Ron Paul Still ‘Hasn’t Decided’ Whether He Will Support Romney for President
- Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:40pm by
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The rumors of a conspiracy between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney were apparently premature. As the former Massachusetts Governor coasts towards the GOP nomination, Paul himself told CNS News that he “hasn’t decided” whether to support the nominee. This is a marginally more encouraging sign from Paul than has been seen in the past, but given his reasons for being undecided, Romney supporters shouldn’t get their hopes up:
“I want us to stand for something,” Paul told WMAL. “You now, for fifty, sixty years, we change parties, but we never change policy.”[...]
“Which Republican other than myself would look into the Federal Reserve?” Paul asked.[...]
“I don’t see how that would happen. There’s too many disagreements,” Paul said. “I like Mitt Romney as a person. I think he is a dignified person and I–you know, I have no common ground on economics. I mean, he doesn’t–he isn’t worried about the Federal Reserve. And he isn’t worried about the foreign policy. He doesn’t talk about civil liberties, so I have a hard time to expect him ever to invite me to campaign with him.”
Except for the Federal Reserve point, the irony is that all of these reasons arguably place Paul closer to Barack Obama in terms of philosophical predispositions than Romney – a point that was not brought up in the interviews where Paul has spoken on the topic. You can watch the clips here:
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llotus
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:26pmAs far as I can tell……..the third party vote will elect Obama again as it sounds like they did the first go round. I will have a clear conscience……..as many others will also. I see no beam of light shineing on any of the four or those that dropped out. I dont even see any one on the horizon. The important thing is to try to get someone that at least resembles someone conservative……….if thats all we have to choose from. I would choose Rommy over McCain any day. Any day. I would vote for Paul over Rommy or McCain……..and Newt. I would not vote for Paul over Santorum. I will not vote third party. Those that do vote third party are dooming all. But then on a happier note……maybe enough that voted dem. last time will decide to vote rep. this time. Lotus.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:32pmI really hope Ron Paul has the guts to run 3rd party. I mean you started a movement Ron, and your base has grown much much greater than the “Legalize it”crowd. Lets follow through with it, and run 3rd party!!! Lets beat the odds and show that the media, money (which I love by the way), and parties do not control us!!!
All I have is my vote, I will not have it taken away by the jedi mind tricks of the media touting “a vote for paul is a vote for obama”….the only reason this mind trick becomes true is because lemmings fall for it every time….Not true at all, my vote is for freedom, and i’m going “all in” on it with my vote.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:41pmBottom Line: No- Bama . No Marxist . 2012
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:46pmI love the GOP thinking… nominate a giant douche and blame OTHER PEOPLE for not voting for him. Everyone knew what kind of support RP had a long time ago. The media, paid trolls, and rigged primaries sabotaged him and you want us to bow down and kiss the R ring? Screw that! Republicans and Democrats both SUCK. And as far as I can tell, they suck about the same. Moderate Republicans, should have sided with the Libertarian base rather than the whacky-ass religious right. They’ll vote for anyone with an R in front of their name. So it’s YOUR fault, not ours.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:59pmI am voting for Ron Paul this November. Either he is on the ballot or I will write him in. I am sick of crappy candidates. Dont even bother with the “so you are voting for Obama” crap. I am voting for principles, something you GOP sheep dont seem to have.
You can either try and get rid of Obama by voting in the only guy that wants to take us on a different course or you can cry in November after Obama crushes your candidate. I will be guy on these forums telling you, you deserve it.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:04pmJUST. So why hasn‘t Ron Paul remained in third party status if he’s so damned good and stayed away from carpet bag‘ing into the GOP for election purposes if we’re so bad. Paul is a con, but not a Conservative. He’s here to divide and nothing more when he enters Presidential politics. He’s a self-serving narcissist. Not a team player. I hope he goes third party, so he can doom Rand Paul and we can stop this Paul Revolution once and for all…
soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:25pmspeaking of romney….has anyone seen this article about his subliminal ads?? I dont know the source but it appears to be genuine
http://www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/2012/04/is-romney-campaign-using-subliminals-in.html
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 11:58pm@ Time: Try and give the definition of the word conservative without having to use google….
Report Post »resme
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:07am@justangry, Couldn’t have said it better myself +1 and +rep if i could.
Pay no attention to the self-serving people on this website. There is no “team-playing” in DC, I don’t look to my government. I will team play with my neighbors. When you lose liberty in increments, You either regain it all at once or you will never regain it.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross. ~ Sinclair Lewis
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:03pmThat last sentence in this article is a joke. Ron Paul is so far right of Obama, he makes the social, neo cons look like ********. Classical liberalism is indeed the rational approach to a better country — not this big r republican BS that is nothing more than modern day liberalism in sheep’s clothing.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:20pmyea that last sentance was a complete joke. Of course, obama campaigned on a humble foreign policy, less war, and more civil liberties but as president – he has been completely opposite. Obama has stoked more fires around the world, started multiple new wars, signed NDAA, and doubled down on the government spying and militarization of the government.
