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Ron Paul: Elizabeth Warren Is a ‘Socialist,‘ Public Schooling Is a ’Socialist Idea’

Ron Paul: Elizabeth Warren is

In an ABC News/Yahoo! News interview Tuesday, Republican presidential candidate Texas Rep. Ron Paul took a few jabs at Keynesian economics, a Massachusetts senate candidate, and one of our society’s keystone institutions.

After interviewer Terry Moran read a controversial quote from Massachusetts U.S. Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, that “there is nobody in this country who got rich on his own,” Rep. Paul said Warren was wrong “because she is a socialist.” When asked about Warren’s comments on public education and whether public schooling is socialism, Rep. Paul said “In a way. When the state runs things, that is you know, a socialist idea, that it should be collective. I preach homeschooling and private schooling and competition in school.”

Rep. Paul went on to point out that what Warren forgets in her argument on the social contract is that the money had to come from “productive effort.”

“She‘s saying that it’s from the government? Who’s the government? The government created nothing,” said Rep. Paul. “The only thing they can do is steal, and rob people with a gun, and forceable transfer wealth from one person to another. ”

In regards to taxes on the wealthy and millionaires, Rep. Paul made a point to acknowledge where he may be distinct among other Republicans.

“I’m pretty critical of the wealth of lots of millionaires and billionaires because they ripped us off, they got the benefits and the tax breaks,” Paul said.

 

When asked if he would run for President on a third party ticket, Rep. Paul said “I have no plans to do that” and “I don’t want to.”

In a light-hearted question at the interview’s end, Rep. Paul said the happiest moment in his life, aside from his wedding day and the birth of his children, was when he first opened his medical practice after years of hard-work and schooling.

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  • circleDwagons
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:08pm

    CAIN / PAUL 2012 if not paul who? the South will raise CAIN

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Just switch that around to Paul/Cain and we may be OK. Could they have picked out a more disgusting pic of Paul? My oh my. I hope that the majority of voters have learned their lesson on Rock Star voting and pay no attention to the grey. I am grey and am told I look distinguished.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Before you even say it –

      “I like Ron Paul, except for his foreign policy”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqdH6y4-8xU

      Here’s another good one:
      The Southern Avenger, Jack Hunter compares the GOP candidates and their stance regarding Israel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrfo4Akww0I

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:45pm

      I do want to introduce myself, I am a Patriot living on the west coast of Oregon and am a Tea Party member who believes in Ron Paul. I have never looked at Paul in the past but because of the dire shape our country is in because of Progressive policies over the last 100 years, I believe he will do his best to set things right for our country. I do, however look at Newt and possibly Cain for a VP and would vote for either of these two if they happen to get the nomination, but I still believe Paul would be the best.

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    • Founding Father2
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:47pm

      Though he is right here, he is the most arrogant candidate we have. It is always about himself. He knows best. I will say he know how to get the almost fanatic supporters. Wow.

      Cain is part of the tick I agree with, but they have already said they would never join forces, they hate each other more than any two candidates, even Romney and Perry don’t come close. It’s probably because Paul knows best.

      Did you see that Karl Rove said Gloria Allred gave credibility to the new accuser… that is a laugh and a half: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/rove_allred_credibility.html

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:52pm

      Either Paul and Palin, THey are both Libertarians..both Constitutionalists…or Ron and Rand Paul..Is that legal? Or Paul and Romney..Romney has said that Paul is right.. So many options…man…the cain train has no sense of humor…at alll!

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Welcome to the Blaze, West Coast Patriot! Good to meet you!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:03pm

      Thank you for the welcome, I only hope I can do some good by posting on here. I have been reading posts in other stories and am appalled at some of the mean name calling that goes on here. I know the country is divided more than anytime I can remeber, but with good cause. We are teetering on the edge of complete collapse and if somthing is not done soon, we may all be in terrible trouble.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:04pm

      Herman Cain Supporters, What are the 5 stages of the loss process?
      Stage 1: Denial <———–
      Stage 2: Bargaining
      Stage 3: Anger
      Stage 4: Despair
      Stage 5: Acceptance

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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:06pm

      Paul wouldn’t touch “I supported TARP” Cain with a ten foot pole. PAUL/SCHIFF 2012

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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:14pm

      Another spin piece by the Blaze. Look at the horrible picture that they use for this article. Then they take his line about rich out of context. He said he is for the productive rich, just not the ones who go after the bailouts.

      The government needs to get out of our way. Schooling, roads, healthcare, would all be much better without government influence.

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:15pm

      While I generally like the guy he needs to avoid interviews when his mediation is low. The government provided both the incentives and investment that created the majority of the infrastructure most Americans take for granted. The fact that they contracted with the private sector does not change the fact the railroads, highways, airports, hospitals, majority of schools, etc. would not have been built in a manner to serve the vast majority of Americans if it was left up to the private sector. For example it is well known that an agreement between the government and ATT was necessary to construct the phone network within the US. It is interesting to note that private companies are seeking to purchase existing highways from state for pennies on the dollar, rather than build then build new ones. Point being the majority of roads would never have been built.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Welcome West Coast Patriot..a pleasure to meet you…There are many who are in love with Cain…I have liked his candidness..but I worry about some other issues such as he was chairman of the Federal Reserve..it has been said that he ran it. and did not want it audited.. but the most troubling to me is his 9-9-9 That is something that bears looking into. OP Willie said we don’t understand it..so I educated myself on it…This should help if you are not sure.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q1R6VQMZCU

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    • Midwestgirl1116
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

      Well Howdy doodie Mr. West Coast~did not think anybody living out there was a conservative. LOL. I am from Oregon but now live in great state of Kansas. Now we gotta somehow get my Mom on the right side of things. :))

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:21pm

      @JM_MILLER “Paul wouldn’t touch “I supported TARP” Cain with a ten foot pole. PAUL/SCHIFF 2012″
      Ooh!!! JM-MILLER …I L I K E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • ofarrell
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:26pm

      JMiller… Paul/Schiff? I never thought of that, but THAT would be FANTASTIC!!! I love that Jack Hunter, too, though ;)

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:30pm

      ashestoashes ur funny. not understanding 999. we have to see how all thse allegations shake out. yes I like CAIN for many reasons. I‘ve followed Paul since ’88, my dad as been a great supporter heck he problably is one of these paulbots on th blaze. paul needs to break the 9% polling

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    • ofarrell
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:30pm

      HOWDY WEST COAST! I’m from Washington state, but in Montana now. I just came out of the neocon haze this this last summer and am with Paul all the way!!! GLENN BECK MADE ME DO IT! LOL! Anyways glad to have you on here and hopefully will be seeing you around :)

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:36pm

      Paul under the right conditions could turn this nation around in 4 years and re-establish state soveriegnty to the point where it would take another 100 years to progressively bring us back to here.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:38pm

      @Vechorik,

      So conservative socialism is ok, but liberal-socialism bad?

      Why do you think it is okay for the US government to collect tax and redistribute it to other countries (foreign aide) who “need” it? It is the same premise as the US government collecting tax for people who need welfare, subsidies, exemptions, benefits et al.

      Having principle is all about being consistent in your philosophy. End ALL foreign aide.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:41pm

      Libertarian, I’m voting for Dr. Paul. He wants to END ALL FOREIGN aid.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:42pm

      Right on Mr. Paul!

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:52pm

      @Vechorik,

      My apologies, I shouldn’t assume. Thought you were coming from the point of view of many, which is that they don’t like his foreign policy on aide to Israel.

      Take care

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Now way Ron Paul would run with Herman Cain. They have nothing in common at all so that idea is out the window. If you support the Federal Reserve you don’t support TEA. The Federal Reserve causes high taxes, so you cannot support something you are protesting. 

