Ron Paul Says He Would Not Aid Israel in Military Action Against Iran
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Keeping true to form but breaking with his GOP counterparts, Texas Congressman Ron Paul spoke about the potential of Israeli military action against Iran during CNN’s foreign policy debate Tuesday night, stating that he would not aid Israel if an attack against Iran proved imminent. Paul said he wouldn’t expect such an attack to take place, but if it were to asked: “Why does Israel need our help? We need to get out of their way.”
Paul stated that if Israel wanted to attack Iran “that’s their business, but they should suffer the consequences.” He added that Israel has hundreds of nuclear missiles and thus, “can take care of themselves.”
Former front-runner Herman Cain, on the other hand, said he might help Israel in such scenario, “if the mission and the plan were clear.”
“If Israel had a credible plan that it appeared as if they could succeed, I would support Israel, yes,” Cain said.
“And in some instances, depending upon how strong the plan is, we would join with Israel for that, if it was clear what the mission was and it was clear what the definition of victory was.”
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Comments (550)
AJC1973
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:58pmfrom what i can tell they wouldnt need or request it… so whats the point here?
Report Post »louise
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:03pmthe point of this article is to plant the seed of doubt
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:13pmPaul was one of the lone congressmen to support Israel’s attack on Iraq. He said we needed to mind our own business and get out of their way. All these other guys want to make Israel a puppet for us.
Report Post »Bronco Guy
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:14pmNewt, once again, looked incredibly strong with very innovative and coherent/mature answers. I didn’t see anyone who stood toe to toe with him.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:15pmGreat answer Ron Paul…Israel doesn’t need US help nor want it…BiBi wants us to leave them alone so Israel can determine it’s own path!
Israel bombed Iraq‘s reactor on it’s own….No difference here…And as Ron Paul said, Israel may not even attack Iran!
This was nothing more then beating of the war drums for more war by the progressives!
Intervention=Progressive aggressive foreign policy…
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:19pmSHILL SHILL SHILL YOUR BOAT…
Wait, I posted that SAME message earlier today, funny how the PAST repeats itself…
Report Post »Yo BECKS, Israel does not want NOR need our help. Whats YOUR fetish with them????
louise
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:23pmJMiller..yes
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:24pmFor everyone bashing Paul’s stance on Israel..You might want to view this Glenn Beck Video on Israel.
Report Post »And I do want to point out that I have been told that Paul would help Israel if she asked for it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxxBuNWKgZQ&feature=related#t=7m30s
louise
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:24pmOkie…yes
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:28pmThink about how many countries they talked about tonight. How are they going to fund all these operations overseas?
Not one candidate, other than Paul, has put out a plan to balance the budget while they are still in the white house. There is a reason for that, they plan on increasing our role in the world and that will cost us everything, just like it did Russia.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:32pm@ Okie from.. there is a huge difference in – Israel is very capable and should be willing (they are) to take out their enemies and threats – to standing in that position totally alone with no backing or support from the most poweful (sorry Obama in spite of your efforts today we are still thus) country / military in the world
In other words – Israel can and will defend herself with or with out our “approval” We need to let the rest of the world know that so you do to Israel – you do to the US and we will not tolerate reprisals against Israel. Attacks against Israel should be clearly understood as the same as an attack against the US.
Let’s face it – there are only 2 really free places left – Israel & the US. The foundation of real freedom from tyranny only exists in the foundation of the most High – the God of Abraham, Jacob, Isaac & Jesus
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:45pmWhy don’t we just get it over with and call ourselves the United Nations of America.
Move over U.N, the good ole U.N.A is here to stay. We will dictate to all, we will force our citizens(everyone in the world) to support who we support. Forget about charity, we will just take it from you by force.
Some of you poorer countries, don’t worry, we will force the people of other nations to help you out. And when we say help you out, we mean the leaders of your nation that we hand picked for you. We will tell you when you are safe. Just to be sure, we will monitor everything you do to make sure you don’t say anything derogatory about what we are doing. Have a nice day.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:56pm@Kay
You are wrong.
If Israel as a free Nation decides a neighbor is a threat, then Israel must analyze such threat as if doing so alone. That is proper war strategy. In war, you never depend or rely on anyone.
No-Israel is not our State nor is it our territory. If we a bigger country tell the world what you do to Israel you do to the US, that could and probably will give Israel a thought to do as they decide and possibly become more aggressive when they normally would not be without our unlimited support. Saying a stupid statement like that actually hurts Israel. Too much confidence…
Britain is more free then Israel. In Britain you can worship whatever religion you’d like. Get a clue. The God of Abraham sent His Son…Anyone who rejects such Son is not of the Father. Period. Going to war on Religion is not a foreign policy, it’s a fake religion and not of God.
Report Post »ronpierce1
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:56pmso..we now know terrorists are operating out of Mexico right ?..the front runners told us tonite, so..according to beck and the front runners policy, we now start bombing Mexico, and if one of those rascals slips into Texas, maybe Dallas, well by golly we just have to root them out with B52′s, but its ok because if we kill innocent neighbors we will reimburse the survivors for the loss of their loved ones, its all good !..perfect policy beck !, remember men, this is a war on terror
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:58pm@kaydeebeau
The US is no longer free. Have you been to an airport or looked up at a street light camera lately?
Wake up people!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:04am@ Okie Britain has religious freedom – really – do you not read the news?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:07am@ vindex – yes I realize our gov’t is trying its damnest to try to make us not free – I have not nor will I relinquish my God given rights to anyone – I do not concede this fight
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:20am@Kay
Been to Britain 5 times I’m quite aware of their freedoms.
Your point?
Report Post »Founding Father2
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:40amThis debate will turn so many people off of Ron Paul. The guy blamed the US and then said we haven’t been attacked. He is a loon. Don’t believe me, see where he said we haven’t been attacked: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/paul_not_attacked.html
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:40amThe point is very simple and quite clear. Ronnie P is completely out of touch with reality -bumbling -stumbling, incoherent, and confused. His foreign policy would work fine if the US was located on the moon. His approach to completely ignore the rest of the world and the extremists who want to kill us is beyond absurd. Paul is clearly in la-la land. All you Paulbutz should take a good hard look at how nuts your boy is.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:47am@Louise
Great posts….Stand in truth and do not yield! Keep up the good fight for Liberty!
Ron Paul supporters:
Stand in Truth…Simply point out intervention is an aggressive foreign policy of Progressives which began under Wilson. Aggression is opposite of Conservative. Point this out when confronted by so called ‘conservatives’ calling for more war. Be respectful and beat them and expose them on their Progressive policies. Expose our aggression thru this progressive foreign policy is the problem and causes a reaction which leads to more aggression.
Progressives=Eugenics=Evil…
Keep up the good fight and stand in truth!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:52am@Founding Father2 who supports Mitt Progressive Romney
Before you call someone a “loon” look in the mirror…A ‘loon’ changes positions every other day because he can’t remember what he says when speaking out both sides of his mouth!
Here is a list of Romney flip flops just to show whom the ‘loon’ is:
-For cap n trade, now against it
Report Post »-Pro Choice, now Pro Life
-Romneycare, now obamacare is wrong
-For Auto Bailouts, then against it
-For campaign spending limits, now against it
-For Tarp and now against it
-Against Captial gains tax cut, now for them
-For stem cell research and now against it
-For Amnesty, now against it
JJ Coolay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:55amWow… kind of surprised by the non-chalant attitude from people here.
Report Post »Israel is a major ally with the US.
Whether they ask for our support or want it, we should be at least willing to throw our support behind them.
ashestoashes
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:09amII just heard Paul say that we should not go to war without a declaration from the US Congress..So I believe that if Israel really needed us…I don’t think that their would be any problem..I stand with Israel also and I do not believe that we should ever be sending any aide to any other countries. I particularly find it appalling that we would send money to Israel’s enemies or build them up militarily which is what we have been doing.
Report Post »sweetconcern
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:28amHere is Dr Pauls new song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puyV00aGj54&feature=player_em..
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:43am@ founding father,
Report Post »nowhere did Dr Ron Paul balme american people. He stated the obvious fact that when you invade other countries and send in the cia to undermine their authority it makes us less safe. And since you lsck a few braincells to comprehend that fact let me point it out in another way. If i went to your house and kicked in the front door and decided i was going to hang out in your livingroom and over turn your furniture because I could would you let me stay there without trying to get me out somehow? NO you wouldn’t, and just because i might weigh 250 pounds of pure muscle doesnt mean i can or should force myself on your home or wife. Do you get the point now? it’s pretty simple.
ShawnB
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:07amThe point is the Blaze is smearing RON PAUL! SHAM ON YOU BECK! HE IS THE ONLY TRUE PATRIOT AND YOU KEEP TRYING TO DESTROY HIM
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:12amRush Limbaugh agrees with Ron Paul and Senator Rand Paul that there is no “cuts” from the super committee sequestration.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/11/22/rush-limbaugh-agrees-with-ron-paul-on-defense-cuts/
Spending 100 now and planning on spending 200 nextyhear and then lowering the planned amount to 150 is not a cut!
This should show how clueless the other candidates who said they were cuts are….Especially Romney!!!
Report Post »Founding Father2
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:02amTO THE TWO RON PAUL FANNIES…
Ron Paul did say it was the US that created Al Qaeda: thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/nov/paul_alqaeda_us.html
And OKIE again I have to correct you, Romney is not a flip-flopper any more than Ron Paul is and that has been proven so get your facts straight yourself. Here is the link to the facts on Romney’s supposed flip-flops: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/projects/nov/flip_flop_central.html
CHECK IT OUT… FACTS
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:12am@ASHESTOASHES
Report Post »You are one of the few Ron Paul supporters here who loves Israel and yet supports a man who does not. Words carry a lot of weight in the political arena. If a presidential candidate says we should let Israel take care of itself, it sends the wrong message to Ahmednutjob, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah and every other group or country that wants to wipe Israel off the map. Paul is no different from Carter and Obama. He too places the blame on America for all the jihadist attacks against us. He denies the Islamist agenda. In fact, the man is so far out on the political fringe he has more in common with libs than with conservatives. After the debate, Donna Brazile admitted that she agrees with Paul on a lot of things, and it goes without saying that the harmony is not godly. Please wake up. Behind Ron Paul’s libertarian facade there is a manipulative, self-centered individual.
AmericanPatriot01
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:13amIf there were a need and a request by Isreal to defend Isreal and the congress asserted a provision or law to support them then Ron Paul would be balls to the wall I am sure of that! He would not be wishy washy about taking care of business. PERIOD! and his actions would be constitutionally legal and authorized! You can count on that! You can’t say that for the rest of the shills on that stage.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:45am@Kryptonite
I will show just how ungodly your views are…arrogance is not of God, it’s of Satan…Remember that point….