So the reality is that obama’s foreign policy is more like the other three republicans than ron paul…complete nonsensical journalism
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:25pmBarry‘s Reelection puts probably 2 more Kagan’s on the Supreme Court. And you are worried about Mitt???
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:28pm@13
Report Post »yes, we are still in the primary. you can chime in with those comments after the nominee is selected
colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:31pmUm…. Paul is more inline with Bush’s conservative foreign policy (when Bush was campaigning):
Take a look for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 11:31pmI would say that Ron Paul is to the right of all the other candidates. I think he hides his cards on the Iran issue too. (not for sure though). I think he would leave them alone and let Israel make them glow in the dark. They would deserve it if they got it. That’s their business if they want to die. I also think he would make and example out of any country that directly attacked us or blocked our trade routes. Has Christian morality, believes in the Constitution and is a fiscal hawk. By today’s definition that would be “right”. The kids love him too. That could help save this country.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:21amSoy, so are you saying you will support Mitt if he wins the nominee??
Report Post »That’s all I want to know.
The primary process is a process for a reason
I’m all for people voting for the guy they want now and then getting behind the nominee (whoever it may be) in November. A 3rd party candidate is bad though. It will most definitely divide the party and give Obama a huge advantage.
Furthermore, how can someone run as a Republican, lose the primary and then switch to a 3rd party? That’s bull.
Vote for your guy now. But get behind the 1 and only nominee when this is over.
We need to unite for the sake of our republic!
Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:22amI‘m actually ecstatic about our country’s future. Thanks to Ron Paul it will only take 2 election cycles to totally destroy this ridiculous 2 party from the same momma system we have. The R’s once again do not learn from history repeating their 08 nominee with a moderate war monger who has no chance of winning not matter if he can try to pull a Sarah Palin lite out of his hat. No one gets elected on the VP pick ***insert John McCain***…..
There is no difference between the R’s and Obama.
– Cut spending? Nope just cut proposed increases (Just like Obama)
– Balance the budget? Nope Ryan‘s plan doesn’t do it for 30 years (10 years later than Obama)
– End the wars and tillions spent on them? Nope can’t wait for the next country to invade (Just like Obama)
– Wants to give the people back the power that government has stolen from them given to them by the Constitution? (Nope, Same as Obama No freedom is off limits for government to take)
Congratulations “Republicans” you have just became the pre-civil war “Whig Party” with just 2 election cycles! Hopefully Ron Paul pulls enough support in the general from both the R‘s and the D’s so when this currency collapses because of your R & D policies we can have someone who actually believes in the Constitution in office to restore our country back to the way it was designed.to be. 2012 the death of the Neo-Fascist-Marxist-Republicrats!
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:56pm“See, even his supporters won’t answer the question….Bacon or sausage?” See that’s the problem we only get two choices and neither of them are very healthy for us.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:35pmBoth are better than Marxism which starves EVERYONE ( except the “dear leader” elite ! oh, those vacations are lovely ! )
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:24am@Barber Marxism and Fascists both starve their people. No difference between the two parties!
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:52pmRon Paul? Is that the guy who loads spending bills with pork for his home district, then votes against the bill? Of course, the bills pass and his district gets the pork. Then, he claims he‘s a limited gov’t guy because he voted against the bill.
What a total fraud. Anybody who follows/worships this guy should have a lobotomy.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:59pmYep..what a fraud..the only one who has spent his time in Congress voting against tax hikes and for freedom.. the only man to stand for the Constitution.. We should know better than to vote anyone in who could possibly help us.. How unAmerican. The nerve of that little doctor anyway. After all..who would want to belong to a club that would have us as a member..right?
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:07pmUmmm……
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“In a long-forgotten tape from the 2002 Massachusetts governor’s race obtained by ABC News, Mitt Romney is seen touting his Washington connections and his ability to get millions of taxpayer dollars from the federal government.
“I am big believer in getting money where the money is,” Romney says on the video, “The money is in Washington.”
The video, which was surreptitiously shot by Democratic opponents of Romney on Oct. 16, 2002, shows him addressing a group called the New Bedford Industrial Foundation. The Power Point presentation he uses lists ways to improve economic development in Massachusetts, including “boost federal involvement.”
“I want to go after every grant, every project, every department in Washington to assure that we are taking advantage of economic development opportunities,” Romney tells the group.
And while Romney now often criticizes his opponents for being Washington insiders, in this video he touts his Washington connections.
“I have learned from my Olympic experience that if you have people who really understand how Washington works and have personal associations there you can get money to help build economic development opportunities,” Romney says.
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soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:14pmJust like when you pay taxes and then expect to get social security when you are older….I work, i pay social security taxes. and when i get old – i will take social security. But i can still go around telling people that social security is a ponzi scheme and needs to be reformed or abolished.