      Ron Paul is right on. Keep speaking truth Ron and thank you for your hard work of trying to restore our country. 

      Ron Paul says he has not given any thought to a 3rd party and that he does not want to, but he did not say he wouldn’t. Keep that in mind. If Romney gets the nomination many will beg for another party. 

      We can always email the article author over the picture they chose. Just a thought. At least the Blaze wrote an article over Paul and it shows up under politics! 

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:07pm

      Hello West Coast Patriot…I too live on the west side of Oregon…we conservatives in Oregon need to stick together…with the way Portland and Salem are ran…not to mention Eugene…feel like I live in lalaland……jeez.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Oh yeah…our school system is so corrupt…hense why I homeschool!

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:10pm

      BRO Cain is a Federal Reserve insider. What u just said will never happen.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:14pm

      There ya go folks.
      Yet Another Ron Paul Video hidden from the public.
      Freaking puppets. This has got to stop… 1984 anyone?

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:38pm

      Thank the LORD so many are waking up and looking into Dr. Paul, even if they are still on the fence!

      Thanks for keeping an open mind, the advent of the internet has made it easier for us to properly vet these candidates and we all must do so.

      BLAZErs, that pic IS a smear on Dr. Paul. Your no better then the MSM if you play into this tactic and I hope you change your tune.

      ON EDUCATION:
      PLEASE READ: The deliberate dumbing down of America, search for it ITS FREE online, and also amazons #1 seller on the history of education. Youll be shocked at what you never knew and look at the ‘indoctrination centers’ differently. Ignorance is NOT bliss, and what you dont know is hurting your kids!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:53pm

      (fellow) LIBERTARIAN, “So conservative socialism is ok, but liberal-socialism bad?”

      Isn’t it interesting how the desease of socialiwsm works? It even makes those who (appear to) thwart it, embrace it’s basic symptoms.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:02pm

      Thanks all for the welcome. Now let’s have adult discussions on the issues and figure out who the best candidate is. I will be a voice for Ron Paul. Don’t come back with name calling, but come back with what you disagree with him on and what you believe is good about your candidate and let’s debate the issues.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:02pm

      Founding Father… You must support Romney right? So does Romney believe he is wrong about a lot of things? I don’t really understand your beef with someone thinking they are right… isn’t that why anyone runs for a political position?… because they think their views are right?

      You have to look at someone’s record to see if they actually know what they are talking about. Ron Paul, and other Austrian economists have been accurately predicted booms and busts for decades. Romney, on the other hand, thought Romneycare would lower health care costs in MA, but now their costs are increasing over 40% faster than the rest of the country! He also supported TARP and wants to shove an executive order down our throats to start a trade war with China! Study up on Smoot-Hawly to see what these protectionist policies will do to the economy.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:12pm

      What’s with the carefully-picked picture of Ron Paul to make him look angry?

      Somebody mad that Ron gets to look at that area as a professional regularly while Herman tries to force his hand?

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    • NormaNv
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:38pm

      That really is a bad Photo.. I make that face when I am watching what this administration is doing, I am saying “Gherrrrr dirty commies” and making that face way to often
      I wonder if Dr Paul will find a place for Tom Woods in his cabinet?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:49pm

      @V-MAN MACE He’s about to completely rip apart the agenda of this Progressive Government with the message of limited Government and individual Liberty that resonates with every common man. He will bite into the very heart of Liberalism and put an end to it once and for all with every word of the federal Constitution. He will fiercely look down onto the enemy with those eyes filled with the truth of God and tell him that tyrant’s shall no longer bear rule over the American people, for we have always Governed ourselves. The sleepy giant has awaken, the silent majority has spoken, the brushes of fire are burning and the spirit of liberty is alive and well in the hearts and minds of the people. The restoration of our Constitutional Republic is under way. Faith, Courage and Honor.

      God and America! http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/america.html

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    • NoMarxist
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:13pm

      CAIN / GINGRICH.. That’s who!!

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    • endgamer
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:42pm

      Ron Paul / Peter Schiff 2012

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    • danbeaulieu
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:06pm

      Ron Paul speaks the truth… unlike everyone else

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:24pm

      i love Ron Paul’s faces when they are mad like that. I am just as disgusted and upset at the way we’ve been cleaning up in the bathroom with The Constitution. We are squashing every last ounce of liberty and freedom in this world.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:26pm

      Cain/Paul would be OK by me. No establishment. The establishment caused the mess. They cannot be trusted to fix the mess. We The People will have to fix the mess if it is to be fixed. No one else will period.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:46pm

      A Ron Paul/Peter Schiff ticket would be the first genuine constitutional opportunity our country would have had in 150 years.

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    • Jeff65
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:13pm

      @Patrick Henry II

      I appreciate you including of the Doc, but . . . Cain not establishment?

      He thought Greenspan was a good Fed chairman. He uses the globalist Kinsenger for advise on foreign affairs. He supported Tarp (just not it’s implementation – as if there is any good implementation). He is upset with Paul wanting to end big government program —- Cain wants to fix them instead instead. He mocking people for wanting to audit the Fed — then he lied about doing so and insulted Dr. Paul when Dr. Paul asked Cain about it.

      I could go on, but I think I probably already went farther than you want me to go. But considering the above, do you think they would be a good match?

      To help me out, could you give me one thing that you think Cain offers over Ron Paul? This may help me understand where you are coming from.

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    • jordan2
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:40pm

      In reply to the posts about Israel, I say either require Israel to give up their 300 nuclear weapons or give half to Iran. It nukes are a deterrent, then let’s make it fair. Then we should withdraw all aid to Israel. I am tired of them being treated so special when a large part of the world sees things differently.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:53am

      Welcome West Coast Patriot! Very happy to have another Ron Paul supporter on the Blaze. We need more like you here.
      For all those who have said something about that horrid photo chosen to headline the article, can I please suggest you write an email to Mr Santarelli and ask him to take it down. I just did. I also said that the Blaze staff need to stop using Alsinky tactics against Ron Paul since there are obviously many of his supporters here on the Blaze. The more email Mr Santarelli gets, the quicker we may be able to have that pci taken down.
      To email him, click his name and it will take you to a new page where you can click ‘email’, then tell him how you feel.
      Thanks!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 8:49am

      Maybe Paul should remind the interviewer that
      1 A business pays a lot more tax than an idividual
      2 Not only does the business pay taxes the owner pays a seperate tax if they issue themselves a salary
      3 Not only does the business and the owner pay taxes but it also pays taxes on the people it hires
      4 Not only does the business pay taxes the onwer pays taxes and it pays taxes on the people it hire it also creates more tax payers in the people it hires. People who would otherwise be on welfare or some other tax subsidized program.
      5 Not only does the business pay taxes,the owner pays taxes,it pays taxes on the people it hire and the people it hires pays taxes,iT ALSO PAYS TAXES ON THE FUEL IT USES IN THE COMPANY VEHICLES,AND DIESEL IS THE CHEAPEST FUEL TO CREATE WITH THE LARGEST TAX ON IT BECAUSE MOST COMAPNIES USE DEISEL MACHINES AND TRANSPORTATION, IT ALSO PAYS TAXES ON THE PROPERTY IT OWN
      So if anyone has a right to using highways and hire people who attended a public indoctrination education it the people who pay the most and do the most to preserve the American dream
      EFFING PRIVATE BUSINESS
      He should also remind him that teachers,police,fireman,government officals and military all use the highways,public schools and don’t pay a single dime towards them as their income is paid through taxes.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 10:16am

      endgamer
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:42pm
      Ron Paul / Peter Schiff 2012

      I must admit, this ticket sounds AWESOME.