Ron Paul is responsible and points out we must be responsible about our role, if any, that brought about 9/11 and jihadists attacks. Analysts all thru out our intelligence community agree with Ron Paul…Aggressive foreign policy, intervention, caused blowback. By just stomping into every land we can and occupying it we caused a retaliation that eventually landed on our own shores because we continued to ignore and be irresponsible for our actions. ARROGANCE….
Your progressive views, interventionism, is right out of the play book of Woodrow Wilson. This view is aligned perfectly with Barack Obama and the progressive left, “we know better and should tell other countries what to do”…ARROGANCE….
As for Israel, no one hates them like you lie and say. Do you hate those welfare recipients you say should make it on their own or are you actually loving them by making them independent and self reliant? Same principle. Israel can handle herself. BiBi said he doesn’t want your forced support! Respect that! ARROGANCE to think you know better then BiBi…
You are a progressive Kryptonite and it is time for you to be honest and admit it. At least be honest to yourself.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:47amTHE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Report Post »“If i went to your house and kicked in the front door and decided i was going to hang out in your livingroom and over turn your furniture because I could…”
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False analogy. If one followed your line of reasoning, evil would prevail. We don’t take over countries. That is bloody imperialism and the exact opposite of American exceptionalism. We go into the home to take out the bad guys who have invaded the place and are holding the family hostage. It’s police work, not criminal activity like you depict it. Maybe you agree with Barack that the police acts stupidly, Scr*w you un-American, liberal-friendly Paulists.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:04am@Founding Father2
You are a prime example of exactly why al-Qaeda is defeating us around the globe as you do not know one thing about why they started or what their goals are. You are spitting into the wind.
al-Qaeda ‘base’ was created to inspire jihad as a reaction to aggressive USA foreign policy. You can make all the crap up’d like but that is fact jack..In essence our actions created this group, just like Russia aggressive foreign policy created mujahdeen in their war with Afghanistan. Aggression is met with retaliation. Every action causes a reaction and the first action causes all the following actions.
bin Laden’s al-Qaeda’s goal: bleed America dry financially, spread troops and intel thin, cause dissent within America and between her allies.
The reason to jihad per the Koran is out of DEFENSE against INVADERS.
So, if we keep occupying foreign Arab land like OWS does private parks, jihad, retaliation, will occur and only be legitimized and grow stronger. Aggressive foreign policy is the source of all of these problems.
Ron Paul was correct. It is sickening our fine men and women go fight and die for people like you who don’t know what the hell they speak of. So shut up. You are to blame for encouraging what caused this whole problem.
Romney’s own words will show his flip flops. You cannot weasel out of his own words. They will be posted next.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:21am@Founding Father2
Cap n Trade
Before:
2005: Romney Endorsed Cap-And-Trade, Saying “We Can Effectively Create Incentives To Help Stimulate A Sector Of The Economy And At The Same Time Not Kill Jobs. … I’m Convinced It Is Good Business.”
Now against:
“In the guise of addressing climate change, President Obama has asked Congress to pass a cap and trade program that will have a devastating impact on hard-working American families and on our economy as a whole. The House has already passed a version of this legislation, and just last week, Senators Barbara Boxer and John Kerry answered the President’s call by introducing a cap and trade bill in the Senate.
We need to act now before it is too late and stop this legislation.”
[Romney's Free & Strong America PAC email, 10/7/09]
Flip flopped on Pro Choice/Pro Life-This is known
Universal Healthcare- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjlsXHQAhJk
Auto Bailouts
For:
During the 2008 election:
“The question is, where is Washington?” Mr. Romney said, speaking to a gaggle of reporters across from a General Motors transmission plant near Ypsilanti, where 200 layoffs were announced this week. “Where does it stop? Is there a point at which someone says ‘enough’? Or are we going to allow the entire domestic automotive manufacturing industry to disappear?”
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:24amAgainst:
Asked about Obama’s role in the managed bankruptcy of General Motors Corp. and Chrysler Corp., Romney said he would not have “sent $10 billion-plus to the industry prior to working out a managed bankruptcy. I think had the companies pursued that course, with the help of the government, of course, that they would have been in a far better position to protect their shareholders and their bondholders than they were having accepted federal funds.”
Flip flop #4
Campaign spending Limits
For
‘I would like to have campaign spending limits.’
Against
‘The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates and their positions without burdensome limitations.’
flip flop #5
Tarp
For
‘The TARP program… was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures.’
Against
‘When government is… bailing out banks… we have every good reason to be alarmed.’
capital gains
For
Romney Supports Tax Cut He Once Mocked as Cut for Fat Cats. In 1996, Mitt Romney ran ads against Steve Forbes’ flat tax plan, saying he “will not support a specific proposal unless it taxes investment income.” Romney’s ads asserted that the Forbes plan to eliminate taxes on dividends, interest and investment profit and institute a 17% tax on wages that would result in huge tax cuts for the “Kennedys, Rockefellers, and Forbes.” The ad said, “It’s a tax cut for fat cats.”
Against:
Report Post »‘I believe the ta
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:28amStem cell
For
“I am in favor of stem cell research. I will work and fight for stem cell research,” [Romney] said, adding, “I’d be happy to talk to [President Bush] about this, though I don’t know if I could budge him an inch.”
Against
‘In the end, I became persuaded that the stem-cell debate was grounded in a false premise.’
Amnesty
For
‘Those… paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process toward application for citizenship.’
Against
‘Amnesty only led to more people coming into the country.’
These are Romney’s own words. You can’t be for something and then against it and it not be a flip flop. Romney is a flip flopper for political gain. He has no principle or value.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:42am@Kryptonite
“It’s police work, not criminal activity like you depict it.”
That is exactly what Woodrow Wilson would say.
America is not the police agent of the World. That is not the US tax payers job, to fund the World police. That’s the job of the country with evil in it.
You agree with Obama/McCain that we must intervene for “humanitarian” action like in Libya. Both McCain/Obama=Progressive
Progressives are UnAmerican thus making YOU UnAmerican. You work against the Constitution, not thru it.
I hope you see the errors and progressiveness in your views. Admit them and change them. At least be honest about what you are. No need to hiss and be pissy when called out and exposed. Truth shall set you free. Your choice, keep your views and be progressive or admit your fault and change.
We Ron Paul supporters will stand in truth and continue to expose each progressive unamerican evil view that crosses our path. We Americans will not take your evil progressive crap any longer. Just know this to be true.
Have a great night.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:52am@kryptonliberalprogressiveindisguise
Report Post »Did you think about the stupidity of your babbling statement? I’ll break it down for you dingbat.
1. We go to THEIR home- First off the CONSTITUTION doesn‘t give the authority to GO into someone else’s home to SAVE them from someone holding THEM hostage you dope. Our military is suppose to PROTECT OUR LIBERTIES NOT THE WORLDS. Who gets to say they are being held hostage? You? The oil companies? The military industrial complex? Looks to me like anyplace these industries can loot a countries are conveniently being held “Hostage”. Do you realize we have over 500 military bases across the world? If that’s not imperialism what is you fool. We go into THEIR country, overthrow THEIR Governments or authority, INSTALL a puppet regime that we control, plunder their resources, AND DO IT ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF PROTECTING THEM. Why are the bad guys always on the CIA payroll for years prior to them conveniently becoming an enemy? Open your eyes and mind you clown, ALL these wars our for nothing but PROFIT at the expense of our fellow americans blood and taxpayer money, YOU should have a clue when the tyrants in congress can’t quit beating the war drums because they are making to much money supporting it.
Choctaw25
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:41amPaul stated that if Israel wanted to attack Iran “that’s their business, but they should suffer the consequences.” He added that Israel has hundreds of nuclear missiles and thus, “can take care of themselves.”
Report Post »As a Combat Veteran, Christian, Family man, I bleed Red, White and Blue and Paul’s remarks are exactly why I would stay home and watch Nobama get re-elected, if the right is stupid enough to put another McCain type up against the left. If you can’t stand-up for your friends and watch their backs, then you deserve to live in a world where the terrorists win.
That’s our problem now, WE DON’T HAVE ANY LEADERSHIP IN CONGRESS, ON EITHER SIDE.
MAN-UP, YOU BUNCH OF PC WOOSIES.
AZindependent
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:57amGlenn wants to support Israel, then Glenn can write them a check. His money, his choice. Same goes for all the other foreign aid money the Feds dole out. That is not part of the “Mission Statement” in the US Constitution.
BTW, it’s not my responsibility to provide billions of dollars worth of AIDs medicine to millions of people in Africa either. Bill Gates or Bono want to “save” Africans, they can write a check, too.
Report Post »wheels
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:28amSo everyone just loves the Constitution except when it gets in the way of their own ideology, dont be like the Libs. Dr Paul follows it to the letter, and has for decades, yet you dont like “his” (I mean the constitutional) stand on foreign affairs? Hypocrites? You say you’re for the Tea Party yet you waver from its core? You’d prefer Cain the Clueless or Romney the Rhino or Gingritch the GOP to enact the sweeping change you seek? I suggest, as Glenn’s said “do your own homework” because Dr Paul is the real deal, which scares people on both sides. He is for a strong defense (of home) & equal favor/trade for all allies & no support to any (which we cant afford anyway?). I (the individual) stand strongly with Israel for my own spiritual reasons, as does Dr Paul & Beck (personally) but that doesnt mean the Feds have to DO anything. They dont need it & havent asked for it, they have God & nukes, we have bankruptcy, it seems pretty obvious.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:37amWhere is the link to Ron Paul flip-flops? Because you can’t find any? I trust Ron Paul to do what he says. We’ve elected politician after politician that gets elected on talking points. They get into office and do whatever in the heck they want to do. Ron Paul isn’t like that.
What happened to BRAVE AMERICANS? I never dreamed I would see the day where Americans called out for war because the media manipulated them with fear. I never dreamed I would see Americans toss away their LIBERTY in exchange for false promises of security. I never thought Americans would put the welfare of other countries ahead of their own. What has happened to us?
Where does it end? How does it end? NOT GOOD unless we make a drastic change in the direction we’re heading.
I was reminded this morning why I am an American:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puyV00aGj54&feature=player_em.
ecurbyy
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 9:56amSo, the Blaze is searching for something that Dr. Paul said that would make him seem ridiculous. Sorry Blaze. He is 100% correct on this matter.
Report Post »1unwashed
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:00amThis administration is not “with” Israel. If we don’t get someone in like Paul, none of this matters. The economy crumbles which is what the left wants. Back to the constitution. Paul is right on so many issues.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:18amRon Paulbots do not flip-flop on being nuts. They are still, as is evidenced by their comments here, the nuttiest, fruitiest and most lunatic supporters of any lunatic candidate.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:34amIf they initiate an unprovoked attack then of course we should not. If they are in need of our help in response to being attacked that is a different matter. The US should not let Israel determine the strategic policy in the region. They are way, way to oriented to their self interest and could care less about the US other than our power and support. Time for the US to get balanced deals with all our allies. If big corporations need protection in the region, they should pay for it.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:48am@THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
First off the CONSTITUTION doesn‘t give the authority to GO into someone else’s home to SAVE them from someone holding THEM hostage you dope.
