Ron Paul on Third Party Run: ‘I Don’t Want to Do It’
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Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said he has no intention of running as a third-party candidate. (AP)
Texas Rep. Ron Paul again dismissed speculation that he may run for president as a third-party candidate, saying Sunday he simply doesn’t want to.
“I don’t want to do it. That’s a pretty good reason,” the GOP candidate said on Fox News Sunday.
Host Chris Wallace had pressed Paul on whether he might consider an independent bid after Paul said he would be unlikely to support anyone else for the Republican nomination unless they agreed with him on certain issues.
“If they believe in expanding the wars, if they don’t believe in looking at the Federal Reserve, if they don’t believe in real cuts, if they don’t believe in deregulation and a better tax system, it would defy everything I believe in,” Paul said. “I would be reluctant to jump on board and tell all of the supporters that have given me trust and money then all of a sudden say, ‘All we have done is for naught and let’s support anybody at all because even if they disagree with everything we do.’”
“Does that mean you might consider an independent run?” Wallace asked.
“No, it doesn’t mean that at all,” Paul said. “I have no intention of doing that. It doesn’t make any sense to me to even think about that, let alone plan to do that.”
“Because?” Wallace pressed.
“Because I don’t want to do it,” Paul said laughing. “That’s a pretty good reason.”
Among the current crop of GOP candidates, Paul placed fifth with 9 percent in the newest ABC-Washington Post national poll released this week. In Iowa he placed third in the latest Des Moines Register poll last week with 12 percent.
Watch a clip of the interview below, via Mediaite.
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Comments (518)
SpinMD
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:37pmI have read several of Ron Paul’s books and I understand his positions. I am also studying Hayek, Von Mises, Hazlitt and Rothbard in addition to Keynes. Ron Paul will not have to run as a third party candidate. What the GOP establishment fails to understand is that the majority of RP’s supporters are true believers and well informed rather than the sheep the establishment rely on to maintain the status quo. If RP isn’t the nominee, I for one will write him in during the general election. Others I have spoke with who actually understand his positions feel the same way. REVOLUTION!
Report Post »paulusmaximus
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:43pmYep and 4 more years here we come!
Report Post »BecksTheMan
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:56pmI will take Ron Paul at his word that he will not run as a 3rd party candidate. I like a lot about Ron Paul but if he were to become a spoiler like Ross Perot with the very high stakes and jeopardy our country is in with Obama that would really be an unfortunate situation to say the least. I will gladly vote for Ron Paul if he is the nominee but he is going to have to do a whole lot of catching up to do for that to happen.
I believe Mitt Romney is by far the most conservative person we can elect and agrees with Ron Paul on everything except for some of his foreign policies. A showdown with Iran and defending Israel is two areas that the next POTUS is going to have to be willing to do and Mitt is solid on both. I do believe that Mitt would be wise to choose Ron Paul as his treasury secretary or even Chairman of The Fed Reserve.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:02pm@SpinMD
Report Post »Try reading “The Coming Insurrection” by The Invisible Committee, next. This is what we are facing and what the next President will face. Ron Paul‘s policies can’t handle something like this. Please get it and read it.
moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:08pmu paulitarians are more progressive than conservative… and when obama wins another 4 years, becuz u guys have wasted your vote by writing paul in, u can pat yourselves on the back when the constitution is totally gone and our country is completely destroyed….. u claim to love & live by the constitution; yet u r willing to destroy it all for the sake of principle; that’s something to be proud of! guess we’ll all know who to blame in the food line…
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:13pmWe all know that you Paulies think you’re the ONLY informed people. That’s one of the many things you have in common with 0bamabots. Another thing you have in common is that you’re both working to get 0bama reelected.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:19pmYou may be 100% correct in supporting Ron Paul. HOWEVER, voting for Paul as a third party candidate or write-in IS a vote FOR obama. Hold your nose if you must, or live with the stench of obama & Co.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:23pmThe Monk
That insurrection is here and another puppet politician will only continue it. Both Parties are involved….. John McCain is example one….
Moebetta
If we aren’t to stand on values and principles what should we stand on? Your statement makes sense.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:28pmAw what’s wrong QP “Willie”…. Have nothing better to do then just come post insults? You are such a vile sad little person….
Cain, Romney or Perry will be more of the same controlled by the same puppet masters leading to communism and it will be all QP Willie’s fault….
Report Post »moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:34pmokie,
Report Post »i guess u’ll be the one w/ the “i stood on my principles” sign around your neck in the food line…. it’ll get ya far… keep smokin your bong…
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:42pm@MoeBetta
Yes God gave me principles and values to stand on and I will stand on them. I’ll be the one feeding you when it ends as I grow my own food and actually feed the homeless now with a five acre crop. Do you? I also do not do any drugs though I do not believe I can tell you not to unless you want me telling you not to eat all that crap food you shove in your mouth.
So answer the question, if we are not to vote and stand on principle and values what should we stand on? Party line? You can’t answer because you know you are wrong!
Report Post »CptStubbing
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:55pmI am with you on this Spinmd. I personally would rather have Obama be president again than one of the other republicans. We will eventually have the same result either way, I just want the band-aid torn off quick. Obama would mean a quick economic collapse; a republican economic collapse will still come, but it will take a few years longer. A Ron Paul presidency will at least give us some kind of fighting chance to get back to individual rights and freedoms. Unfortunately, the republicrats (or democricans if you prefer) want to continue down this path of Collectivism and Socialism. Their indoctrination is so ingrained into their psyches that the only way they can have any type of conversation with one another is through verbal insults tearing down each other’s equally stupid social programs. It is sad to me that these people do not see their biased opinions toward liberty. Every new law, every new regulation, every newly imposed bureaucratic agency diminishes our freedoms until we are nothing more than self-imposed slaves.
Report Post »spfoam1
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:56pmIf the conservative vote is split then we can look forward to the communist states of America under the second Obama administration. All conservatives MUST vote for the same person …..against Obama, no matter who it is.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:57pmVoting for anybody, but Ron Paul is voting for big government. It doesn’t matter if its Cain, Romeny, Perry, Newt or Obama. They all are for BIG FEDERAL GOVT.
Report Post »Folks, woke up !!! Why we, the real conservatives always have to give in. Time is up, stay your ground and defend what you believe in, or the republic is gone.
420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:13pmJust reading some of these posts makes me understand that most people, who claim to want change and say they are Tea, are not and will be the ones who help cause the One World Economic Order!!! Paul a progressive?? Are you nuts?? He is a Constitutionalist, period. When did the majority get brainwashed into thinking that the Constitution is not the way we want to live our lives? That is what all of you are saying. Romney?? Give me a break. Cain?? Tax Plan!!! Newt?? Establishment!!! All of you are so worried that BO will stay that you toss the Constitution aside, just like BO, and hope that your little lives will stay the same. Well, if we get another candidate that is the same as we have been getting over the last couple decades, our economy is going to crash, and we will be part of the OWO!!! Then watch what happens, anarchy, death and destruction. If we would wise up and be willing to sacrifice a little bit of our lives for maybe a decade, we could leave our children and grandchildren with Liberty. But I suspect that most are too selfish to do what is right here. It saddens me.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:20pmmoebetta
If you actually “knew betta”, then you would know that we ain’t about to be standing in a food line, we grow our own food, have food stockpiled, guns, gold, and God.
YOU will be standing in a food line asking Barry to forgive YOU and give YOU a handout. We already know where the country is headed if Ron Paul loses thanks to YOU voting for NEOCONS.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:32pmWilly, post some interviews with Cain talking about the issues and maybe there can be a discussion without all the name calling. Below are a few with Cains 999 guy that are pretty good. But only about the 999 plan. Sure would like to see some of Herman.
Report Post »http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/302403-2
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/CainsTa
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:34pmHere is some of Paul
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onJ25hE2yQ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af7XNc7LOTA
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:37pmOne for Obama too
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU
YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:40pmLOVE IT, the man said he WILL NOT RUN 3rd PARTY. So can all you ‘voting season’ republicans get off Dr. Pauls back! All you do is attack the man on baseless claims. People got so worked up when they thought he might even though he never said he would run 3rd party. Just like when the Cain drama hit the news a LOT of folks on here were all to happy and quick to blame Dr. Paul. Funny how Cain pointed the finger at Perry and Perry to Mitt. You guys hate Dr. Paul because you cant call him out on the typical political BS like you can with every other candidate.
All you do is attack attack attack without reason. I dont mind being called an idiot or a moron, etc. but seriously the Paulbot and Ronulan slurs need to stop. Its just as nasty as those dems/libs calling us TEA-BAGGERS.
Us ‘paulbots’ dont think we are superior, we just love this country and the Constitution. A lot of us are educated about our country’s history DESPITE the school systems attempt to whitewash and water down our past. A lot of us Paul supporters are the young generation, and like it or not its us or the brainwashed liberal masses (aka my peers). Not many young folks by into the Republican way because sadly the progressive agenda is so much ‘cooler’. But what do they know, they are products of one of the worst education systems in the (first) world…
And Id write in Beck’s name before voting Mitt, Cain, or Perry. This corrupt cycle needs to stop.
Report Post »If obama wins then at least this country w
Doc
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:07pmI like Paul’s economics but his Foreign Affairs opinions are pretty scary. I think he would have us fight the next war on our own shores.
Report Post »Feel free to vote any way you like. Just remember, a vote for Paul will be a vote for Obama…
420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:08pmGood job Commonsense.
Report Post »I think everyone should look at these.
420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:21pm@Doc
Ron Pauls foriegn policy ideas are Constitutional. If you think that our best interest is served by being the police of the world, you are a NEOCON. That is more of the same that we have had for many decades. It is not working, if it was, why are we so hated in many of the countries that we are in? The Constituional beliefs promote trade and friendship with other countries and defend against foriegn attack. It does not mean pre-emption. War should be last resort and approved through Congres, not through NATO or the U.N. A lot of people still need to wake up.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:34pm@ moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:08pm
u paulitarians are more progressive than conservative…
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Um, that’s just a dumb comment. Paul is a Constitutionalist, and progressives are anti-American Constitution.
I don’t have Paul at the top of my list of potentials, but he’s as far from progressivism as Betelgeuse is from the Earth. Now had you said Huntsman or Romney were progressives, yeah, that would be right. The fact is that there are no conservatives running as Republicans for the presidency.
Report Post »Founding Father2
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:45pmHe is a flip flopper and people see this. You can’t play both sides which he constantly does.
RON PAUL IS ANYTHING BUT CONSISTENT.
Then again they are all Politicians, even Cain. This is why the argument that Romney’s a flip-flopper is complete null and void, and no one is worse than Barack Obama.
I would be interested in seeing if anyone take Rush Limbaughs $50,000 offer for info on Politico scandals, take a look: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/limbaugh_politico_scandals.html
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:54pmI can’t see anyone so dedicated to the constitution running as a 3rd party candidate and enabling the re-election of the biggest enemy to it that we’ve seen in our lifetime. I never thought he’d do that.
I think that he might be leading in the polls if it wasn’t for his foreign policy stance. People are with him on a lot of issues and he had a big part in sharpening the public’s focus on these issues. The foreign policy issues are the deal breakers. Just my opinion.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:59pmthe reason is because most states only allow republicans and democrats on the ballots… that is how messed up America has become… an Independent isn’t even allowed to run in some states… how is that fair representation?
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:00pmactually, to all of you. this is the truth.
Report Post »Not voting for Ron Paul and voting for ANYONE else, IS a vote for the NWO.
Jomari
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:23pmIf Ron Paul supportors mount a write in vote and take away as little as 3% from the Republican nominee, Obama gets 4 more years. Do you really want that??????
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:34pm@Founding Father
No, he’s not a flip flopper in that sense. A political flip-flopper is one who promises you/says one thing then does another. On policy matters Paul is consistent, even if it goes against ‘the party’. Hence the reason they call him ‘Dr. No.’… Ever wonder why during the debates the candidates call each other out for a checkered passed of flip-flopping in politics EXCEPT for Dr. Paul (and of course the Hermster who is the political ‘outsider’).
You can claim he ‘plays both sides’ if you want, that he is a libertarian and a republican. But the FACT that he will not run 3rd party shows he isn’t playing both sides or flipping on anything…
You all got your wish and he wont split the ticket if he loses, however the people who write him in do it on their principles and you have no right to tell them to do otherwise. Ill be out this week getting signatures for Dr. Paul at the polls so he can be on my states ballot, if you support your candidate Id expect you to do the same. I wont belittle you for it, after all we are on the same team, I just ask that during the primaries we give all candidates a good look and weed out the ‘role-players’ and frauds.
