Ron Paul: Romney Camp is Scared About Me Speaking at the GOP Convention
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Texas Rep. Ron Paul on Friday said the Romney campaign is “insecure” about him speaking at the Republican National Convention next month, possibly because they’re concerned about him using it as a platform to rally his supporters.
Nebraska‘s state GOP convention Saturday is Paul’s last chance to win an official presence and speaking slot in Florida. Under the RNC’s bylaws, Paul needs to win a plurality of delegates in five states to be awarded a convention spot. So far, he has four: Iowa, Minnesota, Maine and Louisiana. Nebraska is his final hope, though even supporters admit it’s a long shot.
“I think the Romney campaign organization is very insecure,” said Paul in an interview on Fox Business.
Paul said he hasn‘t heard directly from Romney on whether he’ll be given a spot, but said he‘s gotten the sense that it’s the RNC that’s more open to letting him have a presence.
“They [the Romney campaign] want this thing to go smoothly,” he said. “But all conventions are like that. And this is the one thing that annoys me a bit. If they want this thing to go smoothly and be a big media event, and it costs the taxpayers $18 million, and they don’t want a discussion, why can’t we have a little debate?”
Paul said he would think that if someone “had a base where there’s individuals like the young people who would like to come into the party,” it would make sense to let that person speak.
“It‘s not like I’m preaching socialism, I’m preaching and doing the things and getting credit for doing exactly what Republicans claim they believe in,” Paul said. “It’s sort of ironic, ‘Oh we don’t like these Ron Paul people because they don’t vote to raise the national debt when we need to.’”
Asked about the recent flurry of rumors that Condoleezza Rice could be tapped to be Romney’s running mate, Paul said he would be “pretty amazed if she were to be picked.”
“I can understand philosophically why she might…it wouldn’t help the Ron Paul supporters, they would like a different foreign policy,” Paul said.
Still, he said it’s not up to him what his supporters do: “I don’t dictate anything to anybody.”
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wakewiseone
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:28pmron, if romney aint skeered of attending and speaking at the naacp meeting………….he sure as he ll isnt worried in the least about you being the the gop convention as a presenter.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:36pmthen he should make it happen….Does he want the constitution vote, or not?
Report Post »mils
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:39pmRon gives himself entirely tooooooo much credit…
Report Post »If conservatives/republicans wanted him over all the other candidates..
.THEY WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HIM!!!!
OlefromMN
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:50pmAnother presidential election cycle, another whining display of Paul and his supporters. Nothing new to see here, move along.
This is the same whiny BS that Paul pulled in 2008. Get up and speak for all we care. Then when you are not the nominee, sit back and respect the person who is. It’s as simple as that.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:51pmRomney speaking in front of the NAACP wasnt bravery, it was stupidity. He went there only because of the racism attacks on him over his Mormon faith. Why give credibility to the NAACP? They are a racist organization and he wasted time and money on them. Romney will get as many black votes as he Obama gets Mormon votes.
KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:52pmmils
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:39pm
If conservatives/republicans wanted him over all the other candidates..
.THEY WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HIM!!!!
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Now THAT is the scary part:
Romney In 2009: “Glad To Hear” Obama “Copying” RomneyCare
It’s hard for me to believe that so many conservatives are now on board with government-run healthcare.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:56pmTry again OlefromMN.
Paul has told his supporters to have nothing but repect for the election process. In fact I think he has been way to milk-toast. He has 10,000 people show up at his rallys sometimes. Even after it became clear the establishment was not going to let him win. So that man can say whatever he wants. Lord help us this is America. What is wrong with you people bashing a liberty candidate.
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:58pmIrony: Ron “The Whiner” Paul whining about someone else’s insecurity.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:01pmRon….Dont wake up the sheeple. You might start a revolution if you did…We couldnt have that….
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:20pm@bad
Sad thing is useful idiots like QP, Barber, Tron, Endthe, and the many others would be for the DHS using the provisions of the NDAA and their 400million rounds they just bought against us.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:21pmWAKEUPUSA2012,
His supporters must have missed the memo to be respectful in all of their RON PAUL 2012, MONEYBOMB, BWAAACK… hysteria.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:36pmagreed plus RP is an EGOMANIAC! This guy has done nothing for 30 years other than toot his horn and invoke the Constitution in everyother sentence. I have never seen him lead/organize a march, protest, congressional walkout/govt shutdown, fed protest etc etc. PLENTY in his name but Pal has never lifted a finger outside his 9-5 job description. I find it beyond insulting that this career politician who has constantly trashed the republican party has the audacity to run under for potus. Paul is a hardcore dangerous neoliberal/neoconfederate/ secessionist!
He loads bills up with pork that he votes against where he well knows will get passed. Then he brags about his voting history that all his followers, who are almost identical mentally to obamazombies, toot his voting record LIE. His district is one of the highest recipients of pork spending. He claims “this is how the game is played” in defense and justification… no sir sorry if you are against pork spending YOU DONT PLAY THE GAME!
Ron Paul is by far one of the biggest frauds in govt. Sorry RP followers just b/c he invokes the Constitution in every other sentence doesnt qualify him to be potus. NONE of you have ever challenged him when he does it either in generalities. I saw this same thing from obamazombies, took his every word as gospel never questioning him and look what we got. Paul is fooling you all he is just like the rest in DC.
Cont to campaign for Obama Ron, you torpedo this election we’ll know who
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:41pm@ Kid, it is apparent that you have no clue, so let me explain it too you. Each individual State has the Enumerated Power to require it’s residents to have or purchase something, like health insurance. The Federal Government does not have the Enumerated Power to mandate all US citizens to purchase something like health care. This is why our Founding Fathers put into our Declaration of Independence of what Enumerated Powers the Government shall have and were not allowed to go beyond those Enumerated Powers. This was done specifically to give each State the power to Govern their own selves. What Romney did in MA was within his power to do under the Declaration of Independence and the Enumerated Powers. If you would read the Constitution as well as the Declaration of Independence, then you would have known this.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:52pm@BMartin1776
Report Post »So which republican is less of a “fraud” than Ron Paul? Mitt Romney??? Whatever helps you sleep better at night i guess
OlefromMN
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:58pm“Even after it became clear the establishment was not going to let him win.”
Time to start picking the Paul crying apart. Every state has it’s primary or caucus. The people overwhelmingly have supporter Mitt (I was not a Mitt fan and in fact our precinct voted for Santorum) and he has ultimately wound up the GOP leader in delegates. For the RPers to think they are going to march into Tampa with some hair-brained idea of a backdoor delegate grab, will surely elect Obama to a second term. It’s time to take off the Zubas RP supporters and face reality.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:06pmpudssweetie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:41pm
@ Kid, it is apparent that you have no clue, so let me explain it too you.
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It’s you who have no clue:
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“Over the five-year life of the new law, total cost has been $9 billion, with the federal government picking up nearly 64 percent of the cost, the state’s share is more than 18 percent, and the remaining 18 percent split by hospitals and insurers, who pass it along to their customers, to pay into the Health Safety Net fund, which reimburses providers for treating the uninsured. The federal share consists of the usual 50 percent reimbursement for Medicaid, supplemented by stimulus money and additional funds awarded the state for its innovative program to subsidize insurance of the working poor.
Many of the more than 400,000 Massachusetts residents who have become insured since the law’s enactment receive coverage paid in whole or in part with public funds.”
The Federal Government is already paying for 64% of the cost of RomneyCare in Massachusetts!”
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Nowhere in the 10th Amendment does it ever say that I am forced to contribute money to help somebody in Massachusetts get free healthca
Report Post »TheeAgnostic
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:16pmYou mean Romneys “I’m a Right Wing Progressive” speech he delivered to the NAACP. Romney is left of Clinton. Massachucets has Romney care. Arkansas doesn’t have Bubba care. Romney makes JFK look like a Libertarian. “Ask not what your Country can do for you…..” VS. expanding Federal Government scholorships. You Romneybots seemed just as determined to destroy this country as the Obamabots
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:27pmOlefromMN
Very intelligent comment. I enjoyed the facts and sources. Keep up the good work!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:28pmI just love the way Ron Paul folks are cultist, kooks, etc. while the mainstream GOP are dancing in the woods around a bonfire naked at the Bohemian Grove… Sigh. LMAO… any Paul supporters catch Gingrinch autographing a picture of him there at the conference despite denying he’s attending. LOL… A bunch of men dancing naked in the woods while standing firm against gay marriage… You can’t make this stuff up!! But hey if we’re cultists to these freaks…
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:33pmRon Paul Supporters..Chech this out!
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Khyh6xsSs&feature=g-all-lik
OlefromMN
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:34pmWAKEUPUSA2012,
What facts and sources would you like? I made an opinion of a situation, you appear to have something else in mind. I am game.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:35pmIn other words WAKEUPUSA2012,
“I’ll be your Huckleberry”
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:42pmjustangry
Dont talk about Bohemian Grove. Be a good little stooge and shut up. Whatever the GOP says is golden. Whatever the government says is the word of God. Romans 13. (hitlers fav bible verse) Dont listen to alternative raido. People who talk about the CFR Tri Lateral Group and Bohemian Grove along with Bilderberg are crazy tin foil hat wearing noobs.
Im proud to be on that side. Neocons and Neolibs are the enemy. Resistance is victory.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:51pmTo Romney Supporters and Everyone who wanted everyone else but freedom via Ron Paul … All the Presidential hopefuls supported this..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slzZgmhH3Zk&feature=related
and since they crawled back into the woodwork..none of them even having filed the paperwork to run but Romney and Paul.. Romney is the same as Obama.. has supported gun control, NDAA,, SOPA global warming cap and trade..and is funded by the banksters. like Goldman Sachs .and the rest of the banking cartel just like his opponent….It will be no different..so don’t worry..be happy..
db321
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:53pmRon you spoke at every debate we had and you got 5% of the vote. We heard you then and we were not scared of anything you said. The only thing that scares me about Ron Paul is some of his supporters – they have to be some of the most obnoxious people I have ever seen.
At times, I think they feel Ron Paul wrote the Constitution.
Report Post »db321
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:01pmWhy did the Blaze post a story about Ron Paul. Now all of his Paulbots are climbing out of the woodwork. Can we make them stop.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:09pmDB321, Don’t be scared of us. We’ll be the first to be killed or thrown away. They‘ll continue to let you submit to their will until you’ve finally had enough or they just get tired of you. Besides, after reading many of your posts, I think you pretty much get what you think from Rush or one of the other blowhards. They said he wants Iran to get a nuke and to legalize drugs and that’s all you needed to know, right? Well they were dishonest, but you still don’t care. Nevermind the guy speaking out against drugs got busted for sticking opiates up his ass… sigh.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:45pmDamn I hate it when I get to a Ron Paul topic late. As far as I‘m concerned Ron Paul doesn’t even deserve a mention at the GOP Convention let alone a speaking spot. Why does Ron Paul think he “deserves” anything other than a swift kick in the ass back home? What has he done for the GOP? Nada. What has he done for Obama and the Democrat Party? Plenty.