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Yes, it does. The enemies of freedom are our enemies. If they take over the small, helpless countries and build their empires unchecked, we suffer. It’s what Hitler wanted to accomplish, and the USSR as well. We stopped them both, although the Soviets had to be fought differently and our success in destroying communism was partial, thanks to the likes of you.
We live in a globalized world, like it or not, so we are constitutionally protecting our interests and our freedom when we help our allies. Reagan understood that. You Paulists neolibs don’t. Have fun living in your bubble, while the world around you is being attacked by commies and Islamists. Ignorance is bliss, lamebrain. Shut your eyes real tight and rote-cite the Constitution, you clueless wuss. You wouldn‘t know what’s wrong until a bomb blew your sorry a$$ into pieces.
==> “On the small island of Grenada… the Cubans, with Soviet financing and backing, are in the process of building an airfield with a 10,000-foot runway. Grenada doesn’t even have an air force. Who is it intended for? The Caribbean is a very important passageway for our international commerce and military lines of communication.” (Cont.)
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:06am@@THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE (CONT.)
“The rapid build-up of Grenada’s military potential is unrelated to any conceivable threat to this island country of under 110,000 people, and totally at odds with the pattern of other eastern Caribbean States, most of which are unarmed. The Soviet-Cuban militarization of Grenada, in short, can only be seen as power projection into the region, and it is in this important economic and strategic area that we are trying to help the governments of El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras and others in their struggles for democracy against guerrillas supported through Cuba and Nicaragua.
They have bases in Ethiopia and South Yemen near the Persian Gulf oilfields…[N]ow, for the first time in history, the Soviet Navy is a force to be reckoned with in the South Pacific.
Some people may still ask: Would the Soviets ever use their formidable military power? Well, again, can we afford to believe they won’t?” http://pierretristam.com/Bobst/library/wf-241.htm
See, that’s the difference between your worthless candidate and a real leader like Reagan. Reagan asked the right questions. In contrast, an un-American neo-lib like Paul says, “The bad guys won’t attack us if we stay put. And if they attack other countries, what’s that to us? Are we our brothers’ keeper?” You should change your username to reflect the darkness you have chosen to walk in.
Report Post »HAPPYRWE
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:12amHa Ha President Newt….don’t think so….He’s a paid actor, he plays a conservative on TV…..
Ron Paul is right no matter what, what if every “nice” country asked for our help, are we gonna keep going in to debt, Israel is a strong nation, under God. What they do is their business, we can stand with Israel but she is one of God‘s chosen nations we don’t need to hold her hand.
Beck says question with boldness….everything…he’s leaving this one up to us…let’s think for ourselves, better yet lets ask God what He thinks………
I still support Ron Paul….Paul/Bachman ticket….or Paul/Ryan etc. I don’t know why Beck has distanced himself from Paul but I am sure he has a good reason…….I don’t think we have to look for every word that comes out of Becks mouth, I believe he is being led by God but he says “hey I’m not a prophet” . Think for yourselves. I support Israel- I support Beck- I support Ron Paul and I support God’s will.
Report Post »Arch Stanton
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:26amRon Paul has a lot of good ideas, but he destroyed himself when he said he’d allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Before you whine that other countries have nukes…Iran is not other countries. It is run by radical twelvers that want to create enough chaos in the world to bring about the coming of the twelfth immam so he can bodily take them into heaven so they can avoid the pain of death. They murdered quite a few of my friend’s family when they deposed the Shaw, so I‘m quite familiar with how they think in ’modern’ Iran. So stop blaming his complete and total failure on the Blaze and whatever news outlet you kids claim is ignoring him this week.
Report Post »Phoenixsoulfire
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:51amSorry people Israel wants us to say it is ok, kind of like backing them up. Plus with a president who wants them as dead as Iran does why would they even say anything.
I stand will Israel
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:09pm@kaydeebeau,
Look at it from a philosophical perspective, you support the redistribution of wealth from tax payers to Israel. You support your socialism, but not liberal socialism.
Ron Paul has taken the only philosophically consistent stance.
Report Post »seadoonut1
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:50pmi would vote for ron paul he speaks the truth. that needs to be said people say he says crazy things they just sound crszy because we r so use to listening to a bunch of mealy mouthed politians
Report Post »1marinesthoughts
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:44pmAJC1973 you are 100% correct. They do not need us interfering with their Sovereign defese. Now they should not use nuclear strike as a first line of offence, unless nuclear strike is imminent from “ stated enemy here” and then only the use of small tactical nukes. Pray to GOD that this would never happen.
No where I have to agree with Congressman Paul and to a point Gov. Perry we are no good to any of the nations that support us if w have to borough money from a potential enemy to fight another enemy. No AID humanitarian or political from this government (privet Aid is solely up to the individual) till we are back in the black financially as a nation.
All departments are up for the chopping block
Defense spending (in Billions) US military $698.281 CIA $30 DHS $75 Total $803.281
The next top 25 countries combined
Again (in Billions)$315.900
That is a Difference of $487.381(in Billions) that the US spends over them.
We do not need a new bomber or hyper-sonic jet fighter when the equipment we currently have is still decades beyond the top enemy of the US. Even with the J-20 Stealth Fighter Jet China’s new Secret Weapon (not in full production yet ) .
Body armor for the troops would be the only place I would say is off limits, to include up-armored light medium military vehicles. http://tinyurl.com/88mqq24 http://tinyurl.com/7q8voq6
Reference http://tinyurl.com/76n28qo http://tinyurl.com/pg254c http://tinyurl.com/3ek3son http://tinyurl.com/7q6jgmw
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:00pm@Krytonite
Glenn’s FoxNews Show on 4/15/2011 w/ Dore Gold, fmr Israeli Amb. to the UN:
GLENN: Americans are beginning to disconnect with both parties and they are becoming much more like the Founders – some. And the Founders would’ve said, “We’re friends to everybody and enemies to nobody; we mind our own business.” America doesn’t have the money or resources anymore to be the policemen of the world. Explain to somebody what it means to stand by Israel – we have to go over and fight wars with you or what does it mean?
GOLD: That is precisely the point. Israel never asked the United States to risk the lives of American troops to defend it. We don’t want to be West Germany in the Cold War. We don’t want to be South Korea with American troops deployed along the demilitarized zone. There are people today who are suggesting that Israel should get out of that great strategic buffer that protects it – the Jordan Valley – and put NATO forces there, put the 82nd Airborne there. And we are complemented by the thought, but we don’t want that to happen. We don’t want American troops or any other troops defending Israel. We want to fulfill the doctrine of the founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, of self-reliance – that Israel defends itself BY ITSELF. And what we ask for from the United States is diplomatic support so we can maintain that position.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxxBuNWKgZQ (the above is at the 7:35 mark of the video)
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:36pmI have a question for voters that have stated the following:
I can never vote for a candidate that advocates abortion.
I stand with Israel
Have you looked at Israel’s abortion policy? They fund abortions, even late term abortions.
Report Post »Does that mean you can’t stand with them?
Or what?
Explain that to me.
Jinglebob
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:41pmPaul is a Loon. I watched the debate and on this one point alone he disqualified himself from being President. By the way, what faith does this guy claim to follow if any? He can’t be Jewish or Christian and hold this idea.
Report Post »Lufts
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:13pmActually the DO need our help. The Iranian program has spent trillions on air defenses and hardening their installations. That was one of the ways Israel knew a decade ago that this was a military program, not civil. When they requested to buy bunker buster bombs from us, Bush refused.
Israel cannot reach Iran without refueling their jets, and has no current ordinance that will damage a hardened installation.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:22pmRon Paul does NOT like Israel period. He would also be unlikely to sell them weapons or other kinds of support either.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:11pm@Okie from Muskogee,
“Glenn’s FoxNews Show on 4/15/2011 w/ Dore Gold, fmr Israeli Amb. to the UN:”
Excellent video.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:25pm@Okie from Muskogee,
“Glenn’s FoxNews Show on 4/15/2011 w/ Dore Gold, fmr Israeli Amb. to the UN:”
Netanyahu said a similar thing earlier this year.
See here.
Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu Speech at the Joint Session of Congress – May 24, 2011
(at 02:36)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H3Kyt1iGEE#t=2m36s
Ron Paul’s foreign policy IS the Constitutional AND Conservative foreign policy – it’s the Republican Party that has abandoned its prior position.
See here.
War, Ron Paul, and Conservatism
Report Post »http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/war-ron-paul-and-conservatism/
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:19amYou don’t support Israel?
You hate America, you’re unamerican, unpatriotic, you don’t support our troops, you’re a conspiracy theorist, a racist, antisemitic, isolationist, protectionist, anarchist, you hate God, you… did I say racist?
- sarcasm end
Report Post »Bud27
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:14amRon Paul has it all right and the Blaze hopes this post will hurt him
Report Post »Beck just cant stand Rons correct Stance on this issue
AmeriCat
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:41pmRon Paul has completely lost his marbles…
When is Rand Paul going to step in and curb his father.
I am now having doubts about Rand….
even though he touts TEA and Conservatism.
If Rand Paul continues to support the politics of his father, Ron Paul
Then Rand, too, will prevent the restoration of America.
I look to Rand Paul as the only person
who can stop his father from running for President as a Third Party Candidate,
Report Post »and thereby…..electing….Obama.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:17pm@AmeriCat,
“I look to Rand Paul as the only person who can stop his father from running for President as a Third Party Candidate, and thereby…..electing….Obama.”
You don’t get it: Whether Obama gets reelected, or any of the other current candidates, besides Ron Paul, we will continue to get an increasingly Socialist government.
None of them, but one, understands why economic crashes happen, and it is the central planning of the money supply that allows government to steal our property and liberties.
This is why Austrian Economists will vote for Ron Paul, whether or not it splits the Republican vote.
Learn Austrian Economics, America.
See here.
Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzExlEsIKk
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:54pm@Dr Labor
Appreciate you much. I actually borrowed that video from another Ron Paul supporter. I saw the original show but couldn’t ever find the clip of it.
No one seems to really care Israel isn‘t asking for help and actually doesn’t want our help! Odd isn’t it….It’s almost as if they believe they know better then Israel….
Hope you are well. Keep up the good fight.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 8:53pm@Okie from Muskogee,
“Hope you are well. Keep up the good fight.”
Thanks. Please don’t stop, yourself. Way to go with all the quotes and references.
Report Post »MSrebel
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 2:03pmOr the point is to further define the mindset of the candidates. Duhhh?
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:58pmI’m liking Ron Paul more and more. But damn it to hell if the poor bastard didn’t look totally exasperated tonight.