      I think I was calling for this ticket months ago… I’ve always been a follower of Peter Schiff…

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:32pm

      @JRook,

      “While I generally like the guy he needs to avoid interviews when his mediation is low. The government provided both the incentives and investment that created the majority of the infrastructure most Americans take for granted.”

      That’s the lie that has been fed to us for some time. It’s actually government that causes all of our economic problems when it tries to intervene in the economy. For example, government is the source of monopolies, not Capitalism.

      The government is not a market player, so it is impossible for it to make economic decisions – it can only make politically motivated decisions by favoring one group at the expense of another. Whereas in a free market, where all trade is voluntary, all trade participants benefit from increasingly better and cheaper goods.

      But right now we don’t have a free market; We have a regulated, redistributional, and corporatist market.

      See here.

      Anti-Trust and Monopoly (with Ron Paul)
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4gRRk2i-M

      And here.

      The Truth About the “Robber Barons”
      http ://mises.org/daily/2317

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  • knighttemplar999
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:08pm

    I did a google image search for Ron. There is a picture of him with darker hair. It’s not too late, dye your damn hair dark Ron, it will double your support. You just don’t have “the look”.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:16pm

      How sad is this post?

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:22pm

      knighttemplar999
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:08pm
      dye your damn hair dark Ron, it will double your support. You just don’t have “the look”.
      ============================================================

      Well…..that settles it then…..

      I‘m gonna’ vote for Mitt Romney then simply because Bill O’Reilly says that he just “looks presidential”! (LOL!)

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    • smokie
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:34pm

      It’s not the hair, it’s his followers.
      I’ve had it with pro OWS, anti-Jewish windbag hippies ending their screed with “Ron Paul 2012”.
      I understand the man is not his fans, but I’m not sure I want a candidate supported b cellar dwellers.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:46pm

      “Thomas Jefferson once said, ‘We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.’ And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying.” Ronald Reagan

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:07pm

      knighttemplar999 googled Ron Paul’s hair.
      Heaven help the GOP election. LOL
      I hope you Googled some other things about Ron Paul as well.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:15pm

      yes, lets vote for the best looking hollywood actor! That is the Wisest logic ever!

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:44pm

      @ Smokie,

      Boy are you one messed up individual. You are willing to throw away this nation’s best chance at returning to a Constitutional Republic over the fact that some people who take part in the OWS movement also wish to return the nation to the same by voting for Mr. Paul. Would it suprise you to know that I am a Marine Corps veteran who knows how to bathe myself, provide for myself, and is pro-capitalist and free-market and I am going to vote for Ron Paul? Do you know that Ron Paul’s supporters come from a diverse number of backgrounds but the employer of the people who support him the most is the Department of Defense? Look it up and you will see that the lionshare of Paul’s campaign contributions come from servicemembers and veterans. Compare this to anyone else‘s record and you’ll be suprised.

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    • Jeff65
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:22pm

      @Smokie

      RP supports are willing to get in the mix and put up a fight against socialism at the OWS just like the Oath Keepers. You can sit back if you want and just call other Amercans names, but I’m proud of the RP supporters at OWS trying to educate the uneducated and brainwashed OWS people. Some of them have run into serious conflicts with these guys, but they are still willing to keep fighting for the constitution and the freedom of the country.

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    • martinez012577
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 10:03am

      He is running for president, not next top model. I do understand what you are saying though. People dont like his look or the sound of his voice. If he looked like romney he would have been elected years ago and we wouldnt be even talking about this.

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:04pm

    A government such as the U.S which has so much Social structure and has had it for a very, very, very long time, deserves to have Socialists running it.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:18pm

      Google “Elizabeth Warren” and Eliasim comes running to defend her.

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    • UrbanCombatSurvivor
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:42pm

      As a punishment to this generation for the poor defense of freedom from prior generations?

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:03pm

    Constitution liberty – only human on earth who can save the world. Lord of lords and king of kings. Never once changed his underwear in 30 years. Everybody is a neocon!!!!!!

    Rod Pull 1947!!!

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:13pm

      Now qpwillie, that wasn’t very nice. Was it? Hope you watched the video.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:25pm

      I see our favorite Cainsian has made his way in… It looks like he‘s also proving to be a hypocrite by making critical comments on articles which aren’t about the candidate he supports (while he criticizes those who would dare to do such a thing on a Cain article). He’s also being very tricky by not mentioning that he supports Cain! How dare you practice freedom of speech in such abhorrent ways QP!

      I must admit that you are very consistent at making comments that are strictly nonsensical and empty… such consistency shows that you should be taken seriously!!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Have you really looked at Ron Pauls views? I, for one, think he has the best idea’s out of all the candidates. I have noticed that some call Ron Paul supporters Paulbots and worse. Is that really necessary? I mean everyone has their own opinion, mine happens to lean toward Ron Paul. His beliefs strike me as pretty close to the Founding Fathers and I think we should think seriously about going back to what made our country great in the first place. I do not understand all the anger generated toward this Patriot. Wasn’t Paul the person who started the Tea Party with references to the Boston Tea Party when he ran in the past?

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:28pm

      West Coast Patriot,
      I don’t have a problem with anybody supporting their favorite candidate. That‘s not what’s going on with the Paulies. They are swarming in on every forum on the internet slamming and trashing EVERYBODY who doesn’t happen to be Ron Paul. They will happily help 0bama get reelected to punish everybody who doesn’t support Ron Paul and most of them are not ashamed to tell you so.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:43pm

      Funny QP, as that is what you yourself are doing… I can’t speak for all “Paulies” but I am trying to get people to think about the issues that the other candidates have. I don’t call names, although I know some Paul fans do… you have no room to speak on this, by the way, because that is all I see you doing. I bring up issues like TARP, 9-9-9-9, pro-choice, etc about Cain so perhaps people will think twice before throwing their support towards him… I’m open for educated discussion about these issues. Unfortunately all I get from you and many other Cain supporters is name calling and nonsense remarks (although some can carry on intelligent debates). You seem to avoid talking about any important issues or trying to back up your candidate with facts or even partially cogent arguments.

      Having said that, you are free to say whatever you’d like… but the hypocrisy, the name calling, and the crude comments are frankly quite childish. You are not helping Cain’s support, just like “Paulbots” don’t help RPs support by name calling and disparaging.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:46pm

      Just ignore QP “Willie” she’s just a hater….

      QP “Willie” doesn’t have the integrity to say she agrees with Ron Paul, maybe because QP “Willie” is a socialists IDK, and instead just tries to antagonize Ron Paul supporters. QP “Willie” shows her age with every post she makes…Just ignore her….

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:47pm

      qpwillie…….. like YOU swarmed into a Ron Paul discussion with slander? Pot calling kettle…….

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:56pm

      The first time any of you see me threatening to help 0bama get reelected because you won’t support a certain candidate, let me know.

      I will vote for whichever candidate gets the nomination because I know what 0bama is.

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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:06pm

      qp,

      We aren‘t threatening to support obama if you don’t support our candidate. We, very simply, will only vote for someone who will reduce the role of government. No TARP, No Bailouts, CUT SPENDING, reduce taxes, ending no bid government contracts etc. Paul is the only candidate that has and will represent those things, so he is the only one we would be willing to vote for. If you can point to another candidate that stands for those things, you will convince many a Paul supporter to support that person if Paul is not the nominee. But we have looked into all the other candidates and they either have flip flopped, or have shown no plans that look promising on these matters.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:15pm

      … I would gladly vote for Gary Johnson or Ron Paul.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:16pm

      qpwillie — we’re working toward the NOMINATION. Hope you are too. I really don’t want to vote for Romney.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:45pm

      jmiller_42,
      Oh, don’t tell me that. I have a whole collection of Paulies from different forums threatening to help 0bama get reelected. I mean direct threats of voting for him and writing him in for the stated purpose of helping him get reelected.

