Ron Paul Denies Saying He Wouldn’t Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid in Pakistan — But Here’s the Video
- Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:54am by
Mike Opelka
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Last night’s GOP debate in South Carolina may be one that causes Ron Paul some problems in the “honesty” department.
Mr. Paul‘s truthfulness is being questioned after he told Fox News’ Brett Baier that he never said that he would not have given the order to go into Pakistan and kill Osama bin Laden:
There‘s just one small problem with Paul’s denial, he did say it, several times.
Back in May of 2011, and featured here on The Blaze, Ron Paul said three times in a two minute discussion of the topic, that as President of the United States, he would not have ordered bin Laden killed in the manner that President Obama did.
Simon Conway was quite clear in his questions, first asking;
So President Ron Paul would therefore not have ordered the kill of bin Laden, which could have only have taken place by entering another sovereign nation?
And Dr. Paul was equally clear in his response:
I don’t think it was necessary. No.
Less than a minute later, Conway attempted to further clarify by again asking the congressman”
So President Ron Paul would not have ordered the kill of bin Laden, to take place, as it took place in Pakistan?
Ron Paul’s response was consistent with his two previous answers.
Not the way it took place, no. I mean he was unarmed, you know… and all these other arguments.
Watch the two minute excerpt as Simon Conway of WHO Radio in Iowa repeatedly asks the Texas Congressman whether he would have given the order to kill Osama bin Laden.
That clip from WHO Newsradio 1040 appeared on The Blaze on May 11th.
For those interested in the entire question and answer on the topic of the bin Laden killing, we offer this clip, posted by fans of Ron Paul. The portion under scrutiny begins at the 7:40 mark.
(H/T: Simon Conway of WHO)
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RiseLiberty
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:45amAmazing how these hopeless PaulBots just refuse to see the weakness in this man. He claims he would have “handled the bin Laden situation differently”. Well what exactly does that mean? Since Pakistan was harboring him and lying to us at the same time, the only other way to “handle it” would have been to get Pakistan’s help and since they would not have helped, there would have been no other “different” way. So basically, Paul never would have pulled the trigger. It’s Ron Paul doublespeak again. Get a clue groupies… Your man never had the stomach for this war, and never will. Put him in the cabinet as secretary of the treasury, but keep him away from foreign policy because we would never be safe in our beds with Ron Paul directing the military.
Report Post »masters11111
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:53amA fool mistakes kindness for weakness
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:16amRiseLiberty
Report Post »Amazing how these hopeless anti-PaulBots just don’t get it. It’s about the message not the massager. You can smear and destroy the Dr. but it late to stop the message. We have already won.
circleDwagons
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:39amwhat’s amazing is how anti- Liberty people don’t listen to what Paul actually says. according to santorum we have to give money to pakistan because they have nukes. and according to gingrich we gave pakistan billions and they lie to us. yup Paul is a nut
Report Post »blaze7c
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:42amYa know whats amazing to me? Maybe respecting a country’s own borders, which none of the other candidates do. They don’t even respect our own borders. By spreading our military around, our actual homeland is weaker. It really suprises me scared some of you people are of absolutely everything.
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:46am@Recovering neocon: Exactly right, the genie is out of the bottle now. The message is out there and freedom is popular. This movement will only grow going forward. Think back 15 years. Very little internet, all of our information was filtered through the liberal media and to a much lesser degree talk radio.
Fast forward to today. Information is everywhere. The message and explanation of liberty can get out unfettered over the internet. Should be no surprise then that the big government types want to seize control of the inernet with things like SOPA and net neutrality. They may have been able to slow down the Reagan Revolution because there was only so much communicating Ronald Reagan could do with the American people. But this revolution won’t slow down as long as we have a free internet. What a gift from God the internet is. It may very well be the invention that saves our Republic and keeps us free.
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:48amFace it the establisment needs Ron Paul’s supporters. Too many of them are dissatisfied Republicans that if they stay home, Obama wins. I can tell you guys, all of this RP bashing is going to hand the election to Obama.
His support is very broad…they are Libertarians that like his freedom messages, they are Republicans that like his small gov. message and low taxes, they are also liberals that like his foreign policy, and finally a lot of people like him because he is a “non political” type of politician that basically stands on principle.
Romney will not win if Ron Pauls supporters are out cast and stay home.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:50amApparently comprehension skills on the Blaze is very low.
The proposed assumption was:
“You believe international Law should’ve constrained us from tracking down and killing the man responsible for the most brazen attack on the US since Pearl Harbor?”
Paul responded: “Obviously no, I did not say that.”
IT LOOKS LIKE THE BLAZE LIED, or is taking Paul OUT OF CONTEXT AGAIN.
Paul wrote a constitutional Letter of Marque and Reprisal, TO GO AFTER AND CATCH, OR KILL, BIN LADEN AND ASSOCIATED AL QAEDA MEMBERS. HE VOTED TO GO INTO AFGHANISTAN TO TRACK DOWN BIN LADEN AND ASSOCIATED AL QAEDA MEMBERS. I’m pretty dang sure any of these measures would BE IMPOSSIBLE IF WE DID NOT USE INTERNATIONAL LAW.
MY FREAKING GOODNESS. HAS THE BLAZE NO SHAME?
Bret Baier here lumped to separate topics INTO ONE. There’s the one that dealt with the specific operation that took out Bin Laden in Pakistan, and then there is the one, that proposed whether or not we should be able to go after Bin Laden. They did this kind of nonsense THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEBATE! They even tried SETUP questions on Gingrich, and other candidates. Most of these questions were made to be tricky. For example, the Defense spending question. The host ignorantly suggested Paul would close down bases here at home. Paul quickly corrected him. FOX NEWS IS PART OF THE MSM PEOPLE. THEY HAVE AN AGENDA JUST LIKE THE REST.
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:54amFox news is allready loosing viewers because of the RP bashing and unfair treatment. Also Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity’s ratings have already dropped precipitously because of the RP bashing. About 1/3 have dropped for Rush and 1/4 dropped for Sean. They need to embrace his supporters as real people or they will faction the Right wing into two parties and hand Obama the next election.
Report Post »TJeff1
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:01amDCJONES,
You speak the truth. I know a lot of Ron Paul supporters that used to be Rebublican Establiment supporters. They are sooooo turned off by Fox news and these people that bash him. I think if this continues a lot of good republican people will stay home from the elections. Its such a shame there is so much hate for somebody that is just standing up for Constitutional issues?
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Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:01am@RiseLiberty
Imagine that…a GlennBot telling others they refuse to see reality.
Since you obviously have no use for the founders wisdom and international law, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the provision in the Constitution called the Letters of Marque and Reprisal. Here’s a link for your enlightenment…
http://www.progress.org/fold232.htm
Now perhaps you will tell us all just what it feels like to find yourself more closely aligned with Obama, the Democratic party, and the CFR in regards to foreign policy, than Jefferson, Washington, and Adams?
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
Now speaking of being “safe”…when you finally came to the realization that you had been flat out lied to regarding the non-existent nukes Iraq was working on…how did you feel?
Now…you trust these same “expert” liars again eh?
Gee…and you tell others to “get a clue”.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:03amIf you belive that the mighty US could not get at Bin until 11 years later…I have a bridge for sale. Bin was a rogue sppok. He was the fall guy for the biggest hoax orchestrated by nwo in order to break the back of the US economy. It worked.
US foreign is so foul. Ron Paul is right. We should not be the police of the world. Meddling in other countries internal affairs is a huge tax burden on We the People. Causing us to be broke and our American dream unattainable. The US was powerful when she was an isolationist.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:14amGlenn Beck and Beckbots are Holy rolling hypocrites who claim to be libertarian but support Santorum? Really. They claim they love the constitution but throw it in the trash when concerning foreign policy. They are doomsday wannabe holy warriors who want to bring about armageddon. pass the loot
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:15amThe Blaze reporting is dishonest and biased. Beck disagrees or does not understand Ron Paul’s and the founding fathers’ anti military adventurism beliefs and therefore uses the Blaze as a media to discredit Ron Paul. If the Blaze were non biased, there would be negative Rick Santorum stories. Not only could Santorum’s poor voting record be scrutinized but his associations as well? Where is the story of the Santorum/Sandusky relationship? Where is the Santorum/Knights of Malta story? “Santorum and his wife were invested as Knight and Dame of Magistral Grace of the Knights of Malta in a ceremony at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, New York.” Where is the story of the Knights of Malta oath Santorum took? “I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince, or State, named Protestant or Liberals, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates, or officers.” Christians should read this oath. You will be appalled. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_malta02.htm
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:16am@TJeff1
You are so right.
The establishment Republicans have no idea what they are in for by mocking the very people they expect to pull the lever for them.
Election after election they offer up progressive candidates draped in sheeps clothing, who’s record is at odds with what they run on, and there are many like myself who are bound and determined to teach them a lesson.
I will never vote for a candidate who openly stands for blatantly unconstitutional laws such as the NDAA, and who refuses to condemn the immoral actions foisted upon us by the TSA.
If any other candidate other than Dr. Paul wins the nomination, I and many many others like myself will send them a strong and certain message…we will no longer fall for a false choice.
When given the choice between Mao and Mussolini…the only moral answer is none of the above.
Hey nnelG…do you hear us yet?
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:16amAll of us that want liberty back will not vote for your progressive. All of you progressives and brainwashed people will not sway us. We will either write Pauls name in, vote for Johnson or maybe Paul will run third party. That is that. You will not get our support for a progressive ever. period, end of story, maybe the end of the U.S.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:18amAs long as we were given Pakastan BILLIONS in forieign aid to look for Bin Laden, they were never going to “FIND” him and had evry reason to make sure we didn’t either.
Ron Paul opposes foreign aid. Things would have been different if we hadn’t motivated them to hide him.
Report Post »samuelwcordrey
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:27amSo Given the choice between Mao and Mussilinni you pick Obama.
Report Post »Donald Dunnam
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:35amAmazing how all these Paul haters can’t read or pay attention.
[Mr. Paul‘s truthfulness is being questioned after he told Fox News’ Brett Baier that he never said that he would not have given the order to go into Pakistan and kill Osama bin Laden:]
And he didn’t say that. He Said the following.
[Not the way it took place, no.]
So he didn’t say what is claimed he said not in the way it was done. Learn to read.
Also note that we can‘t really be sure what happened since we have only Obama’s word they got him.
Report Post »Ron Paul is the only candidate who gives more than lip service to the Constitution. To the war mongers out there go read Washington’s farewell address of 1796 and learn something.
theaveng
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:40amOne way to handle it s to listen to the Bible — peacefully. Rather than go-in and bomb and kill 200,000 people (plus countless maimed persons with missing arms/legs). Killing is not moral.
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CBS: Ron Paul more likely to defeat Obama, then Romney, because Paul has the support of blacks and young people. If election were held today:
Paul:47%. Obama: 45%. Romney: 44%
Don’t Listen to War Propaganda (Iraq & Iran War Lies)
Report Post »3-MINUTE
VIDEO –
http://youtu.be/8KiRAMvAlpQ
“Observe good faith and justice toward all….. Permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations [Iran], and passionate attachments for others [Israel], should be excluded. Cultivate peace and harmony with all.” – George Washington
ConservativeCharlie
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:43amIts really sad, I went from being one of Glenn Becks Biggest Fans, to hardly being able to listen at this point. Already canceled my GBTV also. All because of the Inconsistency on Ron Paul. Beck speaks of founders, and liberty, and a government out of control and then he bashes the one man that is our best hope at restoring all of that. Heck I hardly even come to the Blaze any more. http://www.NoBarry.com
Report Post »samuelwcordrey
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:45amAmen.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:46am“Jesus saw Dr. Paul coming to him, and said of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!”
Unfortunately America has become so spiritually blinded that we neither perceive, care, or strive for such a characteristic in a leader. No we are devolving at such an alarming pace that I doubt seriously we will even retain a shred of our Liberty or Freedom within 20 years from now.
The “hit job” which FOX pulled on Dr. Paul last night although thoroughly expected is really beyond even the boundaries of what even an extremely cynical individual as I could have imagined. I could have not have conjured a scheme any better than the one FOX crafted in order to wipe Dr. Paul off the map in the SC and FL primaries if someone would have offered me a million dollars.
First of all in the first 45 minutes of the debate they excluded with the exception of one 15 second yes or no question which Dr. Paul took and handled quiet well. The next question came in a discussion about the economy on how Dr. Paul’s plan for the DOD would destroy economy of SC’s military industry. Once again Dr. Paul handled this question appropriately and knocked it out of the park imo.
Next comes the broad sided race baiting attack where one is really in a no win situation especially in the deep South and particularly with the lead in “since there has been reports of RACISM in your newsletters, Dr. Paul do you think the criminal justice…”.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:48amAdmittedly I have my prejudices; however, that does not preclude me from approaching a topic as complicated and important as the “War on Drugs” in a non biased logical manner. Obviously those in that audience are not ready for that discussion. I bet FOX didn’t even consider that when they chose to question Dr. Paul about it… What do you think? If the first two questions weren’t pathetic enough then that one was certainly below the belt!
And for the Finally! In conclusion! “Let’s turn to Ron Paul!” lol That should be a warning in of itself when they want to start with Ron Paul but let’s get it on.. Dr. Paul you are on record saying that you disagreed with the “decision” in which the Navy Seals took out the most wanted terrorist in American history who perpetrated the most deadly attacks on the home front since Pearl Harbor.. yada yada yada.. Oh my god if anyone was ever set up for a fall, this was it. He would have stood a better chance in explaining why he had a secret desire to French kiss Adolf Hitler to a room full of Jewish people. I have to hand it to you FOX, I can hardly think of a more nefarious manner in order to smear and create contempt for Dr. Paul and his supporters than the manner which you chose. You get an A+ FOX.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:50amI agree Conservative Charlie.
I used to be a Beckbot. I have little to any respect for Beck these days.
He is either a Ignorant Neocon, or has been “bought” by the global elite to become one of their Main Stream Media Outlets.
“The Half-Truths LIE here”
Freakin Partial Biased crap !!!!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:50amIndeed you provided the Wolves red meat in a manner that even impressed me and surpassed even my cynical views of your perceived bias. I’ve watch you marginalize and demonize Dr. Paul for months now and I have to ask why are you so afraid of Dr. Paul? Do you think that he’d actually once again start abiding by the US Constitution? Is that the Fear you have FOX and you talk radio shills? Are you afraid that he oversee a thorough audit of the Fed? Afraid that he would apply a little common sense to our Foreign affairs policy.. Afraid that he may begin cutting spending in DC? Why do you hate my preferred candidate to such a degree and thereby hate me? Do you think that we will all sit down shut up and head to the back of the bus now FOX and our talk radio shills? Is that what we are supposed to do?
While your initial efforts to deceive discredit and marginalize this movement may have worked, you have actually done it an even bigger favor by exposing yourselves for the diabolical nefarious and despicable actors that are FOX News! Again, you may have won this battle but I think you just lost the War. There’s no way in hell that the Republican nominee will ever get my vote now unless Rand Paul is picked as VP. How do you like those apples Mr. Murdoch? Furthermore, while the money may be good, I think it’s becoming increasingly apparent that a significant portion of the population won’t be bought off and will not support your choice of the Big-gov’t, Fed supporting,
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:05pmI know I used to listen to all of these guys. Beck gave way now to Peter Schiff, much better commentary BTW. No more Rush; and Hannity very rarely. Their washed up commentary is so 4 years ago. I am surprised at the vitriol toward Ron Paul. I can understand that they don’t agree with him. But they have to aggree with his Fiscal message and monetary policy message. But it gets no play. None. Fox news is almost done too in my house.