Now I’ll ask YOU this, will you support and vote for Dr. Paul if he wins the Republican nominee? Ive heard many ‘vote for anyone but Bama’ say they wont which is hypocrisy when reading most of you peoples posts.
More people are waking up to Dr. Paul and its clear on sites like this…
Report Post »Jomari
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:35pmIf Ron Paul Supporters mount a write in campaign vote and draw just 3% away from the GOP nominee, OBAMA GETS ELECTED FOR 4 MORE YEARS. Is that what you want???? I would have more respect for Mr. Paul if he asked his supporters to vote for the nominee to prevent Obama’s re-election. Ron Paul needs to consider how he could influence another GOP nominee rather then the path he is choosing. We have all had elections where our candidate was not the preferred nominee. However, we go to the polls and vote the greater good. Four more years of Obama is NOT the greater good!
Report Post »getalong
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:54pmRevolution. Oh Yeah. You will see a revolution alright if Ron Paul becomes the next President, and security will be so weak in our country that we will turn into Israel in 90′s when there were bombings at weddings, shopping centers, etc. Heck, Paul doesn’t even want to secure the border to Mexico. Those terrorist can just walk those dirty-bombs right into our country. . I just saw another interview with Ron Paul, once again, he shows how absolutely clueless he is. Every time he says he wants to be “friends” with Iran, I can’t help but shutter. You can’t be friends with a radical American hating country that has threatened to blow us up and our ally Israel. He keeps ranting about the bureacruacy but HE IS THE bureacruacy. He has been part of Washington, D.C. for a long time. If Washington, DC is so utterly corrupt (which we know it is), than why has he stayed so long? He may know a few things about the Constitution but he is so way off when it comes to the security of our country. He probably sings “WE ARE THE WORLD….) in the shower every morning. He is too old and too politically weaved into the culture of Washington. Cain doesn‘t play Washington’s game, and that is why he is gaining in the polls. When I hear Cain speak, I hear a thoughtful man who, unlike Paul, doesn’t act like he just smoked a joint at a peace sit-in. This ain’t 1960!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a whole new big bad world out there!
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:58pmWow, wonder if the BLAZErs will write about this little gem: Cain was AGAINST a national sales tax before he was for it…. Hmmmmmmmm Flip flopping and he hasn’t even served. Check it out the story is out there on other news sites…
Any comments from you Cain supporters on this, Im dying to hear what you think. Forget the ‘scandal’ this is the real dirt.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:10pm@GET ALONG
Boo! The big bad boogeyman is out to get you. Im glad you want to see more troop’s blood on our hands. We dont fight wars to win anymore and thats the problem. You are clueless on Dr. Paul’s foreign policy and are a NEOcon if you want to keep the war machine rolling. We are NOT the world police.
Dont you think Iran could BUY a nuke from oh I dont know, N. Korea or China if it wanted.
Why do more active military donate to Dr. Paul then EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE COMBINED. You all love to attack his foreign policy but neglect to see that OUR troops support him. They fight these wars and see first hand the problems with a decade long entrenchment with no plans for victory.
Again, read Glenn‘s book ’Broke‘ to see how past CIC’s screwed our military. Paul is all about ‘talk softly but carry a big stick.’ Open border, what a joke, he never said that. He said if there were no bene‘s or job here for illegals then they wouldn’t come and this is true as proven by pundits over and over again.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:21pm@ getalong, There are a few good interviews above 2 of Cains 999 plan and 2 of Dr. Paul. You should watch them and if you find with Cain in them it would be great if you posted them. I think Cain may be lined up for an interview by the same panal that Paul was on. So keep an eye out.
Report Post »RiseUp_Or_ShutUp
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:16pm“What the GOP establishment fails to understand is that the majority of RP’s supporters are true believers and well informed rather than the sheep the establishment rely on to maintain the status quo.”
Report Post »Well put, for those who awake will not vote for the Party. I trust him more than other candidate.
macpappy
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:37pmOthers feel the same way? All both of them? If you are bright enough to understand Dr. Paul’s platform, then you should vote for whoever he votes for if he is not the candidate. Believe me, it will be harder for moderate to right conservatives to vote for Paul than it should be for you to vote for any other candidate.
Report Post »rokkrawler66
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:52pmi agree if we divide and do write ins then obama will win again. did we not learn from perot. i agree with some of pauls stuff but his foreign policy is bad. however all the canidates have issues. the only way to beat this president is vote as one and overcome our socialism future.
Report Post »Bri 3D
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:08pm@Paul – Maximus
Report Post »4 more years of a statists prez would be the fault of people like you, not the ron paul write ins
sweetconcern
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:12pmWe Need this kind of president.
Statement of Faith
“I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.”
-Ron Paul
My faith is a deeply private issue to me, and I don’t speak on it in great detail during my speeches because I want to avoid any appearance of exploiting it for political gain. Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.
It is God Who gave us life. As He is free, so are those He created in His image. Our rights to life and liberty are inalienable.
I’m running for President of the United States because I believe that our traditions and way of life are under attack from an out-of-control federal government and reckless politicians who show no regard for what our Founders entrusted to our protection.
America became the greatest nation in human history because a dedicated band of Patriots believed their God-given rights were worth fighting for, even if it meant challenging the world’s most powerful nation in what many deemed a “hopeless” cause.
Being free meant so much to our forefathers that they put everything on the line – and thousands sacrificed their lives – to give the promise of liberty to not only their children and grandchildren, but to generations they knew they would never even meet. You can read the rest at ro
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:14pm@JOMARI
So you believe a man should forego his principles and lie to those that trust them the most for the sake of more of the same. And here I was thinking you guys were SICK AND TIRED of career politicians yet you criticize Dr Paul for not playing the career politician move? You all sicken me. I will write his name in now too. If that means four more years of Obama then so be it. I refuse to forego my principles for your perceived greater good or the lesser of the two evils. I’d rather we all suffer until you finally wise up and vote for someone that has equal commitment to us and to our constitution as Ron Paul does.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:47pmSpinMD: I will never vote D but I had never considered writing in Dr. Paul. That is probably the most principled thing to do. I certainly will not be voting for any of the pro Fed, Big gov’t, Neo-Cons in the race.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 11:02pmBy all means Ron Paul should not make a third party run. He can’t win and would ensure that Obama would be in power for 4 more years. Hopefully, Ron Paul will not let his ego get in the way.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 12:21amOkie,
Report Post »You should consider a Psych evaluation at the earliest opportunity. You have lost your ability to think logically and I would hate to see any Blaze reader have that happen to them. We already have one BROKER0101 so we sure don’t need anymore.
I would like to ask you a very serious question but I‘m afraid you won’t answer it truthfully. I’m gonna give it a shot anyway… Even during Ron Pauls last run for POTUS some his supporters got pretty aggressive. This time however it seems to be a majority of his supporters have gone Postal with their attitude of “Ron Paul is God” and nobody else will do. Can you explain this rather strange behavior?
thepatriotdave
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 12:31amspfoam1
Report Post »Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:56pm
If the conservative vote is split then we can look forward to the communist states of America under the second Obama administration. All conservatives MUST vote for the same person …..against Obama, no matter who it is.
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People may not like it but we must do exactly what is written above. Heck, I’m not real happy with the way things are turning out, but getting rid of Obama must be are number one priority. Any of the other candidates would be much much better than Obama, but we should also use logic, not personal preferences to make sure that we get behind the candidate that has the very best chance of beating Obama.
For reasons I have spelled out many times over the last months or so, our best bet would be to get behind Herman Cain. Herman Cain is THE ONLY CANDIDATE that will be able to steal away over 30% of the minority vote from Obama. That alone means he can win by a landslide. Keep in mind if we pick a candidate that only beats Obama by a slim margin, Obama will win. That doesn’t sound logical until you plug-in the fact that the amount of cheating done FOR Obama will be enormous. This is why our candidate must be able to take a large bite out of Obama’s Pie. None of the other candidates can accomplish this. NONE OF THEM!
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:15am@Dave
I gave up being “normal” a long time ago, Dave. If you think you are hurting my feelings you are not and if you could only see me eyes to see there is not one ounce of concern in them over what you think about anything.
Give an example of this “aggression” Dave….Aggression like yell out at their Rep or Senator at a town hall aggression? Or aggression in going door to door to get the word out on someone with a Constitutional stance?
See it’s illogical people like you who think Ron Paul is what we supporters of him like. It isn’t “Ron” it’s his message of following the Constitution and Liberty. His record matches his rhetoric so we trust him. No one thinks of Ron Paul as a god at all that is hilarious. Ron Paul supporters are typically well versed in the Constituion and can shoot holes in all the progressive candidates views. No one running can match Ron Paul’s message…..
Glenn tells us
McCain was Progressive
Bush II was progressive
Bush I was Progressive
Why will this election year be any different Dave? Would it be logical to think another progressive will win the Progressive Republican nomination? You couldn’t hold water in a bucket son, now go play.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:27am@thepatriotdave Didn’t we do that with McCain? Do you see how that turned out? Voting for the lesser of two evils or the Establishment and Media pick only ensure a precedent that the people truly don’t care to think for themselves and will believe anything their “superiors” tell them. Cain will take away any significant amount of the minority vote from Obama. You have no facts or actual reasoning for that. That is just a false assumption. Democrats will not vote abandon a black liberal for a black conservative.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:28am@thepatiotdave
“Cain… attends a church whose majority African-American congregation has traditionally supported Democratic politicians.”
““Mr. Cain is a friend of mine and a fellow church member,” said Beasley, the Southern director of Rainbow/PUSH, a social and civil rights organization created by the Rev. Jesse Jackson”
“The church, said Beasley, has a history of welcoming political candidates, Republican and Democrat…. But it’s opened doors to far more Democrats. Andrew Young, former Atlanta mayor and U.S. ambassador to the United Nations; U.S. Rep. John Lewis, famed for his civil rights activities; Jackson, who twice ran for president; and former Mayor Shirley Franklin, to name a few, have been guests at the church. Former Gov. Roy Barnes, a Democrat, has been to Antioch several times. A visit to Antioch, said Barnes, “is like a homecoming.” Church members, he said, do lean toward Democratic candidates.”
“The hardest to sway may be the pastor himself. Alexander for years has been active in civil rights and other issues traditionally associated with the Democratic Party. He’s mentioned Malcolm X and Rosa Parks as influences in his life.”
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/churchs-pride-in-cain-1208642.html
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:38am@Dave
Your comment in response to SP Foam shows you are a simple useful idiot for the progressive right.
How many times did Glenn say McCain would have been worse then Obama?..Numerous……Yet you are telling us anyone is better then Obama this year……That’s untrue even as horrific as Obama is! That should tell you something mr “patriot”….
Now you want everyone to vote for Cain simply because he is black?! Hahahahaha and you think I need a psych evaluation….to vote for a person’s skin color is STUPID and it makes YOU STUPID.
The “Patriot” Dave just showed us all the racist he is as he thinks black people will only vote for a black person. That black people are not smart enough to vote for the best message and policy but just by the first thing they see, skin color. You are no patriot. You are a stupid useful idiot! What a joke!
Report Post »Jeff65
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 2:14am@Okie You got that pegged right. The only poll that I was able to find the detailed breakdown of the results (one of the rasmussen polls) showed Ron Paul way in first for minority groups and under 50 group even though on total he came in a weak third.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 2:20am*Cain will not take away any significant amount of the minority vote from Obama. And there are no facts or studies to prove that he will.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 3:09amthe bilderbergers & the CIA would plant him next to JFK
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 4:50am“What the GOP establishment fails to understand is that the majority of RP’s supporters are true believers and well informed rather than the sheep the establishment rely on to maintain the status quo”…
Exactly! FOX News is just as bad as the rest of the MSM… These FOX News pundits are paid to encourage candidates that will only continue the status quo rather than a true conservative who offers real hope for the American people.
It’s quite ironic as the more FOX News did to marginalize Ron Paul, the more Americans listened to his message. Try as they might, Ron Paul continues to poll well across the country as his message spreads; and now these very pundits are being forced to acknowledge Paul at least to some extent.
Thanks to gaining knowledge on the Internet, not to mention experiencing our deteriorating quality of life, more and more Americans are realizing that both political parties have been working against our best interests for decades.
