Ron Paul: Bush Administration Was ‘Gleeful’ After 9/11 Attacks
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Speaking in Iowa Thursday evening, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said that the Bush administration were “gleeful” after the September 11 attacks because it gave them an excuse to invade Iraq.
“Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq,” the Texas congressman said. He also suggested that officials are currently setting the stage for an invasion of Iran.
CBS adds:
On “Face the Nation” last month, Paul said that while the average American didn’t cause the Sept. 11 attacks, ” if you have a flawed policy it may influence it.”
“I think there‘s an influence and that’s exactly what the 9/11 commission said that‘s what the DOD has said and that’s also what the CIA has said and that’s what a lot of researchers have said,” said Paul. “…our policies definitely had an influence and you talk to the people who committed it and those individuals who would like to do us harm. They say yes we don‘t like American bombs to be falling on our country and we don’t like the intervention that we do in their nation so to deny this I think is very dangerous. But to argue the case that they want to do us harm because we‘re free and prosperous is very dangerous notion because it’s not true.”
He added: “So I‘m saying policies have an effect but that’s a far cry from blaming America. I mean in America, you‘re supposed to be able to criticize your own government without saying you’re un-American.”
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Amica
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:54pmStick a fork in him.
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:58pmlove him or hate him, he’s right. He’s usually right about everything. The things he is not right about are actually just opinions but ultimately are safe ground to stand.
We won’t let Iran get away with terrorism if ever the time came. It’s not how we roll.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:58pmThree if I had my way.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:59pmMaybe someone should go back and get the press releases from the Bush administration.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:05pmI knew was an Alex Jones truther. he probably also believes the Build-a Bobs control the world, and in the Bohemian Groves s e x Olympics.
Report Post »jiggasparks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:14pmAll you people talk about paul being dumb, how about we quote the guy who planned and carried out the attacks why he did it: See also: September 11 attacks and Videos and audio recordings of Osama bin Laden
“God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the Towers, but after the situation became unbearable—and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon—I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed—when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way: to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.”
— Osama bin Laden, 2004[118]
I bet you still think we didnt do anything do warrant an attack on us. GO RON PAUL.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:15pmGeorge Bush and his punk daddy are progressives. Anyone that thinks 9-11 disappointed that cesspool family is in severe denial.
I’d recommend people do a thorough research job on Dov Zakheim.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:17pmGleeful? Where did he get that from exactly? You can’t make stuff up Mr. Paul. They might have had a sense that things would now be different but walking around and smiling at one another as if This is our Moment gee golly things could not have gone our way better…I doubt very seriously anyone was doing this.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:18pmI don’t know that Bush was gleeful..I do know that the muslims here in America were..And Bush allowed the Muslims to pray along side us but they were more than likely praising Allah as the rest of them in the country were. at the 9/11 Memorial .Bush said that they were one of the greatest religions in the world..He sold our ports to the Arabs..he built the Super Highway through here to Canada and Mexico..all proponents to the NWO…He got on the radio and announced to the world that he was thinking of going to war because they might have nuclear weapons..(who in their right mind does that?) But even though he did all these things.. the progression to the NWO slowed down on his watch.
Report Post »dwilco77
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:21pmThis weak little weasel needs to go away. Some of what he says is OK, but he would render us defenseless. His solution to Iran – “Let’s just talk to them”. Yeah, that will work. Why didn’t anyone else except Phil Donahue, and Ron Paul think of that?
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:25pmThe president‘s approval and job performance ratings were lower than Obama’s until 911, then they shot up to the 80′s for three straight years.
For 20 months after 9-11, the DemonRats literally locked arms with the GOP and gave the administration everything it wanted – which meant establishing DHS and hiring thousands of brand new TSA workers, 5,000 CIA Officers/FBI agents and doubling the Border Patrol. Not to mention increasing the USG-funded Contractor Workforce overseas with 15,000+ deployed.
I won’t even add on the two Tax Cuts passed while launching two unfunded wars and the unfunded Medicare part D Socialist medicine program for Big Pharma.
All these were based on the “political capital” and public trust W gained on September 12th 2001.
Taxed Enough Already afterward! (there was no tea party then)
Report Post »checkit
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:26pmVery poor choice of words when 3000 people died that day.
I am NOT aware of anyone being GLEE, except the Muslims.
This is why you can NOT allow a person to run the United States that has an obviously distorted mindset/ view on life and America and the World for that matter.
Ron Paul is a total disgrace to attack someone in this manner. He should DROP-OUT of the GOP primaries and run as a Liberal.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:30pmAre any of you people in congress here? I didn’t think so… Does any one have a government job?? I doubt it? Ron Paul is behind the scenes, he sees them, so i wouldn’t doubt it if they were gleeful
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:51pmRon Paul is 100% correct. The Bush administration (Progressives) did not let an opportunity go to waste when we were attacked on 9/11. This gave the opportunity to engage Iraq as been advocated by Saudi Arabia since the first gulf war ended.
-9/11 commission said the same
-Department of Defense said the same
-Central Intelligence Agency said the same
-Several respected analysts said the same
So this isn’t just a Paul notion or opinion…..
Intervention=Aggression and is Progressive foreign policy
Spreading Democracy thru financial and Military means is Progressive
If you support Intervention you are Progressive, not Conservative.
As for Israel, two words: Self Reliance and Independence. Dependence upon a foreign nation is in direct contrast to what Israel is all about. The last thing Israel needs is for welfare (foreign aid) to be held over her head if she does not act how we say she should like Newt Gingrich threatened to do in the late ‘90’s over a criminal. Let Israel be free and our best friend, not dependent and our best slave.
Kooks are those supporting Progressive Intervention calling themselves ‘Conservative’….If you support Intervention, you agree with BO for going into Libya and you should have the honor to be honest and say you are PROGRESSIVE.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:55pm@ PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:30pm
Are any of you people in congress here? I didn’t think so… Does any one have a government job?? I doubt it? Ron Paul is behind the scenes, he sees them, so i wouldn’t doubt it if they were gleeful
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A wise man will listen with his ears, but more importantly, with his heart.
I don’t know what happened on 9-11 except that a lot of innocent people died in the vanity of Washington politics.
I suspect that Magog smiles.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:03pmSo let‘s turn this around to display how hypocritical the so called ’conservatives’ supporting Progressive policies actually are.
If we had been attacked under Obama like 9/11 and Obama gained power to spy, conduct an unending war, preemptively strike and invade a Nation for other Nations under false intelligence, deem and hold any they say are terrorists, and spend billions of dollars in foreign lands rebuilding it the “right” wouldn’t cry that the “left” is using a tragedy to gain power and not letting a crisis go to waste…..That is exactly what Bush did and had Obama done it the “right” would wig out and call him a dictator…Be consistent!
Wake up. George Bush is a Progressive just like his daddy and just like Obama. They keep the same policies. Stop being hypocrites.
Next problem not being reported, Saudi getting Nuclear technology.
If we are to tell Iran no to Nuclear technology and go to war with them if they proceed ahead then will we do the same with Saudi Arabia?
Saudi Arabia announced they will be developing Nuclear Technology, for electricity “only” of course, building 13 reactors in the next few years.
So are those advocating war with Iran also advocating war with Saudi Arabia as well?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150444#.TuKp4NR5mSM
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:09pmregion and elsewhere,” Rumsfeld wrote in a memo to Condoleeza Rice dated July 27, 2001.
In the same ten year old memo, Rumsfeld also predicted Iran will “almost certainly have a nuclear weapon sometime within the next five years.”
A D V E R T I S E M E N T
Whether Ari Fleischer likes it or not, Ron Paul is thus entirely vindicated in making the points he did during his Iowa speech.
“Extremists have taken over, and they’re the ones who run the foreign policy and have convinced us to go along with all these wars,” Paul noted.
“How many foreign countries can threaten us right now?” Paul asked. “How many are likely to invade us or drop a bomb on us? I can’t imagine.”
The Congressman also reminded the audience that plans for a domestic crackdown on liberties were already drawn up prior to 9/11.
“The PATRIOT Act was written many, many years before 9/11,” Paul said. The attacks simply provided “an opportunity for some people to do what they wanted to do,””
From infowars.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:09pmYou know at one time I might have said anyone but Obama ..
but today … I would REALLY have to think twice before I voted for Ron Paul or if I would just stay home…
Report Post »I just thought twice and I would stay home
Warrior4Zion
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:11pmWe need to destroy the Middle East now for our ally Israel! If you don’t stand with Israel then you are not American. Ron Paul would let Israel fight all of its own Wars. The other Republicans and Obama would support Israel.
Report Post »Ron Paul acts like we are still living in the 18th century and that damn Constitution still means something. He needs to come back to the 21st century! It’s time to attack first before they attack us or they will hit us with another 9-11.
Ron Paul is anti-America. No place for Ron Paul and his supporters in America. They are like terrorists. They don‘t even support our Military and they don’t support God’s Chosen people.
Alfred F. Jones
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:14pmIts comments like this that make not like Ron Paul. He has a lot of good ideas, but he has a lot of sick and twisted views like this one that turns me completely off. Give me a break! I was only fourteen when 9/11 happened and even I can remember how haunted and sick Bush looked. Bush did a lot of dumb things during his administration, but the man loved his country, progressive or not.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:14pmDid Dr. Ron “Neville Chamberlain” Paul see the same thing I did on 9/11 and the days and months after? I will never forget the service at the Nat‘l Cathedral and Pres Bush’s biting his quivering lip -trying to be the stoic President and being a feeling human like all of us Pres Bush had his faults, being gleeful over 9/11 was not one of them. I thank God daily for the outcome of the 2000 elections – can anyone dare to imagine the years between 2001 and 2008 if algore had been President? And for all you disingenous haters – get over it. And for all you aPaulogists – had Ron Neville Paul been President on Dec 7, 1941 we would all be speaking German or Japanese. And if we would take the handuffs of our Military and stop trying to have “nice” wars -we would have never lost Viet Nam, and would have been out of Afghanistan & Iraq long ago
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:23pm@Warrior 4 Zion
“We need to destroy the Middle East now for our ally Israel!”
No “we” do not and Israel does not want us to either. Progressives do so they can rule the world, including over Israel.
“If you don’t stand with Israel then you are not American.”
If you stand for another country’s interest before American interests you are unAmerican.
“Ron Paul would let Israel fight all of its own Wars.”
Ron Paul will allow Israel to determine what she does, Independence and Self Reliance as founded by Ben Gurion.
“Ron Paul acts like we are still living in the 18th century and that damn Constitution still means something.”
The Constitution does mean something except to Progressives like you.
“Ron Paul is anti-America. No place for Ron Paul and his supporters in America. They are like terrorists.”
That is exactly what all Progressives say when they are exposed and is the very reason progressive Republicans helped passed the Defense authorization act to hold anyone they deem terrorists as long as they like.
Israel wants to be self reliant and independent. They do not want you telling them what to do or fighting their wars for them. That is why they do not fight wars with the US.
Warrior4Zion is an exposed Progressive.
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:24pm@DWILCO77
LMAO you really are dumb, aren’t you? How could pulling our troops out of foreign nations and consolidating our power here on our home turf possibly render us defenseless? It would do the exact opposite of render of defenseless! And if you really think that we are in danger of being nuked by Iran then you are delusional. Even on the offchance that they do obtain a nuclear weapon they would be suicidal to use it against us. And even that depends on them obtaining the means to launch a warhead all of the way to the other side of the world. Hell, it would be a feat if they could launch one outside their own country. last I checked, Iran doesn’t have ICBM capability or mobile nuclear weapons platform technology like our Trident submarines.
People like you who apparently think that having our country be in perpetual war is the only path to peace are one of the main reasons why our nation’s public opinion is in the toilet. Pathetic.
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »kralspaces
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:24pm‘Gleeful’ Glenn attacks the Dems and the GOP daily, especially when they prove his theories. Maybe someone else needs to read ‘In the Garden of Beast’ where our foreign policy completely denied Hilter’s rise. Long before 9/11, Paul was saying that our foreign policy was in denial about the radicals as well. The signs were there and they were there because we were there (on their lands).
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:33pmFacts are interesting. Both The Patriot Act and the Iraq War were written and planned well before 9-11 you dumbass idiot Neo-Con sheep! Wake up idiots! Mark Levin, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck are simply mouth pieces for the Jewish Apartheid reigning in America today!
No more Wars for the Jews! It’s that simple. You are being used America because you are so damn ignorant and uneducated. They are playing you like fools and you are to dumb to see it because Glenn Beck is your Messiah! Truth is you don’t deserve a Patriot like Ron Paul. You simply don’t deserve a man of honor and principle. You are not worthy of Ron Paul!
You idiots desire shackles! You will eventually get them.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:37pmWell, I‘m guessing Ron Paul’s support is going to plummet.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:37pmI cannot understand why people do not realize that if an invader like China were to attempt an all out attack on our homeland we would be screwed because our troops are spread so thin. Wake up dumbasses! Bring our boys home and let the rest of the world fight it out.
Shame on you for calling Dr. Paul names. He speaks the truth, like it or not! You warmonger idiots slumber!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:45pmIt is bad enough we have to listen/read this stuff from the MSM/left, but now we have to have it endorsed by a GOP presidential candidate. Bush is gone, Obama, and what is done is done. I am starting to question Paul, never agreed with his view on foreign policy and don’t consider him a viable candidate, but instead of trying to pull together for the sake of the country he is out in left field.
Report Post »DaHogs
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:51pmI decided to jump on the Ron Paul bandwagon. Romney and Gingrich are big government and not conservatives. Paul seams like the only one I can trust. I also think he is the only one that could make a serious difference in the direction we are headed.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:52pmIn his book “ In my time ” Dick Crainium Chaney quotes Bush “ flaming liberal ” Jr. As saying gleefully ” I got a trifecta !” as a result of 911.
Report Post »Ron Pauls correct, and your an unheeding, unseeing Neocon of low moral standard, sir.
PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:53pm@booger71 .. OK than explain to me why they were at boehmian grove? What was the point? It’s clear that was a staged satan worship show.. so why even be affiliate with that.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:59pmAnalogy: As a child you made your list each year for mom and dad to mail to the North Pole, you visited Santa and had your annual Christmas picture made. You believed! Was it all true? Do you still mail your Christmas list to Santa or as you grew older did you realize (or you were told) a different truth? If you’re 35 and Santa still visits you, read no further. The rest will be a spoiler.
