Ron Paul on Michele Bachmann: ‘She Hates Muslims’
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Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" Friday. (NBC)
Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul took some strong digs at his fellow candidates Friday, saying Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann “hates Muslims” and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum doesn’t like “gay people and Muslims.”
Paul made his comments on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” when the host asked him for his take on the other GOP contenders in the field.
On Bachmann, the Texas congressman said: “She doesn’t like Muslims, she hates Muslims, she wants to go get them.”
“Wow, okay, that’s not good,” Leno said.
And Santorum?
“Gay people and Muslims,” Paul answered.
The rest of Paul’s evaluations were decidedly tamer. On Mitt Romney, Paul simply said, “He used to be governor of Massachusetts.”
When Leno pointed out his answer sounded like one Texas Gov. Rick Perry might give, Paul added: “Maybe that’s what he should stay as, being governor.”
On Newt Gingrich: “He should run for Speaker of the House again.”
On former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman: “He’s a good diplomat, he knows what diplomacy is all about.”
Watch the clip below, via NBC:
UPDATE: Bachmann has responded to Paul’s comments and said she does not “hate” Muslims.
“I haven’t heard that,” she told Politico Saturday during a campaign stop in Iowa. “It’s kind of an odd thing to say, I think. I think the Iranian threat is real. That doesn’t mean that I hate the Muslim people.”
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patbarker
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:19amPaul supporters need to take a longer look at Ron Paul…he’s like the 10 lb baby boy in Ohio with 5 lb testicles…HE’S HALF NUTS!!!!
what concerns me about tinfoil hat Ron is he’s likely to go 3rd party…and his Paulbots will folow him off the tinfoil hat cliff!!…and give our current dictator another term.
Report Post »ninja
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:28am.do we really want another RINO candidate? If the rep party cant come up with a real Constitutional supporter then I hope Paul goes third party and Odumba wins again……………………..we dont need to slow down the train wee need to turn it around.
Report Post »AhLeahIris
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:29amOh come on. Let’s be honest about Ron Paul, shall we? He’s no conservative:http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1IT
Report Post »He also has his own history of statements of questionable intent: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1J1
Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:31amThe people must be kept in a state of fear and their anger focused on some “out” group or they will start to object to having their fortunes, freedoms, and children taken from them. So the new boogyman is Islamo-fascism. And just like the Chinese, the Russians, the Nazis, the Hun, they are threatening to take over the world and destroy our way of life. They are threatening from without so we must go around the world fighting them, and they are (insidiously) threatening from within so we must suspend our liberties to fight them here.
The techniques of manipulation have only gotten better over the decades. They use lies spread through the internet. They use television. But mostly they rely on the demagogue. The susceptibility of the human mind to manipulation through the emotions has led to the manipulation specialist. Men like Newt Gingrich, Golem-like in their utter corruption from the quest for power, try to stimulate pride by invoking love of the homeland, stimulate fear with the specter of being invaded, focus hatred on an “out” group, and voila! You have a mob ready for blood.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:32amIf that happen you will get the government that you deserve. If Paul isn‘t the nominee and if he doesn’t run third party I will vote for Obummer. If scorched earth is what you progressives want then I’m more than happy to give it to you.
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:34amWow, I can’t stop laughing at that “half nuts”. Problem is – Paul is completely nuts. He is the epitome of the euphuism “wacko”.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:36amWhy are you so scared? Too many people are waking up to the neo-cons BS?
Report Post »drago
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:36amDear Mr. Paul, Bachman isnt the only one that hates themmmmmm
Report Post »Koz469
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:36amI’m not going to vote for someone just because they have an R next to thier name. If Ron Paul is not the nominee then I will vote third party even if he does not run third party. All of the other Republican candidates are the same as Obama in my opinion. None of them have a plan to decrease the size of the federal government. Hell, Romney said he wants to increase it at Thursdays debate.
I could not support McCain and I cannot support any of the other repub. candidates. None of them are conservative.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:37amThere’s got to be some sort of reasonable balance where we can both protect our rights and our safety. I keep ping ponging back and forth on this. In the first 2 years after 9-11 I was more in line with the neo-con camp out of ignorance and fear. Then I did a complete 360 degrees and understood media hype and learned about the military industrial complex. I know that in order to keep the wars going on, they need to provide an enemy that will easily get the public to surrender their freedoms while supporting more unconstitutional invasions.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:38am@AhLeahIris, define conservative?
Report Post »joe conservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:40amThe Ron Paul supporters are very hardcore. It really doesn’t matter what this guy says, his supporters will follow him anywhere. The bottom line is that any of the candidates will be an improvement over what we have today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdTJR_OYnNg
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:40amYou know the owner of this Website, Glenn Beck? Even he, thinks Newt is a Progressive and would steer the country in the same direction 0bama’s taking it. The left/right is trying to hold onto entitlements as this country makes its final push for full global assimilation. Do you just want what’s yours? Or do you want to preserve America? Those of you who are selfish, want to spill more American blood with convoluted premises for war, and manipulate the Constitution to fit your demands share the responsibility in the demise of this country, right along the current administration. YOU are not innocent. 71% of the miltary that donates to Ron Paul may not put their life on the line to save your greed and selfishness any longer. Does the opposition hate conservative Christianity? Or did you fail? Look at yourself.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:42amI’m out of the left – right paradigm
I’m not voting R or D. D and R mostly represent same big govt. now best what good for you.
I vote for constitution.
Ron Paul Rocks.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:44amLOL. You have right. I do really like Michelle and she speaks for a large segment of society when she talks about her opiions of Muslims. The problem with Muslims is that we can’t tell the difference between the decent Muslims and the other 70% of Muslims that want to kill all of us, that is, until they try it.
Report Post »Fusion Center Commander
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:51amWe have looked at Ron Paul ..for the past 30 years…he is the only candidate that tells the truth and always has. If you want endless wars and the Federal Reserve to control the country’s economy then go ahead and keep your eyes closed to the truth. I choose not to stay asleep. Ron Paul has my vote and my trust.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:52amExcellent article:
“U.S. leaders in both parties are proving themselves impotent and/or unwilling to stop the destruction of the U.S. economy they have engineered through their policies, they are likewise unable and/or unwilling — with the exception of Dr. Paul and a few others — to see that another set of failed policies, those in the foreign-policy realm, are leading to a greatly expanded war with Islam that will accelerate the collapse of the U.S. economy.”
On America’s horizon — A far larger war with the Muslim world
Report Post »http://non-intervention.com/1007/on-americas-horizon-a-far-larger-war-with-the-muslim-world/
Baddoggy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:53amYep…he has balls to stand up to the Progressibe neocon fools like you!
Report Post »g00gle-expert
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:01pmYou sir, are either brainwashed, racist or have an I.Q. around 70. You vote in a Mitt or a Newt and you will receive more of the same big government b.s. Only Difference is one wants big government this, while Obama and gang want big government that. Its amazing that people would chose a candidate based on the fact of whether they are a great orator or not. Track records are all you need, don’t believe a man who patrices one thing for 40 years and preaches another to buy your vote. Nothing against religion but common, its okay because “I made peace with god”…. right…
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:12pmPaul sounds like a lying, 2-year old tatle-tail.
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:14pmAhmadinejad has openly said he wants to destroy Israel, he is a maniac. Everyone knows he is trying to get nuclear weapons. Islamic Terrorists ARE a threat and one not to be taken lightly.
I don’t want to be the worlds policeman anymore than the rest of you but the rules of the world are not the same as the rules of America. We can’t play the ignorant pedastrian without serious concequinces. Ron Paul supporters, WAKE UP AND GET A GRIP!
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:15pmRon Paul is the only one…THE ONLY ONE….who would be the most instrumental in getting Obama reelected. My opinion, I’m sure he loves America and is a patriot, but the man has no common sense. And if he goes third party,enabling Obama to win a second term, we know whos’ responsibility it will be. Splitting the vote this election would almost amount to treason by means of stupidity. I apologize to all you Paul supporters. This is not a sporting event where we tease and jab at each other on opposing teams. This is serious business which we have to be united on. In your mind my opinion sucks, but one fact remains, whoever the nominee is for the Republican party, whether it is Paul, or Newt, or Romney, or whoever…WE MUST VOTE TOGETHER. OBAMA MUST GO! If Paul is nominated I’ll vote for him. He‘s not my favorite but I’d vote for him. Millions of other Americans would do the same. Don’t split the vote.
Report Post »Beckisdelusional
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:16pmPolwatcher: The exact same thing can be said about Christians as well…
Report Post »Paul -Indiana
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:16pmFor Ron Paul, it’s just another ego trip. He can’t win.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:18pmIn defense of Michelle Backman…she believes that she can stop the goal of the Islamic Caliphate taking over the world and forcing Sharia and the ones who don’t comply will be killed…but again..has this war stopped them from coming into the US.? No..Hint..We now have a Muslim President..and 3 million of them here..2 million just since he came into office.. I understand Wallid Shoebat..an ex PLO terrorrist turned Christian said Hilary Clinton opened the door for the Muslim Brotherhood here in the states.. As for hating homosexuals…Is it love or is it hate to inform homosexuals that they can come out of their homosexuality? I would say that is a love issue..they believe a lie..and it is their perogative..we all have a choice to do good or to do evil..homosexualis, fornicators adulterers, drunikards, thieves, revilers will not enter the kingdom of heaven…again..their choice. . Muslims are taking over the world a breakneck speeds.through immigration and population. The Constitution would protect them here if they choose to come out of their man created religion..They are devout…they just don’t understand who the real God is..they believe in one that the “church” gave them…There have been record numbers of them coming out of that false religion. We as Christians have a duty to help them as they have been victims of an evil religion. Place yourself in their shoes…but for the grace of God. there go I.. We are 16 trillion broke and vulnerable.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:21pmSorry Neo-Cons, you can dislike someone without HATING them.
Let’s perpetuate HATE !!!! (sarcasm)
I understand that if China Invaded and occupied America for over 60 years killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans, while speading Communism, that there would be at least 19 Americans that would retaliate against China at some point in time !!!!!
Sorry Government trolls, you are rendered ineffective. people are on to the game, and are ready to recognize any changes made in the game.
Gig is up. Better hope your martial Law plan works out.
I seriously doubt it will. Your plan to stop the flow of Ammunition will fail also.
A earlier poster was correct in the observation that this site is teeming with NSA, pentagon, and other alphabet agency trolls, posing as Conservative Blazers trying to discredit facts by dismissing them as false information or conspiracies.
We see through you, clear as day.
TEA !!!!
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Report Post »LeeroyJenkins
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:25pmI love when people standing down RP talk they always throw up opinion articles written by IWC(Industrial War Complex) paid NEOCONs. A true conservative does not want to punish people for their beliefs but rather actual crimes.They do not judge people for skin color or sex but for what they have to offer. A true conservative does not want to explode our resources at every drop of a dime on other countries. We do not need to intervene on the basis of offensive defense. Sorry, but to believe Israel cannot defend itself is a farce. Israel has a 7 million man army it is called its citizenry. They are required military service so they know how to fight. They only need our technology and RP is not saying do not sell them equipment.
What happens to our MAINLAND if the military strength is spread to 150 countries 900 military bases worldwide? Oh, we get over run with illegals, hezbollah terrorist factions, and Iranian army from venezuala, maybe you neocons should think a bit more.
Report Post »blue_sky
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Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:33pmPatBarker, I can assure you that ‘many’ who support Paul are as intellectually astute as you. And, judging from your comment, you could probably exchange the word ‘many’ with the word ‘most.’
Name calling does nothing to advance an argument. State your opinion, that’s enough. —bots and tinfoil hats could be used to describe anyone.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:34pm“I understand that if China Invaded and occupied America for over 60 years killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans, while speading Communism, that there would be at least 19 Americans that would retaliate against China at some point in time !!!!!
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another example of how idiotic and delusional paul and his supporters are…
you ‘libertarians’ are fascist liberals.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:35pmSet aside the fact Ron Paul doesn’t give a secure feeling about defending the Nation, I used to kinda like him. But with these comments about Santorium and Bachmann, I feel a bit ashamed that a man I had a fairly high opinion about could sink so low. This is insulting and I will no longer feel kindly toward this man.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:39pmVechorik, beginning with your first post on this thread and ending with your last, I must say that you are spot on, and write it better than I could ever.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:40pmEveryone says Ron Paul’s foreign policy is nuts, and yet… he has by far the most support from active duty military and veterans. He has had more donations from active duty servicemen than the other candidates combined. But they don’t know anything about the situation in the Middle East, right?
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:47pmWe have had 3 yrs of blame and name calling. I don‘t think we need another president who can’t run on his own merit, but reverts to kindergarten behavior, never having learned to play nicely in the sand box. The more Paul opens his mouth, the more I move him down on my list of candidates, despite his fiscal abilities. When he doesn’t get the candidacy, may I suggest a career with MSNBC, he is certainly starting to sound like their pundits.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:57pmPutting a RINO into office is the same bad medicine as leaving Obama in Office. The Republic’s days a re numbered. Our liberty hanging on a thread and the other choices being offered are what type of instrument to cut the thread with. 1) Obama= cut it with a hellfire missile 2) Romney=Cut it with an axe 3) Gingrich= Cut it with a scalpel when no ones looking. Only Ron Paul wants to refurbish the thread to the rope our country was founded to be.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:02pmExactly and leno and the rest of obama’s cheerleaders just love having this wacko on to badmouth the real candidates, I will vote for the Republican nominee, period ! We cannot survive another 4 years of obama and his incompetent henchmen
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:03pmI never cared for Paul. Sure he has some good points. But they all do.
Report Post »But I have gotten to the point where I literally hate the guy. I hate the sight of him, the sound of him and more than anything I hate his supporters. A bunch of soup for brains anarchists. It’s because of Paulistinians that I loath the man. I never want to hear another word about him till his obituary comes out. With every passing day it becomes more clear that Paulistinians are every bit as dangerous to America, or more so, than progressives. Heck!! In many ways they are progressives.
I wouldn’t vote for Paul if they held a gun to my head in the primary. And I’m actually starting to think about staying home and not voting if Paul was to be the candidate to go against Obama. Which is highly unlikely since in all the times Yoda has run for president, he has never once picked up one single electoral vote. Not one in 23yrs!! The stupid “spoilers”, Paulistinians will hand Obama another 4yrs. One way or another. And they will blame it on everyone else because we didn’t vote for Yoda, their “anointed one”. Maybe I’m just pessimistic, but I see no hope for America….AT ALL. Too many stupid people that have strayed from God and his ways. Too blind to see the truth.
smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:06pmPaul is a realist. We have been attacking, overtly and covertly disrupting the Middle East nations for decades. Israel was created, defended, by the United States for this very purpose.
Report Post »The Nazis had attempted the same with its German based Jewish Zionists. The Reich envisioned an ethnically pure Jewish State that would support their interests in the Middle East. The Zionists got their ethnically pure, in process, state. The Nazis did not. The reason remains the same.
sWampy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:06pmVechorik, You do realize when everyone of those threats you listed first show their ugly heads, there were dozens of liberals running around, let’s wait, let’s see if we can get along, the trouble will go away. Well we waited, turns out they were really a threat all along, and millions died that wouldn’t have died if we had nipped the problem in the bud.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:10pmPaul never fails to keep proving to me that he is off his damn rocker. And for him to use the Dem playbook and labeling his opposition with terms usually reserved for the left solidifies that. At one time, Paul had some sound ideas, still does—but the number one thing that makes it clear to me that he is a loose cannon is his stance on Iran. What a naive viewpoint. He just needs to take his meds and go to bed. We are going to have a rough 2012 with the establishment ensuring we have no options.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:11pmVechorik-
Report Post »Great article, spot on analysis
UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:13pmHere is my response to the silly claims like “you’ll split the vote“ and ”we have to choose the lesser of two evils!”
COWARDS! You are a COWARD if you will not vote your conscience. Do not blame those of us who have rejected the “choice” between two progressives. Blame the quislings who continue to vote for a progressive because of the letter after his name on the TV screen.
I will vote for Ron Paul, not because I agree with him on everything, but because I agree with him on the basic, fundamental truth of INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM.
I would rather see Obama reelected than see this scam of a shell game continue in my country.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:13pmRational Man, rational men don’t hate.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:16pmHe wants to cut the military even more and doesn’t believe Iran is a threat as well as not wanting to back Israel. Muslims want to take over the world, they don‘t understand diplomacy and he can’t see that! Unless you believe as they do, they only understand death to the infidels. Talking nicey nicey to these people is not going to make a difference and we will be seen as weak and will not be safe. All this talk about the constitution and freedom won’t mean anything to us if we are taken over by these people. RP really doesn’t understand what is happening in the world. I can’t imagine what this country would be like if he was in charge. What a nightmare that would be. I know he won’t win but he will cause Obama to have another 4 years if he runs as a third party. His comments to Leno were really off the wall and not at all Presidential.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:21pmFact is, if all you so-called patriots really were concerned about not surviving another 4 years of Obama you wouldn’t be worried about election results, you would be ready to take action to ensure the continuance of the republic as founded. But instead, you will vote for people that are currently supporting the dismantling of of our freedoms and constitution. What did Bachman vote on the NDAA?
Report Post »And if Obama wins reelection, you will all sit around complaining on blogs about the evil Obama, at least until you are rounded up for dissent. Freedom is the only choice, anything less is slavery.
AmeriCat
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:30pmI can NEVER send money to support his son, Rand Paul…
Rand Paul has NOT stopped his father from this craziness,
which tells us a lot about Rand Paul AND Ron Paul…BOTH the same!
Report Post »No Votes…No Money!
kansas hawks 3
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:33pm@ninja. you must be related to Ron Paul you plain wacko! ! ! ! ! Why in the helll would you want that idiot dumbo obama in there again??So we can all go bankrupt together??????
Report Post »Warrior4Zion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:36pmRational Man: You are exactly right. These idiots are so deceived. We have got to destroy these Muslim countries for Israel and the US before they destroy us or Israel. It’s time to be on the offense. We can’t sit back and wait for another attack. We have to take the fight to the enemy and enemy is Islam and Iran. All Ron Paul talks about is Liberty and the Constitution. We are in a War on Terrorism. We have got to undersand that and be prepared to sacifice a little. We need a President that will stand up and fight for our allies not run and hide like a coward.
Great Amerians like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Oreilly, Levin see the importance of this War and they are prepared to fight themselves for the West and Israel because they understand the threats of radical Islam.
Report Post »Brae
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:40pmI agree. Just shows how narcissistic this guy is..do it my way or hit the highway. Very much like obama in personality. If two polar extremes continue to the end of any spectrum, they meet in the middle.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:41pmLooks like he has decided to upgrade his CRAZY to NASTY. What a despicable little man to go on Leno and trash other conservatives using liberal talking points. It rather puts the lie to his disengenous claim at the debate that all the other candidates would be better than Obama.
I’m sure all the foaming Paulbots are slavishly drinking it in.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:42pmNope… won’t be the “Paulbots” that give obama a new term…
It will be the RINOs that nominate a loser like newt, romney, perry or huntsman…
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:46pmI think Paul pretty much just sealed his fate with those sitting on the fence about him. With these kind of comments and his absolutely looney and dangerous foreign policy thinking, I could never vote for the man. Too bad, I kind of like the guy otherwise.
Report Post »SoulReaver
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:49pmthis is exactly what nbc wants 4 more years and the best way to do that is bring in someone like ron paul. Bachman does not hate muslims she hates people that says they want to kill us and our allies. She is privy to top secret info for a reason, however I dont think she can win because the middle and left will paint her as too extreme. that leaves mitt newt and rick perry for some reason santorum just is not catching on. Ron paul knows that if he runs as a 3rd party obummer is in for 4 more years
Report Post »JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:55pmRon Paul or Busted.