The guy has extreme character flaws, an extremely flawed ideology and is supported by an extremely flawed following made up mostly these days by the young, selfish, Liberally educated, got to have it now crowd, the hate authority, decency and morals crowd (not unlike the OWS dimwits)… who got excited by a few buzzwords (Reminds me of Obama acolytes), the thought of legalized dope, prostitution.
Constitution my ass Paul acolytes. Ron Paul only would use the Constitution to pedal his diseased brand of Rothbardian Libertarian ideology until this country slips into a moral abyss just like Obama is directing it to now.
Ron Paul idea’s for the most part are for the misguided and mediocre among us. Namely you… Ron Paul’s miscreants and malcontents for a r3volution…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:03pm@Time2, I got a theory about you. Old warrior with the fight still in his heart, but you can’t get any satisfaction fighting with the limp-d**ked GOP because they’ll just go along with anything and the liberals are stupid. I mean it’s either us, who fight back or the other guys who are like… “You want to stick your hands where Mr. uneducated, poorly trained TSA agent?… um I guess I‘m fine with that if you say it’s for my own good” lol
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:36pmTime,
What has the GOP done for you?
Lets see
2012 NDAA which says american citizens can be locked up by the US army forever.
Report Post »The currents DHS which gave us the TSA which molest our sons wives mothers and daughters. (oh but you dont fly, well hopefully you dont drive or walk either cause they are going to be on the roads and in our neighborhoods very soon)
The GOP gave us NAFTA/GAT which has imploded our economy even faster than the hijacking bankers expected. You are a terrorist. You are are threat, thats what the GOP has done for you. You think cause you were in the military and served in combat you know whats going on in our government? Your a fool. I pitty you and anyone who bashes a liberty candidate. When the ish hits the fan and the UN or some of our military are kicking down your doors groping your wife and taking your guns, well I wish I could be there to see the look on your face. Wish I could tell you Ron Paul was our way out,(MAYBE) but people like you blew it. You think you know, you have no idea how bad America has become. We have been hijacked by bankers and you are complicit to the NWO every second you defend the military industerial complex.
NoNannyState4me
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:42pmRothbard was brilliant. I smell a neocon. You know who you are. hehe
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:55pmI know, he bashes Rothbard or being racist, then turns around and grovels at the feet of the GOP establishment. Lol does he have any idea what kind of racist have come out of the GOP? Lol Time does not know history but treats anyone who thinks for themselves as dope smoking commies. Hey time were you growing drugs for the military? Then shipping them into America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-b3pB6M7s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElEciFI0Pew
So we can turn around and lock up any citizen who is stupid enough to use drugs. Thats why America has more people in prison per captia than anyother country in the WORLD. Including China and the scary muslism in Iran. Lol this country is a joke now. Freedom, Bravery, Honor. Means nothing anymore. Weve been sold out to the highest bidder.
The bankers.
So you go ahead and vote for Rommney. The Goldman sachs candidate. Or vote for Obama. The Goldmansachs candidate.
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:35pmThe accusations of racism, directed at Rothbard and Ron Paul are either completely ignorant or completely disingenuous. Anyone who has extensively read the works of these two men knows for a fact that both are brilliant, honest, and virtuous men whose passion in life is individual liberty. (Very similar to Thomas Jefferson).
The accusations of using drugs and prostitutes, directed at Pauls supporters are equally ingnorant or disingenuous. I’m 50 years old and have never used any drugs (or alcohol, tobacco, or prostitutes for that matter) and I support legalizing drugs and prostitution for two main reasons;
1. These acts are vices. The only victim is the user. I believe that partaking in these vices is stupid and immoral and that being stupid and being immoral is not a crime unless you harm another person.
2. I see no difference between these vices and the vice of alcohol use. Alcohol is at least as addictive and causes more deaths than drugs. I find it extremely hypocritical for anyone who uses alcohol to insist that drug users be locked up.
Most Paul supporters are not drug users and won’t be drug users if/when drugs are legalized. Most of us are more like Tom Woods, Andrew Napolitano, Chuck Baldwin, etc… we realize that if you say you believe in freedom and liberty, but you mean only for those who believe exactly what you believe, then you don’t believe in freedom and liberty at all.
Report Post »GB__The Holy Warmonger
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:45pmTo those of you who are currently Romney supporters and think all of us should support him because he has won the most delegates; did you do the same with Obama when he won the most States in 2008? Did you support the President?
Report Post »Classical Liberal
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:51pmOh sweet LULZ, Romney is Terrified of Paul? Romney wants to use Paul to help him grab the independent voters that have flocked to Paul. The romney campaign will experience another kind of flop if they fail to secure the independent vote.
I guess he should be somewhat nervous if he has any intention of actually winning the election.
Report Post »subic
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:53pmCalling Dr Paul, calling Dr paul, come in please….**crickets**…maybe he forgot to put on his tin foil cap…..eh?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:00amTo all of you Traitors to the Constitution, yes all of you idiots who think you have a brain in your head. You will all be sorry for every sheeple thing you did and did not do. Obama will get another four because of your ignorance. You should all vote according to intellect. What you have learned from information received. But you all think you are so smart, but in the end you will all be F—ED!! Paul supporters meant what they said about not voting for Romney. He cannot win without us. You all will suffer from your decisions, so be it. I am prepared, are you? If not, you better get prepared fast. So long America, the Republicans have let you down, again.
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:04amGo ahead, discredit Ron everyone, it doesn’t matter.You are not accomplishing anything here. You are just sheep of the media. You have been modified and programed to believe the best effect you can have in the political world as a conservative is to promote Romney, because its A.B.O, right?… WRONG. Im not even going to go into RomenyCare and every liberal policy Romney supports and in many cases created as Governor of Massachusetts, but you MUST see the BIG picture at this point. We are headed into an economic crisis, with a never ending war on terror, as well as a never ending war on the the private sector. The most valuable characteristic in a politician is honesty. Ron Paul is the only person who is honest about what he believes, so call him crazy if you think he’s crazy, but don’t talk like Romney is better, because he’s not.
Report Post »GB__The Holy Warmonger
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:34amIf Romney wins it’ll be “we didn’t want or need you kooks anyway“ and if he loses it be ”all those RP kooks’ fault”.
No acceptance of responsibility for choosing a poor candidate. They’ll sound just like the whining liberals; it’s everybody elses fault.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:05amRon Paul is for the wholesale legalization of drugs (to include crack and heroin)… not just a little bit of marijuana you Paul neo-Libs want everyone to focus on as being the harmless all-American Founder weed you pass it off as. I swear, it amazes me the lengths that Paul acolytes (and the rest of the drug addled left) will go to spin the legalization of drugs (including hard drugs). What a crock of crapolla and practiced spin. As usual, none of Ron Paul’s white owl smokers here are dope smokers, lol. But they DO have the best interests of the rest of drug addled America at heart. Isn’t that BIG of you guys. WOW! God love you freedom riders for drugs users old and new, their insanity, their chaos, and even the rest of the morally bankrupt in our society who will choose the woman demeaning, drug and disease connected art of prostitution as their drug of choice!! Yooz guys is da’ bestest!!
But always know and remember… If government is essentially the collective exercise of the individual right to self-defense, then of course people are within their rights to protect themselves from drug-related crimes and accidents by prohibiting the source. Conservatives in particular should know better than to fall for these half-baked Libertarians’ superficially appealing arguments about the “right” to do drugs… John Locke himself argued that man’s power over his own body was not absolute, that liberty didn’t cover the right to enslave or destroy one’s self.
Report Post »dukielouie
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:18amRon Paul will force the REC to pay attention to issues like the auditing the Fed, Global governance,and the constitution. What are we doing? Beck talks all the time about the move towards One World Order. Do you think Paul wants that? America has no more money and we still want to pay for wars like Afganastan.What is wrong with Paul speaking ? Is it because the REC doesn’t want people to hear the TRUTH?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:34amTime2, You know it‘s a 10th amendment issue he’s talking about regarding drugs. I mean, it doesn’t matter anymore, but he would not, as president, have been able to “make drugs legal” at the federal level because there is no authority to do so in the Constitution. His personal beliefs are irrelevant.
Report Post »DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:47amNEWS FLASH, June 7, 2012 – Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s son, endorsed Mitt Romney for president late Thursday night, just a day after his father admitted that he could not be the GOP nominee given his delegate count…Rand told told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “But now that the nominating process is over, tonight I‘m happy to announce that I’m going to be supporting Gov. Mitt Romney.”
Ron who?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:08amRothbard’s (Racist, bigot) work on race and politics, eulogized and promoted by Lew Rockwell (Mises Inst, Ron Paul Newsletters Ghostwriter, racist, bigot, anti-Semite), has always posed a major problem for Paul’s acolytes. Even Paul himself recognized this problem,“ belatedly”, when he claimed that “Libertarians are incapable of being a racist, because racism is a collectivist idea.” If this statement is true, it would mean that Rothbard was not a true Libertarian. If the statement is false, it would mean that at least one brand of Libertarianism was racist (which is more likely the case), and Rothbard’s supporters seem to be okay with wearing that brand… always have.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:23amIn 1993, Rothbard wrote about Malcolm X and discussed the possibility of a separate state for Blacks, but concluded that it would “require massive “foreign aid” from the U.S.A.” (which turned him away from that idea in the end). He also described Black nationalism as “a phony nationalism” that was “beginning to look like a drive for an aggravated form of coerced parasitism over the White population.” The overall impression created by that article was that Rothbard was using Black nationalism as a straw man with which to complain about Black ‘parasitism’ and the supposed inability of Blacks to form independent, self-sufficient communities without welfare support from Whites.
Rothbard stated that “There is no question that Black nationalism is a lot more Libertarian than the compulsory integration pushed by M L King, the NAACP, and White liberals.” This says more about Rothbard than it does about Black nationalism. A separatist state, with restricted migration to ‘the USA’, does not seem to be a free one, nor would Black nationalism in its Muslim form have offered women the range of liberties that Rothbard took for-granted in the case of others.
Rothbard also advocated that “Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error.” The implication clearly was that the cops would be White and the recipients Black. True or not, that’s a pretty draconian tactic for a Libert
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:48amWow Time2, You say I sound like Code Pink then you go all Al Sharpton over a dead guy.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:10amJust pointing out the facts JUST. There is NO PLACE for racism within the GOP or Conservatism. This is what Ron Paul has brought to the table with his diseased and racist Rothbardian ideology along with his friends and business partners like Lew Rockwell for example. You should know Lew Rockwell… the guy who has taken the fall as the “ghostwriter” for the Ron Paul Newsletters. What a guy he is to fall on the sword for Paul like that… what a guy.
Rothbard/Paul/Rockwell… the 3 stooges of the new and supposedly improved brand of Libertarian ideology. That is why the likes of David Duke, the KKK and other White supremacist groups and anti-Semitic arganizations endorse and support Ron Paul (end the fed my @ss).
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:38am@time2
Report Post »I have paid a lot of attention to the Ron Paul campaign as well as posters on this site. You are the only one who has brought racism to the table
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:04amSOY. That‘s why I’m here… to make sure that anyone who hasn‘t TOTALLY researched Rothbard’s (Ron Paul being is HIS acolyte) racist and anti-Semitic brand of diseased Libertarianism gets a little bit more than the average Ron Paul spin meister is willing to put out there….
