drugged-drivers-as-medical-marijuana-use-grows/

      It’s something to think about.

      There are far worse drugs, that can cause violent outbursts (I suppose in some cases more from withdrawals than taking the drugs themselves)… So I guess I don’t mind someone having a right to kill themselves, I just want there to be a clear that that won’t interfere into my life.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7Zp41fByE

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:14am

      Also, I don‘t try to bare ’false witness’, it‘s possibly I simply don’t understand his perspective very well, and maybe I don’t agree with some of his perspectives.

      I don’t want to be forced to vote for anyone, and will make that decision on my own.

      I likely won’t be voting for Obama, because he is trouble.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:19am

      ron paul is the only honest man in congress.
      i don’t care what drugs are legal, people do them anyway. all we are doing is filling up jails and paying for these people that don’t need to be in jail.. they haven’t stolen, killed or harmed anyone but themselves… and even then, that is pure speculation, because pretty much everything is ok in moderation. who cares if someone wants to have a beer, i’m not going to jail them for it… when they start stealing from me to buy alcohol, nicotine, caffine, sugar or whatever other drug they want, then i would…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:25am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Ij-9TWBXw&feature=channel_video_title

      Here is one of Ron Paul’s supporters, who claim all of Ron Paul‘s opponents ’support apartheid’ and occupation by Israel against the Palestinians..

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:26am

      Putting people in jail over ‘use of drugs’ is generally pointless. I’d only put those who actually kill others through their drug use.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:48am

      Sacred HONOR 1776

      Please state who you support and I’ll provide links of that candidates crazy supporter. 

      You posting that link is the same as the MSM trying to portray the TEA Party as “crazies” as well by showing the few idiots that are in TEA Party. Same exact tactic is it not? 

      Honor???? 

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:53am

      that‘s why it’s up to the state to make the punishment for DUI higher…
      you are saying one bad apple spoils the bunch. you are saying that everyone is irresponsible, simply because of a few (when compared to the grand total).

      hating marijuana is like the which hunts. it’s all propaganda. pot < alcohol.
      pot, like most drugs, can be good for some people. everyone's chemistry and genetic makeup is different which, in turn, makes the reactions different. which is why they have more than one type of any prescription drug. because of "reactions" , aka "side effects" "side effects may vary".. why would they "vary"? exactly. because we are all different and react differently to the same drug.

      it is about abuse and irresponsibillity. that is the issue. not drugs.

      and charity is about personal beliefs. government is not a non-profit charity collection agency. they need to quit with this cr4p. if we decide one group is worth saving, we have to decide that they all are. this is why it's up to people to give to charities of THEIR choice. not up to the government to tax everyone for all charities. where does it end? there always someone in need. and that is why charities exist. the government is to protect our right to create these charities and organizations, etc… not take them over.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:56am

      I don’t really have a pick right not… I have problems with each of the contenders… I’m a former democrat, and now independent. I will probably vote against whoever ends up opposing Obama in the end…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08gTWqWrI4M

      “This thing is an entire mess, the Palestinians are virtually are in like a concentration camp, they have a few small missiles, but its so minor compared to the fire power of Israel who had nuclear, weapons. And they can turn off all the power, all the water, and whatever they want to the people in palestine”-Ron Paul, 1-3-09

      Uh huh…

      I say let his words speak for himself. He compared the Israelis to “Nazis”…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:05am

      That above argument is the same argument most pro-Palestinian supporters make about Israel.. that Israel is somehow evi l (TM), and Israel doesn’t have the right to defend itself, when it does, its being ‘evil’, and agressive. It’s exactly one of the things mentioned by Glenn Beck…. Although I knew of the argument long before Glenn Beck brought it up…

      Eh, I don’t really trust any of the candidates. Out of principles I might just right one of my friends or family into the Ballot. Worthless, but I know they will be someone I could trust.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:15am

      http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/2010/06/04/ron-paul-gaza-is-a-concentration-camp-israel-is-starving-palestinians/

      Here is another interview, where again accuses Israel of being a bully, and setting up a sorta ‘concentration camp’, and then defends Hamas, for being legitimate elected government, even if they are thuggish (US should just communicate and make deals with them, like we do with China, and Russia).

      I’m sorry, from what I’ve seen and know of Hamas, I wouldn’t deal with them at all!!! It’s a purely anti-semitic government down to the propaganda on they promote on their TV… Blood libel, kill the jews, etc…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:22am

      Sacred Honor 1776

      As for your Ron Paul quote….I’ll check into it before I consider it fact. 

      It is a mess in Israel/Palestine. Both Israeli and Arab are to blame as neither kept their word. Israel wants to block the Palestinian state Israel itself agreed to upon Israel’s birth. Palestinians elect crazies as their leaders who hate Israel since Israel has blocked their state’s existence even though agreeing to it. I say let the Arabs and Israelis fight it out themselves. Not our problem.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:25am

      I gave the link to the quote, you can listen to it yourself. It’s his own video blog.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:42am

      Minor correction due to a improper sentence construction, misplaced word, I should have said I will vote for anyone who opposes Obama.

      I just have reservations that some of the contenders’s policies may also be bad for the country.

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    • louise
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:29am

      To those on here who say Ron Paul is an isolationist:

      Before any of you who claim that Dr. Paul would be “good” if he only supported Israel, You must first ask yourselves one question: Do I REALLY want a president who will uphold our country’s Constitution?
      For his whole political career, RP has been preaching the importance of following our Constitution.
      This is a man who will uphold his oath of office. His record testifies to that. He is not a stupid man. He knows Israel is an important ally. He is just telling the TRUTH about how Israel is more than capable of defending herself. Would America leave Israel to flap in the wind if she was attacked from all sides? NO. But America has no business preventing Israel from defending herself as SHE sees fit. I say this to Israel…it is your country, and if an enemy attacks you, you do whatever YOU deem best in that situation. Israel certainly does not need the permission of America!!! Would we ask permission if it was us?

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    • JustJerry
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:13am

      Ron Paul wants America to get out of Israels way and let them do what they need to do. That is exactly what he said in the debate. We as a nation have been dabbling in Israels foreign policy and keeping them from doing what they need to do.

      Americans are free to support any country they choose. Does it not make sense to send your own money to support Israel? if you believe so strongly that they need our help, then help them.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:17am

      No surprise here is yet another interview with Ron Paul in which he compares Israel to the Nazis…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYNLXYLM44c

      He compares Israel’s “onslaught in Gaza is an atrocious massacre”.

      “He [President] justifies it on moral grounds, they have a right without ever mentioning the tragedy of Gaza, real problems that are there. To me I look at like a concentration camp, and people are making homemade bombs, like their the aggressors.”

      He alludes, its really Israel that’s the real aggressors, and those poor Gazans are just trying to defend themselves from a more violent invading force…

      He goes onto say that he’d like to say that he” thinks that the Palestinians have been ripped off, and that all the blame is on Israel”, but by saying that he stepped in more than he wants to… that he’d be better off keeping his mouth shot.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:15am

      @Sacred Honor 1776

      Maybe you ought to clean out your ears and listen to what he said. You are trying your hardest to degrade Ron Paul. 

      Ron Paul said Gaza is like a concentration camp. That is true, it is like that. 

      Ron Paul compared Gaza’s home made bombs compared to Israeli (USA) weapons. 