Gingrich is still my top pick. Paul would make a great vice president (or vice-versa). Cain would be a great addition as well, and would accentuate both of those named above.
Perry, Huntsman, Romney need to gracefully back out of the race. They spent most of their time tonight stroking their small cadre of supporters.
Huntsman is too “Mr. Rodgersy” for America. Romney, by now, hopefully realizes that conservatives have ABANDONED him. Perry……….forget it – no appeal whatsoever.
Over all…this was boring CNN as usual.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:10pmCan’t believe Newt got you so fooled. I bet you were a strong Bush supporter as well.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:21pm@Hobb – I believe you are a sucker for the MSM propaganda that has been the norm for the past 30+ years. As my daddy always says – use your head for something other than to hold your ears apart – in other words listen to Newt’s words and deeds ( balanced budget, welfare reform, totally “owned” slick Willy) rather than the Bernays / Lippman spin from the left
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:27pm@Kay
Which words do we look at?
For cap n trade, now against it
-For mandated health insurance, now against it
-For treating terrorists like criminal, now against it
-For “Cost saving end of life treatments, now against it
-For foreign aid, now against it
-Ignored withdrawal from UN bill as speaker, now for it
-Ignored bill to audit Fed as speaker, now for it
-Supports a North American Union with Canada and Mexico
-Wants to “fundamentally transform the Government”
Newt is a fake….He’s a global progressive….
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:38pmTSUNAMI-22, I agree with your point… “I’m liking Ron Paul more and more. But damn it to hell if the poor bastard didn’t look totally exasperated tonight.”
I think he is exasperated because he has been pushing the same fundamental principles for decades now, and the MSM and silver tongued Newts keep spinning quick quips against his principles.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:43pmFor a good link to why Newt cannot be president click here.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?329010-Comprehensive-list-of-Newt-Gingrich-positions
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:56pmnewt is no different than any other politician. Do me a favor and keep listening to what the media tells you slaves
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:52am“It will continue as long as our armies are there.”
US left KSA territory, that was one of OBL pet peeves. But that does not matter. AQ or other salafi or militant shia/mahdist outlets will just move the goal posts.
Report Post »Obeckian1984
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:23amNewt is a total lying FAKE.
He is playing on our ignorance and betting we will
not research his true record from 95 to 99
Newt is Bill Clinton’s Mini Me…..
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:40amBeing a strong ally of ours plus being the only real friend in the region makes Israel very strategically important to anyone who realizes the real of threat of radical Islam.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:23amThe threat from Islam is a lie perpetuated by the Global elite to continue to seize our liberties, destroy our constitution, and to finance their military / industrial complex.
Report Post »If people stopped ingesting GMOs, preservatives, and fluoridated water for a week, your pineal gland would be healthy, and your mind could absorb the FACTthat we went to war with the WRONG country for 10 YEARS on a LIE, because 19 PEOPLE from ANOTHER COUNTRY attacked 2 buildings in N.Y. !!!!!!!!!!
You people that still believe our government is still intact, have so much learning to do.
Here is a clue for you to go on… 1933 bankruptcy.
The progressives are employees of the receivers of our bankruptcy ( Global elite )
95% of ALL D.C. politicians are minions to the creditors.
It is a FACT that our Country, Government, and it’s PEOPLE were pledged to the federal reserve for that bankruptcy.
The Treasury is the manager of the bankruptcy. The federal reserve gives Geithner loan “packages” to propose to the congress.
The useless idiot in the oval office just promotes it as if he had something to do with, and signs it.
The federal reserve came up with the 400 billion dollar loan… err “jobs bill”
We have been bankrupt since 1933, and every dime you pay in taxes goes to old debts from decades ago.
The biggest ponzi-scheme the world has ever known, in addition to enslaving hundreds of millions of Americans.
Quit looking to the politicians, Look behind the Curtain.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:36amCain was the head of the K.C. Federal Reserve and was appointed to the position of CEO of Godfathers pizza. He never built a company from the ground up.
Bachmann is also a Global Elite Minion. A RINO progressive like 95 % of all D.C. politicians.
It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has
been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1,
Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and
insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 – Joint
Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause
dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official
capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and
Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal
Government exists today in name only.
The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International
Report Post »Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International
Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now
operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.
With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the
receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the
United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America.
DrFrost
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:36pm@VINDEX
God didn’t need Paul to write most of the new testament. He didn’t need Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to write the gospels. He didn’t need the apostles to go forth and spread the good news. He could have easily accomplished all of this without any help. However, He chose to use people to do it.
There is certainly a line you don’t want to cross when trying to serve God (see the story of Ishmael) but you also need to be ready, willing and able to be God’s tool if He so chooses to use you.
So, yes, God doesn’t actually need us for anything. On the other hand, when He gives us an opportunity to be part of His plan, we should not thumb our noses and point that out.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:57pmELIASIM . . . Very interesting point. A question I don’t think anybody here could answer . . . .What is our strategic national interest in Israel?
Anyone care to take on that one?
Report Post »olddog
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:14pmYou have got to be kidding…
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:24pmYea I’ll take it on, since we are pulling of of Iraq and soon Afghanistan…….. if Iran, Iraq or Russia were to conquer Israel as they have threatened to do and they were to take control of Israel’s entire military apparatus and all the weapons in Israel, we would lose any and all statistic control in the area in that region, not mention a very strong nuclear and conventional arsenal that is probably the second or third most strongest in the world. No worries though, Israel is not going to let that happen, they will fight until the last man stands.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:35pm@ Gary – clue – Israel will be the last man standing.. Bible – New Testament – Revelation…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:42pmIsrael from it’s conception under the British Mandate for Palestine was and has been nothing but a beach head and FOB to advance Western way of life into the old Ottoman empire (Muslim Land). The US thru aggressive foreign policy that began under Wilson slowly and surely toppled and bought out dictators all over that region.
In order to ensure the religious in America keep support of this world dominance, progressives instilled “we must fight for Israel or God will turn on us” which is a total lie.
The very people, Protestants, who are suppose to see the signs of the Bible, back a foreign policy that slowly conquered the world and brought it under a world government. How easily Satan fooled so many!
Our leaders don’t give a rats rear about Israel or her people, progressives are only worried their control will be taken from them if we let Israel decide her own fate. Israel was/is simply a Progressive pawn and manipulation tool…
Wake up America!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:58pm@ Okie from.. Israel was founded more than 4000 yrs ago.. Abraham, Issac, Jacob,, David, Solomen, Herrod… Jerusalem was centuries ago the capital of the state of Israel
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:13am@Kay
Since Jesus Christ……
Since right after Jesus Christ, 70AD, Israel has been over ran with Gentiles just like Daniel 9:25-27 says….It will be until the Jesus Christ returns…
The country we call Israel today was created by the British thru the world government…..It is not the physical territory it was to be by God…It is a stumbling block for all this who reject Jesus Christ. Why do you think there is so much war over it? It’s divided in 3rds, Jews, Muslims, pope following “Christians”……Just as the word said it would be…
Read your Bible….
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:17am“If God intends a future place and purpose for Israel, He is certainly capable of fulfilling that place and purpose. He will not need your help, my help, or Ron Paul’s help. I know that is shocking to the pride and arrogance of many evangelicals, but it is true nonetheless.”
Report Post »Pastor Chuck Baldwin
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin423.htm
kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:32amI seem to recall somewhere in the Bible that there are specific boundaries laid out by God for the land of Israel. While I do understand that the current day boundaries are not those as designed from the beginning, I would venture a guess that the current state of Israel exists within those original bounds.
And while I do understand that Jesus was sent to redeem the Jews (and all mankind) as fulfillment of the law and prophesy and that the Jews rejected Jesus, God made a covenant with the Jews. God does not break his covenants no matter what we humans do or do not do. I do not recall anywhere in the scriptures where God said to the Jews – nevermind. There are multitudes of promises from God and agiain- God doesn’t break His word….
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:00amIsrael has been around since Jacob.
Report Post »Jacob was called Israel by God.
Jacob had 12 sons which are the 12 tribes of Israel.
So Israel has been around since WAY back when Jacob was around, the grandson of Abraham.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:05am@Kay
To bring about JESUS, God laid out a land for the Jewish people to do so and today’s Israel is nothing of what God gave them.
God made a covenant to bring about Jesus…Jesus fulfilled that covenant..Nothing was broken…Land was not the inheritance silly, the Messiah Jesus Christ was…The land given was simply to bring about Jesus…
Why was there no State of Israel from 70 AD until the middle of the 20th century if the covenant was land?
No God did not say never mind. Jesus said the Romans will come and destroy the Temple and Jerusalem will be over ran with Gentiles until the wrath of God is poured out in the end.
Rejection of Jesus is breaking the covenant…..You really think God will allow a temple to be built to sacrifice something in replace of Jesus? No way!
The only people encircling Jerusalem today are this who reject Jesus Christ and it is their stumbling block….
You have been fooled by Satan Kay…Time to pray and get right with God. Open that Bible, it’s all there in black, white, and red!
Report Post »Choctaw25
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:55am.What is our strategic national interest in Israel????????
Report Post »Are you REALLY that butt-ugly stupid. The Muslims want to destroy the entire non-Muslim believing world and they want to start with Israel, then move on to America. If you didn’t have your head stuck up a dark place you would be able to open your eyes.
your sensei
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:20amI rest my case. No strategic national interest.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:02pmSensei
Our strategic national interest in Isreal is that it provides a friendly nation where we can land troops and supplies when we do begin the war with the Caliphate. The Caliphate would control the Mediterranean and the Suez Canal. Their influence would be felt by the European countries on the Med who are in no shape to defend themselves. A powerful Calaphate can cause disruption in France and Germany which would throw these countries into internal strife. A disrupted Europe is against our national interest because we are in a global economy.
Report Post »CougarNick78
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:56pmAwful lot of Paulbot Jew-baiters here. So much for the Jewish vote, boys. Good call Paul, you idiot.
Report Post »louise
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:05pmIs it idiotic to stand for what our constitution says..?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:34pmTake your prejudice remarks somewhere else. You are a pitiful excuse for an American, if you even are one. Your hatred is going to be your demise as it causes you to spew lies without even knowing you are. To say the things you say in the way you say it makes you more of a bigot than many.
Report Post »C.Gallicchio
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:46pmSorry sir but Bebe Netanyahu agrees with Dr. Paul. Watch his speech to Congress, he states that our aid just shackles them , and we help support her enemies with our subsidies.Cut all Foreign aid now. Liberty,Trade,Peace and Prosperity Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:53pmFunny how the Paulbots miss the part about Nat‘l defense in the Constitution and cant’ seem to put 2 & 2 together to understand the state of the world. We are not dealing with rational people in the world – Iran, sharia / islamists, anarchist / leftist / communists / demoncrats / anti-constitutionalists. While a nolble idea, when there are those who are determined to destroy us, we do not have the luxury of utopian ideals. Freedom can only be achived by a moral and virtuous people. Reality smacks us square in the face – since we have long since past the moral and virtuous, we must restore our foundation before we can even come close to the orginal intent of our founders. We have almost 2 generations of lost souls.
