Ron Paul Rallies Supporters After Fourth Place SC Finish: ‘This Is the Beginning of a Long, Hard Slog’
- Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:27pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul told supporters Saturday that the momentum of his campaign, and cause, will continue.
“This is the beginning of a long, hard slog,” Paul said. Paul placed fourth in the South Carolina primary, behind Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum.
The Hill notes that Paul’s speech was notably devoid of any attacks on his competitors. The Texas Congressman focused on most of his libertarian talking points and campaign momentum, stating that supporter numbers for his campaign “have been growing.”
“In the beginning, I thought it would just be promotion of a cause,” said Paul.”Then it dawned on me: When you win elections and you win delegates, that’s how you promote a cause.”
During his speech in Columbia, Paul vowed to continue campaigning, noting that only 37 delegates–a tiny fraction of what is needed to win the party nomination–had been awarded so far. The Chicago Tribune reports that supporters greeted Paul’s denunciation of the U.S. monetary system by thrusting their fists into the air and chanting, “End the Fed! End the Fed!”
Paul concluded his speech by saying that his campaign would “win this battle for peace and prosperity.”
AP reports that Paul is heading home to Texas from South Carolina for a day off before flying to Tampa, Monday for a nationally televised debate on NBC. Paul was also scheduled to appear in a CNN debate Thursday but was otherwise bypassing Florida, which holds its primary January 31.
Advisers tell AP that Paul will probably head to Maine, whose caucuses begin February 7, and then onto caucus states like Minnesota, Nevada and Colorado. His advisers have long promised to follow the model used by President Barack Obama’s campaign in 2008, believing Paul’s young, Internet-savvy army would turn out to caucus for him in large numbers.
AP highlights of Paul’s speech
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Tear Em Up
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:56pmIt IS the beginning of a long hard slog…home for Mr. Paul……
http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_99_Jan._21st._2012.mp3
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:37pmNope, unfortunately FRAUD Paul needs the applause of his cult members to stroke his ego. Or it may be that he likes to watch reruns of his talking on TV. What a guy.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:21amThe only cult members are the ones that want WW3 causing destruction. I read the Bible, I am not stupid. I see what your Christians are trying to do.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:48pmAm I the only one who remembers Obama using the “Tough Slog” reference for his global warming pact a while back ? Not that it matters…but….slogging doesn’t seem to be much of an uplifting or optimistic euphemism.
Report Post »godhatesacoward
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:06pmI agree.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:28amWell, I remember Ron Paul claiming in the NH debate that he was the only one “in the Democratic Party” who understood judicial racism against blacks in this country (now there’s a “libertarian” thought Holder wholeheatedly agrees with). Maybe all those neo-libs in the audience cheering for Paul triggered the Freudian slip.
I also remember Obama talking about “my Muslim faith.”
Jesus explained such slips of the tongue clearly: “Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.”
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:31amWe all need to support Paul in VA, If you are from VA lets give Paul a landslide victory there. If you are for Santorum or Gingrich or Paul this is an obviously good strategy since Romney and Paul are the only two on the ballot.
Paul adds a lot to this election cycle anyway. Lets all at least do this for him.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:28am@ patrick
Report Post »Maybe the Santorum and Gingrich folks in Virginia will offer to vote for either Paul or Romney if a Paul or Romney supporter in Florida will vote for Santorum or Gingrich. Didn’t the Nader and Kerry supporters try to do an exchange like that in 2004?
kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:36am@Patrick Henry II
Paul adds a lot to this election cycle anyway. Lets all at least do this for him.
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You are pathetic, dude. Paul has divided the Republican Party, and he’ll help Obama get re-elected. We don’t owe that traitor one freaking vote.
LibertarianRight
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:48am@Kryptonite: Paul has brought forth many needed ideas to the Republican Party by pointing out areas that it fails to properly support the Constitution. It is PEOPLE LIKE YOU that have divided the party – with crap like that.
Report Post »Callie369
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:37amPaul has some good DOMESTIC ideas, but his foreign policy will get us killed! He doesn‘t stand a snowball’s chance in he11 of getting elected. It‘s really pathetic how people keep wasting their money on him KNOWING he can’t win. Talk about idiots!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »GB__The Holy Warmonger
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:38amIf anyone thinks the Republican Party is anything more than a “means to an end” your loyalty to the country is in question. If you’re supporting a candidate for any other reason than to help restore this country to Constitutional governance then your understanding of correct principles is in question.
I support Ron Paul because I believe he would most closely govern by Constitutional principles. He has not lost yet and is still very much in the running.
For those who reverence George Washington don’t forget what he said about political parties and foreign entanglements.
Report Post »Love_John_Galt
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 6:42amSarah Palin / Tea Party / 9-12ers have complexly abandoned their principles by supporting an unethical/crook like Newt! They will hand Obama another 4 years on a silver platter! What a joke!
Liberals, Independents, and Libertarians will never vote for Mitt or Newt.
Come on Florida Republicans – prove you understand the importance of this election. Stand with the Constitution! Don’t just talk-the-talk!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:45am@ Callie369…
Please tell me where Dr Pauls foriegn policy is wrong…USING THE CONSTITUTION!!
ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8
The Congress shall have Power:
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress….
Where does it say the PRESIDENT has any power to declare a war, send in drones, to nation build or to assasinate anyone anywhere that we as a Nation do not like? You are ignorant in Constitutional law my
Restore LIBERTY and FREEDOM…
Ron Paul 2012
Freedomluver
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:02am@kryptonite
Speaking of “traitors”, would you agree that any candidate who refuses to condemn the likes of the Patriot Act, the NDAA, and the molestation squads known as the TSA…are indeed “traitors” who spit on the Bill of Rights?
Please..do tell.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:04am@CALLIE369, First I‘m not so sure that RP can’t win the presidency, though it appears the GOP will do anything to prevent him from being their nominee. Second, we don‘t feel like we’re wasting anything, rather we’re fighting desperately to restore our republic. Take a look at the following. It does a good job of explaining how many of us feel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUXNfk4MMlI&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:35am“…, though it appears the GOP will do anything to prevent him from being their nominee.”
Ron Paul has only himself to blame for his dismal performances on a national stage as usual.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:46amCallie369
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:37am
Paul has some good DOMESTIC ideas, but his foreign policy will get us killed! He doesn‘t stand a snowball’s chance in he11 of getting elected. It‘s really pathetic how people keep wasting their money on him KNOWING he can’t win. Talk about idiots!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am not going to respond to you with a 1500 character, scathing retort, explaining the lack of your Ratiocination.
Report Post »So, in a nut shell (no pun intended), you state that Following the Constitution will get us all killed.
It‘s the Idiots that don’t realize that 19 SAUDIA ARABIANs attacked 2 Buildings.
NOT IRAQIs, NOT IRANIANS.
There has not been 1 American death from a Islamic terrorist since 911 ( Sorry, One lone nut-job in our military does not count ), yet Idiots like you go around telling people that the “Boogieman” is going to get them if we don’t attack sovereign nations.
I don’t have neither the Time or patience to educate you on middle-eastern affairs.
justangry
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 10:38amGood Morning Time2. So glad you decided to chime in. Still afraid of Freedom?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:03amJUSTANGRY. You’re idea of freedom is a wee bit different than mine and the rest of the Conservative Republicans. That’s why Ron Paul performed dismally in S.C. and the same from here on out. Well, except where the Democrats roam. Did you go to the Libertarian functions in New Hampshire when the candidates were up there? Eye opening the type of freedom that you folks on the left want.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:05amCallie369
“Paul has some good DOMESTIC ideas, but his foreign policy will get us killed!”
How do you know this? Because that’s what you heard?
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:23amJustAngry, That was a good video….I think it explains it well. The only dislike i had and it is only a half a second clip is the snapshot of OWS pepper spray scene. They were not being sprayed because they were speaking…..they were blocking a path….there were other OWS people there and they were not sprayed or even threatened…..And most of the OWS people don’t want freedom, they want Government regulations.
Time_to_End…. Could you explain what the “conservative version of freedom” is then? It would be quite interesting to know (heck i am a conservative and I would like to know), and i think it will truly help a lot of people make a choice in the General when there is a 3rd party involved…..we will vote on types of freedoms (if there is such a thing) instead of party…..That would be revolutionary for sure, It should be about that…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:29am@Time2, Can you get a bit more specific? What kind of Freedom do I want vs. the kind of a Freedom you want?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:44am@BallotBox, Yeah the essay is much better than the video. No question the video used questionable imagery. BTW, did you catch the source?
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:39pm@Freedomluver
Speaking of “traitors”, would you agree that any candidate who refuses to condemn the likes of the Patriot Act, the NDAA, and the molestation squads known as the TSA…are indeed “traitors” who spit on the Bill of Rights? Please..do tell.
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Bicker all you want. If Obama is re-elected, our Bill of Rights go down the drain ipso facto, and our Constitutional Republic is over, gone, dead. Get it?
No, I know you don’t. You won’t get behind the Republican nominee, whomever he happens to be — and it won’t be your candidate, that’s for sure. As long as Paul and his sheeple continue to divide this nation, thereby handing it over to the Commie-in-Chief on a silver platter, you are all traitors in my book.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:27pmyou communist military industrial complex pigs aren’t going to win. ;)
4God and 4Liberty,
Report Post »-Ron Paul 2012
GETLIFE
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:33pmWhat a silly rallying cry. ???
Report Post »Well no thanks’ Paul– slogging around enough as it is.
jb.kibs
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:34pm@kryptonite, so you admittedly have NO clue as to what the other candidates are all about do you?