Americans are getting tired of Progressives (the Democrats) and Progressive Lights (the Republicans) who only serve themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
It is far past time that our so-called political “representatives” stop representing global corporations, global unions and special interest groups and start representing the best interests of the American people.
Ron Paul is the only candidate who offers us just that…
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 4:53am@REPUBLICORP Cain is right. Once you’re on the Cain train, you don’t get off. Unfortunately for Cain and his followers, the train is heading off a cliff. I tried warning you guys. The only real chance we have at saving this Nation from a coming world wide economic collapse is a strict adherence to the federal Constitution and faith in God! Offer me ANY candidate that will unabashedly support that and act upon it, and he has my vote! ANY! Cain’s 999 plan has no chance of survival against the international bankers, global elitists and their Marxist agenda. They hate our Constitution, not our taxes! We must save our Independence as a sovereign Nation from those who desire to rule us with an iron fist. Being slaves to private and foreign banks is not what our founding fathers had in mind. Its about the ECONOMY! We’re broke, and in debt to corporate banks and foreign nations. Show me a real Plan that tackles these issues, and that candidate has my support.
Report Post »projlunarmem
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:42amMy wife and I had decided long before the primary campaign started that we would not vote for the lesser of the two evils (mcain vs obama) again. What is wrong with our country and politics is that people compromise on their beliefs to go with the parties and medias pick.
Now I do support ron paul first and the only other republican nominee I will vote for is Cain (so far he hasn’t lost my vote). Until Americans stand on their principles and vote for who is the right candidate and not who the republican committee and media picked we will get obama lites over and over again.
If obama gets re-elected a quarter of america shows the republican and democrat committee we are getting fed up with your way of politics, that may be the only way to sae our country. To stand up and vote for what is right and not what is popular. IT IS CRAP to say I‘m voting for obama when I’m voting for the right candidate vs the popular candidate. If abortion was popular I would still vote against abortion and on and on etc.
Just my two cents. Respect all of your opinions and I’m glad you all are paying attention and passionate.
Report Post »mils
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:43amifthe main stream does not want Ron Paul…then he’ll be like Perot…he thinks he‘s so well liked and he’s not.
He will split the vote , obama will win. So if people like you want obama to win…please vote for a third party.
a third party will not carry a majority and it will create chaos.
If you do not realize this..you should go back and read what happened with Perot. you and people like you will cause Obama to win 4 more years. ‘NOW IS NOT THE TIE FOR A THIRD PARTY”….IF PAUL ISN’T SMART EN OUGHT TO REALIZE THIS THEN i feel sorry for voters he will lead astray..and the outcome..THE DAY AFTER OBAMA WALKS AWAY AS PRESIDENT FOR TH E SECOND TIME..THEY CAN GO HIDE IN THE HOLD THEY HAVE DUG FOR OUR NATION.
Democrats will win because they stick together through right and wrong. Republicans..are so darned petty they don’t have a unity to hold the party together to get a man like Obama out of office..they are petty
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:02amWhile it may not sit well with many on this site and I understand the anger but the reality is that Obama would probably be better for the longer term outlook of the Nation. As it stands now everyone is focused on the flaws in our Gov’t and they should be. People are demanding a return to Constitutional principles as they should; however, I fear that if a Neo-Con gets elected many of our Tea-Party Patriots may be deceived into thinking its ok to overlook these same Constitutional principles as long as our guy is in the White House.
Right now Ron Paul is the only one advocating aggressively Constitutional Principles. Newt has joined in but it‘s really hard to trust Newt although I’m inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Report Post »knowbody
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:25amI am through holding my nose and voting. I am through watching my country destroyed by gutless Republicans rolling over and picking losers. I am through watching RINOs on parade. I am voting for Ron Paul. If you cowards voted for the the person who represents what you claim to believe in Ron Paul would win in a landslide. Ross Perot was a joke of a candidate, so was his opponent. If you were smart enough to know this you would stop making that argument. You have a real chance, a genuine chance to stand for what you claim to believe. So hitch up your pants, march into the mouth of hell and pull the Ron Paul lever. However, I imagine most of you a$$clowns will stay on the couch, complaining during commercial breaks on Dancing with the Stars.
Report Post »sodacrackers2
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 11:32amYeah, I voted for Ross Perot in disgust and look what that got us. A write in for Ron Paul will assure a victory for Obama. There are plenty of thugs and communists at his disposal. Don’t make it a cult of personality. That’s how we got where we are today.
Report Post »bruce_baker
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 12:53pmI, too, will write in Ron Paul if he doesn’t get the nominiation. If McCain had won, there would be no TEA party, and millions of Americans would not have woken up to the fact that our Federal government has “slipped the leash” of the Constitution, and is an out of control beast run wild.
Millions more still don’t know that. Perhaps it will take the socialist ruin of the country to wake them up to the fact that socialism is the cause, not the solution, of most of our problems. The OWS movement is actively on the other side, for example. Chalk that up to the work of the National Education Association over the past 30 years, through the Public Education Monopoly. They crank out “good little Marxists” like sausages, using tax dollars. Since our public schools have failed in their task of educating Americans to the principles of good government (the Constitution), perhaps it will take the much more expensive “school of hard knocks” program to wake up Americans to the truth.
“A well instructed people can alone be permanently a free people.” – James Madison
“I know of no safe depositor of the ultimate power of society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion with education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.” – Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »vjahner
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:22pmI myself could not vote in the less of two evils . As Ron paul said it would go against everything i believe in . We Americans can no longer settle for the less of two evils . So i would also write in Ron Paul .
Report Post »TheSerpentsSeed
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:51pmEveryone of the Brainwashed GOP’ers have got to realize that you are NOT throwing your vote away, if you vote for the guy you want. What is this “holding your nose” stuff? Where has that gotten us? If you think Romney, Cain, or Gingrich are any different than Obama; we will see how better it is when or if they win.
Ron is the ONLY candidate that will change things. Now, that doesn’t mean that if he wins, then things will change(the damage has beed done and beyond the point of repair) but if things get truly better, it will be if Paul wins.
Also, for you fair whether conservatives, who say “I like his monetary policy, but not his policy over seas.” Ask yourselves the same thing… What has our policy in the middle east, South America, drug policy on the boarder… How has all of that worked out so far? Now, if we truly cared about defense, and had all of our troops on our soil, how could we be any more safe? The GOP and Dems work for the same masters. Look to the guy that they DONT want to win. Paul is a threat, hence why he will never win either of the fake parties, if at all. He is NOT establishment.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 2:09pmRon Paul cannot win the Presidential election.
Report Post »The Conservatives are closer to his views than the general electorate, and he can’t get enough support from them to get the nomination. In an election that include Liberals, he could not be elected.
Where he and I part is not over constitutional issues; it is over his extra constitutional positions. If there is to be a war, I want it to be “over there,” not here. His positions on the military are not dictated by the Constitution, they are his beliefs. I could live with a Ron Paul Presidency, but I would no longer be a Republican if they nominate another Dole or McCain. Huntsman, Romney, and Perry, are politicians. They are not Conservatives, and not Reagan Republicans. They are like Dole and McCain. I could not support them or vote for them.
Given a choice, I would elect a Reagan, but we are given no choice. Reagan was not the Republican candidate, he defeated all the Republican candidates for the nomination. The field we are being offered is comprised of the ones the people with a monetary interest in this style government want. They support it with their money. Unless someone defeats them, we are going to be offered an establishment Republican.
Paul and Bachman are closest to right; Huntsman and Romney are farthest from what we need.
Moved up from pg 5
bpitas
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 2:41pm@moebetta
Report Post »So if you don’t want to be in the food line because Obama won, then I highly suggest you vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. I personally am not voting for the GOP’s next McCain just because the GOP was too dumb to put forward a good candidate like Ron Paul as the nominee, so if you don’t vote for Ron Paul in the primary than you can thank yourself for 4 more years of Obama. We tried holding our noses with a crappy candidate in 2008 – now it’s your turn.
@beckstheman
You must be the only person in the whole US who thinks of Romney as a conservative candidate. The only reason he’s even calling himself republican is because he was a governor in Massachusetts. Anywhere else, he would be a solid democrat. I’m from Mass – he is no republican and CERTAINLY no conservative.
flntlok1949
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 4:15pmI supported Paul in 08, and it was a write in, I will do so again if I must. Under a second Obama term America, as we know it, will die! Under any of the, supposedly, more popular poll leaders, the death will just be slower! To save America we must get rid of the welfare State mentality and go back to what worked in the past – little, if any, of that message is being offered by the other candidates.
Report Post »realindependent
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 4:38pmYes, Yes my pretty little Conservatives. fight with each other. i like it alot. Ron Paul For POTUS I love it….. he can beat that fake conservative Romney and that Koch brothers puppet Cain. Romney is not a conservative, not a true one like Cain. CAIN for POTUS. Ron Paul is a fake conservative he is for abortions and against your love of war. Romney is the true candidate for you. He is pro health car mandate and for gay marriage. Wait no Beck should run for POTUS… Thats it BECK for President. hell i’ll vote for him in the primary. Operation Ciaos woohoo im registering right now for the primary..
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 5:27pmI wondered why Newt was siding up to Mr. Cain and the Koch brothers money. NOW I know — they were going to tear Mr. Cain down and push Newt on us! Bet you that’s exactly what the media does.
Herman Cain Supporters, What are the 5 stages of the loss process?
Report Post »Stage 1: Denial <———–
Stage 2: Bargaining
Stage 3: Anger
Stage 4: Despair
Stage 5: Acceptance
Voice_ofFreedom
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:20amStanding on your principles is one thing. But this blindness that only Ron Paul can fix it is idiotic. He is not the only one who believes in conservatism, and he gets it wrong a lot when it comes to foreign policy. This man is naive and he will lead our country to destruction. When it comes right down to it supporting Obama will lead us to bankruptcy followed by weakness where we end up being conquered by China. Under Ron Paul things are only slightly better as we will seem to be better for a little while until someone slips into our country with a nuke. This man does not understand how easily that can happen and America will be reduced to a weak nation covered in craters. Enjoy the nuclear fallout RP supporters.
Report Post »GilbertAcct
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:24amI’ve been torn for a while on whether I would hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils again next year. I’ve come to the conclusion that it is not a bad thing to write someone in if the GOP gives us another phony. I think this might be the case with up to 3-5% of conservatives anyway, enough to cost the GOP the election. I hate Obama as much as the next guy, but it will show the establishment that they can’t win unless they give us a decent candidate who will uphold the constitution for a change. Then maybe next time all of the “conservatives must stick together, no matter how bad the candidate” people will support a constitutionalist in the primary instead of the guy with the nicest hair. In this regard, perhaps a vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for Obama, or a vote for Rick Perry is a vote for Obama… The blame can equally be placed on those votes.
Change needs to take place, and it won’t happen if we keep voting these establishment republicans into office. I would hope that American patriots would not be opposed to voting on principle… I think it is a valiant thing to do.
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then.” – Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »GilbertAcct
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:37amVoice of Freedom… That is a very extreme view of Ron Paul’s foreign policy. He believes in a strong defense, just not in the militarism that spawns hate for the US. I would encourage you to read some books on JFK and the Cuban Missile Crisis… It shows how one man fighting against the establishment helped save the the world from a nuclear disaster. This was done through communication and peace talks, not invasion and sanctions. Your horror story of a nuclear weapon being slipped into America is possibly easier to do now than it would be under Ron Paul… He believes in securing the border and bringing the troops home to protect the US from foreign attacks, instead of protecting Germany, South Korea, Japan, and dozens of other countries from attacks. There is plenty of academic research showing that our occupation in foreign countries is the main cause of suicide attacks. Google “Robert Pape”… he conducted the most in-depth study of suicide terrorism ever done and found that 95% of suicide terrorism is in response to occupation. He has no affiliation with Ron Paul and his study was funded in part by the DoD. Michael Scheuer is also a good source… He likes RP, but doesn’t agree with all his foreign policy. He is former CIA and headed the bin Laden unit for several years. I just think some of these comments about Ron Paul are just as extreme and absurd as you claim his foreign policy ideas are…
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:35pmI‘m glad he is smart enough to know he doesn’t need to run a 3rd party ticket!
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:44pmThat would be devastating for this country by giving Obama a big chance at re-election, and we do not need that.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:21pmNo, neocons do need another 4 years of Obama. It might be enough for them to support a real conservative next time around instead of licking their party’s establishment neocon boots.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:33pmWow, believe in fate? This message from Ron Paul to Christians
Report Post »just appeared on You Tube. Please check it out. It’s truth.