      Ron Paul CLEARLY says we can’t tell either what to do. Ron Paul criticizes our blind allegiance with just Israel and CLEARLY says this blind backing of Israel with financial and military aid will cause harm for us in the middle east. We will catch the blame causing more trouble in the World. He spoke truth…. 

      Ron Paul again says we can’t tell either what to do and if either has a problem they should handle how they see fit. 

      Quit trying to twist the words of Ron Paul. Israel can decide what is best for herself. 

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:18pm

      Gaza is not a concentration camp… It’s a terrorist nation, an Israel has the right to defend itsel from tem and blockade them as they are anti-Semitic killers. They want to kill the Jews. I Stan with Glenn Beck on this issue. You probably didn’t hear the Restoring Courage events.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:12pm

      @Sacred Honor 1776

      Yes Gaza resembles a concentration camp. Go visit and you will see just that. It is appalling. 

      No, Gaza is not a terrorist Nation. It is a territory that has terrorists in it but it is yet to be a Nation. 

      Yes Israel has the right to defend herself just as Gaza has the same right. Israel can blockade Gaza and by doing so knowingly declares war on the territory they are blockading. Isn’t that international law? 

      Semitic is both Jew and Arab as both came from Shem. Both speak Semitic. Educate yourself so you don’t sound so foolish. 

      Stand with Glenn all you like, good thing we have that freedom. Did I hear his events? Yes. Was not too impressed and also thought Glenn was just telling the Israelis what they want to hear instead of having courage and telling them to accept Jesus as Christ. 

      Again, Israel and Gaza can fight all they want. It does not pick my pocket. It is their business, not mine. Why do you think it is your business? It isn’t….

      Israel has nukes, air force, army, navy, and a spy agency like ours. Gaza has what shoulder rockets…

      Ya Gaza is a real threat to Israel….

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:55pm

      I seriously doubt you have ever been to Gaza yourself.

      I do know that I’ve seen that it has really fancy resorts for the elites funded through supplies first from black market, and now the open border with Egypt. I’ve seen images/videos of Hamas torturing, and knocking down its own people’s homes. Hamas placing its missiles in school compounds so kids will be hit if Israel retaliates.

      I also know that Israel blockade doesn’t stop food and basic suppllies aid. They only block things that could be used as weapons.

      The act of war was Gaza first unleashing missiles on Israel… Israel retaliated, and set up the blockade…

      I don’t care who has, ‘better weapons”… Gaza uses makeeshift missiles, missiles brought in from other countries, and they intentiobnally target civilian targets in Israel. School buses, and such. They also are willing to brutally kill families, by murdering them in the night, in their own homes… As Jon Voight said, since when have these tactics become valid forms of “resistance fighting”? I have studied the nazi-like anti-jew hate videos by hamas

      We will have to agree to disagree. I don’t agree with you. I likely won’t be voting for Ron Paul. Who you vote for is your decision. But I haven’t heard enough from him to convince me he is the right decision, and there are certain things I am diametrically oppose. Your viewpoint isn’t likely to make me change my mind. Since clearly you keep the ame viewpoint that has pushed me away from

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:17pm

      On a related note, the anti-israel, pro-palestine stuff sounds awefully alot like Code Pink talking points…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:34pm

      Oh yes the argument can be used to justify 9/11. Oh that powerful America with all it’s nukes, diggers and bombers, tanks and big guns. It’s always interfering with middle east buying Saudi Oil. trading with and supporting dictators. The poor underdog only has a planes, suicide vests, a few IEDs, or razor blades to defend themselves. They are justified in destroying symbols of American might, in the cause of Islamic freedom. It is they only way they can protest and US is the big bully flaring it’s might and power, and supporting corrupt regimes.

      Hell, this is no joke and was an argument I received from a Lebonese girl in the UK!

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:50pm

      Hell, I even got similar arguements from some of the anti-American anarchists there…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:56pm

      @Sacred Honor 1776

      Doubt how you wish but you seriously do not know me or where I’ve been sent thru my life. 

      Understand I’m Pro USA. Israel and Gaza can worry about themselves. That does not make me Anti anything. It is not my business. 

      The concentration camp of Gaza is largely due to the leadership of Gaza. It still resembles a concentration camp. 

      If Gaza has missiles like you said the blockade isn‘t working to well now is it and contradicts your statement Israel only let’s food in. 

      Being honest to myself I can’t say Israel is perfect and it is all the Palestinians fault as I see you doing. Has Israel done anything wrong in your eyes? You did not answer the simple question asked, Why do you think Israel/Palestine is your business? Please answer this one question. 

      I am not trying to change your opinion or who you vote for. I am simply clearing up your false statements around Ron Paul and his stance on Israel. Vote how you see fit. 

      Ron Paul won the New Hampshire young Republican Straw Poll with 45% two days or so ago! 

      On another note, interference and telling other sovereign nations what to do is Barack Obama talking points like we see in Libya and as we see him telling Israel to go to the ‘67 borders. 

      TEA

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:14pm

      @Sacred Honor

      Why did Osama say he issued 9/11? Take him at his own words like you say we should Iran. Funny thing is you ignore the why of the threat. 

      Google “Blowback”….. 

      This problem has been brewing for about 58 years or so. 

      It isn’t very supportive of Israel to sell billions of weaponry to all her Arab enemies……

      If you believe America should prop up dictators and police the World that is your choice. I believe America should follow the Constitution. 

      Responsibility is being responsible for ones self and ones actions. Blaming everyone but ourselves for these problems is very irresponsible. 

      Have a great day! 

      TEA

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:24pm

      Actually i‘d say if it was anyone one’s talking points it was more Regans. Obama has been trying to ‘mimic” Regean on some policies. Not very well mind you.

      “The concentration camp of Gaza is largely due to the leadership of Gaza. It still resembles a concentration camp.”

      Well, its one thing that you blame Hamas for turning it into a concentration camp.

      However, Ron Paul and some of his other followers put the blame on Israe insteadl. He called Gaza a concentration camp, and then explains that Israels is the agressor, of committing the ‘act of war’ on the poor Gazans… It’s all rather blatant, he was clear who he believed was at “fault”.

      He also went on to legitimize Hamas as a rightfully elected democratic government in those above interviews. There is very little criticism of Hamas. Even his calling Israel of “Act of War” by definition of war, legitimizes “Gaza” as a nation.

      I agree, Israel isn’t very good at keeping weapons out of Gaza. They try their best. Because Palestinians, Jews, and Christians are all killed by Gazan missiles being fired ino Israel.

      Israel is the only nation in the region whose government actually allows all religions to live together equally. Christians, Jews, Secularists, Athiests are all persecuted and killed in most of the others.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:33pm

      I believe like Glenn we should be supporting nations that are friends and share western-style governments. I don’t really support us getting into civil wars in other nations, or supporting dictators, or helping another dictator into power. In Libya it’s hard to tell who we are supporting… Both will probably be dictators in the end. So I don’t think we should support either.

      Israel is on the other hand another western democratic nation like England, France, or many European nations. Which I think we should support as long as they aren’t trying to declare war on us or undermine our own right to govern.

      Hell, if Ron Paul had been around during WW2, and been an non-interventionist… Britain would have fallen, Russia probably still would have won (if the Nazis and Commonists hadn’t kept their treaty), but they probably would have went further to try invade the rest of Europe, and take those places Nazis had captured. Alot more Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, and anyone who disagreed with the Nazis would have probably died. Not to mention there would be alot more who would have died under Stalin.