Actually, a whole lot more than the average Paul acolyte is willing to talk about. It’s quite obvious that you folks would like to hide, cover-up or ignore the BAD parts of this ideology…
It doesn’t quite go with the Ron Paul narrative that you all like to convince people of does it ?? But never the less… it’s there.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:16amRacism is bad unless we’re talking about Arabs and Persians, then kill them all. Gotcha. If racism isn‘t welcome in the GOP you might want to check out the comments the next time there’s a brawl at Denny’s. lol
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:19pmThere goes Time_2_Lie again, cutting and pasting (without giving credit to the actual writer). This time in his 8:23 post about Rothbards (alleged) racism. This is a cut and paste from ‘anti-semitism.net” in a July 2006 article. This organization has the same credibility in it’s accusations of racism and anti-semitism as does Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and other similar race-baiters.
Time_2_Lie should just be honest and admit that he is a race-baiting, nanny-state, big-government statist, and quit pretending to be conservative because we all know that race-baiting and big-government are the trademarks of the left.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:43pm@Soy
first…why would you let someone speak at your nomination that is OPENLY hostile to you and the platform the party is trying to run on? that is just STUPID thinking… maybe if Ronnie would admit there are some things him and Romney agree on (he seemed to do it quite a lot during the debates when he was bashing Cain, Santorum, and everyone BUT Romney – so much so even the conservative media was saying Paul was pandering to Romney for a spot in the Cabinet or VP) and rally the ENTIRE party and independents around their candidate, Romney would let him speak… but Ronnie still just MOUTHS off as a spoiled child would, and so if regulated to the dustbin of history…
and I am sick and tired of all the RP drones BABBLING on abou how only RP is for the Constitution – BS!! he is for HIS interpretation of the Constitution – and how he is the only true patriot and the new George Washington.. REALLY!!! REALLY!! there was narely a man, woman, or child in the Founding Generation, from 1760-1800, that would speak ILL of the character of George Washington, he was the IDEAL American in EVERY aspect…
RP is a self serving, double dealing CAREER politician who votes against bills after he votes for the earmarks in them, who panders to racists, anti semites, Truthers, and conspiracy WINGNUTS!! to stay in power! He is JUST AS BAD as any politician that has stayed in Congress 10 or more years.. HE IS A FRAUD!!
Report Post »Maji
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:58pmSoybum,
Report Post »Speaking of making it happen maybe you
can get Obama to apologize
for “Fast n Furious”.
black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:58pmIt’s amazing at all the sheep who bash Paul. Willful ignorance is the worst kind of ignorance.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:09pm@ Soybomb
–”So which republican is less of a “fraud” than Ron Paul? Mitt Romney??? Whatever helps you sleep better at night i guess”
Interesting how you completely ignored the issue in question :
“(Paul) loads bills up with pork that he votes against where he well knows will get passed. Then he brags about his voting history that all his followers, who are almost identical mentally to obamazombies, toot his voting record LIE. His district is one of the highest recipients of pork spending.”
Typical Paulbot, with your head stuck in the sand. Mmmmm fetus burgers!!!!
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:15pm@TIME
Do you even know how drug laws came to be? Look it up. You’ll find it wasn’t for our safety. Drugs don’t cause violence, except maybe PCP. The black market causes the violence! Black markets come from making drugs illegal. You see, in a true free market if someone wrongs you, you can sue or call the police. In a black market you can only use violence if someone wrongs you. Why? Because it’s called the “clean hands doctrine” if you do something illegal and get harmed you can’t sue. Getting rid of black markets by making drugs legal would get rid of most of the violence.
Btw, Ron Paul is for states deciding the drug issues. Since constitutionally the Federal Government has NO right to deal with RESERVED powers.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:27pmI would like Time_to_be_a_disinformation_troll to respond to my reply to him?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:03pm@Goodstuff
Yea, i ignored it because there was no question in that statement. Is it our responsibility to set all of you guys straight? We are not your babysitters
About the pork – right, I wish more congressmen voted against the actual bills. What is worse….. to add $100 million to a $300 Billion bill and then vote against it, or play along and vote FOR a $300 Billion bill? I’ll take the first one – and i wish the other republicans had the same courage. You forget that it is his JOB to represent his district. Part of that duty includes getting back money that the federal government has stolen from them
peace
Report Post »Pendragon
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:48pmWell No concerns Paul will not be able to say anything and with the Face Recognition Software and cameras on every street corner and hallway at our convention center here in Tampa all those outspoken Paul supporters will have a secret admirer within 10 feet at all times so no disruptions from the Paulbots and None from Paul himself
Report Post »flaggdies
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:38pmIts the same thing in 76′ when Gerald Ford was afraid to let Reagan speak at the convention. He was afraid all of the delegates would turn for Reagan. He only let the Reagan speak after the nomination. When Reagan finally delivered his speech all the delegates felt they cast their vote wrong. Oh Yeah Ford was a big moderate just like Romney. Hmmm… NO PARALLELS……
Report Post »LibertyOrDeath12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:27pmIf he is not scared then why do you cheat at conventions? Break fingers, threaten us or use the media to deceive every one. Break a poor old man’s hip. Why didn’t you want to debate Ron one on one. Because you scared
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:10am“They said he wants Iran to get a nuke and to legalize drugs and that’s all you needed to know, right? ”
Uh no, “They” didn’t say it. Ron Paul said it out of his own mouth at EVERY SINGLE debate. I watched them all and then the next day I hear Paulbots try to tell me I did not hear what I heard. You people are cultists. You worship this man in a way that is creepy. He is a politician, not the Messiah. You guys agree with Obama way more than we conservatives do.
BTW
Report Post »Libertarian ! = Conservative
FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:11pmRon Paul or Gary Johnson are the only viable candidates. It is obvious that THEBLAZE, has done what it can this election cycle to thwart the Ron Paul campaign. Only after a barrage of negative comments on your hit pieces did you post a favorible article about Ron Paul and the refusal to talk about the Bilderbergers, and the attacks on Alex Jones for doing so al the while Glenn Beck have made a carrier of coying stories from Alex Jones! I was blocked from posting this on the other Ron Paul thread, so I am trying to do it here. I must have hit a nerve!
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:39pmThis is a great video to help fill in the blanks:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsmPMOISK64&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLPYcuVnHr0KSLyvwfOwgZ0A
desertspeaks
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:03pmso the republicans have the same sort of shills the democrats have, who woulda thunk it!?!? are some of you sure you’re not little barry board brawlers? because it sure seems like it…
Report Post »brainwashed morons..
ricckky
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:15pmIf most of his supporters weren’t dope smoking minions–he might have some credibility–Get over it—-You are a true kookoo bird Ron. You are a true isolationist. Our freedom would be jeopardized with you leading the country. Especially if we had to go to war with a bunch of pot heads!!!!!
Report Post »KC1
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:22pmRick
Report Post »Ha wow sound arguments there. Let me ask you this though, if we go bankrupt by allowing the Fed to continue to set interest rates and print money how secure will our freedoms be then? Didnt Romney say Bernakie is doing a good job and not to worry about the Fed? Did he support TARP, and the financial bailouts?
Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:31pmSo let me get this straight. First you claim that his lack of credibility is due to his followers, and then in the very next breath say that it’s because of his whacky policies. Hmmm…
Maybe you should learn to form a coherent thought before you start casting stones. Just saying.
Report Post »Justthefactsmam
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:49pmKC1 Nobody argues fiscally Ron Paul is probably one of the best out there…but his position on foriegn policy, meaning his isolationism policy‘s won’t work in this day and age. I would love to see RP become either the Treasury Secretary, or better yet, the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. But President, NO!!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:56pm@justthefacts
What kind of foreign policy will we have if we go bankrupt? Under the “best” GOP proposal outside of Ron Paul’s is the Paul Ryan plan. His plan calls for 5 billion in cuts over the next ten years. We run deficits of 1.1 to 1.6. That leaves us in 10 years with 25 to 26 trillion in debt if interest rates dont move. Can we handle that?
To think our economic issues arent our biggest foreign issue is just naive.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:59pm@Justthefactsmam
You have it wrong. It is called “non-interventionism”, not “isolationism”. For someone with a name like yours, it is ironic that you dont understand that.
Two options: Interventionism or Non-Interventionism…..Based on modern history, it seems non-interventionism wins in a landslide (FYI – hitler came to power because of socialism….but that was a different time)
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:01pmJustthefactsmam
It’s a common misconception that Ron Paul is a complete isolationist. Not wanting to have a military presence in hundreds of countries around the world does not an isolationist make. Put down the neo-con talking points and face reality.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:17pmYou just called the US military a bunch of dope smoking, pacifist, hippies. Wat to go conservatard.
Report Post »toiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:31pmRickkky. Spot on! Ron Paul is a lifetime politician; 38 of 78 years spent in Congress. Now for his achievement in those 38 years; 620 bills sponsored, and only 1 became law. What a lifetime achievement.
Romney is the nominee, and the Paulies just can’t stand to hear it is anyone but their beloved leader…and I say leader loosely. Ron Paul is a liar. He’s not a Republican, he’s a Libertarian!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:59pm@toilet
Report Post »You’ve been a member since 10 days ago. But yet you sound like the anti-pauls that frequently troll this site….Is that you “therealconservative”?
Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:13pm@toilet
Have you ever looked that the bills he tried to get passed. We would have a lot healthier economy and be a lot safer if we had. I dont see this as a bad thing against Ron Paul. I see it as a example of how bad our government is. Remember this is the same body of people who have us in 16 trillion in debt, 120 trillion in debt with unfunded liabilities, and take our freedoms for “our own good”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislation_sponsored_by_Ron_Paul
Do research, then type.
Report Post »toiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:28pmYou‘re following a lifetime politician who can’t get a bill signed into law. Period. 620 tries, and 1 bill. Pathetic. He’s selling crazy, and you’re buying it!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:39pm@toilet
So you refuse to look at the bills he tried to get passed? Did you the average member of congress only has 4% of their bills passed? Granted Ron Paul is lower than the average, but again did you even bother to look at the bills get tried to get passed? This is a indictment of the other members of congress. They dont have a 14% approval rating for nothing.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:42pm@Mutiny
Ron Paul’s voting record….. why all the “did not votes”.
Look through the list and you will find that Dr. Paul did not vote on Bills he sponsored or had earmarks he put in when there was enough votes for it to pass. I don’t trust any politician.
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/296/
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:46pmThat is very common during a presidential run.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:10pm@Mutiny
“That is very common during a presidential run.”
Was that post meant for me? If it was try going back to that link and notice RP’s voting record dates have nothing to do with a once in every 4 years “presidential run”.
Please explain his voting record. You won’t and neither will any other RP supporter here. Why? Because you can’t. All politicians that have been in office too long are corrupt. Including Dr. Paul.