I am furious at anyone who was born before 1946 (my parents included) – you were in charge when most of this degradation started and you said nothing!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:05amKadee, It is funny how you miss the true intent of our Founding Fathers in how to do foreign policy. You cannot spread liberty throughout the wolrld by military force. It just emboldens others in the world to hit back. You do it through diplomatic means and through trade. You must show strength in Natl Defense of our country and let it be known that we will defend our borders against any attack with swift justice, with the approval of the American people through Congress, but we will not fight your battles for you. Isreal does not want our military help. They just want our diplomatic help by not hindering them. Anyone trying to say that Paul is Anti-Semetic is a liar or Anti-Semetic themselves.
Report Post »Gauleiter
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:07amDemocrat: When someone disagrees with you, call them a racist.
Republican: When someone disagrees with you, call them an antisemite.
We can talk policy like adults, or are you just going to defame anyone who you feel doesn’t hold your worldview?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:18amDiplomacy assumes that you are dealing with a party who shares at least some portion of the same values as you. When the other side is centuries apart in what is considered valuable you are starting from a position where there can be no meaningful starting point.
We value life
We value our children
We value the golden rule
We value moral absolutes like the 10 Commandments (or for those of the athiest / humanist persuasion at least 7 of them)
We value the individual
We value personal right and responsibility
We value propery rights
We value honesty, integrity…and myriad other things
Our enemies value none of those things. You cannot reason with those who are so diametically opposed to those things we value. They do not and will not negotiate from the same place.
You cannot negotiate with evil and expect a righteous outcome
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:26amRonnie P made a complete a$$ of himself tonight. He couldn’t even keep track of the subject of the questions. I’m not sure who the winner was but Paul was, without question, the loser – in a class all by himself. UNELECTABLE
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:35am@KayDee
The enemy says the same about the USA….
You show you lack understanding of why we are fighting, America aggression into others land. As long as the USA continues to stomp around in the ME like we own the world and can tell everyone what to do, bin Laden’s jihad will continue against us and gain strength. bin Laden‘s jihad is based on American’s (invaders) being in Muslim land (holy land to them)….
Iran wants us to attack them because they are in a battle with Saudi Arabia over who will lead Islam. An attack on Iran by the US will unite the jihad under Shia belief….
If Muslims held an aggressive foreign policy and began infiltrating the US to influence the government, would Americans rise up in the name of ‘God’ to fight them and even attack their home land? YES
DO UNTO OTHERS AS WE WANT DONE TO US, REMEMBER!
You support a progressive foreign policy. Progressive are of Satan, evil, eugenics…Satan…EVIL…If you support a evil Satan policy, you are EVIL…
WAKE UP!
Report Post »louise
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:42amKaydee, You said,
Our enemies value none of those things. You cannot reason with those who are so diametically opposed to those things we value. They do not and will not negotiate from the same place.
What are you suggesting ? That we should annihilate everyone who disagrees with us?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:52am@ Okie – I understand the point you are making. If we did absolutly nothing on the world stage and isolated ourselves into our own backyard, the islamists would still not be satisfied. I am all for live and let live, however when the other side states that their goal is not to let me live unless I submit to their ideology – I have a problem with just sitting back and playing nice. They can live peacefully in “my” world – I will just disagree with them and move along. They will not allow me to live peacefully in their world and would kill me before they let me disagree with them. How do you negotiate any co-existance with that?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:05am@ Louise – I don’t have an answer – I am only saying that diplomtic avenues will not work with those who do not share the same “we agree to start from this point of common ground” There is little if any common ground from which to begin. While many would like there to be some gray area – right and wrong are black and white. Do I profess to know the right answer – no I do not – I can though profess some semblance of recognizing the wrong answer. As Golda Meir said “we will have peace when they love their children more than they hate us” or the fable about the frog and the scorpion – I rather like Reagan’s peace through strength modlel- but again that only works when there are no scoprions on the field
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:36amyeah people who beleive in the constution are idiots
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:47am@Kay
Again you are wrong. Non-Intervention is not isolationist….learn the difference please, you sound stupid.
How do we co exist and negotiate with Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, Qatar, and the rest of the Arab Muslim countries we do now?
The King of Saudi Arabia does not want to conquer America with Islam. Only fearful people who eat up propaganda believe that. If Islam wanted to convert all Americans they would stop selling oil and use all those weapons we sold them on the US….
You do not understand Islam and who we are fighting. You only know what talking heads in TV tell you to say. Go spend some time in the ME and we will talk. You won’t be beheaded if you are not Muslim…Maybe in Iran but Saudi Arabia will soon war with them if Israel doesn’t strike them first.
Jihad is waged and only allowed as DEFENSE against invaders. Armies. bin Laden started al-Qaeda because our armies came over to ME. It will continue as long as our armies are there.
You know nothing of what you talk about as seen in your post.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:45amOkie from Muskogee:
” Jihad is waged and only allowed as DEFENSE against invaders. Armies. ”
Interesting. How do you explain 1400 years of Islamic expansion that was underwritten by the jihad principle? Middle East, North Africa, Spain, India, Balkans? Yes, it was all done under the banner of jihad.
“bin Laden started al-Qaeda because our armies came over to ME.”
No. From the inception AQ was started as a recruiting tool for a fight against infidels, originally intended as a armed wing of Muslim Brotherhood. In particular, it was directed against Russian “infidels” in Afghanistan. OBL did not like the US troops stationed in KSA, true, in the salafist view, that was a sacrilige. But the founding concept was to continue jihad and spread of Islam, interrupted for 3 centuries at Vienna gates.
OBL/AQ amd KSA princes are not in disagreement over the concept of Jihad. and the ultimate goals of Islam stated in Koran and Hadiths. They just disagree on methods. KSA leadership thinks AQ is counterproductive by clueing infidels on the goals (beside AQ trying to overthrow KSA government). They want to use the stealth jihad instead, by founding mosques (beach heads of Islam), madrassas, by buying out politicians and means of propaganda.They think it is more effective, and they are correct–if OBL did not start his call to arms campaign on West, a very few people would have any clue about long term goals.
“It will continue as long as our armies are there.”
US
Report Post »Jeff65
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:42am@KAY You say “I don’t have the answer”. I think that sums up everything that has been discussed here. You obviously don’t want to wipe every believer in Islam off the face of the earth, so what do we do then? If the US continues occupation, the fire is stoked and more “terrorists” come out of the woodwork. If the US leaves, that may start creating problems. At home the Muslims are taking over the US through infiltration into the big government that helps them with their cause.
The problem is that we will never be safe no matter what we do — even if we wipe out every Muslim and every communist and .. in the world. Your fears are being stoked through propaganda so that you will lose faith.
Ron Paul’s solutions will not make the world safe for you, but neither will the neocon war mongers solutions. Any Christian would know though, that we do not force our beliefs through the barrel of a gun. We will defend ourselves if attacked, but we will not preemtively remove a potential threat in order to make ourselves safe – that is a fools errand.
So let’s stick to what is right, and have faith.
BTW – I understand diplomacy as something needed for people that we don’t agree with and the more disagreement there is, the better diplomacy we need.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:29am@2×4
Jihad was first waged against the pagan believers in Arab land once Islam was established under Mohammad. It was later used against those countries that tried to invade such land all the way up to the home land of such invaders as we see today. Until peace or victory jihad is waged.
al-Qaeda was not initially begun under MB. ‘88 when finishing off the Russians and after siding with many Pakistani leaders OBL began the group al-Qaeda to potentially beat out the Americans that came in to aid in removing the Russians from Afghanistan. Upon returning home in ‘90 and KSA deciding to use the USA to fend off Saddam from their border country Kuwait, OBL returned to Afghan to bring al-Qaeda in to full mode of inspiring jihad. Before leaving OBL was very critical of the monarch of KSA. They expelled him and he left finding refuge in Afghanistan.
So in ‘90 al-Qaeda began to work to inspire jihad against the invaders. We have been there since and fighting them there since. Before, it did not exist.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:36am@2×4
Jihad is not to take over the world and it’s not a long term goal. That is absolutely false. There is absolutely nothing in the USA an orthodox Muslim wants, nothing. It is sacrileges for Muslims to partake in unbelievers way of life. That is another reason OBL was critical of KSA, because they mixed with unbelievers financially. Greed has driven many to mix with unbelievers which is seen in their funding of Mosques etc here in the US. Those groups are way more unorthodox and actually follow most civil liberties we have here. US also encourages these groups to fund those projects here in an effort to make them leave such harsh ways of life and at a possibility to influence people in KSA. Had nothing to do with subtle jihad to rule world. That’s simply false and propaganda from the US fear mongers.
“US left KSA territory, that was one of OBL pet peeves. But that does not matter. AQ or other salafi or militant shia/mahdist outlets will just move the goal posts.”
No have not left at all. Still there and al-Qaeda is spreading and growing stronger everyday. We have not learned anything and it is sad.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:47amFrom the non-logic posted re: “terrorists” — next step is to kill all Democrats. They threaten America!
WHAT HAPPENED TO BRAVE AMERICANS WHO TRUST IN GOD, NOT GUNS?
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:56pmWithout a legal Declartion of War Ron Paul is right, we have no business fighting a war FOR Israel or anyone else for that matter. Of course unlike some americans, Ron Paul actually believes in following the Rule of Law, the constitution, bill of rights and other such things that has made us a great country. Instead of just mouthing the words of believing in those things yet go against all those things like progressives often do. Good thing we have great men like Ron Paul to stand up for what is right.
Report Post »9635kari
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:06pmCheck your history you moron!!! We have had pacts with many country’s when it comes to aiding them during war. Ron Paul is an anti-Semite!! He looks like a dawdling old man who drools on himself at dinner. It has been a known fact that we would help Israel if they needed help.
Report Post »Levinite
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:24pmMoron, yourself. Pacts or not, we‘re broke and can hardly afford the 3 wars we’re currently leveraged out for. I’m tired of my tax dollars being pissed away on ALL government spending. If you think it’s worthwhile to continue spilling the blood of our bravest in some God-forsakened hellhole, maybe you should enlist, re-enlist, or start signing up your children.
I’m not a pacifist, I’m not anti-war, and I’m surely no anti-semite. I was cheering Israel on when they were shelling Lebanon in 2006. But stop confusing common sense foeign policy and originalism with this “at all costs, I’m going to support the mission and the country of ____(enter name of fairweather friend)_____. What is Einstein’s definition of insanity, again?