      I‘m not talking about the few people who just agree with most of Paul’s policies. I’m talking about the people who try to monopolize every forum, posting off topic comments about how everybody else is trash.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:57pm

      QP- Careful, your socialist hypocracy is showing.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:58pm

      I am back for a short while, had to go and make a sale so I can keep my family fed.
      QP, I think that voting is a Constitutional right that is personal with everyone. If we as voters do not vote our conscience, and just follow the masses, we do injustice to ourselves. I have found that most people vote party lines and I do not believe that does justice to our voting system. I am registered as a Republican, but have Libertarian views. I would vote for a Democrat if that candidate was for Constitutional principles and the opponent was a Republican with Progressive views. You have to research each candidate and decide who you think the best candidate is for the present state of affairs that we are in. Ron Paul just seems, to me, to have the right ideas to stop the Progressive policies as long as we give him a Congress that will work with him. It takes both.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:14pm

      QP… I seriously think you are lying… please direct us towards these articles where Paul supporters are saying they’ll support Obama. You are arguing that they won’t vote for a republican out of principle, but they would vote for Obama? When he is 10x less principled than any GOP candidates. I’ve never seen this view and I am in a lot of Paul circles. If you truly saw these comments it was from a kook who should definitely not be projected as a spokesperson for all Paul supporters.

      That is comparable to me going into another thread and claiming that all Cain supporters think in the same ridiculous ways that you do. I honestly don’t think that most Cain supporters are as vile and uninformed as you (although I’ve seen many name callers).

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    • ofarrell
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:51pm

      Hey QP, got a question for ya… if Romney did happen to get the nod and Paul did decide to run against a neocon as an independent who would you support? The neocon, Obama or Paul? Because the truth is, is that the Tea Party *should* rally behind Paul… Paul would easily pick up Reagan Dems and Indies and a large chunk of the GOP (the ones against Romney) and he could win that way too. I know this is completely hypothetical since Paul doesn’t want to do it, just curious.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:03pm

      WONDERFUL VIDEO TO UNITE US (dedicated to qp)

      Can the Tea Party and Libertarians unite?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhzTzvmEf-A

      Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Rand Paul talk with Judge Andrew Napolitano
      I think they can!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:08pm

      VECHORIC- “Can the Tea Party and Libertarians unite?” anyone who isn’t a socialist should stand up to the plotting and scheming of the totalitarianists, both among us and abroad.

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    • resme
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:25pm

      I hope Ron Paul runs as a third party. Would serve all these so-called conservatives right for snarling at him. It would be the repubs fault for not taking advantage of Ron Paul. He could easily get the independent vote, repubs vote, and his strong supporters which is like 15%-20%.

      Ron Paul 2012. Yes, I’m a Ron Paul kook.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:29pm

      @QPWily You know we love ya QP…it’s just that we see America has already had a wreck. and we are deparate to get her back> Look at Ron Paul…he’s not a looker…but he is a Constitutionalist. We were founded the Constitution under God and Jesus Christ..We have fallen so far.. we need it back again..That is what we are defending..Please understand..we are fighting for us all.. If you look at Cain’ 999 you will see that the uber rich make out lilke bandits.. while the middle class and the poor suffer the burden..Now if you are uber rich..then Cain might be your man..But seriously look at 999. That could finish us off..Don’t you find the going back to the Constitution enticing at all?

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    • Jeff65
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:37pm

      @QPWILLIE

      If you don’t want Obama to win then stop being a stick in the mud and vote for Ron Paul and get all your friends and family to do the same.

      If any of the others get in, they will only get Republican votes and some Indepentent, but Ron Paul will get Republican, Independent, and Democrat voters. Why should Ron Paul voters vote for someone that others THINK “has the best chance”. Let’s vote on what is right for once and let the chips fall where they may.

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  • IndyNWguy
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:01pm

    It’s not like Ron Paul takes many “flattering” pics, but seriously Blaze?

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:32pm

      lol. It’s so comical.. The Blaze and the Lamestream Neo-Con Jewish Media.. What a joke.

      Regardless Dr. Paul is not entirely correct here.. While Warren is obviously a Socialist, public schooling was hyped by Karl Marx himself.. Knowing that if they could take the children away from the parents they could brainwash them anyway the State desired.. I‘m not sure he was the intial proponent of Public Schooling but it’s certainly one of his aims in his Manifesto.

      If you don’t believe that Public schooling is Marxist just look at what it has produced in America.. lol My Founding Fathers would not recognize their country now.. Not even close and what’s so sad is the fact that if we were to actually restore Liberty and the Constitutional principles which were founded upon, most on the Blaze would kick scream and holler bloody murder!!! lol

      We are all good little Marxist now but we still get pufffed up when one says it openly…

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    • Joey8
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:00pm

      tech do you realize what you do to Ron Paul’s image when you label everything you dont like as “Jewish”? If you want to really support Paul, hide in your basement and vote when the time comes, just quit ruining his image with your garbage here

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:13pm

      Our public school system is based on the Prussian model. That’s National Socialist, or Nazi.

      So yes, he is 100% correct.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:29pm

      Agreed. I have been calling the public school system a socialist conditioning program for a very long time.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Joey8: Well I realize it‘s an issue no one wants to discuss but it’s really unavoidable. Pretty hard to overlook their practically complete control of all Media wouldn’t you say?

      Even Dr. Paul can’t even advocate his America first foreign policy without being labeled an anti-Semite.. Each and every time he says abolish the Fed he’s called an anti-Semite and when he speaks candidly on immigration he’s once again labeled a xenophobe by their Media which desires to do away with borders period.…

      So Joey8 I realize that it’s not comfortable speaking of Jewish Supremacy in America but how is one to overlook the 10 thousand lb elephant in the living room? Play pretend? lol Seriously? How would you advise that these issues be addressed?

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:29pm

      This_Individual, you’re right!

      Dumbing-down of America
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:02pm

      TECH- ” The Blaze and the Lamestream Neo-Con Jewish Media.. What a joke. ”

      Posted like a true socialist. A socialist can only think in generalizations and demonize a whole group of people on baseless accusations.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:32pm

      TECH- ” The Blaze and the Lamestream Neo-Con Jewish Media.. What a joke. ”

      Posted like a true socialist. A socialist can only think in generalizations and demonize a whole group of people on baseless accusations.

      Baseless accusations? Are you serious? I’ve spent over a year here on the Blaze trying to educate and open the eyes of the Conservative to the wicked Jewish Apartheid reigning in America today..

      Why would any person make a baseless accusation? Much less an engineer who’s at a minimum has had to prove that they are capable of a rigorous analysis.. I’ve done the homework and if you are interested in the truth I can load you up with facts.. If you‘re just another useful idiot or if you are Jewish I understand that you don’t want the truth but if you’re interested in truth and facts let me know..

      One last note about generalizations…
      95% of African Americans voted Dem in last election vs 90% typically. I generalize and state that African Americans lean toward the Democratic Party… Are you willing to tell me that the Generalization has no correlation or merit??? lol

      Furthermore I bet you have no problem with the Generalization that smoking causes cancer?? lol Not everyone that smokes gets cancer but generally smoking leads to cancer?? Do you understand the Generalization?

      You’re just a useful idiot are you? A sheep to be led around by Beck and FOX?

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:00pm

    Good grief Blaze. That was the best pic you had? Spin much?