There is no difference
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:50pmBottom line: this is an election between Marxism ( The “New” Democrats ) versus capitalism ( the Republicans ) Very simple.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:58pmThe same capitalist Republicans who’s president said “I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free-market system” (GWB, 2008)?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:13pmThat’s crony capitalism and fascist corporatism. What we have now is not true capitalism. Bailing our corporations, and subsidizing corporations, and heavily regulating every industry is NOT what a free market looks like.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:30pmJOHNNY: No. We have never faced an avowed Marxist in the Democrat Party. This is an historic election . Marxism versus Capitalism. This is no longer the Donkey versus the elephant,. This is the Hammer & Sickle versus the Elephant. Whole New Ballgame. Please wake up !
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:33pmCOLT: so true Marxism is better ? Get real . Obama is not only a Marxist but Mr. CRONY Solyndra STUPID Marxist !
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:41pmPlease wake up?
I’ve got news for you pal. Your elephant “anybody but Obama” candidate supports the NDAA bill, deficit spending, wars and WILL NOT make efforts to get rid of Obamacare.
I don’t understand this huge glob of voters who are only voting party…. what do you think will change with Romney? You cannot expect him to balance the budget, stop Obamacare or really decrease the size of government.
What issue exactly are you voting for anyways?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 11:19pm@barber2 I never said true Marxism is better. That’s absurd. I was just pointing out a technicality… On another note, Bush ran a “capitalist” position and yet gave bail outs to banks, and gave billion dollar contracts to corporation in bed with big unions, e.g. TSA. I could go on. It’s ALL Marxism. Control of all industry, Government intervention in private business, external control of our money supply, easy credit, etc. all leads to Marxism.
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:38amAnyone who calls the Republican platform capitalism is plainly a fool, and the statement itself is an oxymoron at the finest point. Expanding the size of government (No Child left behind, Medicare part D, George Bush/Rick “Frothy” Santorum)(Creating state run health care, Mitt Romney)(Balancing the budget by stealing from the Social Security Trust/Newt Gingrich) is the EXACT opposite of capitalism!
Government produces nothing therefore has NO CAPITAL to spend on these “projects.” The spending on these products REQUIRES confiscating CAPITAL (Wealth) from the capitalist system to fund them and distribute that CAPITAL to others. Expansion of ANY government program in any form is no different than what Obama tried to do with healthcare, REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH PERIOD……
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:50pmRomney says he loves the Federal Reserve…..
……and that he thinks that Bernanke is doing a great job:
Mitt Romney: “I’m Not Going To Focus On The Fed”
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barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:56pmBottom line: No- Bama 2012.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:02pm@KidCharlemagne
Report Post »There‘ll be plenty of time to work on things like the Fed after we get 0bama’s plan stopped. If we don’t get that stopped, we won’t get another chance.
KidCharlemagne
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:11pmqpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:02pm
@KidCharlemagne
There‘ll be plenty of time to work on things like the Fed after we get 0bama’s plan stopped. If we don’t get that stopped, we won’t get another chance.
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Obama‘s plan IS Romney’s plan though….
That’s why the vast majority of both of those candidates financial support comes from the same place (Wall Street).
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:16pm“Most Americans have no real understanding of the operations of the international moneylenders… the accounts of the Federal Reserve have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and… manipulates the credit of the United States ” – Goldwater
“Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)
“But if in the pursuit of the means we should unfortunately stumble again on unfunded paper money or any similar species of fraud, we shall assuredly give a fatal stab to our national credit in its infancy. Paper money will invariably operate in the body of politics as spirit liquors on the human body. They prey on the vitals and ultimately destroy them. Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice.” , George Washington letter to Jabez Bowen.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:22pmyay – party time! Surely this will continue forever!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:29pm@qpwillie I agree with your last statement. However, rejecting and maligning those who are most inline with the right, and who share the same goals, albeit in somewhat different methods, is not helping you, or me, out at all. What the GOP establishment is doing to those patriotic Americans who are fighting to save this country, just like you and me, is despicable. Your division and nasty statements towards folks who would stand right next to you fighting against this Marxist agenda is disheartening and very unfortunate. In a time of great strife, you don’t look to divide the people, you look for ways to unite and to stand together. And that goes for anyone.
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:47pmIf Romney is the candidate then anyone to the right of Obama needs to support him. That includes Ron Paul. We need to get the charlatan Obama out of the White House. Romney isn’t my choice either but he would be 1000x better than Obama!
Report Post »black9897
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:08pmRomney’s pretty much the same as BO. So It’s Ron Paul or die.