Time to grow up and accept a new painful truth. Think of the current use of crises to justify and provide predetermined solutions. President Obama has simply strengthened DHS and TSA but the administration that signed off on their creation was President Bush’s. When U.S. troops begin to “indefinitely detain” some of you, you’ll blame Obama and the progressive democrat party without realizing it was the progressive GOP that started the ball rolling. We’ve lost sight of the truth because we (you and me, democrat and republican) have allowed ourselves to follow rather blindly at times, trusting there’s a difference. It’s a shame that our own pride and self-righteousness will continue to delude us.
The Republic will perish because of our blindness and refusal to admit we’ve been gullible. This is due in part to the normalcy bias and in part to our personal attachment to the emotional argument. Everyone becomes defensive when presented with clear facts that refute their initial argument. I‘m sorry there’s no Santa Claus no matter how much you wish for him.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:03pmThat little dried up man is delusional and sick. He is not suffering from
dementia, he has always been crazy. I cannot believe there are so many
more walking among us that think the same as he does. I think he should
get his “Groupies” like Jim Jones did and move out of the States. It is disturbing
enough to think that “one” man believes this, but to think his followers do too,
is crazy and Unamerican. Dear Lord I don’t wont to vote for Obama so please
do not let this crazy man win the primary…………………..
Unix
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:04pmumm, Ron, you’ve gone a Bridge Too Far, sorry mate. Damn, it amazes me what these pols say some (most) of the time.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:06pmSo wait, before the USS Cole incident, how many bombs did we drop on those mullas anyway?
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:07pmThe truth has no agenda my ***. All Beck does is try to portray Paul in a negative light. Beck you can’t even come up with the historical or theological case for why you “don’t do business on Sunday”. And you think you even have a clue about supporting Yisra’El? When it comes to religion, cops or the middle east, you shove your head up your *** and stop using logic. You pagan, hypocrite, sycophant.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:07pmI use to support RP on most issues now I think it‘s a GOOD thing he’s retiring next year he’s OFF the deep end..
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:21pmThis guy’s obviously got a major loose screw that needs some tightening, but it’s rusted.
Get me the Liquid Wrench, Steve.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:24pmI object. You are Dead Wrong. Every issue you just conveyed is establishment propaganda against him. He has a pro-Israel foreign policy. Even Netanyahu agrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ljxQn5nm8A
Regarding the earmarks. The funds are already allocated, so why not give businesses/people in his district an additional tax return? Do you know how much coastal regions pay in taxes? Do you know their tax return rate? If the funds are there, and you still voted no, why let that money just sit there? Why not give it back to the taxpayers in your district? How is that hypocritical? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbca34MS8LI
To what degree is that an issue to disqualify him? What about Grinch’s, Romney’s, and obama’s SEVERE hypocriticalness?
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:30pmFacts: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/264837/20111209/ron-paul-newt-gingrich-mitt-romney-funds.htm
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:32pmWell, well — a Blaze hit-piece. Jeesh. What’s this place coming to?
Anyone want to hear Dr. Paul discuss the “glee” comment with Megan Kelly on Fox today?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=LGdZvIxenHs#t=22s
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:34pm@Sissy
You don’t have to lie, we all know you are voting for Obama anyway.
The only delusional one is you for supporting progressive policies and not admitting it. You are to scared to admit what the policies you support make you.
The sad thing is there are many others that think like you and actually are the problem thinking they are a solution.
Anytime you’d like to debate policy, we can. Every insult you throw, truth will be thrown back showing exactly what you are, PROGRESSIVE.
Crazy people support intervention and think there are no repercussions from such aggressive policy. Crazy……….
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:35pmMost everyone here loves the Jews…as do I…If they are attacked…and if you believe the Bible…God will gather all the nations to go against her.. Jesus steps in to save her.. planting His foot down upon the Mount of Olives..causing an earthquake.. All of Israel’e eyes will be opened and they will realize that they have pierced their own God..then a fount will be opened for cleansing…Only one third will hold to their newly found faith and the rest will be destroyed..We will not stop this from happening..It is in God’s hands..I believe Him totally..This is His love story with them..A third will survive into the millenial kingdom and will be counted among the elect… I am not worried about Israel….she belongs to God…as do all of us believers..and keepers of the faith.. Whatever happens..even with us and the muslims..God may use them to serve His purpose..This story has been ongoing for a while now..Look at Islamic demographics.. they have a mission to overtake the world through population explosion and immigration..no where to run..no where to hide..it is right here..Are we ready?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r6Lxobv5Hg
Vechorik
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:35pmYes, Ron Paul can sounds nuts when you don‘t know the background of what he’s speaking about. 30 seconds doesn’t give one much time, does it.
Like getting rid of FEMA.
Know why?
10999 was one of several executive orders signed by Kennedy under the rubric of “national emergency” that extended extrajudicial power to FEMA, including the ability to control communications, energy, food, fuel, farms, transportation, highways, railroads, inland waterways and seaports, health, education and welfare. The EO also allows FEMA to organize citizen work brigades under government control and undertake the relocation of the population.
10999 also gives FEMA the authority to control all public storage facilities.
On June 3, 1994, president Clinton consolidated all previous FEMA executive orders into one all-encompassing order, #12919.
As many have noted, FEMA is not an emergency agency. It is a martial law agency. It is often referred to as the “secret government” of the United States. THAT’S WHY RON PAUL WANTS TO GET RID OF IT!
Also FEMA will be given the helm if martial law is implemented. It’s call Continuity of Government. Then look up Rex-84 plan for COG.
Take a bit of research to understand Dr. Paul. Most voters aren’t willing to do that.
Report Post »arx
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:43pmThat’s going way too far.
Report Post »sedition
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:55pmRon Paul Has Real Chance of Becoming GOP Nominee!!
Report Post »http://inflation.us/ronpaulrealchance.html
stick a fork in that…
techengineer11
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:03pmUnix
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:06pm
So wait, before the USS Cole incident, how many bombs did we drop on those mullas anyway?
So how many bombs did we drop on Israel or like you prefer to say “the rabbis” after the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty by the Jews? Wonder why that didn’t get a lot of national Media attention? lol
You people are sorely deceived.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:05pmOut of context or not, it is things like this that keep Ron Paul down. The first thing I ever heard him say in the last cycle was that we asked for 9/11.
Not exactly the path to the White House when you’re dealing with conservative voters…
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:07pmI asked the Blaze writers to include this Wesley Clark video so readers would know what Ron Paul meant by “glee” but doubt they will do it.
‘07 Predicting the wars Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan and then Iran! BEFORE 9/11
Report Post »by Wesly Clark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0jXFjaBbH0
sawbuck
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:08pm@monicne
Report Post »Thank you , thank you ..!
Finally….We can finally agree …On how fricken awful Bill Clinton was. And the Damage that ensued during and continued after his staff pulled the letters “W” and “H” off all the key boards at the White House…During Clinton’s stay (first attack on Twin Towers , The USS Cole bombing ,Ruby Ridge Massacre , Waco Branch Davidian Massacre ) . But hey… He sat on his Hands for that RAWANDA THING…We can be so proud to be alive during that ethnic
cleansing. And then left the White House with our Country falling off a cliff, due to all the “ Dot-Com’s ”that were about to tank , after selling-out our Country on NAFTA and the Free Trade Agreement with China . Clinton’s decisions while steering the ship, directly affected our American Industries sinking them into the “industrial China Sea” and left the doors wide open
for the Second Attempt to destroy the Twin Towers ,that about finished off our financial district or did …. For another President (Bush) who took his Oath Of Office On 1/20/2001
and took a month to put all the letters back on the keyboards . Then was only “On the Job” for Less than ( 8 months) before 9/11 . That only counts (as days ) being “On the Job” by THIS Administration . Obo’s guys are still blaming Bush , for how long now …oh yea almost a second term of Obo.
So what I’m saying if its Bush’s fault ,then it has to be Clinton’s fault.
Go all the way back ,dont stop
ree758
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:13pmWhat a goofball
Report Post »ultimatefighting
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:16pmUnfortunately, there seems to be a war-for-profit industry in our country.
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“Our interests”.
.
Actually, its their interests, our blood.
jmiller_42
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:32pmThe administration was gleeful because of the window that 9/11 gave them. We are so soon to use the “never let a good crisis go to waste” line on the libs, but we are stunned to think ole George bailout Bush may have had an agenda to push with the help of the fear that 9/11 ushered in?
Wake up people! this is just another attempt to lie about who Paul is. Just like these clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNnmZuPBSPM
If you really want to find out what Paul and his movement is about watch this:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4WYqabTxU
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:40pmThe only people (spelled SHEEPLE) that deride Ron Paul at this point of the run up to 2012 deserve more of the same.
Gingrich is a cesspool of progressivism, and Romney is OBVIOUSLY a left wing mental basket case of socialism. BOTH of those clowns history is stepped in a socialist agenda.
Sounds like a bunch mentally stunted Fox News dumbasses here to me. H I N T Fox News is left wing. Hannity swings from every right wing progressives nut sack, O’Reilly is a sissified skirt wearing Obama tramp, and their boss, Murdock is a frigging FULL BLOWN SOCIALIST.
Report Post »pioneer461
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:45pmWell, I guess that nut didn’t fall far from the tree.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:46pm@ lillymckim
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:09pm
You know at one time I might have said anyone but Obama ..
but today … I would REALLY have to think twice before I voted for Ron Paul or if I would just stay home…
I just thought twice and I would stay home
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Lilly I always like reading your posts, but this one is a serious head scratcher. So you would vote for Gingrich, a full blown progressive socialist EXACTLY like Obama. Or Romney who is as close to communist as they come, and you’d think twice about voting for Ron Paul? Seriously?
You WANT to live in communism, by all means stay at home and don’t make your voice count. But if you want to live in the Republic the Founders gave us, Ron Paul is the only choice left in the race that will take us in that direction.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:51pmAsk anyone that was in the Bush cabinet at the time of 911 and you will hear the same thing repeated over and over… there was NO glee!
Report Post »Ron Paul is a liar.
Les78015
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:54pmMr. Paul is a sick old b@stard.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:56pmOkie from Muskogee
Report Post »Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:51pm
Ron Paul is a 100% nut-job.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:59pm@ thepatriotdave
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:51pm
Ask anyone that was in the Bush cabinet at the time of 911 and you will hear the same thing repeated over and over… there was NO glee!
Report Post »Ron Paul is a liar.
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I don’t know that I would have used the word glee, but they were CERTAINLY pleased with the result. Magog was more definitely thrilled.
Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:01pmTake your finders out of your ears and hear what this man is saying instead of sitting there like “la la la la la American can do no wrong. American never apologizes. la la la l a.”
Nothing gets through your sphere of stupidity.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:07pm@Patriot Dave
Patriot Dave is 100% progressive and doesn’t have the honor and/or sense to admit it.
Progressives never let a crisis go to waste, remember?
Intervention=Progressive
Dave supports Intervention
Dave=Progressive
“We scored a perfect trifecta”
Anytime you’d like to debate, bring it. I understand why you prefer to simply call names. No honor….
Report Post »Joe Myrick
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:22amThis is what we are dealing with people. And we aren’t doing anything to stop it. Our government along with many others are aligned to see these atrocities take place. If only you people would see the real threat. The threat of the Banking Cartel who are the masterminds of all the evil that occurs today. http://t.co/YHx6B7JC
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:00amWatch the Paul-Bots come out of the woodwork over this one. Must defend and do damage control…
Report Post »The majority of people do not agree with Ron Paul. He’s more like Obama than any other candidate. In fact he should be registered as a Democrat. Must be even more delusional that the rest, who call themselves Democrats. Thinks he can pass himself off running as a Republican by announcing he is a Libertarian. Aren’t Libertarians just Liberal lite? Y-E-S. To answer my own question.
Jezreel
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:09amIt is interesting to hear people here criticize and hate a man that has a good record with no shady dealings in politics, not married many times, has only one wife, led a moral good life, is pro life, most of you hate him because there is something wrong with your spirits and brains. Your thinking is warped. “haters of those who are good, heady, highminded, having a form of godliness and denying the power thereof”, that is most of you.
Report Post »Our country is doomed because of people like you. I guess the United States has to be all burned up and get destroyed to remove most of the sick human beings that don’t deserve to live in the first place.
chfields62
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:13amLiving proof that stupid people shouldn’t breed…..BAAAAAAA to all you Ron Paul lemmings……..
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:16amHe’s correct. The “patriot act” was pre-written long before 9/11, nobody writes 2000 pages of legalese in a week. Bush was eager to invade Iraq before 9/11.
Yeah, truth speakers are always reviled. Welcome to the ranks of “on the wrong side”, guy.
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:35amThe truth is, that all of you whomhated seeing Beck’s clips sliced and diced by the media, don’t realise yet that the same thing is being done here and on Fox, to Ron Paul.
Look up some of those video links above. And stop being used.
It sucks to find out Beck is using you, but that truth will set you freee when you finally see it. As Beck says, don’t take his word on anything. But for real, DON’T. Go look for yourself.
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:37amWould someone tell this Whinny Old Man that the focus should be on getting Obama our of office – WTF does Bush have to do with the election of 2012. Give me a break – I can’t take the insanity anymore.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:42amAre we reading the same articles here? He did not say they had glee over 9/11. The title is misleading. The notion that he thinks Bush was glad after, during or because of 9/11 is a gross misinterpretation.
The quote said, “Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration BECAUSE now we can invade Iraq,”
There was a reason to invade Iraq now. That’s all it means.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:43amSome of you, no, a lot of you that post on here are ablsolute ignorant morons that know nothing of human nature. You are all going through life in a daze and if you were out in the desert and heard rattlesnakes buzzing, you would continue walking oblivious to the danger til one jumped up and bit you on the A**!!! The 2012 election may not ever happen, if things keep going at the pace they are, but if we do have them, Paul is the only one I would want in the White House when all this happens. When the economy crashes, Iran and the Middle East will not be our worry. Our Freedoms will be our worry. I want someone who will defend our Freedom.
Report Post »DrWho
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:51amGWB did not let a good crisis go to waste either.
His dad invavded Iraq after phoney stories of babies being dumped out of incubators in Kuwait.
How many American soldiers support Ron Paul and many support the traitors?