Report Post »Bigrod58
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:14pmFolks Folks, calm down! We are all conservatives here. We can debate all we want. The truth is that Ron Paul and Gov Romney are good men and American Patriots. Disagree on fine points if you must but it appears to me we are eating our young. I personally believe that Ron Paul will not be our Republican nominee for President this year. But that doesn‘t mean that he wouldn’t make a fine President who would in fact turn this country around. He is supported by a group of predominantly younger voters that feel passionately about their Candidate (As well they should). We need these folks to carry on the banner of Conservatism. They are the ones who will be in charge (hopefully) when our Grandkids today are raising families of their own. I, for one, hope they will be there to bring our Constitutional form of government back to what was envisioned by our forefathers. While Romney appears to be far left to them, I hope that the most reasonable among them will find him to the right of Obama. And it looks like the best we can do this time around. We need their vote now and someday they will need ours.
Report Post »I hope Ron Paul is allowed to speak at the Convention. He is a very good speaker and has many positions that we can all agree upon. Keep up the banter but in fact, we all need each other. And dammit all you bas**rds better vote this year for the conservative candidate even if he appears to be to the left of Santa Clause Himself. He is to the right of Obama.
soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:33pm@Bigrod58
Thanks for those words. But I must take issue with something you said
“And dammit all you bas**rds better vote this year for the conservative candidate even if he appears to be to the left of Santa Clause Himself. He is to the right of Obama.”
First, Santa Clause seems more of a marxist to me. But anyways, many of us do no see politicians with the same eyes as you. You see politicians as shades of “left and right”. We see it in terms of progressive versus Constitution. As there is no common ground between the two, most politicians are one or the other. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney falls into the progressive category. Sorry, that is what his record shows. Yes, he is not marxist – but why settle for progressive when there will be actual Constitutionalists on the ballot?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:45pmHi MONK, We‘ve seen RP’s voting record here before in other links. He has been exposed for sponsoring bills, attaching a number of ear marks. He then makes certain that he does not vote for the bill so that he can say that he never votes for ear marks for his state.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:49pm@BigRod, The biggest problem I’m having with Romney is his draft dodging and wanting to wage war. I’m all nervous from war as it is. I don’t want anyone else to have to suffer this crap. He‘s surrounding himself with Bush’s people and they are EVIL. (17 of 24 of Romney‘s fp advisors were Bush’s) Condi on the short list for VP? If we support this candidate what makes you think the GOP will move our direction in the future? I appreciate you not calling us names like many others on here, but I just can not, in good conscience, send young kids over there for more of the same bull**** with my vote. No sir, I will not help the neoconservatives go anywhere but back their little think tanks. I will be voting for the just war theory of Christianity, liberty and our constitution as our founders wrote it.
Report Post »subic
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:08amI will give Rand Paul alot of cudos though for infiltrating the GOP. Maybe he’ll straighten out those rinos
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:54amRothbard’s (Racist, bigot) work on race and politics, eulogized and promoted by Lew Rockwell (Mises Inst, Ron Paul Newsletters Ghostwriter, racist, bigot, anti-Semite), has always posed a major problem for Paul’s acolytes. Even Paul himself recognized this problem,“ belatedly”, when he claimed that “Libertarians are incapable of being a racist, because racism is a collectivist idea.” If this statement is true, it would mean that Rothbard was not a true Libertarian. If the statement is false, it would mean that at least one brand of Libertarianism was racist (which is more likely the case), and Rothbard’s supporters seem to be okay with wearing that brand… always have.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:06amSorry (above- Rothbard retort)… wrongly placed posting.
I’ll get back to the “non-interventionist” (do-nothing) ideology of Ron Paul…
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:56amRon Paul has been an isolationist for most of his career. It cost him his last campaign in ‘08… and it cost him this one. Semantics Ron Paul… semantics.
Ron Paul disputes what an isolationist is. Isolationism does not mean not even trading with other countries. That is not isolationism; it is protectionism. Isolationism means withdrawing to [one’s own, presumably fortified, borders] and leaving the rest of the world’s nations to fight it out among themselves. Hmmm, not unlike the ‘do-nothing’ non-interventionism of Ron Paul and company.
The problem with isolationism (non-interventionism) is that cruel empire builders, like Napoleon and Hitler, can spring up at any time. They inevitably will attack even the most fortified of countries, to seize their resources (human and mineral) or even their land. No country can stand forever when someone keeps attacking it, unless it makes a counterattack. Trying to stand behind fortified borders is like trying to withstand an old-fashioned siege. Any general knows that the only way to break a siege is to attack the besiegers from behind. The Romans knew this.They laid siege to the Samnite city of Nola during the Social Wars, and [patiently waited for ten years] until the city gave up.
“No one should doubt that other empire builders can be just as patient when they need to be.”
Hmmmm. sound familiar? Sounds like the Islam to me Ron Paul. A patient bunch they are…
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:41am@time2
Our current policy, and yours, is the complete opposite….Interventionism
How is the extreme position of interventionism working out? Have you heard about 16 trillion?
Most americans are looking for a middle ground, but unfortunately, you are polluting the waters
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:08amSOY. Obama’s policies and what I consider to be “intervention” are at odds…
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:26pmTime_2 should read “War is a Racket” by General Smedley Butler.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:52pmTIME,
Those evil empire builders you just described…lol thats us. We have been hijacked by bankers. That Army does not work for the people anymore. You walked right into the main thing most of us kooks are tlaking about. Those resources your talking about country invading and stealing…thats what were doing in afghanstain and Iraq. Were there for the resources, not some noble cause like you have been trained to think. I take pitty on you.
Here why we are in Afghanstain.
http://reinep.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/before-the-us-invaded-afghanistan/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/04/afghanistans-opium-crop
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/14/the-u-s-russia-afghanistan-and-drugs/
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:08pmI am voting for Ron Paul unless Romney completely changes his views on spending, debt, wars, and freedoms. If he starts to support the Constitution he may earn my vote.
Romney will not change his progressive views. He will continue the bankruptcy, the endless wars, the massive debt, and he will continue the freedom snatching the GOP has started in the name of freedom.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:18pm@Mutiny
It’s impossible to vote for Ron Paul. He lost the nomination. If you write in Ron Paul’s name, you’ll be voting for 0bama.
There is a thing called “reality”. The rest of us already live there. Come on over and join us.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:20pm@Mutiny
I’m not getting a response from JustAngry so maybe you can help me?
You seem to know a lot about the Convention rules. I‘d like to ask you a question and I’m being serious and not ridiculing in any way. The article says, “Paul said he hasn‘t heard directly from Romney on whether he’ll be given a spot….”
Is it up to Romney to make that decision? I thought it was the RNC and if RP wins 5 States. Can you tell me what that statement meant? I just don’t know. TIA
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:29pmqpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:18pm
There is a thing called “reality”.
=====================
There is also something called ‘government-run healthcare’ too:
RomneyCare & ObamaCare: Can you tell the difference?
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:34pmqpwillie
The only “reality” you live in is the false one created by the Pentagon. You go around screaming about anti war people because you trust the people in our government. You dont even know that everytime you say something foreign policy your just regurgitating the what was told to you to say. You are under psy-ops control.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-04-19/vanden-brook-locker-propaganda/54419654/1
Oh and heres this article cause I know how much you neocons hate it.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-ron-paul-gets-most-military-donations-020912w/
That cant taste to good.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:36pmYeah Mutiny, QP is right come join us in reality where we vote for identical candidates and the only difference between them is the rhetoric. Just because Romney doesn’t want to cut spending, audit the Fed, stop the intrusive TSA and basically carry on every policy of the Obama administration doesnt mean we shouldnt vote for the guy. Come join reality fall in line.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:41pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
Report Post »So you actually think Ron Paul is going to be president? How pathetic!!!
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:43pmAnd please counter me with something besides my grammer mistakes…
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:46pm@KC1
Report Post »The reality is, either 0bama or Romney will be our next president. Beyond that, all your BS is nothing more than babble.
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:49pmThats what you got out of my post? Really? I mean come on man, in no way did I say anything like that. Your a disinformation troll. Go back to wherever it is you came from. In fact just crawl in a hole and die. Cause you dont question anything. By your words we would be better just not having elections and diffrent candidates and diffrent points of view. We should just live in complet control of whatever the establishment says. YOU FOOL. I have pitty on you.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:01pm@monk
As I understand if Ron Paul wins Nebraska’s delegates he is on nomination ballot and has a speaking roll before the delegates vote. If he fails to win Nebraska it is basically up to Romney and the GOP to allow Ron Paul to speak. If Ron Paul wins Nebraska(which I doubt because he has already had won states and the GOP has stolen them) he would be allowed to speak on what he wants to. If he loses he could be allowed to speak but the GOP and the Romney camp could decide to edit his speech.
That is how I understand it, but I could be wrong.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:03pmI wouldn’t vote for Romney any more than I would vote for Obama.
Hmm Let me see, Goldman Sachs orrrr Goldman Sachs? I don’t care how much you hate the current Organizer in Chief, it seems to me they think Romney may be a little bit better puppet.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:06pm@qp
I have said this many times. I dont see a difference policy wise between Romney and Obama. So the way I see it, the Romney supporters are voting for Obama’s policies.
Answer this, what major nation changing policy are Romney and Obama different? Dont give me gay rights, dog eating, and dog on top of a car crap. I want issues that really effect.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:22pmOh and “lesser of two evils”, “he is not a commie” or “he sat in Jeraimiah Wright’s Church for 20 years” dont count either.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:23pm@Mutiny
Thank you very much for responding to my post and giving me your best answer to my question.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:47pm@QPWILLIE ITS stupid to alienate Ron Paul supporters the way you have done Ron Paul is 90% correct …Romney had better take notice if he wants to win this election…Ron Paul and the tea party have begun the movement back to our founding principles …Too many people have chosen to demonize these groups with lies and slander…I Imagine our founding fathers were treated the same way by colonists loyal to the crown..But like our founding fathers I have the courage of my convictions..And will fight for what I know is right…
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:30pmMutiny , progressiveslayer….,Baddoggy …wakeupusa2012, myself and millions of others are constitutional conservatives…Romney voting record does not impress people like us..We are tired of voting the lesser of two evils..Romney needs to consider our values if he wants our vote..Then follow through with promises kept..
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:40pmA vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama…if you do that, you are inviting the end of America as we know it. What?! You don’t believe that?? Then YOU go watch “2016” the movie and then tell me that you are going to risk letting that guy get back into office.
Report Post »If you guys could see beyond your noses, you’d be pushing for ROMNEY TO WIN and PAUL to supervise the FED. duh. This is no longer a game of wishes or wills….we are now in survival or not.
Why do you think RAND PAUL endorsed ROMNEY…who is a very fine man and who will be able to save this COUNTRY from the BRINK of ANTI-COLONIALISM MARXISM/Muslim take over.
justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:57pmPatti, A vote for anyone but Ron Paul is a vote for the NWO. Our rights are gone, they have laws on the books and/or executive orders to take over every aspect of the country and the internment camps are being staffed for all who oppose. I‘m guessing you don’t really care about American sovereignty or natural law anyway.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:11pmLoL @ Patty. I would rather lose with Ron and keep my integrity intact than to sell out to the lesser of two POS’s named Obama and Romney. Romney will corn hole this country just as badly.
Romney In 2009: “Glad To Hear” Obama “Copying” RomneyCare
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/05/romney_in_2009_glad_to_hear_obama_copying_romneycare.html
Romney on abortion: MULTIPLE choice (defend Romney, go ahead)
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2gwbGnti5A
MCDAVE
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:41pm@ PATTYHENREY YOUR argument is dying of constipation…When you make a purchase do you buy the second worse product on the market?