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:28pmWhat ‘pacts’ fool; do you even understand the notion for which you SPEW. I know my history, you shill bankster funded BS. Enjoy your Debt-Slavery. DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS (or Vgina) to cast off the Fed yoke???? To look out for YOU and YOUR OWN. Trust me, when your being robbed, raped, and murdered, precious ISRAEL will be a long way away….
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:00amCongress approved the war in Afghanistan and Iraq – thus a de facto declaration of war – it isn’t as if our troops just showed up
Report Post »Semper4everSemper
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:56pmBEAT OBAMA!
JUST MY TAKE (standings not based on polling percentages) :
Report Post »1 – Romney – still in lead, if he stumbles Perry will jump on it
2 – Perry – press is trying to ignore since left is terrified of resurgence, will pick up Newt’s and Herman’s support
3 – Gingrich – will hit a plateau and hold
4 – Cain – starting to slide (good VP choice)
5 – Bachmann – strong but no excitement (good VP choice)
6 – Santorum – strong and worthy, but not catching on due to press’ pro-abortion stand (VP?)
7 – Huntsman – very good but looks and talks like a politician (a very smart one) and can’t catch on
8 – Paul – I respect him and his views, agree on some, but he belongs in the libertarian party
texasfireguy
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:02pmMy worry about Paul is that he runs as a third candidate under the libertarians. If he does, it’s a guarantee that we get 4 more years of Obama, and I don’t know if we can survive that.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:27pmYou’re not very good at this are you?
Report Post »C.Gallicchio
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:37pm“Libertarianism is the heart and soul of Conservatism”- Ron Reagan. Liberty,Trade,Peace and Prosperity. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:38pmHey Texas, if you decide to vote for Individual Liberty and the renewal of Constitutional Principles, Obama will be beat for sure.
Report Post »TrueLibertarian
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:56pmIf any of you think a principled Ron Paul supporter is gonna vote for any of the other candidates you are sadly mistaken. The more support Ron Paul gains the less likely any other candidate will stand a chance against Obama because they won’t be getting any Paul votes. Unlike republican drones who support anyone with an (R) by their name Ron Paul supporters will not vote for anyone else but Paul. I myself will write in Ron Paul before I vote for Bush/Obama part three.
Bush and Obama are identical in policies yet some of you are gullible enough to believe they are different. Both support Interventionist foreign policy, both expanded government socialized healthcare, both use the federal reserve to stimulate the economy, both have expanded spending. These other candidates are no different.
I’d rather Obama win. At least he will only discredit Statism when this country falls apart. With any of these other (R) candidates they will end up discrediting capitalism with their corporatist policies that they run under the capitalist banner.
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:37amI believe Ron Paul would do very well as a third party candidate. His views hold up very well to the anti war Democrat and many Independents and republicans that want to return to sound money and small government. Also his rejection of both party’s status quo is huge part of the Tea Party movement before it was hijacked by the Republican party. I would worry more about the Republican nominee diluting the Ron Paul vote than the other way around.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:38amOne Marine to what I assume is another…
You can either deal with having 4 more years of Obama and watching this nation’s elected leaders become the largest enemies of the Constitution that you swore to protect or you can vote for Ron Paul because no matter what I am not voting for anyone else but Ron. If you all want to elect another Liberty stealing politician that is on you and you will suffer the consequences. If Ron is not on the ballot in my state then I will take the sharpie and write his name in GIANT block letters across the front and make the women running th polling place hand count it. About 10% of the voting public has been and will continue to be Ron Paul supporters and supporters of a constitutionally limited gov’t. That number is only growing by the day and nearly every other supporter that I’ve talked to has expressed the same opinion as I have.
If you end up with Barack for another 4 years, then you cannot blame us for voting for the Constitution and Ron Paul while you cast a vote for Romney who signed into law socialized medicine, Perry who forced little girls to get STD vaccinations against parental consent and medical reason, or Newt who has proven that he is a career politician who accepts lobby money and despite being Speaker of the House of Representatives did nothing to further the Liberty of the American people or unchain us from mountainous debt.
You can either help us to help you or deal with the sinking ship by drilling another hole.
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:44am@SgtB
AMEN!
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:09amAs a Veteran, I swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. I will NEVER waiver from that Oath. From NOW on I will never support a candidate that does not have that same conviction! Ron Paul has that conviction, I know that because I have spent hours reviewing and researching almost every statement, action, vote and speech Ron Paul has made over the last 30 years. Sonce his time in office with Ronald Reagan, he has never changed his stance, taken the easy way out, been swayed by corrupt special interest, voted against liberty or the constitution. He has NEVER faultered to be on the side of the people or their freedoms. EVER!!!
All of you die hard establishment republican robots better understand that if you guys don’t understand it is time to reject the progressive stance and return our nation to constitutionally limited government, We The People LOSE!! If you vote for another progressive FED backed moron candidate we may as well let mr obama complete his mission. RON PAUL is the ONLY ONE that is NOT OWNED BY THE FED and will NEVER play ball with them!! The FED is the infection, the cause of the cancer and must be dealt with FIRST! Then we can get this country healthy and it’s people happy again. There is no compromising on principal, There is no benefit in slight of hand or false hope. We need tried and true, Red White and Blue. We NEED RON PAUL!!
Report Post »Jeff65
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:48am@texasfireguy Why would you fear Ron Paul running in a third party? Just vote for him so that he wins the primaries and he will have no problem beating Obama. Paul’s challenge in winning the primaries is bigger than beating Obama.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:22pm@TEXASFIREGUY Then you better help to insure that Ron Paul receives the nomination. Anyone but Obama right? He’s the only want that can beat him, I’m sure of it.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:56pmEveryone posting here against Paul and why he would support ONLY going to Congress to obtain an act of war in the event Israel attacked Iran – you’re all a bunch of fake conservatives that would ignore the Constitution. Go put on your Rino hats and bang the war drums with Perry. Sick twisted pretenda-publicans the lot of you.
Report Post »burned at edges
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:05pmthose are not the rinos those are the neocons. Here is hoping that the Tea party takes over the Republican party from the inside.
Report Post »bluefouroscar
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:07pmyou said it, bunch of fakes claiming they want limited govt when they actually want their own brand of big govt.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:43pmThat’s what I heard, a bunch of Neocons beating their war drums, sayin We are the biggest, baddest boys on the block and you better do it my way or else. Perry wants to do this right now!!!! The only reasonable person is talking about the Constitution. Oh, what a nightmare! We look at every situation, theb look to the Constitution to see what the Rule of Law is, then make a rational decision based on the Law of the Land! That is just acting like a kook! What has happened to a lot of Americans today?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:23amSo what is your take on Article 1 Section 8?
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:31amKaydee, article 1 section 8 discusses many powers that congress has, to which are you referring?
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:52pmAnd because Ron Paul is not pro-Israel, you see the Jewish media trying to marginalize and minimize him in coverage.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:59pmAMEN! It’s really that simple… America has been had… Every Patriot in this country should be in tears over our condition today.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:03pmNo worries, because they have plenty of boot-licking Israel 1st/America 2nd so-called americans that are more than willing to go along with them in marginilizing Ron Paul.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:50ammaybe you should read the nice article about this and ron paul at israeli national news .com
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:51pmHey. freedom loving American-like patriots . . . how about all that Patriot Act talk? Yes, they likes them some Patriot Act juju, yes the does. So, who does that leave you with?
Let me guess, Sarah Palin.
heh heh heh
Report Post »olddog
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:17pmYou glued your wig on too tight..Go back to media matters..
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:19pmSensi?
Report Post »You are LEFT with a marxist dumbo socialist harvard bred useless idiot.
Choctaw25
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:47amSarah would be a better option than ANYTHING the left has or could ever offer to the American people.
Report Post »Fabian4Liberty
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:51pmIt is amazing to me to hear Ron Paul being called an anti semite for sticking with the same message our founding fathers would have. Let Israel take care of herself, she is more than capable to kick the ass of all those countries. The fact is that we give Israel $4 billion a year and give her enemies over $10 billion. We are much better off leaving that entire area, bringing our troops home, and ending the wars!
Report Post »Go Ron Paul!
Must watch video / IRAN & Global War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5-xydLffoQ
Hobbs57
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:23pmWe will need to bring all our troops home if Paul is elected in order to calm the great many riots that would break out across our deeply divided nation. While I agree with Paul 100%, no kidding, I do, I understand the reality of just how far down the scale we have gone. Ron Paul would be like pouring ice cold water into an over heating engine. We are just no there as a nation yet. Especially after all that Obama has built up with unions, leftist movements and causes, and so on. We need to come down the middle first, win the seats in the house and Senate with the Tea Party, then start to bring our country back to order. WE can then elect Rubio …haha Sorry, Paul probably will be on his death bed by that time or at least have dementia kicking in. I think everybody here agree with Paul a great deal, but we all have family, friends, and loved ones who will be in complete loss once if the nipple is ripped from their mouths, We can’t carry them all on our backs just yet. I know, let them fall is the libertarian way, but that is just not the American way.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:51pmHobb, We just do not have that kind of time. Have you even looked at our Natl Debt Clock?? Go here: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ Get real! It is now or never. I would like for my grandchildren to experience Individual Liberty.
Report Post »Espada
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:50pmPaul is a loon.
Report Post »Pouncing Porcupine
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:10pmThat’s an insult to loons.
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:58pmAmen.
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:01amTo Pouncing Porcupine:
Amen, Amen, and Amen! You said it!!!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:11amYou are not even smart enough to know what Ron Paul stands for. You are a Liberal, Neocon, Big Government republican or just plain stupid…I thiunk its the last one.
Report Post »Pouncing Porcupine
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:49pmPouncing Porcupine says that Ron Paul will never be the President of the United States. Ever.
Report Post »Chris G
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:59pmShameful, isn’t it???
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:00amThank Goodness!
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:14amobama is doing just a fine job. 4 more years and maybe our unemplyment is tripled.
Report Post »spankadonkey
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:09amPOUNCING PORKY – You are absolutely correct. He (ronnie P) is a bumbling, stumbling, incoherent, confused old career politician with no significant accomplishments, trying to isolate the US and blame US foreign policy for all the ills of the world. He is out of touch and doesn’t even realize it. It simply baffles me that the Paulbutz can’t see the light and are so blinded by his foolishness that they would throw the election to Obummer. Really sad.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:31pmEnjoy another four more years of Obama because I’m writing Dr Paul in. Socialism lite is still socialism. No thank you.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:48pmRon Paul = Loser
Why break a perfect losing streak now?
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:56pmNot a very rational post.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:58pmI heard every word he said in the debate and rebuke it in the name of Jesus. You screwed up Ron
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:31pmPaul has been quoted in the past of saying that Gaza is like a “concentration camp,” and has many anti-Israel supporters rallied to his cause such as Lew Rockwell, Michael Scheuer, and Eric Margolis. He even has many neo Nazi’s and 9/11 “truthers” who accuse the Mossad of orchestrating the attack supporting his candidacy. Given that, why should any Jew support Ron Paul?