Our soldiers are asking for a Commander in Chief who will fight for the American people instead of corporations and false allies.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »jzs
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:53amTo those devotees of this website, you are missing a big point. This website has a political agenda. You’ve got this thread that puts Ron Paul in a bad light. Have you seen any thread here that makes Romney look good? Of course not. This website rode with Cain for awhile, not he’s gone. All of Rick Perry’s flubs are headline news here.
Michelle Bachmann’s flubs and misstatements? Not covered, not even that she refused to attend the Trump debate.
No, Bachmann is covered here. Don’t expect support of any other candidate. She’s cast in a good light, the other candidates aren‘t and won’t be. Come on! There is an agenda here.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:54amWarrior4Zion
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:11pm
We need to destroy the Middle East now for our ally Israel! If you don’t stand with Israel then you are not American. Ron Paul would let Israel fight all of its own Wars. The other Republicans and Obama would support Israel.
Ron Paul acts like we are still living in the 18th century and that damn Constitution still means something. He needs to come back to the 21st century! It’s time to attack first before they attack us or they will hit us with another 9-11.
Ron Paul is anti-America. No place for Ron Paul and his supporters in America. They are like terrorists. They don‘t even support our Military and they don’t support God’s Chosen people.
This is all of you that like staying with Progressive policies, big war loving government, interventionist menatality. “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results,” Albert Einstein.
Do you not find this way of thinking insane??? Ron Paul 2012. Vote for real change.
Report Post »ConserveRepublican89
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:00amI can’t BELIEVE this man! He is insane!!! How can a person even think things like this much less say them out loud! Al-qeada attacked us – period. It was not the other way around.
I’m curious, how does he think the families of the 911 victims feel when he says manure like this?
The 911 truther movement, naive liberal politicians, and people like this just rip open the wound of 911 all over again for 911 families.
How selfish can a person be to use such a terrible tragedy in U.S. history to forward a political agenda???
Astonishing.
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:07amAnd also, LOL at people who don’t think Bush was a progressive.
McCain was a progressive. He wrote the NDAA with Levin!
Bush gave us nation building, TARP, the first stimulus. You people don‘t seem to get that it’s the FED that runs the show. They dole out the cash, and the banks and major corporations, which own all of our news networks, pick our candidates.
Don’t tell anybody about how Ron Paul has cleaned clocks in most of the straw polls, and many of the phone polls. Mention Romney takes first in a poll, Newt third, but omit who was in second. (This happens constantly.) Call him the “nutty uncle” when you do mention him. Don’t show people his actual foreign policy statements, as he typically speaks for 45 minutes to an hour to explain complicated issues, without a teleprompter. Cut and dissect him as much as possible, and present the already misled public to believe the lie.
Anybody remember how people would take Beck’s show, cut up the footage, and make it look like he was nuts?
Yeah…I bet you do remember THAT.
It’s amazing what you know when you see a bigger picture than is presented to you.
Report Post »verilite
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:10amDon’t get upset just because Dr. Paul tell it like it is.
How much money do you think Haliburton made on the deal?
At last count there was 34 billion dollars that was not accounted for that was supposed to go to Iraq.
Follow the money..
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:10amIt’s time to listen to your gut instinct. Vote for Ron Paul. Romney and Gingrich is just going to keep kicking the bucket down the path. Bachmann and Santorum are practically Ross Perot at this point. It’s sad but true.
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You‘ll be sorry if you don’t.
Report Post »CRAPGIVER
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:16am@ amica what are you ? Are you still alive, trolls are not alowed to vote.They are too stupid, to understand any thing even when explained, more than 1,000 times. Just continue sleep and wake up until after election 2012.
Report Post »UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:26am@CheckIt:
I agree. He should drop out of the Republican party altogether, and should help start a third party for people who have the capacity and will to read more than headlines and sound bytes. More and more of American is actually starting to LEARN about our system, our founders, and our future, in large part thanks to Glenn Beck until he went on his misguided extremist pro-israel rabbit trail.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:49amThe headline is so dang misleading. It says, “Ron Paul: Bush Administration Was ‘Gleeful’ After 9/11 Attacks”.
He was talking about the Iraq War, for Pete’s sake. All you folks getting your panties in a twist should reread the quote:
“Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq.”
He was not talking about 9/11 when saying ‘glee’. He said AFTER 9/11 the Bush administration was glad to go to war with Iraq! How difficult is that to understand? Bush Sr. and Clinton have always wanted to go to war with Iraq. That’s a fact. Seriously people, this is just a misconstrued and out of context headline. Wherein the quote does it say Bush was glad because of what happened on 9/11? It’s not there. This hit piece is pathetic.
Report Post »Encihammer
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 3:50amRemember folks, there is only one true Scotsman and that is Ron Paul. Every single person who has ever -thought- about running for president on the GOP ticket, even that hack Goldwater, was a dress-wearing Progressive pansy and a total sellout to the Man… I mean the Establishment… I mean the moderates. Yeah, the moderates. Anyway, you spineless “conservatives” that I put in “scare quotes” because I think that you are in fact “sellouts” and “unworthy of even the oxygen you are currently inhaling much less the right to vote” should really step back and consider the huge right…moderate…pansy-wing conspiracy that has spread these vicious rumors and bad press coverage about the sole worthwhile candidate in this race, or any race for that matter. There is no negative side to Paul because he has no negative side; any sort of perceived “weakness” or “radical stance” of his is really just your spineless pansy moderate sellout dress-wearing idiocy hiding you from the brilliant rays of truth that emanate from that man; although if you are red-green color blind the brilliant rays of truth can be hard to see sometimes but trust me, they’re there. Anyway, you’re all idiots and also secretly socialist liberal neanderthals who daydream about big government ruling every aspect of our lives, Ron Paul 2012, &c.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:57am@Warrior4Zion The Constitution doesn’t matter? If your allegiance is to Israel over the US, them move to Israel, join their army, and go fight with them. As for us true American patriots, we will stay here, and defend and protect our own Nation. Israel is our friend, but we are not their Nanny, and they are not our God.
As to this article. The title is misleading. He was talking about the Iraq war, not the 9/11 attacks. For some reason, thanks to the pathetic headline, folks are under the false impression that he said that Bush was gleeful over the 9/11 attack. That’s utter BS and false.
Report Post »bmel
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:47amRon Paul isn’t playing with a full deck. His outlandish and yes I say out landish foriegn policy ideas match nearly everything he has said about the same 9/11 statement is more of the same
Report Post »louise
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 7:17amWhile Fleischer contends that Ron Paul is insane for making such a suggestion, he has apparently forgotten that it was George W. Bush himself who, in the days after 9/11, gloated to his budget director, Mitch Daniels, “Lucky me–I hit the trifecta!”
Does anyone remember this “gleeful” comment? Ron Paul did not lie about this. People have forgotten and that is a shame.
RON PAUL 2012
Report Post »louise
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 7:23amforgot the link. sorry!
http://www.infowars.com/bush-press-secretary-calls-ron-paul-nuts-following-911-glee-comments/
Report Post »The Realist
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 7:54amRon Paul is an absolute loon. A 9/11 truther, horrendously dangerous, weak and crazy foreign policies, and thankfully, despite the loud-mouthed foaming at the mouth supporters, he’ll never win. Sad thing is, that when O’Communist wins again like in 2008 by 2-3%, we’ll be able to thank the Ron Paul voters for handing him the victory again and putting the finishing touch on our once great country. We all know there isn‘t a snowball’s chance in hell of Wrong Paul winning-but hey-you have your principles right paulies?
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 8:29amLove him or hate him but you finally get a politician willing to tell you the TRUTH and people dismiss him and call him a liar! I don’t think most Americans know what they even want!
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 8:57amPaul said :our policies definitely had an influence and you talk to the people who committed it and those individuals who would like to do us harm…. So what, we can’t live the way we want to ? We have to change because “ they ” don’t like our policies and the way we are ? This guy and all his followers are just as dangerous for America as the current administration.. They are all nutz .. We were wrong because we like to live our lives better .. Amazing.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 9:09am@Baddoggy… You comment doesn’t sit well with your avatar, dope..
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 9:25amI think he’s off his meds again!!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 9:35amAll one has to do is look through the Blaze postings when there is any mention of Ron Paul and see what absolute freakin’ nuts this half-wit (Paul) attracts. I loved it when Glenn Beck basically said that many Ron Paul supporters are a domestic terrorist threat to this nation. Look throughout the web and see what hate groups who are anti-government / anti-law enforcement / anti-military / anti-semetic etc align themselves with Paul.
Ron Paul supporters like to bandy about that Ron Paul recieves more donations from the military than any other candidate (which I’ve basically proven to be an easy internet skew by disingenous Paulestinians). Being Retired Army I hate the fact that a POS like Timothy McVeigh was even in my United States Army and wound up being a fringe terrorist who espoused the very same militia mentality and ideals that you read from Paul supporters here and all over the internet. I would venture to say that McVeigh would be donating to the Paul campaign in 2012 if he were able (glad he’s not able).
People need to take a hard look at what you see written here and elsewhere on the internet and realize that Ron Paul just a useful idiot for the real dangers in our society… his supporters and those closest too him in his personal life.
With Obama and his ilk we have one type of chaos… with Paul and his ilk we would have another… and maybe even more dangerous.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 9:42amWhere is the rest of the clip?? I would like to know the context…Not saying he doesn’t believe that, and so what if he does….That tells me no matter If the Bush administration did or did not feel that way, I know Ron Paul wouldn’t. The more I learn about how crooked the government has been for a long time now, I would not put it passed the Bush administration, to “not let a crisis go to waste.”
This does not say the Bush administration played a role in making it happen, but takes advantage of the situation, to do what he has wanted to do.
Report Post »Loweman
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 10:33amRon Paul is flat out nuts, the PaulBots will still loyally follow this insanity. Can’t right right on many constitutional issues and so wrong on ones like this and be taken seriously for President
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 10:35amI still see lots of sheeple. Deep asleep. Dreaming. When you will woke up? When they throw you in FEMA camps? You acting exactly the same, like German people in 1933. You trusting your emotions more then your logic. Do you really want to taste, how it is to live in totalitarian country? I can tell you, and many millions other people, but will you listen? It is not fun.
Report Post »Remember. America is not immune to international banksters. They don’t care about human life. They will kill 100,000 ppl, if necessary to achieve their goal – total domination.
Any you stupid sheeple will get exited over never ending war between oceania and east asia.
Vechorik
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:17amThis isn’t the first “hit piece” on Dr. Paul by The Blaze, Tiffany Gabbay. She has an agenda. Too bad she couldn’t come up with something more important than twisting words.
Everyone knows that Wesley Clark revealed government plans to invade 7 countries BEFORE 9/11
Dr. Paul was just talking about the fact that 9/11 gave them an excuse to do what was already planned. Research it — that’s true.
I must add: Unfortunate choice of words from Dr. Paul. In 30 years, he hasn’t made many bad choices like that. Just shows “no one is perfect.”
Report Post »gordonknapp
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:58amNow we have an excuse to go into Iran, to retrieve our spy drone that ‘accidentally’ crashed there.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:25pm@YEP You arrgghhhhhhhh sick!. ” I would venture to say that McVeigh would be donating to the Paul campaign in 2012 if he were able (glad he’s not able).” You have crossed that progressive line and there is no turning back for you. You sir are the Domestic terrorist. How DARE YOU.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:46pmRon Paul REVOLUTION sign have LOVE in it. 4 years before Glenn Beck’s Restore LOVE.
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 3:39pmhttp://www.independentamerican.org/2011/12/08/ca-asset-talks-about-911/
Before you start demonizing him you should watch this… it will explain WHY they were gleeful.. and they WERE…
Report Post »CarlosAngel21
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 4:05pmWhy do People always ARGUE the FACTS!!! They seem to forget why the Attacks happen and what WE DID AFTER!!! RON Paul 2012
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 4:06pm“Gleeful?” Nope! No American Was “Gleeful.” Paul’s describing the terrorist nations — they were celebrating in the streets — That’s Being “Gleeful.”
Paul’s making blatantly distorted and irresponsible claims. Not only that he’s talking about a diabolical attack which would have brought any other nation than America to the brink of despair. By speaking so glibly about an issue of such grave significance to America, Paul has disqualified himself for being President Of The United States.
We don’t need another delusional BHO type in White House! Step Down Ron Paul = You Haven’t Got What America Needs!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 4:24pmBooger
You continue to attack those facts, but they’re just facts, it makes you look like an idiot to attack them.
Why don’t you try countering the facts with your own facts? Otherwise, smearing Alex Jones makes you look incredibly stupid. The Bilderbergs are not a figment of anyones imagination, and the Bohemian Grove has been exposed ON VIDEO. It isn’t some imaginary place in Nowhereland.
Now go and work on your retort.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 4:34pmNopeI’mANeocon
You bootlicking, warmongerering, social program-supporting, corporate welfare-yearning neocons can call Ron Paul supporters nuts all you want, you can’t elaborate into WHY you consider him nuts because it will expose you for what you REALLY are…
…a LIBERAL posing as a conservative.
No Neocons 2012.
Especially not Global Warming Gin-grinch or ObamaRomneycare.
Not even Patriot Act Bachmann.
Ron Paul 2012. No Compromise on Liberty.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 4:58pm@grassroots Obviously you fell for the misleading title, which makes it look like he said that Bush was gleeful because of the 9/11 attacks. He was talking about the Iraq war, not 9/11. Yes, wanting to attack Iraq was a long desired goal of many Government administrators. The headline is straight BS. The fact is that Bush Sr, Clinton and many other Progressives wanted a war with Iraq long before 9/11 even happened. Let’s see the quote again:
“before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq”
You read that? BECAUSE now we can invade Iraq. The word gleeful was referring to the quick willingness to attack Iraq. It was not about the 9/11 attacks. The headline is very deceptive.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:02pmLet’s get this straight. The NeoCons voted for Bush, they voted for McCain, and now they want Gingrich? Holy crap, they’re all the same! It was the NeoCons who wanted McCain, he was the most toughest and aggressive against Iran, and any other sandal wearing, robe wearing, cave dweller, goat sucking man living in the Middle East. This warmongering and fear mongering is getting ridiculous.