      They say American were Isolationists during WW1 and WW2 this isn’t true, we were more non-interventionists. We were trying to remain neutral, selling weapons and supplies to all sides. At some point we stopped supporting the Axis powers, and they still took our involvement as ‘choosing sides’.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:36pm

      Hell the only way to be truly non-interventionlist would be to stop trade with all other nations, and just keep everything to ourselves. That would be the only way to make sure that no other nation would be ‘jealous’ or accuse the US of taking sides, or selling stuff to their “enemies”!

      But that would probably be described as ‘isolationist”.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:38pm

      Hell, many of the founding fathers tried to be non-interventionalist during the founding years. But the muslim pirates (we‘d call them ’terrorists’ now) still tried to kill and enslave americans. It was Thomas Jefferson that decided we needed to fight to defend ourselves, and the nations friendly to America! This was known as the Barbary Wars!

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:56pm

      @Sacred Honor

      You didn’t answer why Israel/Palestine is your business. Why not? 

      Israel is not perfect. To believe as such shows you are not standing in truth or being responsible. 

      If your proclaiming Israel is nice to Gaza then your not being honest at all. 

      If Gaza isn’t Israel, then Israel has no say over Gaza and Israel shouldn’t try to have say over them. 

      Was Hamas legitimately elected by the Palestinians? YES that is truth whether you like it or not. 

      You don‘t agree Israel doesn’t keeps weapons out, you said Israel does keep them out. Read your own post! 

      Israel can mind her own affairs. Gaza can mind her own affairs. USA isn‘t and shouldn’t be a part of that equation. 

      Think as you wish just stop speaking false truths as if they are fact. 

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:21pm

      Sacred Honor
      You think Glenn is for sending military and financial aid to Israel? There is a guy HugeNot Descendent who would freak on you for saying that. Just a heads up. Glenn says he is Libertarian and says Israel can decide for themselves according to HugueNot Descendent. 

      Does Israel have a Constitution? No
      Is Israel’s Government like ours? No
      Libya sent more troops to fight American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan then any other country. Now we are arming them and teaching them how to fight. That’s interventionist policy for you. Same policy your advocating. 

      A non-interventionist trades with other countries but does not try to influence those countries. You know like the founders said to do.  

      “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.” Thomas Jefferson

      The wars you speak of in Tripoli was from being attacked on trade routes. See how it says attacked. They attacked us and we beat their rears. Did we occupy and try to prop up a dictator? NO Did we attack them, NO. 

      If you do not like Ron Paul, why spend so much time talking about him and speaking ignorant non sense about him? 

      Sacred Honor stop your hate campaign. Be responsible. My last post to you. Peace out….

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:52pm

      You seem to think I hate “Ron Paul”. No where have I said I hate Ron Paul…

      I’m no long going to try to explain my POV with you, as we don’t seem to understand each other, and you seem to want to misread my points….

      There is also that annoying ‘character limit” issue… So I can’t put in a more detailed debate than I would like to.

      I don’t understand what you mean that “glenn doesn’t directly support israel”. On his show he mentions many times that America needs to stand with Israel and prevent it from being wiped out. If it is wiped out, he says the US will be next. How do you prevent it from being wiped out? Now what he means by “defense” who knows. I doubt it is just stand around, and “let them fend for themselves”. Stand in defense usually has a physical meaning.

      I will say, one thing, as an analog to the border issue. Take for example the US, it could attempt to limit illegal aliens from crossing the border. But even with a wall, they will still get in. Oh yes we try, but things still get by. In the meantime people in the world say were are illegally occupying the boarder.

      The same goes for the Israel, they can try to block access between Israel and Gaza, but obviously things still get by. But they still try anyways. Fully opening up the borders isn’t going to stop the violence, since Gaza call for 100% destruction of Israel.

      It seems to me everytime “israel” or US defends themselves, they are being evil. Sure both are not perfect,

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:02pm

      The problem with Libya, is we overthrow one dictator, and support Al Queda.. Which makes little sense, since Al Queda is supposedly are enemyh in Afghanistan…. I‘d rather we didn’t intervene with “Libya”. I could care less about Libya, as no side there is worth supporting, one is going to be a ‘lesser of two evils’.

      I supporting standing with Israel however, as they are true friends. Just as I would stand with Britain, as long as they remain as they do currently.

      While Israel never written a formal constitution like the US, it has an ‘operative constitution.
      http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles/const-intro-93.htm

      I don‘t know if you missed today’s episode but Glenn Beck went through explaining their government system, and why its not an Arpatheid government. One such thing is every citizen of the nation has a right to vote.He also mentioned it is fully recognized nation by the UN. Now is he lieing?

      All of these nations need improvements. But they are certainly better off than most of the middle east…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:08pm

      BTW, you seem to suggest Glenn Beck is a libertarian like Ron Paul? I don’t get that, infact multiple times on his show he has critized Ron Paul on many of his beliefs. Sometimes ridiculing them. Infact, many Ron Paul supporters don’t have much love for Glenn Beck…. He has had people on his show that downright attack Ron Paul’s beliefs. Some people just disagree on points.

      I have seen Glenn Beck criticize Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. But Glenn’s seems to always jump in to support defense of Israel.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:13pm

      Oh, and just last week, Glenn was discussing on his Radio Show how most of the videos produced by the Gazans, showing as he put it, “supposed” human rights violations by Israel, are faked. He discussed how most of them are made up of special effects, reused footage, same ‘actors’ reprising similar roles in different areas. So someone who ‘died” mysteriously gets up, and repositions themselves. Sometimes having Gazans act like they are IDF soldiers, and ‘act out’ brutality.

      I’ve been shown many of these videos by experts as well, a British colonel even. He broke down how they were faked, and that most of them are faked. The times when it wasn’t many were accidental, or because Hamas had used civilians to defend a military target (launchers) used to attack israel.

      Sorry Gleen doesn’t sound like someone that has a non-interventionalist view of Gaza.. He definitely has sided with Israel, and he has said multiple times he believes Nintendo should defend it directly.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:23pm

      “We must have the courage to be peaceful, while recognizing the courage to defend and respond to threats and/or attacks when necessary. Turn the other cheek when possible.” From Glenn Beck’s “rights and responsibilities”

      So ‘respond to threats” seems rather ‘pre-emptive’ to me, and definitely not, ‘non-interventionalist. How does one define threats? For example, he has said he sees Iran as a threat, and one that we need to interfere with. He has ridiculed Obama for being weak on Iran. He has said take Iran’s threat at their word. He points out their leaderships, apocalyptic end world scenario (in which Iran wants to bring the end of the world).

      Ron Paul has said at times we should allow Iran to do whatever it wants to do, and not interfere. He believes that if we don’t interfere, and instead only talk to them, they will not be a threat.

      Really one who supports Glenn Beck, really can’t support Ron Paul or vice versa, as they have completely different viewpoints and outcomes.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:56pm

      That being said, the US and Israel are not perfect. They do make mistakes. They try to learn from them and get better.

      There are corrupt individuals in both, but there is alot more goodness.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 9:01pm

      Here are two clips on Glenn about being libertarian 

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOb6kjQdLQ

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FuEWxTvRGY

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:51pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIDDc8UodYQ

      Glenn Beck criticizes Ron Paul supporters.

      Glenn Might be ‘liberterian’ on some points, he‘s not libertarian on all of Ron Paul’s points.