The Bible and the Constitution agree!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrbX2SVuvU
420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:14pm@Vechorick
Thank you, another link everyone should go to. You seem to me to be a true Patriot.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:04pmTHanks, 420 Patirot, Hope everyone at least takes the time to watch. It touched me.
Report Post »The Bible and the Constitution agree!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrbX2SVuvU
cous1933
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:47pmGreat link Vechorik. Thank you.
Report Post »Jeff65
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 2:21amExcellent summary Vechorik.
I wouldn’t want to judge any of the others on their Christianity, but Ron Paul is definetely the only one that comes across as 100% sincere.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 3:12amHere’s another recent video, Ron Paul at Iowa Ronald Reagan Dinner
http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/paul_reagan_dinner.html
He actually talks about lower taxes, no new taxes, the federal Constitution, the free market, cutting spending, downsizing the federal Government, etc.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 3:12amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDBbh4lNxaY Kooks
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 4:40am@REPUBLICORP I don’t think you understand the election process. Citizens can vote for whomever they want. Would you rather these “kooks” vote for Obama? Do you understand that these are people who will actually vote for a GOP candidate over Obama? Do you know that in order to win an election a candidate must have the most votes? Do you understand that come this 2012 election the GOP nominee must steal votes away from Obama? Do you understand that means convincing liberals, disgruntled democrats, kooks, or what else to vote for the GOP nominee? Did you know that they sure as hell will not vote for Romney, Perry or the likes of Santorum? Heck, did you know that these “kooks”, “crazies” and “idiots” will be voting come 2012? Would you rather their vote go to Obama over a GOP candidate? So, kooks support Paul, who cares? They will be supporting limited Government, huge spending cuts, sound fiscal policy, troops at our borders, end of welfare, cutting benefits to illegals, appointing conservative judges, getting rid of unnecessary federal departments, dismantling the ATF and TSA, stopping wasteful spending, stop the printing of unlimited money, stopping the bailouts of banks and other companies, signing pro life bills, getting us out of the UN, IMF, supporting our gun rights, closing the Department of Education, respecting private property and private rights, ending all subsidies and dependence on Government, etc. ANY KOOK THAT SUPPORTS ALL THESE HAS A PLUS IN MY BOOK!
Report Post »Jeff65
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 6:15am@colt1860 I think that attitude towards the “kooks” is why I would be concerned if anyone but Ron Paul won the primaries. Ron Paul and his supporters seem to be the only one that accepts people for who they are if even if they don’t like them. It’s funny that the supporters of the RINOs insult Ron Paul for having all sorts of strange supporters. Hey . . . strange is good — if they don’t want Ron to be like them and accept his policies as he states.
I was excited to see that video that RepubliCorp seemed to think was negative (if I understood his use of kook correctly).
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:34pmron paul keeps winning straw polls but maintains 9% in national polls. 999 sounds like support for CAIN CAIN / PAUL 2012
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:57pmKoch money is behind Cain and Newt is siding up on that side. It would be more likely more spending, more war and business as usual if those two team up.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:32pmI have posted this on other stories, but believe I need to again.
Going back to Individual Liberty would have it’s growing pains, but stop and think of what is at stake here. Our children, and our grandchildren. They will be the ones who will sacrifice the most, depending on our decision at this time in the grand scheme of things. We have waited too long to change what is to come. We need to figure out which way we want to face it. One way is to elect the same old thing we always get because we listen to their lies. If candidates have to move their position to the center, left or right, or change their story or belief of something, they are lying, period. We can let the economy crash and become part of a One World Economic Order (as Soros would say) or, we can put a person in that believes in the Constitution and lives his life around it, put the brakes on hard at what has taken a century to develop, and put the correction in place that has been hampered by Progressive policies for all that time. We will still see a time of hardship, which I believe will be much shorter than the first scenario, but we owe this to our children’s future which we have put in peril because of our selfish ways. We want our lives to stay the same and are scared of real change. We can do better, we can do better and ensure that our children and grandchildren have a future of Liberty, which is about to be lost lost forever. This is not Republican vs. Democrat, it is economic failure vs. Liberty
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:40pm@VECHORIK Ron Paul did say that he would help Israel if they asked for it…Thank you for posting that..It makes me feel much better..Ron Paul is the only one I am supporting…but please understand…The Jews worship the same God as Christians..Romans 11:25-38 I would not have you be ignorant of this mystery.because you would be wise in your own conceits, that blindness has happened “in part” (meaning they worship the same God as us Christians) to Israel, until the fullnes of the Gentiles have come in. (26) and so “all of Israel shall be saved” (27) this is my covenant with them when I shall take away their sins.(30) for you in times past have not believed God, yet have obtained mercy through their unbelief.(31) Even so. have these also not believed, that through your mercy..that they may obtain mercy.(32) For God has included them in unbelief,that He might have mercy upon them Zech 12,13 14 tells us how it’s going down. It says all nations will go against her, Jesus will save them..but only one third, the rmnant will survive.. It is already written. Right now..we are in survivor mode.. we need the God,we need the Constitution, and we need a man like Ron Paul..Pray for us and pray for Israel
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:33pmOnly goes to show how doomed our Nation is regardless of elections. The puppet masters have to much control on both sides. If you think Cain, Romney, or Perry are not controlled by these puppet masters then you are blind. The left isn’t the only ones hijacked.
I still hope Ron Paul runs 3rd party if he does not win the nomination. He may not want to but sometimes men of honor and integrity do things they do not want to do for the country that needs them to. Just ask George Washington. .
Report Post »buzdburd
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:01pmWhat you are saying is you want to split the Republican vote to ensure an Obama second term which would DESTROY the US as we know it.
Report Post »You’re an idiot!!
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:06pmI swear to God that I‘m writing in Ron Paul’s name regardless of the nomination.
Neocons can get exactly what they deserve, 4 more years of lies, warmongering, constitution-trampling, crotch-groping, Bill of Rights ignoring/attacking, economy trashing, excessive spending, taxation without representation, redistribution, phony wars against the American people (drugs, terror, etc.).
That‘s exactly what they deserve if they don’t support Ron Paul. Oh well.
Report Post »louise
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:13pmOkie, If RP runs on a third party, I will vote third party. No one else, in my opinion, has the knowledge, experience and wisdom as he does. We know a lot of people who will do the same!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:15pmI could not care less about the Republican Party or Democratic Party. You think either Party is going to save you? Only an idiot would!
If you do the math, Ron Paul could win in the 3rd party but your to worried about your damn party then your principles and values to realize voting party lines is what destroyed our Nation. People like you is what destroyed our nation. Party line people in both camps are what is called useful idiots because they have no values or principles and simply vote by R or D leading to the mess today! Who’s the idiot again? YOU!
The American people deserve every bit of social destruction that happens because of idiots like you. No honor, no integrity, no intelligence. Just simple useful idiots marching off a cliff to communism for “their” party!
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:23pmSplit the conservative vote and live with obama & Co. for the next four years, or as long as America lasts.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:35pmLouise
Writing is on the wall and our destination is already made. You have two groups, left and right, and both are marching for the same destination. Each side blames the other and hates the other when in reality they are the same in overall principles.
Progressives could have never succeeded with only one Party, they needed both. Just as when a person herds cattle and use two groups to get all the cattle to the same spot, progressives are and have been doing the same thing. It’s a race to the end. Stay safe and in His good grace my friend.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:15pmI don’t toe a party line. Dead fish go with the flow.
I vote on principle.
Ron Paul 2012.
Restore America to principles.
Report Post »louise
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:19pmThanks Okie…God bless you and yours also.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:24pmThere isn’t a conservative vote to split. The split is already made.
Either you support NEOCONS, or you support CONSERVATIVES like Ron Paul.
Neocons ARE liberals, and guess what? They’ll get a liberal president for another 4 years if they vote neocon, whether republican or democrat!
The left-right paradigm is FALSE!!!!
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:34pm@Okie
I think people forget that the Republicans and the Democrats were one party in the beginning running against the Federalist Party, The Federalist Party went away and the RepublicanDemocrat Party split because of divides between them. They are pretty much going on the same path but on different roads.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:57pmOkie;
“If you think Cain, Romney, or Perry are not controlled by these puppet masters then you are blind.” What masters? Each of these three are standing for what they believe in. Each has his own unique qualities and base their decisions on calculations and/or knowledge and experience. I don’t know of any puppet masters controllinbg them. And if there were such masters, then why wouldn’t they control Ron Paul as well?
“I still hope Ron Paul runs 3rd party if he does not win the nomination.” I do too. The sooner he leaves the GOP the better for the party. i do, however, disagree with those who say if Ron Paul goes thrid party, that will split the GOP so severly as to hel psecure an Obama victory. nonesense. Ron Pauls support isn’t nearly that sizable and if he went third party based on principle than in order to gain the votes that would go for Paul the GOP would necessarily have to shift their positions to attract those voters.
And that’s not a bad result as Ron Paul does offer some great ideas. The FED should go and many rights need to be given back to the states. I also do not fault him for wanting to cut foreign aid off, even to Israel. That’s not anti-semitic, it’s simply his fiscal soundess. While I fully support Israel, even giving them aid, there’s nothing inherently wrong with getting them to support themselves completely.
(con’t)
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:04pm(con’t);
That said, if Israel gets attacked I WILL stand for Israel and whtever they need, they’d get. Al Alwaki got the best Christmas present we had to offfer him right through the window of his car. He was an insurrector and on foreign land inciting violence against the US. Invading Iraq was fully justified and it is way past time to give Iran a firm military smack down.
Ron Paul has great ideas but theres others which cause me to not give him my support. I am glad you and Dr. Paul take a stand on constitutional principle. And, no standing on principle will not destroy the Constitution. That’s just silly talk. But I do disagree on certain things which I see as constitutionally principled which Paul does not.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:35pm@Darrin
You are being so misled like a lot of so-called Patriots of Freedom. Ron Paul would help Isreal if attacked. He just does not want to police the world. Paul is a different type of candidate, always has been, and bases all his decisions on Constitutionality. If that is wrong, then why do we even keep the Constitution around? If we do not do it right this time around, it is inevitable that we will lose our Constitutional Government completely. We are already a type of Socialist Government right now. If we do not go back to the Constitutional intent of our Gov we will lose all Liberty. Read my other posts, check out the links posted by others and listen. Let’s all stop being ostriches with our heads stuck in the sand. Stop putting Socialists and NEOCONS in our Gov.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:45pmIf Soros is the puppet master of the “left” why would there not be the same puppet masters on the “right”? There is and they hijack grass roots movements for their cause thru the very same techniques progressives have always used to herd cattle….Just look, you have so called “TEA” (Taxed Enough Already) cheering for a candidate that supports the Federal Reserve and wants to “fix” it. Any economist will tell you the Federal Reserve drives economic policy, spending and taxing, therefore is the very reason TEA began!
Ron Paul began the TEA Party….His protest of the Federal Reserve began it and it was then hijacked by elitists to further along their cause. Koch brothers are progressive elitists. Bain is an elitist venture capital group. Knowing God’s word as you do, you know these elitists (kings of the Earth) pull strings. Ron Paul has never ever bent on his rhetoric and he is not supported by big elitists groups as Koch, Bain, or Wall Street. Being ignored and blacked out clearly shows this.
The only Conservative in the Republican Party is Ron Paul. Without him in it, it will be a full blown Progressive Party of the right. Ron Paul carries 15-20% of the republican base. Running 3rd party Paul would keep that 20% steal 10% from Obama and at least 10% from the Progressive right.he would win.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:50pm420;
“Ron Paul would help Isreal if attacked.” Not necessarily. He doesn’t believe in “foreign entanglements”. Besides, much of the aid given to Israel is to prevent them from being attacked. Ron Paul’s call to end foreign aid seems to be based upon principle without reason. Thast is, he’s principled but does not allow reason to govern that principle. Cutting off aid blankly would jeopradize Israel, not help it.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:52pmForeign aid is the same thing as welfare and shows how completely contradictory the “conservative” Republican Party has become. “Conservatives” scream about the poor here taking their money yet trip over themselves to give it to Egypt, Pakistan, Israel, Somalia, Libya, and every one else in the World. Just another sign of being progressive.
No, invading another country is never valid, especially after finding out the reason was a great big load of dog crap. Especially after supporting the dictator for years you invade to take out because he was “dangerous”. It simply shows those there we are the dictator. Respect for us is lost and what being an American is tarnished. Go visit the ME and you’ll see that is true. We are our own worst enemy.