Let’s see. The NeoCons voted for McCain in 2008 (remember: bombombombomIran) and lost the election. That tells us one thing. The American people are tired of these undeclared, never ending, huge spending wars benefiting the bankers and corporations only, while stripping us of our rights and privacy here at home! TSA? Patriot Act? FEMA? DHS? Napolitano? TSA checkpoints? Emergency detention centers? Executive power and discretion to assassinate US Citizens? DHS labels TEA Party as domestic terrorists? Yeah, go ahead and vote for Gingrich, but you will loose again. And we can blame you NeoCons. This current foreign policy will be soon enough be exposed for what it is, a leftist Big Government foreign policy, devised to enforce a globalist Marxist agenda, shaped and formed by a very liberal Government and progressive Court system these past 40 years. And that’s the hard truth.
Report Post »cosette
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:54pmAnd this, my thinking friends, is PRECICELY why so many people think Ron Paul is a kook.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:59pmDear thick headed braindead sheeple that follow Beck around lapping up his BS,
Please explain what happened to THIS building at roughly 5:20 in the afternoon on 9/11/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=channel_video_title
NIST (that’s National Institute for Standards and Technology for the slower ones in the group) CHANGED their “official story” 5 times.
Report Post »So could you please enlighten us as to what happened, since you seem to think you know everything?
Can you provide another example of this EVER happening in the HISTORY of modern sky scrapers?
NO?
That’s what I thought.
Jefferson
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:14pmHere’s another film about PNAC for those who may actually WANT some truth instead of parroting what the TEEVEE told you.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fk6qkHs0oM
GOVT_ABOVE_THE_LAW
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:20pmI wasn’t a Paul fan last election. Frankly, I hadn’t done my own research and bought all of the “he’s a kook” stuff. I have since studied the constitution, which, as a Navy man for over 23 years, I have sworn to uphold and defend, and done quite a bit of research into history (especially after I started watching Glenn Beck on Fox). A lot of what Ron Paul says was and is shocking to me, but it is truthful. He is not candy-coating anything and has not, to my knowlege, ever lied about anything. The trick with Paul is to listen to the entire clip so you get the context of what he is saying. If you take the time to do that, what he says, although sensational, is 100% truthful. I know 100% truth is not something we, as Americans, are used to in our politicians, but he is the real deal and I will be proud to vote for him.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:37pmHere’s is a list of the “gleeful”
http://whodidit.org/cocon.html
Here’s a list of senior military that ALSO “question boldly.”
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Here another group of over 1500 architects and engineers that ALSO “question boldly.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
(actually they use the laws of physics to destroy the “official story”)
Report Post »TheePolitinator
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 7:38pmYes stick a fork in the ONLY person that has a clue. Your the reason this country is in chaos. Stop calling facts theories. Because in the end when your in your little fema camp you will then realize YOU were being used and played, you will then realize your an ignorant tool.
Report Post »Pendragon
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 7:56pmRon Paul is supports and is supported by Don Black which he gleefully poses for pictures with and his group StormFront, A Nazi USA Group who has him http://blogs4conservatives.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/ron-paul-and-don-black-photo-op/
Report Post »He also has a Grand Wizard of the KKK running his Campaign in Michigan
http://www.broowaha.com/articles/2951/ron-paul-county-coordinator-is-ku-klux-klan-organizer Needless to say his support by the Muslim Groups and there ya go Hitler Reborn as he did all the same things in his rise to power
colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 8:12pm@Pendragon You sound like a mad liberal trying desperately to malign TEA Party candidates. So, tell me which law has he sponsored or passed that even remotely resembles racism, hatred, or discrimination?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 8:25pm@Pendragon At the end, what does it matter? They’re going to vote for the GOP white nominee over Obama. Will the GOP nominee make a public statement saying he will disavow any racist voting for him or giving him money and support. Will he tell them to not come and vote for him? I wonder who they voted for and supported in 2008? I don’t recall McCain denouncing or returning any money to these racists. It’s one thing to do a commercial with a far leftist and promote the same progressive agenda, while abandoning all your principles, and being hypocritical, and it’s another to pose for a picture with voters and have no personal affiliation or association with them. But I think common sense must be dead now. As a physician, he routinely lowered fees or worked for free and refused to accept Medicaid or Medicare payments. As you may already know, most folks (percentage wise) on these federal programs are minorities. Yeah, he has such a cruel and racist heart. Arrhhh!
Report Post »Fella
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 10:13pmRP sends one over the heads of the Newt supporters.Lol He’s right, once again, but the truth is not something the neocons and chick hawks want to hear or are even capable of understanding.
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:28pmEither Ron Paul is an appeaser or an Anti-Semite.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:53amShiroi Raion
Report Post »Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:37pm
Well, I‘m guessing Ron Paul’s support is going to plummet.
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That would be a welcomed event. The sooner Paul is tossed out of the race for POTUS, the better!
KTsayz
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:46amWow. Does no one listen? Comprehension deficiencies abound on the blaze.
Ron Paul did not say the Bush admin was gleeful 9/11 happened.
And he said ADMINISTRATION, not Bush per se.
What some in the admin were gleeful about was that this tragedy created the perfect opportunity to invade Iraq. (never let a crisis go to waste)
I cannot believe the ineptness of some blazers to understand simple English.
Read and learn!
“The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), an influential neoconservative think tank, publishes a letter to President Clinton urging war against Iraq and the removal of Saddam Hussein because he is a “hazard” to “a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil.” In a foretaste of what eventually happens, the letter calls for the US to go to war alone, attacks the United Nations, and says the US should not be “crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.” The letter is signed by many who will later lead the 2003 Iraq war. 10 of the 18 signatories later join the Bush Administration, including Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Armitage and Robert Zoellick, John Bolton and Paula Dobriansky, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and George W. Bush’s special Iraq envoy Zalmay Khalilzad.”
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_482#complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_482
I wish people here would do their homework and grow up.
Report Post »Jayms
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:43amRon Paul. What a douche.
Report Post »Byzantine_Catholic
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:47amThe concept is “never let a good crisis go to waste”..NOTHING to do with the death of innocent Americans… This is just another hack job..SHAME ON YOU The Blaze
Report Post »Jeff Franklin
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:05amOnce again Ron Paul proves he is a traitorous Leftist spewing his George Soros / Alex Jones nutcase Nazi propaganda. Ron Paul hates Israel and America as much as the Islamo Fascist terrorists and American Nazis do. Okay, we get it! He should be thrown out of Congress! Wake up you wacko conspiracy theorists. You’re just repeating Nazi propaganda!
Report Post »Rajaat99
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:11amIf anyone believes that the United States was attacked because we‘re free and prosperous, then you are not very bright. I’m afraid Glenn has become part of the status quo. He wants things to remain as they are and not change for better or worse. The problem with that is that our status quo is not sustainable. Too much spending, too much military intervention. U.S. troops are currently stationed in over 150 countries. Ron Paul is right, bring them home.
Report Post »Bush is a neo-con. He wants the U.S. to be the world police force. Paul is correct, again, Bush was happy to have an excuse to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, the two countries that border Iran. Gee, I wonder who we’re attacking next?
Vechorik
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:22amIf you like Newt, then you like the Tofflers. Do you even know who they are?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=moFsABsJNL4#t=23s
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:23pmHe is right actually, do you honestly believe with our outstanding government that they managed to draft, debate and pass a 342 page bill (PATRIOT ACT) in just 45 days? Wake the f@#$@ up people
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:40pm@WARRIOR4ZION You sir are a troll and I cant believe what you just said. The most disgusting thing you said was that “Ron Paul acts like we are still living in the 18th century and that damn Constitution still means something” Tell you what, go and buy you a plane ticket right now to China and get the hell out of here. And if you would actually pick up a book and read a little history you might chose to read about Israel in 1967 during the Six day War where little bitty Israel managed to push Jordan, Syria and Egypt simultaneously back into their own countries before stopping. I think Israel is more than capable of defending themselves if they can fight a three sided front and emerge victorious. And I dont “Stand” for Israel or any other country other than my own. You are an idiot for saying it un-American to not stand for Israel. You are no better than Hitler for calling on the genocide of Arabs simply because you dont agree with them or like them. What right do you claim to kill another human being simply because they dont go to the same church as you? You religious people are going to start WW3 with your nuttiness if you continue with talk like this, smh
Report Post »Welfare-Warfare State
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:54pmBozo? You mean Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, or Cheney? I agree. They did a lot of harm.
Report Post »Theodwulf
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:54pmThe man is delusional….His ideal world doesn’t fit into the real world,rather than admit that he may be wrong on some points, he will redifine what “real” is until it fits his crazy ideal world.
It all comes out as the same conspiracy theories that the extreme leftists have put out.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:28pmYou’re the one who is delusional.
Report Post »drago
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:11pm@zengapa65 aka encinom
Report Post »Nice comeback……..moron.
Shane74
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:13pmPaul isn’t delusional. You people are letting the media play off of your ignorance of what it is he’s talking about. Go look what Bush said after 911 in the quote I posted. He “scored the trifecta”, in being able to unleash on Saddam and the middle east. It’s quoted, it’s old news, but for those who can’t wrap their minds around the fact that all of this taking down America and the free world started BEFORE Obama, I guess it’s hard to get used to.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:19pm@ Shanewhatever – how is responding to Dr Ron Neville Paul’s own words being influenced by the media? Kind of hard to put on spin on my own ears….
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:00pmTheodwulf, there is nothing delusional about less taxes and more freedom.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:05pm@DRAGO
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:11pm
@zengapa65 aka encinom
Nice comeback……..moron.
Since I don’t have any idea who encinom is, then “…moron” must be your signature.
Report Post »Nice to meet you Moron.
kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:30am@ Okie – your causation model is flawed. Perhaps if I type slower…It does not matter what we do or do not do, where we are or where we are not – the very fact that we exist and do not submit to being dhimmis or converts is the reason that the radical islamists wage jihad..plain and simple.
Would we have an issue with the Saudis on our soil (uninvited) well – yes that would be an invasion- Invited – not as much. Would we send planes into buildings in Ireland – I think not -
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:56amIf every big bad Muslim wants to kill you why would we defend Saudi Arabia and Kuwait against Saddam and you justify it and say it was ok without any repercussions? That shows you do not understand Islam and by not understanding it, conservative and liberal side of it, and holding an aggressive intervention policy caused reactions you have not the honor to admit.
No, not every Muslim wants to kill you.
If BO came out tomorrow and said the US government is allowing Saudi to build a base in Texas to defend our borders you know very well militias would raise up “in the name of God” to rid the country of them.
Just FYI- Saudi’s (hijackers were Saudi’s)ran planes into the towers because the USA was chosen over the Arab’s own army (jihadists) to defend Saudi borders.
Intervention is aggressive and has consequences. We could have very easily let Saudi defend herself and Kuwait as well just like we could of allowed Iraq and Iran to war without our intervention. Our intervention caused reactions and problems and responsible honest Men will admit such things.
Be responsible.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:20am@ Okie – how do you make such grand leaps from what I post and what you read into them?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:47am@KayDee
Should I type slower for you?
You wrote:
“It does not matter what we do or do not do, where we are or where we are not – the very fact that we exist and do not submit to being dhimmis or converts is the reason that the radical islamists wage jihad..plain and simple.”
That pretext insinuates you believe Muslims wage jihad so you will submit to being dhimmis or converts no matter what.
That is simply not true. Be it “jihadists” or Muslim you speak of, as ALL Muslims believe in jihad, the purpose of Jihad is not to make you dhimmis or converts. Jihad is waged in defense of Muslim land to rid such land of invaders. Jihad is not used to conquer the world.
It goes back to you not understanding Islam or what jihad is/means and is used for. Look at all the different jihads and each was against invaders and to defend “Muslim” land, not to conquer the world.
Intervention by the US in Kuwait/Saudi vs Iraq conflict unleashed a Jihad against Saudi/USA alliance inspired by al-Qaeda.
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:54am@KayDee, the vast majority of the rheotoric used here against Paul, is exactly the same language used every time he’s mentioned on Fox. That’s why.
And many of you actually believe that he’s anti-Israel. Or not pro-Israel enough.
I guess if we don’t have a standing army in Israel, or spend billions and billions each year on them, then you’re “anti-Israel.” Of course, we give seven times as much money to Israel’s neighbors. You know, those countries that don’t like Israel.
And of course, we install dictators into power over there, in order to maintain some level of control over the affairs of the middle east. Then the people hate us, and their governments so much, that they end up rebelling themselves into military dictatorships, with hardline stances against us and Israel.
We’re making things worse for Israel.
Think about it. 1967.
Did Israel need us to beat back the, was it 5, nations that were trying to destroy them?
No. They kicked their asses.
Now let’s look to today: Israel can’t do anything without us. They can’t set up peace negotiations without our blessing, they can’t even strike Iran without our blessing.
Do you know that Ron Paul was the only Senator who didn’t vote to condemn Israel, when they took out that nuke facility back in, was it 83? The rest of the GOP condemned them.
Paul didn’t.
Go look up what he said then, and tell me that shouldn’t apply NOW.
Then get off the talking points that O’Reilly and Hannit
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:59am@ Okie – oh please…jihad is not a response or reaction to anythng in the mind of radical islamists (again – note the distinctions- this distinction seems to keep being missed) it is the way of allah – period. You can chose to keep going right along with your ideas. I on the other hand chose to take a more measured tact.
But in the way of hypotheticals, I seriously doubt that if a Saudi (or you pick the country) vessel was “parked” at the Port of New Orleans, that we would see breaking news of a shrimp boat full of cajuns doing a suicide run into the side of it or read of a plane full of Methodists crashing into skyscrapers in Brussels
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:46am@KayDee
What is Jihad then?
Jihad is defensive and reacts to invaders
or
Jihad is aggressive and and is the invaders
Seems you are saying those ‘radical islamists’ are aggressive and invaders like the foreign intervention policy radical progressive hold. If it‘s ok for you to hold an aggressive policy shouldn’t you expect other to as well? Regardless, you are wrong, jihad is defensive and that can be proven with history and any Koran.
Look at how many want to revolt now because they foolishly think BO is a Muslim. Put a Saudi base and a carrier in port and Crusade would have a whole new meaning.