      Even I landed on “libertarian” on the Nolan Chart that Glenn promoted. Although I landed more to the right side of libertarianism. (I took the test again, and I still land there, even when I take a more direct approach to world involvement and defense). No not the “World Police” option, and not the one world order ,or the Ron Paul options.

      http://www.nolanchart.com/survey.php

      Closer to where Glenn landed himself.

      Obviously Libertarians don’t necessarily all agree on all points.

      Ron likely falls more on the middle to left end of the Nolan Chart.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:56pm

      The thing is there is no ‘black and white’ in libertertarianism, and there is alot of shades of grey. Actually this could probably apply to any political perspective. There are more than one answer, its not a choice between two answers. There are choices on a spectrum. It may depend on all kinds of factors, and topics. Not everyone is going to agree on each point.

      One issue I have with the Nolan Chart quiz is though it doesn’t really cover all the other points that Liberterians often define themselves with. Drug issue isn’t in there for example. It would be interesting to see where that would send me on the chart.

      A question on abortions might also tip the scale a bit as well, towards conservative or libertal.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:11pm

      I’ve seen Penn Jillette define his brand of Libertarianism based on his Athiesm as well. Or rather he believes government shouldn’t be defined by rules or morality based on religious doctrine. Thus he is critical of any fundamentalism, America is “Judeo-Christian” government stuff.

      Whereas Glenn Beck defines much of his beliefs and how the government should be run by his religious views.

      That too might be an option that would make for a more accurate survey.

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    • Ordie69
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 12:30pm

      I have seen a lot of assumptions on Ron Paul’s “support” of Israel, but I have yet to see anything that is attributed to him stating that he does not, nor would not support Israel in a time of need? Until someone can produce that, I have to accept him at face value, which has been consistent for over 30 years. The fact that he believes that “other” nations should work out their differences without U.S. interference is a refreshing change from the rest of the global police crowd. I certainly do not see anyone else in the GOP field that has a history that matches the pandering they are doing now.

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  • snidley-whiplash
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:15am

    To be honest there are only two things I don‘t like about O’Reilly and Fox News for that matter THEIR FACE!

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    • Liberalismsamentaldisorder
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:24am

      So why do you watch?

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    • Steve
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:30am

      Didn’t know fox news had a face.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:30am

      O’reilly is the king of spin. He makes most propaganda look cartoony. I like how he has a guy who HATES Ron on to talk about Ron. Last time Bill would not even let Ron talk. I would not go on his show. O’reilly very well may eat babys.

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    • snidley-whiplash
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:37am

      Anarcho Capitalist you get it………….Both are two faced and for those that don‘t get it I’m just saying they talk out both sides of their mouth!

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  • Liberalismsamentaldisorder
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:12am

    paul definitely strikes fear into politicians from all sides. dems and repub establishment both hate him because he truly would restore power to the people and our 535 kings and queens in washington cannot stand for that

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:20am

      Paul would sink the country into chaos…not return it to power. Sit back and listen to the wannabe lib and you can see he’s just not thinking straight. He has some ok domestic policy, but outside of that…he doesn’t grasp the world we live in today.

      Go ahead and spout your rhetoric and your talking points ya Paul lovers…some of us have read all the info on Paul and still think he’s a loon. So talk smack all ya want…I call it like I see it.

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    • Liberalismsamentaldisorder
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:26am

      All I said was both sides fear him. I didn’t comment on his policies. Now that you bring it up, I nearly agree completely with his domestic policy, particularly on fiscal issues. Foreign policy? Far, far to isolationist to be practical.

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:43am

      I agree with you. A lot of his domestic policy is great. I don’t agree with his extreme approach on drugs and so forth, but like I said…most of it I agree with.

      As for his foreign policy. We won’t even go there. Whether ya think he’s an isolationist or a non-interventionist…..both are not what we need in the White House.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:05am

      @Shikezi

      Are you for banning alcohol as was done during prohibition? 

      I suppose you support Obama and the war in Libya with that New Conservative attitude like John McCain. Either you support war and Obama Libya war, or you do not support war except when attacked. Which is it? You can’t be for war when your candidate is in office and against when “their” candidate is in office….You support Obama’s war in Libya…..

      Why spend so much time trying to bear false witness about Ron Paul? you obviously didn‘t listen to Glenn’s message over responsibility. Might wanna go check it out…..

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  • N37BU6
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:11am

    “Ron Paul Bemoans Lack of Media Coverage, Rejects Invitation From O’Reilly”

    Should be changed to:

    “Bill O’Reilly whines about being snubbed by Ron Paul, who wants REAL media coverage”

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:23am

      Define “real media coverage” for us please. I was under the impression that MSM was hated by everyone and considered both bias and “nwo” sympathizers. So, if this is the case…where do you suppose he get this “real” coverage you want so much.

      Face it, he chickened out because he is just like Obama….without a piece of paper or a teleprompter…he chokes when the real questions are asked.

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:36am

      “Face it, he chickened out because he is just like Obama”

      Sounds like you‘re talking about O’Reilly vs Beck on Van Jones.

      Not wanting to face a one-man circle-jerk of endless egotism isn’t cowardice. It’s called not wasting your time on a proven waste of time.

      It’s clear you have no idea who Ron Paul is. If you consider Bill O’Reilly to be a hard-hitting interviewer, you’re insane. The man practically curled up in Obama’s lap. He was following a predetermined agreement, as proven by the fact that Obama didn’t storm out of the room like a 5 year old. You’re also insane if you see strength and leadership in any other candidate, as they are all shallow pageant contestants with shallow talking points and catch-phrases.

      Ron Paul trounces everyone in debates.

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:48am

      Ask Ron Paul tough questions about his policy and he backs out like Obama. He has no real idea on how to do things. He says…is it constitutional. Great, not a bad way to go about things, but wait. This is the same man who thinks its ok to allow Iran to have a nuke because who are we to say they can’t. This is the same man who wouldn‘t do a damn thing about Iran if they got a nuke because he doesn’t want to be involved in war. This is the same man who is so blind and out of touch with reality, he thinks Iran will not even use the nuke and just wants one because everyone else has one.

      Come back to the conversation when your ignorant Paul opens his eyes to reality. Till then, sit back and keep quiet. It isn‘t time for someone who can’t even recognise a threat.

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    • teapartyconservatism
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:08am

      @Shikezi

      Your comment presumes we are currently preventing or intend to prevent Iran from finalizing the creation of their own nuclear arms arsenal.

      Iran, essentially unaffected by sanctions and dismissive of western warnings, is merrily chugging right along with their nuclear enrichment and missile development programs. Indeed, Iran is unabated and apparently acting with absolute impunity as a primary exporter of terrorism. Iran also defiantly continues to fund and arm our enemy in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems Iran is unconcerned that America’s military might certainly long ago should have and still could be, brought to bear on them.

      Granted Iraq and Afghanistan do bracket Iran on their east and western borders, which could be a huge militarily advantage to us, if we ever decide to actually stop their nuclear weapons development by striking them militarily.

      Do you see that happening or is Ron Paul correct by default?

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  • 8jrts
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:11am

    O’Reilly is condescending…Paul may have a chance…who knows…..but I don‘t blame him for not going on this show and getting the O’Reilly bit done “to him”. I do watch Bill, but take him with a grain of salt cause he’s got his attitudes like most hosts do. I just try and do my own homework to make my own decision who is making the right choices for our country.