Romney = Obama. look at the campaign contributions… Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, etc…
Newt = Globalist, Agenda 21, NWO, Carbon Tax, UN, Nato, Read his books… they will tell you all you need to know about him. he’s a good liar on stage though…
Santorum is a arrogant shmuck who would just go the road of Hitler… it’s pretty obvious by the way he speaks. he wants to “morally” dictate our lives… that is WRONG. the WELL MEANING are as dangerous as TYRANTS.
Basically, Voting for anyone but Ron Paul is voting our constitution away. ALL of their ACTIONS speak LOUDER than their WORDS. END OF STORY. There is nothing anyone can say, the PROOF is in their actions… if you are willing to ignore history and keep doing the same thing over expecting different results, by all means.. vote for anyone but Ron Paul…
4God and 4Liberty, Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:38pmPaul is a kook who has a couple of slices missing from his pizza! If he really wants to do the country a favor, he’ll quit.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 4:45pm@Kryptonite. “I remember Ron Paul claiming in the NH debate that he was the only one “in the Democratic Party” who understood judicial racism against blacks in this country”
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You dope! Are you hard of hearing!? Maybe theres a pill for that. I urge you to rewatch that debate. Paul said “**Im the only one up here** and the only one in the Democratic party that understands true racism in this country, its in the judicial system, and it has to do with enforcing the drug laws”
Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icd0T2bwaow
Santorum’s marijuana pipe:
Report Post »Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiNEQTdeG8I
kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 4:51pm@jb.kibs
so you admittedly have NO clue as to what the other candidates are all about do you?
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I have said repeatedly that my candidate of choice would have been Paul Ryan. BUT, nobody is closer to Obama than Paul. That’s why all the young neo-libs, namely, the new generation of lefty anarchists, SUPPORT HIM.
You didn’t read my comment carefully. I said I believed Newt would be reined in by Congress and We the People. Paul, OTOH, is an extremist. He is WORTHLESS both as a Congressman and a would-be president, because he listens to no one and has unfeasible plans.
If you think Paul is not as corrupt as the next guy, then deep down you view him as a godlike figure, like every other of his cult members. Anybody who has been in Washington for that long is corrupt. Paul’s agenda is rife with moral turpitude, his tactics are no different from Obama’s, and he is a freaking Islamist sympathizer who sees us as the bad guys. If I hadn’t made Jesus a promise to refrain, foul language would be erupting just about now.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 5:05pm@Cause4Liberty
Report Post »DUH! Yes, you nitwit. “Up here,” means among the debating candidates,“ and in the Democratic Party” means just that. Paul is in the Republican Party — allegedly — not in the Democratic Party. Furthermore, there was no reason for him to bring in the entire Democratic Party, when he failed to mentioned the entire Republican Party. You wanna play the Clinton semantics game, lamebrain? I warn you, he was impeached.
Cause4Liberty
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 5:15pm@Kryptonite. Hey Lamebrain, they’re running for President of the United States, NOT the President of the Republican party! DuH!
Paul was saying he is the only one in BOTH parties to understand the prejudice of the judicial system! Sounds pretty darn Presidential.
Your first comment on this thread suggests that Paul was senile in his statment. Clearly youre the negligent one.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:30pm@Cause4Liberty
they’re running for President of the United States, NOT the President of the Republican party!
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Is that what I said, dodo? You are so angry you can’t even think properly. I said, If your argument is correct, then why didn’t he allude to the entire Repub Party but injected the entire Dim Party into his statement? BTW, it IS a presidential race, which means you attack Obama and his policies, not the entire Dim Party. One of us is the lamebrain here, and it ain’t me.
=> “Paul was saying he is the only one in BOTH parties to understand the prejudice of the judicial system!”
Oh, really?? So he and the other four candidates on the debate stage constitute or somehow represent the Repub Party and its policies? Hahaha. That’s kind of a stretch, dodo. This is a great example of how you Paulists sanitize everything Perfect Paul says or does. Like the Obamanots, you will excuse any wrongdoings or statements that reveal his true snaky nature. baa baa, Paul sheeple.
Furthermore, your statement that RP is “the only one in BOTH parties to understand the prejudice of the judicial system” (followed by an exclamation point), besides being a lie and demagoguery at its worst, is a passionate elevation of your political cult leader to a demigod status. It sounds eerily fascist. Disgusting.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:33pmPatrick Henry – Good comment!
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:09pm@Kryptonite… You’re a waste of my time. Please, continue to call me a cultists, paulbot, dodo, or whatever you wish. It doesnt phase me. You will never see outside of the false left-right paradigm. If i am a sheeple then Jesus Chirst is my Shepard.
Ron Paul for President of the United States in 2012!
Report Post »jm
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:23pmIt is not about Dr Paul; it is about liberty. Your gotcha remarks are not really as clever as you might think.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:26pm1) Kryptonite – You never answered Freedomlover’s question and instead evaded and brought up your own topic. I found the charge that no one is closer to Obama than Paul atrocious, especially when you said your first choice for a candidate was Paul Ryan. My dream team for this election would be Rand and Ryan. Both of those Paul’s would be fantastic and thrash Obama. But, the powers that be would be terrified of that team too, because they stand firmly behind the principles of Ron Paul. The only major difference between the three is DELIVERY.
You don‘t like Paul’s delivery, his at-times sniveled voice, short stature? Neither do I sometimes either. He has huge ideas, way bigger than ‘Big Idea Newt’ and he should be comfortable with them. So should you, pay attention. I’m tired of arguing with you and other people on this site who persistently and with direct volition ignore facts and truth.
I’m going to tell you why it is the candidate that you would pick – Newt, Romney, Santorum – is a Neo-Con. I don’t think you are a neo-con, as I think you’ve probably followed a trail with your nose to the ground, enticed by a smell you unfortunately, think is appealing. I’m also going to tell you why your candidate is far closer to being just like Obama than Paul. (Cont.)
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:27pm2) The Living Constitution is a concept, so say some institutions. I consider it an anti-concept as it employs ill-logic to make psycho-babble and general nonsense pass off as a theory of governing as one desires. An equivocation should never be used in explaining the nature of the United States Constitution. It is not a Living Breathing D o c u m e n t in any sense. It has no pulse. It does not have a temperature above that besides the room within which it resides. The words with which it is penned are memorialized, copied, spread in as concrete a version as it was the first time it was written. It has not lived and breathed into a different wording; it is only amended to or possibly exchanged in a Constitutional Congress of States.
Who are proponents of a Living and Breathing Constitution? Those that think their personal values should be injected into the constitution. (Cont.)
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:28pm3) Do you think it’s proper to change the constitution to fit the times? You’d agree with Barak Obama. Do you think it’s proper to ignore what the constitution says and break it without formally recognizing the constitution is being set aside? You’d agree with the bankers that set up the Federal Reserve Act. Do you think it’s proper to ignore the constitution and allow United States forces to engage in war without the consent of Congress? You’d agree with Clinton, Nixon, George Bush 1 & 2, Obama, LBJ, Wilson, Gingrich and a whole host of unconstitutional slime balls throughout history that illegally engaged in warfare.
What these type of people are, Philosophically, are Pragmatists. Pragmatists have a stranglehold at one of the most ‘prestigious’ of universities in the country – UC Berkeley – and people wonder why that University is so ‘liberal’? An institution will follow it’s leaders and Philosophers always illuminate the path for all intellectual endeavors.
Politically, Pragmatists are variously – Liberals, Social-Conservatives, Neo-Conservatives and Progressives. True democrats that still hold to classic liberal ideas in some ways are not Pragmatists, just as Libertarians, Constitutionalists and Conservatives are not. (Cont.)
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:30pm4) Do you think the Constitution can ‘live and breath’ its way from saying ‘Only Congress can declare war’ to somehow silently meaning ‘The president by his own authority can declare war whenever he/she wants’? Answer the question honestly before you mouth off.
I can ask many other more similar questions that would completely erode the fragile position from which you declare Ron Paul is closer to Obama than any other candidate. But, I already have with that one question. The IRS, our involvment in Iraq, The U.N., the Middle East, The Federal Reserve, all of the 900 bases we have in all the nations of the world, the Income Tax, Roe V. Wade, Judicial Activist decisions, Constitutional Marriage amendment nonsense, etc., all stem from politicians and activists whether consciously or not, that shredded the Constitution penned centuries ago by our forefathers, with distinct and absolute meaning, for a Constitution that means what *they* say it means.
That’s called breaking the law.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 6:13amthe crazy old coot is toast-he blew it in IA, blew it in NH, blew it in SC, is going to blow it in FL…
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 3:05pm@ kryptonite
Report Post »The republican party which use to be made up of mostly liberaltarians and conservatives are not that way any more and pretty much are divided, Ron Paul has little to nothing to deal with the division of the republican party not that I am a supporter of Ron Paul or the republicans.
kryptonite
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:27pm@A Conservatarian
1) Freedomluver. I have answered his/her post before. Besides, you the sheeple (as opposed to the RP neo-libs) are missing the forest for the trees.
2) I like Rand — for now. However, genes always have the last word, so who knows.
3) You are a Pharisee, in the likeness of your cult leader. There you are lecturing me on how the Constitution is carved in stone. So were the Ten Commandments. The Pharisees quoted the letter of the Law verbatim at Jesus. Like you and that moral anarchist you revere, they rejected the Lord of the Sabbath in their self-righteous arrogance. “The letter kills; it is the spirit that gives life.” And let me be clear, I am not talking about judicial activism. I mean, GOD. Yes, GOD. The Constitution was meant to be LIVED by God-fearing who followed its precepts WHILE IN SUBMISSION TO HIS SPIRIT. That’s why, even though the Framers had decided to exclude term limits, in the early days of our Republic Congress members VOLUNTARILY exercised term limits. There you have a clear example of the difference between following the spirit of the Constitution and being a RP-type Constitutional Pharisee. The Dim radicals are different. They distort the Constitution like the devil twists the Scriptures. Ultimately, though, you tell me, who was the Pharisee closer to, God or the devil? (CONT.)