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:20pmBut Paul is not in the lead. Do you think Paul can win a 3rd party vote? I believe there is no choice but support the Republican nominee, or put up with 4 more years of “fundamental transformation”.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:34pmBLACK? Ron Paul couldn’t manage his “racist, bigoted and anti-semitic” Newsletters… and you think Ron Paul can manage a country?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:45pm@time
i would be willing to bet that after he hung up his congressman hat, he was just leveraging his last name and was far more interested in his real job – being a doctor
i dont even know what made him come back into politics – but i bet he would have done it differently if he knew he would be back in congress
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:57pmSOY. Did you know that He (Paul), Murray Rothbard and Lew Rockwell actively sought donations from jew hating subscribers to an anti-Semitic magazine called “The Spotlight” during one of Paul’s earlier Congressional campaigns? Paul and his associates have been pandering to that type of crowd for years and years. Rothbard thankfully is dead, but the stink of Rockwell still lingers…
Report Post »TRONRADIO
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:02pmI conversed with Lew Rockwell via email last week; invited him on my show. He asked what the topic would be. I told him we would talk about the election; I told him I was not a Paul supporter, though I thought he had good ideas concerning finance, commerce, and our economy. Haven’t heard back. Lew, you out there?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:07pm@time2
i have no idea – i have never heard of it – and therefore cannot judge those guys. i go to lewrockwell.com on a regular basis and have never seen anything of the sort.
I dont put much stock in individuals. What i want out of our nominee is principles based on the constitution, freedom, and the founding ideals of this country.
on a side note, you should really find an image that suits your name. i cant take you seriously with that default image – reminds me of anonymous
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:11pmTRON. Tell Llewellyn I said hello if he comes on… Lol.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:19pmSOY. Well, if you‘re going to speak on Ron Paul’s behalf… you ‘ought to research and completely know the whole Ron Paul story from beginning to present. You think I vehemently dislike this guy ’cause I have nothing better to do and just picked a target? Ron Paul and his associations have just as much stink to it as Obama’s. I judge the [entire man] and his [entire body of work]… not just the nice sound bites like freedom and liberty and sound money….
Report Post »TRONRADIO
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:20pmWill do, TIME2! {:
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:54am@ Time: If you’re going to speak on the Anti-Paul behalf, you should probably get new material that multiple people including myself hasn’t debunked your claims months ago……Please get some new material……PLEASE!!!!!, there is such thing as Google I’m sure you can find some new conspiracy stuff you will like out there……whatever you do though while on Google do NOT type in your man Frothy’s last name……There has Never been a Presidential candidate ever to get their own special definition for their last name until now and that is the guy you like……says a lot about yourself.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:37pmI‘m glad ron paul is finally starting to take issue with romney’s policies. I wish he had made it clear from the begining that Romney offers very little change compared to what is needed.
Why should ron paul say who he will and wont support when the republicans havent even nominated someone yet?
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:30pmFace it peeps. You split the Conservative vote…we lose our freedoms and America for good. I can’t be any more simple than that. Maybe Mitt isn’t your guy. If you prefer the Anti-Christ then just go ahead and split the vote.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:38pmThe GOP establishment making sure another McCain is nominated, ain’t exactly gonna help much either.
Report Post »countrysideflair
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:46pmRon Paulites continue to be marginalized and ignored; that would anger me rightly so, so much that I might write-in for the hell of it. If both the mainstream Republicans and Democrats take us to the same place… why not turn it into an amusement ride… roller coaster… wheeee!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:48pmThe problem is that the GOP establishment ain’t that Conservative anymore. The GOP establishment has failed us again. If it weren’t for the TEA party in 2010 (independents, conservatives, libertarians, democrats, constiuttionalists, etc.) there would be NO Republican majority in the house today. THE GOP HAS FAILED TO SEE THAT.
“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!” – Goldwater
“I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is “needed” before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents’ “interests,” I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.” – Goldwater
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:01pmDo you realize what you just said? And if this is true..then he will go back in…we couldn’t do anythng about it the last time..so what makes you think we can this time? We have a dicktator. That should have been clear the first go around.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:03pmTotally agree. The Hoodie Anarchist Crowd is in Obama’s camp any way. Just part of their Plan B: Divide the Dumb Conservatives! Ain’t buying. Ain’t voting for a Marxist. Obama has been outed. Guess they’ll go to Plan C : Occupy / Civil unrest .