Report Post »JustMel71
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:04pmRoll Call for: BILL TITLE: To authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll932.xml
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:06pmI’m half nuts too. So we of the large nuts have to stick together, ya know what I mean?
It takes a special man to have large juevos. Ron Paul’s are at least as gigantic as mine, no blue balls.
A nice tinfoil hat or Faraday Cage around your head might not be such a bad idea, why with all the secret experimental devices being employed to screw with the weather using electromagnetic fields, and with the barium salts and aluminum dioxide being doped into the atmosphere via chemtrails to increase the electromagnetic induction effect, I don’t need any signals being induced in my brain from that super large HAARP transmitter array. But I digress.
I don’t think he would run 3rd party, but I would follow that man to the death. That man is a real Patriot. A veteran too.
If we vote our conscience and write in Ron Paul if he doesn’t get the nomination, how do you characterize that as we’re giving you another 4 years of Dictator Barry? Wouldn‘t the same characterization apply to you neocons who’re going to vote neocon for the sake of party to defeat Barry and not vote your conscience?
The fact of the matter is that neocons ARE liberals and if we get either we’re in the same boat anyway. So you clowns are supporting the status quo and we’re trendsetters, and now you want to blame us for being so independent?
Ludicrous.
Report Post »JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:15pm“Paul supporters need to take a longer look at Ron Paul…he’s like the 10 lb baby boy in Ohio with 5 lb testicles”
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Well, you got the second part right.
Report Post »Securityguy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:33pmwow! a guy that names himself spankadonkey doesnt like Mr. Paul. I’m sure he will be heartbroken. Ron Paul is only being honest and people think hes crazy for it. Maybe these people need to do some thinking of their own for a change. Listen carefully to all the candidates and really think about what they are saying. and you will see Ron Paul is just being honest with what the government can do legally and should do morally. IT WOULD BE A NICE CHANGE TO HAVE AN HONEST PERSON IN THIS OFFICE. as for Michelle Bachman. she don’t hate muslims she just likes bombing brown people like all the other republicans.
Report Post »toto
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:34pmBachmann doesn’t hate Muslims, she hates Radical Muslims and what they have been and are still doing to this world and our country. Anyone that can’t see it for themselves ought to have their heads examined. She knows that radical Muslims are in this country and are using our laws against us trying to replace ours laws with Sharia compliant laws. I am with her 100% on this one. Those that think Muslims are not out to transform our society should take a little trip to Dearborn and try to talk to Muslims about Jesus. I am not a bible thumper, but that ought not get you arrested as it did to some people in Dearborn. For those who still doubt what Muslims intend for our country, go to England or France (or many other European countries) and try out your dissenting freedom of speech, maybe carry a pro Israel sign, and see what it gets you. They are just a few years ahead of us.
Report Post »Sr Newk
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:36pmI just defended him day before yesterday, but I‘ve got to admit Ron’s statement is a cheap shot. This is one of the things I don’t agree with him about, and to make say it on the network is totally out of line especially when neither Santorum nor Bachman are there to even defend such a ridiculous statement about them. Ron, for crying out loud, just what in the hell did you gain by making such a damn stupid statements like those. Ron you’ve stepped in it big this time, and stupid statements like these is where you will lose credibility not only with some of your supporters, but also those who possibly might be willing to give you their consideration. If you’re going to continue down this road with wise cracks like you did Friday night on NBC, you might as well pull the plug.
Report Post »cvliberty
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:47pmHelp me understand what conservatism is – it‘s when you want the federal government out of your life but then support the federal government going around the world trying to control everybody else’s lives?
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:48pmWe do not have money to go to war. People! Where reality?
Report Post »nationalcalvin
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:48pmWhat is Ron Paul the thought police? So he can read peoples minds and can tell whether or not they’re racists. I did half way support him, not now. Their is more evidence to suggest that he is a racist, if you look at some of the things that were wrote in his newsletter. I hate race baiting, it’s flat out wrong unless you have real evidence. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt concerning his newsletters, but if he is willing to assisinate other peoples character on National television than he should recieve the same treatment.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:49pmI think Michelle and Rick should get together and put out a joint ad highlighting these vile statements and calling him on the carpet for them. It will serve both of them (and the nation) to take him down. This isn’t just a violation of Reagans 11th commandment. It is a raping of it. Paul has now gone to the head of the RICHARDwad line ahead of McCain for attacking his own side on enemy territory.
Maybe we should give him the Hanoi Jane Award.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:58pmThe Truth hurts… It seems alot of these progressive Republicans on this site would jump off a bridge if Oreilly, Levin, Limbaugh, and Beck told them too. Its sad to see so called conservative christians demogauge ‘men of media’ to the point where they practically worship and follow these deceitful hypnotists. i know, i know. You’ll say paulbots worship paul. blah blah. You people consistently miss the point ‘because’ of whom shapes and molds your opinions. These people are sponsored by affiliates of the FR.
How can you ‘dispatch’ a whole religion? A muslim holocaust? Is that what you progressives want? Isnt that hypocritical? Bachman is chasing the islamic boogeyman. Once they kill the boogeyman another boogeyman emerges. Osama, saddam, qadaffi, alaki, adinnerjacket, etc. When will it end? Do we declare War on a religion? Is that a crusade? Do WE seek total global domination? Isnt that what we fight against? How can bachman say she’s the candidate for peace when she wants war with Iran? Is war peace? How can Limbaugh say he’s conservative, yet supports wasting billions/trillions in another war? a draft? How long has Iran been on the ‘verge’ of nuclear weapons? Hmm since 1979? Isnt that broken record a little old?
Why in the heck are you people terrified of Iran? Israel could wipe them off the face of the earth within a matter of one day. They wouldnt even need us. Maybe they can buy arms from us and help us out financially.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:03pm@RATIONALMAN…I haven’t heard any of these RINOS say how they plan to keep on financing these endless wars and balance the budget..have you? Do you really think that God wants us continually at war? I didn’t know that God expected for any of His people to ever go into debt.. Did you get the memo that we a 16 trillion in the hole and that China pretty much owns us? Did you know that China and Russia are backing Iran? How do you suppose all that is going to play out. It just might be Rational Man that if we don’t get a Constitutionalist in the WH..we won’t have a choice..We are voting US in the election..If one of these RHINOS gets in…we just as well have Obama..it will be the same result..a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..If memory serves..Ron Paul said he wanted to close our borders..not allowing anyone else in. We are in dire straits.. This country reminds me of the old nursery rhyme..Humpty Dumpty. And you RHINOS remind me of the welfare crowd..gimme gimme gimme..well guess what…the bank is broke!!!
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:14pmRon Paul is NuT’s, I’m begining to wonder if he is truely a lunatic……
Report Post »And I think more people agree with Michele Bachmann about muslims than he realises……
Rush was exactly right and laid luney Ron out perfectly the other day on his radio show.
TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:15pmI noticed they didn’t put up the WHOLE segment, just this tiny part! Yeah, scared that people might change their MIND????????? Here’s the WHOLE segment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VMUZIVYuluc
Report Post »It’s TWENTY MINUTES LONG.. take a whole MINUTE here without the rest? SHAME on you Blaze!
streetfighter
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:16pmHalf nuts? Thats all you anti liberty people can come up with. No substance no basis. You will need alot more than that to stop Dr Paul
Report Post »A standing ovation on Leno for Dr Paul.Well done! You dont see that too often
DanBrogan
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:17pmHonestly, how many times has Paul said he WOULDN’T run as a third party candidate? Plus, he is in a virtual tie with Romney in Gingrich in the polls, so it would be unlikely for him to pull a Ross Perot.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:19pmAfter reading some of these comments I can see that most of Paul supporters are as nut’s as he is.
Like a bunch of little children, if their Loony candidate does’t get the (R) nomination they are going to pout and vote for obummer again…..whaaaa,,,,whaaaaa…….whaaaaaa Yea that would be real bright.
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:27pmRon Paul is THE only TRUE Constitutionalist and understands FREEDOM. Bachman was an IRS stooge. The IRS is THE vicious persecutor of Americans ON a law that DOES not exist. Gingrich is a StateDEPT stooge. The State Dept is filled with NOTHING but marxist bent globalist. Perry same as Gingrich. Rommney same as Gingrich. Main Street wants it Constitution back. Did you hear any of these GOPs make a huge noise about S-1867.which threw out Posse Comitatus???? NO!!!!
Report Post »and you would vote for any of them?? Then you don’t deserve FREEDOM.
Paul better get in, if the US is to be the country of the home of the free and the brave.(Most military support Paul……so I guess the majority of them are crazy too right?????????
You know if Paul goes third party I will pull the lever for him, so that you do get Obama…..THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL you people get: the GOP is the same as Democrats….then all hell will brake loose and you will wish you would have pulled the lever for a CONSTITUTIONALIST.
cykoaudio
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:28pm@ahlearis..you’re trying to prove that Paul is not a conservative by your link is horribly disingenuous as well as deceiving and naive..that article claims that Paul is not a conservative because they claim he naive on Iran wanting nukes??THAT is the whole argument why he is not a conservative? ludicrous at best..LET ME CLEAR UP FOR ALL YOU PAUL HATERS(that use ONLY the example of Iran to discredit Paul)…James Madison said,& is truer to day than ever,& wish every Blazer/repub candidate would listen to,b/c than they would finally get it..“THE THREAT OF DANGER FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY USED TO UNDERMINE OUR LIBERTIES HERE AT HOME”did you Paul haters hear that? do we need to bring up the “intelligence” on WMD’s in Iraq to go in there & set up shop for a decade,putting us further into debt(you alleged conservatives DO care about our nat’l debt,right?) so the boogey man was WMD in Iraq,we just HAD to go cuz they were gonna nuke Israel,& y‘all very same ppl said ppl like Paul were NAIVE for questioning the intelligence that made all of us repub’s/conservatives look like fools cuz we believed & defended Bush,but instead of going in,finding out there were none,taking Saddam out & leaving we stayed for NINE MORE YEARS,so the corp’s that are under the thumb of the Fed.Res could set up shop…lets get this straight,Paul is NOT an anti-war lib hippie.HE WILL defend Israel if necessary,but WE CAN’T AFFORD policing the world,there is no counter argument for
Report Post »ThatsJustCrazyTalk
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:30pmLook all the Paul Bot Freaks on here! Easy way to tell a Paul Bot: 1). They don’t believe 9/11 was committed by radical islam. 1a). They think Bush or Mossad committed 9/11. 2). They hate the Conservative Party more than the Dems. 3). They‘ll call ALL Conservatives who don’t like Paul or Libertarians (aka conspiracy nutjobs) “NeoCon’s.” No matter what Conservative you like, they will say, “he/she is not a True Conservative.” 4). They will not only threaten to sabotage the election for Conservatives, they will act on it by voting Democrat.
Leftist Loons are no different than Paul Bots. They’re both Conspiracy theorists and their Foreign policies are going to get America overrun by her enemy. Half these Paul Bots aren’t even wannabe Conservatives like they claim. I PROMISE YOU over 50% of Paul Bots are muslims or Leftist dhimmis! They are doing their best to ruin the Conservative Party.
Funny how Ron Paul gave praise to John Huntsman. I wonder why that would be?
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:33pmOkay.. let me get this straight. We were attacked 9/11 my the Muslims because? Someone tell me why please? Because they hate Christians and Infidels. Okay. So now we have the Patriot Act which Bachmann voted for. We went to war IN (not with) Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and soon Syria and people are screaming for Iran. Okay, I have a hypothetical for you.
Say and extremist group of Americans didn’t like how the trade deficit with China is killing our economy and they feel that China now owns us. They want to do something about it. They get together, find means and ability to carry out a 9/11 style attack on China. It succeeds.
Question: What is the proper response by China? Should they come over with their military, bomb us for a while, then set up camps and road block/check points. Go house to house and search everywhere for these extremists? Just how would you feel if something like that happened here? I‘m sure you’d be all for it, right? Wouldn’t that make you feel all warm and fuzzy about the Chinese? After all they are trying to rid our country of dangerous extremists. It’s for our own good and that of the world to get rid of such people, after all. Right? Right?????
What WOULD you say would be the correct response?.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:36pmIt would be nice if Ron Paul would split the vote. If he gets half the Repub votes, and half of the Dem votes, and nearly all independent and 3rd and 4th party votes, then he will win!
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:39pm@ThatsJustCrazyTalk
You a flat out lying in your post.
Report Post »SomeRandomPerson
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:39pmI couldn’t have said that better myself. Ron Paul is a nut job. He obviously doesn’t live in a place called reality.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:43pmAll of you Paul haters, make me ashamed that i was once one of you. Call out the left on their tactics, and the people of the left tools (rightfully so, by the way). But then you turn around and use the same exact tactics, and if not knowingly using the tactics, you are being tools.
The one tactic that is true to republicans though, is that a 3rd party would hand the election back to Obama….Do you guys really believe that?? Put some thought into it…Obama has no supporters that are not paid to be one. Obama has a better chance of winning if there is NO 3rd party. People will just fall into their R and D voting habits and Obama will have a better chance at getting elected (i dont think he will though) A good 3rd party candidate like Paul appeals to both sides, and would split votes on both sides, and it would most likely come down to republican and 3rd party competing.
Stop falling for the scare tactic to make you vote republican….vote with your heart and soul, not hyped statistics. I for one will vote on my principles, not on media hype….
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:46pmMichele Bachmann does not hate Muslims.
She feels the same way I do about them: she pity’s them.
Report Post »thetreyman
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:47pmtoo funny. the neo confederates seem to be accusing conservatives of group think. and i dont recall anyony calling for the genocide of muslims, nice straw man.
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:48pmWhat else but pity can one feel towards a group that follows the teachings of a prophet that was a child molester?
Don’t hate Muslims – pity them.
Report Post »downbad
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:48pmDid any of you actually watch the interview? Do you know that The Late Show is comedy? It was basically a “roast” of the other candidates. Get a life…
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:48pmIf Ron Paul was president in the 80′s there would still be a USSR and a Berlin wall to. He is no conservative and with 30yrs on the government dole he is batting zero..all talk ….no results. The Paulbots are good at telling what he will do, like 30yrs wasn’t enough time.
Report Post »Letter from Ron Paul
“I want to totally disassociate myself from the policies that have given us unprecedented deficits, massive monetary inflation, indiscriminate military spending, an irrational and unconstitutional foreign policy, zooming foreign aid, the exaltation of international banking, and the attack on our personal liberties and privacy,” he wrote in a letter offering advice to the Republican party: not a letter about the Obama administration — a letter about the Reagan administration
mtnclimberjim
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:49pmThat’s why you need to vote for him. The sooner iran gets a nuke the sooner Israel can lay the smackdown. RP is the only one that can make a difference. There needs to be a strong shift of thinking in this country. Remember, just the truth.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:50pmAll of you should chill out about Ron. He was trying to make a point and be funny at the same time and it is not his forte’ to be a comedian. Go here and watch the whole interview and next segment with Joe Rogan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMUZIVYuluc&feature=youtu.be
IHe was on the Tonight Show people. Give me a break.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:51pmNot everything he say is completely nuts. He has good points about how oever extended this country has become and that cannot continue indefinitely. Same with our spending and military bases all over the world.
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:51pmTHATSJUSTCRAZYTALK
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:30pm
“Look all the Paul Bot Freaks on here! Easy way to tell a Paul Bot: 1). They don’t believe 9/11 was committed by radical islam.”
Would you believe a CIA asset? One that was the liaison between the CIA and Iraq,Iran,Libya, and Egypt, I believe. One that was the second NON Muslim to be arrested under the Patriot act? (if you want to know ‘why’ you’ll have to watch the video. She explains that, yes, there were Muslims that flew the planes into the buildings BUT there was an inside job going on to make the matter worse in order to create enough horror for the public to get behind going to war. Watch it for yourself. She was there! She knows what was going back and forth, knew what they knew and when they knew it. Iraq was ready to have peace, they were going to give the CIA all kinds of goodies, i.e. buying 1 million US cars a year for 10 years. Access to all their communications and sats. Even told the FBI to ‘come on over and investigate, arrest people if you find them.’ for lifting the sanctions that were killing their people. Everyone would have profited from that EXCEPT the Military Industrial Complex and Bush didn’t want peace, he wanted a WAR! Of course maybe you don’t believe the CIA HAS assets. If not? You’re better off being asleep. http://www.independentamerican.org/2011/12/08/ca-asset-talks-about-911/
BTW: If America goes bust from the wars, just WHO is going to ‘protect’ Is
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:53pmWhere he is crazy is these statements that he pulls out of thin air based on only his own assumptions. By the way, the world would be a better place without muslims in it but God made it this way or allowed it to be so.
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:56pmCarnac here! I predict all the Ron Polianas scream and chant for Ron to run 3rd party, he does the country get’s Ross peroed again Obumma gets 4 more years and his job is complete!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:12pmLastFrontier, I am beginning to think that all of you deserve it.
Report Post »Square Dancer
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:14pmHe’s Moe Howard without the haircut. And BTW…I don’t like muzzle-em’s either.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:15pmTheWholeTruth: “Okay.. let me get this straight. We were attacked 9/11 my the Muslims because? Someone tell me why please?”
Al-Qaeda and bin Laden cited U.S. support of Israel, the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, and sanctions against Iraq as motives for the attacks.
Report Post »The Crismil
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:22pmHe was acting like he was using one or more of those substances he doesn’t want to be illegal. I think he knows which of the candidates pose the greatest threats to him…Bachman and Santorum and is trying to paint them the way the libs would want to. Both Bachman and Santorum have spoken with love towards others. They both also make no bones about going after thugs who would bring harm on America and her citizens. Santorum LIVES the “Love the sinner but hate the sin” mentality. He has shown repeatedly that he loves all people, and wants nothing but the best for them.
I hope the people of Iowa and New Hampshire don‘t fall for the Main Stream Media’s attempts (and sadly I have to include FOX in this) to get people to go for that “electable” garbage. My dog could beat Obama 11 months from now. We have to have someone, like Reagan, who’s been consistently conservative through and through. Both Bachman and Santorum have been that and Paul knows it. Hence the attacks and the MSM lack of coverage.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:24pmRepublicorp, “If Ron Paul was president in the 80′s there would still be a USSR and a Berlin wall to.”
When you read your history you will find that it was the weakling JFK who allowed the Berlin Wall. Kennedy sold out to Khrushchev on every issue. McNamara was a fan of the Convergence Theory, thereby supporting communism worldwide. Kennedy was a politician that liked the idea of being president far more than he wanted to be president. Like Obama, he was constantly running for office.
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:28pmI wish this snake would crawl back under it’s rock…what a creepy guy.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:35pmRon Paul is an a$$. He’s got a few good ideas like downsizing government and cutting spending, but he is weak on supporting Israel, society and culture and doesn’t understand the reality and danger of Islam, be it moderate or radical, for the fact is, there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Islam is controlled by Radical Muslims for devout followers of the Koran are radicals, liars, deceivers and murderers. it is that simple.
Report Post »Barack Insane Obama would blow Paul away in a debate.
@NINJA, very asinine comment, suggesting Paul run as a third Party candidate so that Obama could serve a second term.
Hossua
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:48pmHe didn‘t go third party in 08 and his supporters still didn’t vote Republican. This whole “third party just gives the election” business is nonsense. People that vote third party aren’t going to vote for your establishment candidate whether Ron Paul runs third party or not.
People that vote third party are tired of the game.
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:48pmRon Paul is a crazy cult leader and his followers will mindlessly drink that poison kool-aid. He will never be president because most Americans will not drink what he is offering. It does not matter how often he is right because when he is wrong he is dangerously wrong.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:49pmRon Paul is 76 years old. He may be watching the 2012 election from bed in a nursing home, come November 2012.
Report Post »tmedlin
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:52pmyep, most of them are political neophytes and have no clue what splitting the vote will do.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:56pmCan’t wait to hear on Monday Pat Gray, O’Railly, Heannity, Levin, all foaming from their neo-cons mouths.