Cain said killing Al Awaki was unConstitutional like Paul, until he was told to change his position and said it wasn’t…..We could have brought him in alive quite easily. Let’s just hope you and I dont end up on the hit list. Of course as long as we do what were are told, we won’t…sound familiar. Read the Bible…
Further progression of this country will only end in it’s destruction. It’s coming and inevidentable. Progressives have eaten the parties and too many are blind and just don’t care. Sad but true. Games over….
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:54pm420;
“On January 9, Ron Paul addressed Congress to voice his opposition to a House resolution expressing strong support for Israel in its invasion of Gaza, and branding Hamas as a terrorist organization. Ron Paul called for American neutrality in conflicts that have nothing to do with the United States.”
This is from a pro Ron Paul site. That site quotes Paul: “The resolution clearly takes one side in a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States or US interests. I am concerned that the weapons currently being used by Israel against the Palestinians in Gaza are made in America and paid for by American taxpayers. What will adopting this resolution do to the perception of the United States in the Muslim and Arab world? What kind of blowback might we see from this? What moral responsibility do we have for the violence in Israel and Gaza after having provided so much military support to one side?
As an opponent of all violence, I am appalled by the practice of lobbing homemade rockets into Israel from Gaza. I am only grateful that, because of the primitive nature of these weapons, there have been so few casualties among innocent Israelis. But I am also appalled by the longstanding Israeli blockade of Gaza — a cruel act of war — and the tremendous loss of life that has resulted from the latest Israeli attack that started last month.”
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-12/ron-paul-on-israel/
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:08pm@Darren
Cutting off aid would make Israel non dependent. That means they would be stronger. By depending on the US Israel has to do as we say. Israel is a US puppet.
What reason does the US need to support Israel?
It is not part of my salvation.
They do not worship the same God as believers.
They do not have a Constitutional government.
So what reason should US citizens send their tax dollars to Israel?
History shows Israel is simply a beachhead FOB against Muslims and nothing more. That’s the very reason the British established it to begin with if we are honest about it.
If a Israeli needs my help, I‘ll gladly open my door to them as I would anyone but I’m not sending any child of mine to fight their wars while being defiant of God. By doing so I’m only enabling the defiance to God and rejection of Christ.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:12pmOkie;
“If Soros is the puppet master of the “left” why would there not be the same puppet masters on the “right”? So, who is it?
“Ron Paul began the TEA Party” No, he did not start it. Nobody really “started it”. But anyone creditted in spurring it into motion would be Rick Santelli though neither he “started” the Tea Party movement. The greatest part ofthis movement is its goround level support. It’s a genuine movement from the bottom people up. Yea, there have been politicians who have taken some control of some Tea Party organizations, my own state senator in Texas in one of them, but by ad large it’s a huge independent movement.
“Koch brothers are progressive elitists.” Yes, they are. Well, libertarian progressives.
“Bain is an elitist venture capital group.” Actually, it’s an enormously successful captitalist group and one from which no Conservative or libertanrian should shun.
“Ron Paul has never ever bent on his rhetoric and he is not supported by big elitists ”. one hing Paul has done and does do is to propose pork money for his district and then vote against the pork he proposed and still get the pork in the end because it was attached to a bill which was very likely to pass.
“Ron Paul carries 15-20% of the republican base.” I highly doubt those numbers. Paul has some great ideas but he’s not the hagiographic politician you portray him as.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:20pmOkie;
“No, invading another country is never valid, especially after finding out the reason was a great big load of dog crap.” Invading Iraq was very valid. When pondering whether or not to support the invasion of Iraq I decided on favoring it since a) Huessein had already used WMDs on his own people and therefore should NOT be in power, b) they were supporting terrorists against the US. I do believe huessein sent a check to at least one family of the 9/11 terrorist. And Iraq, as well as the US, are now far better off wthout Huessein in power than either country would be had Iraq been left alone. Bush got Congressional authority to invade and so he invaded. It’s all justifiable and constitutional.
“Especially after supporting the dictator for years you invade to take out because he was “dangerous”. That’s always a cunundrum the US faces. Who to support and for what reason. We had good reasons to support Huessein in the past and, yes, he got way too dangerous. I would like to see the US play a “smarter” role n who to support but I blame no one for sup[orting Iraq over Iran who was a huge threat to us for many decades.
“Cain said killing Al Awaki was unConstitutional like Paul, until he was told to change his position and said it wasn’t” I don’t believe he did. And if Cain did, I’d disagree with him. Alwaki’s dead and good riddance.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:27pm@Darrin
Thank you for posting that as Paul is right as usual and the NEOCONS want to just keep having war after war after war. Paul also says that the U.S. should not tell Isreal what it can and cannot do since they are their own sovereign nation. What right do we have to tell any nation what they can and cannot do unless it is something that puts us in danger. Isreal has the strength to take on all the countries of the region. They really do not need our help with that, they just need us to say do what you deem best for your country.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:29pmYes Ron Paul started it. His last election year he ran signs and adds of the ship in Boston harbor of the original TEA Party and marked on the crates were the different taxes, social policies, and federal reserve policy. Soon after TEA became a trend. The TEA party means Taxed Enough Already.if you support the Federal Reserve or believe it can be “fixed”, you are not apart of the TEA Party but a poser trying to hijack such party. That is truth. TEA had a focused goal, stop the damn taxes and the Federal Reserve. Now it stands for everything just like OWS. BOTTOM UP-Soon coming TOP DOWN….
Koch are not “libertarians”..Why wouldn’t “libertarians” back a Libertarian…Koch are the same as Soros. Koch are the Soros of the right. They both do the same things.
As a Rep “pork” or the correct term earmarks are his job. If he does not earmark it it either goes to another state or allocated to be sent by the Executive branch. Ron Paul’s earmarks are not the “pork” earmarks that are added only to gain his vote. There is a big major difference. Jim Inhofe can explain ot for you. Google it and he’ll tell you.
Ron Paul sustains the 20% constantly. Ron Paul isn’t what we are so enthusiatic about, it’s his message, a Constitutional one and he’s the only one speaking it. Thus his ability to steal votes across the board. Under Liberty, everyone has a voice and is heard.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:32pmOkie;
“Cutting off aid would make Israel non dependent. That means they would be stronger.” On this I would absolutely agree with you. But if you think we’re using Israel as a puppet, then on what exactly? One thing I would see as puppeteering is Israels’ reluctance to decimate their enemies such as the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah.
“It is not part of my salvation. No, it’s not. “They do not worship the same God as believers.
” The modern-day theology of the Jews does not accept Christ as Son of God and for the Evangelicals and most all other Christian denominations, it is most assuredly not Trinitarian. But we do find win the moder-day Jew, the roots of Christianity and this common theological ancestry should serve to help bind Israel and the US together. They are the only Democracy in thateir part ofthe world. I do not find that coincidental since Democracies have been the result of peoples following Judeo-Christian principles. “They do not have a Constitutional government. ” True, they are a confederacy. But, so what? They stand for Democracy and thus we should support that.
“So what reason should US citizens send their tax dollars to Israel? ” once israels’s gone, we’re numero uno on the Islamist hit list. “History shows Israel is simply a beachhead FOB against Muslims,”. Against Islamists, yes, but not against Muislims. Israeilis have been very giving to the Muslims in their country.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:33pmOh, another thing Darrin,
How much more do we need to spend policing the world and intervening in others affairs? Do we really need to continue to go bankrupt? If we do crash, and I think we will soon, we will not be there for anyone anymore. We will be part of the U.N. Is that what you really want?
Report Post »http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:38pm420;
“What right do we have to tell any nation what they can and cannot do unless it is something that puts us in danger. Isreal has the strength to take on all the countries of the region.” You and I can reach much agreement on this. But, you asserted that ron POaul most definietly would support Isreal if attacked. Well, they were attacked, have been attacked, and Ron Paul stood on the House floor condemning our condemnation of those attacks. That does not support your assertion.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:58pmOkie;
“His last election year he ran signs and adds of the ship in Boston harbor of the original TEA Party and marked on the crates were the different taxes, social policies, and federal reserve policy. Soon after TEA became a trend.” Even if he did run such signs, there is no connection to those signs and the Tea party movement. I do not know of any Tea Party organization which credits Ron Paul for starting their movement. And there are hundreds of such organizations. “if you support the Federal Reserve or believe it can be “fixed”, you are not apart of the TEA Party but a poser trying to hijack such party.” Not necessarily though I would agree that there is much support among Tea Partiers to get rid of the FED. i’m one of them. but I do know of others who strongly support the Tea Party ad also the FED. Furthermore, I do not see getting rid ofthe FED as a central plataeu from the Tea Party.
The Koch’s are part ofthe modernday makeup of liberaltarians. (Notice the addition of the “al”). These are libertarians, doomed to fail in my estimation, who have reached out to the left becausethey see more success with than than from Conservatives. Insomuch as the government getting involved with these choices, they, and Ron Paul as well, see legal drugs, prostitution, and gay marriage as good.
Thanks for the correction in that he asks for earmarks.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:04pm420;
“How much more do we need to spend policing the world and intervening in others affairs?‘ as much as it takes to maintain our security and that of israel’s for that matter.
Foreign affairs does not take up the bulk of money our governent spends. If you look at the national debt clock, as cited, it is Social Security and Medicare benefits promises which make up the bulk. I’m all for revamping or getting rid of them both.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:10pmDarren
Yes he did say it:
“After the May 5 GOP presidential debate in South Carolina, Bob Powell of AboveTopSecret.com asked Cain if he would consider it legal for President Obama to issue a kill order for Awlaki. Cain responded, “In his case, no, because he’s an American citizen.”
Cain continued: “If he’s an American citizen, which is the big difference, then he should be charged, and he should be arrested and brought to justice.”
Cain also stated in the same interview, “He [Awlaki] should be charged. And since he’s an American citizen, he should be tried in our courts.””
As for war, we have zero business telling any other nation what they can or can not do unless we are willing to be told what to do as well and what we have been seeing and will soon see more of. Sad dam would not do as we said was the only reason. Who are we to tell anyone what to do, that is arrogance. No Saddam and al queida connection is made up, not real, and propaganda. We simply went to war for the Saudis as we soon will do again with Iran.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:15pm@Darren
Israel is simply a proxy for the USA. We financially support them. That’s a puppet. It is a beachhead, a proxy for us surrounding Jerusalem just like Sunni have Muslim Brotherhood in the Dome of the Rock and Gaza and Shia have Hezbollah in Lebanon and Gaza. There is nothing there that is concern of a believer in Jesus Christ. Nothing. It is a lie told since the crusades.
A democracy is nothing to be fond of for it is simply mob rule. The idea of supporting every democracy is progressive my friend. Looking at Egypt now. We aren’t a “democracy”, we are a Constitutional Republic.
Lol no way. If Israel ceased to exist tomorrow that would not have anything to do with the US. We are on Islamist hit lists now, 9/11, because we began in Israel and kept going into different nations. Israel was the beech head and FOB of such conquest.
So again what reason do we really need to support Israel in anything?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:33pm@Darren
He did run such signs. I’ll see if I can find them. His idea, Taxed Enough Already, began the thought to others to start a Taxed Enough Already groups. They may not give him credit but neither do many of the OWS movements to their original fathers.
Federal Reserve drives tax policy. If you are a Taxed Enough Already protester you are protesting TAXES…….To support the Federal Reserve or think you can “fix” it (Cain, Romney) you cannot be aligned with a TEA Party. You are exactly what the TEA Party is protesting. So Cain supporters are what the TEA Party protests. Romney supporters are what the TEA Party is protesting. You cannot be both. That’s like saying an OWS protester hates Marxism! The removal of the Fed is the whole platform of the TEA Party and what started the movement!
Ron Paul does not see drugs, prostitution, etc as “good”. Do you want me telling you Halloween is bad and stop you from it because you will eat too much candy and hurt yourself? We believe the individual has the ability to chose for themselves. You believe you must tell other how to act? At least your foreign policy matches your social policy. Understand that is a progressive policy. Progressives always know better then the serfs…
Ron Paul does his job on earmarks. You act as if he should not and that is deception. Don‘t be like that and say he shouldn’t do these. He simply doesn’t bribe his vote for add on pork. Educate yourself around the difference.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:51pmNo Darrin, what he was saying is the U.S. should stay neutral in this. Quotes from his speech:
“Madame Speaker, I strongly oppose H. Res. 34, which was rushed to the floor with almost no prior notice and without consideration by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. The resolution clearly takes one side in a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States or US interests…”
“…As an opponent of all violence, I am appalled by the practice of lobbing homemade rockets into Israel from Gaza…”
“…Madame Speaker, this resolution will do nothing to reduce the fighting and bloodshed in the Middle East….”