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:21pmGingrich, Santorum, and Romney would all sign similar bills, except Paul:
“On March 16th, 2012, President Obama signed a new Executive Order which expands upon a prior order issued in 1950 for Disaster Preparedness, and gives the office of the President complete control over all the resources in the United States in times of war or emergency. The National Defense Resources Preparedness order gives the Executive Branch the power to control and allocate energy, production, transportation, food, and even water resources by decree under the auspices of national defense and national security. The order is not limited to wartime implementation, as one of the order’s functions includes the command and control of resources in peacetime determinations… The Obama administration appears to be preparing for a long drawn out war in the Middle East, or at the very least, an expected crisis that will require the need to override Constitutional authority and claim dominion over all resources in the United States under the guise of national defense.” http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-signs-another-take-over-executive-order-over-all-us-resources-pay-attention-its-alrea/question-2525265/
Bush signed similar bills when he was in office.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:21pmCouldn’t Ron Paul, I’m sure a man of conscience and conviction, just look at this election as our only chance to defeat Barack Obama and his Marxist policies ? The damage this president’s failed policies – which include all areas ( foreign, domestic, and international ) – are a disaster for our country and the world at such a critically dangerous time . With this in mind , perhaps Mr. Paul could support ANY candidate other than the current “ Manchurian ” Candidate we have today in the White House. This is more than an election for America. This election is a survival moment. To re-elect this president, especially at this time, would be a disaster.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:28pmNominating McCain and giving the election to Obama was a disaster. Obama winning reelection is only the result of that disaster. There’s no way in hell that a Gingrich or Santorum will beat Obama. MARK MY WORDS.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:32pmmy feeling exactly. mr paul while he may have some great ideas, needs to get with the ultimate goal here.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:39pmron paul’s goal is to wake the people up and encourage politicians who will eventually shrink the size of government and increase liberty and freedom. The other three republicans cannot do it – so ron paul is looking ahead.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:55pmSOY: Shrink away ! Good idea. Curb the deficit ! Needs to be done BUT : Bottom line : No Bama 2012 !
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:26pmconservativecandidate2012
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 1:07amIdiots who think the ultimate goal is to replace a Marxist “D” with a Fascist “R” is misplaced with what the “goal” actually is……During the American Revolution there were 1/3 who supported the King “D’s”, 1/3 who rather have a different King”R’s”(formerly the Whigs), and the 1/3 who wanted individual freedom from any King.
2012 the year The Republicrats are coming, the Republicrats are coming…….
Report Post »Eugene1
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:20pmRon Paul will line up and support Romney if Paul wants any chance of any of his positions to reach the Republican platform at the convention. If Paul runs third party ticket, he only cements Obama for another 4 years.
I‘m just sayin’ . . . . .
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:41pmits funny how you value his supporters so much but you dont value his ideas. His ideas are the same ideas of the founders – but you would rather play politics. The republican establishment has already made it clear that they do not respect his ideas. It is possible the republican voters will demand it – but that has little to do with what ron paul does
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:49pmYour premise is off Eugene. You assume that that every voter will either vote for an “R” or a “D”. You also assume that Paul supporters are first Republicans, then conservatives. The case may be that once Paul is off the ticket – the 10% block of his followers may stay home.
“anybody but Obama” What is the ticket was Obama vs Van Jones? I am sure many Paul supporters feel that way about Obama vs Romney.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:19pm“Except for the Federal Reserve point, the irony is that all of these reasons arguably place Paul closer to Barack Obama in terms of philosophical predispositions than Romney”
You can’t be serious. That is purely fabricated, distorted, opinionated commentary.
Obama has basically extended all laws that Bush signed into law that dealt with national security. In fact, Obama, like Bush, have made the Government BIGGER, eg. TSA, DHS, NDAA, etc. In fact, Obama and the other three candidates domestic policy regarding national security are about the same.
Paul is more inline with Mr. Conservative Goldwater, not Romney.
“I told Johnson and old colleagues on Capitol Hill that we had two clear choices. Either win the [Vietnam] war in a relatively short time, say within a year, or pull out all our troops and come home.” – Goldwater
Report Post »Workforit
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:19pmReally?
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:10pm.
Report Post »I still think a SpankDaMonkey/Beck ticket 2012, would be better than what we’ll get with Mitt…..
SychinLegacy
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:09pmDon’t sell out too Ron.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:09pmNo – this reporter is wrong. Those people in the tea party who support Ron Paul will not “follow” him.
If RP says vote Romney because he is a republican, we just won’t vote at all.
Ron Paul is not the leader of the liberty movement, he is just our best candidate. If he turns his back on liberty we will drop him like a hot potato.
That said, I don’t think RP will support Romney now or in the future unless Romney makes promises that turn this country around. This is not the last election we will have to fight for, we will be fighting until the day this country turns around or until the day we find a better place to go (and that place hasn’t shown up yet).
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:16pm“This is not the last election we will have to fight for,”
If you foolishly help 0bama get reelected, this will be the last election you’ll get a chance to fight for.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:25pm@qpwillie I guess repeating a lie a million times makes it true. You’re nothing but a troll now. You repeat the same nonsense over and over.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:26pm@QPWILLIE
If you foolishly nominate Romney what makes you think we will be any better off? Who paid for Romney’s campaign? What will Romney do when elected? He never says. Yet he out spent everyone 10:1. What was his message – he didn’t have one, he ran attack ads. You don’t know who you are supporting or what he stands for.
My guess is Romney is a global govt funded candidate or he is funded by the war corporations (but I think that‘s Santorum’s gig).