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:28pm@A Conservatarian
Your problem is that you cannot discern that RP is a morally corrupt man. I have given proof of this in my comments, but you blindly rationalize it all, because you are captivated by the “Constitution” hook he casts in to ensnare people like you — just like he used the race card and class warfare to attract neo-libs in NH.
4) I gather you are aware that another reason why the Framers decided against including term limits was that the life expectancy at the time was ~37 yrs. Ted Kennedy served in Congress almost half a century (47 yrs.). Do you think there is ANY way term limits will be ratified, given the current level of corruption? I brought this up, because RP and his sheeple stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the times we are living in. The man is so full of darkness, he keeps saying this and that has to be left to the states, when we know that blue states are fully radicalized. Consequently, RP never has and never will get anything done.
One last thing, RP never stepped down VOLUNTARILY. He advocates for term limits, but he’s a Pharisee who doesn’t walk the talk. Oh, I know his excuse. It’s the same age-old BS dictators and corrupt legislators use for clinging to their power. And now we’ve got to put up with him running for president — for the THIRD time — so spare me the RP doctrine.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:46pmCorrection: “by God-fearing people who followed its precepts…”
Report Post »Jackie Rogers, Jr.
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:45pmRon Paul looks like an aged Stan Laurel. If all this doesn’t work out for him and Gingrich maybe they could get together next year and come up with a Laurel and Hardy tribute act.
Report Post »Maybe do skits. Like, Paul convinces Gingrich to travel with him to Iran to attempt a rapprochement with the mullahs. As they’re about to be beheaded for turpitude, (all Newt’s fault), Gingrich disgustedly says to Paul, “well doctor, here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into”. At which point Paul turns to the audience with a blubbering expression on his face. Curtain lowers.
Take it on the road for a few months, then maybe Broadway. Probably win a Tony. Four years later, BOOM, one of them’s in the White House
Sort of like campaigning but the food’s better.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:00pmClowns to the left of me, Jokers to the Right.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:05pmNo, he looks more like this;
Report Post »https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+paul+bearer+ii&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-4QbT7OBFcfqtgfhtbilCw&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQsAQ&biw=1215&bih=805
RDG013
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:12pmSorry, but a better Ron Paul lookalike would my Ralph Furley from Threes Company. Heck, he even has the same mannerisms and speech patterns!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:43am@PROBLEMSOLVER So you’ve heard that song too huh? lol
Report Post »fidel1234
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:51am15 trillion and counting and you make light of Ron Paul,we should be lucky that We The People actually got one on our side,but you establishmentbots keep electing the party mainstays and see how much worse it can get.
Report Post »eagledown
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:53pmI know this is childish of me, but I can’t resist. No, he looks and has a CULT of personality like………….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:27pmHas the voice and expressions of a caricature of himself. In his defense, he did recently say that he knew he needed to work on his delivery.
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:42pmYawn, apparently there are a few posters on here who aren’t exactly qualified to vote. (I’ll put it THAT way). Unfortunately, they are now being hauled off into some room and being beaten for NOT sounding/typing “American” enough. {shakes head} This is where Paul loses me, I don’t think he realizes that there are people out there that wish us dead – just because we ARE.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:04pmHave you ever met in person a single one of those people? How do you know they exist? Because someone told you so? Someone who might make some money on war, perhaps?
Report Post »rpercifield
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:24pm@Postman,
Have I met Chairman Mao? No. Have I met Stalin? No. Have I met the Unibomber? No. So by your paulbot reasoning the people they killed did not die, nor did or do these evil people exist. It is time for you to start breathing oxygen instead of methane, open your eyes, and stop parroting the paulbot line. Otherwise, you will only be a mind numbed robot, following a meandering mad cow for the rest of your life.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:26pmBoogie Man Politics…
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:25am@THEPSOTMAN,
Report Post »I have met people like that. Who want us dead. I have also met Americans like that too, last tuesday to be precise yuck. A popular American who may fit into that catagory would be Bill Ayres.
LibertarianRight
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:06amPeople don’t want to kill others just because they exist (excepting some few sociopaths in every society). So you expect us to just give up our rights because someone might, if they were able, attempt to kill a few Americans? Keep in mind that, even including 9/11, it is more likely you will slip in the shower and die in 2012 than be killed by a terrorist this year – of any type.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:50am@KANGEROOJACK You think that Ron Paul’s foriegn policy is nuts? Have you ever thought that his foreign policy might just be the only one that is not nuts? His is the most sound of them all.
Report Post »http://americanvisionnews.com/1052/ron-paul-knows-nothing-about-foreign-policy-video
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:08amPATRICK HENRY. Funny you mention Bill Ayers. You DO know that the Ron Paul Revolution sounds a lot like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn‘s Weather Underground mantra for the 60’s generation in many ways… campus based and very, very anti-war.
Disillusioned young people, brainwashed with illegal mind-altering drugs and armed with weapons in the name of “liberty,” are being taught to hate their government and the police. They believe Ron Paul is their savior.
Remember that communist terrorist Dohrn had said, “We fight in many ways. Dope is one of our weapons. The laws against marijuana mean that millions of us are outlaws long before we actually split. Guns and grass are united in the youth underground.”
The same attitude is apparent in some of the libertarian-anarchist groups backing Paul. It was VERY apparent in New Hampshire.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:24am@TIME@ENDTHE PAUL CAMPAIGN!2…It’s not just the young college kids End..it is older people also The older folks see that we are throwing good money after bad funding this drug trade and incarcerating repeat nonviolent offenders..and they also are tired of the Industrial Complex Wars and War Mongering and sending Foreign Aide.to other countries when we are 15 tillion in the hole..There are those who refuse to be brainwashed sheeple any longer..I know a retired General from World War 11 who wants a Constitutionalist..my mom wants a Constitutionalist..the President of World Ministries says that he doesn’t even know if this country can be turned around..and he supports a Constitutionalist.. it is our only hope..so forget the Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers..that is what got us where we are today..They committted terrrorist crimes..that’s not anti-war. We want a soverign nation and we cannot have a sound military if we can’ balance the budget. getting us out of debt is the only way we can protect ourselves militarily..We are tired of our tax dollars going to support everyone but us.. These kids know what is at stake and it’s upon their back..Dorn and Ayers didn’t face that..Wake up!! Lots more than just he kids feel that way.
Report Post »fidel1234
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:32amTypical talk from a warmonger,we are in danger now because of our meddling and exposing our people to danger.You a rep. for the military industrial complex?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:47amAll I see is Democratic Party Talking points ASHES and FIDEL. Fidel? Hmmmm. Ron Paul likes Cuba. Do some research on Ron Paul and Cuba. You’d be amazed at how wrong he is on that subject too. FIDEL? Hmmmmm.
ASHES. The Ron Paul Revolution has a lot in common with a lot that’s been bad in America. You think it’s a s simple as economics? You need to wake up, not me.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:50amANYONE???
Please tell me where Dr Pauls foriegn policy is wrong…USING THE CONSTITUTION!!
ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8
The Congress shall have Power:
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress….
Where does it say the PRESIDENT has any power to declare a war, send in drones, to nation build or to assasinate anyone anywhere that we as a Nation do not like? If you say Ron Pauls foriegn policy is nutty or dangerous then you are ignorant in Constitutional law
Restore LIBERTY and FREEDOM…
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:29amHey BADDOGGY. I’ll trade you 3 beaver pelts and a jug of grog for some beads and a blanket. I‘ll throw the grog in for free if you’ve got an extra coon skin cap.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:58am@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Tell us, what does it feel like to be reduced to basically saying the founding fathers views are outdated?
Gee, that’s the EXACT same nonsense the left uses when true conservatives are defending he constitution.
How does it feel to be forced to admit that your views on foreign policy are much closer to Obama’s, the Democrats, and the CFR, than they are to Jefferson, Washington, and Adams?
Enjoy your NWO Boggie Man that is being used to destroy the Bill of Rights, and when Big Brother strip searches you for no reason…remember your voted for it.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 10:00am@Time to end…If you will read the Constitution…I will go for the deal. But you are a Commie, so I am sure you cannt do that..It would burn out your eyes.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 10:24amRon Paul is an inside the beltway career politician and a hypocrate. The games Ron Paul played with earmarks alone makes him a running joke. Ron Paul and the Constitution? Meh.
Report Post »blaze7c
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:27amtime to end,
Report Post »Tell us all of what your version of freedom is.
jb.kibs
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:40pmdude, people do NOT wish us dead because we are who we are, they wish us dead because of what we have been doing since the 50′s…
If your theory was true. ALL nations would be in trouble, not just America… what of Italy? Spain? Mexico? Canada? England? Ireland? Scotland? Iceland? Australlia? i can go on and on all day…
how much worry is Switzerland in of being bombed?
fact is, we are TOLD that people want to attack us, and we believe it without seeing it. 1 attack does NOT equal their country wants to attack us…
Report Post »it means, the few people that attacked us want to attack us… wake up son…
Just because some crazies from Texas go and blow up a building in another country does not mean America wants to go blow up that other country… seriously, you can’t even fathom that? do you know what propaganda is? do you know that the Germans and Russians learned propaganda from America? look it up.
enzomedici
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:05pmThat is where you are mistaken. They don’t want you dead because you exist. They want you dead because for the past 50 years during the cold war with Russia, the US has meddled in the Middle East constantly. The US invaded Iraq twice, Afghanistan once, we supported Saddam Hussein in his war with Iran. We supported the 1953 coup in Iran that installed the Shah of Iran in the first place. We also supported the Mujahadeen & the Taliban in their war against Russia. We supported the military dictatorship in Pakistan. We supported the corrupt regimes of Mubarak in Egypt & the Royal Family in Saudi Arabia. We prop up the sheiks with our troops in Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, & Saudi Arabia. In 1983 our marines were bombed in Lebanon where we had no business being in the first place. Our actions and constant meddling are what is driving Muslims to oppose the west and our values. Bin Laden said this himself. Read Bin Laden’s Declaration of War on America. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html
Report Post »JDF10487
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:42pmThe Washington Post Reports…
Georgia judge orders Obama to appear in court for hearing on attempt to keep him off ballot
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/georgia-judge-orders-obama-to-appear-in-court-for-hearing-on-attempt-to-keep-him-off-ballot/2012/01/20/gIQAsayeEQ_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:47pmThe Marxist POS will ignore that judge.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:28amHe will not win Georgia in the general election anyway. ……I wonder if the press will be able to keep this on the down low?