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Why shouldn’t Socialist control government. Americas been a Socialism from the very first moment that the government of the people absorbed the bad debt of the very first bankruptcy in the nation a long long long time ago.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Besides, since people say they are so spiritual, then Socialism should be a walk in the park as they escape to the mountains of their mind.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Socialism isn’t just a one-way street for corporations to use to their convenience whenever they get into financial trouble and they use the bankruptcy side of socialism. Two-way street.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:16pm

      Eliasim. I believe in freedom of speech, but your dreams of socialism aren’t what America is about. How about let’s get back to the Constitution. Every attempt at socialism has failed (ask the Soviet Union).

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    • Dolus
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:45pm

      @ Vechorik… “Every attempt at socialism has failed (ask the Soviet Union). ”

      China seems to be doing quite well, and they are projected to have the #1 economy in 20 years… and we are knee deep in debt to them. Please if you make a statement about an absolute (like whether or not socialism has ever worked) you can’t just select facts that suit you.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:55pm

      @Dolus China is succeeding because it has adapted Capitalism and to some extent America’s past Industrial Revolution.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:10pm

      Dolus, China is doing well — SINCE IT ALLOWED CAPITALISM! (Jeesh!)

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    • Dolus
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:10pm

      True it has adopted SOME capitialistic policies, but I would speculate that it is still considered a socialist country. nothing is ever 100% one thing or another. Another point how come the world‘s most successful businessmen having some of the world’s most coveted franchises turn towards socialism to run their collective franchises ? The NFL with revenue sharing , salary caps… is just that . http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1160318/index.htm
      So my point is simply to say blanket statements like socialism has always failed isn’t true… well my opinion.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

      I think these trolls googled Elizabeth Warren and socialist, Dolus and Eliasim came to help Enicom stick up for their hero (not kidding).

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    • libsaredumb
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:00pm

      I would certainly hope China could be productive with 1 BILLION SLAVES! I’m a little partial to liberty.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:47pm

      DOLUS- “China seems to be doing quite well, and they are projected to have the #1 economy in 20 years… and we are knee deep in debt to them. Please if you make a statement about an absolute (like whether or not socialism has ever worked) you can’t just select facts that suit you.”

      Ask a Chinese citizen what they think about their government, and there response will be just as the government would like them to answer (if you asked in public). The only reason China (the government) seems to be doing well is because of totalitarianism, but each individual citizen has their hands tied in respects of who they want to live. The question here should be, does socialism work for each individual citizen? Or does it only work for the state? In China, it seems to be working only for the state, as in Europe, many (if not all) nations in Africa, North & South America. These are different levels of socialism, but ultimately, socialism does not have the individual in mind, but the collective. I don’t know about you, but I am an individual, not a “people”. Socialism worked for imperial Rome, but did it work for Joeius Shmoius? Nihil ego dicit.

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  • encinom
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:53pm

    Ron Paul is an Ayn Rand cultist and guest of Alex Jones (should disqualify him from any elected position). Ron Paul is everybodies crazy, old senile uncle, who doesn;t understand anything beynd his own conspiracy theories.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Constitution = Crazy Ummm, ok.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:16pm

      Enc… How was he able to predict the housing crisis in 2003 if he doesn’t understand anything? He’s the only one up there with a grasp of monetary policy and the only one who has a true understanding of economics. Even his opponents admit this. All the people who I know who are against Paul can at least admit that he nails it on the head on fiscal policy and most things domestic… they just disagree with his foreign policy.

      Your comment shows either your dishonesty or your ignorance.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:26pm

      encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:53pm
      Ron Paul is everybodies crazy, old senile uncle, who doesn;t understand anything beynd his own conspiracy theories.
      ——————————————-

      Let me guess….I’m paying for your underwater mortgage?:

      “Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges granted to Fannie and Freddie have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.

      Despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policy of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.”
      -Ron Paul, September 10, 2003

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    • Shane74
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:29pm

      Your post is ignorant, and insane. Ron Paul has a consistant record that people used to mock. Now it turns out that he has been right all along, but there are still people like yourself still parroting the media that mocked him, and frankly, it makes you look bad.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:35pm

      encinom: Sounds like you are a traitor. You either cherish and honor the US Constitution or you pack your bags and leave. Time’s quickly coming when traitors will not be tolerated.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:13pm

      encinom and ELIASIM are leftist, socialist trolls — I guess it’s best to ignore them, but jeeesh, they get on my nerves with non-facts and distorted viewpoints. Free speech reigns at the Blaze.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:14pm

      Paul is wrong, the crisis was not created by Fannie and Freddie, the crisis was created by the banks who found a way to bundle junk mortgages into securties that they could sell. Then took insurance out on the same securities so when they failed the banks would reap even more profits.

      Paul’s insane bias against market regulations have blinded him to the truth, and instead like a true republican he seeks to blame the middle and working class for the greed of the 1%.

      Ron Paul has no love for the Constitution, like all Neo-Liberals he holds the Constitution in a locked box and chains it down to 18th and 19th Century definitions. Paul is unable to grasp the flexibility of the system. Ron Paul is an old fool beholden to the debunk conspiracy theories of the mental midgets of the John Birch Society. His blind faith in the market proves he is not capable to hold any elected office.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

      well said encinom, paul believes parents should teach school to their kids, no public education, no standards, no truth, if you want roads, build them yourself. meanwhile i (paul) will take my goverment check and benefits and see you again in 2016.

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    • ofarrell
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Paul is a crazy? How is that? Foreign Policy? Many are about to vote for a man who says China is dangerous because it wants nukes and, as recent as last night on O’Reilly, says he has no fp plans and will surround himself with proper aides when he is in the white house… O’Reilly called him on it and you ignore it… WHO IS THE REAL CRAZY HERE? Oh, enquiring minds?

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Once again the same lame comment calling him crazy. Its old and its not working LIBS

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:45pm

      encinom you’re so wrong about the housing bubble (as you are in most statements regarding Ron Paul)

      Here is a simple explanation and Ron Paul warning of the bubble 5 years before it burst.
      He’s a self-taught economist (Duke graduates have a way of reading a lot).
      More http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnuoHx9BINc

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:46pm

      @riverdog1 There is nothing wrong with public schools. Its only wrong when the federal Government oversteps their Powers to dictate what is taught in public Schools within in the several States. Many a times in the past, early colonial period, the States would give money to institutions of learning, they would not, however, dictate to the Professors or School adminstrators the corriculum, discipline or beliefs taught and studied there, becuase the People and local communities were in charge and responsible for the education, religion and morality of their own children, NOT GOVERNMENT. The Government only had those basic functions that benefited all Citizens, not a select few. Plus, there is conflict of interests between the Government and the People. Guess who wins a Government run and controlled public school?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:12pm

      *Plus, there is a conflict of interests between the Government and the People. Guess who wins in a Government run and controlled public school?

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:20pm

      @Vechorik
      “He’s a self-taught economist”

      Which explains why he fell for the Austrian school and worships Rand. Would you go to a self-taught doctor, what about a self taught mechanic fixing your childs car? Paul is an old fool and has no understanding about economies any more complex than a common house hold.

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:40pm

      Encinom… that is a somewhat shallow understanding of the housing crisis. Yes the banks did this, but why? Who held the mortgage backed securities and collateralized debt obligations? Who insured the banks? Why did the banks feel like it was safe to lend to sub-prime borrowers? Why did the insurer feel safe insuring these exotic securities? Why were sub-prime securities rated AAA? All of the answers point to the government and the moral hazards they create by subsidizing housing and providing easy money to chase after assets. Ron Paul is against the CAUSE of the housing bubble. Yes there were greedy bankers who sold toxic securities to investors and then bet against the very securities they created… and the your precious government decided to bail out the banks and those who insured them! Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke pumped the system with cheap money and it all ran after houses… Banks leveraged their bets because of the low interest rates and Freddie and Fannie guaranteed the loans, so the banks had nothing to worry about. RP is against all of this, and also against the bankers who lobby in Washington and get bailed out. These was not a product of the free market, but a product of government intervention. Google “Peter Schiff mortgage bankers speech” and you’ll see another person (speaking in 2006) who understood the problem and predicted exactly what would happen.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:23pm

      RIVER- If Ron Paul would repeal all of the socialist regulations (which a long list of presidents have implemented), kept the federal government out of state issues, and allowed each individual the choice to make their own choices in life, then I don’t mind him receiving a government issued paycheck.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:24pm

      encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:14pm
      Paul is unable to grasp the flexibility of the system.
      =================================================

      Get real…..