“…I believe it would be better to focus on the security and survival of the United States, the Constitution of which my colleagues and I swore to defend just this week at the beginning of the 111th Congress…”
There is a better way to handle the conflicts over there with diplomacy and adherence to the Constitution, but I also believe we had better get our act together first. Their war has been going on for centuries over this same type of reasons. It is a religious war. It will never end.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:18pm(con’t);
(snip)
“”Al Midhar and al Hamzi were in Malaysia (thanks to the good graces of the Iraqi embassy in Malaysia and specifically the work of Shakir) for an important meeting, an al Qaeda gathering U.S. officials now believe was one of the key planning sessions for both the USS Cole bombing and the September 11 attacks. Two of the masterminds of those plots–Tawfiz al Atash and Ramzi bin al Shibh, respectively–were present. The meeting ended on January 8, 2000 (note: the CIA knew of the meeting, but they didn‘t have the manpower to monitor it or it didn’t rate high enough on their todo list, so they had the Malaysian intelligence services monitor it and report to them.).“ ”
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1144699/posts?page=5
“We aren’t a “democracy”, we are a Constitutional Republic. ” Yes, we are and no we‘re not a ’Democracy’. I wouldn’t want it any other way. We do, however, have a democratic element as our foundation. This country IS “by the people and for the people”. Israel is the *only* democracy in that part of the world. Their survival will directly affect survival. So, yes, if Israel falls, much more Islamic attenion would be given to us. Guaranteed.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:19pm420;
You’re still not supporting your assertion that Ron Paul would support Israel if attacked. “Neutral” is not “support”.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:23pmOkie;
Two of my posts never got published, nor will they despite there being another link provided. I’m not going to bother retyping them because you still got the main gist of my reply regarding Iraq and terrorism.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:27pmDarrin,
Just go here and watch and Paul will tell you his views. It is an hour long but it will set you straight on what he believes. Everyone go here and watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onJ25hE2yQ8
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:33pmI can’t find the video, but Ron Paul said he definitely would help Israel militarily IF THEY ASKED FOR IT.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 9:35pmOkie,
Count me in. Ron Paul will get my vote in 2012 no matter what. It is a time for principle and I will not make the same mistake I did in 2004 and vote for the lesser of two evils.
Vote Ron Paul 2012, because it’s the only choice.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:21pmYes, I would love to destroy the US as it stands. Let it crumble so we can restart as our founding fathers would want.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 3:18am51 earmarks requests totaling $358,303,155 from libertarian favorite Ron Pork Paul
Report Post »http://washingtonindependent.com/104609/ron-paul-one-of-only-four-house-republicans-to-request-earmarks-for-2011-budget-updated
colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 5:52am@REPUBLICORP Do you understand what earmarks are? Any money not used by State representatives will have stayed at the federal level for Obama to use for his agenda, without any transparency.
Ron Paul on Earmarks (House floor 3/10/09)
youtube.com/watch?v=VoOX9p07xOk
Ron Paul asked about Earmarks
youtube.com/watch?v=xgvrXFehWok
Ron Paul Slams Cavuto on Earmarks
youtube.com/watch?v=xoD5Yk1imBk
In Defense of Ron Paul’s Earmarks
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pamela kay
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 12:51amWe can not afford a third party right now. Not when we are up against a worldwide progressive agenda. We have to win in 2012. A third party will give the dems the election. If we can successfully get a conservative in the oval office then it would be a start. Right now we have to take baby steps before we can lunge ahead at full speed. We will have 4yrs to develope a third party and carefully gain support of the American people. We need to call or write our representitves and let them know that we are serious about a third party and maybe they will get on board with us. If not we will still be able to create this third party with qualified individuals who are not interested in playing the DC games. People who know the ins and outs and also legal council to represent us as members of a new party. We need all who run in this party to sign agreements and also understand that we will not tolerate anyone who goes against what this party stands for. We can accomplish this in 4yrs. I think the new party should be named the Conservative Party . The dems and republicans have failed the people and it is time to start over with a fresh new image that will be made clear to the people and simple to understand. If those elected fail to keep their word, “We the People ” will have the right to have them removed before their term if necessary. It is time to give the power back to the people and not the politicians that let their egos and greed that put our freedom at risk.
Report Post »olddog
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:28pmI like and respect Ron Paul, Greatly but I can not vote for him because of his foreign policy. I can not believe that if we leave our enemies alone they’ll leave us alone..Christians have had a problem with muslims since the early ages…I see No solution to that…
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:38pmWe are not going to have any foreign policy soon. We are no longer in a position to control what other countries want to do. None of the other candidates actually have any policy at all, much less foreign policy. What we have been doing has only made the world worse. We have to fix US first.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:41pmPaul Paul doesn’t have a foreign policy, he has a national suicide plan kind of like Obama’s!
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:46pmOLDDOG: “I like and respect Ron Paul, Greatly but I can not vote for him because of his foreign policy. I can not believe that if we leave our enemies alone they’ll leave us alone..Christians have had a problem with muslims since the early ages…I see No solution to that…”
Exactly. I could not vote for him because of this issue alone. The Muslims want to take over the world. I don’t understand how he cannot see that. I would be very afraid for our country if he won. He said he won’t support anyone else. Well he may as well then vote for Obama. What good will his economic plan do if our country is taken over by the terrorists? It won’t matter then. He may be a nice man but he needs to get in the real world.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:59pmolddog, what part of Ron Paul’s foreign policy do you not like? Would you state it for me?
Report Post »I love everything about his foreign policy. It allows him to balance the budget as well. It saves troops from dying and coming home without limbs. It stops the unrest in the Middle East. It stops much of the hate of America. Bad points? I can’t think of any.
buzdburd
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:15pmRP’s foreign policy is very simple.
Report Post »He doesn’t think that Muslim extremists are a danger to America.
Simplistic thinking like that is what caused the Twin Towers to come down!
13th Imam
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:21pmVech
” It stops the unrest in the Middle East??”
Report Post »That’s flat out absurd.
Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:32pmWe’ve been at war with Iran for 50 years! It’s time to stop the crap!
Report Post »Short video of Iran war:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3KDYE5KQE
YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:40pmRon Paul’s foreign policy ideas are simply the same recycled bad ideas that Jimmy Carter had. A foreign policy of ”let’s hide our head in the sand like an ostrich, react badly to bad situations and blame big bad America and hope that everyone leaves us alone” is not only ignorant, but also dangerous for our country. And the big winners in last November’s elections were the ones who espoused ”American exceptionalism”, not the ones who espoused ”anti-American apologism”. Ron Paul’s foreign policy message goes over well with his “faithful”… and the Code Pink/Dennis Kucinich type voters who just happen to be Democrats. Oh, did I just lump his “faithful” in with the Democrats. Well yes… yes I did.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:18pm“An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.” The foreign policy of neocons IS the problem. Our interference resulted in the rise of the current Iranian regime. It also propped up dictators like Qaddafi long enough for the radical Islamists to remove him.
Economic sanctions and threats of military force don’t work. Trade does. One of the biggest impacts the US made on the Soviet Union was not through our military, but a cultural shift through rock and roll pervading into the countries. This shift opened up trade, and allowed us to resolve things with our greatest enemy in peace. Prosperity through trade is destroyed by war, and is the strongest incentive for peace. Sanctions and threats of violence only remove that incentive.
To put it another way, how do you think life would go for you if you threatened to punch everyone in the face that you see doing something you don’t like? You would end up with everyone hating you and threatening (or enacting) violence upon you. Which is where the US is right now.
The Golden Rule is to treat others as you would like to be treated. That applies to nations as well as individuals, and if our treatment of our “enemies” is what we want upon us, so be it. Frankly, I prefer to follow Jefferson’s ideal – “Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.” Our policy needs to be one of rapid and strong defense when attacked, and none of this “nation-building” or preemptive strikes upon nation
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:46pmYou guys are being the ostriches. Ron Paul has the best, most Constitutional foreign policy of all the candidates. There are a couple links that you should check out above on Dr. Paul, and if you choose not to take a look, you are being ignorant and ignorence is not a virtue. Every election gives us the choice of the right person for the times. Sometimes we get it wrong and we pay dearly for it like we are right now. If we do not put the person who will get our fiscal house in order and start respecting the Constitution this time, all could be lost. Look at the debt clock: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ then tell me we are not about to have the worst economic crisis ever conceived in our history. If we continue, our economy will crash, our Government with it along with our Liberties. I for one do not want to see that happen whether it is with BO or a NEOCON.
Report Post »Jeff65
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 6:36am@420Patriot From my discusions with these war mongers is that they don‘t care about seeing the truth about Ron Paul’s foreign policy. They are peeing their pants about a very real threat, but they aren’t putting the threat in proper perspective. They have no idea what the experts are saying the real Islam threat is. It is happening internally, through infiltration into government regulatory bodies, thru political correctness, etc. They will take over the US without firing a shot, but through big government programs instead.
The external threat is so small it is laughable. Watching these guys pee there pants everytime they hear that Iran might get nukes. We don’t want that, but do they really thing the US intelligence would not be able to know when an attack is close? The CIA and FBI knew the attack on 911 (or some sort of attach – not sure with this) was about to take place long before it happened. Stupidity allowed the attack to happen (at least I hope it was only stupidity — just pulling your leg).
Fix the intelligence communications instead – that seems to be much more of a productive thing to do.
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:25pmHere’s another gem from Ron Paul: Paul says friendship best way to deal with Iran http://news.yahoo.com/paul-says-friendship-best-way-deal-iran-165913503.html
What a dope.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:02pmDo you know the history of the war in Iran? It‘s been going on since the 1950s for heaven’s sake! Do you think 4 more years of spending money we don’t have will solve everything? We’re broke. Get it? Broke.
Here’s a short video of the history I was talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3KDYE5KQE
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:06pmHere’s a video for those who say “I like Ron Paul except for his foreign policy”
Report Post »That is the name of the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqdH6y4-8xU
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:01pmUBETHECHANGE this is for u sir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »HarmonyCorruption
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:15pmYoung Patriot, I know he said that. I was replying to ReconMarine. I fully support Ron Paul in his run!
Report Post »SpinMD
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:39pmWrite him in! I am voting for RP in Nov 2012 no matter what!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:39pmNo you are voting for Obama with a Ron Paul vote!
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:19pm@Garym
No sir, your vote for a NEOCON and not for Paul is a vote against our Constitution and for economic collapse. I am waking people up to Ron Paul in my community at a great pace. By the time we vote in the primaries, I am thinking RP will get 60% here. All of you that keep opposing Paul are just MSM brainwashed. He is the most honest candidate and stays with what he believes and you can look at his views from 20-30 years ago and they are the same Constitutionally sound ideas as today.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:15pmStraw Polls skewed much?
Straw Polls are typically not scientific, and they can’t be compared to nationwide polls.
In most major polls, Ron Paul remains in single digits behind Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Rick Perry among those likely to vote in the Republican primaries or caucuses. And like Michele Bachmann (who had some skewed poll results), he’s dropped several percentage points since October, according to the some polls.
But alas, Ron Paul continues to do well in the straw polls because of the way they’re designed and because it’s easier for his “enthusiastic and very loyal supporters” (being nice here) to take part.
At the Values Voter Summit last month, young Paul supporters showed up by the busload to vote for him in that straw poll. The result? He won 37 percent of the vote, much more than Herman Cain (23 percent).
In Illinois over the weekend, Paul’s 52 percent win over his GOP rivals comes with interesting caveats.
Voters in the straw poll (who had to contribute $5 to the Illinois Republican Party for the privilege) could participate either in person or [online].
Paul won 66.5 percent of the [votes cast over the Internet] but just 8 percent of those cast in person (the way actual elections happen), suggesting a [heavy online turnout] by his supporters. Romney, on the other hand, took 35 percent of the in-person vote and Cain won 29 percent of that vote.
The continuing saga of… fools and their money are soon part
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:23pmNie post Yepima….
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:30pmCON’T: …fools and their money are soon parted. But by choice in the case of Ron Paul for the express purpose of skewing of polls and supposed $$ support.