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:42am

      Bill is in it for his own popularity first. Everything else is secondary.

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    • Nauss
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:06pm

      bill oreilly is disrespectful and doesn’t allow his guests to make their point, so what’s the point of going on his show?

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  • Okie from Muskogee
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:02am

    Bill O’Reilly is very disrespectful of Ron Paul when Ron Paul goes on his show and also when Ron Paul is not there. 

    Second, “Dick” Morris’s opinion is being considered by conservatives!? Hahahahahahahahaha…….Absolutely hilarious……Dick Morris sitting there CRITICIZING Ron Paul wanting to restore the Gold standard and Bill agreeing with him should tell a lot of you just what your listening to. Odd isn’t it that neither Dick or Bill jumped on Perry about his remarks on the Fed……Hmmmmm?…Fair and balanced? Whatever! 

    They criticize Ron Paul on drugs and do not TRUTHFULLY state what Ron Paul is for. That is called lying or as Glenn stated in Israel, false witness. 

    They criticize Ron Paul as “isolationist” instead of non-internationalist as the founders were. Saying he would ignore everyone etc.  Lying, false witness. 

    Perry‘s record shows he isn’t traditional Conservative nor is he Tea. He’s fake. 
    Bachmann‘s record show she isn’t traditional conservative nor Tea. Double talk! 
    Romney’s record show he is as Progressive flip flop as they get. 

    And these two want to criticize Ron Paul. Sounds like someone has an agenda to spend so much time bearing false witness on Ron Paul. Keep listening to “Dick” Morris and see where it gets us……

    Bill is a shill! 

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:18am

      If Paul cowers away from mean old O’Reilly, then how can we expect him to stand up to crazy world leaders? If appearing on‘The Factor’ is too intimidating and stressful, how will he run the country and handle the left wing press once he gets in the White House?
      Not that he is not right about some things, but when it comes to confrontation, he is weak. And it shows in the debates I’ve seen.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:24am

      Rational Man
      Good point!

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:26am

      Actually, Paul is an isolationist…and those who cry otherwise are like ostriches with their heads stuck in the ground. So blinded by their bromance with Paul that you can’t even see the truth about him. As for his stance on drugs…didn‘t he pretty much say he’d legalise them all on national television…during a debate….cause you know, that kinda sounds stupid to me.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:39am

      @Rational Man

      Picking your battles is not weak, it is considered smart. Strategic planning tells us just that. 

      What reason does Ron Paul need to go on Bill’s show? Especially since Bill is inviting him after the fact? 

      Just some advice, don’t always jump when your prodded, as sometimes it’s the plan for you to jump…….Pick your battles….

      Stop bearing false witness. Ron Paul did not cower, is not intimidated or stressed. How many weeks since the debate and straw poll? And they bring this up now…..Bill is whining Ron Paul told him to buzz off….

      As for how would he handle the media? With truth and honesty, what else is needed? 

      Please stop bearing false witness and be sure to accept the responsibility of doing so…..

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:52am

      Please get your lips of Ron Pauls ass and actually think for a change.

      Ron Paul is the one whining about no coverage. He is offered it and turned it down. How is it picking your battles when you whine on one hand and then refuse an offer on the other. Kinda sounds like he wants to just whine.

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    • american1st
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:52am

      Shikezi
      —isolationist—-
      A national policy of abstaining from political or economic relations with other countries.

      —-non interventionist:—-
      Non-intervention is the norm in international relations and international law that one state cannot interfere in the internal politics of another state, based upon the principles of state sovereignty and self-determination.

      Ron Paul is clearly the second…. those that insist on calling him the former, are either showing there ignorance, or attempting to discredit him on behalf of the establishment he is challenging…

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:06am

      I know the difference between the two terms. I believe we all have google and can quickly look up definitions.

      The fact is simple. He’d allow the destruction of Israel before he would “interfere” with good old sovereign Iran. Now tell me, who is the more dangerous candidate…the one who would allow the destruction of innocent people because he’s naive, or any of the other candidates that are running.

      Wait…wait…wait. I forgot. You think they are all nwo stooges who are being told what to do. Because you know, you have proof of this. Oh wait, you don’t. You base it off assumptions and what you are told. I bet not a single one of you Paul lovers have once done any true research into any other candidate. You are no better than the mindless Republicans and Democrats who don’t do their research. You are told what to think by Paul and assume it is correct. You are so blinded by your infatuation with Paul you won’t accept anything else.

      Best way of dealing with people like that? Letting them spout their ignorance.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:09am

      @Okie from Muskogee
      “Picking your battles is not weak, it is considered smart. Strategic planning tells us just that.”

      So where is Paul going to do, “battle”? Do you think anyone on MSNBC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NPR, or anyone else on FOX would be a better pick than O’Reilly who has the biggest audience of them all?
      I‘m not sticking up for O’Reilly. He is a ********. But just who would you like to see interview your leader? Maybe Chris Matthews? Lawrence O’Donnel? Matt Lauer? Piers Morgan, Wolff Blitzer, Anderson Cooper? You think O’Reilly is a tough interview, just try one of those guys.
      It seems to me that if the interviewer isn’t a cheerleader for Paul, you guys would never be happy anyway………………….
      Paul might have just turned away from his best shot at an interview with the largest audience of people that you guys are trying to court into voting for Paul. It‘s O’Reilly’s audience your after, (Republicans). You don’t even have a chance with the left.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:15am

      Okie from Muskogee
      “Picking your battles is not weak, it is considered smart. Strategic planning tells us just that.”
      That is very true…unfortunately as a president you can’t always pick your battles and you do have to be able to step up to the plate and face what comes your way. If Bill O’Reily is too much, then maybe this is not the office for Paul.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:18am

      @Shikezi

      Such nice talk coming from you. You know so much more then the rest of us yet you can not decide not to partake in drugs and need government to tell you not to. Wow……How did prohibition work out for us? 

      Ron Paul has no need to go on Bill’s show so Bill can blast insults like he has before and like he did to Beck. 

      Stop lying about Ron Paul. It shows weakness and desperation when one resorts to lying.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:21am

      Oh come on Blaze! With all the garbage I have to put up with on here, (sometimes to the point I just leave), you censor the word ‘but head’ in my post? I guess I’m a bad Christian! I didn’t even know that was a dirty word. A little derogatory maybe, but not dirty. I hope this extreme censorship carries over to the really gross stuff too…..for a change……………………

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    • american1st
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:43am

      he would de-fund Israels enemy’s by ending all foreign aid, the US giving Israels enemy’s money harms far more than the aid we give them helps.
      he would remove US interference from Israels military and foreign policy effectively removing the leash that holds them back from defending themselves
      we have no more right to prevent Iran from getting the bomb than Mexico has the right to write our immigration policy or Canada has the right to blow up missile silos in the us if they don’t like them ….

      you cant have sovereignty for us, but not them,

      Israeli is well armed and perfectly capable of deterrence, the Iranians are not suicidal they understand the “big stick” and Israeli already carry’s one

      i didn’t say you were a nwo agent or being told what to do i suspect you are just ignorant and uninformed, i am not a conspiracy theorist, i came to be a Ron Paul supporter in the last couple months by doing EXACTLY the kind of research you claim i haven’t done, and the kind of research you show YOU haven’t done by posting that Ron Paul is an isolationist even when (as you admit) the simplest search shows he is not….