      Article V is the ONLY flexibility of the system!:

      “Article Five of the United States Constitution describes the process whereby the Constitution may be altered. Altering the Constitution consists of proposing an amendment and subsequent ratification.

      Amendments may be proposed by either two-thirds of both houses of the United States Congress or by a national convention. This convention can be assembled at the request of the legislatures of at least two-thirds of the several states. To become part of the Constitution, amendments must then be ratified either by approval of the legislatures of three-fourths of the states or ratifying conventions held in three-fourths of the states. Congress has discretion as to which method of ratification should be used. Any amendment so ratified becomes a valid part of the constitution, provided that no state “shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the senate,” without its consent.”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:25pm

      I think all of us can see through encicom and others like him in here. No need to argue when we should be debating. What I get from these guy’s is; they are for Obama. They will just try to get at us and cause mayhem instead of debating the issues. We can be better than that. If you just ignore them, you will see the anger well up inside of them and they will eventually give themselves away.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:49pm

      @KidCharlemagne
      There is article V,

      There is also the Necessary and Proper Clause, At. I, Sec. 8:
      “To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

      The general welfare clause, the fact that none of the powers are defined and left to the court to provide such definitions as to what they mean.

      There is the 14th Amendment, its limits to the states and the power of the Congress to enforce those limits.

      No Paul and other like him have no understanding of the Consttution. They are in fact Neo-Confederates with their battle cry of States Rights to hide their bigotry.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:04pm

      ENCINOM, socialism is bad mmm k?.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:39pm

      @This_Individual

      Can you even define socialism. The term in the US has been so watered down by right winge talking heads and fox news as to be meaningless.

      What is bad is leaving American citizens defenseless against the Market. Paul wants to turn back child labor laws, civil rights laws, food safety laws, laws governing working condictions. Bascially Paul wants to turn the US into victorian England were the poor and working class (no middle class) barely got by working in condictions that would be cruel for an animal to work.

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    • endgamer
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:53pm

      Glenn Beck gets most of his material from Prison Planet and Alex Jones. In fact the military action in Libya was predicted months before it happened or announced by Glenn From Alex Jones and staff. Sometimes Glenn uses the prison planet material verbatim. Glenn seems to deny any banking/rothschild/bilderberg reference as being koo-koo. It’s not. George Soros is mid level at best. You need to cut the head off the monster. George Soros is just above the knees..

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    • endgamer
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:00pm

      The crisis was created by the signing of the community reinvestment act of 1977 By Jimmy Carter.. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2009-06-27/wall_street/30009234_1_mortgage-standards-lending-standards-mortgage-rates

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  • Mtroom
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:53pm

    Although I’m not a Paul supporter (really don’t know much about this man) I was very impressed with him answering the questions asked. Not spinning it to give his agenda, like most politicians. That has me looking into this man further.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:00pm

      So take some time to learn about that man. If you are common sense person, you gonna love him.

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    • TheePolitinator
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Ron Paul needs a look at from many people. he has had the same message, votes against and does not go along with the corrupt elite. He is a true patriot. And his record is iron clad. He has some strange views on Iran etc. However, with a good team of advisers he would see the light and sway. They don’t want Dr.Paul in office because he will undo all the socialistic damage done. They know this. He would save this nation and show what a true leader would do for a Republic.

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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:24pm

      MT,

      You will like what you find. I too didn‘t look into him due to the media’s dark light that they shine on him (see above picture) but this year I did my own independent research and found him the only man for the job.

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    • ofarrell
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:34pm

      He’s not in it for personal gain, he’s in it for WE THE PEOPLE. You just can’t say that about every politician, unfortunately.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:35pm

      I did not look at Ron Paul until this last year and everything I have researched on this man tells me that he is the most Constitutional candidate in the race. Go here for starts, it is Ron Paul in 15 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQNWHmiGj-k

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    • cous1933
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:01pm

      MTRoom,
      Please do research and I believe you will become a dedicated suporter. The accounts of “I was not a Paul supporter until I did my own research and ignored what the establishment media said about him” are many, including me.
      If you don’t mind I would like to recommend some good sources for such research. Tomwoods.com, Jack Kerwick on The New American.com, Dr. Pauls own archived articles on lewrockwell.com, Chuck Baldwin, and of course Dr. Pauls books.

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:53pm

    Paul’s language suggests that he at least accepts the idea that there is such a thing as a social contract. Certainly the people who wrote his touchstone, the Constitution, believed there was such a thing. But the very idea of a social contract makes nonsense of his statement that the government, our government, can do nothing but “steal, and rob people with a gun, and forceable [sic] transfer wealth from one person to another.” I thought Paul was at least more consistent than that!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Why must a social contract be administered by unaccountable bureaucracy, heavy handed enforcers, and oppressive taxes? Social contract doesn’t equal government to most of us. Nice try though.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Well, when it comes to education or welfare, federal govt. does more damage then it really helps.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:22pm

      Rothbardian:
      It’s generally believed that the founders derived their notions of a social contract from John Locke, according to whom government–if it is legitimate government–derives from a social contract instituted to protect individual life, liberty and property. Bureaucracy is a function of size and complexity, not of government as such. What is “oppressive” taxation is a matter for debate, unless you believe all taxation is theft.

      Escape_from_Socialism:
      Agreed, as presently constituted, the Federal education and welfare bureaucracies do more harm than good. But that is a pragmatic argument against them, not a principled (if inconsistent) one such as Paul’s.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:29pm

      Obviously, you never read THE LAW by Frederic Bastiat. Its a really good read.

      http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:57pm

      Q: Under a Ron Paul Administration, with a Ron Paul Congress and an entirely Ron Paul-appointed SCOTUS, which departments or agencies of the Federal Government would survive?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:08pm

      I would argue that the “contract” that Locke envisioned was the constitution. That being, if you accept natural law the goal of the government is to preserve the liberty of the citizens. Furthermore, the fact that the powers of the government were enumerated was precisely in line with Locke’s natural law. I think reasonable minds can agree that the current incarnation of our government looks nothing at all like how Locke had hoped or like the framers had planned. The constitution is merely trappings at this point. Ergo, one can acknowledge that there is/was a social contract in the natural sense but make the statement that the government (in current form) is nothing but a thug/thief.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:36pm

      @Lloyd Drako That’s easy. The purpose of Government is to secure the Rights of the People and to ensure the Safety and Happiness of its Citizens. A just Government, which is what we seek, instituted by compact, with certain enumerated and limited powers, under the consent of the people, is most beneficial to a free society, for all other rights and powers remain with the People. To answer your Question. All departments or agencies currently present in this Federal Government that do not have their authority originating in the listed Powers and Duties directly found in the federal Constitution would absolutely be terminated. This is, after all, a limited Government and Constitutional Republic. Only those Powers delegated to the federal Government by the States may be exercised with virtual impunity. However, if any abuse or derailment from the exact purpose intended by those Powers, so explictly stated within our federal Constitution, should occur, it is the Duty of the States and the People to demand correction, and to seek, within our Courts and Legislatures its rightful restoration. Of course, as all power orginates from the people, we have as a last resort, the right to resistance and rebellion from any tyrannical and abusive Government.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:52pm

    I’m not a Ron Paul fan, but I must agree with him. Public schools are filling our children’s heads with socialist propaganda.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:43pm

      What’s the tenth plank to the Communist Manifesto?