Ron Paul’s “enthusiastic and very loyal supporters” (still being nice here) were even able to manipulate the [online donations] for him from those who supposedly stated their occupation was “Military.” Anything over $200.00 is supposedly verified by law, but anything under? Well… you be the judge…
Smart and internet savvy? Let’s just say… internet savvy for all intents and purposes.
Report Post »moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:37pmyep,
Report Post »so that’s how they do it…. i just figured they were lying when they made the claim that more military donated to paul than any of the other candidates…. my spouse is retired military & i know for a fact it’s a lie… paul has very little military support (active duty and retired)!
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:41pmYawn flouride heads
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:06pmSo you go to great length to call Ron Paul supporters liars, cheats, ignorant etc. Who cares!
Report Post »It’s the policies of a candidate that are important. Let’s discuss them!
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:13pmYesImAConservative
Nope, you’re a neocon.
Yep, Herman Cain is a Federal Reserve Agent.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:30pm>MOEBETTA.
I’m Retired Army and have come in contact with thousands upon thousands of Active Duty, Reserve and Guard from ALL branches over my career and can honestly say, I personally do not know anyone who ever expressed an interest in Ron Paul or his politics. Not to say I know “everyone’s political leanings or quiet desires” (and many don’t put voice to them), but not a one has volunteered that information to me and I didn’t search it out either.
That being said, I know Ron Paul has a very young and uninhibited (if you get my drift) following and some may have been or are connected to the Military in one way shape or form. I’m guessing the Reserves / Guard to an extent and those “formers” who were not happy with their TIS (Time In Service) for one reason or another… maybe like the “un-happy Marine” who was written about on the BLAZE… the OWS one with the tear gas canister to his noggin (hope he‘s doin’ okay). We know the Paul supporters are out there carrying their placards amongst their Liberal brothers and sisters.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:35pm>WAKEUP. Go back to sleep. I’ll wake you up in time for morning cartoons, Cap’n Crunch and the short bus. Remember… it’s a school day… brush your teeth and put on clean undies, panties… or whatever it is you wear underneath your knickers.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:43pm>VECHORIK.
Sorry if the truth hurts, but hey… you’re a Lib, you’ll get over it in a toke or two.
Don‘t flatter yourself with the let’s debate the issues crap. All you have to do is read what I write and you know where I stand and where I’ve stood with “the issues.” And don‘t tell me you’re not reading VECHORIK. You may bore me, but I know I don’t bore you… I give you Ron Paul supporters a platform where the MSM, BLAZE and FOX you all cry about isn’t… LMAO!
Gimme‘ a story about a turd and I’ll make it a story Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters will love to gnaw at… LOL.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:43pmall that DU really did u good yepimaneocon keep voting for the same main stream republicans and see how they benfit the country. its the same old party bs thats taking this country down bud.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:57pmlol this is for u YEPIMANEOCON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 7:00pmOh, oh, sorry V-MAN. Didn’t see your screen name there.
Did you write something?
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:21pmYepimaconservative?
You sir must be a NEOconsevative. I am close to being a retired Vet and I know a lot of Vets voting for Paul so what you are saying does not make sense. I have talked to at least a couple hundred at Tea events that are for RP. Just because you must like war does not mean that we have to vote NEOCON sir.
Report Post »HarmonyCorruption
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:06pm“Ron Paul is a FLAKE. He would hand the election to Obama if he ran as a third party candidate. He doesn’t care about the American people but only his self-serving self. He should be in a nursing home and not the white house.”
Really now? Self serving? He has been standing up for the Constitution for 30 years, I’d hardly call that self-serving. Again Cain people, answer me: What do you see in Cain that is great?
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:09pmYou are retarded. he said he WOULD never run as a third party, jesus read.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:11pmDarn right! And where do these unthinking trolls come from? Are they the ones that led the republican party down the road of socialism? Are they the fodder of the RINO?
People, WAKE UP!
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:11pmI thnk you are misguided. I support Cain too. But, Ron Paul will not run IF he does not win the nomination because it would be a full endorsement of Obama. Soros would even fully fund his independent run. To think that Paul is the devil is misguided. To really dislike his foreign policy; I understand that. Furthermore, the TeaParty is Great. It is how this country was/is formed. I am a gggggggranson of the Son’s of Liberty outside of Boston who laid siege to Boston after the first Tea-Party driving the British out. We will Kick their butt’s out again, politically or otherwise.
Report Post »resme
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:14pm@young, He was quoting someone, He’s a Ron Paul kook just like me and you.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:20pmOh bifurcated one… your name is as diametrically apposed as your logic.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:26pm“What do you see in Cain that is great?”
Well, for one thing, Mr. Cain doesn’t attract a bunch of kooks who tries to dominate every forum on the internet posting the same garbage over and over, regardless of what the forum is about.
I’ve never even seen a Cain supporter posting political statements on on a forum about birds or one about cars.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:29pmCain is outside the beltway for starters. The US is a lot like a conglomerate and we need a CEO to run it not a politician. I dont care who it is but I want someone who ran companies, met payrolls, had to do real cuts b/c they had to answer to board members and stockholders. Those with good business ethics know what I am talking about. I never bs’d my clients if I didnt know the anser I told them so and would get them an answer in X period of time. Of course I would inflate that timeline so when I cameback to them in a shorter period I sounded like a miracle worker :) !
Anyway Im sick of politicians esp career politicans who really havent done anything monumental in 5, 10, 20 or 30 years in office. I am prepared to take my chances with someone completely “off the grid” in politics. I dont care if its Cain, Trump, Welch etc I want someone in office who has held a real job had to answer to people and understands 1+1=2. All these guys dont get it, they talk about doing X and Y yet still no solution to get jobs and the economy going. Cutbacks and deregulation is only a half or third of the problem. You still have to deal with China and overseas production problem. How do you compete against nations making IDENTICAL products (for sake of argument) using slave labor?
Id rather have a CEO in play than a politician to solve this problem, dont care who it at this point.
Report Post »TAPGW http://SavingtheRepublic.com
fatjack
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:57pmSavingtheRepublic.com
Why did Cain change jobs every 4-5 years???? The current claims makes me wonder. Was he as successful as claimed?
Running a hamburger/pizza franchise doesn‘t equate being a successful businessman and doesn’t belong in the same sentence with Huntsman, Romney or Trump success stories, business wise.
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:14pmWillie,
“Well, for one thing, Mr. Cain doesn’t attract a bunch of kooks who tries to dominate every forum on the internet posting the same garbage over and over, regardless of what the forum is about.”
I’m sure that the incredible irony of YOU posting THAT is lost on you, but us “Paulbots got a kick out of it.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:11pm@QPWILLIE
“Well, for one thing, Mr. Cain doesn’t attract a bunch of kooks who tries to dominate every forum on the internet posting the same garbage over and over, regardless of what the forum is about.”
Hermain Cain supporters are in complete denial or are checked out. Did Herman Cain support Tarp? Is Cain not a schill for the establishment to continue the policies of the federal reserve? Does Cain believe he can fix an organization whose sole intent was to defaud the public and create inflation to the detriment of everyone else – and to saddle the taxpayers with debt, while creating additional taxation (16th amendment, IRS), along with the growth of government, the warfare/welfare state (WWI was shortly after). Please remind me of the present value of our dollar’s purchasing power compared to 1913? So QP, it’s obvious you agree with Cain supporters who have no problem continuing with the above. Again, who is the kook?
“I’ve never even seen a Cain supporter posting political statements on on a forum about birds or one about cars.” – Seriously? Who gives a flying crap about what Paul supporters do. Is that the best you’ve got? Grow a set and get over your pettyness. Maybe you should take some midol because you are awful bitchy around here.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:13amI am not one to bash other candidates. I try to stick to facts. I’ve been waiting for the news media to turn on Mr. Cain and say this — so I’ll say it: Mr. Cain said “stupid people are ruining America.” When it comes to foreign relations, how Washington works, military history — Mr. Cain is stupid. I could post dozens of instances where he “mis-spoke“ and ”mis-spoke“ is code word for ”didn’t know = stupid.”
Report Post »Theodwulf
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:04pmI hope he stays true to his word… If the Republicans won’t do as he wants…The Democrats will certainly NOT do it either.. Better off with a RINO than any flavour of Democrat
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:14pmWe are not going to just let a Rino happen either.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:43pmDemocrat=Communism now
RINO=Communism down the road
It is time we stop the insanity of voting for “the lesser of two evils”
Report Post »Evil is evil and leads to destruction either way. This country does not have much time left to fix itself.
Time to dump the ballast.
blue_sky
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:03pmMany The Blaze readers are old neo-cons who want to think of themselves as true conservative and true patriot. The weak point is… they do not know or understand US Constitution. Or they are simply dishonest.
Report Post »resme
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:10pmExactly. They want to fix the current system(cain), Instead of ending programs and shrinking government. Progressives destroyed both parties. Have fun with the banker.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:30pmmany a paulbot are neomorons………….
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:16pmActually, that’s not true. Ron Paul would likely be at the top of the polls, were it not for his naive views on foreign affairs. I agree that it’s time for our troops to come home … but being nice to our enemies won’t make them our friends. Their culture equates niceness to weakness.
Report Post »moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:32pmcircled, re many a paulbot are neomorons………….
hahahahahahaha! i love that…. i liked the term neoliberals; but yours is way better!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:33pmLook4DBigPicture
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:16pm
Actually, that’s not true. Ron Paul would likely be at the top of the polls, were it not for his naive views on foreign affairs. I agree that it’s time for our troops to come home … but being nice to our enemies won’t make them our friends.
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Will shooting at them make them our friends???……
If I shot at you, would you be my friend afterward???
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:02pmHow could it be that Madeleine Morgenstern merely *forgot* that Dr Paul just won the Illinois poll? Blaze is rigging the race the very same way Fox News does, and the very same way MSNBC does.
We’ve been inundated with stories about wrong way drivers, guys in lawn chairs with helium balloons, anything, ANYTHING to avoid acknowledging that Dr. Paul just won a big poll. Hey, maybe we need more articles on knitting?
You nice folks go ahead and vote for the guy they tell you to vote for. As for me, I will think for myself and choose a candidate that stands for America.
Report Post »JOEYBLUEYES
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:58pmthen don’t, no 3rd party , and obitla will be defeated
Report Post »HarmonyCorruption
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:58pmHave fun with Cain the lobbyist.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:18pmThe Blaze was sheepish to provide the full interview where Ron Paul exposes Cain as a banker.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hosUQfHOYlo
CatB
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:57pmAnyone who would run under a third party from the R’s would be a traitor and his name would go down with Benedict Arnold should they get Obama re-elected.
Report Post »resme
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:05pmSo we choose between the lesser evil? No thanks.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:12pmYou sound like the kind of person who is “afraid to throw their vote away”. Pssst – that’s how they make you sheep vote the way they want you to…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:47pmNO .. I am working to get a conservative candidate .. and not the GOP MSM pick ..NOW!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:48pmYou two sound like Obama supporters! (or Ron Paul) … both have delusional supporters.
TEA!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:04pmCatB
Your statement is stupid and progressive.
Are you ignorant of how the Republican party began?
Do you deny progressives have infiltrated the Republican party?
Are you ignorant the puppet masters want nothing more then for you to vote party line so to control you?
The only traitors are those who vote party line only. They are traitors to principle and values and should be tarred and feathered for destroying our once great country.
Thanks CatB for encouraging to continue what destroyed our country. Thanks so much.
If your candidate supports the Fed then stop saying TEA for you totally contradict the TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already is tired of taxes which are caused by the Federal Reserve. If you knew anything, you’d know that. You DON’T!
TEA!
Report Post »louise
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:15pmResme….the lesser of two evils is still evil.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:27pm“The lesser of two evils is still evil” — LOL Now THAT’s a statement we can all agree upon!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:35pm@OKIE
No I am realist .. we didn’t get in this mess in the last few years .. it has taken nearly 100 .. but we are approaching the end .. unlike you I do not need to call names or insult others to make my point. Some of us are working to change things .. others are taking the easy route and p*ssing and moaning but WORKING!
TEA!
and no I will not stop saying it!
Report Post »moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:39pmwhy is it that the paulitarian trolls always try to marginalize everyone by calling them “sheep” or part of the “establishment.” one of the other attributes u share w/ your progressive cousins…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:54pm@CatB
If you are a realist you would realize calling someone a Benedict Arnold is a serious charge and calling names…Rut roe on you…
Voting for the Federal Reserve and saying TEA makes you an useful idiot, that is fact. You are protesting (TEA) the very thing you are supporting! The Federal Reserve. Useful idiot is the definition of doing just that! Rut roe again.