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:36am

      @Rational Man
      @8JRTS

      Who says O’Reilly is way to much for Ron Paul besides Dick Morris a progressive? 

      If Bill was fair and balanced Bill would have had Ron Paul on after the debate and straw poll. 

      Bill is only offering to bring Ron Paul on so Bill can say he was “Fair” instead of being called out TRUTHFULLY for ignoring Ron Paul. Ron Paul is no dummy. He knows Bill’s game. 

      Bill’s interview with Ron Paul would conducted how most wanted Bill to conduct the Obama interview, hostile. It’s odd Bill is hostile to Ron Paul, and so friendly and nice to Obama in that interview. That sure ain’t fair and balanced is it? 

      I don‘t want Bill being on Ron Paul’s “side” when interviewed, I just want Bill to allow the person to talk before telling them what to think and how dumb they are for thinking it and then excusing them. Bill does that. Bill isn’t fair or balanced at all….

      Ron Paul’s for small Government. Bill is for what? 

      @RationalMan
      Perry and Bachmann are way more polarizing then Paul. Paul will bring in independents and conservative Democrats. Perry and Bachmann does neither…….

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:30am

      Paul is a loser and so are you.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:03am

      @Rational man

      I‘m a loser baby so why don’t you kill me….. Oh wait….

      Please tell me how you really feel…..

      Facts are hard to refute aren’t they. Facts usually leave those LOSING the argument with name calling to distract. So basically, losers call names is the moral of the story. Have a great day!  

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  • Riccy102
    Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:00am

    Sounds to me like Ron Paul was told to criticize *lack of press coverage* by his campaign advisers. Kudos to O’Reilly for calling him on it! Gotcha, Ron Paul. Now go sit back down.

    Next!

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:09am

      Just like that, you sweep Ron Paul under the rug… with Bill O’Reilly as your broom? The same Bill O‘Reilly who sat on Beck’s radio show dismissing facts and logic like there was no tomorrow regarding the progressive / communist agenda, from Van Jones to Cass Sunstein? The same O’Reilly who sat cracking lame, dated jokes and pushing flagrant self-promotion as smugly as possible, oblivious to the fact that the entire audience (well, save for you it seems) balled their fists in frustration at his self-centered, unabashed addiction to the spotlight, regardless of the consequences?

      WHAT A JOKE!

      The man likes to hear himself talk, period. He likes being #1, even if it means having an aging, clueless audience of sheep salivating over his every self-reference to stay there. He’s irrelevant, and has been for a long time. It terrifies him. He’s a dog with a bone, and he doesn’t want to give it up. It’s pathetic.

      Ron Paul would destroy this man in a debate… just like Beck has. But as we’ve seen, if Bill acts like it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen.

      GOOD FOR YOU, RON PAUL.

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    • NO YOU CANT
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:55am

      He is the ONLY candidate that will actually decrease the size of the Federal gov.
      Our military will be stronger than ever- at home protecting our borders!
      He is tough on immigration and for states rights.
      The freaks in San Fran can have it their way, as can the Religious zealots in Texas.
      Individual liberties is what our Constitution- and Ron Paul- is all about.
      Look up his positions at RonPaul2012.com, you might be surprised.

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  • endgamer
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:58pm

    Holy crap, whining? No its a FACT! the press has IGNORED the leader of all the candidates because of his libertarian views. He started the Tea Party Movement. I wouldn’t waste my time on Nazi thug O’Reilly. That isn’t TV coverage. The Fact of the matter is the press is lying. FOX is lying about all the polls. Michele Bachmann bussed in 6000 of her hand picked straw pollsters paid for their tickets and only 4000 of the 6000 voted for her at a cost of $180,000+ WOW.. If you look at who won the last debate. http://www.topix.com/issue/fox/gop-debate-aug11 This was announced by Brett Baier On FOX and pulled an hour later BECAUSE Ron Paul was kicking everyone’s arse. A little quote for all you sheeple on the Blaze “Presidents are Selected Not Elected.” ~FDR That’s right selected, and when you see through all the lies and the BS you will know why Ron Paul is upset. Actually he should have expected it. The truth is the puppet masters do not want someone who is going to disrupt the status quo and the New World Order Agenda and EVERY candidate other than Ron Paul is a NWO stooge. Ron Paul will actually change things for the better. The TRUTH? You won’t find it here either. There is an agenda at the Blaze and it’s showing neo-con colors. It is FAR from the truth. Do some reading AND watch a few films too “America Freedom to Fascism” “Endgame” “The Obama Deception” All three Zeitgeist movies.. and start with this one..there are 8 parts http://youtu.be/WxnPqxKxTE

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:09am

      Endgamer, we have to be easy on TheBlaze readers. Many fall into the predicatble categories
      - seniors who need more time to understand that it is endless wars that makes their SS checks weaker in purchasing power, not Ron Paul’s message of liberty, peace and sound money.
      - Israeli supporters who wrongly think Ron Paul message is not beneficial to Israel. Ron Paul supported Israeli‘s bombing of Iraqi nuclear reactor in 80’s when USA government and most politicians objected. Also USA sends more aid to Israeli enemies than to Israel.
      - embedded Establishment shills who would take their orders from CIA, Pentagon and monopolies to do their brainwashing against RP.

      Young people and active USA military are behind Ron Paul.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:12am

      you can sense a bit of an agenda here with this post. I know they don‘t care for Ron Paul but he doesn’t deserved to be treated like an outcast.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:14am

      My question what has he accomplished? He has held a seat of power in Congress 24 years, while this country has been on a fast track slide into Socialism. What has he done to stop it or even slow it down?

      No need to remind me he has an ongoing campaign to audit the feds. A farfetched notion, that takes up time and space and goes no place. Anyway, the feds are already audited. Seems to me if anyone really wanted to change that government boondoggle in effect since 1913, it would be more logical to change the laws to do away with it. This country thrived and did well before it was established.

      What is his voting record? Is there anything in it, that presents any evidence Congressman Paul has done anything of any significance to salvage the Principles upon which this nation was founded?

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    • endgamer
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:16am

      Thanks Blue_Sky.. You made my day!

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:28am

      @Republicorp

      He has accomplished 24 years of voting Constitutional and leading by example. What has Michelle Bachmann accomplished? Perry? Way way less then Ron Paul. 

      The idea of auditing the Fed is only “far fetched” by this supporting the Federal Reserve. And No, the Fed is not audited by the USA government. 

      Ron Paul’s voting record is for small government and based on the Constitution. Voting on such principle as the Constitution and small Government, Ron Paul led the charge in restoring the Constitution and country, which is now being championed and echoed by the TEA Party. If more had join Ron Paul in voting Constitutional instead of Progressive all those years, we wouldn’t have the mess we have today. 

      Stop bearing false witness….

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:19am

      @OKIE FROM MUSKOGEE
      “Michelle Bachmann accomplished? Perry?” I didn’t ask what they did. I asked what RP accomplished. Being a great leader and ahead of his time there must be something you can point to and say “this is his Baby” ???

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:21am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08gTWqWrI4M

      “This thing is an entire mess, the Palestinians are virtually are in like a concentration camp, they have a few small missiles, but its so minor compared to the fire power of Israel who has nuclear weapons. And they can turn off all the power, all the water, and whatever they want to the people in palestine”-Ron Paul, 1-3-09

      Comparing Israel to Nazis, and Gaza to concentration camps doesn’t sound like something I agree with… Nor does it sound like ‘support of Israel’…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:02am

      @Republicorp

      The TEA party was started by Ron Paul. Ron Paul accomplished voting as he said he would, Constitutional, for 20+ years. 