If you are for intervention just say so and then admit you are progressive. It‘s Woodrow Wilson’s policy. Have a great night!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 3:02am@ Okie – again oh please – where were we in 1993 that was so offensive to the radical islamists? Where were we in 2000 that was so offensive to the radical islamists? Where were we that was so offensive to the radical islamists in 2001. you have yet to answer my original question. Explain to me how anything we were doing or any place we were in 1993 (ist World Trade Ctr attack) 2000 (USS Cole) 09*11*2001 – justifies what was done to us and our ship? Explain to me how any culture would find those actions civilized or reasonable. How were the radical islamists right in their jihad even by your understanding of the just and civilized nature of true jihad?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 3:27am@KayDee
I have told you, you just don’t want to hear it.
We were in Muslim land. Ever since the fall of the Ottoman Empire we were there in some form trying to spread democracy thru $ and war.
August 1990-February 1991 Gulf War so in ‘93 we were still there.
In 2000 we had grown a bigger presence.
In 2001 we had grown more.
To Muslims attacking an invader (foreign unbeliever, USA) was justified by the Koran thru JIHAD which was inspired by al-Qaeda. All Muslims believe in Jihad.
In Muslim culture, unbelievers were not to be used or trusted for anything let alone be the army that defends their most holy of lands. It was a direct slap to Islam and believers of Islam for Saudi to do so and by America to encourage it. It would be the same as saying the USA would have the UN defend her instead of the US military or have Saudi come defend her instead of the US military.
It being right is not the argument. Why jihad happens is what we are arguing. As I said, anyone killing in the name of God is not of God in my belief of the Bible. al-Qaeda inspired jihad due to American intervention. That’s fact.
If for 1000‘s of years Muslim holy warriors were always used to defend the homeland thru jihad and then in the 90’s get replaced by a foreign unbeliever people, one should understand what kind of insult that was. Similar to the insult on the Samuri in Japan by the emperor siding with American Armies over their traditional Samuri.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:50amThat “crazy ideal world” is the same one our founding fathers envisioned for us. You know, a nation that follows the Rule of Law and abides by the Constitution under a Republican form of Government. It sounds so radical to day with all the “spread democracy around the world” BS. Just like the same nonsense the Liberals say, “redistribute the wealth to the poor”. This current foreign policy will be exposed for what it is, a leftist Big Government foreign policy, devised to enforce a global Marxist agenda, shaped and formed by a very liberal Government and progressive Court system these past 40 years.
As to this article. The title is misleading. He was talking about the Iraq war, not the 9/11 attacks. For some reason, thanks to the pathetic headline, folks are under the false impression that he said that Bush was gleeful over the 9/11 attack. That’s utter BS and false.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:15pmHow is Paul delusional? Mitt and Newt have both voted for or signed anti-gun legislation. Pauls stance?
Report Post »Ron Paul in the US House of Representatives, January 9, 2003
Mr. Speaker, I rise to restore the right the founding fathers saw as the guarantee of every other right by introducing the Second Amendment Protection Act. This legislation reverses the steady erosion of the right to keep and bear arms by repealing unconstitutional laws that allow power-hungry federal bureaucrats to restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
Specifically, my legislation repeals the five-day waiting period and the “instant” background check, which enables the federal government to compile a database of every gun owner in America. My legislation also repeals the misnamed ban on “semi-automatic” weapons, which bans entire class of firearms for no conceivable reason beside the desire of demagogic politicians to appear tough on crime. Finally, my bill amends the Gun Control Act of 1968 by deleting the “sporting purposes” test, which allows the Treasury Secretary to infringe on second amendment rights by classifying a firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun) as a “destructive device” simply because the Secretary believes the gun to be “non-sporting.”
West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:19pmcontinued:
Thomas Jefferson said “The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; …that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” Jefferson, and all of the Founders, would be horrified by the proliferation of unconstitutional legislation that prevents law-abiding Americans from exercising their right and duty to keep and bear arms. I hope my colleagues will join me in upholding the Founders’ vision for a free society by cosponsoring the Second Amendment Restoration Act.
Paul is the ONLY candidate that truly believes in the Constitution. All you Paul bashers are Anti-American in my eyes. You all should go live in another part of the world where they do not have that, what you believe is, pesky Constitution. I cannot believe how many Americans have decided the Constitution is a joke and that anyone who truly believes in it is delusional!! WOW.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:53pmHomework people……..“The Six Day War” and then tell me if Israel really needs us to defend them. Stop believing what the lames stream media and this place has told you. I used to admire GB, now I see he is just another part of the status quo
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:53pmI feel very sorry for those who still beat the drums of Nationalism without stopping to understand the history of our country’s foreign policy in the Middle East since the early 1950s. I used to think Ron Paul was a nut and I too carried the water for the GOP at election time. However, since 2008 I’ve read my history and my Constitution. I studied Ron Pauls statements, positions and did the research to find out where he was coming from. This man is an honest man, unlike the other candidates running for office. He is the closest we have to a Thomas Jefferson of our time. I stand with Israel and I stand with Dr. Ron Paul for the 2012 elections.
Report Post »WRXXXGeof
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:58pmRon Paul doesn’t stand for Israel though.
Jenasus
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:01pmLess government means more freedom for you and me to do as we please.
Report Post »Ron Paul for President of the United States of America 2012.
recoveringneocon
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:03pm@wrxx
Report Post »Why was Ron Paul one of the only members of congress not to condemn Isreal for bombing Iraq’s nuke program?
martinez012577
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:05pm@wr
Wrong. He was one of the only ones to really stand for Israel.
Click and learn.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/ronpaul#p/a/u/2/jFZpL8F4FgU
Squ33
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:07pmWRXXXGeof,
He stands for Israel more than you think. And now you are espousing term limits for politicians. Good Lord man, you need to really educate yourself. But I suppose that you are just another useful pawn for the progressive movement. Go ahead and vote for Romney or Gingrich. I hope your conscience is put at ease.
Report Post »WRXXXGeof
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:19pmRon Paul’s apathetic attitude towards Iran says more than some Youtube video says.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:19pm@bonnie, God bless you dear American! You did just educate us as to why you left off following the corrupt establishment…You studied the Constitution, You researched, ?You asked questions…in other words you used your brain…that is the difference between Dr Ron Paul supporters and the establishment zombies.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:21pmRon Paul’s ideas are not easy to understand, and will evade the casual thinker, and completely elude the typical troll, or GOP talking head. You have to think past the emotional rush that comes when you hear someone else explain something he said and delve into the idea he is really expounding on.
Report Post »Ron Paul sees solutions to problems, not remedies for wounds caused by a failed economic system backed by nothing but the wave of our Presidents hand, and a hollow proimise that “things are getting better” . I suspect, as many do, that Ron Paul can not be elected because we are no longer a nation where the thinkers win, we are a nation where zombie like voters show up and do the machines bidding. We need Ron Paul, now more than ever. No other candidate will take the harsh measures needed to dismantle the socialist foundation Obama has laid that will grip this nations soul for decades, if not forever..
dwilco77
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:23pmHe needs his own kid’s show on PBS, where he wears sweaters and teaches kids how to use their imagination. He would be really good at that.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:24pmhonest does not make ratonal.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:38pmThey do what they do (radical Islamists) because they are radical islamists. They will do what they do regardless of what we do or not do. You are assigning to them a semblance of having any of the same values or motivations that we do. They do not – just listen to what they say. They will not (and do not) believe in “live and let live” – we cannot “make nice ” with them because their idea of “making nice” is to give us the chance to submit before they eradicate us & by “us” I mean anyone who doesn’t want to be a dhimi or dead
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:20pm@KayDee
You are wrong on so many things.
Radicals do not attack us just because we are free, that is totally untrue. By saying they attack because we are “free” shows you do not understand the enemy or are simply lying about it.
bin Laden created al-Qaeda to inspire jihad against American forces being in the Middle East and until Americans leave the Middle East. Goals included:
-bleed America dry financially
-spread troops thin as well as intel groups
-cause dissent between Americans and her allies
Progressive foreign policy is aggressive, intervention, and is exactly was caused dissent against America and is exactly what legitimizes the Quran jihad and helps it grow.
Progressives want to rule the world and the only way to do so is thru an aggressive foreign policy that influences all governments either thru military force or financial support.
You know nothing of what you speak about and it shows. You are the problem. Wake up!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:52pm@ Okie… you may want to go back and read what I posted – I mentioned nothing about freedom… I basically said – they do what they do because of who they are not because of anything we do or don’t do. They have an agenda that has nothing to do with us. Which lands did we “occupy” that waeres “sacred” or claimed by the islamists before 9/11 – Germany, Guam, Great Britain, South Korea, Pueto Rico, Bulgaria, Japan, Italy, Israel, Kosovo, Brazil, Spain, Holland, Portugal, Singapore, Greenland, Cuba (Gitmo only), Kyrgyzstan, Potugal, Turkey? Hardly strongholds for Islam. We were in Kuwait (after the 1990s) Qatar, Bahrain, UAE – in the face of a map – the Paul doctrine hardly holds up
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:25pm@KayDee
“They do what they do (radical Islamists) because they are radical islamists. They will do what they do regardless of what we do or not do.”
They are reacting thru jihad, war against foreigners in homeland, due to aggressive progressive foreign policy of the US.: Spreading “Democracy” thru Military and Financial means cause “the end justifies the means”…If the US was not in the ME there would be no jihad…You speak ignorance over Islam and do not know what you speak about.
“Which lands did we “occupy” that waeres “sacred” or claimed by the islamists before 9/11″
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan, Yemen, UAE, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, and probably a few more. The first Gulf war was launched out of a “secret” base in Saudi Arabia.
One could also say Iran considering we supported the Shaw until their people rose up against a dictator supported by us and were hijacked by crazies who took power and are in power now. It was directly related to US intervention.
The direct reaction causing al-Qaeda was from Saudi using USA to rid Kuwait of Iraq under Bush I. al-Qaeda grew under Iraq war of Bush II when Saudi had us take Saddam out. Just like al-Qaeda will grow under Iran war we will likely have from Saudi lobbying for US to take Iran out of power.
Responsibility is owning up to ones actions, good and bad. Intervention was/is a stupid policy with dangerous consequences. In the face of a map Paul doctrine is proven true.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:15pm@ Okie – again you must be dense or geographically – before 9/11 which Arab lands were we “occupying” hint – Kuwait (not until after the Irag invasion of the 90s – we weren’t there before that – the reason the Iraqis were so bold to begin with), Qatar, UAE and Bahrain. The other lands you mention – here’s another clue – we do not / did not have bases there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases) – and while I will admit that I do not normally consifder wiki to be the end all be all of sources – there are sufficient links to support my thoughts)
So again, I ask, how does Dr. Ron Neville Paul’s (and your) assertion that because of our “occupation” in Arab lands (which we were not) constitute a reason for 9/11 ? Why do not the British, S. Koreas, Kosovinians, Portugese, etc harbor the same sentiments since we do in fact have and did have bases there on 9/11? How is I that in all of the corners of the world in which we have bases, it is only the Arabs that seem to want to annihilate us? . Here’s another clue – the other nations aren’t (yet) ruled by radical islamists.
I suppose before the school yard bully demanded your daiuly milk money you just walked up to him and willingingly gave it to him? Here’s another clue – I stood up to and challenged the school yard bully – dared him to come after me and challenged him when I witnessed him going after others. Guess what happened (because he was a slow lerarer) after a few confrontatio
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:38pmran out of room – after a few confrontations – the bully stopped and actually went fleeing and crying like the wus he was – so at my school we had Peace through strength (mine- through the gifts of the Almighty – Adonai li v lo ira – I fear not)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:39pm@KayDee
You do not know what you speak of so I will not call you stupid, just ignorant.
Yes we were in all those countries, the agency was/is well in place in them all. Iran during the 50‘s didn’t just happen from magic fairies. We were also in Kuwait as Iraqi’s moved in. Large number no but we were there and we were meddling and influencing the same as we are today. The “secret” base in Saudi Arabia was not built over night and they didn’t build it for the selves since they had/have no real army….Remember during the 80′s we were supporting both Iraq and Iran (thru Israel) during their 8 year war. We were also in Afghanistan during the same time aiding the jihadists against Russia.
9/11 was a result of jihad
Jihad was a result of al-Qaeda
al-Qaeda was a result of American intervention particularly with 1st Gulf War
“How is I that in all of the corners of the world in which we have bases, it is only the Arabs that seem to want to annihilate us?”
Because in the Arab “holy book” Arabs (Muslims) are to wage jihad (war) against foreign (US is foreign) invaders as the invaders will try to conquer and rule over them. By not understanding the culture we went into all those years back we esseciantly caused the Koran to be legitimized especially the call to jihad, to those who believe in such book.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:43pm@KayDee
A bully is one who comes pushing their agenda.
Intervention is pushing an agenda.
Aggression is bullying.
Confronting a bully is reactive, Non-Intervention.
USA is bullying “democracy” thru military and financial means. Ends justify the means. Progressive.
Learn the difference….
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:48pm@ Okie – you are deluded – If we were no where but inside the boundaries of the U.S there would still be a grand jihad against us. You ,sir, are the one who knows nothing about islam. Perhaps you should read the writings of Sam Solomon – http://answering-islam.org/authors/solomon.html
He is an Islamist Jurist (converted to Chritianity – so let me guess – that automatically disqualifies him – here’s another clue – he memorized – as the good little muslim that he was – the koran) I tend to accept his first hand accounts of the motivation of the islamists over your talking points
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:59pm@ Okie – so if all the jihad in the world is the fault of US “occupation” how is that since the time of Jefferson (less than 10 years into our existance) the radical islamists were still enaged in jihad ? They are commanded to jihad just as Christians are commanded for the great commission – yet there are only isolated (and wrong headed) examples of atrocoties from Christians (or Jew) yet real history is replete with examples of it from islamist? Here’s anpther hint for you – fable frog and scorpion – radical islamists are and forever shall be – by command through the koran- scorpions
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:06am@KayDee
Perhaps you should take a few trips to others countries, Muslim particular, and learn something besides what US news media tells you or what wiki says.
Jihad is waged for a reason, please tell what you believe that reason is.
I can show why it is waged thru a Koran and can show with bin Laden’s words the reason al-Qaeda was created and what the goals of al-Qaeda are. I have no talking pints, simple facts of history and words of the people themselves and the book they use.
Look what you just did; you could not prove your position, because you frankly do not know what you speak about, so you issue insults and refer to being deluded.
If Saudi Arabia was allowed to have a base in Texas to fight the border war for us do you think Americans would raise up in the “name of God” to rid the US of Muslims and Saudi’s? I do and it would be a REACTION to the Saudi’s being allowed to be here.