What are you working to change by encouraging voting down Party lines? Nothing. Both parties are progressive! BOTH….
You are all talk and no walk…Your actions do not match your rhetoric!
If you want to say TEA ok but you only embarrass yourself and destroy the TEA message by saying TEA and then that you support a candidate that supports the Federal Reserve!
If truth upsets you, tough. It is still truth.
TEA!, which means Taxed Enough Already caused by an irresponsible Federal Reserve that lowers our dollar value leading to HIGHER taxes!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:04pmmoebetta, you want to count the lies and name-calling in the posts here against Ron Paul?
Report Post »It’s not fair to say only Ron Paul supporters participate in bad behavior.
Some “lies” are probably ignorance, but there’s no excuse for name-calling….no matter what candidate one prefers.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:38pmCatB-Waiting for your explanation of how supporting someone who supports the Federal Reserve is aligned with the TEA Party…….
Would love to hear you explain how supporting the very institution that creates higher taxes is part of the TEA Party…..
Surely you can clearly articulate this for us CatB…..
TEA!
Report Post »resme
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 6:16pmSad, The tea party was hijacked by neo-cons and other big government social conservatives. You guys really know nothing of true conservatism. If ron paul doesn’t get the nomination, I hope he runs for a third party. Let’s see get screwed by a democrat or screwed by a republican, Wait which one wants to impose higher taxes on the middle class? I’ll choose that banker.
Thank you progressives for destroying this country since 1913 and brainwashing people with news media ( Fox, msnbc).
Report Post »Miss Anne
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:57pmRon Paul is such a creepy old geezer. He acts like Sam Drucker on Petticoat Junction, a piddly old poop who can’t even move a mop. We conservatives DEMAND someone a bit more forceful and experienced, who doesn’t want crystal meth legalized.
Report Post »Phoenixsoulfire
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:59pmAlso who is ok with Iran getting a nuke
Report Post »resme
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:02pmYou are not a conservative sorry.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:07pmAnd who is willing to compromise with democrats and lead us deeper into debt in exhcnage for political favors.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:09pmYou have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Ron Paul is more experienced than any other candidate. He is the only true conservative.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:09pmAnd let‘s don’t forget – he has to have fabulous hair, or else we won’t get the republican female vote. Sheesh.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 1:14amWe real Conservatives will only vote for a candidate that proposes a plan to have huge spending cuts, elimination (not restructure) of unnecessary (unconstitutional) federal departments and agencies, creates no new taxes, downsizes the federal workforce, does not raise the debt ceiling, does not bailout private corporations, implements sound monetary policies, acts to allow States to elect US Senators, limits the federal Government through a strict adherence to the federal Constitution, stops funding the UN, removes the US’ membership out of the UN, does not direct the Federal Reserve Chairman to print more money into the economy, makes a stand against abortions by signing pro life bills, appoints conservative judges, brings our troops home to secure our own borders, does not send our troops to foreign nations to protect their Rulers and Citizens, gives a big HELL NO! to the global elitists and their Marxist agenda, eliminates the IRS, acts to abolish the federal Income Tax, stops all federal subsidies to private companies, drills here now, removes tough business regulations, understands the economy, seeks free market solutions, fully supports the Second Amendment, dismantles the ATF, FDA, TSA, does not raise taxes, lowers taxes, stops borrowing money (especially from foreign nations), stops giving money away to foreign nations and our enemies, stops the Nanny State, ends all welfare, cuts benefits to illegals and their anchor babies, etc. THE ORIGINAL TEA PARTY!
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:53pmMr. Gingrich would make a fine candidate – he is very smart – but, really, I don’t know why anyone in there right mind would want to run for President.
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:04pmListen to this debate then…why someone steps up to the plate is because the country is more important than themselves. Newt is a great example of that. He is my choice. Cain in this debate lacks understanding of some of the questions asked and defers to Gingrich to answer first.
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Cain-Gingrich-Debate-Lincoln-Douglas-Style/10737425199-1/
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:21pmSo, there is something amiss.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:25pmAlan Keyes has a great mind now.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:32pmI have already heard Mr. Gingrich speak many many times. Don’t need to evaluate his intelligence or perspicacity any more. Again he would make a fine choice.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:52pmNewt is just another liberal:
“Gingrich Backs Obamacare’s Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance
Sunday, 15 May 2011 07:18 PM
By Tim Collie
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Sunday that he strongly supports a federal mandate requiring citizens to buy health insurance – a position that has been rejected by many Republicans, including several who likely will be running against him for the Republican presidential nomination.”
Report Post »http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/gingrich-health-care-insurance/2011/05/15/id/396426
Look4DBigPicture
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:05pmI’m with you on Gingrich. Our country needs someone who can hit the ground running knowing exactly what’s to expect …someone with great ideas AND experience. Gingrich did a great job under both Reagan and Clinton administrations, and will make a great POTUS.
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:06pmGingrich/Rubio
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:08pmThe fat man is not through singing yet. Yes, I heard that as well. The problem is : We don’t really get to decide who is President.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:38pmNewt pressed his first wife to finalize their divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. Following that, he then cheated on his second wife with his current wife. Trying to impeach a president for infidelity while engaging in it yourself will take some explaining. His marital behavior is going to raise a lot of eyebrows among the social conservatives and make it very difficult to gain the votes he will need to carry the Bible belt states.
Newt was forced to return a $4.5 million book advance after the House Ethics Committee questioned its appropriateness. The following year, the committee found that he had inappropriately used tax-exempt donations to fund a college course he taught from 1993-1995. In 1997, he was forced to pay a $300,000 fine for his actions, and was barely reelected as speaker of the House. Gingrich stepped down from his position and resigned from the House in 1999.
Newt and Nancy Pelosi making a global warming video for one world government:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154
searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:02pmSome of us still don’t get it – we need someone smarter than “ us ” to run the country.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:03pmWe are on the verge of ” War.”
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:07pmOne bomb out of guile and trickery would be enough to destroy most hope. One can not afford to trust anyone.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:09pmOur alliance with Israel is our hope.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 4:44pmIsrael has no qualms, they will attack if threatened. We hesitate, but will follow through as a second.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:20pm8jrts, that wasn’t even close. Newt made Herman look like Ned in the first grade reader.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:04pm8JRTS
It looked to me like they were kinda cuddly with each other, maybe thinking of running together? Two insiders together. Remember, Cain has run for President before and for Congress. He is in the thick of things in Washington no matter what some want to believe. More of the same.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:49pmThe world is too dangerous for a president with Mr. Paul’s foreign policies. I could never vote for him.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:00pmYes, weak minded easily get scared even if they have the most nukes. Socialists, Pentagon and bankers use those useful idiots to serve special interests, for example, to pamper trade unions at Boeing and Lockheed Martin with never-ending wars.
Report Post »resme
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:17pmReally? How does us worrying about third world nations and armies make us safer? What if Christians are for peace and not preemptive war?
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:17pmSo instead you are going to vote for guys who allowed North Korea to get nukes and are GOING TO allow Iran to get nukes?
Because, don’t look now, but no one is going to do a damn thing about Iran. NO ONE. In fact, all of the other candidates take it one step further, and they give money to the Palestinian Authority who then turns around and gives it DIRECTLY to terrorists! So you are concerned about America’s security, so you are going to vote for a guy that gives terrorists money? Huh?
Meanwhile, Ron Paul is the ONLY one who would cut off the UN, cut off all this massive foreign aid, and bring our troops home to protect our southern border. You aren’t thinking clearly, you just like the guy with the good hair, or the black guy.
Sheeple Alert!
Report Post »SheriS
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:48pmUnfortunately for Mr. Paul, I will stand with Herman Cain! Mr. Paul acts like he is 90, is arrogant and believes he is something special! I classify him as an “angry old man” and thanks to his obnoxious supporters, the Tea Party, I have dropped all connections with that organization because of their disgusting behavior at the “ debates” I’ve seen! Their behavior is that of high school students not grown adults and have shown no respect for the other potential candidates! The Tea Party started out with great purpose that I supported, but that seems to have gone away and it now just another obnoxious group of adults acting like “dummycrats”–not behavior I ever expected from Conservatives!
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:11pmGood job your a sheep!
Report Post »moebetta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:28pmwait a minute…. don’t call all paul supporters “the tea party”… the tea party is comprised of all sorts of people; some of them “happen” to be paul supporters… the paul supporters (paulitarians, paulbots, whatever u want to call them) happened to infiltrate the tea party AND the 9-12 project, in hopes of growing their numbers… please don’t knock the tea party by assuming they are all paul supporters…. i would say that the % is probably about the same as it is w/ the population… they’re real good at pretending their #’s are bigger than they are, but they’re not! AND, they’re spoilers (not just in presidential elections)!!!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:30pmI’m Tea Party and vote for Ron Paul!
Report Post »This is funny — have you seen the Herman Cain drinking game?
It’s about him sticking that pink tongue out of those black lips so much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQviU5ih5k
reconmarine
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:46pmIllinois much like California is like getting support from a communist government. What they want is NEVER good for the U.S.
Report Post »reconmarine
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:45pmRon Paul is a FLAKE. He would hand the election to Obama if he ran as a third party candidate. He doesn’t care about the American people but only his self-serving self. He should be in a nursing home and not the white house.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:04pmSo, since you don’t want to “throw your vote away”, I assume you’ll be voting for Obama?
Sheep.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:42pmIllinois would love for Mr. Paul to run.
Report Post »reconmarine
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:45pmAbsolutely! Obamaville would love for Ron Paul to win the nomination and be crushed by Obama.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:47pmHe shows up on the ballot in my state and I’ll vote for him. He’s THE only candidate talking about making government SMALLER.
IMHBLO, that “IS” the deal breaker. Government is wildly, hysterically, insanely out of control.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:52pmRuler4You
Report Post »“He’s THE only candidate talking about making government SMALLER.”
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That is just not true. Romney is the only big government out there. You need to pay closer attention. I could never vote for Ron Paul.
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Young Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:13pmThan you need to pay more attention shasta, paul is the only choice. Why do you think he is so demonized, and 99% of people dont know **** about him but 100% of people have an opinion on him. So great.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:40pmThere is only One Fine Thread holding our World together – our love for the Lord.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:52pmRecon: Probably why you survived is your thinking, plus the Lord – Hope you belong to Him.
Report Post »HarmonyCorruption
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:42pmWallace wanted him to say yes so bad! I‘m glad he stood firm on all of his answers and didn’t stutter. I hope that he keeps gaining ground!
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:39pmRon Paul won Illinois GOP straw poll with 52%.
Report Post »More and more people support Ron Paul when they learn his detailed economic plan to balance the budget in three years (website: RonPaul2012.)
qpwillie
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:56pmIt shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that Ron Paul won a straw poll in the state that gave us 0bama and his band of thugs. What else would you expect?
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:05pm@qpwillie, does that mean that Cain won in Florida due to illegal Hispanics and socialist-progressive Jews? Looks like neo-cons like twist the facts. If Cains was celebrated due to his win in Florida, Paul should be celebrated by his supporters as well.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:22pmI will have to agree Blu-sky. No reason to condem Paul. He is a good guy. But I like HERMAN CAIN!!!
GO HERMAN!!! the Non polotician.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:27pmron paul keeps winning all these straw polls yet he only polls with 9%. i would think that paulbots would love Cain’s 999 plan CAIN / Paul 2012
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:10pmI hear these disgusting Neocons on Fox News constantly praising Herman “I worked for the Fed, don’t audit it“ Cain talking about ”He’s got appeal because he is looked at like an outsider”.
I fall out of my chair like…WTF!?!?!
He bragged HIMSELF about being such an INSIDER at the Federal Reserve Bank!
In the “belly of the beast” is what he called it, either making him indigested, chewed up FOOD, or DOOKIE! Because he sure wasn’t an Alka Seltzer in the belly of that beast, nor was he Syrup of Ipecac!
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:35pmCain was chairman of the Federal Reserve bank. He is part of the SYSTEM, means part of the problem.
No wonder, neo-cons, socialist and the media would refer to him as a pizza man rather than a banker.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:15pmYou pay attention blue-sky, keep it up.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:38pmBoth Herman Cain and Karl Marx are strong supporters of the Federal Reserve:
“5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.”
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 5:29pmAgain, Paul just said he is not going to run 3rd party.
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