Report Post »It’s gonna be beautiful day.
ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:09pm@THAT”SJUSTCRAYTALK Hey Brainiac..the Constitution was what this country was founded on and I am quite sure that you and your ilk would never have had the cohonies or intelligience to do it. We are conservatives.You may call it Conspiracy Theories..but maybe you should research Agenda 21.. I excelled in college in thinking outside the box…something that you obviously can’t do. IThe World Summit was just held and it was reported on Ya Hoo.. but other news media didn’t report it.. Probably for the benefit of sheeple like you. It was signed by George H Bush in the 80′s. It is true…the CIA intelligence said 9/11 was blowback..another thing,,is had we gone by our Constitution..then we could ‘ve be armed and 9/11 could have been a different story..Oh well they say that Conservatism actually is what brought Communism in Germany in the Hiller era..don‘t know if it’s true..but I see how it can happen with uneduacated people who are so brainwashed that they cannot see freedom for the Commies. Here’s Agend 21 for this World Summit of which you are not informed..
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/un-calls-for-eco-fascist-world-government-at-durban-summit/
Ari Ben TZion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:15pm@ashestoashes
I believe it’s: “cojones”.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:15pm@MOTTONUT”Ron Paul supporters are just as nutty as he is…So you are a Catholic huh MOTONUT?
Report Post »Don’t know if you got the memo http://www.remnantofgod.org/books/docs/How-the-Vatican-Created-Islam.pdf So since the Vatican has control over Islam..there should be nothing for us to worry about..I hear that the vatican is trying to get her hands on Jerusalem right now..So we may really come under the authority of the BEAST .. you are already there.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:17pmAll the Cronicapitalists and Neocons are jumping on this I see. I think Paul would have been better off saying that Bachman talks a lot about the Constitution, but only believes in half of the Constitution, but still he says one thing, caught up in the comedic moment, and you dismiss all the things he say’s that are right. I am telling all of you right now, if he does not get the nomination, all of his supporters will push him to a third party run and if BO gets another four years because of it, I believe you all deserve it. I am sick of Cronicapitilistic ways and the crash of our economy and fall of our government will be well deserved for all of you Cronies. Have fun in your poverty when that happens. Just remember, we Paul supporters are more loyal than any other candidates supporters and you can count on the fact that we will vote for nobody else. Paul still has all the right ideas no matter how bad he is at comedy. Watch the whole interview and the next segment with Joe Rogan instead of this half as* attempt by the Blaze (which I now charge with being another establishment media tool) to discredit the only candidate that will look out for the people.
http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/12/ron-paul-with-jay-leno-dec-16-2011/
I am now going to GBTV and cancelling my subscription.
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:19pmLEFT COAST PATRIOT, Did you FART?
Report Post »Warrior4Zion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:30pmRon Paul is the only candidate that doesn’t want to defend Israel from their enemies! We must stand by our Jewish allies and destroy anyone that threatens if the West is to stand. If Israel falls America falls. I stand with the Jews just like the Bible says! If you don’t stand up for the Jews then you are an anti-semite! It’s really that simple because they are always being persecuted and they only want peace.
Report Post »We need a President that will defend our ally.
last frontier
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:37pmLEFT COAST PATRIOT@
. Just remember, we Paul supporters are more loyal than any other candidates supporters and you can count on the fact that we will vote for nobody else.
You sir are a FUGGIN MORON! none of us are happy with our choices but even ron paul would be better than Obama and if you think ****in this country up because your nutty professor didn’t win makes you and anybody that thinks like you! a fuggin MORON!
Report Post »blattack
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:44pmI’m sorry, THIS MAN SHOULD NEVER BE LEADER OF AMERICA….I just lost ALL RESPECT for Ron Paul, what a dope, he wants to make cocain & heroin legal, and makes this comment.
Report Post »GOVT_ABOVE_THE_LAW
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:48pmMichelle and Rick need to take a look at why Paul is so popular. I have read tons of comments from people that say they would vote for Paul except for his foreign policy or they agree with everything that Paul says except foreign policy. So, then, become the candidate that has the same stance as Paul on all the issues except foreign policy. How difficult is that? They could effectively take all of Paul’s thunder and shoot to the top!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:51pmI didn’t know so many NeoCons (oooh, there’s that word again) actually loved and liked Muslims and gays. Has there been a great conversion of heart? Forget and ignore all the comments posted on here made before this article showing great dislike and hate towards gays and Muslims. Me thinks it’s just a front to slander or discredit the only honest straight talking candidate running.
What’s next? NeoCons love Atheists?
Report Post »Black Eagle
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:55pmPaul says those unflattering things about “hating Muslims” because he is a certified Jew-hater and 911 Truther, who thinks Bush and Mossad did the evil deed, and not 19 “peaceful Muslims”. Beware the wolf in sheep’s cloak.
Report Post »Mr. Emmitt
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:57pmCouldn’t agree more about RP. It all boils down to keeping all available Repub votes and not running a kamikaze mission with Paul. ABO-with no 3rd party-period. Get the marxist, class warfare, demagogue out of the White House.
Report Post »spiritsmonger
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:01pmTo save the Republican party, we will destroy it. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:13pmKoz469
Wow…. I feel the same way, if paul get the nomination I will not vote. I would vote for a cross eyes maggot before voting for paul.
Report Post »Righteous Outlaw
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:14pmTake yer head out yer ass Patbarker. You can tune your tinhat antennae in to President Ron Paul.
Report Post »warriorspirit
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:23pmPeople need to understand that there is a group of people trying to “run the show”. They are made up of mostly bankers and international business. One of their main tools of power is the central banking system. This group of elite people is behind the pro war propaganda. Wars cost a lot of money and the Government gets this money from the central bank (i.e. the Federal Reserve) that they must pay …back with interest. All money printed by the Federal Reserve and added to the monetary system is due interest back to the Federal Reserve. That’s why the bigger government gets the more the Central bank makes. These people influence both sides of our Government. The Republicans push for more war and the Democrats push for more welfare. The Elite don’t care which side is in power because they win no matter what. Yet there is one person who would put an end to their “money train”. That is Ron Paul. They know it and are using their influence on both sides to try and stop him. All of media is against him; both MSNBC and Fox constantly try to discredit Ron Paul. I for one am not going to fall prey to their game anymore. The two party system is set up to keep us fighting among ourselves while they laugh all the way to “their” bank. Join the Revolution. Ron Paul 2012!!!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:48pmI stand corrected by the semantic obsessed, government troll; RUSH_IS_WRONG
Yes troll, I made an error, allow me to rectify and elaborate.
We didn’t literally Occupy and Invade the Middle east for 60 years, straight.
We periodically gave them “breathers” since 1952.
Error corrected.
Now to address your statements regarding
“idiotic and delusional” & “you ‘libertarians’ are fascist liberals.”
Only 1 of the 4 descriptions you promulgated were accurate.
That would give you a score of 25%, which is a F-.
You fail.
Being a ‘Rushbot’ renders you “idiotic and delusional”.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:00pmMICHELE BACHMANN: “We have an IAEA report that just recently came out that said literally Iran is within just months of being able to obtain that (a nuclear) weapon.”
RON PAUL: “There is no U.N. report that said that. It’s totally wrong, what you just said.”
Bachmann: “It’s the IAEA report.”
THE FACTS: As Paul said, the report of the International Atomic Energy Agency does not state that Iran is within months of having nuclear arms. The U.N. agency report does suggest that Iran conducted secret experiments whose sole purpose is the development of nuclear weapons but did not put a time frame on when Iran might succeed in building a bomb, and it made no final conclusion on Tehran’s intent.
Bachmann also erred by arguing that Iran has “stated they will use it (a nuclear weapon) against the United States.”
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:01pmYou just threw me under the bus Ron, I hate Muslims and gays too.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:12pmIf Paul doesn’t get the nomination, I won’t vote for Obama. I will write paul in as I bet quite a few people will do. I used to think republicans stood for something, but I was apparently misled. They are just as dirty as the Dems. They both give the government more power, they both siphon off taxpayer fund for themselves and their crony friends. None of them give a damn about the rights and freedoms of the average citizen. Most of them never bothered to actually serve in the military. Bunch of draft dodging, spoiled rich kids protecting their own fortunes.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:19pm93 Senators of 100, voted in favor of the Unconstitutional NDAA (1867-S), a bill that allows the federal Gov’t to detain indefinately, and without trial, American Citizens.
44 of those, were “Republicans”
Only 7% are anti-establishment ( anti-global Elite ) and RON PAUL is ONE of the 7% that can save America.
Ron Paul advocates know that all the other Candidates are the 93%.
The progressives and the global bankers have been attacking America for over 200 years.
1845 – Common law abrogated by corporate law
1861 – Declaration of Emergency and Martial law allowing presidential executive orders.
( Presidents have been issuing E.O.s since then… nothing to see here, move along. )
1871 – D.C. is formed and the United States becomes a corporation.
1913 – The federal reserve act was passed.
1933 – The Emergency banking Act. The United States is officially bankrupt, and pledges America’s government, land and PEOPLE as collateral on the DEBT owed to the federal reserve bank !!!
1933 – Birth certificates become law in all states.
1936 – Social Security becomes law in all states.
These are Bonds, held by the receivers of the bankruptcy.
The receivers of the bankruptcy are the UN, IMF and the World Bank.
1944 – Bretton Woods Treaty. The UN gets official deed to “Corp U.S.” and have been running our Country ever since.
They are careful to disguise their secret, due to the obvious repercussions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
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Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:26pmMuslims belong to an evil ideology, so what is wrong with recognizing the truth in that?
Report Post »Anyone who is a muslim needs to ask themselves, do I want to be on the wrong side of history when a muslim country uses a nuclear bomb as a terror weapon? Because when that happens, all hell is gonna break loose… and no calls for “calm” will change that.
booger71
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:28pmWell Ron, since many of your biggest supporters are Neo Nazis, you hate Jews.
Report Post »AhLeahIris
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:29pm@Escape_From_Socialism: I don’t know exactly how I would define conservatism, but I guess I could go with the same guy’s definition. Looks to me like he’s thinking it through: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1JL
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:30pm* http://teamlaw.net/
Report Post »Go to historical outline and American history at this site.
booger71
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:33pmI would rather see Obama reelected than see this scam of a shell game continue in my country.
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The above is why I detest Paulistas
ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:33pm@BLATTACK ” I’m sorry, THIS MAN SHOULD NEVER BE LEADER OF AMERICA….I just lost ALL RESPECT for Ron Paul, what a dope, he wants to make cocain & heroin legal, and makes this comment.”
Report Post »I had a hard tie rapping my head around this one too..but please understand. …Dr Paul wants smaller government. He wants to give the power to the states..therefore the majority would rule in each individual state..it would be within our powers to make the laws.. This is not new..It is what our founding fathers did.
mils
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:39pmhe is not a viable candidate.
Report Post »He’s a petty little fart that plays into the democrat hands by snipping at his fellow candidates…and on national TV on a liberal show.. His few minutes of accolades from the likes of Leno are degrading to him in this campaign and all the conservative candidates in general
He’s a nasty snippy little twit…doesn’t have much patience either. Thinks he’s so coooool, i think he’s a loser who is about to do irrepable harm to the conservative movement.
IndyArmyVet
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:39pmwarmonger neo-cons… what do you know that active duty/veterans don’t know? Why are your moderate Republicans not recieving donations from us? If some foreign nation dropped troops on our soil, the streets would be littered with the dead, but it’s okay if we go and do it.
How much more money from China do you intend to borrow for wars you won’t enlist for to go fight?
You are all sooo worried about FP’s foreign policy, yet overlook the fact that we are this close to economic collapse. You demonize a man who’s first thought is the US Constitution. Call him racist based on some BS newletters he didn’t write.
What really makes me wonder about you guys… You go on about RP “parroting” Bin Laden on why they attacked us on 9/11, yet turn around and parrot Iran “wiping Israel of the face of the earth”. There is no evidence of Iran getting any closer to nukes and even if they did, they aren’t nearly as dangerous as Russia, China, Pakistan or North Korea.
Wake up America… if you want to go kill Muslims so bad, go see your recruiter or STFU…
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:46pmmaybe you should research Agenda 21.. I excelled in college in thinking outside the box
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Sounds like you got a BA in Taco Bell
Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:07pmSo let me get this strait… A man who holds his oath of office seriously, meaning he votes and acts constitutionally is nuts? Thats odd. I would have thought the word patriot would be more fitting. Then again, I guess your like the democrats who like to pick and choose what portion of the supreme law of the land you wish to support depending on the time and situation and call men of honor and consistency nuts.
Report Post »Ernesto
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:13pmNo, Paul is 100% nuts.
Report Post »RevDarwinEllis
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:16pmI agree with except he’s not half nuts he is frickin totally crazy and fully nuts!!!! A Ross Perot wanna be!
Report Post »Neveraleftist
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:23pmI agree with Patbarker, 100%. And to Ninja, who wrote: “do we really want another RINO candidate? If the rep party…” You, sir/madam, you are an idiot, the same kind that gave us Obama in 2008. And to quote your most beloved radio host show, Mark Levin: “I will vote for an orange juice can against Obama”. To you and your wacko compadres, nutty nuts Paul is the only answer. Therefore that qualifies you as a drone.
Report Post »JimCDew
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:56pm@All who would vote for Obama or third party. If you don‘t like the target don’t shoot yourself in the foot. Just leave the gun in its holster.
Report Post »BenFranklinLivesHere
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:57pmRational Man- Lmao!!!
Report Post »That was one of the most irrational posts on this thread. “Too blind to see the truth.” lool
Look in the mirror, chap.
Now, you can chose to continue being part of the problem, or you can accept the truth that is Ron Paul. We can no longer afford to reduce the election of our representatives to popularity contests like American Idol. Look what that got us. Time to get serious. Stop reading the opinions of bloggers.
Cause4Liberty
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:06pmSupport the TROOPS! Support who they support! Or do you support the Big Banks? Big banks or big govt vs supporting the troops? which is it? Im Supporting the Troops! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo
would u rather read an article? http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/264837/20111209/ron-paul-newt-gingrich-mitt-romney-funds.htm
Report Post »mansejolley
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:07pmLaughing and crying at the same time, that is classic.
Report Post »mansejolley
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:10pmLaughing and crying at the same time, that was the truth. We are screwed.
Report Post »andrewsv
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:25pmYour comments are RIGHT ON, Pat! This will happen again, just like it happened with Ross Perot!
Report Post »Speedward
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:44pmNice little hit piece. I’m glad some people posted links to the full segment. I think Ron Paul is wonderful and just what this country needs to get us back to our roots/ common sense.
Report Post »bworei
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:49pmtwo words for you morons above who say you‘d vote obama or paul third party if he isn’t the gop nominee: SUPREME COURT! i’m sick of all this b.s. “repubs and dems are all the same, blah, blah, blah…” you people are NUTS! like obama would have ever given us roberts or alito… or bush kagan and sotomayor! don’t you paul lemmings dare give us 4 more of obama and a couple more libs on the scotus! the blood will be on YOUR hands!!!
Report Post »Sicboy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:50pmI thought about voting for Paul, but he just put his foot in his mouth. perry, grinch, and rommy are obama light. No punn intendid. Guess I’ll sit at home get some popcorn and watch Rome burn.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:56pmThat was a great interview and the one little hiccup isn’t worth all the effort Ron Paul haters are putting into it. Many of us were brought up during the time we were supposed to hate all Russians. Then the USSR fell and suddenly we didn’t have to hate them anymore. But those at the top didn’t have the control over the people anymore and so they have been furiously working to get us to hate the entire Middle East except for Israel. It’s ridiculous.
Report Post »Aren’t you tired of hating? There are good and bad regimes and warmongering is a sign of a bad regime. No one goes around punching the faces of everyone who passes them by because they are a suspected robber. That’s exactly what the policies of a Bachmann and the other warmongering candidate would be like if they were to become president.
There are much bigger issues with Bachmann other than saying she hates muslims – there’s the FACT that SHE VOTED FOR THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT – something GLENN BECK doesn’t even support. Yet he still supports Bachmann? He‘s a hypocrite if he doesn’t denounce his support of her. She is just as totalitarian as the rest of them. AND, she wants to legislate our morality. Where in the Constitution does it say the govt has the right to tell us how we should believe and behave? That‘s our church’s job.
Ron Paul – the defender of the Constitution and our Individual Liberty. He, and only he, has my vote.
President Ron Paul 2012
jzs
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:59pmPolwatcher says, “LOL. You have right. I do really like Michelle and she speaks for a large segment of society when she talks about her opinions of Muslims. The problem with Muslims is that we can’t tell the difference between the decent Muslims and the other 70% of Muslims that want to kill all of us, that is, until they try it.”
Pollwatcher there are over a million Muslims in the US. If your claim is true that 70% them want to kill you that would be… let me think… 700,000 Muslims who want to kill you. And they are in every city! Muslims are everywhere and seven out of ten want to kill you! Be afraid, be very afraid.
You should also be afraid of the non-Muslims who commit 100 murders per day in the US, and getting killed in a car accident or dying of cancer. And you should also be afraid of being struck by lightening, all of which are greater threats to you than being killed by a terrorist, as long you exclude non-Muslim terrorists which is much more likely.
But, I admit, the fear of being struck by lightening or killed in a car accident, although far more likely that being killed by a right wing terrorist or Muslim terrorist, just don’t have that same satisfied feeling we can all enjoy from hating our fellow man. How can you hate lightening for God’s sake?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:11pmIs Paul stupid or what? Bachmann’s supporter all hate Muslims so what is this statement supposed to accomplish? Is Paul trying to slam Bachmann’s hatred of Muslims and probably gays too? Ron, you obviosly don’t know her base, which consists of about 3% of the population, you know, those who hate Muslims and gays. Bad move Paul!
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:52pmWe have no money to go to war! How is that so hard to understand. It‘s like telling my kid I can’t her that toy because it’s too exspensive. I love how you tell us to get a grip. We know The Iran pres is crazy. We know Muslims have extreme beliefs. But what are you going to do about it? Bomb them? Wipe out every muslim on earth? Your not Superman ok… It cannot be stopped. Once you stop one crazy, another will show up. Its useless. & it wastes our money, while our country goes down the deep end. Also, Paul clearly stated, he would go to war constitutionally. take care of it quickly and leave. Not beat around the bush for 11 yrs. We all know the real reason is because you fake republican still want the Fed to be around, You love to EPA & you love the TSA/Patriot Act. Oh well.. have fun while your rights get stripped away. I’ll be the one laughing.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:02pm@bworei BLAME THE GOP for being too dang Progressive and out of touch with the Constitution and intent of the founding fathers!
McCain lost in 2008 because the GOP Establishment, MSM, and NeoCons voted for him in the primaries. I’ll blame you NeoCons this time around. “The blood will be on your hands”? Are you serious?
Report Post »MilesF
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14pmPaul did not go third party in ‘08. I don’t know why he would this time.
Report Post »If he does win the Republican nomination, I’d have to vote for him. We all would, I suspect. I’d worry, though. I don‘t think it’s a sure thing that he couldn’t beat Obama, but it might be a squeaker. It’s just that Obama has been so awful that anybody would be better, and too many Americans would agree with that assessment for them not to vote for whoever the Republicans put up against him.
Ruler4You
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:19pmPaul is becoming desperate. He has spent a fortune in the last few elections trying to become noticed. And I have to say, he is the only candidate talking about shrinking government.
But he is too frank for the establishment to embrace. And honestly, he’s 100% correct. But the ‘people’ aren’t the ones who choose candidates. Its’ the media, the elites and the establishment. And he scares them witless.