Report Post »Thecoolhandluke
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:07pm“Get a clue groupies… Your man never had the stomach for this war, and never will.”
An astute observation Capt. Obvious, thanks for informing me. I would have never known otherwise, despite the fact that Ron Paul has clearly stated he is against needless wars and nation building.
In all seriousness, that is why many of us like Paul. I haven’t got the stomach for all our wars and foreign meddling either. Speaking as the son of a retired US Navy Captain and brother of an active duty Lieutenant, neither has much of our military. And it‘s a safe bet that many of our founders wouldn’t have had the stomach for it. Washington immediately comes to mind–his Farewell Address from 1796 makes his foreign policy quite clear and I believe he would be appalled at the mess we’ve made for ourselves.
As to the Bin Laden mission specifically: we supposedly have a friendly relationship with Pakistan and yet we violated their sovereignty by conducting that raid without their knowledge. Paul made it clear in the debate that as a last resort we had the authority to go after him in that way. His point is that there were much better ways to go about getting Bin Laden that should’ve been our first choice. How, pray tell, do you know that Pakistan would never have helped us? That is a mighty big assumption to make without evidence. Do you really think that the whole Pakistani govt. and military was in on the plot to hide Bin Laden? If that was the case, why would we be
Report Post »Thecoolhandluke
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:09pmrelationship with Pakistan at all? Under Paul, we would have exhausted all cooperative options with Pakistan before violating their sovereignty, as friendly nations are supposed to do.
Report Post »CulpepperJosh1638
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:20pmfunny how you rino piggies can’t see the huge gaping flaws Mitt Romney has. love how you can support a man who is FUNDED by the same big lobbyists that got Obama elected. You’re such an idiot. and you deserve to be given a ****** country for being so into killing people. I guess if you don‘t have to watch it you don’t care. But those women and children with missing limbs and such have far surpassed the 3k we lost on 9/11. eff you.
Report Post »TJeff1
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:20pmTechengineer11,
Yes I agree. A tide is turning. This is not a typical election. You have the rise of a movement, a liberty movement. We have been duped too many times to fall for it again and run back to the establisment GOP. The GOP can either accept it (and absorb the key principles of RP viewers) or be a loser party in the near future.
It appears that all the name calling and sidelining by FOX and talk radio people has already turned their back on his viewers.
They think that RP supporters will just say “oh ok RP lost” you sidelined him and called him a “freak” and “crazy” so now we will get in line and vote for Romney and keep watching FOX and listening to shrills like BECK and Hannity. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN. I have been a GOP all my life and it is such a shame to see the end of it now because they cant accept RP’s constitutional views.
Report Post »JediKnight
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:23pm@Colt: Brett Baier was quoting Ron Paul from the radio show where he said we should not have gone in and killed bin Laden. Yes, that’s a violation of international law, so Ron Paul does in fact believe that international law trumps our own law in that case.
No one’s making stuff up. No one is taking him out of context. Ron Paul said it himself and was asked the same question 3 times on the radio show and gave the same answer 3 times.
The part where Baier failed was in not acting like Chris Wallace and interrupting Paul when he said he never said that. I would’ve stopped him mid answer and read the quote or played the audio and then let him try to defend it.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:30pmBeck and his co hosts are steady becoming Mitt Romney shills.
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:33pmWell said TJeff1. I am registered Republican but I cannot in good conscience continue as a member of what has become a war mongering party. Also, note to FOX. I am not a sheep!
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colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:37pm@JediKnight Bret Baier lumped two thing into one.
Ron Paul said we should not have gone in to kill Bin Laden IN THAT MANNER.
THEN, Bret Baier asked something different: “You believe international Law should’ve constrained us from tracking down and killing the man responsible for the most brazen attack on the US since Pearl Harbor?”
Was that a general question, or was Bret talking about the Pakistan incident?
They made the question in that manner to purposefully distort his view. Let me ask you, when has Paul ever stated that international law constrains us from from tracking down and killing Bin Laden?
Hell, Paul voted to go into Afghanistan to track down Bin Laden. Paul in fact said that WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED TO PAKISTAN first, and THEN go in and catch or kill Bin Laden.
Once again, the MSM tried to paint Paul as someone who would not go after Bin Laden. Pure BS.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:50pmThe attack on Paul rests in his refusal to kiss the Zionist ring of Israel. All of the other candidates kiss that ring. All get a thrill up their legs at the very mention of Israel.
Report Post »The wise question is why? Why do American politicians feel that they must kiss that ring? Richard Perle said it best when he said that if they do not, their political life is over.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_N._Perle
Wat Tyler
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:53pmLet’s be perfectly clear.
The only reason the Zion-bots (Mark Levin, Mark Steyn, Andy Levi, Dorothy Rabinowitz, Roger Simon, and many , many others who have a lock hold on Wall Street and this nation) are launching this relentless smear against Ron Paul is because he‘s the only one who dares stand up for America and tells them that he’s not sending any more kids to die for the Zionists and Israel.
To the NWO neo-cons this is blasphemy. They’ve got most of us so blinded and brainwashed, but not all of us.
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:55pm@JediKnight
Report Post »You said “Ron Paul does in fact believe that international law trumps our own law in that case”. That seems to be a great leap in reason. Could you please direct me to the US law that allows military aggression within another sovereign nation that the US does not have a declaration of war against, and does not have the consent of that nation?
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:09pmLibertarians are REAL AMERICAN patriots !!!
Conservatives are Sheeples exactly like Liberals, The only difference is that they don’t like Gays or Abortion and they like to start WARS. Thats the only difference.
Tired of hearing how Libertarians are Pacifists !!!!
Libertarians are the most dangerous of all politically ideologies when threatened.
I guarantee 90% of the 3% are Libertarians.
90% of conservatives don’t have the guts to be a 3% er.
iii
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:13pm*political Ideologies
Report Post »Andrew72
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:25pmIf you have a problem with Ron Paul on his foreign policy you will have problem with these people.
LT Col Tony Shaffer ,commander of Special Mission Task Force against Al-Qaeda.
CIA , Michael Scheuer ,leader of Al-qaeda and Osama Bin Laden task force.
Col. Douglas MacGregor , Tank commander in Iraq and foreign policy expert .
Also more military Vet, me being one of them than all the other Republicans running combined.
All these politicians and MSM know more than the people listed above?
You might want to do some research before you run off at the mouth again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUrX9t9v3rY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDsE0TjEf8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puGKUlwbP2Y&feature=related
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:29pmWell, as much as I hate to say it International Law obviously trumps our Constitution and Law.
Look up International U.C.C. (Uniform Commercial Code)
The ‘United States” (a trademark of the corporation, based in Washington D.C.) went Bankrupt in 1933. (Emergency banking act)
This was a default on the 1913 loan from the FEDERAL RESERVE PRIVATE BANK.
(the federal reserve act of 1913).
In 1933, America’s Land, Government and PEOPLE were pledged as collateral to the FEDERAL RESERVE PRIVATE BANK.
Well, they had to keep track of their new livestock.
Birth Certificates became Law in all states in 1933.
Social Security became Law in all states in 1936.
These are interset bearing bonds (IncomeTax) for the receivers of the bankruptcy.
In 1944 at the Bretton Woods Agreement the Federal reserve signed over the DEED to the United States to the IMF and World bank.
(A corporation est. 1871, after our congress was declared “sine die” or “without day” because our southern representatives did not return to congress)
Our Country is under a International U.C.C lien, held by the United Nations (Go Figure)
Only 2:14 to see the truth !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
Report Post »Tubman2010
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:33pmYou know, I used to try to be more civilized but I’ve just about had it with stupid trolls and neanderthals that think they know it all. They speak as if they know what other people and countries would definately do. What arrogance. As Ron Paul said, we got Khalid by asking Pakistan to hand him over and it worked. Why wouldn’t that have worked with Usama? Because it doesn’t fit your agenda I guess. I’m really sick of hearing phony Christians and neocons crap on our moral duty as a superior nation and disrespect our laws and Intl law. Ron Paul never said “Intl law SHOULD have constrained us from tracking down (Usama)…”, he said we didn’t respect intl law. There is a difference you twit Brett Baier and everyone who is jumping on that bandwagon. Look, I love the USA and I hate the UN but if we’re going to pretend to be part of the Intl community then we should respect the laws if we can. We could have tried to get Bin Laden the legal way. We didn‘t acquire him prior to this for political reasons and if you don’t know that then you are as naive as you accuse Ron Paul of being. Ron Paul is probably more informed than most of you jokers out there that parrot whatever Fox News tells you to think. You are the tools and useful idiots that the liberals are for Obama.Your stupidity will force us to lose our very special opportunity to vote for an honest man for once as the President of the United States. Shame on you, whether you be troll or just plain gullible.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:35pmRomney Pays Less In Tax [Rate] Than His Secretary (15%)
First Buffet, now Mitt Romney. Via Bloomberg:
ROMNEY SAYS HIS EFFECTIVE TAX RATE CLOSER TO 15%
ROMNEY SPEAKS TO REPORTERS IN FLORENCE, SOUTH CAROLINA
ROMNEY SAYS MUCH OF HIS INCOME COMES FROM INVESTMENTS
Next thing you know he too will offer all Republicans a one for one match on all US sovereign debt repayments, and will demand that all millionaires generously hand over their income. As for us, we quietly wonder whether the account clerks at Zurich banks are sweating already?
That’s why Romney wants to wait until after the primary to reveal his income tax records.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/romney-pays-less-taxes-his-secretary
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:41pmFox News panel unanimously agree: GOP can‘t win in 2012 without Ron Paul’s support
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P4TwYmQ1oA
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:45pm\Fox News panel unanimously agree: GOP can‘t win in 2012 without Ron Paul’s support
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P4TwYmQ1oA
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:03pmGoogle the Law of Nations by Vattel. That’s International Law. The founding fathers adhered to it, and referenced it to establish our own Nation.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:17pmGW Bush dropped the ball on Bin Laden. They could have killed of captured him a couple different times. Plus, why didn’t GW drop bombs on Saudi Arabia? 15 of the 16 hijacker/terrorists were Saudi citizens? I guess $10/gal gas wouldn’t sit well with American sheeple trying to get to Walmart to buy Chinese made crap?
Ron Paul is our only hope to avoid WW3 and/or complete economic collapse. The rest are all puppets like Obama.
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:34pmTECHENGINEER,
Thought you might want to check out this link:
Report Post »http://www.revisionisthistory.org/page1/news.html
West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:37pmI called on every Paul supporter to cancel their GBTV. Glenn is a liar. Everything that I believed in the man from his days on Fox is a lie to me now. Fox is just an MSM outlet for liars. I believe that since so many people continue to stay blind and follow these liars, it will be a good thing for this country to go down and begin a period of awakening. Only after they lose everything, will they wake up to the lies and deceipt. Maybe then, after millions have died, will they wake up and start fighting for liberty. I call on all Paul supporters to take an oath to not vote for the progressive if nominated, but to vote for Johnson, or Paul if he runs third party. Let’s start the real revolution.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:02pmNow FOX is saying if Ron Paul runs third party, that Rand Paul’s future in the Republican party would be put in jeopardy.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:14pm@dcjones
The Immaturity Of You RP Supporters Is Palpable. So immature that when disagreed with you threaten, like spoiled children, To NOT Vote. What kind of American Patriotism is that? IT’S NOT!
It’s hard to believe that Ron Paul would encourage his peeps to create such an extreme cult of pseudo-indignation that it would take them to the point of threatening to trample on our Voting Privilige!
Like I have said before, Ron Paul’s supporters speak very loudly of what a poor leader Ron Paul is.
Good leaders inspire their followers to aspire to reach their highest highs. Poor leaders can only inspire their followers to aspire to reach their lowest lows.
All of this to say: You Ron Paul supporters, by your immature behaviors, are only succeeding in high lighting Ron Paul’s lack of leadership abilities. Therefore, You Are Campaigning Against Ron Paul!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:25pm@thegrassroots I challenge you to review the posts here and count how many Paul supporters have provided posts with actual information or constructive criticism, and not remarks to just belittle or ridicule. I think you’ll find that there are way more Paul supporters trying to make educated decisions based on their own assessments and not that of the MSM or radio talking heads.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:30pmGrassroots, you are wrong in your assessment. Paul has loyal followers that are not blind to the lies and minipulation of the elitist groups. The people are shown to follow blindly by being for one candidate one day and then they hear something from the establishment and they quickly move to the next candidate. Then something else is said and they move back or to another. Blindness. Listening to the liars. Paul leads better as when he gets a supporter they stay with him. A leader is someone who can get people behind him to stay. You, sir, are following the elite. I mean Romney is funded by the same that funds Obama. How blind can people be? I will not be blind. If you people want to continue down the same path then so be it.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:33pmWas Jesus booed in the SC debate? yep
Debate Reaction On The Robert Scott Bell Show 1/17/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=zk8p9zBoYmY#t=390s
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:34pmHEY! Paul supporters on THE BLAZE. You have turned me off of Ron Paul forever! Congratulations! I can not stand with such divisive, deaf “believers” who dare to be threatening in their snooty belief that only their candidate knows what’s best for us all. Sounds familiar!!!!!!
If the primaries go your way, you will get the mirror image of yourselves– a divisive, deaf, threatening, snooty President who knows what’s best for us all– and it WON’T be Paul.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:45pmPaul was booed by Neocons in the audience for trying to be Christian, Romney was booed for saying the NDAA is a good law. “Trust me…” he say’s. Trust Goldman Sachs, trust Suisse Credit Group, (“In 2009, Credit Suisse settled on charges that it violated sanctions regulating financial transactions with IRAN!! The charges included “stripping”, the practice of removing the identity and origin of funds used in transactions. Credit Suisse employees stripped the identities of Iranian banks enabling funds to be transferred to the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and the Aerospace Industries Organization, entities respectively involved in the production of nuclear weapons and long range missiles!!”) just two companies that back Romney and Obama.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:48pmGetlife, you were never for him in the first place, so don’t go away mad, just go away.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:50pmI’m a Ron Paul supporter that is quite awake, thank you.
CNN Poll: Obama tied with Romney & Paul in November showdowns 01/16/2012
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/16/cnn-poll-obama-tied-with-romney-paul-in-november-showdowns/
Poll: Only candidates Romney, Paul Tie Obama January 9, 2012 | 7:02 p.m.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/poll-romney-paul-tie-obama-20120109
CNN Which Republican candidate is most electable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=U7F3yt2Ot4U
Fox News panel unanimously agree: GOP can‘t win in 2012 without Ron Paul’s support
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P4TwYmQ1oA
Hoseycanyousee
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:59pmHe only said that he would not have done it in the manner that obama had done it or the time table he did it. We had knows where he is for years. Why did they kill him when they did?
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:02pmGETLIFE, you don’t GET IT. Ron Paul supporters are for liberty, prosperity, peace, and the rule of the Constitution. Ron Paul is the only candidate that also stands for these values. We really do not have any other choice.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:03pm@GETLIFE
Yea…just imagine the nerve of the people who demand that the POTUS actually defends and protects the constitution!
Oh, and your posts are among the most obnoxious on this site, so pot…meet kettle.
You go ahead and vote for someone who looks the other way or actually defends unconstitutional laws such as the NDAA that allows for your arrest with no warrant, no charges, no trial, and no release date…and see where that gets you…or your children in the future.
Remember these words…when you go to a sporting event for the simple right to watch your kids play a game…and the TSA pulls you out of line and strip searches you and your spouse with ZERO probable cause…you voted for this to happen.