      10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.

      Great, our Government is brainwashing the minds of our young children to grow up to be a bunch of spoiled apathetic atheists whose education or indoctrination will only get them to be Corporate wh0res for the rest of their lives!

      Here’s some edumication from Marx:

      Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.

      But, you will say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.

      And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention, direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, etc. The Communists have not invented the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.

      The bourgeois clap-trap about the family and education, about the hallowed co-relation of parent and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Tenth Plank: Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800′s. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930′s. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia’s Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education’s specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, “head-start” programs, textbooks, library books. http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html

      Come on guys, do your homework.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:05pm

      @LeadNotFollow You’re correct. Not only that, but also, it is a Communist institution. Public Schools should not be governed by the federal Government. Public Schools are best managed when left to the States, Counties and local communities, and are a failure when run by any form of Government. The interests of the People and the Government conflict too often. States already have a department of Education. There is no Constitutional Power for Congress, the President, or the Supreme Court to dictate to the People the terms and conditions for the public education of our own children. At most, the State may intervene, but even so, with very limited power. It is the duty of the People to restrain the Government with the chains of the Constitution.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:15pm

      Colt1860

      Amen!

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  • PossumStu
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:52pm

    I speak as someone going into the education profession. Ron Paul is right! Choice is really the answer. I look forward to the expansion of private schools and the home schooling movement. Education in this country has been brought to a point of stagnation because of socialism and it is time to shake things up.

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  • DaveOregon
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:51pm

    Foreign policy and some others – like legalizing drugs – is Paul’s shackle and ball. Agree on the schools.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Do you really think people who want to do drugs aren’t already doing it? Prohibition isn’t working. If someone wants to ruin their life on drugs, they can feel free to. If they can maintain a job while doing drugs, good for them. Is it really any different then alcohol? It alters your mind. It helps you unwind from a long day. Why is alcohol accepted but not marijuana? That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. As long as you don’t smoke up before going to work, what’s the real problem? People can manage getting drunk on the weekends then going to work for the week, no problem. I also know people that smoke on a regular basis and still maintain productive employment, no problem. I am not your nanny, and you are not mine. Neither is the government. If I want to smoke pot after work as my form of unwinding, why can’t I?

      If you won’t legalize marijuana, then we need to criminalize alcohol!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Yeah, because the war on drugs has worked so well. Let‘s see over the last 40 years we’ve spent a few trillion bucks, filled up our prisons, and the problem is gone. Wait…not gone, but better. Wait…not better, but well, WORSE.

      If only we would throw a few trillion more at it it would work right? Just like TARP and Stimulus. If we had spent MORE we’d be better. Just ask Krugman. Oh wait, we should measure it in “addicts saved”. If we hadn’t spent billions then there would have been more users right?

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:28pm

      Laws won’t change the morality of people. They’re gonna do, what they’re gonna do.
      Personally, I don’t believe many states will legalize drugs.
      I also believe in treatment centers rather than jail.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:38pm

      American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Prohibition isn’t working.
      ===================================================================

      Sure it is…..

      …….for organized crime! (LOL!):

      “Mexican drug cartels’ US reach expanded over 300 percent in two years
      Published: 12:02 AM 09/30/2011

      Mexican drug cartels have expanded the scope of their U.S. operations over 300 percent in two years, from operating in at least 230 cities in 2008 to more than 1,000 cities in 2010, according to a comparison of the U.S. Justice Department’s National Drug Threat Assessments.”
      http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/30/drug-war-mexican-cartels-u-s-reach-expands-over-400-percent-in-two-years/

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    • Shane74
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:53pm

      Clearly we’re “winning” the “drug war”, right comrade?

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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:20pm

      Roth,

      Excellent answer/explanation.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:10pm

      @DaveOregon Here’s the harsh truth of reality. How are all these laws on the books today helping to decrease the immorality within our Society? Are they working to make people responsible or live a healthy life? We’re spending $30,000 a year of our tax money to provide food, room, water and gas for criminals or people with medical or health problems. A cure for this drug problem is only available within the private sector or the individual will of the person, whether sought by faith or community friendship, it should make no difference to the Government. If you truly want to help people out, I suggest you pick up a bible and preach repentence, and keep the Government out of our private lives! It is the Progressives who believe they know better and what’s best for us individuals. We need a spiritual revival, not more laws! Government cannot legislate morality, as it is only found within the people. Prohibitionist laws have always been enacted by the special interests of the Progressives. They all make Government bigger and expand the Powers of Government! At most, this is a matter left to the STATES. Read the Constitution, especially Ammendment Nine and Ten. Let the PEOPLE of each State decide for themselves. Damn the EPA, FDA, ATF and every God damned bureacratic self righteous POS federal agency! The founding fathers would often be accused of doing certain drugs, but they would never criminalize each other. They believed in self responsibility and personal privacy.

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  • Eraldo NY Tea Party
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:51pm

    I wanna see Cain/Paul running for the office.

    God bless!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:51pm

    He is Right. But, why bother to say it?

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  • takingonissues.com
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:50pm

    The government should not be allowed to run anything; whenever they do, they fail. When will Americans get that? http://www.takingonissues.com

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:57pm

      So, a Government-run military has lost how many wars? BUZZZ! wrong answer, try again.

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  • marhee9
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:48pm

    There is no doubt that she’s a Socialist. Amazing how many of them have come out of the woodwork since the election of the Socialist President. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2e3kJUY4E

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  • The Jewish Avenger
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:47pm

    “I preach homeschooling and private schooling and competition in school.”

    As far as this statement goes, it really has merit.

    The one about the millionaires again stealing money, the statement is too vague.
    “Every single millionaire stole money from the U.S. citizens due to tax breaks.” Is what I got out of that statement and if he truly believes that, then no one can truly say that they do believe it.

    Tomorrow lets say you win the lottery and its 300 million dollars, in most states you’ll lose 48% of that before you even get the check. Why? It’s the law. You struggled all of your life, won the lottery and now 48% of your income is gone. Next year? Money is in the bank no doubt. You got interest, taxing that. Buying stuff? Taxing that. total loss, about 5% IF you are lucky. So within 367 days max., you will lose 53% of your money. 159 million dollars and you havent even thought of doing anything with it yet. Do I have problem with that? You bet. Do I think that Ron Paul should be “pretty critical of the wealth of lots of millionaires and billionaires because they ripped us off,“ BECAUSE ”they got the benefits and the tax breaks.” No, I do not. He needs to specify who he is criticizing to be given merit. Just a thought….

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:17pm

      While I agree he should be more specific, I doubt he would vilify someone who wins the lottery. It’s more a matter of those that made millions shuffling money around and being bailed out by tax payers.

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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:19pm

      I agree the statement by itself about the rich doesn’t hold water, but that is not his full quote. The Blaze edited out the part Paul said about distinguishing which were good and bad to try to discredit paul.

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:22pm

      He’s talking about government insiders who get federal contracts, the corporations that use government to limit entry into their fields, companies that exploit patent law, companies that use government to force their product on the consumer, etc.

      Not lotto winners, or small business owners. Not even CEOs of WalMart or Apple.

      More like GE, Halliburton, GM, Chrysler, Solyndra, Xe/Blackwater, KBR.

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  • escape_from_socialism
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:44pm

    This is the real conservative, not K9.