No, I’ll pass on Romney unless he makes the commitments to end this socialist big govt war machine.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:30pm@inblack
Report Post »When you say “we” and “our”, you don’t know what kind of people you are associating yourself with. There are very few “Ron Paul supporters”. Most of them are Paulie cult members who will gladly help to permanently destroy this country in retaliation for people who won’t honor their mighty leader.
qpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:38pm@inblack
You seem to think 0bama is just another progressive. Romney or anybody else would interrupt the plan of which 0bama already has a large portion implemented. Romney is not my first choice but I do know what 0bama is about and I know he must be stopped as soon as possible if this country is to survive.
The fatal mistake would be to think all the candidates are the same …… not to mention that notion bordering on insanity.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:43pminblack is right. RP supporters are not sheep like other supporters. IT DOESNT MATTER WHO RON PAUL THINKS IS BEST. RP supports value freedom and liberty – which means we will make up our own minds, individually
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:53pm@colt1860
Report Post »Alinski rule #5 won’t work on me. ……No matter how much you admire ol’ Saul.
inblack
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:04pm@QPWILLIE
I’ll give you this, Obama is beyond a doubt a Marxist. Sadly until americans figure out that he is destroying the country we won’t be able to stop him.
I’ll say simply, without a commitment from Romney to end big govt, he will not get my vote.
So far the republicans have a horrible record for running small govt, constitutionalist. Until they do I’m a registered republican looking for a new party.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:23pm@qpwillie That’s your problem. You assume everyone (you come off that way) that supports Paul’s candidacy thinks the same. Fact is, you repeat that same crap every time. I don’t admire any leftists at all. Period. If you want a country wherein citizens must vote one way, then go to Cuba, or North Korea. I will not blame the RIGHT of the people to vote for whom they want. You’re getting mad at voters who will not vote for the Republican nominee. I as a Republican, will make sure to vote for the best candidate in the primary, and will vote for the nominee. That’s MY right. I will not blame others for exercising that right. At the end, the people get the Government they deserve.
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:00pmRon will probably endorse the libertarian or constitution party candidate. Sorry Mitt we’re just not that into you.
Report Post »Glenn in Virginia
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:06pmSo, you prefer to re-elect Obumbler?
Report Post »pinostabaum
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:23pmGlenn, it does not matter. Obama or Romney is not a choice. Their differences are cosmetic. One will take us down the path of ruin quickly, and one will take his time. We need an opposition party. We need a real difference in direction. If it takes bloodying the nose of the Republican party to turn it into real opposition, if it takes going quickly down the path of ruin to realize we need to change direction, so be it.
I will not waste my vote on a false choice. I will vote Paul, or I will vote Johnson. I will vote to go in the opposite direction.
Report Post »llotus
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:55pmOperationnorthwood……….Together We Stand, Divided We Fall. Simple as that. Lotus.
Report Post »waspanglosaxon
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:58pmRon Paul is simply showing that – unlike most politicians – principles do actually mean something to him. All of the people here who say “Better get behind whoever the Republican Party nominates” miss this point by a country mile.
Report Post »I, for instance, voted third party in the last (2008) election. Why? Because Juan McCain was just too, too much like Obama.
GoodStuff
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:58pmPrinciples? – Like loading bills with pork for your home district. Yeah, those principles? Snap out of it…you’ve been hoodwinked.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:51pmI work and pay social security taxes. I hate social securty. But when i get older, i will take social security (because i have already paid for it). At the same time, i still think social security is a ponzi scheme and should be reformed or abolished.
It is the same way with congressional districts – they have paid into the system. The government loves to overtax us, that way they can dole out favors and make us (and the congressional districts) subservent to the feds. Ron paul has supported earmark reform from day 1
I dont know why you hate ron paul so much. He is the most serious candidate on economic issues. you must hate libertry, freedom, or your future…or maybe all
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:57pmBut Mr Giggley Rumpled suit had absolutely NO problem endorsing Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader for POTUS in ‘08? He’s a man of principle they say…
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:02pmRonnie will endorse 0bama…… or else he won’t get paid for working to help him get reelected for the last two years.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:18pmRepresentative Ron Paul held a news conference support third party presidential candidates and urge his supporters to consider backing independent candidates rather than the Republican or Democratic nominees. He was joined by independent Ralph Nader, the Green Party’s Cynthia McKinney and the Constitution Party’s Chuck Baldwin. Representative Paul did not endorse a specific candidate
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:30pmHe might as well QP… this whiney and vindictive little endorser of Communism, Socialism and anti-capitalism by way of McKinney and Nader last time around sure made it easier for Obama to get elected didn’t it? Not to mention the thousands of his supporters who actually DID vote for Obama in ‘08 for his anti-war stances. Obama sure fooled THOSE suckers didn’t he? Lol. Paul is now considered a foreign policy progressive even LEFT of Obama.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:37pmQP: Paul supporters who write here sound just like the anarchist wackos who comment in the New York Times. They are so far left that maybe they almost feel like libertarians, BUT they are Obama Far Left Liberals – especially since he sanctified hoodies ! They are the ” let’s have a revolution ” Crowd. Obama will be their man. The Republicans need to make sure that true, old school Libertarians need to know that they have been “ Occupied ” by anarchists who want to re-elect Obama. A disaster – especially for a Libertarian who will not want Big Brother in control !