You see, unlike yourself there are many of us who when given the choice between Mao and Mussolini…we will do the moral thing and vote for none of the above…while you foolishly vote for your own destruction.
When all is said and done…we will be able to sleep and night knowing we did our best to fight the NWO…and you will finally wake up to the fact that you voted for the likes of old Adolph.
Some people simply never learn anything from history…except for the hard way…and you are a classic example.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:22pmKnow what Nazi soldiers had on the face of their belt buckles?
“God is with us”
I kid you not.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/1069962/
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:33pmRule of law is more important than revenge.
Report Post »kkartz
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:40pmMasters11111: A fool mistakes kindness for weakness!! Are you kidding?? A fool would not have the guts to kill America’s enemy! A fool would blame the WTC attacks on America! A fool would imply that the nation’s police officers make arrests based on skin color and NOT based on criminal activity!! A fool would suggest that the nation’s courts are also guilty of the above said bias!! A fool cannot see the danger in having Iran possess a nuclear bomb!! A fool would espouse isolationism!! A fool cannot see how much greatness America has done throughout the world in ousting despots and saving lives!! A fool would bury his nation’s head in the sand!! A fool would defund our military, make it smaller thereby weakening America’s defense!! Are you kidding???
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:54pm@colt1860 & westcoastpatriot
I have read until my eyes hurt; to the point of not being able to read any more Ron Paul canned rhetoric.
What we have here, identifying themselves as Ron Paul supporters, is a cult of spoiled children engaged in a tantrum throwing frenzy.
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:59pmTHEGRASSROOTS, I suppose you would describe Patrick Henry as a “spoiled child engaged in a tantrum throwing frenzy” when he said “Give me Liberty, or give me Death!”
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:06pmIf you would have signed the NDAA in any variation, you are not a conservative. If you support a candidate that would have signed the NDAA, guess what, YOU ARE NOT A CONSERVATIVE.
Report Post »JohnTwoFeathers
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:10pmI think Paul just misspoke. Hay, everyone else does. Don’t you get a mulligan in this debate?
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:11pm@vindexdogood
You, vindex___, Are No Patick Henry! : )
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:19pmjonnydoe: Now that Football season is winding down I have a lot of reading to get caught up on… Some of that looks interesting but I probably have a dozen books which I’ve ordered and not read… lol Hate that.. I’m worse than a woman in a shoe dept.
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:27pmTHEGRASSROOTS, you are avoiding the question. You either do not understand the passion for liberty or choose to minimize it. Cavalier remarks discredit you in the debate.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:39pmWEST COAST PATRIOT,
Report Post »Actually, I am as yet undecided–except for NOT voting for Ron Paul. I will not vote for someone whose supporters elevate him to “our only savior” godlike status. Had enough of that with our current President. Also, he really needs to read the Little Green Book.
jb.kibs
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:40pmyes. weak… LOL… good luck.
you are either 4Liberty or you are 4Slavery, make your choice.
Saying you are not for that operation is not saying you are not for the end result…
Report Post »i’m all for raising the avg IQ, but i’m not for killing everyone below 100 to do it… do you see? or not?
probably not… well. good luck, you will need it friend, hell is eternal.
jb.kibs
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:52pmhe also said, in that same segment, why didn’t we capture him like we have done with all other dictators and enemies of the nation? now we can’t find out any more information, etc… we hung sadam and the trial provided more evidence… why couldn’t we have done that with bin laden? that was his point…we did it justly every other time, now all of a sudden we don’t even care about our own rules or laws, like a dictatorship…
becareful what you are supporting… it may bite you in the butt someday… if our govenment every became tyrannical, which it never, ever would ever do, ever. and never has before. no governments ever corrupt. but.. IF it did, let’s just say, what if you wanted to fight back to defend the constitution and Liberty? you will be deemed a terrorist and enemy, your citizenship revoked and detained indefinately or just killed becuase it’s widely acceptable. i pray for your souls, i know you know not what you do. for, you are willing to trade freedom for security.
Report Post »good luck,
4God and 4Liberty.
Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:57pm@GETLIFE
So…you have determined you will only vote for a candidate who backs the NDAA that allows Obama to send the military to arrest you with no charges, no witnesses, no trial, and no release date then…correct?
You will only back a candidate who refuses to condemn the immoral and unconstitutional actions foisted on our people by the TSA as well.
Like I told you…when you find yourself being pulled out of line and strip searched by the DHS for the simple right to go to a sporting event to watch your children play a game…remember…you voted for it.
Enjoy the chains you have willingly placed around your neck…as well as the necks of our children….and their children’s children.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:01pmVINDEX.DOGGOOD, FREEDOMLUVER,
Report Post »Just more and more convinced.
The “if you don’t agree, you just don’t understand” argument has also been used extensively by our current guy in power….
st3v300
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:25pmThe people who attack those of us who believe in Ron Paul will always side with the weak faction that would prefer to elect someone that wont step on anyone’s toes, loves the UN, and feels we need to be the policemen of the world. Us “Paulbots” want a CONSTITUTIONAL UNITED STATES….. Romney Santorum, and Gingrich are far from Dr. Pauls belief in limited Government.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:29pm@vindex___
Very Simply, vindex, I recognized your Typical and Tedious and Tiresome Ron-Paul-Canned-Rhetoric and REFUSED to be drawn in. Same Ol’ – Tiresome – Same Ol‘ and I’ve heard MORE than enough.
Thanks Anyway! : )
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:42pmGetlife, What you say is ridiculous. Nobody thinks Paul is Godlike. Even Paul has said that he is imperfect, and if anyone thinks he isn’t, they will be sorely disappointed. If you could put forth a candidate that is like Paul in his beliefs on the economy, which is the biggest National Security risk we have right now, I would seriously look at him or her. There is nobody, and if you think that voting in candidates that have stripped liberties from the people in the past is the right way for America, then you are part of the problem. I see more liberties being stripped in the future until it is impossible to get them back. You may want the socialistic type lifestyle they have planned, but I do not. All of you speak a good game of, we will bring out our guns, as your mindset is Neocon, war is good. I hope you are going to enjoy the war that will be on our soil soon. The true Tea Party understands that when the economy crashes, our liberties will be stripped in an instant. Are you ready to pull your guns out and fight? Get ready. And those of you that think this cannot happen because we are the USA, are dead wrong. Who funds the candidates, Obama included? Look it up. Look at all the candidates scorecard from Gun Owners of America.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:39pm“Back in May of 2011, and featured here on The Blaze, Ron Paul said three times in a two minute discussion of the topic, that as President of the United States, he would not have ordered bin Laden killed in the manner that President Obama did.”
Wait a minute, now! Which is it?
Are you accusing Ron Paul of saying that he would not have held bin Laden accountable, or just not held him accountable IN THE MANNER THAT OBAMA DID?
THIS is how Ron Paul would have handled 9/11.
See here.
Ron Paul on “Letters of Marque and Reprisal”
http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSP9NteApqI
And in case you missed it, THIS is how Ron Paul would have avoided 9/11 in the first place.
See here.
Ron Paul Predicted 9/11 a Decade Ago!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hJTisovvjc
kryptonite
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:08pmWhat?! Perfect Paul never lies. He’s never wrong. Cancel GBTV. Why don’t you leave the Blaze as well? If you had any principles, you would stop blogging here (how dare Glenn not kiss Perfect Paul’s butt!). But you won’t, and here’s why. Like your cult leader, you are USERS. You want a place where you can regurgitate Ron Paul’s twenty-years of non-feasible plans over and over and over again. And Glenn, the “liar,” provides it for you.
No one here has been able to answer my question: How exactly will Paul repeal the 16th Amendment? I ask a specific question, to prove to you the lunacy of your candidate. Unless he ruled by executive order a la Obama (which I wouldn’t put past him), or started a civil war against the far left, it can’t be done. If Paul became president, all he would accomplish was to unleash moral anarchy across the nation and the takeover of the ME by Iran, which you would feel at the pump. If that didn’t give him a heart attack — the ensuing Islamist attack on our soil would.
You people are so deluded I’m not even counting on you to help free America in its moment of greatest need.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:30pmKrypto, This is where the problem lies. You have been brainwashed into thinking that the Middle East will be able to do something that Russia and China cannot, invade our country with military force. Crap! You people have been so disillusioned on this lie it amazes me. Tell me, how are they going to invade us? I know that there are some in our midst that want to do a terror attack, but I doubt it is the size of even a small army. If they are here in that respect, I say get our troops here to defend us along with all the militia and all minutemen in the union. That certainly would be Constitutional. If we are to be invaded, and most likely it would be Russia, China or both, it would be after our economy crashes and we are completely vulnerable. Nobody at this point could get close to us with a fleet in order to do damage to us. This is not 1941. Get real man.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:32pmOK, WEST COAST PATRIOT, I’ll leave off the “godlike.“ Although I wrote it with a little ”g” and meant it in the sense of a Greek god– like the god of the Sun, or the god of the Constitution. Look, Ron Paul is fine. Really, I agree with most of what he says. I have lived in socialist countries and so understand the Constitution more than you may imagine.. If you are to defend a candidate for Commander in Chief, you simply must read the Little Green Book. If you do so, it will become glaringly apparent that Ron Paul has either never done so, or he doesn’t respect what it implies. That is a no go for me.
Paul is quite smart to focus his campaign on a single ideal– the Constitution. A Constitution Revolution… kind of like the Hope and Change Revolution. Problem is, the revolution is centered around one “our only choice” savior-type candidate. Count me out.
Report Post »The Constitution is making a comeback, with or without Ron Paul.
GETLIFE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:42pmKRYPTONITE,
Report Post »Well put.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:56pmGetlife, yes the Little Green Book. Oh my God I am scared of the Little Green Book. Like I said in my post above. How are they going to invade us unless our economy crashes and theirs does not? I hope we are not too late to turn this around. Paul’s Ideas are sound according to what is said in the Little Green Book. If they are among us, we need to be strong here, not there. The only way they could defeat us in a war, would be if they somehow gained access to enough nuclear missles and the means to get them here without our knowledge. Do you think for one instance, that Paul would not take that challenge head on if they, say, get ahold of Pakistans missles? How quickly do you think Congress would give a declaration of war? I think immediately. He would then send our Navy in to dessimate them. If there was no time for Congress, he would go in immediately and end it. You guys just do not understand his Natl. Defense policy. The Constitution would not allow us to sit and wait for an imminent threat of a nuclear attack. This is why just believing, what the powers to be say, is dangerous. The rest of the candidates will take us on like always and we will be weaker because of it. Not saying they would sit by, but will continue to spend until we are completely vulnerable.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:01pm@JediKnight,
“Brett Baier was quoting Ron Paul from the radio show where he said we should not have gone in and killed bin Laden. Yes, that’s a violation of international law, so Ron Paul does in fact believe that international law trumps our own law in that case.”
Ron Paul’s use of the term “international law”, here, is both unfortunate and imprecise. He believes that all nations have sovereignty, and that each nation should respect each others’ sovereignty. That’s what he meant by “international law”.
It to this view of mutual respect for national sovereignty that our Founders referred when using the term “laws of nations”.
See here.
Glenn Beck, Ron Paul, George Soros – Global New Deal (NWO ECONOMICS series)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrWmMTMwv8
And here.
Federalist Papers #3
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa03.htm
“It is of high importance to the peace of America that she observe the laws of nations towards all these powers …”
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:51pm@kryptonite,
“No one here has been able to answer my question: How exactly will Paul repeal the 16th Amendment? I ask a specific question, to prove to you the lunacy of your candidate.”
Some believe that the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified; In which case, individuals should simply ignore it and the states should protect their residents from federal tyranny.
But I believe Ron Paul would seek to have it repealed according to the method prescribed by our Constitution. And if Ron Paul were elected, it would already mean that the American people were closer to being ready to repeal the 16th Amendment than we had ever been.
Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:32pmIts a good thing a terrorist wasn’t hiding in America from Russia. Imagine a Russian Spetnatz squad fly into the USA from Canada or Mexico to take the terrorists out. All without even telling us. Yea… we would be soooo chipper bout that.
Report Post »bates8963
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:51pmHey Paulbots….. to me, you are just one step above the OWS meatheads….. You salivate at the idea of free and legal drugs…and some foreign concept of liberty….. you wouldn’t know liberty if it hit you in the head with a baseball bat… beyond this you are completely clueless and will be Obama voters this fall… you fool no one but yourselves. Go away and live with your rat-infested OWS brothers and sisters. I am sure you won’t mind taking liberty from the 50% who actually pay taxes. Losers!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:18pm@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
You are correct about the 16th amendment
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Corp. USA
Under The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 a private corporation named, “The District of Columbia”, was formed. It trademarked the names “THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT”, “United States”, “U.S.”, “U.S.A.”, “USA”, and “America”. It should be noted that this corporation was not simply a reformation of the municipality as it’s Organic Act was chartered in 1808. Without amending that municipality’s charter, this 1871 Act marked the creation of a new private corporation known as, “The District of Columbia” (hereinafter “Corp. U.S.”) owned and operated by the actual government for the purpose of carrying out the business needs of the government under martial law. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of Washington, District of Columbia. In said, Act Corp. U.S. adopted their own constitution the (United States Constitution), which was identical to the national Constitution (Constitution of the United States of America) except that it was missing the national Constitution’s 13th Article of Amendment and the national Constitution’s 14th, 15th and 16th Articles of Amendment are respectively numbered 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments in their constitution.
Con’t
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:20pm*Con’t
Vacating the seats of Government
Under all of the media coverage of the Federal Reserve Bank Act, Corp. U.S. passes and adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th Amendment. Remember, this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution, which already had its own 16th Article of Amendment as of 1870. The Supreme Court ruled that Corp. U.S’. 16th Amendment did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations. We agree, considering that they were obviously created only under the authority of Corp. U.S. Two months later Corp. U.S’. Congress entered their 17th Amendment as ratified. Again in the corporate ratification pattern of the Corp. U.S. 16th amendment was followed with actual State ratification. This amendment is not even constitutional; the Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected. For our national Congress to pass such an Amendment they would first have to Amend the Constitution to allow their discussion of the matter.
http://www.teamlaw.net/history.htm
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:36pm@bates8963 No drugs here. I’ve never even drank beer. I’ve been registered Republican all my life. I’ve voted for TEA party candidates in the primaries, and for the nominee in the general. I’m a proud American, and Conservative. I support the message of Constitutional principles, limited Government, private property, free markets, gun rights, individual responsibility, personal liberties, unalienable rights, secure borders, strong national defense, no nation building, end of welfare, end of birthright citizenship, appointment of Conservative judges, pro-life bills, right to work, drilling here, sound currency, stable economy, out of the UN, end of the EPA, end of the DoE, nor more 4 billion dollar embassies in the Middle East, respect of privacy, dismantling of the TSA, arming pilots, prosecuting Holder for the ATF scandal, keep all my money that I earn, state rights, lower taxes, no new taxes, balanced budget, and no more corporate bailouts.
Do you know what a Patriot is?
Patriot [L. patria, one's native country, form pater, father.] noun 1. a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion. 2. a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government. 3. a person who loves his country, and zealously supports and defends it and its interests. 4. devoted to the welfare of one’s country.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:40pmNotice the glaring difference between my previous post and the post of BATES8963
It is from a uneducated loser who gets his information from Fox news and Hannity.
He can’t bring any substantial facts to the table. He can only resort to
Report Post »odious, arcane rhetoric.
He promulgates his nescience ad nauseam, and lacks any political knowledge or ratiocination, yet calls people like myself, a RON PAUL endorser, a MEATHEAD.
lol.