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:59amI’m glad that these attempts are being made. Even if Georgia is a “sure win” for any Republican nominee, if Der Obamasar is kept off the ballot, it would only help Republicans running for state and local offices.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:34pm@ashestoashes, you Paulies are so mean spirited and just plain mean for that matter. I gave up trying to have a dialog with you all until tonight, when I found one Paulie that was willing to have a civil discourse without the name calling. It was refreshing. He/she even got me to agree to watch some pro-Paul videos about his foreign policy. Then you come along and call someone a communist because they do not agree with you. Now I remember why I won’t listen to you guys. I will keep my word and watch the pro-Paul videos, but even if I was turned around and thought Paul was the guy, you Paulies ruined it for me and the rest of us.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:40pmWell stated, SHASTA. I too, have had a good, running dialogue with a Paul supporter. But most are like rabid animals and uninteresting.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:06pmThat is about where I stand too Shasta. I call this election year “3 RINOs and a fruitcake.” I will most likely vote for the fruitcake simply on principle that the others are progressives.
Then I will vote for whoever wins the nomination. Paul’s supporters did him no favors, if they had been less mean and rabid maybe they could have made a case for him and maybe he would have had a chance. An outside chance…But the way I see it his stupid supporters doomed him.
Opinion? Yeah…Just my opinion, for what it is worth.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:29pmSHASTA..I replied to you above.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:30pmIt’s funny you say that, because I was noticing how rabid and vile the Paul haters have been. Now run along and go BOO the Golden Rule.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:35pm@TROLL TRAINER You basically said that Paul was the best out of the four..and I would assume you said this on account that he is the only one who has a plan to get us out of debt..bring our military home and get the foriegn theocracies out of our government. But with what all Dr Paul has going for him..like the Constitution..and you say us Paulies are what will lose it for him? What does that say about the mentality of voters? Does it say that because they hate Ron Paul supporters that they are willing to let the country be destroyed? Seems so..Good logic..That is about the mentality that I would expect.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:05amAre you kidding me Ashes? You want to talk about the mentality of the voters? My God, just a cursory read through the comments in just the main candidate threads tonight speaks volumes! Very few are smart enough to even recognize what any of the candidates represent. Paul is a bleeding nut, his foreign policy is as foolish as it comes. The only reason I would even consider him is because congress would reign him in. I believe he is the only one with the integrity to do what needs done in giving congress back its power. I believe the way this system should work that the president can be the visionary. I also support Paul’s domestic ideals. He is the only one who could bring about real change, the rest are just business as usual.
But here is something that may surprise you. The VAST majority of Americans WANT business as usual. Any drastic change, whether it be Obama‘s vision or Paul’s, will be fought tooth and nail. It has always been the pendulum principle and regardless of one’s ideals the best place to run the country from is the middle. Maybe the middle needs to be moved back right, but you are the extreme right of the swing. Is that bad? No. But you need to recognize that YOU and I are on the fringe.
Did the pault-a-r-d-s ruin his chances? Probably not. He would never get over 20% anyway. But look how you treated people in just this forum. Calling them neocons and communists and pointing out how stupid they are, questioning their patriotism.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:09amcont,
Lord, do you realize the number of votes you could have won had you laid out Paul’s arguments and rationally addressed the criticisms?
Yeah, there is no doubt in my mind that the notorious zealous of Paul’s supporters cost him many votes. Again, he would not have won anyway, but maybe more people would have woken up and become active libertarians for future elections. Instead you acted like brain-dead Obama “hope and change” zombies. There is not much difference between the average Paul supporter and an OWS idiot. Yeah, you hurt him.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:29am@TROLLTRAINER You say you don’t like Pauls foriegn policy..I gather you haven’t seen this video on Pauls foreign policy.
Report Post »http://americanvisionnews.com/1052/ron-paul-knows-nothing-about-foreign-policy-video
Glenn himself said that he would much rather Paul won than Newt..and it is hard to believe that anyone would listen to Newt without checking out his whole voting record and what he has supported..Here’s Glenn supporting Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyx9tw0TEPM
LadyLovesLiberty
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:40amFirst time in chiming in, though I’ve been a blaze reader since it was started….
I’m a Pauladian, and I‘m sorry for the tone that you’ve encountered. The rEVOLution for me is mainly about LOVE and Liberty. Politics as normal is about ego and hate. Anyway, I’m happy to talk things thru with anyone and you know what I really LIKE about the Paul Revolution? Family members who I used to have (I admit) sarcastic attitudes toward (those who would have have had very different views than mine) I can now stand alongside. I’m .. TIRED… of being told and believing that “those” types of Americans are bad/stupid/evil and “my” kind is good. I’ve been deeply moved to my moral and philosophical core this election cycle – because I’ve been able to find a man but far more importantly a MESSAGE and a way of delivering that message that unites us (not all, but more than any other). It’s a big tent in the Pauladian camp- Love Liberty? Love this country? Love it’s founding? Come on in. This “you have two choices” version of rhetorical division continues to serve… the establishment, which continues to not serve this country and freedom. Anyway, howdy, and I’m down to civilly discuss Paul anytime.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:11amShasta – Oh be quiet. We never had your vote in the first place. Sorry that we care about our freedoms at home. Sorry that we disagree to having bases all around the world & foreign aid. Wait I’m not, your all selfish and don‘t realize Newt won’t get rid of the FED, He will appoint his own front. We are 15 trillion in debt. WAKE UP! War cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:25amASHESTOASHES said: “Does it say that because they hate Ron Paul supporters that they are willing to let the country be destroyed? Seems so..Good logic..That is about the mentality that I would expect…
That same logic of your’s can be directed at Paul supporters who would rather see Obama in office for another 4 years than vote for the eventual Republican nominee if it is not Ron Paul. I‘ve seen it repeated over and over again by Paul’s groupies here. Thousands upon thousands of pacifist and isolationist Paul supporters actually went and pulled the trigger for Obama in 2008. Paul also told his supporters to do a “vote-for-one-of-them” regarding 3rd Party candidates in 2008… including Cynthia McKinney.
Maybe Paul will have some sense this time around and stop being a rogue child and support the nominee of HIS supposed Party and not kill the chances of Rand in the future. We too have long memories…
Report Post »OHSundevil
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:46amSaying you won’t vote for Paul because of his supporters is utterly ridiculous. It’s a complete cop out. You are voting for the man that takes the office not the faceless public that speaks about him on the Internet. Do you still hold Paul responsible for that YouTube video about Huntsman as well? You’ll feel better about yourself and your life if you stand for real principles rather than listening to the wind blow when deciding on where you stand on issues. This isn‘t high school and you shouldn’t be worried about peer pressure anymore.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:20pm@SHASTA
Many Paul supporters have very civil discourse here on theblaze. Sure, there are many young supporters who don’t understand all of the positions, and probably even came from the Obama camp last time. That‘s one thing that’s difficult to discern. Many of the youth are anti-war and know they know their future is damned w/ the debt and theft of their earnings like social security, which they will never see. There are also many Paul supporters who have been Republicans for years and who are tired of the same old garbage B.S. from the GOP. I’m still a registered Republican and believe the ideas of the GOP are drastically better than the democrats, but unfortunately the GOP party is a bunch of hippocrites who have guys like Gingrich with terrible personal and congressional records. If you didn’t notice, Paul supporters are insulted 5 to 1 on forums, whether it’s being called Paulbots, kooks, anti-americans, 911/truthers (which i am not), potheads and the list goes on. I think the truth is that there isn’t much middle-ground any longer. We need to admit we live in a socialist society right now, and those furthering the socialist agenda will have us eventually at full-blown communism. The NDAA and the SOPA/PIPA acts destroy our civil liberties and free markets, and makes the government the master instead of the servant. Hope you had a good sunday and God Bless.
Report Post »Suchiazski
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:31pmAs Rand Paul said to non-Ron supporters in one of Frank Luntz’s focus groups, the American people don‘t have to agree with Ron Paul’s foreign policy to elect him, because his foreign policy propositions would have to pass Congress and the Senate. And since Ron Paul is a Consitutional Conservative, he wouldn’t bypass their decisions like Obama would and does.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:37pmObummer took an oath to follow and protect the constitution, look at where that got us.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:10pmTaking the oath as a senator for 2 years then getting the presidency compared to having a 30 year track record of upholding the constitution are two complete different things.
I know for a fact that Ron Paul would continue to uphold the constitution without doubt. He has shown that he can be trusted to do what he says he will do. Have any of the other candidate in the GOP earned, or even tried to earn, that level of trust from you? Do you really trust Newt, Romney or Santorum to defend the constitution with their records, both within politics and in their personal life?
Someones personal life is indicative of how they run their professional like. Do you think a salesman who cheats on his wife every day would go to work and suddenly be the most honest salesman in the world, giving everyone the best deal on his product?