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:45pmFrom the Boston Globe on September 10, 2008:
“Former presidential candidate Ron Paul urged his supporters today to vote for a minor-party candidate, saying that he had rejected a last-minute appeal from Republican John McCain for his endorsement.”
While many people assume he endorsed Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin Ron Paul also endorsed Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader in a vote-for-one-of-them proclamation.
How does one reconcile this… He ran for president as a Republican and when he lost, instead of congratulating the man who won and offering his support, Ron Paul not only did not campaign for John McCain, he campaigned against him. WHAT A GUY THAT RON PAUL!! He drools with RINO spittle…
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:45pmtime2
glad to see you are back at the helm. did you take a vacation or something? i saw a couple rp articles that you did not ‘contribute’ to
i thought you said ron paul supported obama in 2008?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:50pmDr NeoLib has never support a conservative. So I think he will support Mitt. After all Dr Fugazi has been playing Romney’s wing-man.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:55pm@BARBER2 You may as well vote for Obama or Santorum..same as Obama except for being a muslim brother..Paul is the “ONLY” one who can balance the budget..the rest have no plans except to increase the debt with those blood money wars.this is exactly what you are standing for..please watch to the end. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+rothchilds&mid=6B1289A1F90FE9B2F25B6B1289A1F90FE9B2F25B&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:10pmSOY. Had some family in from the Northeast, and attended a funeral for an Army CSM friend of mine… so my TIME_ was spent elsewhere catching up with family and old friends…
I never said Paul supported Obama by proclamation in any way shape or form if that’s what you mean… but he might as well have right??
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:35pmsorry to hear about your friend
i thought you had said that before – maybe it was just an educated guess. nah, not “might as well”. Chuck baldwin was a great candidate and i voted for him. You should look him up – he’s now out there in montana doing crazy things like shooting things and keeping the feds out of their business
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:36pmbut i didnt know that ron paul had endorsed baldwin until after the election. great minds think alike
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:38pmASHES: If you allow Obama to be re-elected you will doom America to your name ! No-Bama 2012.
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:47pmREPUBLICORP. You are/and you may be right… lol.
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:00pmAll the big governemt suckers on the same thread YAY! TRENDY!
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:07pmEND. How’s being stuck 1984 been working out for you?
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 11:26pm@BARBER2 Do you really believe we can vote him out? Really? I did not vote him in..I don‘t he could lose even if he got no votes because of who’s behind him. We don’t count..the election as I said before..is merely a formality..that is why I want a Constitutionalist. so we the people can run the country again..Do you really think we can stand against the 500 trillion of the Federal Reserve Rothchilds?
Report Post »9635kari
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:53pmWhy does the Blaze of anyone care who Ron Paul will or will not support? What is so important about him that we are waiting with baited breath to see who he will vote for?
Report Post »pinostabaum
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:34pmIts because of people like me. There are a good 10-15% of people currently voting in the Republican party who plan to bolt if the party does not become more libertarian.
Recent polling suggests that if Ron Paul goes independent, he will take 17% of the vote.
When thrown in the mix, Libertarian hopeful Gary Johnson polls at 9% against Obama and Romney. If Paul decides to endorse Johnson, his numbers could rise above 15%
Paul leads the Americans Elect primary process. If he is drafted, or if he and Johnson decide to partner on this ticket, they could poll higher combined than either does individually.
If any of these scenarios occur, there will be three candidates in the presidential debates, as in 1992.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:52pmIt‘s too bad Paul won’t get the nomination but I’m sure Mitt will slash trillions from the budget especially if the republicans get a majority in both houses.LMAO Mittens will do nothing of the sort because this government is addicted to spending and they’ll continue to spend right into the next depression.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:12pmYou sound like quite the soothsayer
Report Post »Tankertony
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:51pmWhile I could care less who he eventually supports, I have to wonder about his acolytes. I sense many digruntled paulistinians will be lured by the progressive tricksers and will vote obummer.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:19pmYou people are deaf aren’t you.
Those of us in the tea party and who support Ron Paul for president hate Obama.
So why would we vote in Obama-lite?
Also after Glenn Beck said he would not vote for Ron Paul or Newt, why do you people have the nerve to claim that not voting for Romney is some kind of collusion with the devil.
We’re sick of progressive liberal republicans and we will not stay on the farm and vote for them, even if it means that we have to watch Obama make the country worse vs Mitt making it worse.