Bachmann, they figure is a woman. And they figure a ‘woman’ will be easy enough to destroy.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:21pmIt is funny to me when people supposedly blame Dr. Paul for taking votes from the RINO‘s when it is the RINO’s and those that support them that are taking votes from Dr. Paul. If Obama wins another election it is because people have compromised their vote for the establishment and those that the corrupt media have already chosen for them to follow. Dr. Paul will beat Obama no problem head to head because Obama has a terrible record these last few years and has broken a lot of promises to a lot of people. People are ready for that Hope and Change that he promised and it won’t come until he is out of office and Dr. Paul is in.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:24pmShe doesn’t hate Muslims, she just wants to kill them. Plus, she and her husband think gay people are mentally ill, and her husband has a clinic to get rid of the “gay sickness”.
Bachmann and Santorum would be a good GOP ticket. Put all the gays in concentration camps and nuke every Islamic country in the world and let God sort them out. Isn‘t it kinda sick that this is Beck’s “Dream Ticket” when asked who he supported by Bill O’Reilly yesterday?.
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:24pmYou guys are a bunch of suicide voters willing to martyr yourselves for your fearless fruitcake, so if he loses are the Paul supporters going to yell alla nutbar! and chant 3rd party, with that attitude you fuggin morons wont have a country or a constitution left to work with. I don’t understand, you would rather Obama then anybody else you fuggin wackjobs.
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:28pmThat would make Ron a Ballchinian.
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jm
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:05amHi Pat,
Dr Paul is much smarter and saner than you! You are apparently one of those low IQ folks who assume that killing people is going to keep us safer than simply not going to war with them in the first place. Actually, as a physician, Dr Paul has a great deal of respect for human life. You, who have never fought in a war, think nothing of thousands of dead and maimed American soldiers. Do you know that Dr Paul leads all the candidates in support from active military people? Your problem, Pat, is that you, like the other Republican candidates, are a coward and consequently you are too easily frightened by the warmongering pundits on Fox News.
When are you going to wise up? These are the same people who brought us the Iraq war on false pretenses. We now have thousands dead and many more wounded, and we are closer to bankruptcy. Be assured that they will come to us with a case for invading Iran. As for Israel, they have 300 nuclear devices. If Iran, becomes a problem for them, the Israelis can decimate every Arab city and army in the middle east. Let the Israelis fight their own war.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:07amGuess what, Mr Paul- I hate muslums and homosexuality, too.
Report Post »But I’m still considering voting for you, to you’d best keep that in mind when you start knocking constituency.
thetreyman
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:25ami wouldnt worry about the paul supporters too much as i just dont think there are that many of them. they are however well organized. any time anything is mentioned about him they swarm like gnats. lets be honest, these people were too young to vote, too stoned, or were 3rd party before paul. they have never liked either party and want to do away with them. if they get what they want and paul is elected president there will be civil war 2. if they think that a 180 degree turn will not cause bloodshed their fools. that cant be it because we know that all paul supporters are constitutional scholars so is their end game nefarious, perhaps. maybe a confederation of states loosely tied to one another with no one to coin and print money. the states can pick up that duty and as there is no constitutional police powers we can have trade wars between the states witch will lead to real wars. then strong men will come to power and create factions and war with each other until there is only one left. the utopia is now born.
Report Post »if you thank thats crazy ask the guy that says fluoride is used for mind control his views on things.
Cpt Randall
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:26amI have no respect for Mr. Paul and longer. This guy is WACKY! Should have his own Sunday night Comedy Show.
Utah Resident
Report Post »Army Vet
Small Business Owner.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:27amI think Ron Paul has just won the muslim and homosexual vote, and the neocons have further marginalized themselves.
They will vote for the neocon (liberal) candidate, get 4 more years of Barry, and then blame Ron Paul supporters for their own stupid vote.
Its absolutely hilarious that they’re so mad that so many people will not join the neocon warmonger bandwagon, while Ron Paul supporters are concerned with our personal and financial liberty and freedom. What a clear contrast.
They‘re mad because we won’t chime in with the “GLASS PARKING LOT!!” chant.
Report Post »dakealo
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:33amPoor, pitiful, poverty-stricken, defenseless Israel.
That is the view of Michele Bachman and all the other Republican candidates except for Ron Paul. Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons and Iran has none. They could vaporize Iran in an instant if they genuinely felt threatened and do not need any help from us. Yet, WE are supposed to start another war — with Iran for starters — to supposedly protect poor, pitiful, poverty-stricken, defenseless Israel. Bachman assumes that if Iran ever did get a nuclear weapon, Israel would be completely defenseless against it even though Israel did very well in defending itself against Iraq several decades ago when they bombed Iraq’s infant nuclear facility. (Ron Paul, by the way, supported Israel’s independent defensive action at the time).
These pandering Republicans treat Israel with the same condescension and lack of respect that Democrats show toward THEIR mascots, welfare recipients, which they assume to be unable to survive without handouts from them.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:34am@Patbarker,
Show me a candidate that supports the constitution (all of it) and understands free market economics and he/she will have my vote. There is only one candidate that does, Ron Paul.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:47amHistory lesson. In the 1980s, the Republicans needed a strategy to get control back in both the executive and legislative branches. Nixon had screwed the pooch in the 70′s and was still fresh in the minds of voters. But that didn’t mean voters were happy with how the government (and America) were going! Reagan’s campaign implemented a “big tent” strategy. Instead of trying just for the fiscal conservatives (who ran on low taxes, small government, and laissez faire foreign policy), they included social conservatives and ultra-right members. The result was resounding victory: Reagan easily won his election and re-election, and the GOP senate made a huge comeback.
But what were his concessions? The government began a campaign of deficit spending. Star Wars, and other Cold War military spending get the most views, but the social spending began in earnest as well: money to church groups, to right-wing causes, etc. Reagan knew he needed to keep the social conservatives in his tent, and he pandered to them.
And now we come to today. Ron Paul offers a pre-Reagan, small-tent perspective: true fiscal conservatism. Why does he meet such opposition? Because the majority of the GOP falls under the “big tent” of social issues. While many will proclaim their love for the Constitution and small government, they have NO problem with voting against both to meet their social goals. Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum cheerlead this view.
Report Post »ConserveChrist
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:53amWe don’t need to slow down the train, we need to derail it.
Report Post »onlylu
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:57amYou keep talking stupid like that and you deserve another four years with the Impostor in the White House. Do your own homework, as someone very wise keeps telling us.
Report Post »Ron Paul in 2012!
Awakening Day
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:28amI disagree, He’s all Balls and is what this country as been in desperate need of since Grover Cleavland. Make no mistake Ron Paul position on foreign policy is Constitutional and the others are not. Read George Washington‘s Farewell address and you’ll see that his foreign policy is the same as Ron’s. We are bankrupt and it is ALL going to be over unless we bring the troops home and batten down the hatches, be friends with all nations and no entangling alliances.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:39amFunny how all of you Paul supporters are bashing the neo-con RHINO’s when those were the ones he had the NICEST things to say about…. especially Huntsman, the biggest RHINO in the primaries.
He villified and demonized the only two running (Bachmann and Santorum) who have been part of the TEA party movement FROM THE BEGINNING.
You praise the man who praised the lead RHINO.
The stench of hypocrisy runs deep among the Paul supporters who post on The Blaze.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:48amThere is absolutely no courage, character or “balls” in resorting to the Progressive, Saul Alinsky tactic of calling your opponents “racist-bigot-homophobe”… on a LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW, no less.
That is cowardice and laziness.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:51amThis is a joke right? The Blaze has become a bigger disinformation site than Holders’ DOJ. No one who actually takes time to watch the full interview can mistake it for anything other than what it was 98% a discussion on policy, and less than 2% burning of his fellow candidates. If you can’t be bothered to do your own homework, then you deserve the shackles around your neck. And screw you if you can’t take a joke.
Give me Liberty, or give me Death!
Ron Paul 2012 or Bust!
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:14amThat Ron Paul sure does love him some Huntsman RHINO! That means that all of you Paul supporters MUST love RHINOs like Huntsman, too!
If you don’t, that would make you hypocrites.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:20amNow that the only “Only True Conservative” has played the racist-bigot-homophobe card from the Alinsky Deck it is only a matter of time before he says that supporters of Bachmann and Santorum are typical white people clinging to their Bibles and guns…. meanwhile continuing to sing the praises of great Neo-Con Progressives like Hutsman!
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteeninBadges06
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:24am“Ron Paul on Michele Bachmann: ‘She Hates Muslims’ ”
That right! When someone IS AT WAR WITH YOU … here’s what you do:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRPZvwTRh9g
(Thank you, Gen Patton.)
Yeldarb1970
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:37amI love this thread! It’s so very revealing. If we‘re going to say that Ron Paul is not a conservative because he doesn’t believe in entangling alliances, doesn’t want to intervene in the affairs of other countries, and feels that by doing so we face serious blow-back consequences, then sign me up as a non-conservative as well! By the way, you’ll also need to exclude many of our founders from your so called “conservative” club. What does this reveal? Just that those who have yet to discover what liberty is have no idea how to approach the topic of Ron Paul.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:48amIT’S A “PAULIE PARTY”
Report Post »EVERYONE COME ON DOWN TO THE BLAZE THIS WEEKEND
WE’LL ROAST THE REPUBS
& SCORCH THE EARTH,
THEN WE’LL SMOKE SOME TOKES
& CALL EVERYONE DOPES!
ALL THE WHILE
BO WILL SMILE
FORE HE KNOWS IF WE RUN
HE‘S GOT 4 MORE YEARS TILL AMERICA’S DONE!
Courtesy of a Military Mom Who Knows, the previous number of supposed Paul Supporters in the Military is ENTIRELY A SCAM!
Mil Mom
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:00am@FreedomPurveyor
Report Post »Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:40pm
Everyone says Ron Paul’s foreign policy is nuts, and yet… he has by far the most support from active duty military and veterans. He has had more donations from active duty servicemen than the other candidates combined. But they don’t know anything about the situation in the Middle East, right?
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I challenge you: “PROVIDE STATISTICS TO PROVE THAT BOAST!” Actually I doubt that any of the other candidates even keep track of whether or not their contributors are ACTIVE DUTY SERVICEMEN or NOT, So I guess, if he has 100, he probably would have statistics for 100 more than the other candidates have, RIGHT?
West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:21amYeah, we have all the Progressives on here blowing this up more than it should be, I mean Paul always speaks the truth. He knows these people on a much more personal level than any of you will ever will. If you really listen to their own words, you could come to the same conclusion and it would be easy to say on a comedy show. Santorum in answer to Wolf Blitzers question on who would be profiled? Santorum said, “The folks who are most likely to be committing these crimes… Obviously, Muslims would be someone you’d look at.“ ”Prompted by a question on the rioting in France and Europe in 2005, Bachmann said “not all cultures are equal, not all values are equal,” letting it be known that she thought that people of the Muslim faith had an inferior culture to that of the United States and the West.” How about these statements Progressive jerks? They were being serious, in a serious situation, Paul was being not quite so serious, in a non-serious situation. You bash the only candidate that will actually look out for your rights if he is elected. You guys make me sick to my stomach and I say none of you have the right to call yourselves Tea. You are not Tea as you do not have the Tea values it takes to be real Tea.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:24am@PoliticiansRCrooks
Report Post »Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:48pm
We do not have money to go to war. People! Where reality?
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That’s kind of like walking down a dark alley with a bank deposit envelope and wearing a sign that says, “Don’t anybody pick on me, I don’t want to get into any fights tonight!” Either you’d better be bluffing, and a Blackbelt, OR you can bet your boots, someone’s going to come and see if you REALLY MEAN IT!
IF RON PAUL IS GOING TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION, WHAT’S HE GOING TO DO WITH THE COMMAND TO PROMOTE THE NATIONAL DEFENSE? IT DOESN’T MEAN PRETEND TO NOT SEE THE BAD GUYS WHO WOULD DESTROY YOUR NATION, AND JUST SEE NO ONE CROSSES YOUR BORDERS! “HEY mR pAUL (Earn my respect you’ll get your caps.) did you forget that EVERY TOM, DICK & HARRY NATION HAS AN AIRFORCE THESE DAYS? Even hamas & the palestinians have rockets & rocket launchers, & that new carrier the communist chinese have looks like it’s outfitted for Electric Pulse Attacks. If All are guys are here at home, (& way less of them.) How we we get anyone around behind anyone who attacks us? I guess we’re ALL WIPED OUT TOGETHER! We can cut half the worthless business killing Agencies & Departments out & the FED TOO, & spend that money on MILITARY!
“WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!”
West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 4:19amMilmom, Stop listening to all the Progressives on what they say Pauls policy would be .They lie to you. In a nutshell, he is saying that the biggest threat to our country right now is the economy. If the economy falls, we are a Nation no more, then how do we protect ourselves? ‘We do not need all the troops all over the world, we have subs and unmanned jets that can strike anywhere in the world within 30-60 minutes. If our security, from another countries actions, is in jeapordy, he would go to Congress and ask for a declaration of war. That is the Constitution and puts the power back to us and not one man or the U.N. If we the people through our Congress decide to go to war, we go in with everything we have to get the job done quickly, then get out and not do any nation building. He is not weak on Natl defense. Doing Natl defense by the Constitution will make us stronger. All great governments that have fallen, did so because they became bankrupt, the last was the Soviet Union. Let’s do all we can in order to not become the next civilization that falls because we went broke.
Report Post »Dr Vel
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 5:11amHe is not half nuts he is completely insane, making the mad hatter look like a saint. And so are any who follow him on his path to the destruction of our way of life. Ninja you are a fool and if you have your way I hope you enjoy the Fema camp or the Sunny Cuba where you will likely end up.
Report Post »Obama Been Lauding
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 5:19amI don’t agree about him being half nuts. He just sees things in more of a wooden ship, and flintlock world.
I do agree that his fiscal ideas are very desireable.
I would love to see him as the Treasury Secretary.
On his 3rd party run. If he does that, he could be considered a spoiler, for anyone in the Republican field. A “Ross Perot” candidate, that takes just enough votes away, that the current “Occupier-In-Chief” would be re-elected. That would be a disaster!!!!
Please, people look at what we have in the White House!!!!
In the 2012 election, we need anyone but Obama!!!
For the life-of-me, I cannot see how anyone would vote for Obama, but he has his robots, that want a Socialist form of government, at whatever cost. He is very proud, or lauds, his achievements, but look what they are!!! Anything to stir division in the country. To get just enough people dependent on the government, to get their vote. It is just that simple!!!!
Anyone but Obama 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 6:39am@BECKISDELUSIONAL
You must be one of those self hating libs that can’t understand numbers. In Egypt today, 66% of Muslims support the Muslim Brotherhood and Sharia. The same can be said of the other Muslim countries. Today, from their mosques, the Muslim Brotherhood advocates killing and subjugating Christians or Jews and all other non Muslims as demanded under Sharia law. No Christian church (or any other religion) has ever done such a thing in the modern era. (Please don’t bring up some war where self defense was an issue or something that happened 500 – 1000 years ago as justification for your statement. We are talking about today.) There are indeed secular Muslims today that don’t give a rat’s ass about their religion and who don’t go as far as the devout ones, but that is why I said “70%”. However, those Muslims do support their brethren in many other ways. The small percentage of criminals that wantonly kill people in our society may be what you are referring to and if it is, please, use your head next time. Criminals or nuts are everywhere pal and that is no reasonable comparison.
Report Post »libtardian-refugee
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 8:07amI pray to God that whoever wins the pres. election is a different party than congress
Report Post »paulbot66780543
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 8:56amThe bottom line is that Paul was just responding to Michelle‘s ignorant comments during Thursday night’s debate about Iran. Based on what she said, I can‘t really blame Paul for thinking that she doesn’t like Muslims. She lumped them all together and made no distinction. It’s as though she fails to understand Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a figure head.
If you want to take an honest look at the reasons behind Paul’s foreign policy, please take just a few minutes to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:25amSelective commenting BLAZE? How about more detail of Bachs statement:
“I don’t hate Muslims,” Bachman said. “I love the American people. And as president of United States, my goal would be to keep the American people safe, free and sovereign.”
“The haters are the president of Iran,” she said, referring to Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. “He stated unequivocally that given a nuclear weapons he will use that weapon to wipe Israel off the map, and he’s willing to use it against the United States of America.”
“The HATERS are the president…” Great grammar hick hahahahahaha
Report Post »HOPEFORCHANGE
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:50amLOL — His supporters are fierce — sometimes he just makes sense, and other times he is “zany”
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 11:29amUrsaMajor
Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum jumped on the Tea Party Express after Ron Paul (the Engineer) got the train moving in 2007.
Try again. He praised Huntsman as a diplomat, he could’ve attacked Huntsman on his Jasmine Revolution shenanigans, but that is tiddly winks compared to Michelle Bachmann’s dangerous fear of the Big Bad Muslim Boogeyman coupled with her intent to turn the Middle East into a Glass Parking Lot- believing the shallow lies from the untrustworthy, CORRUPT IAEA.
She believes government lies too easily. She is gullible, and she is a fearmonger living in the delusion that she has the IMPOSSIBLE ABILITY TO KEEP ANYONE SAFE!!!
That’s why she voted for the rights-trampling PATRIOT ACT and looks stupid trying to claim that she is Tea Party for small government, personal, financial, and religious freedoms.
NOBODY CAN KEEP YOU SAFE!!! We’re floating around in outer space on a giant rock. ANYTHING can happen. People like her would blow up the moon to keep us “safe” from its impending collision with Earth! They would nuke the sun claiming it’s dangerous!
If anybody can reconcile Michelle Bachmann’s vote for the Patriot Act Extension with her claims to be for smaller government and personal freedom, please do so, because the Patriot Act OBLITERATES FREEDOMS.
Bachmann is Crazy! She has Charles Manson eyes! Yang Sanpaku!
Mil Mom
You’re a warmonger who lives with a false sense of security.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:01pm@INDYARMYVET
You just SCHOOLED most of these “keyboard warriors” with your post.
Most of these imbeciles just parrot whatever the TV tells them to. They haven’t done any independent research, or had any life experience that gives them some semblance of a clue about the Middle East.
I say we strap about 100lbs of gear on them, and drop em out over Iran, so they can put their a$$es where their keyboard is. We‘ll give ’em a chute first.
None of these cowards are even listening to the FACT that RON PAUL HAS RECEIVED MORE DONATIONS FROM ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY THAN ALL OF THE OTHER REPUBLICANS COMBINED, AND EVEN MORE THAN OHMAMMA.
Listen to the people WHO HAVE BEEN THERE, not some guy behind a microphone in a DJ booth.
Like “Indy” stated. Go see your recruiter or STFU.
Report Post »Decade
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:16pmYou Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2621f57FAAAAAAAALAA
Report Post »wholearmorofgod
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:15pm@vechorik….I believe that “balance” you speak of (protecting our liberties and safety) is pretty much handled in the 2nd Amendment. I believe firmly, as our founding fathers did, that govt cannot provide safety and liberty. Liberty and Freedom are our inalienable rights given to us by our Heavenly Father and creator. The 2nd amendment gives us the right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves. It is not only our right, but our RESPONSIBILITY to provide safety and protection for ourselves, our families, our communities, etc…. There is absolutely no form of reliance on the govt that does not come at the price of some degree of liberty. Give me liberty or give me death….not my words, but I surely do agree
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:29pmPaul said it right, Michelle does not like Muslims and Rick does not like Muslims or Homos… Both of their platforms are built upon those concepts. Denying it means you are not in reality or lying.
Michelle and Rick will say we must wage war for Israel because Iran is going to wipe Israel off the map. Michelle and Rick are speaking for Israel almost as if they are using Israel as a scapegoat to go to war. It seems they’d tell Israel when to go to war and how to wage it. Is that what Israel wants? I don’t believe so. In fact, Israel’s leaders said they believe in Self-Reliance and Independence. What‘s odd is Glenn somewhat disagree with both of their intervention stances I’ve heard him say because it is progressive.