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:49pmQPWILLIE – ” It’s impossible to vote for Ron Paul”
Watch me write him in them. I don’t see any difference between the two fascists running now: Romney and Obama. I won’t be voting for a damned fascist. Romney is nothing more than a wall street groupie who gives lip service to liberty, when he will undoubtedly sponsor more corporate welfare and continuing to bankrupt the country. You think you really have a choice? You have the guy who built the template for state run healthcare versus the guy who sponsored national healthcare. Both are fascists, totalitarianists, control freaks, and both will do everything they can to make sure the wars continue and the treasury borrows more money from the federal reserve.
I do live in Realty QP, you live in your television set tuned to faux news. Fascists for President 2012
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:08pmI prefer Ron Paul, however, if he turns out to be a long shot (ify) then I can not give him my vote. At this point my only agenda is getting rid of Obama and his deminion. The only point to giving your vote to someone with no chance at winning is to say that if I can’t have it my way let the Country go down.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:36pmIt’s called having conviction. What has voting for the lesser of the two evils gotten us? Tell me, what has it gotten us besides more of the same?
What will make the difference, maybe not this election cycle, is if they lose knowing they could have “won” had they not disenfranchise Ron Paul’s base supporters.
Romney, even if it manages to win which I am not convinced he will, will not fix anything. In fact, I believe he will do more harm than good. I believe the inevitable destruction of our currency and economy is looming very close in our future. Having that collapse happen under a Republican or so called Conservative will only rally the Liberal Socialist against capitalism. Romney is being painted as the champion of capitalism and free market. When it collapses under his administration, what do you think will happen to our free markets? To American capitalism? To our very freedom?
No thank you. I will not live my life knowing I compromised and was part of the overall problem. I am too awake for that. The collapse is coming. I will not be a part of either party as it goes down. We will collapse without DRASTIC change, the kind that Ron Paul has the conviction to work towards. Anyone else will not come close.
I hope I’m wrong but I doubt it….
Report Post »Quagmir
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:11pmAmerican Soldier (Separated)
I am with you on being tired of voting for the best for the worst. This may end up being the most important election in history. I will set aside my discomfort for Romney because I dont know how he will be in office because I do know one thing…How Obama will be in office. If that is not enough to scare you and the others who say they will vote for Paul or not at all then we as a nation deserve everything we get over the next 4 years from Obama.
I will stand my ground in 4 years and not vote just as I did not vote for McCain(or Obama) last round. I am willing to lose this battle to win the war. Congressional votes are the key to keeping both Obama and Romney in check. I am in Missouri and have to kick Claire McCaskill out of office. This is my fight. The options are in for president. You are for or against Obama, now vote to keep them both in check.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:23pmI‘d rather the devil I know then the devil I don’t know.
It should scare you that Romney is no difference, in core principles, then Obama. But this time, the failed policies that Romney will be associated with will also be associated with Republicans, Conservativism, Capitalism and Free Markets. Those in the know will know that nothing he does will actually be for free market (Bernake is doing a good job? No need to worry about the Fed Res?) but because he symbolizes that side of the coin, it will be blamed. Now imagine the next devil that we won’t know, who’s going to fill the void when Anti-President Romney becomes worse than Anti-President Bush in 2016. We got Obama the first time around, what will we get this time?!
This is like saying your willing to surrender the battle in order for peace, peace under the rule of continued tyranny. Enough is enough.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:52pm@Quagmir, You know exactly how Romney will be in office. Obama’s socialist domestic policy, Bush‘s murdering policy and he’ll hand over the keys to the country to the UN like everyone else since Reagan.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:05pmi was at a event back in 2008 when Ron Paul was there.
Report Post »He gave a great speach up to a point, then in turned into
what I call an old used car salesman. He started to
kick the tires and bang the hood. He when off the deep
end talking about leagalizeing drugs. At this point he lost me.
KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:11pmWhy do you need a law to stop yourself from doing drugs?
Can’t you quit on your own?
Report Post »marine249
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:23pm@KID
Report Post »never started.
DEFCON4
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:32pm@Kid, Wake Up ! Sounds like, you don’t have a clue about drug addiction and how it destroys lives. Not, only the abusers life, but those who care and love for them. And, let’s not forget those lives directly affected by the constant wrong-doings of Drug Abbusers; Who can not quit on their own!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:32pmmarine249
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:23pm
@KID
never started.
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Would you have started if drugs were legal?
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:59pmDEFCON4
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:32pm
@Kid, Wake Up !
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Oh, grow up DEFCON4…………you don’t need a law to stop yourself from sniffing gas or hitting yourself in the head with a hammer or eating too many french fries, so why do you need a law to stop yourself from doing drugs?
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:11pmDefcon:
Drug abusers most certainly can quit on their own. I know from personal experience. What personal experience do you have?
Kid Charlemagne
“Would you have started if drugs were legal?”
This, right here, exactly. So many robots out there who think that if drugs were federally decriminalized that all of the sudden there would be a drug epidemic. News flash, robots – Ron Paul would have no power to legalize drugs. The only thing he might be able to do is get them federally decriminalized, which would end the impotent and expensive war on drugs and leave the power in the hands of the states, which is exactly where it belongs. Just like the federal government has no business outlawing alcohol, neither do they have any business outlawing drugs.
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:21pmDefcon
Nicotine is a far more addictive substance than most drugs, including cocaine and heroin, and perhaps even crystal methamphetamine; yet people quit smoking all…the…time.
People like you should really get educated on things that you obviously know jack @!#?@! about before you go spouting your mouth off and embarrassing yourself. That’s just a tip from me to you. No charge.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:46pm@Marine249 and did you not do drugs only because it was illegal? Or did you make a personal, conscious choice not to?
@DEFCON4
I have no misconception to the damage drug addition can do to ones personal life. Let me emphasis PERSONAL LIFE. Much like alcohol addiction. Remind me again, is alcohol still legal? What purpose does alcohol have other than to change your chemical balance and make you do things that you otherwise wouldn’t have done? Yet it is still legal.
It it neither my place or my responsibility to care about your family nor the family of drug abusers. It is purely the responsibility of those that….. shockingly…. care and love for them.
“Constant wrong-doing of drug abusers.”
I have a perfect method for dealing with those types. My Springfield .40 Subcompact that I carry on my waist won’t discriminate against them. My 12 gauge Mossberg that I keep in my living room closet can teach them a few things. My AR15 that I keep locked and loaded under my bed might have something to say. And if I don’t feel like wasting the ammunition, I can always call the police. I have plenty of methods of dealing with those wrong-doers.
Trust me, a double tap from my .40 will insure that they quit doing drugs and committing crimes.. Permanently.
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:11pm@ Kupo, Thanks for not charging me for the snipe. I guess, I’ve spent too much time in the inner cities looking and hearing the destuctiveness of hard-core drug abuse. I don’t find that embarassing or being uneducated on the topic.
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:38pmDefcon
And this just goes to show that the war on drugs is useless. People will do drugs, just like they did alcohol during Prohibition, whether or not the law is on their side. Why pump billions and billions of dollars into a program that is toothless? Why not let the states take on the problem on their own terms? Do you really think that any state out there is going to start legalizing heroin and meth? No, they won’t. But many of them would legalize weed, which really needs to be legalized. We are hemorrhaging money by locking people up for these offenses.
I see far more lives destroyed by the horrible choices people make regarding their diets and personal (lack of) activity. Obesity is FAR more of an epidemic than drug use is, yet all of us (rightfully) lambaste people like Bloomberg and Moochelle for trying to infringe on our personal choices in those areas. The double standard among conservatives is blindingly obvious.
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:57pm@Kupo, Your last response I agree 100%. The States should take on the problem and Bloomberg and Moochelle should stay out of Our lives !
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:23pmDefcon
I’m glad we agree on something. And I do apologize for being somewhat terse before. It‘s a personal flaw when I’m speaking online sometimes, although I maintain that anyone who wants to quit drugs can do so. I was a very heavy drug user for a number of years. I lived quite some distance from my family so they really didn’t have any clue what was going on. I’d estimate that at least half of my paycheck went to my “extracurricular activities”. I regularly did crystal meth, cocaine, ecstasy (did this one 3 or 4 nights a week), and weed, as well as psychedelics like acid and mushrooms, for years. I was also a very heavy smoker – between 1 and 2 packs a day. I quit all on my own, no problems, 100% cold turkey. Cigarettes were by far the hardest to boot out of all of them.
Regarding drug legalization, I am somewhat conflicted on whether or not hard drugs should be legalized, but I absolutely believe that the federal government should get its nose out of it – and that’s all that Ron Paul has ever said.
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:05pm@ Kupo, After your last personal response, there is no need to apologize ! I was no angel myself,however I needed the discipline of the Marine Corps, to excise the demons. Congratulations on your own Triumph! Friend……..stay strong.
Report Post »toiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:02pmRon Paul’s act is getting tired, and so are his supporters. I don’t even know why he was a Republican nominee. He’s not a Republican. If he were honest, he’d run as a Libertarian.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:05pmIt truly is a sad day when government-run healthcare has become an integral part of the GOP platform:
“Mitt Romney First Introducing the Individual Mandate at Heritage in Jan. 2006″
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:10pm@toiletclogga
Report Post »Yea, you are right. Libertarian Party is closer to the Constitution than the Republicans. That is not a good thing. If you want to banish the Constitutionalists in the Republican party because they demand better candidates – then you will lose to the democrats every single time
toiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:12pmYes it is. Once there, both parties embrace it because it’s there to stay. Look at Medicare/Medicaid and that fiasco. Time to get back to Conservatism, and not nutty Conservatism like Ron Paul espouses. You do need some government.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:14pmYeah I agree, Pauls act is getting old. Were going to run out of money and go bankrupt blah blah blah, what a crazy old man. Romney knows the fed is doing a great job and all we need is a little more debt, maybe QE3 or another TARP. Paul thinks hes so smart, just because hes been warning us about the fiscal cliff for over a decade and has predicted the mess were in today before any politician. Well Romney ran the Olympics, thats close enough for me.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:26pmtoiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:12pm
Yes it is. Once there, both parties embrace it because it’s there to stay. Look at Medicare/Medicaid and that fiasco.
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I’m sorry……..but there was NO Medicare/Medicaid back when George Washington was President…….
Report Post »toiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:55pmIt’s 2012, not 1786. Back when Washington was President, people starved.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:09pm@toiletclogga
Right, so lets tear up that old dusty Constitution while we are at it. It was from a different time and no longer is relevant, right?
By the way, you dont believe all that bible stuff do you? They didnt even have electricity back then
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:24pm@toilet
So you want government feeding people? Oh and people are starving today also. Government isnt the answer. The churches and charity are the answer to hungry people.
Report Post »kcsparky
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:43pmRon….you had your shot and lost. Get over it and stop being a divisionist!! You are just helping that idiot Obama now by pulling stunts like this. This country can’t afford another 4 years of the Obamanation, so move on and get back to business.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:07pmYes, we must not allow Obama another four, we need to replace him with someone who will continue the same policies of central planning of the economy. We need to shut up every Republican or Libertarian that continues to bring attention to the Fed and the massive debt.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:08pmso you dont think anybody should speak at the convention besides Mitt Romney?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:12pmLMAO… Divisionist. I knew we were getting the same crap over and over from both sides before I knew who Ron Paul was.