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:02amAgreeing totally with Rational Man and Dealer – absolutely! Amen!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:04amI work in a Jewish restaurant and most, if not all, agree that Israel is more than capable of defending herself and doesn’t need the US to get involved. Some of my co-workers have dual citizenship with Israel and the US, and have fought in Israel’s army. I think they might know a bit or two about Israel’s independence and sovereignty.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:22am@colt1860
Little more than national pride. Not surprised you don’t recognize it when you see it. Being an American and all.
Good Israeli nationals!!
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:31am@COLT1860
I agree with and like your post “Israel is more than capable of defending herself and doesn’t need the US to get involved … …I think they might know a bit or two about Israel’s independence and sovereignty.”
Right on!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:48am@Rational Man That’s it. They don‘t want to be seen like a Nation that can’t deal with her own problems without the US holding their hands. They want to be free and independent. They don’t mind us helping them, as we’ll always be friends, they just don’t want us thinking and acting for them. I was talking to them about Iran and they said Israel should, or would, take care of Iran, irregardless of the US’ position. One important thing to point out about something noted in this debate is this; if we or Israel attacks Iran, there will have to be a regime change. And that will result in more nation building, more debt, and more time spent in a foreign region. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Maybe we should at least consider having a congressional discussion, especially with our new TEA party Congress in 2012, before going any further. And try to seek out Constitutional means to deal with our problems.
The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure. – George Washington
The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war. – James Madison
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:48pmAnd Newt said he’s for amnesty! Woo hoo!
(Talk about burying the lede.)
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:03pmWatch what happens to him in the next poll. Just like Perry
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:04pmThat’s really what came out of the debate tonight.. We all already knew that everyone on stage was bending over backwards kissing the Jew’s rear end in order to get their money and support with the exception of the one principled politician in the bunch; however what we did not know was that Newt was for Amnesty.. Oh well. Another Neo-con down the ole proverbial drain.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:29pmIt is amazing how you Paulistinians only hear what you want to hear. I am convinced that you guys have serious reality issues.
Newt said nothing of the sort…
Report Post »checkit
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:48pmRon Paul would allow Iran to get nukes and sell them to Hamas, Hezbollah and any other radical groups. Let alone Irans verbal threats on Israel, but all they have to do is sell them to Hamas/Hezbollah and then their hands are clean.
And Ron Paul would allow this and actually PROVOKE THIS!
Ron Paul would also remove our troops in South Korea, and the very next day the North Koreans would invade and kill and or in-prison millions of South Koreans. But the Ron Paul campaign DO NOT care.
We have not been attacked Ron Paul believes we attacked ourselves as his followers on info wars website believe.
Bottom line Ron Paul is running on a Fed/ Constitutionalists agenda and 90% INSANE ideas and thoughts and beliefs.
That is all he has is the Fed thing to catch young ears and empty minds that do not do their research.
Ron Paul would in fact create World War 3. As he would remove all U.S Deterrents around the world.
Here some research to help you with REAL Video / Audio that does not lie.
Ron Paul WOULD NOT listen to his own Generals, http://youtu.be/irgeoE3xrL4
Report Post »Iran getting nukes: http://youtu.be/BDvaTqLlZlA
9/11: skip ahead to the :55 sec mark and a lady ask him, “Why can’t you come out about the truth of 9/11″: <a href="http://youtu.be/OsSpNm8QUlA" target=
A Conservatarian
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:52pmWow, you think the United States is the police of the world. You’re a fake conservative too!
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:55pmI disagree with all of your points. The US cannot police the world while all the other countries stand by and watch. Other countries need to take a leading role in their own regional security. The US simply cannot afford it.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:01pmIt is not our job to be the policemen of the world, that would be a progressive/globalist stance to want us to be the policemen of the world. Should we just get it over with and replace our soldiers uniforms and helmets with UN gear and blue helmet?
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:03pmCheckit . . . Love your name. It’s very . . . hep. It‘s the bee’s knees. Hipsterish in a wiggery gangsta way, MC. Yo!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:21pmRON PAUL 2012 !!!!
Ron Paul knows we are not the world’s police and not a nation that was designed to promote democracy abroad, at times using military force.
That occurred after the receivers of our 1933 bankruptcy, now running a previous Constitutional Representative Republic, decided to structure America more like a Corporation.
Ron knows these wars keep us in debt to the federal reserve ( A Private bank ) and finance their military / Industrial complex.
Ron knows we have to Print our OWN American Money, based on gold and silver and abrogate from a Federal Reserve note, based on speculators !!!!
As far as Israel goes, They have said that they don’t need our help, and would prefer us to stay out of it.
Ron also knows about the long term dangers of the Muslim’s worldwide caliphate ideology and will address that issue when the time comes.
He knows Al Queda attacked because of foreign intervention since 1952. NOT because we are free people or they look to dominate the western world (at this time).
Who ever said Paul or the U.S. could “allow” a sovereign nation to have or produce anything?
Our government is to provide for the common defense. NOT provide for the Global offense.
Let the UN monitor Iran. Let’s quit the UN and Fed. End the IRS, Dept of Agriculture, Education, Energy, TSA, DHS, CIA, FBI, and many other progressive governmental tentacles established since 1913.
checkit
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:42pmAs you can see from the Paul supporters replies to my original post, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT OTHERS, just like the left socialist liberals. They want Pot, Drugs, your money as they are members of the 99%… http://youtu.be/jEnc7iak6ms andif you want to skip ahead see the Ron Paul paraders on the OWS march at the 3:30 mark, http://youtu.be/DnGcUnoNa5Q
They could care less that millions of South Koreans would be killed or in-prisoned once Paul removed the troops in South Korea, They ALL say this… some at least have the nerve to come right out and say I Don’t Care. But As you can see they can’t think past tomorrow, the results… This is why Ron Paul and his supporters are Mentally Not stable and are solid Potheads.
Ron Paul WOULD NOT listen to his own Generals, http://youtu.be/irgeoE3xrL4
Report Post »Iran getting nukes: http://youtu.be/BDvaTqLlZlA
9/11: skip ahead to the :55 sec mark and a lady ask him, “Why can’t you come out about the truth of 9/11″:http://youtu.be/OsSpNm8QUlA
Busted Lying, Stuffing Pork: http://youtu.be/GyPLFKUdhqY
Stop aid to Israel: http://youtu.be/-vWRnErMOBo
Pro Drug, Prostitution, Gay: http://youtu.be/LbVwN3dEdU4
Took $1 Million dollars from Communist News Network: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=334753
chfields62
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:08amGreat idea, lets all stick our heads in the sand and pretend nothing is happening (Ron Paul foreign policy). There is an old saying that goes…all evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing….This country and this world is as bad as it is, because not enough good men are standing up against evil. Everybody just says, it’s not my problem, they’ll stand there and watch someone beat some poor innocent for no reason and video tape it for you tube, but won’t do anything to stop it. You gutless, spineless, little weasels disgust me. It is this utter lack of morality that is destroying this country and the world in whole.We have an obligation as a people and a country to protect each other from evil, whether its a thug robbing someone or a government stealing your rights, or a terrorist threatening your friends/allies, YOU MUST ALWAYS PROTECT YOUR FAMILY!!!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:12amScenario: North Korea decides that this is it, and decides to nuke South Korea. 25,000 of our troops are wiped out in a heartbeat. Are we safer?? We have nuclear subs stationed all around the world that can strike in within 30 minutes. We have a computer guided jet bomb that can travel 8X the speed of sound and can strike anywhere in the world in one hour. We do not need the troops all over the world, and everyone is aware of our strike capabilities. If we fall as a nation financially, it will not matter anymore as we will be done. We need to save America or it will not matter where you live in the world, it will be a scary place.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:34am@CHFEILDS62
THEY ARE NOT MY FAMILY !!!!!! lol. clown. I don’t give a crap about them, just as they don’t give a crap about me.
I care about America and it’s citizens first !!!!!
Israel is irrelevant to me, always have been, always will be !!!!!
@West Coast Patriot
Report Post »Scenario.
The Chinese are the superpower, and spread Communism around the globe.
If we are such freakin’ humanitarians, why don’t we invade North Korea and China ?
because the military / industrial complex only loves using it’s drones to terrorize weak nations?
Paul is not for cutting funding from practical defense measures, just WAR !!!!!!!! get it !!!!!
Scottsman
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:37amCH3CK!T, stop spamming your self. Ron Paul does care. See all above and below posts that do not start with CH3CK!T.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:42am@West Coast Patriot
Report Post »My Bad :p I didn’t read far enough into your post.
colt1860
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:57amIran is allied to Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China, North Korea, Syria, and any other Communist or Radical Nation. Attacking Iran could very well be the start of World War Three. We should not get ahead of ourselves.
A nuclear war cannot be won, and must never be fought. – Ronald Reagan
History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. – Ronald Reagan
The defense policy of the United States is based on a simple premise: The United States does not start fights. We will never be an aggressor. We maintain our strength in order to deter and defend against aggression – to preserve freedom and peace. – Ronald Reagan
America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She well knows that by enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom. – John Quincy Adams
Ronald Reagan spoke in support of Paul’s foreign policy views, stating, “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.”
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:47pmRon Paul gave a great answer to the question. Ron Paul 2012. We got a real chance to turn things around in this election.
Report Post »checkit
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:46pmHe won’t even get 1% of the vote. WEll ok he will get about 1 or 2 % overall, FYI check the last two times he ran for President in the GOP Primaries, Guess what HE DIDN’T WIN ONE STATE! That’s right NOT single state, but sure you Ron Paul supporters keep up the hope and he can run as a Ross Perot third party and win… Yea sure… keep smoking your pot.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:23am@checkit Check this out:
In a new Public Policy Poll, 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul bests President Obama 48 to 39 percent among independent voters. The poll also showed Paul as the only Republican candidate leading President Obama among independents.
ronpaul2012.com/2011/11/16/ron-paul-leads-obama-among-independents-new-poll-shows
GOP outsider Ron Paul gaining traction in Iowa
news.yahoo.com/gop-outsider-ron-paul-gaining-traction-iowa-232822649.html
thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/194791-ron-paul-is-surging-an-iowa-and-new-hampshire-front-runner-and-powerful-third-party-possibility
whiteoutpress.com/articles/wach/ron-paul-wins-independent-voters-poll378/
economicsjunkie.com/ron-paul-head-to-head-with-obama-in-new-poll/
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:40pmA vote against Ron Paul in the primaries is a vote for Obama in the general election.
Mark my words.