Rick and Michelle both dislike homos and it is know. It’s part of their platform. I’m not a fan of homos but civil liberties does not curtail just to what I am a fan of. Marriage is man/woman and God, not government. If Government is at the head of marriage you must treat all the same. We will never win the spiritual battle thru Government. We will only thru individuality. What’s odd is Glenn Beck disagree with Rick and Michelle on these issues as well because it is how progressives take liberties away.
I cannot support either Michelle or Rick for president because of their eagerness to wage war. America needs independence and we will not get that while warring in the Middle East. Intervention is progressive foreign policy.
Report Post »Kenai
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:51pmBachmann hates muslims and so do I. Let’s get the definition of (muslim) correct. Islam is not a religion, it is a culture masquerading as a religion and it’s belief is simple. If you don’t have the same beliefs as we do and you will not convert to our beliefs…we will kill you.
Report Post »Damn right she hates muslims!
Cosmos102
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 5:40pmWhy does Ron Paul want to protect Muslims? What’s going on in that little head of his? Sounds a little zany to me.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 7:20pmWow…Ron Paul’s tea party money bomb is about to hit $4 million
http://www.dailypaul.com/192852/friday-ron-paul-tea-party-moneybomb-december-16-2011
Report Post »reggie patrick
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 7:46pmHey Pat, You got it right. All his eloquent arguements against the Fed, monetary policy, will be pointless if he assists the reelection of Rosemary’s Baby!! Ron Pauls’ pinball machine is tilted. I’ve been thinking that huge money will be coming out the middle east to pay for a 3td party run. That way they can keep their fellow muslim in office. Ron Paul makes Newt look like George Washington. God have mercy on USA.
Report Post »wilson38115
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 8:50pmSad part is all his followers will believe anything he says no matter how outrageous or untrue.
If Ron Paul is wrong about the Middle East, does it matter?
In regards to being the police of the world last time I checked people in London call the Metropolitan Police and not the U.S. Military.
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 9:25pmi agree, if we have a 3rd party, 0bama will win
Report Post »woodrowsux
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:45pm@vechorik Sure, just like those paranoid allies drumming up war quest against those poor nazis in the 40′s. They were just minding their own business testing zyklon B on willing participants who happened to be jews. We should have minded our own business back then too, maybe the world and the US woud have been better off ( in Ron Paul land) there would have beevn no jews left in europe and no Israel and no palestine – wow! And oh that politician Winston Churchill he just hated Germans and wanted to “ go get them” . Think of all the money we would have saved if we just would have left the nazis alone. As a 3 year TEA Party activist and a far right winger who despises Obama – If Ron Paul wins the Rep. nomination I will do the unthikable. Not just not vote. But rather I will vote for and campaign asa tea partier for Obama!!! This guy is a freak!! Where is Sarah Heath Palin when you need her.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 11:33pmAbsolutely disgusting to hear so-called Tea Partiers saying they would vote for Obama…
Well, I guess that seals it up…you’ve been officially outted as NEOCONS.
Neocons are Liberals.
Go to Huffington Post, now…where you really belong… and get that tongue ready for some boot polishing…Obama‘s gonna need a lot of your tongues to shine all the nice patent leather boots he’s going to have coming to round up the Tea Party members to haul them off to a FEMA Camp.
Absolutely amazing. I knew neocons were dangerous, but not so dangerous as to actually willingly vote for Obama, not just sit out…but actually vote for evil. But I guess if they would vote for ANY candidate except Ron Paul, they may as well vote for Obama anyway, because we’d get the same thing from all of those warmongering candidates.
Ron “I started the Tea Party in 2007” Paul 2012.
Report Post »Howyinthehills
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 11:58pmLooks like Alzheimers setting in. Paul is too old for the Potus position.
Report Post »Ded-Bred
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:34amI’m Libertarian. I’ve respected Dr. Paul for many years and worked diligently for him in ‘08. And Republicats & Demublicans have become interchangeable….. and in this primary I‘ve heard GOP twist Ron’s words, accusing him of loving Middle East. But they ignore Obama getting a billion dollars from saudis & not once has anyone held him accountable for NOT disclosing where he got all his campaign $$. But if we’d become a true capitalist nation, built our defense, left these other nations alone we would be prosperous.Dr. Paul never said we don’t need a strong military: he is sick of us sending these nations trillions and trillions of dollars and then putting a base there, while they say they hate us but demand we help them. Let’s not waste money as in Iraq then pull our military out so muslim brotherhood can topple the puppets.All our dead soldiers all that $$$$…..for nothing. We have a communist muslim wannabe who really does HATE USA in white house. No experience and a coward to boot. yet newt and the mitt insult ron paul? how many pay raises have they voted for themselves while in office? How many times have they voted for more taxes? or millions in pork for their state? Dr. Paul never, not one single time voted yes on any of tjhese. in 25 years. Oh, I hate the muslim false and very demonic political tool. No such thing as a TOLERANT MUSLIM. If you’re so stupid you believe that, qo do research, read some of their UNholy koranif ron paul said it, shame on him.
Report Post »The Blu Morpho
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:46amHALF? This MF is loonier than flock of LOONS! Anybody who seriously thought about voting for UNCLE FESTER here, needs their heads examined!
Report Post »ICEDRAGONNITE
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:03amIf Michelle hates mohommedists she got i right.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:17amSo Paul’s superior intelligence has him playing the (last resort) race card. What a jerk! Also sounds like someone else we know…. His arrogance is only surpassed by….
Report Post »Now his clean-up crew here is nudging the comments and conversation away from what a jerk he made of himself on Leno.
mdefu2
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:33amAll of you die hard “Republicans”: if you truly want Obama out, then you should nominate Paul. You keep whining about how the Paul supporters will vote for him as a third party candidate. How does it make sense that you complain that the Paul supporters will not listen to reason, and say that they are going to get Obumer reelected? Are you not doing just that by not nominating Paul?
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:47amRon Paul is insane, BECAUSE HE TELLS THE TRUTH?? Well then call me a nut as well, because speak the truth whether it is about a conservative or a liberal. The rest of you could learn a lot of RP
Report Post »black9897
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:57pmYou people who don’t see Ron Paul as the best choice are crazy. Everything he said was right on!! He’s the only constitutional conservative/liberatiran whos consistent . you want real freedom? choose ron Paul.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:17amAs I watched Len’s interview, I got the impression that he was asking set-up questions to come back and bite Ron Paul later. “The crazy old man approach” Look forward to seeing those answers played out of context if he should get the nomination.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:39amthe CIA were responsible for creating Al Qaeda:
Al Qaeda was created by the CIA, in their offices in Washington D.C., According to Richard Clark in his most recent book. It was created for Saudi Arabia to bankroll Osama bin Laden, through the House of Saud, “in the Afghan war against the Soviet Union during the 1980′s and Riyadh and Washington together contributed an estimated $3.5 billion to the mujahideen.”
“In late 2003, U.S. News & World Report conducted an exhaustive study titled. ‘The Saudi Connection.’ Its findings included the following.”
“The evidence was indisputable: Saudi Arabia, America‘s longtime ally and the world’s largest oil producer, had somehow become, as a senior Treasury Department official put it, ‘the epicenter’ of terrorist financing’.
http://www.rense.com/general61/myths.htm
Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”.
http://globalresearch….
It’s really a tangled web we have woven for ourselves. And as long as we remain on their soil and dropping bombs on their civilians, we are providing all the motivation that is necessary for more Muslims to become radicalized. It’s such a convoluted mess. How in the world do we ever unravel this ball of confusion and manipulation. WE are our own worst enemy.
Report Post »TheJoseyWhales
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:41amHannity and Limbaugh are gonna take these sound bites and play them over, and over, and over. I imagine he’ll be a pinhead on the factor as well. This might sting a bit for the Paul campaign! wish he would’ve refrained from these attacks, however, the media has been calling him names all along!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:52amYou will return to the Constitution or you will die enslaved…Ron Paul will get you there faster than anyone else. Like it ot not. You say he’s insane, a nut job an old decrepid old man…But he is RIGHT! Either return to a Constitutionally sound gobernment or have Obama look alikes until we are all toast!
Wake up America! Pull your hrad out of the Neocon backside before it’s too late!!!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:58amTheJoseyWhales: Well its obvious that Paul is in over his head when dealing w/ these devils in the Meida. He’s too honest for America. We need some one that will look us right in the eye and tell us exactly what we want to hear not the truth.
I’ve always had problems with Paul because I am a strong Social Conservative as well but at this point in time I just want someone to uphold our Constitution above all and stay out of these asinine Wars that only serve the interests of the Military Industrial Complex and Israel.
For the record I think Ron‘s son Rand may be more Conservative than his father and he’s definitely better looking and a better speaker.. Let’s face it; aesthetics matter greatly in this day and time.. Washington and his crew could never win election in America today. No way in hell!
Anyway, I hate to see that Paul took the bait. I don‘t think Bauchmann hates Muslims and I don’t think Rick hates Gays.. Complete BS! I can’t believe he answered like that but the fact remains they are both seriously wrong on foreign policy because they worship at the feet of IPAC. Now that’s a fact!
Regardless I‘ll still vote for Paul and I’m not sure if I will even vote in a general election considering the Neo-Con line up.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:01pm“the CIA were responsible for creating Al Qaeda:
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this is a lie…
While it is impossible to prove a negative, all available evidence suggests that bin Laden (search) was never funded, trained or armed by the CIA.
Bin Laden himself has repeatedly denied that he received any American support. “Personally neither I nor my brothers saw any evidence of American help,” bin Laden told British journalist Robert Fisk (search) in 1993. In 1996, Mr. Fisk interviewed bin Laden again. The arch-terrorist was equally adamant: “We were never, at any time, friends of the Americans. We knew that the Americans supported the Jews in Palestine and that they are our enemies.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html#ixzz1goQEQnUD
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:56pmOperation Cyclone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone#Background
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:00pmoh yeah wikipedia…liberal wackos swear by it…
we armed the afghan freedom fighters against the soviets…not the saudi….get a clue
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:11pmIf one does not believe a source to be credible, one can check it statements against fact. To admonish Wikipedia without giving evidence is itself ignorance.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:31pm“If one does not believe a source to be credible, one can check it statements against fact. To admonish Wikipedia without giving evidence is itself ignorance.”
I already gave you the evidence in my link…not that evidence matters to people like you….
bin-laden denied it…and so does the CIA
In the course of researching my book on Bill Clinton and bin Laden, I interviewed Bill Peikney, who was CIA station chief in Islamabad from 1984 to 1986, and Milt Bearden, who was CIA station chief from 1986 to 1989. These two men oversaw the disbursement for all American funds to the anti-Soviet resistance. Both flatly denied that any CIA funds ever went to bin Laden. They felt so strongly about this point that they agreed to go on the record, an unusual move by normally reticent intelligence officers. Mr. Peikney added in an e-mail to me: “I don’t even recall UBL [bin Laden] coming across my screen when I was there.”
There are many reasons to believe them. They knew where the money went. Both men have retired from the CIA; they have no motive to mouth an agency line. And no compelling evidence has emerged that the CIA ever paid bin Laden: no cancelled checks, no invoices, no government reports.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html#ixzz1gompdjiN
but then I bet you think they’re just part of some NEO-CON plot huh???? duhhh
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:56pmEven if you don’t like Ron Paul, please watch the vid…some good history here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I8NhRPo0WAo
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:50pmHe is highly supported by the military, so does that mean the military doesn’t know what there talking about either? There crazy too? Remember Ya’ll, the Military is seeing face to face. What are you doing? Get info from the media? LOL Riiight..Keep believing
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:02pm“Bin Laden denies it, and so does the CIA”.
So, Bin Laden is somehow a credible source of information?
Kinda like when he said that Al Qaida attacked the USA because it had troops stationed on the Arabian Peninsula, and they considered that to be defiling their holy lands, right?
Oh, wait… that doesn‘t fit the narrative you’ve bought, so Bin Laden MUST have been lying about that.
Kinda like when he said that the goals of Al Qaida were to draw the USA into a swamp, and then cut its legs out from under it economically, by causing it to spend itself into oblivion, and cause the US government to abridge the rights and freedoms of its own people, causing far more damage than Al Qaida could ever manage on its own.
But the USA PATRIOT Act, and later the NDAA 2012 Act, do nothing to those ends. Just go back to sleep. The terrorists are NOT winning. Vote for Gingrich or Romney or even Obama, and you’ll be safe.
Report Post »UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:11pm@Smackdown:
Your “source” is wikipedia? Really?
Did you bother checking the “citations” of the information? Time magazine? Slate magazine? You trust those two to tell you about covert CIA operations?
LOL, that is all.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:20pm“But the USA PATRIOT Act, and later the NDAA 2012 Act, do nothing to those ends. Just go back to sleep. The terrorists are NOT winning. Vote for Gingrich or Romney or even Obama, and you’ll be safe.”
yeah the muslims love us….just put on your burkha and you’ll be fine…
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:23pm“So, Bin Laden is somehow a credible source of information?
Kinda like when he said that Al Qaida attacked the USA because it had troops stationed on the Arabian Peninsula, and they considered that to be defiling their holy lands, right?
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oh and gomer, our own CIA guys say we didn’t supply him….but I bet you think they‘re part of tne NEO CON conspiracy don’t ya?
as far as what bin-laden said about our being in arabian lands….andalusa is arabaian lands according to him…if we weren’t there he would just come up with another reason….
but don’t worry, all you need to do is BOW DOWN…and you’ll be ok.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:27pmNorm D. Plume, spot on.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:03pmThe man’s a complete wacko, how anyone but idiots could support him is beyond me.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:04pm@blattack Guess what? Any one that wants to buy drugs.. can get it.. so stop thinking you coppers are winning the war on drugs. Your losing. Loser
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:26pmDr. Paul is already sending out letters warning people that the corrupt media is switching tactics. Because their media blackout to keep him silent has not worked now Dr. Paul is warning they are switching gears by giving him media coverage but they are going into attack mode. All the new media coverage of Dr. Paul is going to be negative or try to paint him in a negative light in order to stop the bleeding and waning of support of their beloved Gettinrich or Romney the RINO whom they have pre chosen as acceptable candidates for you to think you have a choice to support when they and Obama are one in the same.
Report Post »GOA_AMD65
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:17amBachmann does want to go to war with Islamic countries for no good reason. She has said false propaganda about Iran trying to start another war. Why else would she want to go to war when Iran doesn’t pose a threat to us.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:19amThat is a lie, no doubt planted by the left.
Report Post »Redd
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:24amI wonder if ron paul’s dad hated the japs.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:25amWhat is a lie? You mean what she, herself, said on the last debate? You think that was planted by the Left or are you just not paying attention?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:30am“She has said false propaganda about Iran trying to start another war”
really, what false propoganda?
yeah the dinner-jack just LUVS us…uh huh….
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:42amWell if they have a nuke….shaking my head…OMG
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:17pmBachmann is on the House Intelligence Committee .. clearly she has more information than the rest of us. And I love that she called Paul out as dangerous.
Report Post »GOVT_ABOVE_THE_LAW
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:18pmI heard Paul say was that if Iran is trying to get the bomb and nuke us or Israel then we should declare war and win it. That is what the constitution demands. Why is that so hard for everyone to understand? If there is so much evidence that Iran intends to nuke us, why, then, doesn’t congress get a declaration of war? Play by the rules.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:28pmRush_“we armed the afghan freedom fighters against the soviets”
Who do you think the Afghan freedom fighters were led,trained and operated with? Osama bin Laden.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:31pmUnless we are prepared to go to war with Iran tomorrow, there is nothing to do about Iran getting a nuke. We couldn’t support a war there right now if we wanted to. There is not one candidate that would commit troops against Iran to stop them from producing nukes, it is all bluster and talk.
Report Post »SoulReaver
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:03pmYou are right Iran by itself poses little threat to us. However since 2006 there has been an alliance between Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China. Now that is a threat Bachman knows this and is on the intelligence committee so she has to say what she can without revealing sources. However now all you have to do is read the news we are in real trouble and not just monetarily. Who is going to finance a war against China or Russia. Ron Paul is not on the committee and has no clue on foreign policy other than line up people on the borders. Missiles can fly over people so I don’t think that will work. Read the news man
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:29pmHey dodo, Iran poses a significant threat to us no matter how you want to cut it. Iran is a threat to Israel and a destabilizer of the Middle East.
Never fear, Israel will attack Iran. That you can count upon.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:51pmTaking out Iran‘s nuke sites along with it’s insane leaders makes a lot more sense to me than invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
Report Post »The Bove
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:16amName calling? Really. . Stick to the issues and save the zingers for the left. Very disappointed in Paul as I am when any of the candidates start in fighting. Plenty of points to highlight whats wrong with our current situation. I hear a lot of his supporters making excuses every week when Paul goes off, but never admit he can do any wrong. I‘m glad he’s running but this BS has got to stop. I don’t want to regret signing the petition to allow him to run in my state.
Report Post »BoomSlander
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:22amRon Paul discussed policy issues. The media is only showing you the BS.
That said, Paul needs to point out the glaring flaws with the other candidates.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:35amIt just so happens that the message of Bachmann/Santorum/Romney/Gingrich have hit upon as the ticket to the White House is genocide.
Of course they don’t call it that. But if you posit that the fundamental beliefs of a billion people are fatal to your own culture, nation, and the lives of your children, what you are really saying is that they must be exterminated. And that is what most presidential candidates are saying. Muslims want to destroy us so we must destroy them. The demagogues may or may not actually believe what they are saying. I suspect they don’t believe much of anything. But it doesn’t matter because America is lining up to take part in the slaughter.
This is why the coming economic collapse is good news! They won’t have any money with which to wage their holy war of world destruction.
Report Post »Bill Hitchcock
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:42am“Name calling? Really. . Stick to the issues and save the zingers for the left”
Report Post »Name calling-An Alinsky tactic for sure. Let us hope and pray that “zingers” get left un-zung by conservatives.Who will the un-zung hero of the conservative philosophy?
cykonas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:13pmThe fact that you had to sign a petition should tell you everything you need to know. Why shouldn’t anyone be able to run his or her campaign in any jurisdiction that they so choose? Is an additional choice going to hurt the electorate of the jurisdiction? Are we so stupid that the government has to insure that we don’t have too many choices?
I feel that I have to disclose that I first supported Paul in ‘88 when he was still a Libertarian Party candidate. I did not agree with him 100% then. I still don’t agree with him 100%! But I‘m sure glad that he’s still in there slugging it out. The American People need to get off of the establishment party train and understand that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Who, other than Rep. Paul, champions that Constitution consistently?
Report Post »Capitalizt
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:05pmIt wasn’t name calling he was asked what he thought of them and gave his reply.
Report Post »Seems like a lot of people calling him out on name calling don’t realize that they are name calling at him by calling a “crackpot” or “nuts” .
GFWSR
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:15amFurther proof that Paul is completely in the dark regarding Islam!
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:18amOr further proof your in the dark about foreign policy, drinking way too much coolaid of the corporate owned MSM who doesn’t want to see Ron Paul become president.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:32am“Islam is the world’s second largest religion after Christianity. According to a 2009 demographic study, Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up 23% of the world population.
Islam is the predominant religion in the Middle East, in the Horn of africa, in northern Africa, and in some parts of Asia. Large communities of Muslims are also found in China, the Balkans, and Russia. Other parts of the world host large Muslim immigrant communities; in Western Europe, for instance, Islam is the second largest religion after Christianity, though it represents less than 5% of the total population.
Approximately 50 countries are Muslim-majority. Around 62% of the world’s Muslims live in Asia, with over 683 million adherents. The largest Muslim country is Indonesia home to 12.9% of the world’s Muslims) followed by Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. About 20% of Muslims live in Arab countries. In the Middle East, the non-Arab countries of Turkey and Iran are the largest Muslim-majority countries; in Africa, Egypt and Nigeria have the most populous Muslim communities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Muslim_population
Do you really want to start WW3?