Report Post »TheeAgnostic
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:15pmSo, a (r)epublican, getting in front of a group of fellow Republicans, and talking about returning to Contitional values, persoonal Liberty and sound money, is now considered a “divisionist?” Makes me wonder what side YOU are really on.
Report Post »toiletclogga
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:30pmWe’re on the side of sanity. The Republican nominee doesn’t need the Paulie votes. Tell your leader to show some courage, and run as he is; a Libertarian!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:02pmLMAO @toiletclogga… Courage?! My guy went to war when he was called up. Where did yours go? Oh yeah Paris. Courage my ass. Courage means standing up for what you believe in knowing your message isn’t what people want to hear. RP has been doing it for 30 freaking years. Courage doesn’t mean passively accepting the snap of the latex glove of freedom. What kind of idiot believes courage is just going with the flow of a morally bankrupt society?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:43pm“Still, he said it’s not up to him what his supporters do: “I don’t dictate anything to anybody.”
Like Iran not getting their hands on a Nuke?
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:56pmMonk we know you like to dictate orders to everyone. Hell that must be the same geen that whenever we go to war, you feel powerfull. Lol I dont have that one. We get none of the spoils but yet you still want more war. Thats the bakers army buddy. Not ours. Libya Iraq Afghanstian. Just all part of the plan.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:00pmWhy would Iran need a nuclear weapon anyway when they have something much more powerful that they can use?…
If you do the math, then you’ll figure it out….
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:04pm“I don’t dictate anything to anybody.”
Report Post »No, he just lets Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell program their brains with a bunch of garbage so they’ll cast write-in votes to help 0bama get reelected.
The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:10pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
I just happen to be very worried about Iran getting a Nuke. I listen to what their leaders say and have no doubt they mean to destroy America any way they can. One EMP could put us back into the stone age and then nothing else would much matter. I’m voting “against” anyone who doesn’t think this threat is real. Neither Obama nor Paul care if Iran becomes a Nuclear power.
It’s just that simple.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:11pm@The-Monk
Report Post »I dont get it – could you explain
KC1
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:18pmMonk
Report Post »I agree with one point of yours and its that your thought process is simple.
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:24pmMonk,
Thats a fair statement coming from someone in your position. Did you know that when the last Bush was in office Iran and the US were having regular meetings discussing Iran and nuclear energy. At one point Condi Rice had a agreement on paper that the US would not impose any sanctions and would help them build civilian nuclear programs as long as they agreed to let the UN and IAEA do regular checks. Iran agreed. They signed the papers.This was all before the current mad man running Iran was in power. But in the 11th hour after Iran agreed and signed the Paper Bush and Chenny told Condi to pull the agreement. After that Iran elected the mad man cause the former president said the US sold them out. How sick is that? Our relationship with Iran could be good right now. Everything you hear about Iran in the news is manipulated by our Dept of War aka the State Dept. Thats what I mean about your position. Please read these articles.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-04-19/vanden-brook-locker-propaganda/54419654/1
http://www.infowars.com/pentagon-misinformation-ops-target-press-and-public/
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:28pm@The-Monk
Report Post »Do you know EMP and Nuke are two different weapons? I believe EMPs are cheap and available….Shall we go to war with every country we dont like because of EMP’s?
KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:43pmThe-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:10pm
I’m voting “against” anyone who doesn’t think this threat is real.
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It’s not real.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:18pmA nation wide emp would be impressive. Doubt it exists but it would be cool. I am also very concerned about aliens attacking and zombie invasions. We should spend any extra money we can borrow on defending us from those three things.
EMP, aliens, zombies means we are so screwed. I am actually thinking the zombie invasion is more likely to happen than Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Egypt, Yemen, or Venezuela being able to attack us. I mean really, have you seen the Walking Dead?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:35pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
I didn’t vote for Bush. I didn’t like him at all. Actually, I didn’t like either choice so I sat that one out. (sat both out)
Now that I know who Obama and his staff is, by their very words and actions I’m voting “anybody but Obama” and RP is not going to win the RNC.
@KC!
Report Post »You said, “your thought process is simple”. Well, you don’t know me. I’m not allowed to post what I know or my theories here because they are too close to the truth. I have to be “simple” here.
The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:49pm@KidCharlemagne
Come on kid….. a link to an article from 02/03/2006.
Really, Feb 2006? 6 1/2 old? Now that’s a joke.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:02pm@soybomb315
“The-Monk Do you know EMP and Nuke are two different weapons?”
One small Nuke set off 200 miles above Kansas would act like a giant EMP capable of taking down the entire electrical grid in the USA. It would take many (4 or 5) normal EMP’s to do the same thing and they would have to be placed at different locations.
From what I’ve read, Iran wants that “one shot” to take us out. And I don’t think China and Russia would do anything to stop them.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:11pm@The-Monk
There are lots of countries that would like to see us taken down….
Venezuela
Russia
Iran
Rest of Middle East
China
N Korea
Europe
Progressives
You want to go to war with all them?
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:38pmMonk,
Way to completly miss the point. Before I call you a hypocrite for saying us Paul supporters who wont vote for Mittens, will be voting for Obama. We were talking about Iran. I was just giving you a timeline if when all that happened. You have nothing to say about all that I wrote? Nothing to say about the military industerial complex? Nothing to say about the Pentagon using neocons to push a agenda of emperialism and nation building? You are being used because of your fear of muslims. Im so above this false left vs right Obama vs whoever. When you wanna think like a big boy and see things much clearer, then maybe we can debate going to war.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:14pmWillie, you could have had him as your nominee. Then you wouldn’t have had to worry about write-in or division. It would be an almost guaranteed removal of Obama from office at this point.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:50pm@soybomb315
True, there are a lot of Countries that want to “take us down” but, not a single one on your list has a Religion that mandates it to please a God or to bring back some 12th Imam prophet. You are aware of this aren’t you?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:58pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
When you can say that you have worked in the “dark places” within that 5 sided building in Va and other places in DC; please feel free to have a dialog with me. But, dialogs like that will be blocked by the mods here so what’s the use? You have no idea what I know….. all I can say here is that this threat is real.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:16pmOh so your a government spook? Well im sure you have been compartmentalized like everyone who works in the Pentagon or NSA or CIA. I know about MK Ultra and Darkstar. I know about operation paper clip. The threat is real? LOL like Amwar al alaki is a bad muslim right? Haha.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-6978200.html
You see, every major conflict since WW2 was caused and brough on by US. Gulf of Tonkin never happened. Saddam never threw babies out of incubators. And 911 was an inside job. So you think you know, you only know what youve been told. We funded the taliban on record the military grows the opioum in Afghanstian and then ships it to America. Al Qaeda…more like Al CIA Da.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-b3pB6M7s
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:44pm@The-Monk
“True, there are a lot of Countries that want to “take us down” but, not a single one on your list has a Religion that mandates it to please a God or to bring back some 12th Imam prophet. You are aware of this aren’t you?”
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesnt modern day christian rapture theory require war in the middle east in order to bring the return of Jesus? More specifically, doesnt that theory require christians to be fighting against non-christians?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:03pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
You are such a tool and an idiot. Do you believe what the Pentagon tells CBS or that CBS would report the truth about what was said?
And check out your 2nd link. Regardless of the title someone associated with it you should actually WATCH it. The Military were buying up the tools the harvest the Opium so the farmers could not and were giving them seeds to grow other crops.
Geez, your such a loser. Did you think that you could fool me by posting links with false titles? You are surely part of Obama’s campaign and a big fan of Jim Carney. LOL ULSFB
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:31pm@soybomb315
“…doesnt modern day christian rapture theory….”
Please tell me the ratio of Christians who are not “christian rapture theory” believers to those who are not.
This is another false belief. Yes, there are some nut job Christians who believe this nonsense but for the most part (and I do mean the majority of Christians) do not believe this. There are nut jobs in every religion.
But here’s the kicker Soy, those few nut jobs are not in charge of an entire Country with massive resources, trying to obtain Nukes and promising the destruction of America. Is this starting to make any sense?
Check out the second link WAKEUPUSA2012 posted for me, what he said about it and what the title says. Tell me if he is lying to me. Here’s the link;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-b3pB6M7s
Check it out and tell me if he’s being truthful with me.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:38pm@soybomb315
EDIT;
“Please tell me the ratio of Christians who are not “christian rapture theory” believers to those who are not.”
Sorry, that was supposed to read;
“”Please tell me the ratio of Christians who are not “christian rapture theory” believers to those who are”.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:42pm@The-Monk
The percentage who agree with the modern day rapture theory (left behind series) are huge! I would say at least 50%. Look, our boy Glenn Beck has had John Haggae (spelling) A LOT lately. I could go on about how the religous nuts of Iran are in power because we overthrew their democratically elected guy in the 50′s and installed the US-sanctioned tyrant (who was later overthrown by the religous nuts – what we call “blowback”)…..But you dont want to hear about that
I dont know about the link – I’m not really interested in your dirty work. However, there is no denying that most of the wars we have fought in since WWII have been wars of choice (chosen by the power elites) and not necessity.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:35am@soybomb315
You need to do a little (a lot) of homework. The Shah Of Iran replaced…. his Father during World War II after an Anglo-Soviet invasion forced the abdication of his father. (Forgive that it’s wiki, I can’t find my other source)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi
As for elections in Iran check this out;
http://tehrantimes.com/component/content/article/95975
As for my dirty work… what does that mean?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:50am@soybomb315
“The percentage who agree with the modern day rapture theory (left behind series) are huge! I would say at least 50%”
Don’t say (or as most people call that as a “guess”) prove it. Show me some real statistics. If not for me do it for yourself ! Aren’t you even curious whether or not you have the facts correct? My God man, stand up and defend yourself with facts….. not childish guesses.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:57am@soybomb315
Let me show you what your logic sounds like to me about that 50% thingy.
All of Ron Paul’s family are Christians. If 50% of Christians are those rapture people you were talking about then 50% of RP’s family are rapture people. Sounds stupid right? It is…..
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:04am@soybomb315
Goodnight, I’m leaving this post till tomorrow.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:37amLol how about the little fact that since the invasion opioum production around the world has exploded by 100s of times.
http://reinep.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/before-the-us-invaded-afghanistan/
Ill say it agin. You think you know, but you have no idea. The bankers have hijacked this country. That military does not work for the people. Now you can come back with some cute witty response, but it wont change the fact that im right more than im wrong about this stuff. Ive never heard of jim carney. Do you mean Jay Carney? No need to call me a loser brother, im just trying to spread the word.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:57amIs that video just total nonsense monk? Is it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/world/asia/28intel.html?_r=2
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20050614&articleId=91
http://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/afghanistan-troops-guarding-the-poppy-fields/
Total nonsens.