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  • smithclar3nc3
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:44pm

    Ron Paul cuts across party lines everyone keeps complaining about the establishment candidates

    WELL THEN VOTE FOR RON PAUL. HE’S THE NON-REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN.
    He is without a doubt the best hope for breaking this two hat same party B.S. that has desimated our nation.

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    • joan k
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:23pm

      I am a Sarah Palin diehard fan, but I am moving towards Ron Paul as long as she isn’t in the race. He is the only one who will work to truly stop the spending in DC AND restore what litttle is left of the Constituttion. I sincerely believe he will help with our overall economy, too. We are headed over the cliff with the policies we have now.

      There is no reason that our troops should be in so many places. Think about it! We are becoming Rome. I support our troops, but they are being spread too thin. Why are we now the world’s force?

      As to legalizing drugs, I really don’t think it matters any longer as there are so many people who are on them now. Legalizing the drugs would end up helping to eliminate most of the criminals in the inner city who sell it now. Use the money to help rehabilitate those who are addicted now.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:54pm

      I don’t see any reason why Dr. Paul and Sarah couldn’t work together. Then we’d have the left and most of the right hating the administration! LOL No kidding though….here’s Sara talking favorably about Ron Paul when Fox refuses to mention his name (unless it’s something to try and discredit him).

      Judge Napolitano “Will the Tea Party and Libertarians unite?”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhzTzvmEf-A

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:59am

      Joan K that is excellent! About the ‘drugs’. Ron Paul doesn’t want drugs legalized, he just wants the federal govt out of it and for the states to make the laws they feel are necessary. The poorly named ‘war on drugs’ budget for this year alone exceeds $23 BILLION!! Now wouldn’t it be wonderful if President Paul could cut that out of the budget? And a President Paul WILL!!

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  • sup3rm4n
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:42pm

    I completely agree with Ron on both counts.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:50pm

      I agree also
      (My, what an attractive photo the Blaze chose for the article)

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    • knighttemplar999
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Well appearance matters unfortunately. He should have had a make over. At least a different hair style would have helped him a lot.

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:42pm

    The government shouldn’t run our schools. And even if you believe in other people paying for your children’s education at least keep the national government out of it.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:47pm

      Couldn’t agree more! All the federal gov’t has done since the Dept of Ed was founded has been to create little socialists. How did we ever educate the population for 200 years in this country prior to 1979?

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:41pm

    Facts to face,
    We can’t save our country without removing the democrats from power in all three branches of federal and state government!

    Our deficit will never ever be even cut in half, even with the largest economic boom we ever experienced without drastic cuts in entitlements programs that are needed by many poor people.

    That’s what results from 4 years of Obama!

    Anything short of that will put our nation under!

    Not good news but truth!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Remove the republicans while you’re at it. Start over.

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:25pm

      This isn’t a Democrat/Republican issue, or a right/left issue. It is freedom vs. tyranny.

      Ron Paul means freedom. He just happens to be in the Republican party, that’s all.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:41pm

    I agree… if all schools were privatized they would all compete price and scholastics… wow, could you imagine that? Colleges would be out of business (you would save money there as well) as schools would be so competitive it would be amazing!

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:48pm

      Even if schools were NOT privatized, at least return education to the STATES (like when children test scores were much higher and education cost much less). States act as laboratories with different methods. When a state does a good job, other states copy their methods. That’s the best way to always be pushing education forward without an “education bubble” like we have with the “housing bubble.” Universities are going to be the next bankrupt institutions, begging for a bailout — so says Dr. Paul. I believe him.

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  • Roaran
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:38pm

    Ron Paul always speaks the truth, whether you like it or not.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:49pm

      The truth? Isn’t that “relevant”? He speaks what he believes with little deviation…. that is important, but truth only comes from one source… God.

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    • Roaran
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:05pm

      @cessna152

      Do you mean relative? The truth can never be relative… and if truth can ONLY come from God, it’s impossible for someone to make a true statement? 1+1 = 2?

      Ron Paul speaks the truth, always. If you want to be technical, “I have never witnessed Ron Paul utter a falsehood.”

      If you in fact did mean relevant and not relative…. the truth is always relevant, and that much is self-evident.

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  • nohussein
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:32pm

    he’s right on this one.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:43pm

      Ron Paul is correct on most things that I find important. The deal breaker for me is his stance on Iran. That’s the only thing I disagree with him on, and that‘s what’s keeping him from rising in the minds of more people.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:48pm

      You mean this stance:
      Ron Paul would not stop Israel from defending her interests in any way she saw fit. When Israel attacked a nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981, almost the entire U.S. Congress voted to condemn the act. Ron Paul was one of the few dissenters: he voted against the condemnation and in favor of Israel’s right to self-determination. I say set Israel free of US control! Wonder what will happen now, with China and Russia telling Israel “you better not act.” ???

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:57pm

      @ Vechorik

      The stance that Ron Paul wants to offer Iran “friendship” is what I’m opposed to. I think Iran would accept only to further deceive the idiots of the world on its nuclear ambitions and that Iran is only interested in electricity creation.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:15pm

      @22,

      How’s the enemy path working for us? Better or worse? How about rather than “friends” we go with indifferent acquaintances? Do we really want to spend more of the Chinese‘s money and our children’s blood fighting these nuts? When is enough enough? I’m sick of war. I sure as heck don‘t want to give up my sons’ lives because other people can’t sort out their differences. We can stop any nuke that Iran would try to shoot at us physically or diplomatically. And we dang sure could stop any invasion. We need to move on and quit looking for boogey-men.

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    • gobucks100
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:16pm

      @tsunami-22. I am with you on Paul and his stance on Iran. If he would wake up on the potential issues of Iran, I could definitely get behind him, but his total isolationism and lack of seeing potential threat to revolutionary Islam is a deal breaker for me as well.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:31pm

      TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:43pm

      Ron Paul is correct on most things that I find important. The deal breaker for me is his stance on Iran.
      ========================================================

      He’s right on Iran too:

      “Rapidan Group sees oil price up by $175/bbl if Iran attacked
      http://peakoil.com/generalideas/rapidan-group-sees-oil-price-up-by-175bbl-if-iran-attacked/

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:36pm

      @ Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve

      When I listen to Ron Paul’s answer to diplomacy with Iran I automatically think of Neville Chamberlain.

      Ron Paul admits that he works closely with progressives as well as others, so why should we trust him based on that fact?

      When you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Ahmadinijad and the tyrannical cult of Islam as a whole are the dogs to be left outside, or better yet – kept in the kennel.

      As far as war goes, if you want to end wars – change the damn ROE so that our soldiers can do the job unfettered.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:39pm

      @ KidCharlemagne

      What’s more important:

      The price of oil?
      The price of Israel ceasing to exist?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:55pm

      @TSUNAMI-22 I think we should all take a lesson from Ronald Reagan, he once said,

      “My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes.”

      Reagan was well informed, or rather, very intuitive, regarding our foreign threats. He was pretty confident in our defense against any foreign venture to compete against us. During this time period it was the Progressives who were most paranoid over an imminent attack or show of power by the Soviet Union against us Americans. The left’s fear mongering and dilusional concerns were soon enough discredited and mocked. They sought a Progressive foreign policy, democracy through military might by whatever means necessary. The liberals and those in the left wing media thought Reagan was stupid in not acknowledging or physically confronting the threat the Soviets posed to us. The liberals or big Government advocates would all go into a rage when Reagan sought to speak softly but carry a big stick. Their outrage in Reagan‘s blunt confidence in our safety and his understanding that the economy matterd most in a Nation’s survival or destruction had them all in a twist. Reagan did not adhere to the UN’s philosophy of our Military being used as a sort of Peace Corps around the world. Reagan understood the priorities of our military and wisely sought not to put our troops in unnecessary danger. Reagan was strong in National Defense and yet sought dimplomacy.

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