      Now, what has Bachmann or Perry accomplished? 

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:33am

      OKIE FROM MUSKOGEE so what Tea Party (group / Location) did he start? I want to contact them to see if that is true? When was the last time RP attended a Tea Party meeting?

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:21am

      @Republicorp

      Are you that dumb seriously? 

      Paul’s for small Government and less taxes
      TEA party began as for small Government and less taxes

      December 2007, on the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Paul’s presidential campaign supporters participated in a “money bomb,” a one-day online fundraising blitz that raked in $6 million from 40,000 people nationwide, and drew upon the 1773 protest’s anti-tax sentiments. Paul’s campaign included a picture of a ship showing Ron Paul 2008 across the side with crates being thrown overboard with “Big Government”, “Iraq War”, “Patriot Act”, “Federal Reserve” in replace of tea crates. 

      So yes Paul began the movement. He started it when he was first elected and has been protesting pretty much alone until here recently. 

      Now the TEA party is being partially hijacked by candidates who voted for more Government but say they are against it. 

      Those pesky facts……….

      Ron Paul 2012

      TEA

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:13pm

      Thanks — “America: Freedom to Fascism–full length” was a little boring in the beginning, but the end sums up everything exactly.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUpZhhbKUBo

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    • louise
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:46pm

      Republicore,

      You ask “What has he (Ron Paul) accomplished?” You point out his long tenure in congress. Let me tell you the most important thing he has accomplished. The education of millions of Americans.
      Education about how government SHOULD operate.
      Education about the Constitution.
      Education about illegal and unconstitutional entities such as the Federal Reserve
      Education about economic policy
      and most importantly, education about Liberty

      Because of his 30+ years in Congress, his voting record, his writings, books, speeches mainly on the things I mentioned above, his accomplishment is that he rang the bell of Liberty and millions of grassroots American have awakened to to embrace the vision the Founding Fathers had for this country. I hope it is your vision also.

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    • Acting Man
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:13am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ECi6WJpbzE

      This is a very good explanation of the current and coming crisis. This is why the central bank and money supply are the most important issues in this election. Only Ron Paul understands the importance of the Fed.

      Sound money is the first step to undertaking any libertarian or ‘conservative’ policy.

      Also read Rothbard, read Mises’ Theory of Money and Credit. None of the media understands the problems we face. They have their root in unsound money.

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  • Anarcho Capitalist
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:52pm

    This did not even air tonight… Yet the blaze has a story one it. This site is a joke. Should prove to most that we have an agenda.

    Infowars is the site the blaze wants to be.

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:57pm

      True, Beck had stolen many news and even graphic material from the Internet without giveing any credit to the authors. Many young independent writers were truly upset.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:04am

      But yet you come here…….why?

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:22am

      I watched it at the first airing at 5:00pm (PT) 8/24/11

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:23am

      @ANAPPEALTOGOD

      “But yet you come here…….why?”

      The same reason why Beck reaches out to leftists: To spread the word… challenge the artificially induced status quo… encourage debate. You can’t very well do that in a closed circle, now can you?

      You really had to ask that question? That’s sad, and shows your narrow-mindedness and lack of critical thinking ability. You took a generic cheap shot without putting an ounce of thought into it, and that makes me sad.

      You sound like a prime candidate for an O’Reilly fan.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:16pm

      N37BU6 –

      Sorry I don‘t have cable so I don’t watch O’Reily.

      Every thought you might be the narrow minded one? Just saying…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:06am

      No offense but I certainly find it amusing how the various fans or talk show hosts of different conservative sites attack the sites of other conservative talk show hosts.

      Savage always attacks his conservative competition. I find so does Alex Jones. Even Limbaugh at times. Certainly O’Reilly at times.

      Instead of supporting each other that the message is getting out, it seems often that they are trying to destroy each other.

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  • lonewolf57
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:47pm

    Ron Paul doesn‘t want or need ridiculed by O’ Wiley.Ron Paul is a unabashed financial wizard.He‘s a better man to tell O’Wiley…stick it.

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    • N37BU6
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:00am

      Simple: Paul has standards, and is SICK AND TIRED of the game… the one O’Reilly has been playing for years. Even Beck has complained about it on air. Yes, I actually listen to Glenn. I vividly recall O‘Reilly’s appearances, and the self-centered, stubborn ignorance he swaddles himself in. I remember Beck’s frustration at talking to what amounted to a brick wall.

      Ron Paul is SICK AND TIRED of these people. Good for him for not paying them any attention. Paul knows as well as anyone else that an “interview” with Bill O‘Reilly inevitably turns into nothing more than a popularity contest between Bill O’Reilly and Bill O’Reilly. The man is about as smug as Obama, and even less productive.

      Bill O’Reilly is part of the dinosaur media that Glenn has distanced himself from, and the more distance his oblivious, sycophantic audience has from Ron Paul, the better. Good riddance. Stay away.

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  • SavingtheRepublic.com
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:47pm

    ~v~^^~~^^~v~
    They refuse to accept that RP cannot beat the BHO ELECTION MACHINE.
    Morris was dead on said what Ive been saying about Rp getting the nomination means BHO 2nd term. Soon obamaPaulbots will be here in full attack mode against anyone who isnt on board with RP. They will call folks neocons, shills for the GOP, agents of CFR and Bilderberg.
    The community organizers, unions, fringe media etc etc have a greater reach & power of the brainless voter carrying card zombie army that will be rallied to re-elect the obamanination. All it will take is this:
    “The Pres needs your help, he knows things arent good for the American people. 4 yrs is not enough time to undo the damage done by Bush, the Wall St fat cats, GOP (who are working against ‘you’) and the TEA Party. Please help the Pres & give him four more years there is a lot more work to be done, he cant do it without you. Oh he knows he made promises and he intends to keep them over the next four years. Please help the DNC re-elect Pres Obama.”

    A spiel like that is all it will take to get the uneducated, uninformed, unengaged, nanny state benefactors to get behind him regardless of what any poll or candidate says today.

    Anyone can beat BHO in a 1 on 1 debate its the proggies behind him, his agenda & the regime that are the problem.

    That said lets see how many of you attack me because you didnt read anything I wrote after the first line. http://SavingtheRepublic.com

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    • endgamer
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:10am

      Right you are.. EVERY candidate is a shill for the New World Order.. That is the truth.. It’s the same agenda with different names and the same outcome every time Republican OR Democrat! Whats the phrase.? “If you keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result it’s insanity”! That isn’t a paulbot speaking. It is YOU promoting the New World Order with disinformation. SavingtheRepublic.com you’re a liar and a shill for the same people you described, the Bilderbergs the CFR etc… Watch this film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnPqxKxTEI&feature=share. BTW your website is down..

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:17am

      To bad the polls show Ron Paul has a better chance at beating bad BO then Bachmann……..

      Keep listening to “Dick” Morris….He knows everything being the Democrat Progressive he is…..

      Ron Paul can beat Obama. 
      Ron Paul is less polarizing the Perry or Bachmann. 
      Ron Paul is most like the founders. 
      Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist. 
      Ron Paul has a proven consistent record. 

      And this is no attack, this is following Glenn Beck’s 10 responsibilities, the responsibility to stand against those bearing false witness. 