Your like a child. If I havent heard it then its not true. Thats what you sound like.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/04/afghanistans-opium-crop
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/14/the-u-s-russia-afghanistan-and-drugs/
The elites have it figured out. They start wars, invade countrys, take over natural resources (opioum) turn a blind eye as it is shiped over seas to America, your kid uses it, your kid gets locked up, yor kid works for 35 cents a day. Lol military industerial complex, prison industerial complex, hell I call it the NWO.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:45amNever seen a poll but the left behind series of books has been really popular, GOP leaders have espoused it, and most churches/members i have seen support it because it is a simple interpretation of revelation.
You just like to argue
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:54ami hope they get one so they can defend themselves.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:38pmOnly problem I see is that many people might be swayed by his words and will write him in or not vote at all…maybe he’ll even take the reaction to his speech as a sign to run as a 3rd party.
Which we all know will = a vote for Obama.
Obama supporters would never vote for RP in a million years…so what he does will not have an effect on how many votes Obama gets. But those that would have voted AGAINST Obama, by voting FOR Romney, who instead vote for Ron Paul will siphon votes away from Romney and aid Obama. All for some romantic illusion that Paul might win…or some shortsighted nonsense about voting for who you believe in…”win or lose.”
It’s no different than when Horowitz runs for the green party with zero chance of winning and just wastes his supporters money for some face time in front of the camera.
They might as well vote for Randolph Scott, John Wayne or Ronald Reagan…none (unfortunately) have a shot at winning…but hey…you voted for who you believe in. That you did nothing but aid the “enemy” means nothing to them.
I really wish they’d get rid of the electoral college and go with the popular vote.
Keep your eyes on the ballots of our men & women serving overseas. The majority do not back Obama…we’ll see if their ballots get lost or delayed accidentily on purpose.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:04pmThey might as well vote for Randolph Scott, John Wayne or Ronald Reagan…none (unfortunately) have a shot at winning…but hey…you voted for who you believe in. That you did nothing but aid the “enemy” means nothing to them.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’ll gladly speak for myself. A vote for Governor Romney is a vote for my enemy, as would be a vote for President Obama. Governor Romneys’ big government, big spending, status quo record is every bit as scary to me as is President Obamas’ record.
Look at the last 5 candidates to whom your party has given the nomination. Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and now presumably Romney. Who is the Constitutionally sound candidate in that group? If you are satisfied with voting for who the R’s tell you you can vote for, rather than as you put it, someone you can believe in, then great. I’m not.
Continue with your trite talking points (a vote for X is really a vote for Y) to the peril of our Republic. Most of the colonists in the years just before the Revolutionary War didn’t want to fight, and in fact did not fight, for Independence. But they got in line for the liberties pretty quickly after others, who were willing to stand up, won the day. Be counted or be conquered my brother. Peace.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:29pm@The_Almighty_Creestof
Report Post »The only way to prevent the ‘ron paul and write-in’ vote is for Mitt Romney to move closer to the Constitution and the founders…..Is Romney willing to do that? If not, then Romney has made his choice – dont blame us for his bad decision
NoNannyState4me
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:54pmWhy is it that people get nightmares over Paul, I feel bad for folks with this mindset. Ron isn’t going to run 3rd party, here he is saying it it an article right here on theBlaze. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ron-paul-on-third-party-run-i-just-dont-want-to-do-it/
What is different here, is that Ron is honest and stands true to his word. I know many here want to find extremely weak examples that say otherwise while ignoring the blatant in-your-face flip flops that “I was for abortion before I was against it” Romney.
It will have nothing to do with people who support Paul when Romney loses. We are a con-flux of people that came from every standard in life. Rich, Poor, black, white, brown, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, worthy, valuable, ready for some real change. We even bicker amongst ourselves over the same stupid things you all bicker about. We have clicks, and the popular crowd and the back stabbers blah blah blah. One thing we all agree on is Liberty and much smaller government.
We can’t stand Obama. The problem for you is, we think just as lowly of Romney and so did most people here when they were cheering for Santorum and Bachman.
Don’t Tread On Me
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:54pm@SOYBOMB
It’s too late for promises, Soy. Governor Romneys’ record is his record. Are you willing to bet the preservation of our Union on a promise made in the heat of a Presidential race that, in this case, would be one hundred and eighty degrees from what his record suggests is the truth? Don’t be fooled.
If they can’t see that the effete candidates that they continually offer up are the real problem then so be it. Let the R‘s blame us just like the D’s blame George Bush. Same crybabies; different label. Peace.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:06pm@cykonas
Yea – i’m not worried about it because i know for a FACT Romney will not try to get the Ron Paul vote. Romney is a pure populist and you can see it in every speach he makes.
Just trying to show all the so-called conservatives the fallacy of their logic….
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:58amSorry, but do any of you RP followers actually believe he can win if he were to run as 3rd party? Are you really so deluded that simple math escapes you? How many votes would have to go to RP, not just from undecided/swing/“I hate both the other guys”…but votes from hardcore Democrats & hardcore Republicans? Huh? HOW FREAKING MANY?
RP has no chance in H-E-double toothpicks, in winning the nomination for either major party, and even less of a chance in winning as the nominee from another party. NONE!!!!
Simple math.
So your RP vote is just being thrown away for the sake of “voting your heart.” Great…meanwhile, your vote COULD have helped decide the election for whichever of the other 2 you would prefer over the other. So…is it any wonder why so many anti-Obama people want you to face reality and vote for Romney? If for no other reasons than A) repeal Obamacare & B) A Republican president with a majority in the house & senate will actually get things done.
By the by…ask yourself if RP would ever go around the constitution and appoint czars, change the constitution through executive order, etc.
Then ask yourself, why does the party opposite that of the president fight so hard (in every administration) to stall and make the president look bad?
Figure those two out & then ask yourself how much RP would accomplish as president if he won as a 3rd party candidate.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:44amRepublicans can get our vote by nominating a person more receptive to the ideas of the founders and the Constitution. It is that simple. If the republicans do not – then we will not follow. It is their decision and completely within their control. We are not sheep that blindly follow a political party
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:21pmThat’s fine…but if Obama wins again, keep your mouth SHUT from now on about what he does.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:31pmGenerally speaking, we do not complain about Obama – we complain about GOVERNMENT.
Obama’s policies are pretty much a continuation from Bush and Bush was a continuation of Clinton. The idea of progressivism is the enemy, not individuals. Progressivism is all over Romney’s past
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:38pmI don‘t know about Romney but I know I’m very worried. That little megalomaniac and his glarry eyed robots are trying to throw this election to 0bama and that would certainly be the end of our country.
He doesn’t just want to speak. He wants to create chaos at the convention.
Ron Paul is working for George Soros to reelect 0bama.
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mtsnj
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:39pmIt’s like a Ross Peroism
Report Post »Altair
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:40pmAgreed. Egotistical spoiler.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:41pmhahahahahahahahahahahahahah when was the last time anyone took anything you said seriously?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:45pmSoros is in the CFR with all the owners of the media every major corportation, etc. who silenced RP during the primaries, so your argument doesn’t make sense. There’s a bunch of globalists statists, (both R‘s and D’s) against one little 76 year old nationalist free marketeer who doesn’t want to give the country our founders fought for back. You can’t possibly be THAT stupid. My god.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:51pmGive me a politician who works with people on ideas he agrees with them on anyday over Mitten the Flip Flop. Ron Paul has been real since day one. Real to himself. He doesnt sell out like Mittens does, or hell like any other person in office does. No Republican is better than him on financial issues, no republican comes close to him on civil liberties issues. But I forget you dont care about things like that. You and “the blaze” since day one of this past election have dones everything you could do make known your hate for Paul and your hate for personal liberty. You continue to go with the establishment. You got your way. This country is screwed. Your going to get everything you ever wanted and more. Mittens will continue with the same foreign policy of Bush and Obama. The police state will get closer and closer. Instead of talking trash about Paul you neocons need to worry about other stuff. Like the new UN small arms traety coming down the tube. Banning of our second amendment (possibly).
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qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:55pm@justangry
Report Post »Well heck, I thought my comment would suddenly make you come to your senses and see what’s actually going on. What a surprise that you’re still brainwashed!!!!!
soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:13pm@qpwillie
Report Post »No worries – since the republicans will surely dismiss the ideas of the founders and Constittution, most of us will be voting for Gary Johnson in November anyways.
justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:22pm@Willy, I wouldn’t expect anything more than dodge deflect and name calling from you.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:27pmQPW, I very seldom get into the dirt in this forum, but in this case I’m going to make an exception. Your comment, “Ron Paul is working for George Soros to reelect 0bama” is one of the most asinine comments that I’ve ever seen in a Blaze posting.
You may not like Rep. Paul which is, obviously, your right. But I dare you to present one shred of evidence from Rep. Pauls’ long voting record that would suggest he can be bought by anyone, much less George Soros. Heck, his own party can’t even buy or coerce him to vote the way they think he should a lot of times.
Again, you’re free to think he is a bad candidate. You can even be of the opinion that he’s a megalomaniac if you want, although I disagree with you. He is the consummate common man. But to suggest that he’s complicit in throwing this election to President Obama with the help of George Soros is, well, frankly, delusional.
I doubt you are going to respond to this but if you do, please don’t give me any infantile video clips to watch or silly wiki links. Bill numbers, year of the vote, synopsis of the bill and Rep. Pauls’ vote. Nada mas. Peace.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:37pm@justangry
Report Post »Ron Paul wasn’t silenced during the primaries. I heard him and everybody else heard him. Why didn’t you hear him?
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:46pmRight qpwillie
There was no campaign to quite him in the primarys. Lol your so smart. Karl Rove never said we control reality by what we put on TV. Right QP. God this country is GONE.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:11pmThat’s bogus. They attempted to smear him, that only made him more popular. Then the media blacked him out, and everyone who pays any attention to what’s been going on know this.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:50amOh and Willy, I‘d gladly be brainwashed by Lew Rockwell’s site. He has some awesome contributors, with great credentials which is FAR more than I can say about this site or any of the MSM.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:36pmThe entire GOP establishment is scared of Ron Paul!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:35pmIsn‘t it kinda’ obvious why Romney wouldn’t want Ron Paul to speak at the “new” GOP:
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BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:32pmIf Ron Paul speaks the truth and is a man of character, why would any group fear him except the Obama administration? Fear develops out of the belief that someone may or may not expose you for who you really are. CHARACTER IS WHAT MATTERS!
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:30pmI don’t understand why Ron Paul is even in the News any more, he lost it’s over for him. It’s time for him to go away……..
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:39pmGuess what buddy. Ron Paul has planted ideas in the minds of young people all over this country and all over this world. Ideas dont die. So long after Ron Paul has left this earth, his ideas of liberty, limited government, and a financiall system that the people have control over will still be here. And idiot neocons will have to watch themselves. Because whenever one of them is in office and tries to start more wars or tries to prop up the military industerial complex (that Eisenhower warned about) with the taxpayers money. We will be here. To stop you and people like you.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:39pm@BryanB
Report Post »So i presume Santorum, Perry, Gingrich, Bachmann, Cain will not be speaking at the RNC?
BryanB
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:52pmYou Guy’s act like like Ron Paul is the only person in our Government that believes in Liberty and Freedom, and sometimes you even act like Mr.Paul invented Liberity and Freedom.