Be responsible.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:11am@ Okie – I agree about the playing both sides foreign policy argument you have made. I differ in that I think that whether we had done everything “right” would have made no difference to the radical islamists. And FYI – I am neither ignorant or stupid (I love how that is the first or second line of “debate” from the aPaulogists or the left – seem to study the same Alinsky play book – but I digress) The very fact that I exist and am not a dhimmi or refuse to convert – is reason enough for them to kill me (and you) I find it very difficult to reconcile that position. I will not be a frog
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:25am@KayDee
The time of Jefferson and wars you speak of were for the same reasoning, foreign invaders. We were trying for their shipping lanes and their pirates attacked us unless we paid a ransom and by paying such ransom these attacks did not happen. We tired of ransom and wage war finding alternative routes as well. Jihad is the army of any and every Muslim country, thus bin Laden and Islamists felt betrayed when Saudi used USA (foreign unbeliever) to defend against Saddam in Kuwait. bin Laden and true followers of Islam felt it was the jihadists duty and obligation to defend the Muslim lands. bin Laden created al-Qaeda to inspire jihad and do just that.
“Christianity” under Papal rule killed more then any other group on Earth. Due recall Muslims and Jews fought together against Christians in the first crusade….
I am a believer in Jesus Christ and His word needs no holy war fought for it and needs no violence to spread His word.
Be responsible.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:41am@KayDee
A progressive speaking about tactics?! Ha!
Dense and deluded are also tactics of Saul so is distracting by speaking about tactics. Practiced what you preach, do unto others as you want done to you. You think you can issue verbal attacks and have none thrown back at you in the same manner? Guess that goes hand in hand with your foreign policy. Irresponsible.
If you had ever been to a Muslim land you’d know how silly and ignorant you sound. Not every big bad scary Muslim wants to take your head off. If that were the case they’d be doing it now in the USA…..If that be the case why support Saudi in war or Kuwait? Seems hypocritical of you wouldn’t you say?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:42am@ Okie – so in the time of Jefferson – the very idea that our ships dared to venture near the Barbary Coast and we dared to take issue with the radical islamists taking our sailors hostage – is somehow a reasonable response? Piracy by the islamists is our fault? So no matter what happens, the radical islamist are justified and have the moral high ground? So what are we supposed to do? Bow down to any and all wishes and demands of the radical islamists? There is no rational way for us to win if everything they do is justified. We rarely act offensively Anyway it is late and I am through for the night
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:58am@ Okie – again putting words in my posts that are not there – I have not broad brushed muslims rather I have always spoken of radical islamists _ I know the difference – do you?. I called you deluded once. You in this post and many other replies to me in other posts have called me ignorant, stupid, wrong, uninformed, naive… not that I remember all or am keeping score (I do and I am)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:15am@KayDee
In the time of Jefferson – those routes were in the waters of Islamic pirates. Their waters. We could either not take those routes, wage war, or pay the ransom to prevent such attacks. Piracy was a reaction. Why did we pay ransom?
In the time of Jefferson, if Islamic explorers were sailing off the East Coast would had the American Navy captured such vessels until an agreement was settled on why they were there?
We are bowing down by using our military to protect the Saudi king and family. The very oppressive people you say hates you and the same oppressive people viewed as selling out to the “infidel” by their own people.
“There is no rational way for us to win if everything they do is justified.”
What are you wanting to win?
That is just it, there is nothing to win but everything to lose. Aggressive progressive foreign policy creates a perpetual never ending cyle.
Intervention=Progressive foreign policy
Report Post »If you support intervention, you are progressive. Hope you sleep well!
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:33am@KayDee
I have put no words in your mouth and I have only called you ignorant because your words show you are, wrong because your words show you are and uniformed because your words show you are. I don’t care what insults you call me, we both know it’s distractions.
“They do what they do (radical Islamists) because they are radical islamists. They will do what they do regardless of what we do or not do.”
Radical Islamists is what you use for Muslims who believe in “jihad”….Truth is all Muslims believe in Jihad, it is defense of Muslim land. Muslims, liberal verses conservative, just differ on when and who to use it against. Radical Islamists (jihadists) would have no jihad to wage if USA was not there. Therefore our action of being there correlates directly to the reaction of Jihad.
How do you not understand that?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:40am@ Okie – how about what I want is for them to adopt the same live and let live philosphy? I either accept their version or mine. In my version we all get to live and let live – in the radical islamist version – they live and I don’t because I will not submit to being a dhimmi nor will I convert. In my version – they do not have to be a dhimmi (there is no such level of existance in Chritsianity) nor are they required to convert to Christianity. What is so unreasonable about my version? I find thier version to be very unreasonable – you apparently do not – I will not make excuses for radical islamists.
If you have issues with your government policy, you vote, petition your reps, send in your diplomats etc. You don’t crash planes into buildings. There is no excuse for that
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:07am@KayDee
“how about what I want is for them to adopt the same live and let live philosphy?”
They hold that policy. Muslims just do not want western way of life in their lands or influencing their lands. Why not respect that and not intervene?
In radical Islamists version, jihadists, western influence is not wanted in Muslim land. Just like radical western religions believe Muslims should not be in USA Government nor want Muslims influencing Government. Same principle. Jihad ends once all foreigners are gone and/or stop influencing. Just like American crusades would stop once all Muslims left or stopped influencing if the scenario was reversed.
I’m not saying the idea of Jihad is good. I’m simply explaining why it occurs, the goals, and it’s purpose. If you want to “blame” we should blame the ones advocating Intervention without regarding the culture and possible reactions that could have occurred from intervening into a country who’s religion is not favorable to our own. The truth is Progressives simply didn’t care who it upset. They want power and influence over all countries. Intervention is the means to an end.
Anyone killing in the name of God is not of God.
Intervention is dangerous and aggressive and since we held such policy for so long we must be responsible as to what reactions came about due to such an aggressive policy. Intervention is progressive.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:17am@ Okie – yet again making suppostitons from things not in evidence. Another broad brush claiming I equate all mulims with radical islamists. I am willing to give most the benefit of the doubt – though according to Sam Solomen (I bet you still haven’t looked up my reference) the difference between a radical muslim and a moderate muslim is that the moderate muslim will take you to dinner, walk you to the door before he rapes and kills you. The radical muslim will just rape and kill you (paraphrasing)
I could say the same things about you as you have said about me regarding being uninformed, ignorant, stupid by your words….paraphrasing you about me
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:23amI do not relly worry too much about Pauls chances even with all the negatives on this site. This site is just full of Progressives that do not even know they are Progressives. This site actually has a very small following. On other sites, people are actually talking, listening to each other and coming to logical conclusions. There are more people coming over to Paul than any on these Progressives want to admit. There are Dems changing their party just so they can vote for Paul in the Primary. I mean, look who is for Romney and Gingrich; Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Heck, everyone on Fox and CNN. They try their best to keep Paul silent for a reason. I for one will not be for anyone that Bill O’Reilly is for. I can’t believe any of you would either. I used to be a Fox fan, but no more.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 3:04am@KayDee
“yet again making suppostitons from things not in evidence.”
Please reference what needs evidence.
Once again your words show your ignorance.
“the difference between a radical muslim and a moderate muslim is that the moderate muslim will take you to dinner, walk you to the door before he rapes and kills you. The radical muslim will just rape and kill you”
Do you believe Muslims want to rape and kill you, all of them, for no other reason but because they want to, which simply is not true or do you give them benefit of the doubt as you said and disagree with Sam? Can’t be both ways. You either agree with Sam or you do not and it sounds like you do but yet then say you do not. Are you even sure what you believe?
Actually you cannot say the same about me. I have traveled to several Muslim lands, interacted with Muslims and know all to well what their ideology is all about. I’ve tried telling you but you insist on repeating talking points of the progressive right to justify aggressive foreign policy.
If Muslims want to live under Islam, their choice. The USA should not be meddling in Muslim affairs nor should the USA be the army of any Muslim country. The USA should worry bout the USA. It’s pretty simple.
Just have enough honor to say you are for intervention and are a progressive. Have a great night!
@West Coast
I agree! I hope you are doing well and wanted to say keep up the good fight.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:58pmEverytime I see or hear someone say “he doesnt stand for Israel” I automatically think, media shill. You are so easily duped into believing something because someone told you to think that way. Go do your own homework as your messiah says and see if you still think the same way
Report Post »WRXXXGeof
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:53pmI’m gleeful that Mr. Paul will never get the nomination for POTUS. I find it ironic how a man who is all about extremely limited government has been a politician for half of his life. I guess term limits just have no place in his world.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:10pmBut he will hand BHO a 2nd term when he goes third party. He never said he wouldnt, he said he doesnt want to. Whats amazing is how ppl hate all these know it all politicians and how they think they know better than us and knows whats best for us yet will bend over backwards for their guy thinking he knows better!
Paul followers are beyond guilty of that double standard. The things they accuse other politicians of and their followers Paul is just as guilty of. Oh and sorry to say using the Constitution in every other sentence doesn’t qualify one to be president. “Its gives us the power” “we have the right…” and then he goes on and on with his rant never ONCE explaining what part of it he is referring to. Some things are obvious others not so and we are just to take his word for it?!. No sorry the last time this nation took a politician at his word who spoke so eloquent etc we got Obama. Now they want the other extreme of the political spectrum named Paul. No sorry Im not going to side with a libertarian who has dangerous views who is NOT a conservative and is only running as a repub b/c he thinks he has a better chance.
Thats what you call an opportunist, he wants to take on BHO why doesnt he challenge BHO for the DNC nomination. That way we will see once and for all who the better man is without putting the nation at risk!
No no that makes too much sense and he is a coward pure and simple.
Report Post »p00dah
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:25pmLol paul just as guilty as the establishment puppets? Yea, that makes sense..you people are lost. When you decide to unplug yourself from that zombified state, read this, then get back to me:
http://ronpaulvsnewtgingrich.soulstorm.net:8081/
Report Post »http://www.newtexposed.com/
colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:54amInteresting. He is actually the only candidate that has introduced and tried to pass legislation to have term limits. But I guess facts don’t matter.
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:12am@Bmartin
Ron Paul will not go third party. He will WIN the nomination because he is the ONLY true conservative on the stage now. Not a single other candidate has any integrity when it comes to HONOR, TRUTH or CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPALS.
You posted “using the Constitution in every other sentence doesn’t qualify one to be president”…
It is ULTIMATE LAW and rulebook for every station and office in our country. He shouldn’t have to explain to you or any true American citizen which section of the constitution he is referring to, YOU SHOULD KNOW IT and if you don’t, READ IT. You expose your ignorance with every word of your banter. You claim to be a citizen, yet bash the constitution? I believe in free speech, but as every other freedom it comes with responsibilities, consequences and a price. In my world, statements like that will earn you a fat lip and a black eye. I will stand up for and defend our Constitution, Free Markets and our way of life till the day I die and GOD willing my children will live in a free country for the effort.
You sir (and I use the term loosely on you) I question your honor and intent to perform your duty as a citizen of the country to which you have pledged your loyalty and that has given you the freedoms you discharge without thought or respect for the price that was paid for you by your heritage.
WAKE UP!!
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:53pmWhy is everyone complaining? It’s the truth!! The truth has no agenda, correct? Then what’s the problem?
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:57pmNot to mention, Ron Paul elaborated on his point with Megyn Fox, but don’t expect the Blaze to research this. A 15 second clip is ALL Blazers need to hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCt9-FNUSTE&feature=g-all
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:02pmTruth about 911. Ahhhh Jezzz. another Alex Jones NUT!
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:15pmThe Truth RP is a LIBERAL
Report Post »rdietz7
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:23pmSounds more like an opinion than truth. For example you’re at a funeral of a beloved elderly family member. Yo’re outside talking to a cousin or relative and they fill you in on something funny that happened in their personal life. You laugh as one of your great aunts walk by. All the old ladies at the sewing circle say that great grandson was gleeful at his own great grandmothers funeral.
Ron Paul’s inviting all his ardent followers to sit down at his sewing circle. Tell him your to busy but wave and give Dr. Sawbones as smile.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:01pmDustoff.. Glenn Beck has used most of Alex Jones material Verbatim on CNN and FOX as well as the Blaze..
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:04pm@RDIET27
The truth stings, does’t it, when it slaps you in the face
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:55pmIt’s the only way to defeat Paul. Bring up 9/11 sympathy card to get Americans to vote for a progressive. WONDERFUL!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:36pmTherealconservative?? Paul is the only real conservative running. You are blinded by the establishment and if you do not wake up, your offspring will suffer and you and people like you will be to blame.
Report Post »Lateris
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:53pmWhen are you guys going to understand hes a little off his rocker. He doesn’t even believe Iran has a Navy. And lo and behold they do…
I.Gaspar
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:34pmI don‘t think he’s seen his rocker in years…he’s just an old crackpot with a lot of confused followers looking for a leader to complete them.
Report Post »He should retire from politics, move to California and become another eccentric old poli sci professor with a few good ideas and a lot of loose screws.
colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 3:04am“The Iranian Navy has traditionally been the smallest branch of Iran’s armed forces and is designed mainly for securing its own ports and coast… In terms of major surface ships, Iran’s three destroyers are over 50 years old and are kept in material reserve at Bushehr.”
Yeah, their Navy is such a threat to our Nation and Military. Oh, the horror.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:09amJust knowing ron paul is a “truther” is all I need to know! These “truther” morons are so blinded by their hatred of W they will come up with the most outlandish conspiracy theories and if the lies are repeated enough these idiots start to believe it! If anyone was gleeful that day it was probably the America-hating obama and his muslim brethren! Get real people, oh BTW Iran and its’ proxy hezbollah have plenty of American blood on their hands,remember the Marine barracks in lebanon in 1983? What about iraq,the hand of iran is to blame for many U.S. casualties there, so any of you ‘truther“ IDIOTS got any ”facts” to prove any of your ********? You people are the reason obama is in the White House, layoff the kool-aid,they are obviously putting EX-LAX in it ! That would explain the many cases of diarrhea of the mouth !
Report Post »Isitoveryet..
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:52pmtruth is what he speaks.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:54pmReally…………..got any facts.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:28pm@DUSTOFF
Report Post »Just like a little toddler asking to be spoonfed..
There are PLENTY of “facts” out there, but you’re too stupid to put 2 and 2 together.