Yea right. If he’s willing to screw over his wife, his family, why would you expect anything different with his interaction with complete strangers?
Report Post »Love_John_Galt
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:23amI can hardly bear to watch MSNBC/Maddow – but I’ve forced myself lately to see their take of the GOP elections. They are thrilled at the prospects of a Mitt/Newt candidate going against Obama. They continually run clips of Mitt and Newt’s own words that make Obama look like a saint. These clips are ready made campaign endorsements for Obama.
Ron Paul may not be the best ‘grandstander/actor’ but his principles run circles around Obama any day and his steady Constitutional record cannot be disputed by Obama.
Liberals, Independents, and Libertarians will NEVER vote for Mitt or Newt. Those, plus the ABO people, would vote for Ron Paul in the general. Republicans had better do the math or we’re in for another 4 years of Obama!
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 6:10amWRONG! the Senate has the Constitutional role to ratify treaties and confirm ambassadors….and only the Congress may declare war (like THAT provision has been strictly followed lately)…other than that, the President is pretty much on his own as far as foreign policy goes…i would think that Rand Paul, being the son of ‘Mr. Constitution’, would know that
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:16pmWOW! Beck the “liar” is posting a favorable article on the candidate who came in last… and the only one who has lost in all three states?? Granted, Paul finished SECOND in NH (a liberal state where Obama won in 2008).
There‘s your answer as to why Paulists hate Romney’s guts. Even in blue states, where Paul’s neo-liberal base of Obama malcontents and youthful idiots is stronger, he STILL loses to progressive Romney. Sucks to be a neo-lib.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:23pmasphinctersayswhat?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:25pmROFL at “neo-lib!” Wish I had read that months ago!
neo-lib…lol…
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:32pmLol neo-lib? You mean a classical liberal aka a libertarian? That’s the opposite of a neo-lib…
But hey keep on fighting the “CONVSERVATIVE VS LIBERAL” game. Keep on participating in the circus while the progressives dismantle this country. You’re just doing your part.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:42pmIt‘s the Global Elite’s MSM turning up the heat for those who are not on the web.
Report Post »Anyone who is not online, and gets their news and info from the newspapers and television are sheeple, who can be easily manipulated.
kryptonite
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:24pm@Psychosis et delusional friends
Ron Paul’s base of LIBERAL young supporters: anti-war, pro gay marriage and legalizing prostitution, druggies & supportive pals, truthers and the like.
Oh, I know he’s got some KKK, and delusional types voting for him too. Yeah. Thing is, you the deluded sheeple didn’t put him in second place in NH. Matter of fact, without those LIBERALS, Paul would have to drop out of the race. He needs them, ergo his neo-lib views, which the young have quickly grasped while they obviously keep eluding your bleating brains. The joke’s on you, sheeple.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:48pm@KRYPTONITE You and I had this conversation before..You legalize drugs..you take the money out of drugs..who loses out? Drug Cartels..Drug Lords..and the government furnishing weapons to Hezbollah…Guess what funds terrorism? Drugs do..and so have we been through TARP which bailed out Sharia Compliant Banks which give 2.5% of every investment to Islamic organizations. and they are fined 7% for every Sharia Law that they break.. The money that we would save on the revolving doors of prisons for drug users and prostitutes would go along way in paying for rehabs..education and health fields. As for legislating morality..what did Jesus do when they were stoning Mary Magdalene..did he join in and stone her also? Nope..he took her by the hand and said to the others..those of you who are without sin..cast the first stone.. I heard on K-Love Christian radio today where the churches are setting up rehabs…best left to churches..don’t you think?..I believe the churches would do better than prisons in helping the druggies, prostituties and gays..they need God more than they need to be locked up with others with the symptoms of not knowing God. You and I both know that Tribulation is probably near Kryptonite.. but it sure would be nice to at least be on the way to stopping this NWO from overtaking us..I vote the Constitution. I vote freedom of religion…I vote Ron Paul/
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:50pm@SychinLegacy
Report Post »But hey keep on fighting the “CONVSERVATIVE VS LIBERAL” game. Keep on participating in the circus while the progressives dismantle this country.
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You keep on calling anyone but Paul a progressive, while the COMMUNISTS destroy our Republic. Like I said on another thread, be a PROUD de facto Obama voter.
kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:29am@ASHES
“You legalize drugs..you take the money out of drugs…”
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NO!! If we legalized drugs, we’d become a narco state. Come on, Ashes, stop repeating the Paul doctrine and think for yourself. All it would do is make us competitors with countries like Mexico, Bolivia, Colombia, Jamaica, Kosovo and Afghanistan for the world market.
Do you realize you are supporting a man who has an infantile notion of the world? Ron Paul’s brain is fossilized and unable to apprehend present-day reality. This is 2012 and we live in a globalized world. And no, we never discussed this topic from an economic angle. I approached the subject from a Christian perspective, because I thought I might be able to reach your spirit, since your mind has been brainwashed by a political cult. But I guess I failed to reach even the innermost part of your being.
Hope Paul doesn’t destroy you, Ashes. There’s already a guy on this thread making paranoid statements about people wishing Ron Paul supporters dead. What’s next, mass suicide? Guess one could argue that re-electing Obama by abstention is a form of mass suicide.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:35am@Kryptonite: “Ron Paul’s base of LIBERAL young supporters”
Yeah…. I voted for McCain in November of 2008. Now you call me a liberal. (Actually, that makes sense – McCain is VERY liberal. Only by looking at what he has done in the Senate since have I realized that he would be no different from Obama.) Regardless, I won’t vote for Obama – but I won’t vote for a Progressive RINO, either, as that would be no different – continuing wars, growing government, and trampling of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
The way I see it, Ron Paul is the only actual conservative in the race. He’s the only one that believes in free markets instead of bailouts (Romney and Gingrich both supported TARP and the bailouts), government limited by the Constitution (Santorum wants to chuck this out and institute a pseudo-theocracy), and national sovereignty for ALL nations (not just the US). Guess that makes him (and me) a nut, for some reason.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:40am@Kryptonite: “If we legalized drugs, we’d become a narco state.”
That is the most inane thing I have ever heard. I take it, then, that you believe the United States WAS a narco-state until the early 20th century. Some of our Founder’s actually grew marijuana on their plantations! Legalizing drugs won’t make us a narco-state any more than legalizing alcohol after Prohibition made us an “alco-state”.
Legalization only does a few things:
1) it prevents criminals from profiting on the black market
Report Post »2) it lets respectable businessmen take those profits instead
3) it reduces the incentive to use them by getting rid of the “rebel” aspect of doing something illegal
4) it stops the government from trampling all over the Bill of Rights to enforce Prohibition (which, for the drug alcohol, required a Constitutional Amendment to be legal)
ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:00am@KRYPTONITE..Hi Kryptonite..yes we did have this conversation before and I was speaking of the monetary aspects and you told me that I was speaking from the flesh..remember? Then I was totally despodent saying that Tribulation was probalbly near and you agreed. Deep down in my heart I ddn’t want drugs or prostitution legalized..and then I started thinking about what Jesus would do..Jesus wasn’t self righteous..but I was. I was judging them and wanted them imprisoned. Even Dr Paul (if I remember correctly ) had reservations about it..but yesterday I heard K-Love talking about how churches had opened rehab centers..Just think Kryptonite..taking drugs and prostitution are a symptom of a much bigger problem..and that problem is not knowing God and His Son Jesus..That is why the world is as it is..We need the freedom to work..if we keep voting in these Progressives..toward Communism…we will lose all of our freedoms..We need the Constitution Kryptonite..this may be our last chance in history..I’m betting it is.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:42amLibertarianRight
That is the most inane thing I have ever heard. I take it, then, that you believe the United States WAS a narco-state until the early 20th century.
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No, dodo. This is 2012, when drug trafficking is one of the worst WORLD scourges. Your analogy to alcohol is incorrect. Alcohol is not illegal in most parts of the world, except for some Muslim countries, where trafficking brings in a lot of money as well. Drugs, however, ****ARE**** illegal in most of the world and WILL REMAIN SO, even if we legalized drugs. Thus, drug trafficking would skyrocket.
Now to Ron Paul’s neo-lib moral anarchism. Here are the facts:
=> “In 1880, many drugs, including opium and cocaine, were legal — and, like some drugs today, seen as benign medicine not requiring a doctor’s care and oversight. Addiction skyrocketed. There were over 400,000 opium addicts in the U.S. That is twice as many per capita as there are today. By 1900, about one American in 200 was either a cocaine or opium addict.”
Among the reforms of this era was the Federal Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, which required manufacturers of patent medicines to reveal the contents of the drugs they sold. In this way, Americans learned which of their medicines contained heavy doses of cocaine and opiates — drugs they had now learned to avoid.” (CONT.)
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:57am@LibertarianRight (CONT.)
Specific federal drug legislation and oversight began with the 1914 Harrison Act, the first broad anti-drug law in the United States. Enforcement of this law contributed to a significant decline in narcotic addiction in the United States… Many addicts, faced with disappearing supplies, were forced to give up their drug habits.
By 1979, after 11 states decriminalized marijuana and the Carter administration had considered federal decriminalization, marijuana use shot up among teenagers. That year, almost 51 percent of 12th graders reported they used marijuana in the last 12 months. By 1992, with tougher laws and increased attention to the risks of drug abuse, that figure had been reduced to 22 percent, A 57 PERCENT DECLINE. (emphasis added).”
http://www.justice.gov/dea/demand/speakout/06so.htm
=> “The head of Holland’s best-known drug abuse rehabilitation center has described what the new drug culture has created: The strong form of marijuana that most of the young people smoke, he says, produces “a chronically passive individual—someone who is lazy, who doesn’t want to take initiatives, doesn’t want to be active—the kid who’d prefer to lie in bed with a joint in the morning rather than getting up and doing something.”