Who is the real loser?
PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:25amI’ll write in Ron Paul. The establishment picked Romney from the beginning. None of these same as usual candidates are going to get my vote. I am disappointed in the Blaze. The writers on these articles have no credibility. They are nobodies. I am a Journalist in NY. I know for a fact these people who write these articles are shams. You can’t just fly a drone & kill an American Citizen because you “think” He’s Al Qaeda. All Americans deserve equal access to justice. Soon they will call you a terrorist because your against the Government & it’s wild spending.
“Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!” —– Patrick Henry
Report Post »TeaParty_RonPaul_R3VOLUTION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:59amIt is important to listen carefully to what was said. The neo-con asks the good doctor if he was against TRACKING and KILLING due to international law. I think Ron Paul was talking about the fact that we went into another country without their permission, and enterting their country without their permission goes against international law, and not the killing or tracking of bin laden per se.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:14amWe would love for Chinese troops to enter US territory to assassinate any terrorist they want. Yep, they can bring their special forces and helicopters right on over. No need to check in, or ask for permission. There will be no problemo my good amigos. Heck, we let the drug cartels come here illegally, so let’s not make a big deal when some Chinese troops decide to catch and kill any of their enemies within our own lands, sidestepping our Laws. Yep. Hey Chinese Government, just come on over whenever you want. No Rule of Law or International Law to respect here. Make yourselves at home.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:11am“The Constitution would not allow us to sit and wait for an imminent threat of a nuclear attack.”
Report Post »— WEST COAST PATRIOT
My thoughts exactly.
And you really should read that green book.
RepubliCorp
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:44amBots are nothing more than disgruntle Neo-Libs pretending to be conservatives. Touting a 30yr hack with a crappy record. Paul is a good reason for term limits.
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Todd P
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 6:51amPaul would have invited Pakistan to arrest him, and turn him over to the USA for a civilian trial. He probably would have acted surprised when they laughed at us too. The Paulbots just want legal drugs. It has nothing to do with love for the Constitution or anything else. They’re on drugs and want them legal. RP is a nutty little man who will soon fade into history along with Ross Perot. A year from now he will just be an annoying memory.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:29amPatriots please do not suffer fools!!! Sometimes you just have to understand that people such as getalife, kryptonite, and republicorp have greater loyalties than to the US Constitution. Sometimes they give the impression that they may be on your side but in actuality they were born back-stabbers and no matter how hard they try to resist the urge they can not do otherwise.
The movement back towards the Constitution continues to grow. The Neo-Con anti American war mongering movement is becoming as hated as Eboli!
Report Post »C-Delta Conductor
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:59pmRon Paul voted for the war in Afghanistan, specifically to get Bin Laden. His only concern is that we should have at least attempted to go through channels with our “ALLY” Pakistan before violating their border and launching an operation on their soil. So yes, he wouldn’t have pulled the trigger THE WAY OBAMA DID, but that‘s not to say he’s opposed assassinating Bin Laden.
Libertarians speak a different language than most of the public (to their detriment). The least those of you who are avid Paul bashers could do is attempt to understand the philosophy that underlies the Libertarian Social Ethic. Start with Kant (deontological ethics) , Pane (our fundamental rights) and then move on to our Constitution, Rand, Rothbard and more modern writers. We live and breath the utilitarian political system that Rockefeller Republicans have created around us; yet, offering freedom and intellectually honest morals makes Libertarians crazy and dangerous… give me a break.
Report Post »faithkills
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:18pmKilling him was moronic. He had priceless intelligence that could have saved lives. He was killed to give Obama a PR bump.
No, he should not have been shot. He should been taken and interrogated and tried.
Paul is exactly right, he didn’t contradict himself. He voted to go after Bin Laden.
What we got was a corpse and we look like a rogue nation that goes assassinating people on foreign soil, and BRAG about it. Used to be when we gacked someone we at least had the decency to pretend we didn’t.
It’s great it only took Obama to publicly assassinate someone to get the RINO neocons to love him.
If there were no other way to get him than to kill him that would have been different. But we could have taken him. We could have interrogated him. That information almost certainly would have saved American lives. But who cares right?
It’s not about saving American troops. It’s about waving our big American wanker.
Veteran, 101st Air Assault
Report Post »rgraves
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:40pmHe has stated this numerous times that he would have looked at the option of a letter of Marque and Reprisal. So there’s your answer for handling it differently.
Report Post »He stated in his reply that we’re giving billions to Pakistan. Ron Paul would cut off Pakistan from funds. Did you ever think maybe they‘d rethink their stance if they weren’t getting the money any more? He also said in both the radio interview and the debate that what’s wrong with hunting him down, bringing him to trial and hanging him (hey there’s another way…).
He’s got the stomach for war. He and Perry are the only ones to have served in the military. Ron Paul’s stance on war: Declare it (congress), Win it (kick ass), Come home (no nation building. We blow you up and leave). Sounds a lot better to me then all the wars we’ve been in since WWII.
And as far as not being safe in your bed, quite the contrary because there would be another 300,000 troops here on american soil protecting OUR borders. How’s our borders under the past few administrations? Oh yeah, BTW, under Paul, you’d be able to own a gun and protect your property yourself. Were Americans. Every man should be willing to fight and protect this country, not just send our kids off to wars for the elites interests.
Dolphster
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 10:34amin the manner that President Obama did…………did you miss that line, or are you just trying to ignore it, its half of the statement, besides, if you want to go to that level…let put all the flip flops of Santorum, Newt, Romney, and Paul, side by side and lets look at who is the REAL LIARS, You cant find a single person on the planet that you are going to agree with everything they say, but 1 thing is sure, when they have No position on Reigning in th Fed, or they mention it because they see Paul gets support on that…and you know they are going to bomb Iran come hell or high water, (Newt,Romney,Santorum) all want to bomb, its the warmongering Republican platform, and the fact that all 3 of them, look up…support the further erosion of our liberties, they suppport the patriot act, NDAA, etc. WE CANT AFFORD ANOTHER WAR…WE LIKE THE FREEDOM THAT WAS GIVEN IN THE CONSTITUTION..WE DONT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TELLING US WHAT WE CAN AND CANT DO, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DISMANTLE THE CONSTITUTION THROUGH REGULATIONS WAKE UP AMERICA..THE THREE STOOGES ALL SUPPORTED A HEALTHCARE MANDATE..WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR REAL AGENDA RON PAUL IS THE ONLY ONE I REPEAT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS STOOD FOR THE CONSTITUTION LIBERTIES AND PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY IF YOU DO NOT SUPPORT RON PAUL YOU CAN PREPARE THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUTH TO GO TO WAR ENDLESS WAR UNCONSTITUTIONAL WAR AND WITH EVERY WAR COMES LOSS OF LIBERTY THEY NEED TO TAKE FREEDOMS IN THE NAME OF SECURITY I PRAY THAT WE ALL WAKEUP
Report Post »Zen Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:41amRon Paul is not the perfect candidate–just the best one.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:10amoh, he’s THE perfect candidate, alright…for the ‘laughing academy’
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:49amIs it safe to say the Tea Party is over? One has to think there are a lot of tea partiers commenting on this web page. How any Tea Partier could support someone other than Ron Paul at this point is beyond me. Tea Party was a protest against big government, yet many here are bashing Ron Paul in spite of the fact that he is the most true to the Tea Party message. Looks to me like the Tea Party has been co-opted by the Republican establishment. How else do you explain Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich being Tea Party favorites?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:07am@DRSAVAGE24 Yep. Remember, the TEA Party started WHEN BUSH WAS IN OFFICE. ALL THESE PEOPLE BLAMING OBAMA FOR ALL OUR PROBLEMS JOINED AFTERWARDS! Bush doubled the size of the Department of Education, signed TARP, increased spending, raised our National Debt Ceiling, got us trillions of dollars IN DEBT, didn’t secure the borders, illegal immigration increased, gun rights were attacked, violation of rights on the presumption that we’re all “possible terrorists” were undertaken, sending TROOPS to patrol OUR STREETS after 9/11, having the National Guard and City Police CONFISCATE OUR GUNS in New Orleans, hastily passing the Patriot Act with virtually no time to review it, having the Federal Reserve print massive amounts of paper money to fund Government waste, creation of several federal agencies including the TSA, having checkpoints set up 100 miles INSIDE OUR BORDERS, giving the FBI authority to search homes without warrants, allowing FEMA to dictate our rights during emergencies, ETC! OBAMA IS JUST A CONTINUATION. Stop kidding yourselves folks. We can defeat Obama, but if you don’t get your act together, we’re still going to have the SAME FREAKING PROBLEMS!
I’m TEA, AND I KNOW WHY! ENOUGH WITH THE BS PEOPLE!
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:09amDrsavage,
Yes the tea party was originally started by supporters of Ron Paul is now over. I can not believe that Romney has what 30% of the tea party support? Makes no sense. Now that it is popular to be a tea party supporter all repubs will “say” they are, but not all understand and vote for its original principles.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:28amPaul is smarter that anyone running this country or running our armed forces. He said that when you kill them, you cannot get information from them. If Paul was in charge on the BinLaden raid, his orders would have been to bring him in alive. Now Bin Laden is a martyr. I guarantee that his followers are planning something big in the future in retaliation (blowback). The powers to be want the NWO and they are going to get it because most Americans are followers and cannot think by themselves. You all will get what you deserve.
Report Post »samuelwcordrey
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:29amBin laden was not unarmed. It doesn’t matter if it is london or Egypt. Anyone who aids and abeds the enemy is the enemy.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:43pmWest Coast Patriot,
New World Order?
Skull and Bones……..
Lambada Chi Alpha………
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:43pmAxel, your just a sheep being pushed by the wolf in sheeps clothing.
Report Post »chisao101
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:40amThe Blaze seems to be the dishonest one here, not Dr. Paul. What a joke this site has become.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:47ami just want to ask you Paul bashers an honest question….
When the SHTF and the dollar collapses and we have NO money to pay our troops or even get our troops home from the 130 countries they are located, then what are you geniuses going to do?
You think it won’t happen” Then you are a fool. We will be BROKE and without a DEFENSE..Answer the question you numbskulls!
Report Post »AmericanSince1619
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:01amThe problem is that the Libertarian ideology is anti interventionist, don’t get involved in matters outside of the country and anti-protectionist, don’t defend US markets, let the free market decide.
While these ideas are GENERALLY a good idea, there are times when other factors come into play, are you going to let OBL run around alive, or let foreign companies buyout US companies wholesale and move jobs overseas?
Ron Paul is seemingly trapped in a prison of inflexibility with his total buy-in to the doctrine of Libertarianism. Smart enough to understand it, maybe not smart enough to understand when it does not help.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:12amSorry Doggy…
When SHTF, as you described it, the only entity that can save us are us… Not one man, not one governing body… The Messiahs’ Obama and Paul can do nothing in that scenario…
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:36amDr. Paul was talking about doing with the same with OBL as Iseral did with Adolf Otto Eichmann
After the war, he fled to Argentina . He was captured by Mossad operatives in Argentina and taken to Israel to face trial in an Israeli court on 15 criminal charges, including crimes against humanity and war crimes. He was found guilty and executed by hanging in 1962.
But this was cut out of the clip by “The ezalB”
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:41amdrudgereport articles and especially polls always show Paul doing well, even better than other candidates. Since the numerical amount of viewers of theblaze are a pimple on the behind of drudge don’t concern yourself with what agenda boys on this site say.
Report Post »straighttalk4u
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:43amHow so, the videos speak for themselves. He said he did not say it and then the proof that he said it, Facts are a stubborn thing. I get it that their is a movement to reduce spending and allocate funds to focus on economic growth, but not at the cost of national security. Obama and Paul both seem to not understand the significance of world strength to protect our globall interests. Paul has great economic reform policies, but his foreign policies scare me. And the way to keep a global defense funded is to stop the out of control wasteful spending in our national budget, not by reducing our military strength or presence,
goofyfoot2001
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:52amHave to agree that Paul didn‘t flat say he wouldn’t. He said he’d do it differently. However, If Paul were president then the Iranians could and would hold the world hostage to with sky high fuel prices causing our economy to tank further. Defense of our country in this new world economy most definitely extends beyond our borders.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:56amCant answer the question can you? What are you going to do when the dollar collapses and the troops will be in a foriegn land with no money and no way to get home?
Answer it…ANYONE have an answer? Of course you warmongers don’t have an answer. You are too busy thinking of the next Country we should invade, bomb and rebuild…Idiots.
Report Post »chewfatlip
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:58amHe is either a liar or he just loosing his marbles and can’t remember. Maybe both.
Report Post »bald stick
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:02amBaddoggy, I’m pretty sure that we have national oil reserves (if Obama hasn’t decimated them yet) to get our troops home and limp our country along till things reset. Money will probably collapse any way because it has just become a paper symbol that folks believe is worth something. I digress. Not sure what we will do for currency till then (gold and bartering maybe). We will probably go under martial law for a while to keep order, so we will need our military. If we get Obama for 4 more years, then I believe RP will be the answer (shut the whole system down and concentrate on our country and the rest of the world can go fly a kite). If there is a chance that we can save the world and our country by not shutting the rest of the world out, then I believe we should try that route first. There may be a time for RP but now is not the time. Please stop the name calling, we are on the same side. O.K. you can chew my thoughts apart now and show me the faults with what I think may happen. I’m a steel fabricator and not a social engineer. But please be civil when you show me where I am wrong (and I know I probably am). Thank you for your service.
Report Post »JD2020
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:05amAnd yet you are a joke for posting on a joke of a site. Right?
You pauldrones are worse than the Obama kool aid drinkers from 2008. What part of “NO I would not have invaded the Pakistan sovereignty” do you not understand?
Paul is dangerous spewing his going back to the gold standard. I agree we need to get back to it but it should take 20 yeas to do it. The markets would crash and our standing in the world would plummet.
You pauldrones are giving your dear leader a bad name with your unwillingness to be honest and taking over the comments sections of websites spamming the same old BS time after time. You drones have no solutions how to carry out your isolationism fantasies you just think some fairy god named paul will wave his wand and poof it will be done.
Susie
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:11amYes CHISAO101 The joke is always up when you’re caught lying. You need an awfully good memory to lie and Dr. Paul has so many gaps in his memory that you have to wonder if he is an habitual liar, or, if he is going senile. Either way he has disqualified himself as a valid candidate for president and The Blaze is right to do its job and report on it.
Report Post »SheriS
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:11amGood now we won’t have to read your attack posts—have a nice day!
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:16amSenator Jim Demint – GOP Should Listen To Ron Paul
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKt6Ocnivg
Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:18amIf we had Ron Pauls policies in the first place we never would have gotten attacked by OBL. Its time we start now. Strong Defense of this country. Stop the Military welfare socalist programs of protecting other countries. Let them do that themselves. And we get way too much blowback; it is counter to our national defense.
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:18am@Goofy how dumb can u be? Read a book kid, Iran only has 2% of the supply IF THAT MUCH. Prices are, and have been, controlled on the NYMEX. And even that only represents 15% of oil trading (est stated in “The Asylum” CR ‘11), 85% of trade is done “over-the-counter”. People selling OTC manipulate the NYMEX price when they want to make a killing. U show total ignorance of how the system works, that or ur an STD (shill, troll, disinformation).
Blaze certainly has alot of propagandist w/ Hebrew sounding names!!
Report Post »(they are all greek to me:^)
V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:19amYea, this website has constantly trashed Ron Paul. They hate him because they hate Liberty. They (neocons and liberals- AKA progressives) wish to impose their sick twisted vision of freedom onto the entire world.