      Please stop attacking us Ron Paul supporters with your false witness, insults, labeling and disrespect. That is not how Conservatives behave. 

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:39am

      Ron Paul is a loon and everyone with a brain and a television can see it. I’ve read all the crap you people who blindly follow this wannabe with your heads up his ass. I’ve never seen such a group of crybabies cry so much about this and that.

      Paul can’t beat Obama.

      Say all that you want…he will not win the primary. He is not able to pick up the independent vote, and sure as hell is unable to answer the real tough questions about his whack policy. Someone said he was a “non-interventionist“ instead of an ”isolationist.” Isn’t that even worse. Knowing that a country can obtain a weapon that can end millions of lives and doing nothing about it. Knowing that these people who would obtain a nuke actually believe that when they die they are rewarded for killing innocent people, simply because they don’t believe as them.

      Being naive is not an excuse for someone his age. Come back when you have a reply that isn’t silly.

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:56am

      Hey go ahead push for RP to get the nomination WHEN he loses folks will be directing their anger toward you obamapaulbots. And he is not a conservative, or a constitutionalist he is libertarian whom in 1776 would have probably considered himself an anti-federalist. He wears the Constitution on his sleeve like others wear the bible, thats his shtick. He would have more than likely voted against the Constitution and been in favor for the Articles of Confederation.

      Please in detail tell us all which Founding Fathers he is like.. please list all Founding Fathers that were Libertarian as RP. They had Libertarian leaned more on the side of conservatism. Oh and many are curious how McCaine(dont like him) was considered too old 3 yrs ago but Paul being a year older isnt too old now?! Also how is a man that is for term limits has been in office for almost 30years. Washington WALKED away but this guy……. You guys say we are being duped so are you!

      Im a shill for whom? I have not endorsed any candidate! Just more proof of the typical attack methods you obamapaulbots exemplify. Its at a point where the only difference btwn the two of “you” is the joke you support.

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    • sambachico
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:26am

      There’s only a few congressman/senators who I can think of who represent more of a purist constitutional government with transparency – Too bad Demint still has the pre-emptive war mentality, but I think he‘s a good human being and he’s right about most things.

      Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Jim Demint, Walter Jones, Justin Amash.

      I would say the majority of congressman/senators them are there to go along, get along and get rich along the way.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:48am

      @SavingtheRepublic.com

      That was outstanding!
      (notice you didn’t get an answer……AGAIN!)

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:54am

      @Republicorp

      Your saying Glenn was wrong in saying Ron Paul was the most like the founders? 

      I say Ron Paul is most like, Jefferson. Just my opinion. 

      You can blame whom you want, but I’d suggest blaming yourself for voting for Progressives and Neocons. My conservative vote is not yours and I’ll cast it as I see fit. 

      What is the one difference in Ron Paul and the other Republican Candidates? 
      Foreign Policy

      Which do you think the founders would support today? 
      Ron Paul

      If your for telling the world what to do, your choice. Just be sure and jump when China begins telling you what to do. 

      It is odd you spend so much time trying to discredit Ron Paul……It is ok, we supporters will come along and expose your lies. 

      Have a great day. Be sure and wear your NeoCon hat and wear it with honor! 

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 9:43am

      @SavingtheRepublic

      “I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism” Ronald Reagan 

      “A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”

      “To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. . .I place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.”

      “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.”

      “The care of every man’s soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills.”

       ”I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous then standing armies.”

      All quotes but the first are of Thomas Jefferson who Ron Paul sounds like. 

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    • cous1933
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 8:38pm

      Which Founding Father is Ron Paul like? That’s a no-brainer.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RiBWVxbH8c

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:46pm

    Ron Paul has zero chance of being elected!

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:56pm

      I do not know who is more dangerous – an uninformed neo-con parroting Trump and media at large or an embedded CIA poster covering for Obama, Pentagon and monopolies.

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    • Shikezi
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:58am

      The one who thinks that Paul is the only one who can do anything for this country.

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  • okbroomrider
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:46pm

    Does “Little hand grenade with a bad haircut sound familiar”? (Thanks Rushbo!) Sounds like Shades of Ross Perot to me.

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    • TheValley
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 9:32am

      You could believe that which you were fed, OR, perhaps you would get off your ass and actually investigate the issue rather than repeat a media or GOP talking point.
      Oreilly doesn’t know it yet, but those who think have walked away from his fence straddling viewpoints years ago, Ron Paul has nothing to gain from going in to have Oreilly interrupt him constantly, perhaps Oreilly would be better served propping up Obama again with his chickens*** interview.

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  • blue_sky
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:43pm

    Idiotic Dick Morris on the show pretended to be an “intellectual” asked O’Reilly a question – “How our economy will expand if we have a fixed amount of gold?”

    Dick, you should stay with war propaganda and covering the special interests of the establishment.
    Not being economists myself, I will just give you two possible scenarios.
    1. Strong currency will bring capital and jobs from overseas to USA – expansion is right there.
    2. Deflation is much more beneficial to consumers (especially to the poor and elderly) than inflation.
    Competing banks take their own risk of the expanded fiduciary media without central planning from banking monopoly – the FED.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:14am

      I’m so glad you prefaced your comment with….“Not being economists myself”

      Don’t know if we could have ever figured that out otherwise.

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  • spirited
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:41pm

    Maybe he really has no desire to be president.
    Maybe he‘s just been laying the ’ground-work’ for his son for 2016?

    >Maybe he knows that O’Reilly talks fast and expects his guests to be “pithy”?

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    • TheFastestCamper
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:11am

      If we wait till 2016 to enact any change, than half of us will be dead. This charade will not last another 5 years without some form of revolution.

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  • InfiniteSolutions
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:41pm

    Even if Ron Paul isn’t medias choice of candidate he has a lot to say and very interesting. He get’s painted by media as a non attractive man, what does that have to do with anything? I don’t care of our next presidential candidate is a turtle as long as this person is honest and can change the direction this country is going in, restore it back to it’s constitutional state. God, our courts can’t even legally decide on obamacare, one court is for the other is against – EITHER OBAMACARE IS CONSTITUTIONAL OR NOT, ITS NOT A LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVES COURT OPINION. THROW THOSE PEOPLE OUT, THEY ARE ALL UNATTRACTIVE GOOFS. OK, off the soap box. Getting back to Ron Paul, the man is being depicted by both sides of media as an unattractive goof, he’s more on the mark and has a record to prove it. Would we agree with everything? Let me ask you this, do agree with everything Obama does? Well, there’s your answer. I hope Ron Paul stays in the race and comes back stronger than ever, he needs our help.

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:51pm

      Ron Paul, 76, Challenges Status Quo to Bike Race in Houston Heat

      Looks like Ron Paul is the youngest among them all, including Obama!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9NfOIsPFTM

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:39am

      LOL Yeah, I’ve noticed so many comments here about “Republicans = good-looking.” How superficial! Ron Paul may not be attractive sexually, but his POLICIES are so very outstanding HE’S ATTRACTIVE to me! Yes, we may have to wait for Rand, but it’s no reason not to sound off now!

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  • bikerr
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:36pm

    Something not right here!. Maybe Ron ,maybe Bill.

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:44pm

      O’Reilly was rude with Ron Paul the last time around and interrupted him when Ron Paul proved his war propaganda wrong.

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:33pm

    Looks like Ron is adopting the Obama tactic of constant “bemoaning”.

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