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kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:10pm@LibertarianRight
When taken in moderation, alcohol is not a problem. However, according to the WHO, binge drinking and intoxication among adolescents and young adults has increased significantly on a global scale. Drugs are highly addictive and most require increasingly larger doses to produce the same effect. Do you want to compound the current problem a millionfold by legalizing drugs?
Ron Paul is no “Constitutionalist.” He is a fringe libertarian who believes in moral anarchism. In case you didn’t know, anarchism has its origins in communism, and the young neo-liberals who support Ron Paul in large numbers are moral anarchists as well. You bet they are all for abolishing the Dept. of Education — so they don’t have to pay their student loans. You sheeple are in bad company, and you don’t even know it. You poor deluded souls.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:58pm@ASHES.
I was judging them and wanted them imprisoned.
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You are confusing two issues. I don’t want drug addicts imprisoned. I want them to find Jesus or go to rehab, and be free of drug addiction so they can lead productive lives.
If we legalize drugs, drug addiction will explode, especially among young children, who are the most vulnerable sector of the population. Read my above posts and reconsider Paul’s agenda. It is not godly, ASHES. Why can’t you discern such an obvious push towards moral degradation?
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:15pmThe result of this primary shows, quite clearly, that the citizens of South Carolina that are politically active would rather we “protect” Israel and extend our influence all over the globe than worry about our monetary and fiscal problems in our own nation’s government. And as a result, we will – should they get their way, and Romney/Gingrich/Santorum wins the nomination – have the American Empire end up just like the Roman Empire in just a couple more decades.
Today was a great day for Progressives – not so much for Constitutionalists.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:25pmI think you’re a little to optimistic on surviving twenty years because depression 2.0 starts this year and not to long after that the republic will fail.These neocons will gleefully participate in their own demise but sadly the rest of us rational people will suffer as a result of their lust for progressives dressed in conservatives clothing.
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:33pmUhh where in the constitution does it say it is our job to protect Israel? I didn‘t realize we took ownership of it and now it’s OUR responsibility to guard it.
You know sometimes I think the neocons care more about Israel than they do our own country.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 6:14amit was a REALLY bad day for the Tinfoil Hat Brigade, that’s for sure!
Report Post »DISTILLER
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:09pmSantorum is the only one who can turn this country around. Are you people idiots or what? Barry will destroy any of those other losers.
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:13pmAnybody is better
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:12pmWhat is Santorum’s plan to turn this country around? Our debt is the greatest national security threat we face and Santorum has zero plan to cut spending or to address the federal reserve. I believe the reason for this is because if we balance the budget and go back to some sort of gold standard, that would tie his hands to fight more wars. So, in the interest of fighting wars, Romney, Gingrich and Santorum would all bankrupt our own country so that eventually we won’t be able to afford to defend ourselves against a real threat. Ron Paul’s foreign policy is dangerous? Yah right, the monetary policy of every other candidate, including Obama, is what is dangerous.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:31pmSantorum also wants to up the amount of money people get for each kid. How does he plan on paying for this?
You will all get your way.
You’ll get some big government guy that promises delusions of grandeur, then our money will go to crap and everything you’ve been promised will disappear in one swoop.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:04pmThe GOP is McCaining itself again, maybe that’s by design. There is an enormouamount of momentum for Dr. Paul’s message of limited government, decreased spending, non-intervention, stat’s rights, sound money, and a return to the Constitution. Those who were so worried about “manipulation” of the polling data actually showed their hand early on with the Iowa caucus. Other than apportioning delegates, SC’s results are largely irrelevant. Dr. Paul is in til the end. This isn’t about the man, it’s about the message (that message is liberty, btw.) Hate on haters.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:09pmAnd Dr Ron put out a very nice racist newsletter with a message of hate…….less you forget
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:23amTalking about hate and newsletters. The nexus of the far right and the far left has always been a dangerous place where extremists of all kinds, including racists and anti-Semites, linger. So it’s no surprise that Paul has pandered to these groups with his newsletters as well as his isolationism and conspiracy theories about 9/11, Paul’s politics of destruction are part of a long-failed tradition of populist extremism that has little appeal to most Republicans or mainstream America.
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 10:31amWrong – Ron FRAUD Paul is in it to the end for nothing more than his ego.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:02pmIt doesn’t matter what kind of foreign policy you want to have, you cant do it on someone else’s dime forever.
Report Post »We put our financial house in order now or we go down the tubes.
SychinLegacy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:06pmThis makes too much sense for the neocons to wrap their heads around.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:16pm@SychinLegacy That‘s right it won’t register with them,when the depression starts we won’t be able to have all the wars the kooks want to keep us in.
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:21pmYou’d think Glenn Beck of all people would understand this….he has to know full well that Romney and Santorum will do nothing to actually cut spending and address the federal reserve, but somehow he likes both better than Ron Paul, who would do exactly what this country needs to have done. Beck will accept a big spending progressive over a constitutionalist as long as the progressive believes in militarism. Thought Beck hated Woodrow Wilson…guess not.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:32pmMost people don’t realize that every government program is threatened by a weak currency.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:22pmNicest one liner of truth I’ve seen in a while. Maybe the truth lives in the forums, but not on GBTV.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:02pmRon Paul and Mitt Romney are the only one’s that can go face to face with Obama. If you people honestly think Paul should drop out even though 3 different candidates won in 3 states. lol. Also Rick and Newt aren’t on a couple states ballots. Paul has major support down the road. If he stays in, it’s going to look good for him. I never expected him to win SC, because it’s one of the biggest war mongering states in the country. Why do you think Paul didn’t spend much there and might skip FL. Because it’s not important. Plus SC newts home state. But don’t you tell me that Paul supporters need to dissapear because you need us to win presidency.
Report Post »TheKnob
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:09pmI like Ron Paul and think he has the right ideas but I don’t believe he will get the nomination. I believe he WILL be heard though and the party will also hear from Sarah Palin. Not sure who the nominee will be but there is still time for some surprises. Liberty and freedom will ring true this time around I believe!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:14pmYou forget that the only reason why Romney stands a chance against Obama is because he is just like him. Romney is a big gov’t progressive. Paul is a limited gov’t Conservative on par with the likes of Barry Goldwater. You can either have a race with two Obamas, or you can have competing ideologies. Personally, I prefer choice; and if it comes down to Romney or Obama, it doesn‘t matter who wins to me because this nation will cease to exist as the first and last hope for a republican form of gov’t that not only acknowledges but guarantees and protects the citizens’ inalienable natural rights.
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:16pmNewt would kick butt in a debate.
As log as the asked the other questions first.
They wont. The other will just agree.
Ask Hillary!
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:46pmSgtB – Oh I agree. Romney nor Obama will get my vote. And Newt can debate but he can’t win all these states. His character is just awful.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:01pmGeorgia, is Newt’s “home state” not South Carolina.
Report Post »joan k
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:24amI agree…. We have 3 progressives running against Ron Paul.
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 10:35amLet me see…. Which of those three states did FRAUD Paul win? What a guy.
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 11:10amThe biggest problem with Ron Paul are his supporters. I’ve read the same cut and paste talking points for months now. Or the splattering of Ron Paul 2012 in everyones face as though just reading the bumper sticker will lure people into his corner. I would vote Ron Paul if all else failed. ABO. But if anyone doesn’t like Ron Paul for any reason…….Ron Paulbots call them NeoCons, warmongers….yeda yeda yeda. So unfortunately for Ron Paul…….his college age followers and Alex Jones cult members who know everything about everything at their age, haven’t learned about Civil Discourse so they call everyone who disagrees vile names they all uniquely use (which immediately identifies them) which gives Ron Paul zero chance of getting the nomination. ASHESTOASHES and BADDOGGY are prime examples of the loons that spew so much crap that whoever they support is taken off of REASONABLE Free Thinking conservatives list. Sometimes its better to keep your loony opinions to yourself for the sake of your candidate.
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UBETHECHANGE
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:01pmThe pundits on FOX just said the GOP establishment will do everything in their power to bring down Newt so he’s not the candidate. More reason to vote for Newt!
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:18pmThe GOP establishment will do it to trick you. They pick one candidate to go “this is our guy” (Romney). Then they pick another guy that’s almost exactly the same (Gingrich) but seems to be getting support, to “tear down” and draw your attention to the “guy they don’t want”. The ACTUAL guy the establishment doesn’t want is the one they IGNORE – in this election, it is Dr. Paul. (In 1980, it was the also “unelectable” Ronald Reagan – a mere B-movie actor.)
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:36pm“If we lose to Obama it will be because of the Paul zombie thugs and Independents.
You sound like Obama blaming Bush. Take some responsibility for yourselves. If you want to win the Independents and Libertarians then don’t try to scare us with Boogie Man politics, progressive Candidates, Flip floppers, and “Santorum”.
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 1:11amfear the vest…run far…run fast. i think people can have morals without using religion to get elected. if santorum or romney were atheist or agnostic would you (and you know who you are) support him. being a conservative does not mean that you are a right wing religious zealot gun toting bible thumper. geez!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 6:36am@AXELPHNTOM…I am in no way justifying the actions of doing such a thing..I am saying that I don’t necessarily believe what they are saying..If they would go to the links that they have to discredit Dr Paul..then why would I believe that their accusations are legitimate..even if this stuff is posted to their facebook..then how would you know that they themselves didn’t post it..or for that matter if it was not posted..that they would not lie? I just doubt them because they obviously have an agenda.. I would never support someone threatening anyone else..but I also don’t support what these people were doing to Dr Paul/.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:09pm“They obviously have an agenda” and supporters of Dr. Paul do not? When you see a call to violence rather than a discussion of ideas, call them out, even when it is coming from someone who is supporting “your guy” or else you are as guilty as anyone for destroying the restoration of Constitutional principles to this Country.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:00pmI like Ron Paul and his ideas on fiscal responsibility. Some of his supporters however, who are against being militaristic, are very violent at times and remind me of the OWS crowd.