I’m with Ron Paul on Bin Laden… the Pentagon shouldn’t have trained him and created “Al CIA Duh” (the CIA Database of patsies). NATO shouldn’t be working with Al Qaeda to overthrow/ execute Gadhafi and invade Libya.
I don’t care what they fabricate about Dr. Paul at this point. They have zero credibility. Alex Jones and Ron Paul has ALL the credibility.
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:20amIt is shocking how true these predictions are, absolutely shocking!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I am sorry but the man may not speak perfect, but he is a genius.
Report Post »Roy Baty
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:30amPaul is a looney tune, code pink has-been and good riddance.
Obeckian1984
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:30amAdree compare the flip flopping from the other canidates but Ron Paul has to
Report Post »be as perfect as Jesus ?????
He is saying it was NOT Necessary to Kill him
and that is what he has trouble with is how he said it.
I think he should say It was wrong to murder Bin laden and Hide his body in the sea.
Obeckian1984
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:30amhttp://www.infowars.com/all-ron-paul-south-carolina-fox-debate-highlights/
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:36am@anti paul people
So Paul says he would do it differently. Last night in the debate he tried to make a comparison with if a Chinese enemy was in our country would we allow or want China to conduct a raid on American soil to get their guy. I would think most of us would say no that isnt ok. The Chinese govt would have to come to us, and we would get the guy and hand him over. The comparison Dr. Paul tried to make is very clear, but the question was trying to set him up to look like he was not for capturing OBL. Which in fact he voted for.
Fox and the Blaze both have a agenda, and the agenda isnt pro-Constitution. All Dr. Paul said was he would use the rules of our land from the Constitution to capture.
What I wish he had brought up though is we might not have needed to kill or capture OBL had our foreign policy not created the monster.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:36amAnyone want to answer the question? Still not a single logical answer.Not one….OK lets see…You are in the middle of the deseret, no food or water…no one to help you…what do you do? Its the same thing when the dollar collapses. Our troops will be stranded. Some in ENEMY Countries. What will we do then? I can tell you…we will be taken over by our enemies. Our defenses are spread out on three fronts and 130 Countries…Bring them home before the day of reckoning!
We are BROKE and soon we will not be able to move anything. Our troops will be stranded and will not be able to protect you. I guess you think fairy dust will bring them home? Maybe wishing them home? Maybe Obama will invest in a company to teleport them home?
You may want o take that risk but I dont…And deep down you know that day is coming!
Report Post »Marathon37
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:36amI expect better information from this news source. What the main stream media fails to report and has always failed to report is that a large military presence is the solution to a problem we won’t fix. That’s how everything in our government works. We only put bandaids on problems and Ron Paul seeks to eliminate the problem all together…
Report Post »Economist
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:37amDCJONES,
WOW that video is amazing!! Incredible stuff there!
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:41amOh ?
Report Post »What is dishonest about using a man’s own words against him?
All TheBlaze did was post RECORDINGS of Dr. PauI that contradict his other RECORDED statements.
How is that dishonest?
I was actually giving R0N PauI the benefit of the doubt, thinking he was probably trying to walk a thin line of distinction, leaving himself some wiggle room… Until I listened to the entirety of the second clip.
I DO think rp had one of his best debates last night. But I strive to be honest with myself and others. So I must call this one as I see it. “Paul #dodge” (a twitter thing last night)
sawbuck
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:51amBaddoggy.
Ok lets go down that road and play this out..
Ron Paul gets elected…He brings ALL the troops home.
Now we have the troops home, some are discharged from the military, we have to many standing around receiving a government check plus benefits . He closes The Fed over turns all un-constitutional laws. He shuts-down many of the alphabet agency’s
He closes many hand-out programs.. He sticks to the constitution that allows open commerce to all nations (good or bad).
NOW…. Here we are “A NATION” that is almost broke, unemployment highest ever . Rich people and Banks have all the money and land. What’s going to happen..?
The industries are all gone .who is going to hire all these people that just lost their jobs and programs,yet alone the one’s, that are not working now. ? Who is going to train all these people ? And what’s the minimum wage’s with what benefits..? Who is going to jump start this economy ? REMEMBER…Ron Paul just Opened free trade to ALL NATIONS .. Are the “Rich and the “Banks” going to invest in America ? Or are they going to do what they did back in the 90’s
When they open the trade door with China and NAFTA ,and turned our “Industrial Towns” here in the U.S. Into” GHOST TOWNS” .?
And I didn’t bring up any wars .
Report Post »I think we are in huge trouble ,and the damn is broke loose.
What does this country have ,that the rest of the world wants ?
To get the millions of people … back to work.?
TJeff1
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:52amDCJONES,
That video is really an eye opener. Absolutely amazing.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:54amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7v8qtZ3I5AM#t=0s
Did Ron Paul seriously get booed when promoting a concept that every child is taught as a core value? It is mind boggling how people could disagree and argue against the idea of treating others how you would like to be treated.
You know “The Golden Rule?”
Report Post »bald stick
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:57amBaddoggy, I kind of answered your question.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:00amI found this post interesting:
“Let me give you Americans this from a foreign perspective, if you (the United States) did what you did to Bin Laden on British soil – I would consider that an act of war.
Even if I loathed Bin Laden (which I do), you do not undermine the sovereignty of my country and expect to get away with it. “
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:03amRon Paul finally mentioned Letters of Marques and Reprisals in a debate and he got cut off before he could explain it. It is a single issue that drastically changes the perception of his foreign policy and it rarely comes out, even in interviews.
Here’s the explanation:
Ron Paul’s War:
Dr. Paul supports using “letters of marque and reprisal.”
These are, in effect, licenses to private parties to carry out acts of war. We used them against the Barbary pirates. Almost immediately after the attack on the World Trade Center, Dr. Paul introduced in the 107th Congress H.R. 2076, called the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001, authorizing holders of the letters to go after bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders and seize them and their property. He also voted to give President Bush authority to use the military to go after Al Qaeda, but he has been pressing for letters of marque ever since.
Dr. Paul’s bill would have covered not only past attacks but any “planned future air piratical aggressions and depredations” against us. It would have given the president discretion to pay up to $40 billion in what were, in effect, bounties for the “capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001.”
Dr. Paul said that one thing he wanted as to avoid a trillion dollar expedition when there was a simpler, constitutional approach of bringing the war to
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:04amhe said it-the proof is on video…then he denied saying it, also on video…no matter how hard you delusional Ronulans spin, you can’t change reality; your tinfoil hat messiah is, like most other longtime Congresscritters, a lying sack of crap
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:07am@goofyfoot2001 , Federal Reserve with his puppets can’t hold Dr. Paul hostage, but if he will be president Iran will? Dude woke up from your stupid dream. Nobody on that stage have bigger BaIIs then Paul. This is why I love him, and will vote only for him.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:09amDid anyone catch the Santorum on 2nd amendment answer? (and why isn’t their a video here…) Paraphrasing “we have to bargain with your 2nd amendment right, so that nothing bigger and badder get passed”
My question then is…….What other of my constitutionally protected rights will you bargain away??
Report Post »Economist
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:10amSawbuck,
Glad you brought this up. First thing you would see is a mad rush of capital investment into the US treasuries and companies. Our dollar is only supported by the fact that it is the pig with the most lipstick on it. They are all worthless fiat. Dollar is the best of all the worthless currency. You would see the dollar rise significantly; gold would drop like a rock, OIL PRICES WOULD PLUNGE ($30 barrel). $1.25 gas. (which would bankrupt Iran and Venezuela BTW). What you would see is hard times for about 6 months while all the debt gets liquidated. But after this, you would have a level playing field for new investments and hiring. A surplus of labor with less regulation and a strong currency would bring a lot of US industry back here. You would see multinationals start to backtread into US soil. Our trade deficit would reduce. And US consumer and industries would begin to have savings and capital. This would sow the seeds for the next innovative initiative that only the US system is capable of.
We have been much less innovative than previously because innovation needs a surplus of capital to be generated. Companies need savings to direct to R&D. Currently the US government is soaking up all the savings with its debt and sapping the US consumer and companies dry. We need new industries but none can take root in this environment.
Report Post »Economist
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:11amThe fallacy is that a job is the end all be all. Its not its productive jobs only that count. We could have the US government create 1,000,000 new jobs tomorrow by having 500,000 people dig holes in the ground and 500,000 people fill the hole in. The jobs were created? Yes but what do you have for them? Nothing! Its not jobs its what is produced that is important.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:12amI am no Paulist but video speaks for itself only to the extent that the video is presented. Some agrue that Paul would have had Bin Laden arrested by Pakistan, deported to the US and tried in civilian court. I believe that is true. The Nazi and Japanese leaders responsible for WWII were tried, sentenced and exceuted or imprisioned. They were certainly responsible for many more deaths than Bin Laden and crew.
We could have just as easily captured the Nazi and Japanese, put them against a wall and shot them without much critique. Instead the Allied nations tried them in a court of justice. For some reason, we took the high road.
Intellectually I agree with him. Emotionally, I glad the SEALS killed him and Bin Laden didn’t have his day in court to play to a world audience.
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:18amLol! Paulbots……..Obey…..Obey…..Obey…..What a bunch of lemming cult members. Reminds me of somebody elses’ “fans”. You are all the same. I guarantee when he is not the choice, 2/3s of you idiots will vote for the current commie, or not vote at all, giving it back to ostupida$$.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:26amFollowing Glenn Beck’s philosophy and we will have to give back our republic to Great Britain. You have no right to defend land you lived on.
Report Post »Glenn, Pat and Stu sure sound more and more like nazis before WWII in Germany. They was just simply defending their country from those evil Poles.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:27amsawbuck
Maybe this will help.
PAUL’S PRO-AMERICA FOREIGN POLICY
* Make securing our borders the top national security priority.
Report Post »* Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.
* Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.
* End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.
* Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.
* Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.
* Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.
* Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.
* Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.
* Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:27amRon Paul on the Economy
Report Post »As President, Ron Paul will lead the way out of this crisis by:
* Vetoing any unbalanced budget Congress sends to his desk.
* Refusing to further raise the debt ceiling so politicians can no longer spend recklessly.
* Fighting to fully audit (and then end) the Federal Reserve System, which has enabled the over 95% reduction of what our dollar can buy and continues to create money out of thin air to finance future debt.
* Legalizing sound money, so the government is forced to get serious about the dollar’s value.
* Ending the corporate stranglehold on the White House.
* Driving down gas prices by allowing offshore drilling, abolishing highway motor fuel taxes, increasing the mileage reimbursement rates, and offering tax credits to individuals and businesses for the use and production of natural gas vehicles.
* Eliminating the income, capital gains, and death taxes to ensure you keep more of your hard-earned money and are able to pass on your legacy to your family without government interference.
* Opposing all unfunded mandates and unnecessary regulations on small businesses and entrepreneurs.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:28amA PRO-ENERGY PRESIDENT
Report Post »As President, Ron Paul will lead the fight to:
* Remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home.
* Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers.
* Lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power.
* Eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create – not to Washington.
* Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies.
JustMel71
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:39amIf Romney is the nominee, let us not forget (or in case you missed it) he would have done the same as Obama and signed into law the NDAA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKvnQU-XfTg
People aren’t going to vote against a strong military complex around the world because of two important factors. One being out of fear that has been drilled into their noggins and secondly out of not voting for familiarity. They see Dr. Paul’s stance to cut SOME military spending, not defense as crazy!! Dr. Paul cutting some military spending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNPm5du56UU
My 2 cents worth. I think only Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich can beat Obama, not the other clowns performing the circus act. God help us all.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:43amI never post on the blaze anymore but I must on this.. This guy is dangerous to all fellow Americans .. There is something wrong with him and it’s an understatement calling him a kook…
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:44ambringiton
You are wrong….Or maybe just not totally right. I believe there are some Paul supporters who probably fit your description. But his newest supporters are not those. we see our choices as SOCIALISM, SAME OL’ SH_ _, and LIBERTY/CONSTITUTION.
Speaking for myself, and I am sure some others would agree: Show me someone who cares as much about our liberty and the constitution as Paul….but can speak better, and explain himself in a better way that man would have my vote over Ron Paul…..but where is he.
I’m not crazy about his (Paul’s) foreign policy, but what i care about more is what is going on here at home. What do i know about the rest of the world, that isn’t fed to me through the media? I can’t look around Iran, or Israel and see…Here at home i can look around me without media guidance, and compare what i see to the media. And more times than not….It doesn’t match up…funny how everyone talks crap about how untrustworthy the media is, but when it comes to foreign affairs everyone makes media the gospel.
No thanks…remove these shackles of regulations so i can pursue my happiness. Foreign policy is not what is keeping me down..Stopping me from pursuing the entrepreneurial ideas in my mind..Our overly regulated society is….and i don’t see anyone else willing to give up real power..Except Ron Paul
Report Post »Economist
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:52amBallot,
Well said! Much of what you are saying resonates with me.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:59amOk sawbuck…You would rather have our troops in other countries when we go broke than at home? It must be tough to type on your PC when your arms are in a straight jacket…
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:02amSeems to me the only people who seriously lost credibility during that debate, was FOX NEWS. They basically ignored the man in second place for the first 40 minutes, and when they “BOTHERED” to ask him a question they spoke to him with venomous and blatant disdain. Even during the after show, John Roberts ignored Paul, even to the point of not showing any graphics from the live twitter polling, which of course he showed on everybody else! When called out on it by a co-host he begrudgingly put up Rons graphic, but unlike the others, he wasn’t going to explain it. He didn’t need to, it clearly showed that Dr. Paul wiped the floor with the other FAUX, fox conservatives. When pressed on the obviousness of this fact, Roberts, openly irritated said “we report, you deciede.” Right, Nuck Fut, first you try NOT to report, then you Obviscate, then you sarcastically imply you did your job, NEITHER you nor FAKE NEWS CHANNEL did what is right.
Report Post »It’s very sad, for I expect the FAR left media to lie with every breath, but to see with such clarity the fact that the right media is a Jucking Foke and equally Lucifarian.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:06amWhy did Beck attack President Andrew Jackson today?
Andrew Jackson wielded THAT GLEAMING SWORD that slayed the beast called the Central Bank, that’s why. Beck compares this action to Manifest Destiny, the followers of which are really the psychopathic Premptive Warfare Neocons and the Humanitarian Aid Liberals who want to institute a Police State around the world, starting wars everywhere in a faux crusade against muslims and christians, nation building with 900+ bases worldwide while the American people are fed cakes and circuses.
The reason Beck attacks Andrew Jackson is to abstractly and indirectly attack Ron Paul because Ron Paul has THAT GLEAMING SWORD that will slay the beast called the Federal Reserve.
Beck wants to see Ron Paul’s face on the front of a brand spanking new $1000 or $5000 bill, as a testament to the Central Bank’s victory over that knight in shining armor, as they have been victorious against the United States by continuing the printing of that false currency.
I would like to see Ron Paul’s face on a new AMERICAN coin in a monetary system with a gold or silver standard.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:07amAll of the Paul bashers seem to be in denial about the NWO..and some of you here seem to think that it will be just necessary and “business as usual.” Wow.. I am starting to understand why you dont’t really understand it..It was spoken of first by George H Bush and Henry kissinger is on record for saying that the American people weren’t going to like it..but that it would be best for them..All the money has transferred to the World Banks. and the ME .and who do you think is owned by the banks.? .It sure isn’t Ron Paul..THe NWO is even referred to in the Bible..and our anti-Christ is Islam’s Saviour. That is how the Quran reads .It was all prophesied what would go down..Islam will be used to bring about tribulation..We deserve this…I can’t believe how ignorant people are…but I shouldn‘t be judging as even the Jews and Islam’s eyes are blinded to the real Messiah..No faith…no belief.. Ron Paul is the only chance that the US..we the people have of surviving because he will take us back to the God givern rights this nation was founded upon. Otherwise..we are done..There won’e be another 4 years to wait for Ron Paul..THe time is now or never..you will no longer have any choice. You people aren’t realizing the direness of this situation.