I thought I might be honored to at least be around certain people that thought they wanted truth, and accountability in their Govt..
Apparently I was wrong. Someone used the term “sphere of stupidity” in their comments here, and it was spot on.
Get on your Google machine there “DUSTOFF” and ride it on over to a place called PNAC and read their writings where they’ve said they needed a “new pearl harbor” , “to cause a helpful wave of indignation in the American public, so they’ll go along with the military endeavors in the middle east.”
Look at the members of that group and their positions in GWB’s cabinet, and you might just get a semblance of a clue. Your stupid sphere is pretty thick though.
I won’t hold my breath.
R.A. Bullseye
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:52pmI suppose that we also caused WW2 and the attack on Pearl Harbor. Maybe we also cause the assignation of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and WW1 too.
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:06pmBlowback is not direct causation but rather unintended consequences arising from one’s actions. Please do your homework instead believing soundbites. If you vote for another RINO who believes security is more important than our Constitution you will wake up in a totalitarian state. We are getting very near already. The Constitution and the willingness and ability of a candidate to uphold his/her oath of office should be the first consideration when voting for a POTUS. Dr. Paul has upheld the US Constitution with every vote. If one is not first a Constitutional Conservative then they are not a conservative at all.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:10pmIgnorance is bliss huh?
Here is Osama bin Laden on video declaring war on the United States in 1998.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw&feature=related
Here is Ron Paul saying the war would come to our shores, also in 1998.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw&feature=related
colt1860
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:00amDuring WW2, was there a constitutional Declaration of War passed by the US Congress? During WW2, did we actually face a potential threat or actual attack from a foreign Nation? During WW2, was there an actual threat or possible breach to our National Security? During WW2, did we fight a third world Nation, or a highly civilized, technologically advanced, and militarily developed Nation? During WW2, did we have an ally in actual danger and risk of being defeated? During WW2, did our allies ask for help and aid in fighting against their enemies? During WW2, did we go to war, fight the enemy, win the war, and return home? During or after WW2, did we engage in nation building? Was WW2 preventable? Was WW2 a regional conflict or unavoidable worldwide conflict? Was WW2 fought over ideology and religion, or abusive Government and mass centralization of Power? During WW2, were we as a Nation and People respected and admired throughout the World because of our trade, friendship and Christian charity?
As to this article. The title is misleading. He was talking about the Iraq war, not the 9/11 attacks. For some reason, thanks to the pathetic headline, folks are under the false impression that he said that Bush was gleeful over the 9/11 attacks. That’s utter BS and false.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:51pmBush was gleeful.
He started this preemptive war charade based on lies about WMD and lies about the CIA’s Al Qaeda… and the liberty-trampling, rights-stomping Patriot Act and FISA law was the result, along with the Nazi TSA.
Obama is just as gleeful continuing Bush’s Preemptive War strategy under the guise of Humanitarian Aid, because neocons are liberals, and the charade of Homeland Security continues with more rights trampling, and more false-flag attacks perpetrated by a corrupt government, i.e. Fast and Furious.
We no longer are supposed to be deathly afraid of Al Qaeda, but OWS protestors, the Tea Party, Veterans, gun owners, AKA Americans.
I reject that false reality and submit to you that your own government is utterly corrupt and intent on dismantling the entire Constitution and breaking the United States up into 5 FEMA regions, and has delcared war on the American people with the National Defense Authorization Act.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:05pmYou mean that war.. that BOTH Dem’s, England, and many other nations though he had.
WOW, now that’s proof baby.
Face it RP is a NUT!
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:24pmFellow Americans when someone is really not here to learn the truth but only here to call names remember there are many people actively plotting the destruction of our Country…dont be surprised they come here to work their evil.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:44pmLet’s just look at the WMD argument from a real life perspective. Sadaam prevented any real look into it for years – do ya’ suppose during those years he could have destroyed or hidden them? Let’s look at it this way – suppose you see your neighbor unloading truck loads of cocaine. You call the police or DEA to report the shipments. The DEA calls your neighbor and tells them, I heard you have been unloading truck loads of cocaine. We will be coming to check it out on Friday. The neighbor says – Friday doesn’t work for us – How about Wednesday. What do you suppose the DEA will find on Wednesday?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:30amWow. Just…wow.
Your logic is blindingly flawed.
You have no case. No dope, no case. No WMD, no case.
In what hypothetical dimension does the DEA call and say “Hey we got a complaint that you‘re moving cocaine we’re gonna pop in on ya and check it out…”?
That isn’t a “real life perspective”, that is a Disneyland, made-for TV perspective. Irregardless if that imaginary hypothetical occurred in real life, YOU STILL HAVE NO CASE, YOU HAVE NO DOPE.
YOU HAVE NO WMD.
SHUT UP.
IAEA pops up at my door, says they have a complaint that I’m manufacturing WMDs, they can’t even get a warrant unless they have something more than just a complaint… I tell them ain’t nothing happening, and slam the door in their face. They blow my house to smithereens and set it on fire like WACO…
Turns out the packages I was moving wasn’t WMDs at all – but helium balloon canisters- but I’m shot up dead, and my house is burned to the ground. And how convenient…
OOPS.
Go take another percocet or something.
Report Post »Jenasus
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:50pm9/11 was a conspiracy to take away our our rights of privacy and start a world war against so called terrorists. After 9/11 anyone could buy a house and demand rose as did prices until the bubble burst. This was another conspiracy to bankrupt the world so the world will have to go to a one world currency followed by a one world government. The New World Order.
Report Post »In the NWO we the people will lose all our rights of freedom as citizens and become subjects of the New World Order. Than we will be implanted with computer chips to make us infertile and fed genetically engineered food that will be poisoned to kill us off.
endgamer
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:55pmHear Hear!!
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:56pmCARE to prove your 911 idea. Like most losers. Bet loose change is your best web site.
Report Post »Jenasus
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:03pm9/11truth.org is one place to look.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:05pm9-11 was an inside job!
RESIST THE NAZI POLICE STATE!!!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:09pm911truth and prison planet has absolutely no truth, just speculation, I have watched them all.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:27pmBooger you’re lying, because everything Alex Jones asserts is researchable and corroborated. He links to everything he reports. PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com is more credible than the so-called mainstream media which is really now the alternative media, because they have lost all credibility.
The movement continues to grow proportionally with the distrust of the corporate/government-controlled media.
Even Hillary admits, they’re losing the Infowar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMoeDaLV2WA&feature=player_detailpage#t=35s
No wonder they want to shut us down.
WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 10:34amBooger you’re lying,
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Nope, I am not lying, your just seeing “facts” that are not really facts. Mere supposition.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:12amROTFL @ supposition.
Nope, they’re facts, I just played the video for you, who has more credibility, Hillary or YOU?
At least she has plausible deniability and can claim her intel on the Infowar is off because of the incompetence of this administration and government overall, but what’s YOUR excuse?
You’re just an uninformed idiot.
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:50pmGo ARMY Beat Navy!!!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:11pmHooaah!
Report Post »bajasurfer
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:50pmI don‘t know if I would’ve used the word “ Gleeful ”. But , I do think they saw an opportunity fall right into their lap so they could invade and control the region .
Report Post »obgone
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:58pmYes, Paul is a bit out there, he choice of words leaves something to be desired. How He can say anyone was gleeful after the lost of lives he beyond :words” The opportunity to go to Iraq was necessaery, however, I dont believe President Bush nor his Admin were gleeful about sending Americdans to war. How does this guy get so much support, he should be on MSNBC as a commenator
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:01pmYeah…they saw an opportunity all right…from a mile away.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:09pmBush jr. was just sweeping up the mess his dear old daddy left.
Report Post »stillshocked
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:50pm“Glee: exultant, high-spirited joy.”
Report Post »This kind of thought process is precisely why this man is not a viable candidate.
Roaran
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:50pmBy the way, I believe he said, “people in the Bush administration,” and not directly accusing the entire administration as this story seems to imply.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:16pmNo one (except the radical left and the radical islamists, perhaps some aPaulogists and those too young to comprehend) were anything but gut wrenched on 9/11
Report Post »Shane74
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:00amKayDee seems incapable of basic english comprehension: He said that they were gleeful that they had “scored the trifecta!”, in that they could now enter the middle east conflicts that had been on the drawing table for years.
That’s all on record. KayDee might not know it, as I think he was only 14 when 911 happened.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmAre you certain that he and Pelosi aren’t related?
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:51pmTruth hurt huh? All Paul does is speak it, and all people do when they don’t like it do is cringe and call him names.
Report Post »bajasurfer
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:59pmIt seems to me that Ron Paul is shaking up the establishment and they’re getting nervous . All of a sudden we have so-called Conservative websites attacking Paul . Rush was even attacking him today . The liberal neocons are having a hissy fit .
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:23pm@ bajasurfer….Liberal, Neocon is a contradiction of terms. Neocon, or new conservative, is the antithesis of the definition of liberal. This bothers me almost as much as the people who call conservatives Nazis, when the National Socialist Party of Germany was indeed, the Nazi party.
Report Post »Please buy a dictionary before you continue to post here. Reading your posts leaves me feeling dumber for having read them.
Shane74
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:12am@Tyranny- The term neocon is right on. Just the same way that Liberal‘s pretend that they aren’t for big government, many neocons pretend that they too are not for big government. They are both for big government. One wants to spend all of our money on “defense”, the other on social programs.
Hence why Gingrich is a neocon. We all know he wants the biggest government possible.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmAgain… Paul sinks himself further in the abyss with his Liberal Obama / Code-Pink… blame America first views. The guy is cooked in the Republican nomination process in the long run, so I’m betting this leftist shill runs as a third-party candidate. Ron Paul = Obama for 4 more years.
Report Post »Welfare-Warfare State
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:55pmIt’s Newt and Romney that are the big government statists. If you support them, so are you.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:00pmIt’s absolutely hilarious to see all the neocon shills here with cognitive dissonance trashing Ron Paul.
Here’s a little secret…neocons don’t really care whether Obama gets reelected or not… they‘re perfectly happy with Obama’s warmongering. Remember, Obama is just continuing Captain Neocon Bush and Pulseless Zombie Cheney’s Preemptive War Strategy under the WEAK VENEER of “Humanitarian Aid”, and your rights keep going “BYE BYE!” while the neocons keep defending that war criminal Bush.
These neocons will have a tantrum if you dare not relinquish all your sovereignty and liberties for a false sense of security from the “big bad muslim boogeyman” and the “abominable urban minority”. They are absolutely blinded to the intrusions of our liberties started by their idols Bush/Cheney and continued by Obama/Biden.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:18pmThe media’s fabricated polling and magical rise of Gin-grinch will dissipate like a vampire in sunshine- like so much fog in the morning- when we write our votes in for Ron Paul.
He will crash and fall like the rest of those neocons, and if you don’t stand for liberty with Ron Paul, you will get exactly what you would get anyway with Gingrinch, another 4 years of liberal/neocon tyranny.
But you would like that, wouldn’t you? After all, you’re just a neocon posing as a conservative. It doesn’t really matter to you whether Obama or Gingrinch is in there.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:14pmOMG! The STATIST and NEOCON words… lol. You Paulestinians are killin’ me! LOL.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:07amIt’s just a word, one which describes you. You don’t have to have a conniption fit over it.
I don’t mind being called a Conservative Libertarian, why would you have a problem being called a Neoconservative? You are what you eat. What you eat doesn’t move my bowels. Birds of a feather flock together, and all those cliches.
I never said anything about “statist”. Freudian slip?
Nevertheless, your attempt at humor for levity, AGAIN, fails miserably. You haven’t given me a sufficient retort. I know you can do better than that…
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:05pmA vote for Gingrich, Romney or any other current GOP big government candidates means more wars, more spending, and with the current state of the economy and its unwinding of the so called “recovery” as of recently I fear that this nation will collapse under its own debt. Be careful what you wish for. And I honestly believe that if Paul does not win the primaries he will run as either Independent or Libertarian. And with him he will take his massive base, me included. Most of my fellow soldiers I talk to will stand with this man no matter what ticket he runs under because he is honest and actually stands by his principles even when its not popular. How is your candidate doing?
Report Post »rtist542010
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmRon Paul, you are one sick and disgusting puppy. I hope you get tarred, feathered, and run out of town for good.
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:09pmYou don’t exude the love that Glenn Beck promoted in last nights show do you? Better work on yourself before attacking an honest man like Ron Paul.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:26pmPaul an honest man? Lol. You must be in his Congressional District. This [honest man] has been duping these these rather naive folks into believing he’s a Republican for how long? Ha!! He even had Reagan duped for awhile until he [Paul] showed he was a coward and a fraud. Paul‘s a carpet bag’gng Libertarian. He‘s no Conservative and he’s certainly no Republican.
Honest man… my @ss.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:08pmThere is a huge difference between metaphorically speaking – i.e. venting (I realize the art of rhetorical writing is lost on the left) and actually meaning real harm to individuals – however from a historical concept – Tories were literally tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail – try google even there this reference still comes up on the first page of results
Report Post »Ross
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmAlthough I like a lot of what Ron Paul has to say, it is comments like this that will keep him from getting elected.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:52pmDuhhhhhhhhh. the guy is a loon.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 10:18pmROSS — learn WHY he said that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0jXFjaBbH0 Wesley Clark said they had it planned BEFORE 9/11
All the wars in the Middle East were planned BEFORE 9/11 — media won’t tell you that. Dr. Paul will.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:05pmvech
Report Post »Wow how come I never have seen that? good video
Jenny Lind
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmRon Paul just lost my vote for that insane remark. No one in this country, especially our President was “gleefull”. He may not be perfect, but he is a human being who saw the loss of all those family members as tragic. No one wants war unless they are crazy, and President Bush was not, and is not crazy. Gleefull is the last word that should be used in regards to that hellish day and time. Shame on Ron Paul.