Report Post »http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ron-paul-supporters-threaten-atlanta-family-with-rape-death
UBETHECHANGE
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:06pmRon Paul would make a great U.S. Treasury secretary. If we lose to Obama it will be because of the Paul zombie thugs and Independents. We must unite and stand behind whoever the R nominee is.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:13pm@UBETHECHANGE
Report Post »Abso-freaking-lutely correct!
tifosa
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:14pmRonPaul supporters are with OWSers holding the “End The Fed” signs.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:21pm@tifosa
Report Post »Am I correct to assume that you are Italian?
ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:25pmWho says Ron Paul supporters are violent at times? Where’s the proof? Anyone can get out there and say that they are Paul supporters and cause a rucous.. And anybody can say that they have been threatened by Paul supporters..that does not make it true..I will say however..that we are as passionate about saving this country as the ones who are passionate about destroying it..Flip sides of the coin..the ones in the middle are neither hot nor cold..they are just ignorant!!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:46pm@ashestoashes
Report Post »Read it and weep Ashes!
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ron-paul-supporters-threaten-atlanta-family-with-rape-death
ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:02pm@MONK that article proves my point rather well..they said to get dressed up in KKK garb complete woth hood and march around behind Paul and wait for photo opts.. see…they will stop at nothing trying to bash the doctors image. guess you didn‘t see the video where the black guy with the white wife couldn’t get anyone to help them being a bi-racial couple..this was quite some time back..doctor Paul was the only one who would come to their rescue..he delivered a still birth and when they received the hospital bill..it was marked paid in full… the people in the article you posted..a bunch of mean spirited pranksters doing mischief to Dr Paul..
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:18pm@ashestoashes
Report Post »Just because someone says something stupid it doesn’t give you the right the threaten them with bullets and rape. Isn’t Ron Paul the Constitution person that fights for freedom of speech and the 1st Amendment? Or is that right just saved for Ron Paul fans? Have you heard of a law called, “Simple Assault”?
AxelPhantom
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:24pmActually ashes, it is a far cry a comparison between a private joke of dressing up like a KKK member, a black panther member and threatening physical harm to a 4 year old child!
You are free to dress as you wish, however your liberty does not extend to physically harming someone else that is lowering a political candidate’s chance of being elected, no matter how passionate you are. By allowing people like this to remain as outspoken vocal supporters of your candidate and say nothing, you are as responsible for the destruction of this country as anyone else. Evil flourishes where good men do nothing. That you cannot see or aknowledge this proves Monk’s point. And again I weep for my Libertarian party.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:29pm@ashestoashes
Report Post »Just because someone says something stupid it doesn’t give you the right to threaten them with bullets and rape. Isn’t Ron Paul the Constitution person that fights for freedom of speech and the 1st Amendment? Or is that right just saved for Ron Paul fans? Have you heard of a law called, “Simple Assault”?
NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:41pmThat is DISGUSTING! And quite frankly more likely Ron Paul saboteurs that either love Obama or Santorum and are afraid of Ron’s message of freedom and Self Responsibility.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 12:00amOkay you guys..these people are obviously unethical..so I would not take them seriously if they are doing what they say they are..what would keep them from lying also.?. And who on the face of the earth would post their little child in public and involve themselves in mischieviousness like that..I doubt that they are the icons of truth.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:01amAshes,
I don’t do facebook in part because when you do it all the time you develop a false sense of privacy. It was a “joke” from the former Army Captain, a bad one, but then I have heard people suggest worse.
Please don’t try to justify (yet again) the violent threats in the response as they were uncalled for, and is precisely why many people will not vote for Paul. Show me your friends and I will show you your future. If you do not frequently denounce people like this,they will become what the general public thinks of whenever they hear the term “Constitutionalist” and you think there is no hope now? Wait until people unequivically will not talk or listen to anything that comes out of your mouths because of that one or two run ins they had with a loudmouth, disrespectful, in your face, insulting “Libertarian” who called them a neo-con and questioned their “conservatism”while telling them in the same breath that prostitution and heroine should be legalized; or yelled at them in all caps that they are a stupid sheeple who is responsible for the destruction of our country.
You are destoying the very thing you are trying to save. You want to change minds? Educate not prosthelotize and kick those who voice a threat to the well being of those who disagree with them to the curb.
signed – a proud Libertarian since 1988
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 7:29pm@THEMONK
I’m not OWS person, and I’ve been a Paul supporter for 4 years, as well as a registered Republican for 15 years. I am completely against the OWS movement 100% as it’s just a setup of anarchists/communists/atheists who show exactly why we do need “some government”. Go take a look at dailypaul.com if you want to see how many Paul supporters were against the OWS movement. There were plenty of Obama/Paul supporters who wanted more Paul people to get involved, and many of us thought it was a waste of time. The OWS people are primarily driven by hate and could care less about our constitution, bill of rights, etc. The one discerning thing you will learn is that real Paul supporters view policy through the lens of liberty and the constitution. The OWS movement is one viewed w/ collective rights (e.g. the 99% vs. 1%), which is 100% against the civil libertarian view of individualism.
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:00pmPaul will run as an Independent and SPLIT the vote.
4 more years!!!!
Well, we may have 2 years left. Hunker down folks. It’s gona be a wild ride.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:02pmDon’t you mean 1 year left?
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:07pmHe doesn’t even have to do a third party run. The Paulies have already said that if they don’t get their way, they will either do a massive write in for Paul, or sit the election out. Either approach gives 4 more years to Obummer. It is that ‘my way or the highway’ attitude that makes me say “screw these Paulies, and let the chips land where they may”.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:08pmi don’t believe he will run as an independent he is trying to win delegates and support in the Republican Party to advance his ideas in the party. the question is what will his supporters do? i myself do not see a senario where i would vote for romney or gingrich
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:11pmChris Christie basically let us know the he thinks President Obama wins a second term. He says that he’ll be ready to run by 2016.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:12pmI don’t care what the culty Paul people do; let ‘em have their tantrums. You cannot reason with the unreasonable.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:20pmTRON Aren’t you of the Media Cult” traitors to our country? Sold your soul to the devil have you? Bet ya have…
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:24pm@TRONINTHEMORNING
Report Post »“What something is.. is what it extends”
TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:26pmSo true, MONK,
@ASHES
Report Post »You lose that bet.
justangry
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:39pm@Tron, Did you happen to see me get hushed by Eddie this evening in live chat? Whenever I try to make a point on the different ways to interpret the constitution, I’m censored, or shhh’d, like this evening. It’s kind of hard to argue our point when we have one hand tied behind our backs. Aren’t you the least bit curious about what I have to say and why its taboo to talk about on a site that promotes “the truth has no agenda” and “question with boldness”?
Meh, anyway… haven‘t checked out your boy’s Levin’s books yet, but I will. I’ll keep an open mind if you will.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:44pmNo, JUSTANGRY, I did not knw you got squelched. Not a fan of being squelched; that is unfair and I don’t support it.
Yes indeed; my mind is open in many regards. I think you’ll like Levin.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:53pmTRONINTHEMORNING – What are you going to do when there is riots all over America. World WAR 3 & the Dollar crashing. Hope your ready for it.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:03pm@POLITICIANS..
I’m ready; and I’m not worried. Concerned, yes but I am comfortable in my faith and family which gives great strength daily.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:03pm@Tron, Fair enough. Check out this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Originalism. This is the subject that’s taboo on this site. (Then ask yourself why that is) See Beck looks in terms whether or not they’re progressive. I judge the candidates based on which theory they use to interpret the constitution. I mean you often hear RP supporters talk about how he sides with the constitution. Well that’s a half truth, because each of the candidates know the constitution. I think the people who say this aren’t aware of the different theories. (perhaps I’m wrong on that) At any rate, Paul would be in the Scalia/Thomas school of thought, while the rest would come down on the other.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:06pm@SHASTA You don’t get it..We are willing to let the chips fall where they may because any of your progressives will net the same results as another 4 years of the Muslim..So frankly my dear..we don’t give a damn.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:42pmThe way the Hater’s speak about him, I wouldn’t blame him one bit.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:04am@Shasta
Newt and Obama are two wings of the same bird.
There won’t be a lick of difference between the two, with the exception of the broken promises and lip service. Obummer Broke his Socialist Promises and Grinch will break his ‘Conservative” (excuse me while I ROFL) promises.
Another 4 years of The worst president in history might be the straw that breaks the Sheeples back.
They are Foes on Cspan but buddy-buddy behind the curtain.
Newt and Nancy in bed together… err couch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RQKNH_nwM4
Report Post »gdbhusker
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:11am@ MONK…… I have been reading your post’s on here for quite some time now..and you are full of it… you actually think Ron Paul is a racist?? what a loony idea….its funny to me that people dig stuff up all over..I mean really, we could fill a trash bag with stuff on the other three, and an entire dump with Obamas baggage, but you and people like you keep bringing up the ONE thing that was even fishy( disproven by the way) about Dr. Paul…do you wonder why it’s still all over the place?? because that is all the “dirt” they have ..and it is false.. so tell a lie enough and you will make it true….is that your persuasion? I am a 30 year conservative republican..and somewhere along the way my party got lost and integrated into progressivism….I do not identify with ANY republicans anymore.. look what my party has given us.. these are facts…. NDAA, Patriot act(written by biden, overwhelmingly pushed and passed by GOP) TSA, Homeland security, SOPA, 16 trillion in debt, and wars everywhere..I mean really? what party is this? we have become the most hated place on Earth and it’s not because we are rich and free..hell man look around you…nobody is free and we are friggen BROKE…so why do they hate us?? because we BOMB THE EVER LOVING PISS OUT OF WHOMEVER WE WANT FOR WHATEVER reason… we sent troops to U-FRIGGEN_GANDA?? seriously? we are either the new romans, or the new nazi’s I cannot figure which.. but it all leads to the same place….DOOM… I want my country
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:54pmIf by, “Long, Hard Slog”, Dr. Paul means a multi-stop coach airline flight back to his crumby house in Texas, then he’s absolutely correct.