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:52amFurther proof that Neocons will NOT clarify that not all Muslims are bad; the other candidates had the opportunity to let it be clear, but they failed. YOU only fuel the left by leaving it ambiguous. The debate berfore last, Santorum said we need to profile Muslims, because that’s who the problem is. You know, when you get past some of the hypocrite Christians, there are some good ones.
Constitution trumps Sharia Law, not genocide.
Report Post »Fusion Center Commander
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:08pmSomewhere Dick Cheney/Haliburton/KBR is smiling as he hears all the other candidates beating the war drums. Saying that all Muslims are evil is like saying that all Christians are evil by only looking at the KKK. Wake up folks ..do you really believe that a country that cant produce gasoline for itself (Iran) is really gonna start a war with the US/Israel. You are being played by Globalist that want to control all of the Middle East.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:44pm“Constitution trumps Sharia Law, not genocide.”
don’t bet on that….better get fitted for a burkha….
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:30pmFearmongering Rush? I thought you were a just the facts man. As long as you think the Constitution is a G.D. piece of paper as your G_d suggested, then yes, the Constitution will not hold up. Thanks for further clarifying your pro-war, anti-anything that isn’t right-wing Neocon, screw anyone else in process stance. If you can’t stand libs so much, how are you going to survive our globalization that you support?
Report Post »blackchariot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:39pmMuslim hater.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:51pmHell of a lot better to start ww3 now when hey only have 1/4 of the worlds population. Their religion says convert, die, or become a slave. I don’t like any of the 3 choices.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:04pm“Fearmongering Rush? I thought you were a just the facts man”
yeah the fact is you fascist libertarians will surrender to islam.
“As long as you think the Constitution is a G.D. piece of paper as your G_d suggested, then yes, the Constitution will not hold up.”
since its changed on a regular basis by the supreme court…..no it hasn‘t held up isn’t that rather obvious???
“Thanks for further clarifying your pro-war, anti-anything that isn’t right-wing Neocon, screw anyone else in process stance. If you can’t stand libs so much, how are you going to survive our globalization that you support?”
huh?? what are you babbling about? you don’t even make sense…take off the tin-foil…and get back on your meds….
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:15amPaul throwing childish rhetorical bombs. He was judicious in his comments regarding Huntsman for the simple reason that Paul realizes that he himself is bereft of any competence’knowledge regarding foreign policy, not that such skill/knowledge might be important in a candidate. Only the most naive embrace Paul’s Fortress America perspective as sane.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:28amMan, who would have ever thought that the Constitutionaly consistent viewpoint would be considered the radical viewpoint? Then again, I’m talking to crazy people.
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:39amHow can you criticize Paul, when you clearly don’t even understand his position?
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:58am@Roar
Report Post »I am not certain why you think that I do not understand Paul’s positions. Is it that saying things like Bachmann ‘hates’ Muslims & Gays is NOT childish? Or, is it that Paul is NOT an isolationist? Please expand on your comment. Thanks.
Fusion Center Commander
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:27pmThere is a word for people that advocate war and have never been near a war zone in their life. CHICKEN HAWKS. There is also a reason why Ron Paul receives 3 times as many donations from active military than any of the other candidates. Ask yourself why that is. He doesn’t want your son or daughter to die or come home disabled for pointless wars that will wind up in WW3.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:16pmNoninterventionist is not synonymous with isolationist.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:59pmHe is highly supported by the military, so does that mean the military doesn’t know what there talking about either?
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This is happening because the Paul handlers are instructing Paulistas to donate $200 or less and check military. This makes it look like Paul is getting a lot of military donations
colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:05pm@booger71 Seriously? Where’s the hard facts and evidence to back it up?
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14amCan there be a bigger Buffoon than Ron Paul? It’s a tough choice, but I would have to say Biden would be the bigger Buffoon of the two by definition. Ron Paul is certainly closing in on ‘ol Biden though… closing in as if in a competition for buffoon of the decade. Then there is Howard Dean the other Doctor…
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:20amI used to call myself a conservative until the day I realized they were no longer the party that supported the constitution. Its is extremely sad that you would call a champion of the constitution a buffoon. Not that it makes Ron Paul look like one, but rather makes you look like one.
Report Post »We are Americans
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:23amHe could have said per politifact
Report Post »she lies about 70 percent of the time.
He could have said she just throws stuff
out there without checking if it’s true.
He could have said a rock has a better
chance of being president. I think she
hates Muslims and wants to get them is
truthful. It should play well with her
supporters.
YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:33am> CAPTAIN.
“I used to call myself a conservative…”
Enough said by you El Capitan… you made my point all by your lonesome. Ron Paul and his supporters are mere Thrifty-Liberals. TY.
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:39amBrief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
More can be found at http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ron_Paul
Glenn Beck says RP closest to our founders
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyI1EC5i2U
YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:44am> HUMBLE. Nice infomercial, now where can I purchase some Ron Paul “eyebrow toupees?” Lol.
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:01pmAhh faux pas Tea Party Conservatives. You did a great job voting out all of the RINOs in the Nov 2010 elections, but you will gladly vote for a RINO for POTUS. You also thought, that the Patriot Act wouldn’t affect you because since you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. Until..0bama and Napolitano used it to seek out right-wing Conservative Vets & Christians. The Tea-Party saturated House voted for the NDAA also (Allen West included). Still not worried? OUR liberties are disappearing. Your greed and short-sightedness are facilitating the loss.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:51pmOhhhh… “Faux pas? Well anyways… talking about RINO’s… Ron Paul running as a Republican AND as a Conservative? Lmao! Ron Paul is a quasi-(little-c)-conservative-thrifty-liberal-libertarian carpet bag’ging into the GOP.
LOVE Allen West, TY for mentioning his name. A great Patriot!!
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:39pmYep-
Report Post »Allen West voted for indefinite detention, and extension of patriot act. I liked him until then. Hard to claim to be a patriot, and then vote against the constitution.
YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:26pm> HIDDEN.
WEST: “If it’s about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”
That one statement clinched it for me when I was doing research on LTC, USA, RET Allen West. You can reduce this man down to one act, but ME… I looked at his whole Military career to include the incident which caused him to take an early exit from the Army, his civilian service, then on to the House.
Taken as a whole… this man is a Patriot. You can reduce him to a vote if you want, but I’ll go with Patriot.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:08pmThe man took an Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.
And he did that by … voting to extend the USA PATRIOT Act, and voting for a bill which would authorize the government to indefinitely detain US citizens, even those extracted from this country, and take them offshore where American jurisprudence holds no sway.
This man is not a patriot. He is a TRAITOR. He has burned his Oath and has thrown the ashes into your eyes so that you cannot see his duplicity.
GROW UP.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:29pm> NORM. Believe me, I’m all grown up. Yeah, I know there is only one Patriot in this country and THAT patriot is Ron Paul, lol.
Ron Paul has been in congress for over 30 years. He hasn’t gained any more “Sway” in the house than freshman who have just entered the chamber. He’s had many votes where he was among single digit objections to bills and for 30 years that pattern has remained the same. Where do you see “Leadership” potential in Ron Paul? A POTUS must lead, what examples of his leadership in congress are there to draw on… none, nada… NO by Dr No.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:42pmHey Yep, hows the Fam? This is just all the Progressives, just like aYep here blowing their horn people. I cannot believe all you people, the things that are said from all the candidates about all the other candidates in seriousness, then you want to lash out at Paul for trying to be a little funny about it? He was on the Tonight Show. He was trying to make a point and be funny at the same time. Not really Pauls forte’ being a comedian. You all are so quick to go after Paul but you still will not win. Paul’s ideas surpass the establishment candidates ideas.
And yes Yep, you are still a cowardly little man with no family. At least probably no family that likes you anyway.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:19pm> WESCOASTLIBERAL. I’ve been giving you a break lately and trying not to embarrass you, as you tend to do that very well on your own. I’ve turned a new leaf WEST, no more embarrassing you on a public forum.
I do however enjoy reading your comments especially when other posters here flush you down the proverbial terlit. I have told myself (as much as I want to you know) not to jump on this bandwagon no matter how fun it is. I will however , continue to focus on your Great-Great Grandfather… the gift that keeps on giving… Ron Paul, lol. You have been banished into irrelevance WEST.
Say hello to CHER. It was you that said she was a favorate of your’s and that you like Broadway musicals right? Trying to remember the Topic. Yes, now I remember… that WAS you. LMAO!
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:35pmYep-
Report Post »Benedict Arnold would then be a patriot according to your definition. Allen West sold his soul for bigger government. If you have no rights you are not free. If they can grab you and toss into a cell without trial for 10 or more years, you are not free. That one bill is a huge step towards tyranny. That is not the actions of a patriot. That is treason. And when they sign over your gun rights to the UN, that will be the end of the line.
YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:02pm>HIDDEN. Pass that BS off to someone else.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:04pmHey Yep, You just never have your facts straight. Cher? Musicals, of any kind? You are lame. I am into Floyd, Zeppelin, Rush and others like that and political thrillers. But thanks for showing everyone that you just throw out inuendoes without real thought. If any of you think this Tonight Show thing is going to hurt Paul you are crazy. The only people that will let it influence them, just do not have a sense of humor, like you. Say hi to everyone.
Report Post »sandrunner
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14amIt sounds to me that Ron Paul is very bitter man.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:15amHe sounded happy to me. It was a fun night.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:16amI’m quite bitter too. This Government is too big, expansive and too self-righteous. I will vote for the small Government candidate. Gingrich can stuff it. I’ve had enough of all these Big Government is the solution idiots.
Is that bitter enough?
Report Post »ninja
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:32amColt1860: well said
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:41amI’m voting Ron Paul as well.
We can’t go on doing what we have been doing for the last fifty years. We need to STOP! The fact that we have sown the seeds of hate around the world is not an excuse to keep doing it. We need to just stop it and come home. Protect our borders, of course. Retaliate if we are attacked on our home soil, of course. But continue to be the corrupt global thug kicking every hornet’s nest on the planet? No. It must stop. It is unconstitutional, immoral, economically unsustainable, and makes us LESS secure.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:38pm“The fact that we have sown the seeds of hate around the world is not an excuse to keep doing ”
this is delusional and just shows how much you paul-nuts hate america.
I’m sure you blame the rape victim for the rape too…
yeah freeing eastern europe was just awful…I know you libertarians would much rather see the soviet union stil exist…and you hate lincoln..so you libertarians are pro-slavery.
ask the iraqis if they think they’re better off under saddam…oh but he fed people to plastics shredders…I can see why you ‘libertarians’ love murderous socialist dictators so…
Report Post »Fusion Center Commander
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:49pmHardly sounded bitter to me. Ron Paul simply has the balls to tell you the truth and stand up for the values we all should be standing up for. The one thing he always brings up that none of you want to address… HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THESE ENDLESS WARS? In case you havent noticed.. We are broke. Oh wait the FED RESERVE will just print up more DIGITAL MONEY.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:55pmColt1860 Right on the mark! Most people who call themselves conservatives don’t have a clue what a constitutional conservative is.I would say Paul is a constitutional conservative/libertarian and he understands government is too big and intrusive in our lives and stripping us of our liberty and freedoms.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:02pm“HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THESE ENDLESS WARS? ”
why don’t you go ahea and surrender? put on your burkha and move to saudi arabia…then you’ll experience the peace of islam…
get a clue, islam has been at war with all that is not islam for 1,400 years…it won’t end until armageddon….
so you have no problem with the iranians killing our soldiers…supplying ieds to do that huh?
yeah you’re a real patriot….sure…
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:16pmIf Americans really supported the troops — they would listen to them:
Urgent Message from the Troops:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYxPkKGeVKI
hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:49pmRush-
Report Post »We could defend ourselves better if we have a strong base (ie. country) we are in a weak position to repel invaders or defend against any kind of strike. We are wasting billions defending Europe and don’t have adequate defense of our homeland. We have old equipment that is falling apart and won’t hold up against any serious threats. Time is now to consolidate our power and put our house in order. America is becoming the soviet union. We are trading places with them, you vote away our freedom with every RINO you put into office. Without the constitution, there is no America. If you give up one right, you have given up them all. See you at the camp.
Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:11pm@RUSH…
I find it interesting that you will not answer the question posed.
To wit, “How do you propose to pay for these endless wars?”
Your response was, “Get a burka.”
That response did not answer the question posed.
Try again.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:19pm“@RUSH…
I find it interesting that you will not answer the question posed.
To wit, “How do you propose to pay for these endless wars?”
”
just like we pay for everything else…we EARN it…the old fashioned way…how hard is this?
and whats YOUR solution to radical islam? hmmmm????
don’t worry, if we follow your thinking, we‘ll have the peace of islam and we won’t be in any more wars…right.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 4:38am@RUSH…
“We earn it…”
Um… if by “earn it”, you actually mean “borrow it from China”, then yes. We can keep on doing this the same way as we have been doing it.
Until we go humping Iran’s leg. Because, you know, they’re like all allied with China and stuff. Then those trillion dollars of cash and all those bonds come right back on the world market, and our economy crashes. Why not completely disable your enemy without firing a single shot, when your country is now on a war footing anyway, because one of your allies has been attacked? What would China have to lose?
There are a lot more facets to this than, “We gonna go git us some o’ dem der ra-dik-ul muzzle-ems over in Eye-ran.”
What’s my solution? Simple:
Stop poking the hornet’s nest. Trade with them, peacefully. Let them know, however, that the first time we are attacked, and we cannot point to Iran as being right there with their intelligence network (they have a pretty far-flung one — lots of people in the right places to hear lots of interesting details) to warn us of the threat, that we will consider them as having had part in it, and we will flatten them from afar.
It’s simple. It’s easy. It’s cheap. It’s Constitutional. It’s fair. It’s just. It’s right.
Report Post »rightwinger76
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:53pmThere is a family somewhere missing their crazy uncle Ron.
Report Post »rightwinger76
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:57pmThere sure seems to be a lot of Blazers that are willing to sabotage our country simply because their candidate can’t win. It sounds a lot like the school-yard brat who takes his ball home as soon as he starts to lose the game.
Report Post »c.foster4722
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:12amRon Paul would sell this country out even faster than Obama is doing
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:16amThat would be impossible.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:18amSell it to who? He’s the only that is not bought by any special interests or huge corporation. He follows no personal agenda. Maybe the Constitution is outdated afterall, even for Conservatives?
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:23amI know what you mean…that pesky Constitution. I wish we could do away with it….Go Newt Go
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:27amWhat’s your solution to this plague of Islam? Shall we become the Nazis and commit (more) genocide? Shall we forgo freedom of religion and ban it here? Shall we force Muslims into camps? Shall we spit on Muslims when we walk by them? Vandalize a mosque? Poke them with a stick? Look upon them with mistrust and disdain? Beat them up in dark parking lots? Pre-emptively invade and bomb every country with a population that’s over 50% Muslim?
Since you know so much about Islam, surely you must have the answers.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:34am“What’s your solution to this plague of Islam? Shall we become the Nazis and commit (more) genocide? Shall we forgo freedom of religion and ban it here? ”
the notion that we have commited genocide is insane…you must be a serious nut-case to say that. why don’t you leave this genocidal country and go to iran where you will feel at home?
and yes we should ban islam…its much more than a religion….and its incompatible with freedom…
CHARLES MARTEL knew best.
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:06pmThen Rush, you accept that we should go to war with all of Islam and not the fight the responsible? Just admit: You WANT to shed American blood so YOU can sleep good at night. Forget we have Constitutional Law that prevents any other form of law from taking hold in this country, right? Just go to war? Just admit it.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:19pm“Then Rush, you accept that we should go to war with all of Islam and not the fight the responsible”
hey gomer, didn’t say all of islam…said iran….get a clue….
they’ve been at war since the ayatollahs took over…whats your solution? oh yeah, put your head in the sand, bow down, and hope they’ll be nice to us….that’ll work wonders…
didn’t 9/11 teach you anything??
oh and the constitution isn’t a suicide pack…we can go to war…get a clue.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:18pm@Rush is Right…Yes 9/11 taught me quite a bit…it took me 8 years, but finally I learned.
Report Post »jagr1850
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:11amthree stooges would be better leaders than the odummy regime…..MOE…LARRY AND CURLY 2012
Report Post »Redd
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:20amWe already have Mo and Barry.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:10amSorry Rand… but your father has went around the bend.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:30amLook at all these noob screen names posting stuff 5 times because they don’t see it immediately. lol
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:10amRon speaks the truth. I hate Muslims too, but I don’t want to kill them in a war unless they act out. Then bomb them back to the stone age, look ma, no troops…, I want to leave Muslim countries alone to see the Sunnies and the Shiites kill each other off. They will too. If we would just leave them alone.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:15amGood point.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:23amThe Muslims have already acted out. Where have you been hiding… BAD, BAD, DOGGY, lol.
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:32amBAGDADDY – Oh we know that Ron walks on water and no one can do it better that this Elmer Fudd look alike.
Let’s face it, you left out Ron Paul’s most important promise – legalizing Pot. What kind of BS political promise is this. Now all the Pop smokers in America are supporting this Whack O. He’s not going to win the Nomination, but he will guaranty Obama a 2nd term.
America is getting sold out by self indulging druggies. In America today a company has to go through 8 jop applicants to get one applicant that can pass a drug test.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:34amTell the truth to neo-cons or progressives, and they squeak like cockroaches.
Ron Paul Rocks
Report Post »barnsy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:38amIslam is a religion of peace!……HAHAHAHAHA…sorry, I couldnt keep a straight face. Muslims have been a black plague on the world since that warmongering pediphile Mohamed started the cult!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:45am@db321 He can’t legalize any Pot. He believes this is a State issue BECUASE the federal Constitution confers no Powers to the National Government to govern in matters of drugs. We already know the huge failure that alcohol prohibition initiated by Progressives through the federal Government was. Heck, not even California was able to legalize marijuana in a popular vote not too long ago. The argument is moot and irrelevant. The President can not legalize marijuana.
The ATF should be a convenience store, not a Government agency.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:36amColt, This establishment style article on paul has just brought out an unusual array of Progressives in here to bash Paul. They do not have a clue. They should all watch the entire Paul segment, and then listen to Joe Rogan afterwards. http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/12/ron-paul-with-jay-leno-dec-16-2011/
Report Post »c.foster4722
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:10amRon Paul would sell this country out even faster than that trator whos in the white house now.
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14amYou mean to say that if the president actually followed his oath to defend and protect the constitution he would be selling it out? What planet of diluted thought are from? That wouldn’t make him a sellout, that would make him a Patriot!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:18amA return to the Constitution would be selling out our country? Are you insane????????
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:18amImpossible. At least Paul looks to upholding our constitution – BHO wants to destroy it!
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:24amGreat, well-rounded argument!
Report Post »limitedgovt
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:09amMight be too strong a statement, but Bachmann is naive in the sense that she wants to commit our soldiers and fortune to large-scale ground wars directed at entire countries rather than directly targeting terrorists. Paul is right when he opposes nation-building and wants to defend THIS country.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:08amWell I guess it is ok to call Ron Paul the Anti-semite that he is and stated in his own publication. It is now fair game. Sorry ron you are trying to cover your own bigotry
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:16amYour going off old propaganda that has been debunked since the last debate. Ron Paul never wrote any anti semite papers. Do a little research like Glenn says and you‘ll find that you really shouldn’t put so much stock in the MSM.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:20amNewsmax: What should our relationship be with Israel?
Paul: We should be their friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy.
newsmax.com/InsideCover/paul-israel-support-wead/2011/12/07/id/420247
Yeah, because wanting to be Israel’s friend and trading partner is now Anti-Semite. Please.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:27amThe Ron Paul newsletters have not been debunked… just forgotten about. Ron Paul will be toasted once again if his “Revolution” gains any real traction. Ron Paul’s “ghosts” and “ghost writers” will return to haunt him in the present. Like his stance on drugs, the commercials will write themselves…
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:27amCaptain77 you just made my point. Feels a little different when the shoe is on the other foot. Paul is wrong. You point is correct in helping prove that.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:27am“Ron Paul never wrote any anti semite papers”
yeah just like he never knew who wrote all those vile racists things in his newsletter…
yeah he’s just a victim…sure…
oh hey I got a bridge to sell ya…..