Ron Paul dose not want to work with-in our system of Government, and that is the Constitution.
If Mr.Paul wanted to work with-in the Constitution, he would have gotten a lot more done in his more the 30 years in Congress.
Ron Paul wants to Dictate through Executive Orders just like President Obama.
Do you Ron Paul supporters have any idea how much money left wing is spending on the Ron Paul campaign ?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/ron-paul-is-still-raising-big-money-but-just-who-is-giving/
Ron Paul is very connected to the far left.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/daniel-greenfield/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/ron-paul-campaign-uses-soros-funded-research/
The only reason Ron Paul is even still in this election,is to help his old Buddy’s George Soros and the National Socialist………….
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:49pm“Do you Ron Paul supporters have any idea how much money left wing is spending on the Ron Paul campaign ?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/ron-paul-is-still-raising-big-money-but-just-who-is-gving/”
Wow, you dont even check your own links. pathetic. Is this ametuer hour? i went to the link and it completely disproves what you are trying to say. The article says Ron Paul is getting more money than anybody else from small, individual donors. Another major chunk is military folks……Wow, you really nailed it with that one
I dont know what you expect us to do as we are still in the primary and OUR candidate has not dropped out like the rest of them….I’m sorry whoever you suppported is no longer in the race, but that is not our problem. Ron Paul has re-ignited the old flames of liberty, Constitution, and freedom which is more than any other candidate in the last 30 years.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:56pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
“Ron Paul has planted ideas in the minds of young people all over this country and all over this world. Ideas dont die”
Let me make one little change and you tell me if I’m wrong. OK….buddy?
“Barack Obama has planted ideas in the minds of young people all over this country and all over this world. Ideas dont die”
What say you….Mr. “Guess what buddy”?
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:02amhahah you can do better than that dude!
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:58am@soybomb315
There is NO conformation at all that those Campaign Donors are Military Personnel and really in the military or ever have been, no proof at all, and no way to prove it. That Money could have been donated by Terrorist. And since Google was one of the big donors to the Ron Paul campaign, Google could have easily provided names and addresses of people that wouldn’t find out their identities were used. And the only way to really know, is to go through each campaign donors name, and confirm it.
And I guess you missed those Left wing companies that gave the most money. By the way, Entergy Corporation, is a subsidiary of General Electric.
I know you are paid a lot of money to come on here and write. But is it worth your Soul and doing harm to your Country……..
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:59amYea, those “military donations” could have come from terrorists….Just like it MIGHT snow today. Did you listen to Glenn Beck this week? He spent days talking about the democrat tricks of bringing up a subject like Romney’s tax returns and saying things like “well, we dont know – so he could have broken the law”.
Compare the campaign donations for Ron Paul and Romney below. Your claims are baseless and hypocritical. Romney campaign is fueled by the biggest banks (which also fuel Obama)….These are the banks that are sinking our economy. You dont see a problem there?
You mentioned google giving money to Ron Paul – which is his biggest corporate donor at $42,000. However, $42,000 doesnt even land you on Romney’s top 20 list. You talk about general electric, but they gave $135,000 to Romney (more than any of Ron Pauls donors). Your statements are completely idiotic and hypocritical.
If i make sense and you dont like what i say – then i must be a paid plant, right? I’m sorry you have such a small view of the world
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
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CatB
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:29pmWell …. can you blame them .. he sounds like a crazy old uncle that you have to put up with on holidays …. We would be better served if RAND spoke .. get out of the WAY OLD MAN!
OMG 2012 LIBERTY.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:30pmRobamneybush 2012
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:01pmI’m sorry for singling you out, CATB.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:26pmIf he speaks….the delegates for Romney may abbandon him..
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:39pmAnd if Romney‘s delegates are so quick to abandon him then he doesn’t deserve them in the first place.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:38pmRight, because they never bothered to watch any of the record number debates to learn about the positions of the candidates or any of the other speeches they gave before their primaries, and they have no respect for the wishes of the voters they represent, who they assume were all equally uninformed. So, once they are forced to listen to Mr. Paul speak, over two-thirds of them will be so impressed that they will casually disregard their sacred trust to carry out the will of the people and make Ron Paul the surprise presidential nominee, because that was a really good speech, and if anyone had listened to him before, surely they would have all voted for him.
Report Post »Bronco II
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:20pmI think they should let him speak I do agree with some things Ron Paul says why not let us hear it and decide for ouselves if we like and agree or disagree with it that‘s just my opinion on it and I’m not rah rahing for Ron Paul just saying let him have his time if not why not??
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:33pm@THE_MONK
Report Post »None of the rules about the speakers, including the 5 state rule, are hard and fast. It’s collaborative between the candidates campaign staff and the RNC folks. There are some generally accepted rules of etiquette that are usually followed, but in the end it comes down to what the powers that be agree on. Because RP is such an outsider in the party, if he gets a spot at all, it won’t be one of the plum positions. That’s my bet anyway. Peace.
Blazebanned
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:18pmHopefully Paul will move to Guyana, and take his followers with him, and a few cases of koolaid….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:23pmHow many other groups of people do you want out of the country? D**K!
Report Post »tommyg524
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:24pmduh, well….um….we wouldnt need the largest tax increase in the world histroy of the u.s.a. ..IF….daddies boy …skip da loola I dont have to report to duty if I dont want to bushjr. did nt first put us in this position, yes, thats right, bush jr. stuffed shirt W. worked the first bailout…ummmhmm yeah the first one, then because he gave the lowest tax rates in history to the corporations (of whom worked with wallstreet to take us ALL to the poorhouse) we now HAVE TO tweak the taxes in order to just tred water and try to stay afloat. Stupid righties, f’n brainwashed, gays.allofya..specially you son…now back to your mommy..
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:25pmYou have drank the progressive koolaid…why don’t you move? You wouldn’t know the Constitution if it bit you on the a@@…But you think you do, that makes it even worse.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:26pmIf that happened the US military troop numbers would be reduced by about 75%. They would all be living in Guyana. Then who would die for you?
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:32pmWOW! What a great way to rally support for Mitt Romney (who belongs to the controversial Mormon Church that many in the U.S. refer to as a cult and who has now been labeled a racist for his recent NAACP speech) by pointedly mentioning a cult suicide led by Jim Jones (a white man whose “congregation” was made up of mostly black minorities) which took place in Guyana a former U.S. colony established to export freed slaves after the American Civil War.
You, BLAZEBANNED, must be one of those brilliant Romney strategists that we have heard so many good things about.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:52pm@justangry
You seem to know a lot about the Convention rules. I‘d like to ask you a question and I’m being serious and not ridiculing in any way. The article says, “Paul said he hasn‘t heard directly from Romney on whether he’ll be given a spot….”
Is it up to Romney to make that decision? I thought it was the RNC and if RP wins 5 States. Can you tell me what that statement meant? I just don’t know. TIA
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:24pm@The Monk, I don’t know man.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:18pm@justangry
Thanks for reading my post and replying to it. : )
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:21pmNP man, I don’t know squat about the convention rules or RNC rules. I think WestCoastPatriot, Soy and perhaps 3Monkeys are or were delegates. I’m still trying to piece stuff together like most of the rest of us.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:05pmNobody really knows the rules and how they will be applied. I believe this is by design – so that the establishment can dictate things to happen the way they please. It is a convention but it has become more like a deathmarch
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:27pm@ Tommy….you are funny, confused, and incoherent at times but I think we can ferret out your bush Derangement Syndrome problems….lets see…
“duh, well….um….we wouldnt need the largest tax increase in the world histroy of the u.s.a. ..IF….daddies boy …skip da loola I dont have to report to duty if I dont want to bushjr. did nt first put us in this position”
the Bush Tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 actually INCREASED Federal revenues and turned around the 2000 Recession President Clinton left office with but GWB never blamed him for. The average American family KEPT more money and personal wealth increased for 5 years..without 9/11 and the wars, Bush would have run surpluses EVERY year in office but 2007 and 2008.
“stuffed shirt W. worked the first bailout…”
yes, that is true and TRUE Conservatives BLASTED him for it and still do to this day
“he gave the lowest tax rates in history to the corporations”
REALLY?? the average Corporate Tax rate for a business making over $50,000 has been 33% since 2000, even the effective rate after deductions is still 25%
“Stupid righties, f’n brainwashed, gays.allofya..specially you son…now back to your mommy..”
Report Post »sounds like someone is transferring a lot of adolescent angry and homophobia onto others, you might want to seek profession help for that, I am sure with the right meds, if allowed by Obamacare, you will be okay in 15-20 years or until they cancel your benefits…
TrollBane
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:13pmI’d rather vote Paul than Romney.
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:40pmMe to.
Here you can learn about Gle nn Bec k:
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riseandshine
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:09pmRon Paul 2012!!!
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:08pmYentastern is obsessed with Ron Paul.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:04pmHmn>……………………
Report Post »tommyg524
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:04pmThis proof enough that there NEEDS to be financial regulation. We need a check system on abuse. It is also indicative that by early 2012, nothing has changed, there still is no accountability, just a bunch of anemic talk about investigations. In other words, the Fox(Fed’s) is watching the henhouse, and will investigate cousin fox (J.Dimond and all the rest) when he gets a moment.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/#b
Report Post »Paul Revere
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:01pmThe closer we get to the convention the more people are realizing that Ron Pauls message is the answer. We’ve been duped.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:55pmReally ? You guys are sure working overtime. Team Obama.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:10pmRP message is NOT the answer…as with ANY person running…there are good and bad points to what they believe in…why…we are all DIFFERENT!!
Report Post »RP picks and chooses pieces of the Constitution to follow and taut to his supporters who then parrot RP interpretation as being the TRUE intent..but unfortunately that doesn’t hold water when we look to the Founders and their words, not Ronnie’s…
Point – posted all this before…but of course RP supporters just call anyone that questions RP a neo-con, traitor, stupid, tool of the establishment but they never address the facts or the counterpoints being made…wow…seems like a page out of Rules for Radicals by “friend of Lucifer” Saul Alinsky…
1) RP has no integrity. How do we know? He is against income tax as unconstitutional but uses other people’s money from other States (a big State’s Rights guy would never go along with this) by being the earmark KING of TX and one of the top in the GOP. Integrity would DEMAND that you neither USE or VOTE for any earmarks if you REALLY believed, not say “well I am just getting my people their money back” BULL SH!!
2) Coward -Hides behind “it is a 10th Amendment” or “State’s Rights” issue whenever he talks about things he knows over 70% of GOP voters don’t like
3) NO HONOR – George Washington left after 8 years, many other Founders didn’t serve more than 10-15 years AT MOST in any office..RP made it a 30 year career
justangry
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 3:56pmRomney scared? Nah… Brave SOP demonstrated how brave he was hiding in Paris from Charlie.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:14pmlol
yea but his sons attoned for his lack of service by…..campaigning for Mitt Romney
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:31amJUST. Ron was in Texas (having volunteered for the Air Guard) and hiding from Charlie whilst giving physical exams for another few years lest us not forget…
When the war ramped up, and given the chance… Ron Paul speedily hopped like a Texas Jackwabbit to the rear and the safety of our borders. Hence the term for Ron Paul… REMF.
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