Report Post »70mach
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 8:37amAnd that is why he is the best candidate!! 30 yrs in Congress and hes still in coach? I guess that means hes not a thief like the rest of them!!!!
Report Post »Babeuf
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 9:14pmNope he flies First Class
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/20120116_ap_paulfightswashingtonspendingfliesfirstclass.html
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:53pmKeep on fighting the good fight Dr. Paul. We stand behind you and we will carry your message of freedom and liberty until the end.
Report Post »auntbea
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:09pmIt would be wise for Ron Paul supporters to borrow a page from the playbook of Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul doesn’t call people names, he doesn’t use foul language, he doesn‘t get in people’s faces – he is a gentleman. He knows the issues and is able to articulate them in a way that people can hear him. What he is saying is of vital importance to America- and I find it very sad that so many of his supporters sound more like the OW mobs than Dr. Paul.
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:30pmThere are always some bad examples in a crowd. But don‘t act like there aren’t just as many newt/santorum/romney supporters who act like fools too. There are just as many crazy ones there as Paul supporters.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:30pm@TRON So Newt could beat Obama..so what have you gained? You still lose everything.!!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:51pmHearing Paul’s speech tonight just reinforced my opinion of him being unclear and not really serious. Glad Newt won.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:59pmThe Dr.Gollum revolution is a fizzle….he will never have the ring
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:03pmI too, am glad that Obama won. What, that isn’t what you meant? Well, it will be the result of nominating Newt – guarantee that.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:07pmWait when Election time happens in november and tell me the Revolution doesn’t matter clown.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:09pmthe Revolution doesn’t matter clown.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:11pmHey PAULBEARERS; you are name-callers, gloriously ignorant, and I love responding to you anyway.
GO NEWT!!!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:12pm@ TRON so you are pro Communist huh.?
Report Post »Newt Gingrich Backs Funds For Abortion
Gingrich says he would’ve voted for TARP
Gingrich says the government must force people to buy health insurance
Gingrich Supports Amnesty for Illegals Aliens
Gingrich voted to create the Department of Education
Gingrich was passionately in favor of helping Russia (with US foreign aid),
Gingrich voted for the anti-gun Brady Campaign’s Lautenberg Gun Ban, which took away gun rights
Gingrich worked for the Rockefeller campaign
Newt Gingrich voted for a federal land grab that put tens of millions of acres of land in the hands of Washington bureaucrats
Gingrich cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine
Gingrich voted to take land away from states and individuals. The “Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act,” which Newt Gingrich voted for in support of President Jimmy Carter, was a federal government power grab that put tens of millions of acres of land in the hands of the corrupt cronyism and bureaucracy in Washington.
In one year (1994-1995) Newt Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign aid
Newt Gingrich supported GATT
Newt Gingrich supported WTO
Newt Gingrich says that NAFTA worked ‘because it created jobs in Mexico’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818630/posts
TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:19pm@Ashes
Report Post »Nope, not a commie. But I am a pragmatist and NEWT is the guy who can beat Obama.
circleDwagons
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:31pmTron. i love how you say we Paulbots name call and then you do the same. most of us are just calling spades spades or big government progs progs. Libertarians love the country that the Founders invision we know that prosperity comes from Liberty. we want to be Free men not slaves to the establishment.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:44pm@TRONINTHEMORNING
“Hey PAULBEARERS; you are name-callers, gloriously ignorant, and I love responding to you anyway.”
Wow… you just brought back memeries of Dr. Paul Bearer form the old sci-fi horror movies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvYpBX2-Tbk
https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+paul+bearer+ii&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-4QbT7OBFcfqtgfhtbilCw&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQsAQ&biw=1215&bih=805
Yep… that’s Dr. Paul alright. Now you militant Paulites that want to come to my house and knee-cap me and rape my wife and child should just come on over. I’m waiting and ready.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ron-paul-supporters-threaten-atlanta-family-with-rape-death
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:47pm@CIRLCEDWAGONS
I only call the nasty ones PAULBEARERS; the civil folks, I refer to as Paul supporters. You seem like a Paul supporter.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:47pmRepubliCorp – I said in November. But I guess you have a hard time reading too. DURRRR
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:49pmLike I said you will gleefully participate in your own demise.
Report Post »brnice
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:48pmIn a couple weeks he will be 77 years old …. come on people.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:54pmAfter November..if we don’t elect this man…we are done people.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:00pm@ashestoashes Sadly you‘re correct because the rest of the progressives running will finish off what’s left of the constitution anyway.These faux conservatives are denser than lead and have an aversion to freedom and liberty.They‘ll gladly participate in their own demise and not even realize it until it’s too late.
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:01pmEven if he’s only in office one year, do you understand what kind of message electing Ron Paul is? This country has been systematically broken down by nearly every administration since the progressive era began.
I think by now, the line in the sand has been drawn. Those who understand and will stand up for freedom, have already done so. The rest, as far as I’m concerned, are just part of the problem. People aren’t waking up fast enough.
The biggest problems facing this nation, are the debt, the federal reserve, and the federal government being too big. None of the other candidates are doing a single thing about these. They will grow governent and they will not challenge the federal reserve.
People are going to look at this election for a long time to come. And they’re going to say one thing, “They were offered a chance, it was right in front of them, but they wouldn’t take it.”
America will collpase, even worse than the U.S.S.R. did; and, when that happens, our military will not exist as it does today, our freedoms will not exist as we knew them, and we will likely never be as prosperous as we have been.
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:03pmGod Bless Ron.
77 is not old! But it is too old to be running for president.
He should have let his son take it and run with it. His boy could have won it. Hands Down!!~!!
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:03pmThat is 8 years older than the oldest president ever to take office, Ronald Regan. It might help people on the fence if he were to select a vice. I for one am not on the fence. He policies are overwhelmingly good, but the policies he has wrong, are dead wrong, and I could never vote for him unless it was against Obummer in the general.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:11pm@Roaran I hear ya I‘ve tried many times to tell these so called conservatives about these progressives running masked as conservatives but they just don’t listen.They actually believe Mitt Newt and Rick are conservatives,it’s mind boggling the willful ignorance displayed and we will indeed have a depression 2.0 very soon.Our national debt is the worst threat to our liberty and you try to explain that to a faux conservative and they just don’t get it.They‘re convinced we’ll be destroyed by some terrorists and I say we will be destroyed from within our government will handle that task.
Report Post »wiggie89
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:42pm3 out of 50 states have voted. Count him out now and your as bad as the MSM, just sayin.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:47pmRon Paul doesn’t exist in this corrupt corporate media until he places 4th.
When he is second or third… he is invisible.
Divorce the corrupt media.
Report Post »Regdunlop
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:48pmI agree, it’s to early to hand it to any of them yet. And remember folks, this is just the primary, not the election.
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:41pmThe movement to restore the constitution will continue whether Paul wins or not. We are going to win no matter what.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:52pmNow this is a post I can agree with whole-heartedly.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:00pmPaull is the ONLY One who will uphold the Constitution..There are no others who will..After electing him..we need to work on that Constitutional Congress and Senate..It is up to us
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:49pmwho else defends the constitution other than Paul. The others one know how to bring it up to persuade you.
Report Post »bpodlesnik
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:35pmMomentum?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:29pmdownward
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:33pmI caught part of the speech-It was really good! ESPECIALLY regarding going to Washington D.C. for a day to vote against the newest borrowing $$$ to pay Peter, who doesn’t have any intention of paying back Paul via Chang. Also great news regarding proposed legislation regarding repealing the “new” Presidential power where he can target any American Citizen he feels like offing.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:43pmI agree the speech was great. I wish Paul was that good in other areas, like foreign policy. And please Paulies, no more talking points. I have heard them all and have done my research and the good does not outweigh the bad with Paul. Too bad too.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:57pm@SHASTA Have you seen this video Shasta? Have you? Have you? Please watch!!!
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PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:05pmShasta – Do you not understand that foreign aid and wars cost money that we do not have. Do you continue to buy product on your credit card even though you have no money coming your way to pay for it int he future? If so than than your a criminal just like the government & the Federal Reserve. We need to come home for now. Get back to normal. So stop bashing Pauls foreign policy.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:15pm@ashestoashes, most of what I have learned about Paul’s foreign policy has come from his own words. I appreciate you not sending me the RP Talking Points as I have heard them all and done my own research. You seem to be pretty decent so I will watch your video in the morning. Thanks
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:12pm@ SHASTA Thanks Shasta…It is one of the most profound things you will ever see.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:32pmWelcome to the Carolina’s, in todays election 4th place is D
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V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:48pmHe’s 4th in SC, when he’s 2nd or 3rd the media ignores him.
We’re not buying it and our morale is unshakable.
Report Post »WiredRight
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:07pmYeah, welcome to the Carolina’s where they boo the Golden Rule… Even in that kind of cesspool he still got more votes than Romney did the last time around.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:51pmI’m with you, WiredRight.
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 6:15amthe Paultards are immune to reality; that’s why they became Paultards in the first place
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