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:37amAh, yes. Those darling Newsletters. Oh, the tragedy. Like if the MSM doesn’t have something digged up about every candidate.
Report Post »ninja
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:40amIf the President ( and congress & Supreme court) heeds the limitations imposed by the Constitution, it is of no consequence if the person in that position is an anti-Semite or bigot or queer or philanderer or vegan or whatever. The Constitution does not allow for personal biases to be part of governmental decisions.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:42am“Ah, yes. Those darling Newsletters. Oh, the tragedy. Like if the MSM doesn’t have something digged up about every candidate.”
yeah his name is on them….time for him to man-up and take responsibility instead of the lame ‘I don’t know’ right. its pathetic.
you know I’ve read lew rockwell…even had an email conversation with him…he’s nuts…
do you think lincoln was a tyrant too? from reading lewrockwell…it sure sounds like you ‘libertarians’ are fine with slavery….
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:50am@rush_is_right Just like Cain “manned up”? Oh brother, let me not start.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:01pmIf this will be any matter, to those newspapers, MSM with Hannity and big O’, will already have the one who wrote it. They did found the truth, and it will not help to support they theory, of RP being bigot.
Report Post »But they will start to harp, same old question. That is their job, to jab.
Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:52pmIn total seriousness, please post a link to substantiate the antisemitic claim. The “racism” claims went back to the LA/Rodney King riots and the use of actual demographic data (I.e. disproportional crime committed by minorities) even though it was not written by Rep. Paul himself. I am unaware of any statements Rep. Paul has made against Judaism. (Semitic btw doesn’t only refer to Jews, but I‘m sure that’s what your accusation claims.)
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:02pmBesides Lew Rockwell (as very, very close friend of Paul’s ’till this day) and Murray Rothbard “ghostwriting” for Paul’s racist newsletters, the Cato Institute President Ed Crane told a publication he recalls a conversation from some time in the late 1980s in which Paul claimed that his best source of congressional campaign donations was the mailing list for The Spotlight, the conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic tabloid run by the Holocaust denier Willis Carto until it folded in 2001.
The early 1990′s newsletter writings became liabilities and have continued to be for Paul, but his new crop of fans either don‘t know or don’t care. Back in 1996, Paul narrowly eked out a congressional victory over Democrat Lefty Morris, who made the newsletters one of his main campaign issues, damning them both for their racial content and for their advocacy of drug legalization. At the time, Paul defended the statements that appeared under his name, claiming that they expressed his “philosophical differences” with Democrats and had been “taken out of context.” He finally disavowed them in a 2001 interview with Texas Monthly, explaining that his campaign staff had convinced him at the time that it would be too “confusing” to attribute them to a ghostwriter. Lol.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:27pmWhere are the excerpts of Rep. Paul’s antisemitic comments? Post a link to them please, thanks.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:50pmI personally don’t post links. You will have to decide on your own who wrote the racist and anti-semetic remarks in Ron Paul’s newsletters. If your name is on it… you own it. I personally belive it was Lew Rockwell and Murray Rothbard based on the evidence.
But again… if your name is on it… you own it. Ron Paul owns this and more.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:57pmThe newsletter issue goes back to the 1990s, and what some considered racist comments. My question is specifically about the allegations of antisemitic remarks or writings. If you don’t want to simply post a link just copy, paste and credit sources. Anyone who has such a powerful weapon of attack against Rep. Paul wouldn’t mind you exposing others to such a truth.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:05pmYou either have a Harley or you don’t. You either have a Corvette or you don’t. Put up or STFU!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:58pmYes, I actually have a Corvette. ‘67 Corvette Stingray. Mint condition, all original.
As far as STFU? No.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:12pmGood for you, they’re nice cars, but you still haven’t proven your point, so I’ll help you out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoUeJTx9tcQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Enjoy a helping of what Rep. Paul’s racism has wrought.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:21pm@Yepyouraneocon without proof of your claims, you can’t be taken seriously. Thanks for proving my point.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:00pmLmao@ VL. I don’t provide links, nor do I click on anyone elses. I could give a rats behind what you think, don’t think, might think. Makes absolutely no diff to me. You are just another in a long string of nattering Paul nabobs who think if it can‘t be posted in a link it doesn’t exist. Well, based on my comments above, you are actually arguing with yourself based on what it is that you are looking for and what I’ve told you. If you can’t do the research for yourself, you’re SOL. it’s not my job to hold your hand VL. Ask your mammy to provide a sugar teet.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:15pmWhat a dumbass. Just stay down and bleed. It’s not even fun beating up on you anymore.
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:08amNotice how when asked what the role of government should be Ron Paul referred to the Constitution? Now why the hell can‘t or won’t the other presidential candidates do the same thing? After all, it is an oath to protect and defend the constitution that one makes when taking the office of president. RON PAUL 2012!
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:15amExactly, and here it is….
Report Post »http://youtu.be/7kqVZUCRth0?t=13m53s
TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:36pmThey also take it when they become Representatives and Senators as well. I only know of one person that has kept that oath and that’s Ron Paul.
I know what part of Ron’s problem is. He thinks faster than his mouth can carry the message. I have the same problem, so did Thomas Jefferson, he was no great orator. So people tend to misunderstand things when he’s up there trying to cram in as much as he can in the short time they allow him in the debates.
Speaking of, the question he was asked about the ear marks went right over Bret’s head, and I would venture to say, most everyone else’s. I caught it. He has never voted for an ear mark, but he does place them in bills because it’s in the interest of his district to do so and they expect that of him. He is doing what the people he represents wants. Here’s how it works. Place it in a bill that you know is going to pass because the vast majority want to pass it. You know it‘s unconstitutional and won’t vote for the bill. You don’t vote for the bill, yet your district gets the money. You’ve taken care of BOTH, the people of your districts wishes and your oath to uphold the Constitution. After all, that‘s what you’re THERE for is to represent the wishes of the people who put you there.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:08amHere’s the link to the WHOLE INTERVIEW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMUZIVYuluc
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:45amColt,
When the spotlight is on your candidate, all bets are off (ask Rick Perry and Herman Cain). Sound-bytes, people with shady pasts making dubious accusations, and the press willing to twist a statement into a pretzel are all part of the process. Add to that a public all too ready to lap up every last drop they are fed.
In thirty years, Ron Paul has never had the lime-light on him before as a presidential candidate and this is just the start. He will be vetted as harshly/unfairly as all of the rest. Just wait ‘till the real games start after he wins or comes close to winning an early State, then you will not believe what/who will come out of the woodwork to smear him into an amorphous blob of organic material.
Do not expect those who were personally attacked by Paul supporters for defending their troubled candidates to do anything more than to help further fester any wounds that are inflicted upon Dr. Paul. While you have generally behaved yourself, other vitriolic and proxy/personal attacks (like many I have seen on this site and elsewhere), tend to back-fire when the shoe is on the other foot. The machine is well established, it is warming up and Dr. Paul is not immune to its black magic. Be well.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:07amI’d like to ask Bachmann:
“IRAN has the largest JEWISH minority of ALL islamic countries (25,000 people)
If Iran wanted to kill all Jews, why don´t they start at home?”
The following article is from a Jewish website
Report Post »http://www.sephardicstudies.org/iran.html
rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:10amwhy bother catching minnows when you can go for the big fish?
they’re playing for much larger stakes.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:11amThey do..
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14amWhy don’t you moe to Iran, Iwill pay your one way ticket, and where a star of David on your clothing? The fate your would have earned.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:31amThey want to destroy Israel because they believe the LAND is theirs. Not because they’re jews.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:33amGood one, Neil Patrick Henry
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:19pmSo “it’s them“ or ”it’s us”?
That’s the choice you give me?
Perhaps, the true answer is in the middle!
Fortunately, YOU don’t govern my choices.
Report Post »Your logic is the type that says “send all blacks to Africa.”
No solutions — just insults.
YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:55pmFunny a Ron Paul acolyte writing about sending all Blacks to Africa ina rebuttal… as if he’s not in agreement with that idea, lol.
We know that Murray Rothbard (a Ron Paul and Paul supporter hero) spoke kindly of David Duke, the KKK office seeker. One disaffected libertarian was dismayed that Rothbard would seek to align himself with a pure racist just because he believed in limited government. The only reason that Rothbard did not back a “separate state for Blacks” when the idea was proposed, was because he was afraid it would cost too much in “foreign aid” he stated.
There is a strong racial tension in libertarian thought. Ron Paul’s newletters had racist thoughts in them, although Dr Paul stated they were put in his publications without his knowledge (hmmmm)… but these were mistakes that are significant.
But even Rand Paul made a racial gaff right after he won the Senate seat, that he regretted (under pressure), when he said he was for the repeal of the 1964 civil rights act. Ron Paul stated he would have never voted for it in the first place. It would seem that the racial/libertarian theme continues in Rand Paul politics just as it has played in Ron Paul politics from the start.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:25pmYou do realize that Murray Rothbard was a Jew, right?
And so was Mises.
These people were intellectual inspirations to Ron Paul, as well as his contemporaries.
So, Paul is obviously anti-Semitic. And because of that, he must therefore be a racist, too, because we can’t just paint someone with the “Klan” brush, without making sure we have complete coverage. Wouldn’t want to miss a spot, now…
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:56pm“So, Paul is obviously anti-Semitic. And because of that, he must therefore be a racist, too, because we can’t just paint someone with the “Klan” brush, without making sure we have complete coverage. Wouldn’t want to miss a spot, now…”
he sure is a racist…all those racist quotes in his newsletters…but that never upsets ‘libertarians’
libertarian motto: liberty for white people I agree with….
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:01pm> NORM.
“You do realize that Murray Rothbard was a Jew, right?”
“And so was Mises”
My answer….. Yes I do know…. so what?
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:06amI really dont care who the nominee is, all of them would be much much better than our Thief in Chief……In fact a dead and rotting roadside racoon would get my vote over Obama, dead racoons can do no damage………..
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:11amor even smoldering poo…
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:56pm“So far Paul is the only candidate that hasn‘t been caught ’misquoting’ facts and figures.”
To discredit Paul all you have to do is use his quotes. No need to fact check.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:05amfunny how all these ‘libertarians’ sound just like liberals…
just another sign paul has lost the argument…but then when you don’t have facts, history, or logic on your side….call your opponent names….
how Alinsky of paul….
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:12amI think your missing something here Rush… Here is a key thing to notice in that interview. When asked what the role for government should be, Ron Paul said the its defined in the Constitution. For decades, more than a libertarian, Ron Paul has been a Constitutionalist. Every single vote he cast can be found to be Constitutionally sound. Therefore, if you have a problem with Ron Paul, you have a problem with the Constitution. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If you have a problem with it, then why don‘t you go to a country that doesn’t have one and see how well you fair.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:12amDon’t forget .. that is exactly what his supporters do also. I was listening to someone who studies campaigns and he noted that they are the most negative towards others with personal attacks and name calling … and that they won’t “win anyone over” with such an attitude and posting talking points over and over and over again.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:17amAhhhhhhhhh, you do not understand one thing about Ron Paul do you? Nope…you stick your head in a neocons backside and love it. You should do yourself a favor and study Dr. Paul’s positions like I and many more have done. I used to be just like you…Then I listened and studied and opened my mind to what he was saying.
Report Post »But go on with your perpetual wars and nation building. Keep ;istening to Rush..even when he is 100% wrong. Pay for these wars and interventions and rebuilding programs yourself. Please allow me to opt out.
By the way…How do you like paying for that one BILLION dollar embassy builing in Iraq? Not to mention the TRILLION dollars that war cost us. Yes, I think I can safely call you a name…FOOL!
rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:19am“Therefore, if you have a problem with Ron Paul, you have a problem with the Constitution”
uh huh sure…you do know our founders went to war to defend our country right? Jefferson attacked the barbary pirates…ie muslims that were enslaving out people….what would Ron paul do?? hmmm??
so according to you, we can’t defend ourselves because of our constitution huh??? delusional.
Iran wants to nuke us…..and no deterrence will work…this isn’t china, or the soviet union….Paul doesn’t understand the nature of the enemy…
and to use these alinsky talking points shows that he’s basically a liberal….
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:21am“Ahhhhhhhhh, you do not understand one thing about Ron Paul do you? Nope…you stick your head in a neocons backside and love it. ”
yeah I do..he’s a nut-case..just like you.
I’ve read lewrockwell…even had an email conversation with him…he’s a bitter hateful wacko…and he attacked bush over iraq just like the far left did…
so do you think lincoln was a TYRANT too? you ‘libertarians’ apparently have no problems with slavery…from reading that wacko web site.
“But go on with your perpetual wars and nation building. Keep ;istening to Rush..even when he is 100% wrong. Pay for these wars and interventions and rebuilding programs yourself. Please allow me to opt out.
Report Post »”
get a clue gomer, the muslims have been at war with us for 1,400 years…why don’t you just submit and put a burkha?
rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:23am“Don’t forget .. that is exactly what his supporters do also. I was listening to someone who studies campaigns and he noted that they are the most negative towards others with personal attacks and name calling … and that they won’t “win anyone over” with such an attitude and posting talking points over and over and over again.”
very true…his supporters are liberals…I can’t tell any difference between the two…they’re both hate-filled nut-cases….
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:24amSo far Paul is the only candidate that hasn‘t been caught ’misquoting’ facts and figures.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:25amThe libertarians are abot half right and the conservatives are about half right. I wonder the possibility of melding the two correct original intent halves together? The The Teaparty seems to be trying.
Report Post »The Libertarians are half wrong on what the original intent is. It is funny in a way if it was not so serious. Libertarians should pay attention to david barton.
rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:25am“How do you like paying for that one BILLION dollar embassy builing in Iraq? Not to mention the TRILLION dollars that war cost us. Yes, I think I can safely call you a name…FOOL!”
oh a whole billion dollars…yeah…your savior’s porkulus cost us more than war in iraq…FOOL…
you must be in a great deal of pain…such stupidity has to hurt…
I know you would prefer saddam still be in power…you libs love murderous dictators who feed people to plastics shredders…
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:30amI am for the Jew..but BIBI has stated that he has not asked our men to die for them and neither has Israel asked for foriegn aide..He said that they are a soviergn nation and can fight their own wars..We have stood in her way..remember Bush refusing to let her go after them after 9/11? We give 10x more aide to her enemies than to her.. The Constitition is what we seek..Has being in these wars kept Muslims out of our country..no..we have a Muslim for President and 3 million of them here now.. If Iran gets a nuke…she won’t last long..Her nuclear facility was already destroyed.. Biblical prophecy says that God Himself gathers the nations to go against Israel..at which time Jesus saves them. At that time their eyes are opened to Jesus as Saviour and Lord..but only qone third will hold to their newly found faith and will be counted among the elect to go into the millenial kingdom.. I am conservative..but I support a libertarian..because we have lost too many freedoms and we are now broken…16 trillion as of yesterday. either we will no longer have access to money in which case we will be totally overtaken..or we can build our military here at home and stay to ourselves..keep jobs and money here and with the Peter Schiff economics..get back in the black..or we can get ready go through tribulations..in which case it will be time anyway and the ones of us planning to be with the Lord..had best make the neccessary adjustments in our lives..time is short.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:46amHmmmmmmmmm I see you name calling now…asn’t that your point on your original post? hahahaha…Name calling bad? You said so, so stop it! LOL
Our founders did not attack the barbary pirates. They were defending our way of life. We did not impose anything on them. Study your histoty, you do not know it. I suggest reading the Federalist Papers but your 5th grade education would get in your way i suppose…
Ron Paul 2012…I hope you will like him when he is your PRESIDENT!
Report Post »mattsanz
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:47amThe USA put saddam in power.
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:05pm@ Rush_Is_Right:
It’s pretty clear that you have no clue what a libertarian is, because if you actually did know you‘d realize that libertarians aren’t anywhere close to being what is now known as a “liberal.” Libertarians espouse and wholeheartedly believe in something that neocons such as yourself proclaim to love: smaller government and greater freedoms for individuals. If you bothered to do your research for a change instead of just throwing out generic neocon talking points you might actually figure that out.
Also, gotta love one of your earlier posts saying that Islam should be banned. That darned 1st Amendment always seems to get in the way doesn’t it?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:27pm“Hmmmmmmmmm I see you name calling now…asn’t that your point on your original post?”
hmmmm you can dish it out, but you can’t take it…LOL….better get yourself fitted for a burkha!!
“Our founders did not attack the barbary pirates. They were defending our way of life.”
oh so you think 9/11 is our fault…just proves what a nut-case you and paul are…
he’ll never be president….his racism will be played up so much, no one but you wacko libertarians will ever vote for him.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:32pm“The USA put saddam in power.”
delusional.
“Libertarians espouse and wholeheartedly believe in something that neocons such as yourself proclaim to love: smaller government and greater freedoms for individuals. ”
what BS. I’ve read your web site, you ‘libertarians’ HATE lincoln…and apparently have no problem with slavery…
you ‘libertarians’ are pro-abortion….so no liberty for the most innocent among us…
you ‘libertarians’ are pro-gay marriage…which will take away the freedom of speech and religion for christians who disagree…
you libertarians sure attacked bush and sounded just like the liberals…..ie fascist nut-cases…
so yeah I know you uh ‘libertarians’ pretty well…and you’re also a bunch of anti-semites…you use the word ‘neo-con’ and mean jews…
“Also, gotta love one of your earlier posts saying that Islam should be banned. That darned 1st Amendment always seems to get in the way doesn’t it?”
but it won‘t get in the way of you ’libertarians’ and your fascist gay marriage allies when it comes to eliminating freedom for christians….
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:52pmRush_Is_Right, it’s amusing to see you continue to put your foot in your mouth, but I’m gonna do my best to (hopefully) get you to realize how foolish your statements sound.
1) You said you read “my” website, but that‘s impossible because I DON’T HAVE A WEBSITE. Nice try though.
Report Post »2) I’m not pro-abortion, and I know a lot of libertarians who also are not pro-abortion. In my experience it‘s an issue that libertarians generally don’t seem to be able to reach a consensus on.
3) I think of myself as less “pro gay marriage” and more “anti big government.” The government, to put it bluntly, doesn‘t have the right to dictate who can and can’t enter into what is essentially a private business contract. Also, how does letting gays get married infringe upon the right of someone to speak their mind on the subject?
4) So criticizing Bush automatically makes you a “fascist nutcase” now? Even though he was responsible for TARP and the first bailout, both of which I’m guessing you blame on Obama and are unhappy with him about?
5) So when I refer to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and George Bush Sr. and Jr. and Ronald Reagan as Neocons, I’m calling them Jews? Even though none of them are? By the way, I fully support Israel’s right to statehood and have a number of Jewish friends.
6) Once again, since you brought it up twice, how does allowing gays to marry infringe upon the rights of Christians to express their displeasure with that process?
dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:56pmOne more thing Rush_Is_Right, I’m not pro slavery, nor are any other of the libertarians I know. Just figured I needed to clarify that too, seeing as if I didn‘t I’m sure you’d harp on my lack of response to your accusation as a virtual admission of guilt.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:08pm1) lewrockwell is the libertarian web site…its wacky.
2) many libertarians are pro-abortion…no liberty for unborn babies…
3) so should polygamy and pedophilia be legal too? pedophilia is just another sexual orientation…and tell the catholic charities in MA who lost the right to practice their religion in regard to adoptions…thanks to the fascist gays and their fascist ‘libertarian’ allies…same for that doctor in CA whom the supreme court of CA said didn’t have freedom of speech and religion when it comes to gays…
4) yeah when you sound just like the wacko liberals…yes…and thats what lewrockwell..the libertarian flagship…and paul’s former chief of staff I believe…said.