Report Post »Trenaway
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:23amI want to ask you cultist freak jobs one question; How many videos do we have to show you, that your god Ron Paul says these things, until you stop denying he said them. You people are the most dishonest, evil, sinful people I have ever met. You are worse than ******** and that is why you are a cult following. NO TO THE CHURCH OF RON PAUL CULTIST FREAKS!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:23amWhen Haraldo Rivera..said that there was a huge announcement to be made and that it was of major importance..I called all of my friends..getting some out of bed for this “huge announcement from the President..upon hearing what the news was..I was so disgusted that I e-mailed them all and apoligized for alarming them for no reason..So we assassinated some ole has been and they had known his where abouts for a year or two..I remember reading about it..So then our Seal Team Six gets assassinated as blowback Wow..really great trade…I never thought that we need to go to war in Iraq..We needed our men here to protect us..because Islam is here We train Islamic leaders in our Universitites..(Bin Laden) we armed them and taught them in guerilla warfare (Clinton Era against the Russians) We trained them to fly airplanes.(World Trade Center) We do stupid things here in America..which are unAmerican..We do need to take care of our own..Why spend our tax money to blow up nations only to rebuild them one trillion a year.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:24am@SUSIE Are you La Mont Hill?
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:27amBaddoggy.
Report Post »I was being honest , sincere and was trying to have an open a dialogue (without in-fighting) . Read some other post here. The last thing I want is a second term for our current administration.
I was just getting ready to say that this was a very good thread ,we might just come together yet.
I hope we haven’t come to the point that we are so divided,
that we loose this election, because we are unwilling to come together for the greater good. It appears to me it’s going to take a miracle ,whomever becomes the Nominee.
Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:29amYou would think that all of these media outlets and Repub establishment would want to embrace Ron Paul’s supporters. But they try to outcast him and them. This is a HUGE mistake. Fox’s rating will go down because of this. Also Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity’s ratings have already dropped precipitously because of the RP bashing. About 1/3 have dropped for Rush and 1/4 dropped for Sean. Levin has lost about 1/3 of his listeners as well he has gone absolute bonkers against RP.
They should embrace these RP supporters because they come from all political spectrums. They are economic types that like his economic policy, they are Libertarians that like his freedom messages, they are Republicans that like his small gov. message and low taxes, they are also liberals that like his foreign policy, and finally a lot of people like him because he is a “non political” type of politician that basically stands on principle.
Like it or not he gets a lot of support and these people are young and enthusiastic. The establishment needs his supporters. And yet I read these comments and watch the Fox news debate and get turned off from these groups (like fox and rebub. establishment) that I used to be so fond of.
They can either embrace Ron Paul’s supporters or hand the election back to Obama, your choice.
Report Post »TheFastestCamper
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:36amBADDOGGY, Bald Stick did answer your question in a very civil manner. There are some holes in his logic but he most certainly engaged you in an honest way. Now, have a discussion with him and educate rather that ridicule. Dont stoop to THEIR(FoxNews, Blaze, etc) level
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:39am@ Chisa0101
Report Post »“The Blaze seems to be the dishonest one here, not Dr. Paul. What a joke this site has become.”
As I am not a Paul supporter, I obviously need “education” (beyond my 3 postgraduate degrees). How has The Blaze been dishonest in this instance. I saw the debate last night. I read the article above. I saw the clips attached to the article. Maybe Paul is not a “liar.” But, according to what constitutes lying under my understanding (again, admittedly, an understanding that lacks the full light associated with supporting Ron Paul), Ron Paul has lied in this instance. Please tell me what I’m missing.
eagle2715
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:44amBADDOGGY
Since I‘ve seen you post this a couple of times now with the hope of drawing someone in I’ll bite for ya…but it’s gonna hurt a lot….
You have as much of an understanding of the military and military methods as Ron Paul exhibits…Very Little…You neither one understand the importance of being ABLE to respond anywhere in the world in under 18 hours with grounds troops….That ability alone stops more conflicts than cruise missiles ever will, and that’s without the Marines ever stepping foot on land, except for a long weekend in the Philippines….
You think the US military needs pay checks to function on life support? Your wrong….
You think the US military doesn’t have supplies and fuel posted up all over the world in case they can no longer resupply from the mainland? Your wrong….
You think that the locals around these US bases all hate us and just want us gone? Again….you are sadly misinformed….
You think the guys in Afghanistan and Iraq aren’t use to going dark for weeks on end? Again…you are very wrong….
You think the rest of us vet and not vet alike wouldn’t expend every effort to get our people home if it came to that? Your starting to sound like an idiot now….or more so of one….
You think because the dollar crashes the whole world will come to a screeching halt? Farmers are gonna stop planting crops? All the cattle are gonna go on strike? And fruit will stop growing? Or oil won’t come out of the grou
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:50amV-MAN MACE
you continually exemplify why the public education system sucks through your complete lack of knowledge of history….
I‘m surprised you didn’t throw in a “cops are evil thugs” line like you usually do you tool….
Andrew Jackson was one of the the top 5 (well 6 if you count the current one) worst presidents this country has ever had….He was ruthless, evil, and driven….3 very dangerous traits, and the American Indians felt it….
Saying Andrew Jackson was great because of what he did to the banks is like saying Hitler is great because of the autobahn or coal to gas processes…(and no I’m not saying Andrew Jackson is as bad as Hitler, I’m saying your statement is just as bad as that one….)
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:02amAnyone want to answer the question? Still not a single logical answer.Not one….OK
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:03am@SAWBUCK I posted to you but it’ not showing up..you seem concerned about the military coming home with no jobs and what will the employees of 5 gov bureaucracies do..We spend ine trillion a year on blowing up nations and rebuilding them..That money can be used at home..Patroling our borders..we save 338.3 billion a year on illegals..we build our miltary..We cut these 5 gov beaurocracies which are stifling our economy and us. The funding here can be used in educational and medical fields. Our military can even help rebuild our infrastructure..Did you know we are contracting China to do that now.? We need to fight for us..now everyone else..if we don’t there will be no us Homeland Security was used in passing weapons to Hezbollah and TSA scrutinizes everyone except who they should ..Something to ponder.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:33am@Dismayed Vet, I feel the same way. Reason doesn’t outweigh the fact I was jumping for joy all day when I heard they got him. Scrath that, I’m still jumping for joy about it. Even as a Paul supporter, I’m glad they went in and killed him.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:06pm@Chuck Stein
How about the title of this hit piece for example, as he has stated over and over that he would have gone after Bin Laden, just not in the same way that is was done.
The title itself is totally misleading, if you knew a little more about his position.
The article never mentions his clear position of using Letters of Marque and Reprisal, as it helps to clarify his position. That…is simply leaving out vital information to slant this hit piece.
http://www.progress.org/fold232.htm
One also must keep in mind that Ron Paul told us long ago where he thought Bin Laden was hiding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyHtTL6sU2g
Ron Paul did totally disagree with the way Bin Laden handled, especially when they killed an un-armed man when the could have captured him and then possibly gleaned a great deal of information.
The fact of the matter is Ron Paul has been completely consistent with his policy, and this hit piece is nothing but a pathetic attempt to paint a false picture by leaving out critical information, while selectively quoting him out of context.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:07pm@Trenaway Has it ever occurred to you that the MSM will malign, distort, and lie about a Small Government candidate, who faithfully seeks Constitutional principles, a strong National Defense, and free market solutions? That’s right. They fear that the message of Freedom from Tyranny and individual Liberty will expose and destroy their Marxist agenda. Name two posts on here that have painted Paul in a positive way? Exactly. The left, the right, the Republican Establishment, the Democrat Establishment, the Obama administration, the MSM, the radio talking heads, the international bankers, the global elite, the Marxists, they all hate him. Yet, he’s doing very well in the primaries. The people are waking up. They see past the lies and agenda of the MSM and radio talking heads. The question proposed by Bret Baier was a two part question lumped into one, with an added false assumption to it. The hosts did this to most of the candidates up there.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:08pmeagle2715
Your ad hominem attack on my intellect is tangential and irrelevant.
When cops act like evil thugs they deserve to be characterized as such.
Comparing the Autobahn or Coal-to-Gas processes to the private Federal Reserve Bank and its predecessors illustrates a severe lack of education in history, a disconnect with reality, and the inability to form a coherent argument on your part.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:14pm*Name two articles on here
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:19pm@ Freedomluver: “The fact of the matter is Ron Paul has been completely consistent with his policy, and this hit piece is nothing but a pathetic attempt to paint a false picture by leaving out critical information, while selectively quoting him out of context.”
Report Post »The Blaze title (and article) only dealt with RP’s conflicting statements regarding THE raid that killed Bin Laden — not hypothetical possibilities or RP’s “alternate” ways of dealing with OBL. The Blaze was truthful. RP was not. If a critique is deceitful for leaving out context, then RP is all the more guilty of deceit — regarding his attack ads against Rick Santorum.
colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:01pm@Chuck Stein Santorum whines about the ads, and then admits they’re true, and tries to defend his positions, which vertically goes, “we need big Government and more Government solutions because it’s the right thing to do”. Yeah, Rick, having Government ban books promoting communism might be the right thing to do, but it’s against freedom, and contrary to equal under the Law. Some social Progressives never learn.
The question given by Baier was a setup, or badly organized one. The last part of the question or comment made a reference to International Law, not the Pakistan incident.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:26pm*vertically – virtually
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:20pm@Chuck Stein
There were no conflicting statements, as Ron Paul’s positions have never changed.
Taking select quotes out of context that are addressing different issues is hardly being intellectually honest, and it is obvious you are desperate.
The Blaze has become a disgrace, and they willingly left out parts of the clips as well as Ron Paul’s well known position regarding the Letters of Marque that put everything in a different light.
Now as for your issue with Santorum, even he was forced to admit he voted for a bad bill, and gave the pathetic excuse that he was forced into the lesser of two evils.
Well..evil is evil period, and that’s like saying you voted for Mao over Mussolini…when the obvious choice is none of the above.
Also…how about Santorum’s refusal to condemn the totally unconstitutional NDAA that allows for YOUR arrest with no warrant, no witnesses, no trial, and no release date?
If you can actually vote for someone who openly spits on the 6th amendment…there is no hope for you, as you willingly place the chains of your own destruction around your neck.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:47pmdemint.disciple
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:43am
I never post on the blaze anymore
That has suck a nice ring to it.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 8:31amOBVIOUSLY The Blaze was ordered to The Grove by the Wattaburgers and the CIA to digitally alter the words in the radio interview to make it appear that Our Lord and Savior Docotor Paul was being inconsistent. In fcat, they probably did the deed in the shadow of the Great Owl. Of course, we will never know the whole truth because the Zionists apparantly locked away the CGI artists and the Ron Paul impersonator in a FEMA camp, never to be heard from again.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:13pmUrsaMajor
Are you saying Bohemian Grove and that Stone Owl is a fabrication? Because we saw it on video…
Glenn Beck has been shilling for Israel unabashedly for months now… continuing the Axis of Evil garbage Bohemian Bush started…
Oh I know, you’re gonna say Alex Jones is a Vatican Assassin Warlock for exposing these disgusting Luciferians. And Jesse Ventura used a movie set (the same one used to fake the moon landing) to create the FEMA Camps in the TruTV show “Conspiracy Theory”. Those FEMA coffins? Fake. Everyone who has seen them and videotaped them are fake. Robots.
Thanks for exposing yourself as a complete idiot. Go back to that rancid trough of government sanctioned corporate distributed propaganda and have your fill, your brainwashed little sheep.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:39amSo Ron Paul says he would have CAPTURED Bin Laden and got information from him. That isn’t good enough for you bloodthirsty neocon war machine lovers. You wanted a bullet in the head. Admit it…you want murder and RP wanted to get information. There was not any discussion of capturing him, only killing him. You are a mental patient of the WAR MACHINE.
I hate the enemy as bad as you, but I know the difference in cold blodded murder ordered by the President and trying to capture for information…There was NO discusssion of capture. This comes from a Combat Veteran too…me.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:16amAnyone with half a brain would have capture OBL faked his death and took to a place that isn‘t there to meet people that don’t exist to be question OBL with impunity.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:30amDo we think they actually shot BinLaden in the head? There seems to be no evidense yet. May have but I’ll wait for the evidense.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:51amPot and Pacifism – the mantra of Paul. Thanks to The Blaze for exposing Magoo’s lies. Boy he looked miserable in that S. Carolina debate. He was squirming like a Democrat in a church.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:12am@Disenlight… You respond to a veteran’s post saying “Pot and Pacifism”… Do you really think he wants to smoke pot and is a pacisfist?
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:25amBaddoggy
Dr. Paul was wanted to do with OBL the same as Iseral did with Adolf Otto Eichmann
After the war, he fled to Argentina . He was captured by Mossad operatives in Argentina and taken to Israel to face trial in an Israeli court on 15 criminal charges, including crimes against humanity and war crimes. He was found guilty and executed by hanging in 1962.
He stated this in the debate but for some reason it was cut from the clip?
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:33amA decade was spent trying to capture him. We weren’t there when he was shot, so the BEST any of us can do is GUESS what happened when bin laden was shot.
Oh, and throwing around derisive monickers like “neocon” and “warmonger” doesn’t help your argument. It only highlights a closed-mindedness and hatred.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:41amDont like being called warmonger and neocon? Then stop supporting warmongers and neocons…Simple. Until then…accept the truth about yourself.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:00amThere is a reason Ron Paul after 30 years in Congress isn’t a chairman on any of these committees. Agriculture
Appropriations
Armed Services
Budget
Education and the Workforce
Energy and Commerce
Ethics
Financial Services
Foreign Affairs
Homeland Security
House Administration
Intelligence (Permanent Select)
Judiciary
Natural Resources
Oversight and Government Reform
Rules
Science, Space, and Technology
Small Business
Transportation and Infrastructure
Veterans’ Affairs
Ways and Means
The man is a lunatic and I’m getting tired of his mush mouth teh heeees like a 3 year old when he is asked a serious question. Many Paulbots thought George W Bush was an idiot with the way he spoke, imagine Ron Paul as President in negotiations with Iran after they level our Allie Israel. Some really scary stuff!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:42am@Blackhawk1
Which one of the founders would have been offered to head any of these “positions” using the logic of those who now ignore their words?
Let’s take “homeland security” as a perfect example…shall we?
Do you think that Jefferson would have agreed with the NDAA that allows for YOUR arrest without charges, witnesses, a trial, and no release date when it is in direct violation of the 6th amendment?
Do you think Madison would have backed the immoral TSA, as they spit on the 4th amendment while strip searching 88 year old women with ZERO probable cause?
The really “scary stuff” is we have buffoons such as yourself who bought the whole “Iraq” was developing nukes, and when the lie is exposed…you buy another strawman/Booggie Man hook line and sinker.
Now tell us…what does if feel like to realize that your views on so called defense, are much more in line with Obama, the Democrats, and the CFR…than they are with Jefferson, Washington, and Adams?
It must really suck to have to admit that…eh?
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:57amAnd exactly how would Paul’s administration of gotten info out of him? He isn’t going to water board him, or use stress techniques to persuade him into talking….He’s only going to ask him really nice? He’s gonna put him on civilian trial, for war crimes?