Let Mitt come out and promise a trillion dollars cut in spending the 1st year, let him promise to balance the budget, let him promise to eliminate every dept except justice and defense. Until then I’d rather die than vote for another liberal republican puppet.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:36pmI am a TEA Party member also and when you purist, cocksure RPer’s spout ,, anyone who isn’t one of you are deaf, or stupid,Well, you can personally KMA. The TEA Party isn’t the preserve of Ron Paul. This very well might be the last election, and I would rather have RP and his followers prod , Whomever is nominated in the Conservative, Constitutional direction. But being insulted and Third PARTIED for a whim, is lunacy.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:46pm@tankertoy
you are a fool. Ron Paul is the defender of the constitution and enemy of big government.
if you hate ron paul – you must love obama
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:54pm@13TH IMAM
Wow what a jerk. I never called you anything so I can only assume you are feeling guilty about abandoning the liberty this country is built on and are getting touchy about it.
If you can read, you’ll note that Tanker implied that people who support Ron Paul would be lured by progressives and vote FOR Obama. His being deaf is about thinking tea party constitutionalists would vote for or like Obama.
If you are part of the tea party you already know that Ron Paul does not own the tea party, no one does, but those of us in the tea party that support Ron Paul support him because he is the only candidate that meets our demands of small govt.
If you vote in Romney, my vote is contingent on commitments to end big govt and end giving away our sovereignty to world govt. If Romney can’t guarantee that, I don’t have a party or a candidate.
If you don’t like that, vote your (R) but I won’t and you can KMA. Hurl your names, but I’ll defend your right to make a vote that I think is stupid. I‘m in this fight until it’s over and in my view, Romney is not currently worth voting for.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:08pmTANKERTONY I would not risk selling my soul to Satan.. I researched the entity while he was running against Hil..saw where he was from..saw that he voted against Israel every time until he started running for office and I predicted his win over Hilary and his placement in the Presidency. Rothchilds run the show. they own the media including Reuters..they tell you people what to think. I find it interesting that they chose a Muslim.. because even though fascism and Islam are joined..they will wind up battling it out. Paul is the only man I believe who is not a part of this. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+rothchilds&mid=6B1289A1F90FE9B2F25B6B1289A1F90FE9B2F25B&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:20pmRPer’s Hate Obama, But to prove some Point we will vote for Ham Sangrigh to feel Better about ourselves. Much like DEMOCRATS. Vote your D. Feel proud
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:23pm13TH. Hmmmmm… and I was “kicking a dead horse” or something to that effect right? Lol.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:37pm13th IMAM Do you remember when Achmedinjad was “re-elected“ and was killing people in the streets because they were rebelling and our ”entity” was okay with that? Do you believe the people elected Achmedinjad? Do you really think that we can get someone else elected?.. who runs the show? Who runs the Federal Reserve? It’s not us..The election is just a formality.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:04pmIf the election is a foregone conclusion, why don’t the Anti Obama vote for the one that can beat Barry??? The ONLY one.
Report Post »No Free Beer
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:48pmWow, a man who stands on principle rather than on party politics.
Only if other Americans saw what I see…
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:56pmIf we could see what Biden sees, we would know what Obama’s Colon looks like.
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Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:01pm“Only if other Americans saw what I see…”
I see the other crap that is Ron Paul and his Revolution. The crap that his acolytes like to ignore, or try to spin into the sweet smell of a Texas Rose…
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:30pmRon Paul has been Occupied by the hoodie Anarchist Crowd which make all of the smart aleck comments here and are really members of the FAR ends of both Left and Right and just seem to live in the ” World of No Rules, Molotov Cocktails, and Drugs ! ” At least that is what their comments imply. Amazing difference as Ron Paul seems so straight and principled albeit a tad daft in the common sense foreign policy area. ( I await the assault to come from the ” crude/ rude” dudes ! )
Report Post »pinostabaum
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:43pmBarber2, Have you heard about the vast libertarian conspiracy? We want to take over the government and then… leave you alone.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 8:41amlol PINO,
I’ll have to remember that one.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:45pmRon Paul still hasn’t decided on breakfast, come on Ron, bacon or sausage?
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:58pmHis reasons align him more closely to that of Obama’s? Really?? LOL He said nothing that aligns himself to Obama..Do you see the media manipulation? Paul said that no one
Report Post »is interested in looking into the Federal Reserve..Paul did this and found an open check if memory serves for 16 trillion.. He said Bush enlarged the liberal Dept of Education and went wild with spending didn’t he? Didn’t he say Bush ran on an opposite promise of what he did? Didn’t Obama do the same..but everyone here is thrilled to death to be policing the world while we let them further the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood here and abroad.. here sheeple sheeple sheeple.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:59pmSee, even his supporters won’t answer the question….Bacon or sausage?
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:29pmIf you think the game is R vs D, then you’ll hate Ron Paul for not supporting Romney.
If you understand what this country REALLY needs then you know supporting Romney is nonsensical.
When Romney is the nominee, as a Paul supporter, I will not suddenly support Romney. I will also not support Obama. NEITHER candidate represents a future for America.
Just for the record… Mitt Romney is ideologically closer (much closer than you probably think!) to Obama than Paul is. If anything, Ron Paul is the antithesis to Obama. I seriously question the mental capabilities or the sincerity of any person who thinks Ron would support Obama.
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