5) neo-con has become a code-word for jews…and their supporters.
6) I just told. you….here get a clue…
Marc D. Stern, whose many years handling religious freedom cases for the American Jewish Congress have made him an expert in the area, can hardly be identified as a conservative agitator. Yet he firmly believes that legal recognition of same-sex marriage will make clashes with religious liberty “inevitable.”
“No one seriously believes that clergy will be forced, or even asked, to perform marriages that are anathema to them,” Mr. Stern has written. But for other individuals and institutions opposed on religious grounds to same-sex marriage, its legal acceptance would have “substantial impact.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/10/us/10beliefs.html
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:12pm“One more thing Rush_Is_Right, I’m not pro slavery, nor are any other of the libertarians I know. Just figured I needed to clarify that too, seeing as if I didn‘t I’m sure you’d harp on my lack of response to your accusation as a virtual admission of guilt”
again, from lew rockwell…given their attacks on lincoln as a tyrant..they seem to have no problems with slavery…
one example..of many..
St. Abraham’s War and Current Foreign Policy
by Walter Block
A century and a half after the war against Southern secession, the foreign policy of our country is still hampered by this tragic event. That is, had the war of federal aggression not taken place, had the South been allowed to leave peacefully, America would be in a far better position to exert a positive direction on several events which trouble the globe at the present time.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block16.html
yeah let em keep slaves…according the the ‘libertarians’…..liberty for some..but then Paul doesn’t like black people now does he? at least according to his racist newsletters….looks like ‘libertarians’ only want liberty for white people they agree with…
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:25pmHere we go again Rush_Is_Right:
1) I‘ve never read this Lew Rockwell’s website. Nor have any of the libertarians I know. It‘s hardly what I’d call the definitive libertarian website. Check the Cato Institute (cato.org) for real libertarian insight.
Report Post »2) Good for most libertarians. Last time I checked, Ron Paul isn’t one of them (pro-abortion, that is).
3) I have no problem with polygamy being legal for the same reasons as gay marriage. It‘s not the government’s right to say who can and can’t get married. Pedophilia is different simply because you’re dealing with people who are not of a legal age of consent, and I don’t know any libertarians who think pedophilia should be legal. It’s most certainly not on the same plane as gay marriage, AKA a consenting contract between two grown adults.
4) The impression I get from your constant defense of Bush is that you basically think he was perfect and made no mistakes. Is this the case?
5) You still haven’t answered my question: when I refer to people like Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly, both Bushes etc… as Neocons, I’m somehow calling them Jewish? Even though I know they’re not? (By the way, most of the Jews I know are Democrats, so they’re hardly Neocons.)
6) That quote you provided even admits that there will be no forcing of clergy to perform gay marriages. Sure it could be a clash of ideas, but that’s what the 1st amendment is all about: protecting people from being persecuted by government for their ideas and/or
dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:29pmI’m not going to bother arguing with you anymore Rush_Is_Right. It’s clear that in your mind you know what I (and most libertarians) think better than we do. There’s no way I nor anybody else is going to get through to you about how wrong you are, no matter what we say or what evidence we provide. It’s awfully progressive of you to think that you know us better than we know ourselves, FWIW.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:36pm“1) rockwell was paul’s chief of staff…need I say more???
3) of course you’re Ok with polygamy….anything goes…and pedophilia will use the same justification as gay marriage…its inborn…..its a sexual orientation..I would say get a clue, but you can’t.
4) this just shows how ignorant you are…and unable to answer my points…when you sound like michael moore..then you libertarians are liberals….if it walks like a duck…etc..
5) you ‘libertarians’ use neo-con as a code word for jews…how hard is this?
6) thanks for proving you’re a fascist…you ‘libertarians’ don’t care about rights except for those who agree with you
oh and you haven’t provided any evidence…your word is meaningless….get a clue…oh but if you could you wouldn’t be a wacko fascist libertarian.
and I notice you couldn’t condemn that article about letting the south go….thats mighty WHITE of you….
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:47pmHave a nice one, Rush_Is_Right.
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:11pmRUSH_IS_RIGHT .. let me fill you in on something. Libertarians have one motto. Liberty for ALL. Now, what is liberty? The right to do whatever one wants AS LONG AS it doesn‘t interfer with another person’s right to life, liberty. The way Libertarians think is this. If there is no victim then there should be no crime. What I do to myself is MY business. How I live my life is MY business and nobody else’s. NOBODY has the right to tell ANYONE how to live, what to think, how to act so long as the other person is not hurting anyone. I don’t think two men or two women should be married but, that’s my opinion and I have the right to think that way. Do I have the right to tell them ‘no, you can‘t because I don’t believe that way?‘ I don’t believe in abortion either. I DO believe there should be a law against it. Why? you might ask? Because there is another life involved. It might be a woman’s body and she might have a right to do with it as she pleases, but that baby is NOT her body so she does NOT have the right to do with IT as she please. Now, if she wants to drug herself up, booze it up, smoke it up, etc… that’s her problem. I don’t have to do it nor be around her or him for that matter, but to tell them ‘you can’t‘ simply because it’s repugnant to my moral sensibilities is just plain wrong. That’s not liberty, that’s religion forcing itself on others. Pedophiles are harming someone else. Children should be protected.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:45pm“liberty for all”
uh yeah sure…any comment about leaving the south go its own way with slavery?
didn’t think so.
“I don’t think two men or two women should be married but, that’s my opinion and I have the right to think that way”
of course you do…just don‘t do or say anything that they don’t approve of and you’ll be fine…..liberty for some…..and some have more liberty than others…thats the ‘libertarian’ way.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:01pmCAPTAIN77 how many laws has challenged in court? The guy is a BS artist. And a do nothing one at that.
Report Post »1001001
Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:35amwow. i’ve been reading your responses, rush is right, and i have to say i’m seriously taken aback. i’m almost worried. where does your anger come from? when did you become so hateful and why? it doesn’t seem to be aimed only at islam, but also at americans that are trying to keep the republic intact. if you are for real and not some paid shill, how about turning off the radio for a month or two. don’t let rush limbaugh think for you. see how you’re treating your fellow countrymen? with insults. don’t you think this is a time to work together to save the country? you do know this is up to us, right? anger and belligerence is no way to treat those that are trying to work with you. i don‘t pretend you’ll listen to me, and i expect a venomous response. i know you don’t care what i think (why should you, you don’t know me), however we are all in the same boat. peace, brother, be still.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:04amLooking at all the Ron Paul fans gives me insight on how ended up Obama 3 years ago!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:13pmFunny thing the Paulbots act like they don’t know who Lew Rockwell is…….
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:20pmI’m a Paul supporter and I know who Lew Rockwell is. I‘m a libertarian leaning Republican and Lew Rockwell doesn’t tell me how to think. I‘ve learned a lot from Judge Napolitano’s Freedom Watch and Peter Schiff. I’m staunchly pro-life, it’s my #1 issue. I subscribe to the viewpoint that you should be able to do whatever you want, on two conditions: 1) You don’t harm anyone else with your actions and 2) You take responsibility for your actions and don’t expect government to bail you out when you screw up.
Regarding Lincoln, many libertarians, including Schiff, believe the south would have eventually collapsed and slavery would have ended without the war. Peter is an expert on economics and he makes the argument in economic terms. He said slavery is much less effcient and more costly for the owner than a free market with free workers working for profit. Slave owners had to feed, house and provide health care for their slaves. The slaves had no incentive to work hard since they didn’t benefit from their labor. With free people working for a plantation owner, the worker has the incentive of a profit to work hard and the employer doesn’t have to feed, clothe, house, and provide health care for the worker (unless it’s part of the contract). In short, slavery is not only immoral, it’s bad economics. It‘s not that we’re in favor of slavery; it’s that we recognize the terrible side effect of the war, which was the erosion of states’ sovereignty and mass
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:34pm-ive federal government. I‘ve also heard that Lincoln actually said he was okay with slavery and the war wasn’t even about slavery to begin with. Careful about the idolizing of Lincoln as though he could do no wrong. I’m too lazy to look up whether this is true, do your own research, but I’m not making it up, either. The civil war was the beginning of the end of the 10th amendment. Look where we are now. And we have Dittoheads on here claiming Paul supporters are racists who love slavery simply because we point out the awful side effects of the civil war. We libertarians are in favor of freedom for everyone, regardless of race. Of course we’re not in favor of slavery. Rush Is Right, I can tell from some of your posts that you’re regurgitating things you hear from Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin (like the whole “neo-con” means Jew comment – straight from Levin). I’m sure you have good intentions, but I hope you’ll look further into the issues before coming to these conclusions about people you disagree with. For some reason, Rush and Levin are on a jihad against Ron Paul. Apparently, in order to be a good Republican/conservative, you must be in favor of undeclared wars because Levin/Rush would agree with almost all of Ron Paul’s other views. They disagree with Romney and Gingrich on a lot more than they disagree with Paul, yet they save all of their anger and resentment for Congressman Paul, while carrying Romney and Gingrich’s water.
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:59pmDrSavage24, thanks for hitting the nail on the head. I’m not sure I agree 100% with the “let the South secede and watch it crumble instead of fighting the war” belief, but it is at least a coherent argument that made me think as opposed to a series of talking points from some guy on the radio.
Also, I’ll restate it one last time for Rush_Is_Right, who clearly didn’t get it when I posted it the first time: neither I nor Ron Paul nor any libertarian I know is anti-Israel or anti-semitic. We all believe that Israel has a right to be a sovereign state and that they share a common set of values and morals with the US, and because of that we should engage in a friendly political/economic relationship with them. That does not mean, however, that it is our job to serve as their personal bodyguard. In fact, judging by the comments of some of their leaders it seems Israel isn’t too high on that idea themselves.
Sadly, no matter how eloquently anybody explains these thoughts to people like Rush_Is_Right, they won‘t get it because they don’t want to get it. This stems not from a lack of intelligence or a lack of capacity for rational thought, but rather a stubborn insistence on never looking at other ideas and thinking critically about them.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 9:22am“DrSavage24, thanks for hitting the nail on the head. I’m not sure I agree 100% with the “let the South secede and watch it crumble instead of fighting the war” belief, but it is at least a coherent argument that made me think as opposed to a series of talking points from some guy on the radio.”
oh so you’re only what 50% in agreement with slavery? thats nice.
“Also, I’ll restate it one last time for Rush_Is_Right, who clearly didn’t get it when I posted it the first time: neither I nor Ron Paul nor any libertarian I know is anti-Israel or anti-semitic”
oh of course NOT…just like you’re not racist…all those racist rants in ron paul’s newsletters…well that was put in by the NEO-CONS (ie jews) its all part of the conspiracy to get Ron paul….the NEO-CONS teamed up with the SHRINERS and the ILLUMINATI…
“but rather a stubborn insistence on never looking at other ideas and thinking critically about them.”
bwhahahahahahahahhah ever check the mirror? I mean seriously you paulistas are just nutty.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 9:23am“In short, slavery is not only immoral, it’s bad economics. It‘s not that we’re in favor of slavery; it’s that we recognize the terrible side effect of the war, which was the erosion of states’ sovereignty and mass”
thanks for confirming what lew rockwell said…when it comes right down to it, you ‘libertarians’ only want liberty for white people who think like you do.
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 11:09amRush_Is_RIght, it‘s clear that we’re not going to get anywhere, so let’s respectfully agree to disagree. The one thing I will say is this: don’t call me a racist. I don‘t appreciate you lying about me when in reality you’ve never met me and you don’t know anything about me. If you need proof for my lack of racism, simply look at my profession: I’m a jazz musician for a living. If it wasn’t for the hundreds (probably thousands) of brilliant African-American artists that have preceded me (and whom I look up to as heroes), I wouldn’t have a job right now.
I know ultimately it’s not going to stop you from thinking the worst about me without having any knowledge of me as a person other than your own preconceived notions. Just please refrain from spreading these lies into a public place. It doesn‘t help the cause of civil dialogue that we’re trying to have.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:09pm“The one thing I will say is this: don’t call me a racist.”
I’m not calling you personally a racist…I’m giving examples of libertarian thought…you can deny they’re libertarians…but thats what these people I quoted call themselves…
I was trying to give you a chance to denounce some of this stuff…
the conservative movement has never been part of this kind of racism an anti-semitism that we see from libertarians. there was no ‘southern strategy’ nixon created affirmative action…because he thought black people had been treated unfairly.
there are a lot of ugly things in libertarianism….and Paul parroting the left and saying bachmann hates muslims is just another example….lewrockwell et. al attacked bush on iraq in the same way and using the same words michael moore did.
I am also pointing the hypocrisy of the libertarian movement…they have no problem with gay marriage, and totally ignore the negative impact that it would have upon christians’s freedom of religion and speech.
I’m sorry I did not mean to imply that you personally are a racist.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:03amBachmann does not hate Muslims. She is opposed to the Muslim extremists, you know, like the ones that murdered over 3,000 Americans that started the war….
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:10amYeah, and they were all from SAUDI ARABIA, not Iraq.
Report Post »GOA_AMD65
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:11amSo Iran is at war with us?
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:11amDoes that justify killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims in the process?
By the way how does that promote peace between the us and the middle east?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:17amPaul doesn’t believe that
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/ron-pauls-911-comments-booed-at-presidential-debate-video/2011/09/13/gIQAyq0XPK_blog.html
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:27amHey, Indonesia has the largest Muslim polution in the world. Should we attak them?
Let’s take a look at lonely Australia. Indonesia, right above Australia, has the largest Muslim population on the whole earth. And China, further above Australia, is one of the largest Communist Nations on Earth. The Indian Ocean, right next to Australia, currently has the most Muslim Pirates on Earth. North Korea and Russia (on the same hemisphere with Australia), are Communist countries and allied with nearby communist China. And we’re worried that the great USA with her awesome military might will not be able to defend herself?
We it be OK to laugh at the face of ignorance and intimidation caused by manufactured fear and propaganda?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:28am*We > Would
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:38amDon’t get me wrong, Bush and BHO have botched it when it comes to response.
Report Post »jim
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:09pmThe Quran says unbelievers will be converted or destroyed. Doesn’t leave a lot of wiggle room.
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:14pmI believe he personally knows her a bit better than you do and he’s not prone to making such statements on a whim.
Report Post »TeaParty_RonPaul_R3VOLUTION
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:03amdunno, i don’t think santorum or bachmann “hate” them. They’ve have supported legislation that would go against those two groups
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:03amHe really isn’t that far off the mark on any of his assessments.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:52pmAnd that’s why Liberals and Thrifty-Liberals love the guy… however misguided he and his fellow Liberals are.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:58amThat was a delightful show. Wish all Americans had watched. Great stuff!
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:05amI guess it is ok to call Ron Paul the Anti-semite that he is and stated in his own publication. It is now fair game. Sorry ron you are trying to cover your own bigotry.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14am@Patrick Henry II Anti-semite? LOL.
Glenn Beck said, “There’s something happening in America. That Americans are beginning to disconnect with both Parties. And they’re becoming much more like the founders. Some. And, the founders would’ve said, ‘We’re friends to everybody, and enemies to nobody. We mind our own business.‘ America doesn’t have the money or resources anymore to be the Policemen of the world. Explain to somebody, what it means to stand by Israel. We have to go over and fight wars, with you? Or, what does it mean?”
Former Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Dore Gold promptly answered Beck’s question, “That is PRECISELY the point. Israel never asked the United States to risk the lives of American troops to defend it… We don’t want American troops or any other troops defending Israel. We want to fulfill the doctrine of the founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, of self-reliance – that ISRAEL DEFENDS ITSELF BY ITSELF. And what we ask for from the United States is diplomatic support so we can maintain that position.” youtube.com/watch?v=jxxBuNWKgZQ
“My friends, you don’t need to do nation building in Israel. We’re already built. You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it. You don’t need to send American troops to defend Israel. We defend ourselves.” Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, – May 2011 before the U.S. Congress
Paul on Defense youtube.com/watch?v=ATmUE8TCmjE
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14amDr. Paul was running for political office while being a practicing doctor — very busy. Yes, someone “ghost wrote” newsletters for him during that time. Turns out that the “ghost writer” was prejudiced. This was gone over a thousand times during the last campaign.
Dr. Paul has NEVER said or done anything to indicate that he’s racially prejudiced.
Report Post »Why bring up old news that has been proven FALSE to try and discredit a great American?
colt1860
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:14amNewsmax: What should our relationship be with Israel?
Paul: We should be their friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy.
newsmax.com/InsideCover/paul-israel-support-wead/2011/12/07/id/420247
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:20amThe “Ghost writer” is Lew Rockwell… Ron Paul’s very bestest, bestest buddy. He is the man behind the Ron Paul curtain. Lew Rockwell is as close to Ron Paul as Ron Paul’s “Depends” are to Ron Paul’s derriere. You want to really know about Ron Paul? Look to Lew Rockwell then start connecting the dots…
I could go on.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:31am“e “Ghost writer” is Lew Rockwell”
he’s a serious nut-job…I’ve read his site…even had an email conversation with him…hate-filled wacko…
you read his site, lincoln was a tyrant…apparently libertarians are OK with slavery…
YepImaConservative
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:37am> RUSH. People just need to dig deeper under the trash heap of the Ron Paul Revolution and his supporters and get down to the real crap underneath (in plain view, lol)
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Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:25pmColt1860:
Glenn Beck said, “There’s something happening in America. That Americans are beginning to disconnect with both Parties. And they’re becoming much more like the founders. Some. And, the founders would’ve said, ‘We’re friends to everybody, and enemies to nobody. We mind our own business.‘
And, the founders would’ve said, ‘We’re friends to everybody, and enemies to nobody. We mind our own business.‘
Ron Paul says: ‘We should be friends to everybody, and enemies to nobody. We should mind our own business.‘
Yep, they’re right. Paul is a whack job. To THINK that he would have the same principals as the Founders. The HORROR of it all!
Either you‘re FOR the Constitution or you’re NOT. There’s NO middle of the road, pick and choose what you want to be followed. Make your choice. Constitution and Liberty or more of the same and the fall of the Republic into slavery and a one world government. You’re choice.
Pst. Colt, that was not aimed at you, just using parts of your post to explain a few things and wanted to give you credit.
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 6:36amNothing stings quite like the truth does it.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 6:59am@Bryan from Florida
There are several signs that the whole Ron Paul thing could be a creation of the Democrats. The Paulies brazenly admit that they will gladly help 0bama get reelected if they can’t have Ron Paul.
Besides that, just look at their tactics; in your face disrespect for anybody else’s views, trashing all the other candidates, flooding all the internet forums (mostly off-topic) and all the other traits of a bunch of leftist Democrats.
The whole phenomenon needs to be investigated.
Think about it – Who has the most to gain from the existence of the Paulie cult?
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 8:24amqpwillie
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 6:59am
@Bryan from Florida
There are several signs that the whole Ron Paul thing could be a creation of the Democrats. The Paulies brazenly admit that they will gladly help 0bama get reelected if they can’t have Ron Paul.
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Conversely though….
You’ve stated that you would gladly welcome another liberal into the job…..provided that their last name isn’t Obama, of course….
Who has the warped priorities here??
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 9:42am@KidCharlemagne
When a candidate and his followers claims to be the ONLY person on earth who can save the world, a giant red flag should go up. We have one of those in the white house right now. (Just another one of those similarities I was talking about.)
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:24am@willie
Report Post »“The whole phenomenon needs to be investigated.”
Yes, all the Paulist should be investigated and then put in fema camps. I bet you support Allen West and the National Defence Act too. You slipping farther to the darkside. Paul had a good interview with Jay, the only joking around was at the end, and thats what the media decides to report on. Figures. It was a Joke and so is this artical.