Paul backed himself into a corner on this one….The risk of trying to capture him was far far to great. With the Intel that the house or Bin laden himself could be rigged with explosives they had no other choice…Risk loosing a dozen of our Military’s finest, or risk the backlash for killing him….
Go ask Marcus Luttrell what he thinks about that choice?
I’m glad the SEALs killed him. Saved us a lot of money…And again shows how Paul and his supporters have no understanding on how you actually fight, just how your suppose to be nice….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:46pmNow now Eagle, there‘s a lot of Paul’s supporters on here that served too.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:21pm@eagle2715
A dead Osama could offer us just how much information?
Your desired outcome leaves no chance…while Dr. Paul’s does…correct?
Man…talk about backing yourself into a corner!
The Seal team actually entered the compound and supposedly killed him in his bedroom, so why are you blathering about explosives that they had already exposed themselves to…or does that go over your head as well?
Then again….you are almost certainly one of the sheeple who believed the lie foisted upon you by the powers that be, and Iraq was in the process of building nukes…right?
Tell us…how does it feel to be so easily fooled, only to go right back for the bait once again?
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:30amI will support our nominee , no matter who it is !!! Period, all of them have flaws, but all are better than this , crackhead, closet homosexual marxist, community agitator we have now !!!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:46amMe too!….Unless it’s Paul.
Report Post »I have decided that I will not have a vote for Ron Paul on my conscience.
Obama is not an option.
So if by some stretch of the imagination Paul gets the nomination, I will sit this one out.
Can‘t believe I’m saying that, but thats just how strongly I feel about both of them.
Fortunately, I am confident that it will not come to that since there is no way Paul will win the nomination.
Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:54amRational man is a liberal, commie or Marxist…Dont know which. If you cant stand with a Constitutionalist then you should move to Cuba instead of wanting us to change from freedom and liberty to socilaism…
Wake up man.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:01am@Baddoggy
WHAT!…….No Bible verse to support your post against me??
Report Post »chisao101
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:19am@Rationalman: That doesn’t sound rational at all. You would support Obama over Ron Paul? Even if you don’t like Dr. Paul’s foreign policy, hi economic policy is better than anyone in the race…or anyone that’s ever been in the race for decades.
Report Post »forliberty420
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:24amRational Man, You are an idiot and you are brainwashed if you really think Ron Paul is crazy radical…there is nothing Radical about the Constitution…It is slime like you that has caused the downfall or our Republic….Dont vote PERIOD. Yours is a zombified vote for the Status Quo…see you in Gitmo!!!
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:35amRational man likes Obama better than Paul? Even Rush, Glenn, Shawn, Mitt and Gingrich like Paul better than Obama.
Report Post »Hmmmm. interesting. either a liberal, establishment GOP, or just a commie. Maybe just foolish.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:15amJudge Napolitano – Are they LYING To You? Ron Paul
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPRj3yhuVs
samuelwcordrey
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:43amAmazing how we are ripping Rationalman for saying he wouldn’t vote if RP was the candidate. What about the men who won’t vote if RP is NOT the candidate. sounds a lot more close-minded to me.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:26pmRationalman says he will sit it out if Paul get the nomination, and is confident that it will not come down to that.
I say that’s fine, your vote will not be needed….and I have to agree with you. I am also confident that he will not be the nominee (the establishment will put who they want in anyways), and I am happy about this to a certain extent. If Paul runs as 3rd party it will be “oh so poetic” for him to win in that position. It would be awesome to make the parties see that they no longer own us, and for all you “cut the vote” people to eat your words…
This is not Perot, and these are not the times of Perot…..
I’m going ALL IN on Liberty…..I can’t help it if the rest of you want to be herded…..
Report Post »PointBreak
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:26amWhen did the Blaze become CNN? The flood of weak argument hit pieces on candidates this website deem undesirable is nauseating. The communist China-like deletion of certain posts which don’t violate the rules is also alarming. It‘s becoming ’we report, theBlaze decides with extreme prejudice’ in the comments section.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:35am@pointbreak
Report Post »Probably when they hired that chick from Huffington post…..
masters11111
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:41amI agree detoit that could be
Report Post »drago
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:40amI have to agree Pointbreak, Beck did say he was going to clean things up here, but didnt say when.First thing, get rid of the huffpo rejects……
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:58amRon Paul Supporters:
Report Post »#1. Be Arrogant
#2. Be Condescending
#3. Be self-important
#4. Be self-righteous
#5. Tout your superior intellect to help overcome your lack of self-confidence (see numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 then go straight to #15).
#6. Give slippery rhetorical answers to straight questions
#7. Hide/Ignore or spin Ron Paul’s congressional record of 23 Years in Congress, creating 620 bills of which 4 made it to the floor and only one became law.
#8. When cornered and have no truthful or direct response, spout angry, non-topic rhetoric as an answer, then see #19.
#9. Hide your democrat voting status from the public & pretend you’re a republican.
#10. Blame everyone else, never take credit for a problems like Barrack Obama because we are closet Ultra-Liberals
#11. Berate and/or belittle your opponent whenever losing an argument, then see #19
#12. Blame America for the world hating the US and act like an Arab Psychiatrist/Pathologist when promoting the 9/11 Jihad conspiracy.
#13. Be courteous and direct others to their local cable or satellite channel that carries reruns of Conspiracy theory with Jesse “You deserve to lose a few” Ventura.
Next
RepubliCorp
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:59am#14. Copy and paste data from whatever unreliable source you can find to try and validate your argument.
Report Post »#15. Avoid/ignore any or all valid retort or facts that invalidate your agenda at all costs or whenever possible. (Go back to #6)
#16. Create a fictitious Facebook persona to hide your true identity like our Anarchist/OWS cousins.
#17. Make cowardly drive-by hit and run comment and/or “like” a fellow Paulbot’s hit and run comment.
#18. Bait adversaries by commenting/posting irrelevant points and/or points you were making during your last debate with someone totally different on another topic all together without looking like you are arguing with yourself. Try to avoid looking foolish at all costs.
#19. Scurry over to your nearest Ron Paul thread and alert other bots to join you and that you require assistance because you’re losing your delusional Liberal arguments. Then medicate, repeat, put on your drool bib and go back to marching in the paper slipper brigade.
#20. Follow #18 and 19 to the letter, then surround your opponent and take cheap pot-shots from your behind your fictitious Facebook persona (See #9 and #16).
#21. Before debating, avoid getting fecal matter in or behind your ears when removing your head from your rectum. This will be particularly useful when listening to CD’s of “Dr” Paul in your Toyota Prius.
#22. When casting your ballot for “Dr” Paul during online polls, remember to clear your cookies then repeat. Do this as many times
Susie
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:19amGee, did someone cut out your post POINTBREAK ? I wonder why.
Report Post »The very idea, that a web site, even The Blaze, would monitor its comment section is outrageous – Nawh can’t be POINTBREAK. Nobody does that !!!
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:21amSenator Jim Demint – GOP Should Listen To Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKt6Ocnivg
Judge Napolitano – Are they LYING To You?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPRj3yhuVs
Palin: GOP better not marginalize Ron Paul and his supporters
Report Post »http://www.therightscoop.com/palin-gop-better-not-marginalize-ron-paul-and-his-supporters/
Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:38amPaul haters make up lies, distort and HATE THE CONSTITUTION and LIBERTY!
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:23am@ REPUBLICORP: Excellent! I think douchedoggy just crapped his pants and took his toys home to pout with in his mommies basement!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:31amBaddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:38am
Paul haters make up lies, distort and HATE THE CONSTITUTION and LIBERTY!
Report Post »===================================
That is like Nobama haters saying if you don’t support Barry your a racist.
BetterDays
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:16am@Republicorp
Report Post »And I suppose your methodology is quite simple. Likely a single line can explain it.
Servant of your father, the father of LIES.
rose-ellen
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:31amGoing around the world murdering people in cold blood is morally reprehensible and ron paul has the nerve to say it.We have nothing to complain about if we have a military engaging in wanton murder.That we no longer even recognize murder as wrong shows how we a are the nazis of the 21stc..Anyone who resists us is morally justified.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:53am@Republicorp: #16 gives you away. I would have almost taken you for an activity SPT, but your phrasing paints you. Any luck finding your klan robe? Might need to watch your fb page a little more closely.
p.s. Still surprised no one else has called you on your Van Jones “revolution America” avatar.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 11:01amREPUBLICORP
Hahaha…I swear they need to update this discussion system….I was looking for the LIKE button on those…Awesome man…Awesome!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:47pm@eagle2715
Why don’t you and your comrade Republicorp simply come out and admit you work for the TSA, and since you know the only candidate who will stop your blatant violations of the 4th amendment is Ron Paul, you just have to try and tear him down?
After all, if Ron Paul is elected you will be out of a job….now won’t you…and you will no longer be allowed to strip search anyone whom you please…eh?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:15pmFREEDOMLUVER Do you hear the black helicopters? You will
Report Post »masters11111
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:25amWhy did the blaze not post that rp got endorsed by sen from s.c .now thats news???
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEP_YsGohGs
louise
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:35amIt is the best of news.
Would be great if DeMint would have some cajones and declare his support for Ron Paul now, instead of waiting till after the vote. He stands with Paul on almost everything. He admits it in this audio here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTSzeMsDtW0&feature=relmfu
Waiting till Saturday is not honorable. And what really annoys me is watching these guys (not Paul) desperately try to position themselves to appear to stand for Liberty while they are in reality trampling it underfoot. They don’t care about the Constitution. Did they ever? But now we have a real shot at having a President who DOES CARE.
Report Post »The evangelicals sold out to Santorum and endless wars. Ron Paul was correct in last nights debate. It is very sad to watch the Blaze try to bring down the one true Statesman. One would think that Glenn et al would support the one man who has the RECORD of upholding the Constitution.
Is this site about Truth? Not so much. Try entertainment.
louise
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:48amHere is a new ad from Ron Paul. Enjoy and pass it on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jSVi45vfA6oon Paul. Enjoy and pass it on
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:31amDeMint gave permission for his voice in a video, but not the endorsement. It’s just as good I guess, since he wants to “sit on the fence.” FOUR SC senators have endorsed Ron Paul! Now that’s news!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:25amBecause Glenns “real payday” is from clear channel communications, a decidedly NeoCon, new world Order, Globalist elite corporation, that’s why. So in essesense Glenn is serving Mammon, which means in this HE CAN NOT be SERVING _______?
Report Post »@Louise
I’m disappointed in a lot that Demint has done as a “so called” TP leader in congress, and this fence sitting is just adding to his baggage. Soon if he keeps this up, he will become entirely unpalatable .
MaGerkin
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:18amIn all fairness (and i am not a Ron Paul deciple), and only basing this on what i read in this article, Ron Paul did not lie. he said he wouldnt have killed Osama in the manner in which Obama did, not that he wouldnt have ordered his death.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:38amThat and Paul is a politician. We must not forget that. That means we do NOT trust him. We may like him but to trust any Politician is just un-American.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:35amPaul voted to go after OBL, he just thought it should have been handled like Israel did with Adolf Otto Eichmann
After the war, he fled to Argentina . He was captured by Mossad operatives in Argentina and taken to Israel to face trial in an Israeli court on 15 criminal charges, including crimes against humanity and war crimes. He was found guilty and executed by hanging.
Or the same as we did with Saddam Hussein
Report Post »rpa49
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:17amMr. Paul states very clearly and with explaination that he believes that it wasn’t necessary for the U.S. to have killed Bin Laden in a foreign country out of respect for the rule of our law and that of the international community. He says this clearly at 1:17 in the second clip during his interview on the radio channel. He also goes on to say that Osama was unarmed and that should have preventrd us from killing him at the end of the clip. The Paul supporters seem to have a difficult time understanding context.
Report Post »He also tries to compare the United Kingdom’s government with the currupt government of Pakistan. Would we have conducted a covert mission in London for the same reasons we did in Pakistan? The answer is no. The UK is one of our most trusted western allies. Pakistan is an unstable south-west Asian ally with a very large and powerful islamic extremist influence throught the country, which as it turned out had been hidding Bin Laden for nearly 5 years. Hell, let’s not forget that Osama had a $25 million bounty on his head, dead or alive. Not even that was enough for a single Pakistani to turn him over to us!
Ron Paul is a brilliant economist. I assume he is a good physician too. In today’s world of instantainious communication, the ability to rapidly move from one location to another, and the lethality of modern munitions, we just can’t trust Mr. Paul’s idea of foreign policy and the lack of a broad national security defensive perimeter.
nedinme
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:56amI agree with RPA49. I am afraid that the Blaze has put a very misleading headline on this story. I watched both videos twice and he did not say he approved of Obama’s handling of BinLaden. Hopefully when the Blaze News hour starts on GBTV, they will be a bit more honest in their reports.
Report Post »chisao101
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:36amNational security is non existent here in the US, as long as we are spread so thin. Did you hear what he said about the bases all over the world, how much money it takes to run them, how much money we have to borrow from China to keep them going, and how many bases we’ve had to close down here in our own country? I find it hard to believe that so many are dismissing the truth in what Dr. Paul is saying. It seems that most of this country, left and right, is completely mesmerized by the thought of going to countries all over the world and bombing the crap out of them just so we can hold on to pieces of OTHER PEOPLES’ countries. We can’t even get things right in our own country, and you guys are all gung ho about having our men and women die for someone else’s.
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:34amYou can not have any military power without economic power. Ron Paul will resore our economic power. And is probably the only one that can do it. If we do not elect him our dollar will collapse in short order and interest rates will skyrocket and we will have nothing. No military, No middle class, No savings, No freedom, and No liberty. Take your pick?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:07amThe debate last night was about as close to a rerun of the old ‘Gong Show’ as we might ever get in a debate. They always had some reasonably good acts on and at least one of the most horrible acts you’ll ever see on TV at that time. Ron Paul was that one horrible act again last night.
As in the old Gong Show, Jaye P. Morgan, Arte Johnson, Jamie Farr and other guest panel members would tease the audience while that one horrible act was getting booed by the audience and was begging… BEGGING… for the panel to give the bad act the gong and relieve them from the misery the bad act subjected them to.
Where was Chuck Barris when we needed him.
Rick Perry was right… A gong was needed, or maybe one of those big hooks yanking him off stage. Either way… it was a horrible act which was FUN to watch. Such was the Gong Show last night. Give Ron Paul some time… and he’ll be the Unknown Comic once again. GONG!!!!!
Report Post »Libtardism
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:52amDon’t be libtarded Paulbots,its unbecoming of you if someone lies man up and admit it.By trying to deny it you make yourself less credible like Kerry and Romney and all that have come before him he is a politician that lies “SHOCKING”!
Report Post »masters11111
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:59amYou must listened to the debate he said in the debate that he would of gone after bin ladin but in a different and after going through the sound bite that what he said.Why don.t whatch the video I posted all the way through and get some clarity
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:07amNewsflash:
The Federal Reserve being addressed: Important.
The Endless Wars bankrupting our country: Important.
Actual spending cuts: Important.
Restoring our fourth amendment: Important.
Osama Bin Ladins death? Not Important! Why, because him dead or alive will not save us if the dollar collapses and our civil liberties are gone.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:45amThe only way we are actually going to have a 4th and 10th amendment again is if Governors and state legislators man up. that is still where the power is, they just are asleep at the wheel. The states have most of the Constitutional power, the people, most of the military, the Nukes etc….. DO WE GET IT NOW? This is why if the states stood with the Constitution DC would back down and fall back into place.