Report Post »I Love Freedom
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:26pmYou should listen to his coment he made to Maygn (Fox news)about being gleeful about 9-11. He said the Bush administration and the neocons had a excuse to invade Irqa
Report Post »p00dah
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:29pmWHat was insane about? He said they were gleeful because they finally had an excuse to go into iraq, which was being planned for years. Do you even know your history? Did you know we used to be allied with Iraq? Did you know we supplied them with chemical weapons to help them in their war with Iran, a war we played both sides in? Did you know that Saddam was going to start selling his oil for euros? Do you know what what would have done to the petro-dollar? Saddam wouldnt take orders anymore, so we went in there like we always do so we could ‘spread democracy’ *yea right*… Bush was a murdering tyrant, and a horrible human being for all the crap he did, working for his David Rockefeller cabal of global dominion like so many before him. Maybe one day youll research what our country is really about…til then, have a look at this:
http://ronpaulvsnewtgingrich.soulstorm.net:8081/
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Vechorik
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:00pmRon Paul isn’t perfect. He was kicked out of school — twice. The first time was for allegedly bribing a grade school chum “two bits” to throw a baseball through a window. The second was for bringing firecrackers to Dormont High — and that time he ratted on himself.
“He couldn’t stand the principals who were dictatorial,” Jerry says. “He would call them fascists.”
Still, he was elected president of the student council at Dormont and won the school’s service award three years running. But he really excelled at track. His junior year, Paul placed first in the state in the 220-yard dash, second in the 440 and third in the 100. Pennsylvania State University offered him a full athletic scholarship.
When he tore the cartilage in his right knee playing touch football that summer, Penn State was still willing to take a chance on him. But Paul decided he couldn’t accept in good conscience. “I was not confident I could meet the standards of honoring that scholarship,” he says.
I don’t believe he would want to become President either, unless he knew he could do a darn good job of it!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 6:00pm..forgot to say Jerry is Dr Paul’s brother
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmI‘m actually getting tired of Ron Paul’s antics. Fiscally he’s on the right track, probably the most sensible thing he suggests is to audit the Fed. But we’ve tried isolationism in the United States..it didn’t work.
Report Post »thekuligs
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:25pmI know, I think he is completely off base with his foreign policy–all of it. The idea of closing down all of our foreign bases and limiting our ability to launch attacks on our enemies who will one day come for us is insane. While I agree there are some places that hate us because we are there; China, for example, hates us and we do not have a base there.
Every time I mention China to the Ron Paul Koolaid drinkers they quickly change the subject because it does not fit his grand scheme of things!
Report Post »jnpg
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:59pmOK – So Ron Paul is right fiscally. Put this in your thinking cap- China funds the U.S. by buying our (bad) debt. We go to war with China’s allies (Iran, Pakistan etc). Just who in the world is going to fund our war-machine? Please go listen to the whole speech. He makes sense, you just have to THINK! The truth has no agenda- open your eyes to see the only one that is NOT run by big politics is Ron Paul.
Report Post »p00dah
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:37pmMan, wake the f up already. How long are you idiots going to remain in the dark? The guy predicted all the crap we would be in for years and no one wanted to listen, then it happened. He never said it anyone was gleeful about 911, he said they were gleeful over being able to attack iraq, because Saddam was going to start selling oil for euros and god forbid our dollar gets trampled on. You people are clueless. You have no idea how corrupt this government is and the lies they have been telling for ages. We have become an imperialist and doing nothing but occupying countries for special interests that serve our needs, not to help these people there we could care less about.
Wtf is so wrong about following the constitution? What is so wrong about giving people their freedoms back? What is so wrong about saving billions on these stupid @ss wars that arent ‘wars’ anymore? The guy has been preaching the truth for years and predicted the housing bubble. He predicted all these retarded wars and the blow back it would cause…Keep laughing, because we are on the path the soviets were…they lost in afghanistan, and collapsed soon after…and where are we right now? Yep…gettin our asses handed to us over there too, and facing imminent collapse as well.
http://ronpaulvsnewtgingrich.soulstorm.net:8081/
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US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:15pm@KULIGS We just announced we have a missle that can hit anywhere in the world in mere minutes. Still think we need bases all over the world in 130 countries? I happen to know first hand what us being in several countries does to the local populaces’ perception of Americans. How do you seem to know so much about foriegn policy? What exactly are your credentials?
Report Post »Brae
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmhe’s been sniffing something……………
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:53pmAhhhh try Smoking.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmRon Paul has been watching way too many Michael Moore movies! I’m sure if Ron Paul had been president on 9/11, Iraq would have nukes by now just like Iran will have soon with having Obama as president, Iran would be infested with Alquita training camps and a steady stream of suicide bombers being dispatched weekly to the US and Israel. Ron Paul and Obama have about the same foreign policy!
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:46pm@gary
Report Post »That sounds just how the bush people sold us the Iraq War. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Nuke program, Terrorist Camps, Al Qaeda, etc. How did that turn out? It’s hard to admit being fooled, but being free of this embarassment, can really open your eyes.
garyM
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:50pm@recoveringneocon I understand what you said there Paulie, I just know it’s a lie! Struck a nerve huh!
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:42amIt is time to clean republican party from neo-cons and intellectual midgets like Garym. Back to the Constitution to rediscover things our country and people have lost – peace, individual liberties, sound money, prosperity.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:52amWhile I don’t defend Mr. Paul’s foolish and slanderous use of the word “Gleeful,” he’s basically right about the issues involved. Iraq was not a threat and didn’t have a weapons program. They didn’t have one any more because President Clinton bombed legitimate targets based on reliable intelligence. If we had continued to only bomb legitimate targets based on reliable intelligence, we would not have to worry so much about Iran either, because we would still have the support of loyal allies who trusted our judgment, instead of nervous ex-allies who fear we might try to drag them into yet another rash and misguided conflict.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 1:49pmGary, you are not very logical at all. Comparing Ron Paul to Obama on foreign policy? No, compare BUSH to OBAMA and you have a clone there. They are fighting all these terrible useless destructive wars in the middle east. You are all duped. We don’t need to be over there. We need to be HERE defending our own country and secure the borders. That’s the problem, we are not doing that.
But we are bombing foreign nations and alienating everybody.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:37pmits true tho. You believed the governments war propaganda. Until Americans realize we did not go to war because of 9/11.. we will always be in this mess were in.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:21pmNo actually Iraq would be selling their oil in euros right now, thats why Saddam had to be taken out. Just like big bad Gahdaffi was trying to make a gold backed currency and unite the countries of Africa. A gold backed currency would destabilize ALL paper currency. And a united Africa would make it very difficult to eploit for its vast amount of resources. Turn the damn TV off and actually read a book or use google for f@$2 sake but stop listening to what the media tells you to believe
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:44pmOne. Scary. Dude.
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:49pmnasty little man… he’ll end up losing the election for republicans…if people don’t want him as a nominee…hell, he’ll jost go start a third party and make sure no conservative makes it to the white house..He and Matthews need to get together with their stupidity..between them they might have 1/2 a brain
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:51pmI actually liked what Ron Paul had to say, before he decided to talk about his thoughts on foreign policy. Just the stuff he says with regards to how he would deal with Iran, is very scary and totally naive stuff.
Report Post »Masonforliberty
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:52pmSo the administration that flew off the handle and wound up invading two countries is sane, and the guy who says maybe we should have given it some deliberation and got a constitutional declaration of war is scary? You sir are one of the reasons we are on a fast track to oblivion. How does the kool aid taste?
Report Post »Welfare-Warfare State
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:53pmYou mean Bush or Cheney?
Dr. Paul was only pointing out that the neo-cons (fake conservatives) got a gift with 9/11. It gave them cover for doing what they already wanted to do with Iraq.
Paul O’Neil, ex-Bush administration official, points out in the very first Cabinet meeting neo-cons in the administration were already laying out plans to go into Iraq. That was months before 9/11. Bush remarked to Bob Woodward that is was “great that we get to go after people that weren’t directly involved in the attack.” Are Woodward and O’Neil both lying? I’ve never heard any Bush Administration official even attempt to refute them.
Some of you should look up “Project for the New American Century.” It was a neo-con policy paper written back in the 1990′s. They called for regmine change in numerous Middle Eastern countries. Iraq was top of the list.
Dr. Paul is merely pointing out that of course neo-cons in the administration were gleeful that they were given cover to do what they had already planned. He didn’t say they were gleeful about charred
American bodies. So: before any of the demagogues and neo-cons (fake conservatives) start, that isn’t what Dr. Paul is saying.
I think many of you have too much emotionally and intellectually invested in your foreign policy beliefs and support for the big government Bush administration. Your ego won’t allow you to admit you were conned. The same thing can be said of Obama supporters who won’t admit that he is a mista
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:00pmLMAO. Heeeere we gooooo. Ron Paul supporters trying to make a Ron Paul fart smell like a Texas Rose…. again.
Face it… Ron Paul is a one Conservative trick pony and then he rides off into the Liberal sunset. For good I hope. Freakin’ leftist Code Pink POS.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:06pmIf you phony Americans dont have at least a little clue by now..you never will, it really does getctiring trying to educate you irresponsible clowns..The fact is we have a complete generation of leeches that are only here to live off of us? While soldiers and Americans that care fight this battle againt evil uou hold our hands down and fight against the cause of Liberty, You come on here and calk namescanf run like the cockroaches you are! You cannot debate fact from fiction so you resort to stupidity? It shows us patriots that liberalism really is a mental disease, Here’s what you nazi footsoldies dont understand, WWE THE PEOPLE are tired of the destruction you have been doing to us as a people. YOU HAVE LOST your stranglehold on the media news outlets that you have used for years to shape the thoughts and actions of WE THE PEOPLE. You are no longer our task master, We have fled the plantation of government tryanny and are organizing as ONE VOICE AND ONE PEOPLE! You have seen what WE THE PEOPLE can do when we vote your corrupt and bloated carcases out of office…you thought the TEA party has dissapeared?? Lol…open your eyes, We are here and growing stronger every day! You have pushed the lie that we have been co opted by the establishment…keep dreaming along with them.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 7:16pmHis Rono-con worshipers are sad. They do not know enough of the Constitution to realize that one man alone can not effect the change they seek without 60% of Congress being his clone.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:29pmPoint of Fact that the aPaulogists seem to want to conveniently dismiss – Congress did approve our involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq – Constitutionally we are required to get Congressional Authorization ( a de facto declaration of war) Bush did just that
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:59pmWe all know the ones against Paul are clearly government guys/slaves/or paid liberal obama supporters to keep typing negative comments on Paul. Nice try though.. Why don‘t ya’ll just read Bin Ladens quotes. Dummys. So explain to me why we are still at war.. when Bin ladens dead? GO ahead.. explain that to me Paul haters??? Its obvious we did not go to war because of Bin laden. It is obvious.. how dumb can you be
Report Post »p00dah
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:39pmMills, buy a clue please? Man, wake the f up already. How long are you idiots going to remain in the dark? The guy predicted all the crap we would be in for years and no one wanted to listen, then it happened. He never said it anyone was gleeful about 911, he said they were gleeful over being able to attack iraq, because Saddam was going to start selling oil for euros and god forbid our dollar gets trampled on. You people are clueless. You have no idea how corrupt this government is and the lies they have been telling for ages. We have become an imperialist and doing nothing but occupying countries for special interests that serve our needs, not to help these people there we could care less about.
Wtf is so wrong about following the constitution? What is so wrong about giving people their freedoms back? What is so wrong about saving billions on these stupid @ss wars that arent ‘wars’ anymore? The guy has been preaching the truth for years and predicted the housing bubble. He predicted all these retarded wars and the blow back it would cause…Keep laughing, because we are on the path the soviets were…they lost in afghanistan, and collapsed soon after…and where are we right now? Yep…gettin our asses handed to us over there too, and facing imminent collapse as well.
http://ronpaulvsnewtgingrich.soulstorm.net:8081/
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JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 5:02am@TXPILOT
“I actually liked what Ron Paul had to say, before he decided to talk about his thoughts on foreign policy. Just the stuff he says with regards to how he would deal with Iran, is very scary and totally naive stuff.”
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If George Washington were running for the nomination today you would be saying the exact same thing about him.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:37pmscarey to the establishment if thats what you mean
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 2:42pmLmao, what a bunch of sissified democrats you all are here in this thread.
That evil little man who has the gall to go to CONGRESS TO DECLARE WAR?! LUNACY! We must have a dictator that declares unconstitutional WARFARE!
That scary little man that would stop all foreign aid and get back to following the constitution?! INSANE! WE HAVE TO EXPORT DEMOCRACY AND ITS INSIPID FLAWS along with all the money to buy off other dictators, then we have to scream and pull our hair out when those nations vote in leaders against the US… then… *cackle* we get to go to WAR! All because it’s IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPORT CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICANISM!
Saying that our foreign policy contributed to 9/11, yes, FINALLY….
I’ll agree with you nutcake whack-jobs: the CIA, NSA, FBI, 9/11 Commission and more were all ABSOLUTELY CRAZY for saying the exact same thing Ron Paul did; you all are the light and wisdom this world needs, Ron Paul is nuts for stating an absolute truth. Further, if Ron Paul ever states something as INSANE as 2+2=4 I will be sure to laugh in his face and tell him my pretenda-republican progressive friends of George Bush told me to.
Thank you Thank you! I’d like to give a shout out to two special folk with liberal sticks up their a$$ – lets hear it for YepImAConservative and his wife in liberal debauchery, Kaydee!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:43pmThis man needs help. I think he has lost his moorings, if indeed he had any to start with.
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:48pmLive in La-La Land all you like; there were, there are, and there always will be people who want an excuse to go to war, and make serious $$ from it.
Ron Paul just doesn’t have a problem telling the truth.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 6:51pmI was wondering when this wacko would lose it. So now here has. After going on the Alex Jones show about 911. I knew this day was coming.
So RP, have any facts to back up your claim!
LOSER.
Report Post »drago
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:09pmKick, rp is nothing more than a lunatic, and a total waste of caucasion skin……
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 9, 2011 at 8:57pmand your just a slave being used by modern media. Its actually kind of sad watching people like you walk around this society. Don’t you just feel so sued & abused yet?
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on December 10, 2011 at 12:37am.
Sadly all so-called patriot and conservative hosts failed the title. Rush, Beck, Levin, Hannity – all are good at barking at the Left, but are limited in defending personal freedom, peace and sound money. Like socialists they love scare tactics, special interest groups, pet projects and are not shy growing big government and trade unions via Pentagon and Homeland Security. No wonder when Reagan, Bush | & Bush || were in power the conservatives did not get anything, while the Left got what they wanted – big government, no child left behind, huge aid to Africa and other countries, nation building, drug wars, free prescription drugs, etc. Neo-cons are in practice the same as the Left.
RON PAUL 2012 !
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