FOUR MORE YEARS! Thanks Neocons…. Thanks RINOs…. Thank you, all you fake conservatives!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:38pm@ Colt and Okie and the rest of you RP guys…. Great news on the polls, if Dr. Paul gets the nomination we will support him, but you cry babies will not do the same if he does not. That is the difference between us and you, you guys pound your chests and pretend to be virtuous for being intransigent. Pathetic!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:44pm@AMERICAN SOLDIER (SEPARATED) “A vote against Ron Paul in the primaries is a vote for Obama in the general election. Mark my words.FOUR MORE YEARS! Thanks Neocons…. Thanks RINOs…. Thank you, all you fake conservatives!”
GROW THE F$%K UP! Jeeesh, you Paul guys are as unstable as damp dynamite!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:28pm@Ookspay In MD, my home state, I got deceived and misled when I went to vote for my first time. In the primaries, I supported the TEA Party candidate for Governor. This candidate never got any recognition from the GOP state establishment or proper representation in the media. He however, without the help of the GOP or the media, got 21-23% of the primary vote, and even up to 30-33% in some counties. He lost against the one chosen by the media and Establishment, the two-face Ehrlich. I was ensured and encouraged to vote for the RINO and moderate Ehrlich. They said, he was the most electable, he was the lesser of two evils, hold your nose in the booth, we must vote together, anyone but O’Maley, he has more experience in high office, he has the most money and public recognition, he can’t loose, he’s moderate and may sway democrat voters, he’s not too conservative and may work with the democrats to pass laws, ETC. So, come election day, though I already had a feeling about the results of all this BS being spouted, I did my duty as a Party member and voted for Ehrlich. Of course, we lost. No, not only the election, but we had lost also our old ways of being free and independent, of saying no to wrongs, doing the right things even if we’re the only ones doing them, seeking the truth and standing by it.
I’ve never said I would not vote for the GOP nominee if it was not Paul. I keep an open mind and take into consideration everything at hand. But I don’t forget.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:09pmColt,
You are well informed regarding the issues and also have an intensity that gives me hope. In 2008, I supported Dr. Paul in the primaries. However, living in Ohio it didn’t matter all that much, the race was over by the time we voted. I was sickened when John McCain was our nominee, but I did vote for him. It didn’t matter whom we nominated, no-one could have beaten Obama in 2008! The left and minorities wanted a victory more than we did and the media ushered in BO. The Conservative base of the GOP were sold out, and we were not inspired at all, many stayed home. We as a party needed to learn that lesson and rediscover our conservative values and principles. It will take time to reclaim and implement them completely, we lost the public trust.
This Country is split down the middle, left, right and the pendulum constantly swings, that’s a good thing I think. Reaching too far in any direction, only leads to division and dissension, like we see today. Ron Paul IS the truest Conservative in the race, but most Americans will not see the wisdom in his policies and he will be vilified and face impossible odds in congress and the press. Thus the reason for incremental change. Show the public the wisdom of Conservative-Libertarian principles at work and slowly change minds and policies.
The TEA Party and true conservatives have made a course correction within the GOP and I think the Rove, Crystal, Krauthammer, progressive wing of the party are slowly getting the me
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:10pm(Cont) Colt,
Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Alan West are beginning to make the case for true conservatism and constitutional authority. But do it strategically, sneak it in. Let’s win the White house, the Senate and then we can hold their feet to the fire and make some badly needed changes.
Ookspay
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 9:47pm@ookspay I like your reasoning here. It’s very sensible and much appreciated. As always, I’ll stay the course; but sometimes it’s times like these that call for an immediate revaluation. We must for the sake of sanity and success always question, investigate, examine, review, inquire and share our discoveries and conclusions. Truth never fails. We must always seek the righteous path and never loose sight of our goals. We certainly must be wise in the solutions we seek in this Political and National mess we’re in.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:06pmColt,
I have a dream… Ron paul wins the nomination. Obama and Harry Reid get caught in a hotel room with a crack pipe, a dead boy and a live male prostitute. Then maybe, maybe we could reagin the White House and the Senate and get some shiite done.
Cheers – Ookspay
Report Post »amerbur
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:47pmAt least we know where he stands. I will never support him because I disagree with his view. I do appreciate his honesty.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:54pmYes but here’s the thing in that if we are going to aid Israel in an issue which is pretty much secluded to the fact that Israel is there and Israel is really no strategic interest to the U.S, then how about the U.S just completely pounds the Mid-East and takes over the whole damn ed thing, and all their oil?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:56pmBuild giant prison camps for all the terrorists that don’t like it, and make it all part of the U.S? Just think, we would only have to do it once. Otherwise, lets stay the hell out of the Mid-East!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:03pmOf course if I was President before I found my true calling, I probably would have pounded Russia and China back to the stone-age 50 years ago.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:10pmI will NEVER support anyone that will not support Israel. Read your bible Ron
ashestoashes
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:20pmEliasim…I can‘t say that I haven’t thought the same thing myself.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:27am@dealer. Paul never said he would not support israel. last time i checked israel is not part of the US.
Report Post »what he actually said was that he would not tie israel’s hands like we have in the past. If elected Paul would be US president not world police chief or schoolyard bully. wouldn’t be nice to have an American president that actually took his job serious and was president for ALL AMERICANS. the best way to help other countries is for the US to be a strong bastian of LIBERTY
kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:27amHonesty? You think saying we should let Israel take care of itself because “they sacrifice their sovereignty to us” is honesty? Read between the lines, friend. The man is devious.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:02pm@dealer@678,
So you support conservative-socialism, but not liberal-socialism? You support redistribution of tax payers money to Israel? Lemme guess, you also support foreign aide (welfare) to other countries but not welfare for Americans? Conservative-socialism makes you feel warm and fuzzy, but liberal-socialism is evil. lol
Some of my fellow conservatives are about as philosophically consistent as our liberal counterparts.
Report Post »hardworkinwhiteboy
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:46pmRon Paul = Common Sense
Israel is far stronger than what most Americans give them credit for. Israel would destroy Iran.
Report Post »bluefouroscar
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:01pmnail on head
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:02pmThat’s not actually true. While maybe they could destroy Iran, all an attack on the Iranians will do is polarize the entire Middle East and I assure that even though Israel could do a lot of damage to their neighbors there wouldn’t be one Jew left standing in Israel.. That’s for sure.
Report Post »TrueLibertarian
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:13am@techengineer11 As opposed to polarizing the Middle east against us.. Oh, wait it is already happening. Our foreign policy has opened up so many openings to attack the US it is not even funny. Using our own foreign policy any country can justifiably use drones and kill innocent people just because they think there are terrorist in our country. Assassinating leaders, no problem, US did it. Hell our foreign policy has made it a necessity for every country to build nukes. Look at Libya. They abandoned their Nuclear program and look at what happened. Hell, the US actively turns against its allies. Egypt learned this the hard way.
People complained about the Mosque in New York because it is a symbol of conquest. WTF do you think Muslims feel about the US military bases in their country which are launching points for indiscriminate drone attacks. Oh I forgot terrorist wear T-shirts that say “I’m a terrorist” so it is your fault if your neighbor gets bombed and your family ends up dieing in the collateral damage.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:41amTrueLibertarian: You are preaching to the choir.
You call yourself a libertarian. I have no problem with that but the Media and the Republican establishment is trying to turn that into an ugly word. I would be more coy and attempt to stay in the Republican party.. Don’t let them marginalize us over a word. It is the Republican establsihment which needs to see the light not us.. Or in other words the Republican establishment needs to become more Liberty minded if they intend to keep my vote.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:46pmRon Paul is the only candidate that knows how international diplomacy really works. Do we really have to spank every child country that acts up? Or can we trust other countries with a greater interest and a greater stake to take care of the problem? I vote for the latter.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:39amAnd that has worked so well when?
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:28amKAYDEEBEAU, we haven’t tried it properly since just after the American Revolution. Lessons learned from centuries of imperialism and intervention prior to that. You got a better idea?
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:12pm@kaydeebeau,
Japan, Australia, Canada – basically almost all countries that do not attempt to build empires through militarism or force feed people BigMac’s when all they want to eat is camel-burgers. Look at China, they are building an empire through economics and are not under Muslim attacks.
Economic trade is the building block of peace. If they step on our toes, use the entire force of our military and send them to meet the real maker.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:46pmTiffany Tiffany… You could have named this Article :: Ron Paul says he will get out of Israels way if they attack Iran; Ron Paul says without a proper declaration of war from Congress, he would not support Israel attacking Iran; Ron Paul says it‘s Israel’s business if they want to attack Iran, not the U.S.’s. The name of this article is seriously biased; thanks Blaze for showing your true colors!
Report Post »sweetconcern
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:28amConcervatarian, I agree with you Tiffany has some kind of hate for Dr Paul. It is very evident I thought Beck was going to be fair and balanced not so in her case. blaze has a fairness problem when it comes to the good Dr. I have tried to ignore this problem but I think I will just become a real Paulbot and go elsewhere for my news. I hope they monitor there posts……….
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:44pmHey Nation of Israel, come live in the U.S and we will protect you. Oh wait a minute, we have to get the government to protect Americans first.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:48pmThat’s how you solve that, instead of bringing all the Mexicans in instead have Israel come to America because that Land over there isn’t the land God gave them but the clay called the human body. And if they say “No” well then no aid in conflict.
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:06pmHey Eliaism, I would rather have the Mexicans than the OWS’ers. Think we can make a trade?
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 11:27pmIslamic terrorists don‘t want Israel’s land, they want ALL Israeli’s dead. Doofus! It didn’t take long for your anti-semetic ways to bubble up from all of your bible thumpin’ verse torturing, did it Eliasm? You fancy yourself as a prophet and biblical scholar, try this one, “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor a poisonous tree good fruit.” Now, go ahead and hit the bong and “wow” us with some more “brilliance”.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:43pm“If Israel had a credible plan that it appeared as if they could succeed, I would support Israel, yes,” Cain said. So if they have a poor plan or could not succeede their on their own?
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:48pmGreat point.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:43pmWussy!
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:48pmLukerw = Nation Building, RINO, Wanna-Be-Conservative. Go vote for the Bush2 lackey Perry already.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:42pmThis was the see who will kiss the Jew’s rear the most debate. Have we really come to this in America? Oh my god I’m so ashamed that our Politics has been reduced to this.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 10:42pmI wouldn’t aid them either. The bottom line is that the existence of the nation of Israel is of no strategic interest to the U.S.
Report Post »CommonSense41
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:24amYou are really piece of something. Can you explain me please how 0.2% of the world population can cause misery for the 7,000,000,000 (billion) people. The only answer is that the Jews posses an incredible power or the entire world population just stupid and can take care of itself. What answer do you like more? It is disgusting how the world treats the Jews. Israel did not ask the USA to fight on their side. Israel did not ask to send the USA troops to fight for them. Israel fights for the existence since 1948. No one solder of the USA got killed fighting for Israel. So, drop the crap. Israel needs moral, political, veapon (paid)support that is all.
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