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:52amHow about the Headline “Ron Paul would have handled the capture of Bin Laden differently”? Not as catchy and misleading but factually true. But hey we are about the truth on the “blaze of fire” here so definitely point to 2 minute sound bites and coincidently leave out that he voted for authorization to go after Bin Laden…..
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:46amThis site is a joke, make no mistake. Total neoconservative propaganda machine. Or is it Mitt Romney propaganada machine. Who knows.
Report Post »seaweaver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:04am(voice of Kaa) Yesssssss deyssss sssshould nevers sssssays anythings about paulsssssssss.
Report Post »I have only encounter similar people rabid for their candidate on the left.
justangry
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:19amYou all are starting to convince me. I still gotta believe GB’s a good guy overall, but there are so many misleading headlines, censored comments, and half truths that I’m beginning to have doubts.
Report Post »be free
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:51amWow perhaps Opelka should read what he just wrote …“he would not have ordered the bin Laden killed in the manner that President Obama did”….attention to detail, Opelka, attention to detail.
Report Post »Mike Opelka
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:01amThanks!
Report Post »ohiochili
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:48amReading/listening comprehension, Be Free…Reading/listening comprehension!
Report Post »Mr. Paul speaks of how we brought various terrorists to trial and convicted them. He questions if we would have taken helicopters into London if Osama had been hiding out there. He speaks of rule of law.
Now…if you put it all together, Paul dances around, dips and weaves, but talking about trials and ‘doing it a different way’ means he would not have ordered a killing.
Very much like ‘I was against it before I was for it’ or some such nonsense.
CATB has it right..you bots can dish it out but you can’t take it.
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:32am@OHIOCHILI
Report Post »The only reason Bin Laden was able to hide in Pakistan is because the Pakistan government was protecting him he was worth a lot in foreign aid. As for the “rule of law” I don’t think Pakistan has a rule of law.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:44amBehindBlueEyes
Report Post »That’s just an opinion, there is no evidence that Pakistan new of OBL where a bouts
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:42am@RECOVERINGNEOCON
Report Post »Sure, he‘s living in the immediate area of a Pakistani military complex and they don’t know he’s there?
Bin Laden was worth more alive and hidden to the Pakistani government than if he was dead.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:33amBehindBlueEyes
Report Post »again you have no proof? You can keep saying it, but doesn’t make it true.
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:06pm@RECOVERINGNEOCON
Report Post »It is in fact my opinion and I don‘t have any proof but that doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion. I can put 2 and 2 together in my head.
NOBALONEY
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:46amWho’s cares. DeMint wants hin to stay in the debates. Strange bedfellows. Demint is a sellout, alomg with Speaker Boehner, McConnell and the Senate Republicans. They all handed over the budget process to Obama last August! What are we doing? XL 60 day pipeline provision is a hoax! 16.2 trillion dollar deficit is a done deal! The UN is giving orders to NATO! The IMF, EU, and the FED are playing their own game of Monopoly! It’s over, before it even got started.
Report Post »Malcom0983
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:45amAnother hit piece by The Blaze.
Report Post »Where are the daily Romney flip flop articles and videos? There are tons but they would rather defend him than report on his many many flaws and create nonexistent flaws in Ron Paul.
He said that he wouldn’t have done it in the same way because he was unarmed and a few other considerations. If you expect people to believe that a veteran of the Vietnam War would not have done away with Bin Ladin if he couldn’t have been taken alive, you’re out of your mind.
This has truly become an online RINO rag.
bigspike
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:55amdoesn’t all that spinning make you dizzy?
the man LIED…he’s a politician; that’s what they do
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:42amBigspike…your brain refuses to listen to what your ears are hearing. The Neocons have polluted your mind into perpetual wars. But it will all end someday soon and our troops will be in 130 countries with no money to pay them or get them home…Then what genius????
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:03pm@ Mutiny < "So Paul says he would do it differently. Last night in the debate he tried to make a comparison with if a Chinese enemy was in our country would we allow or want China to conduct a raid on American soil to get their guy."
Apparently you are unfamiliar with the term dissident. That is someone who is against (vocally and/or actively) the policies/political government of their homeland. When a dissident enters the U.S. seeking asylum (e.g. Russians during the Cold War or Cubans fleeing Castro/Che Guevara) for protection from being persecuted by their own government is all together different from a person belonging to a terrorist group such as al-Qaeda. OBL was never considered a dissident by any country.
@ Baddogie < "OK lets see…You are in the middle of the deseret, no food or water…no one to help you…what do you do? Its the same thing when the dollar collapses. Our troops will be stranded. Some in ENEMY Countries. What will we do then?"
Report Post »I'm sure BALD STICK answered your question the best he could, so don't ignore it. National Oil Reserves are designated for military used in emergencies. The present and past POTUS have discharge this reserve for public usage in times of poor energy policies and/or national disaster, which is detrimental to military operational readiness. That said, the U.S. Armed Forces have the necessary supplies (fuel, transport, and supplies) to return home even in time of economic collapse. You don't go into any theater
christianUSA
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:38amOpinion: Thank you Blaze for this video comparison report; sadly but fairly this highlight Paul foreign and military handling problems. So we have one old befuddled Constitutionalist unable to comprehend nuclear defense and Islamic ideology OR and many big government refuse to show their resume types with various strange views or flip flop questionable positions going against a crafty socialist leaning fascist with powerful united backing; find this unsettling scary.
Report Post »jnpg
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:07amHey Christian- did you like the part where the crowd in SC booed the Golden Rule?! Yeah- nice bunch of blood-thirsty, kill first-ask questions later ‘Christians’. Frankly it is disgusting the way you Neocons love the killing. Sad, really. I am praying for you all!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:10pmThe reason the gulls booed when paul a christian- reminded them of the goldren rule is because these gulls have a new religion-americanism of the zionist agenda kind.they want genocide on arab/muslims and any humanizing of the ‘enemy’ is beyond their pale. They have been thoughly brainwashed by the zionist anti semitic[against arab/muslims this time] agenda. if their professed christianity does not serve that agenda they will toss it out [as they did in booing a basic christian tenet].
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:32amShades of Ross Perot?
Dr. Paul’s memory may be going the way of his foreign policy?
Report Post »chewfatlip
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:02amOr maybe like Perot’s running mate, Stockdale? Remember him?
Report Post »UnitedWeStand DividedWeFall
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:30amThis article is terrible. It is attempting to say that Ron Paul said he wouldn’t have ordered Bin Laden killed, but in the second sound clip he says he would have not done it in the way that it WAS done. At no point does he ever say that he would not have ordered the death of Bin Laden. And in the first sound clip its not clear what is even being said. Can I get more than a 30 second sound bite so maybe Ron Paul could finish speaking and maybe things could be a little more clear?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:00amNo you can’t. It’s against policy. It’s my way, or the highway!!!
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:24amLet see ….what fits best..
Report Post »Of all things that I have lost over the years …
I miss my mind the most..!
Or maybe….
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways…!
I’m not sure I can’t decide.. But then again ….
I’m not running for president.
jrmhrpr78
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:34amAll you morons are FOS. So is this article. Listen to what was said before you comment. He said he would not have done it the “same way”. He never said he would not have ordered it. He said he would have followed international law. This is yet another non isssue brought forward to slander the only canidate that is HONEST and logical. Its scary to me that so many of you so called christians keep calling for the killings of so many. How could you possibly not see the reality of your dangerous retoric? Ron Paul is the only man that can begin to restore this great nation. Study the man.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:05amFor people who jump on every little word of any other candidate .. you certainly can dish it out but not take it …
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 4:45pm@CatB
No, we simply can comprehend the fact that this hit piece took two separate issues, took them out of context, ignored Dr. Paul clear statement regarding the Letters of Marque, and then made a ridiculous claim.
Now your guy Santorum really did a fine job of exposing just what kind of constitution hating RINO whack job that he really is when he actually had the audacity to pathetically attempt to defend the NDAA that allows Obama to declare YOU a terrorist, send the military to arrest you with no official charges, no witnesses, no trial, and no release date.
Oh…one more point to make your RINO head spin…tell us, just what does it feel like to know that your views on foreign policy are much more in line with Obama, the majority of the Democrats, and the CFR, than they are with Jefferson, Washington, and Adams?
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
Report Post »masters11111
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:21amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U
Report Post »usmc1063
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:19amOkay does this mean Paul is talking out of both sides of his face? That is a simple fact that he should have remembered and stood by if he felt that way. This is just another example of Ron Paul’s inability to remain consistant in his ideals and commitments. In other words stand by your statements and don’t make it up as you go along.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:56amjust another cheap political hack
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:51amIf you watched those two videos in this article and still believe what you just wrote, I am ashamed to call you my countryman.
Report Post »May your chains rest lightly on you.
masters11111
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:17amA good portion of the population is behind Ron Paul and I am shocked. this is a man that for last 40 years has don his best to up-hold the constitution and here at the blaze you do nothing but print bad things about him.Mr beck if you are for this than maybe you are not the person you portrayed to be.I expect all people to be somewhat fowl able and here I search for news and always find negative stuff about Ron Paul.You don’t put any good things about him here and he has more integrity then all of the others combined.If this keeps up most likely you will loose all of your audience.Being sober I thing you know?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:33amWhat’s wrong with showing Ron Paul in his own words?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:42amI agree .. these Paul people are a lot like Obama people .. they do not believe anything bad even though it is shown right to them in the persons own words … wake up people.
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:53amBecause in his own words he didn‘t say he wouldn’t have ordered OBL’s killing. He said he would have done it differently. Open your eyes, and unclog your ears SHEEP.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:55am@CATB
Report Post »Your right about how Paul people seem to act like Obama people. Call me paranoid but I believe the Ron Paul campaign has been infiltrated by the left. There’s a lot of insidious stuff going on these days. They seem to have a cult like mentality.
Freedomluver
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:38pm@BehindBlueEyes
Let’s see, who‘s foreign policy regarding Iran virtually mirrors Obama’s, the Democrats, and the CFR? That would be the Neo-Cons, RINO’s, and yours…correct?
Who is for shutting down ALL of the unconstitutional branches of the Federal government…the RINO’s and the Democrats…or Ron Paul?
How on earth your can come to the ridiculous conclusions you spewed clearly demonstrates that you are completely blinded by mind numb propaganda.
Now tell us…just what does it feel like to be forced to admit that your foreign policy is much closer to that of Obama, the Democratic party, and the CFR than it is to the likes of Washington, Jefferson, and Adams?
Please…do tell.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 8:32am@FREEDOMLUVER you just proved my point about the mentality of Paul fanatics.
Report Post »carlylauren
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:15amI am all for Ron Paul’s small government, constitutional libertarian conservatism, but he contradicts himself constantly and can hardly complete a thought when it comes to foreign policy.
Report Post »Pacman116
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:35amAmen Carly!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:43amSecond that!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 6:38amHe started rambling badly and getting off topic like he does to avoid answering questions he knows he will get booed for answering truthfully………He got booed anyway!
Report Post »Beckaj
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 7:21amExactly. I love what he has to say about the Fed and spending, but he would be very scary to be Commander in Cheif. He is just too crazy to be president. A prime example would be to say 0% in taxes. It’s unfortunate that his cult-like follower refuse to see the objections people have to Paul or discuss things without attacking.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 8:44amHe didnt contradict himself. Did you listen to the audio of either? You are looking at the headline, listen to the audio, he clearly says he would have gotten OBL the same way we got KSM. All the while protecting our Constitution from infringements and respecting another countries borders.
How can anyone of you be mad at illegal aliens coming to our country? Think about what we are doing. We are the illegal aliens in other countries and we bring drones, bombs, and seal teams. Think if the Mexicans were doing that to us.
Report Post »Solfire
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:49amRon Paul voted to kill OBL, he just said that he would have handled the situation differently. He did not contradict himself and he did not want Bin Laden to get away. As much as Glenn is targeted by shady reporting, I‘m shocked that they’re doing it to Dr. Paul.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 12:10pmYeah he comes off that way. As a supporter I cringe every time they ask him a question and give him 60 seconds to respond. When you read his positions they aren’t so alarming. The best answer I’ve seen so far from any candidate, regarding foreign policy was when Herman Cain, said he didn‘t know what he would do because he wasn’t privy to the information the commander in chief had. I think that’s important. None of the candidates have the information that Obama has right now. The one thing I do admire about RP’s policy, at least in terms of Iraq and Afganistan, is it’s largely based on reports from the experts. Sure he’s an idealogue at the moment. They all are because they don’t really have all the facts they would as president. I think the one thing to consider is, if RP’s foreign policies are largely based on reports from the experts now, what makes anyone think he WOULD NOT listen to his military advisors once elected.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:50pm@beck
Crazy huh, 0 income tax. Well that is how it used to be before the progressives got into office in 1913. Oh and if you cut the spending overseas it can happen. By the way, you also were not listening to the question I guess. The question was what it the lowest income tax you would “want”.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:53pmRational Man
He started rambling badly and getting off topic like he does to avoid answering questions he knows he will get booed for answering truthfully………He got booed anyway!
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What………………..Paul got booed, hehehe he certainly did get booed.
Report Post »For you Paulbots I understand there a box car load of tear rags on the way for y’all. wuhahahahaha
Malachai
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:44pmIt’s amazing how people can blatantly just make things up like saying Ron Paul contradicts himself. You can argue with RP on a lot of things, but contradicting himself is NOT one of them.He has been one of if not the most consistent person in Washington for decades. This piece is just another example of garbage “journalism” trying to cherry pick and misquote statements to make it seem like it double-talked when he really didn’t.
Can’t complete a thought on foreign policy? Seriously? Are you reading off a sheet? What part of “Stop nation building, stop picking fights, and protect our own borders” is confusing for you?
Report Post »grannyrecipe
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:13amI‘m not necessarily a Ron Paul fan but he wasn’t saying that he wouldn’t have “got” Bin Laden, he’s saying he would have done it differently. I actually think that Rick Perry is doing better and better in the debates…I’m liking him a lot.
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 10:40amAs a Paul fan, I would say that Rick Perry is the candidate up there who sounds the most like Dr. Paul, even though he isn‘t and never will be on Paul’s level. And it doesn’t take much to sound more like Congressman Paul than the rest of these guys. The fact that he talks about abolishing 3 departments is at least a start. Which of the other candidates is talking about abolishing any departments besides Paul and Perry? I also think it‘s kinda funny when Perry is about to crack some sort of joke or a zinger and you can see it on his face he looks like he’s about to laugh at his own joke before he’s finished telling it, like a little kid, kind of endearing haha.
All that said, South Carolina is Perry’s last gasp. If he does poorly he is surely out of the race and it will be down to the 3 amigos for big government and Ron Paul. Paul and Romney will be in it until the end. It’s only a matter of whether Gingrich and Santorum will ever step aside. One of them will, leaving the other as the supposed alternative to Romney, while Paul, despite having more delegates, will be portrayed by the media and establishment talk radio as the 3rd wheel with no chance who is staying in the race just to get his message out.
Report Post »quicker
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:09amWell it is tough getting old. If you sleep the night before you forget everything.
Report Post »Love_John_Galt
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 9:19amRon Paul forgets more in a day than most people learn during their entire life.
Last night was not his best debate, but his message will never change – Constitution – Personal Responsibility – Small Government. History has proven time and time again that societies with these principles succeed, all others eventually fail. Unfortunately, Americans are confirming they can’t (or won’t) learn simple lessons from history, therefore we will continue to repeat our mistakes.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:56amGlenn is a rodeo clown, remember? his words not mine. a rodeo clown has the job of being a distraction but who, is being distracted?
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