Ron Paul Wins Values Voter Summit Straw Poll, Followed by Herman Cain, Rick Santorum
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Texas Rep. Ron Paul won the Values Voter Summit presidential straw poll Saturday. (AP Photo)
Texas Rep. Ron Paul won the Values Voter Summit presidential straw poll by a healthy margin Saturday, followed by Herman Cain and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.
Paul received 37 percent of the vote, Cain got 23 percent and Santorum netted 16 percent.
Perhaps surprisingly, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann tied for fourth place, each receiving 8 percent of the vote at the social conservative conference held in Washington, D.C.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney came in fifth place with 4 percent of the vote, followed by former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich with 3 percent. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman placed last with 0 percent.
Paul wove many biblical references into his Saturday speech at the summit, and equated wars with the destruction of the family, USA Today reported.
“Wars generally lead to inflation, the destruction of money,” Paul said. “We invite this idea that we can spend endlessly and we can print the money, and literally it undermines the family and undermines the economic system. When you lose a job, it’s harder to keep the family together.”
One of the dominating news stories to emerge from the Values Voter Summit was Perry supporter Pastor Robert Jeffress’ comments that Romney belongs to a “cult” because he is Mormon. Perry distanced himself from the remarks, and radio host Bill Bennett delivered a sharp rebuke of Jeffress’ comments during his own speech.
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Comments (270)
Stonedage
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:09pmWhat more insane Ron Pauls foreign policies. or Herman Cains 999? to give the government another way to tax us on top of all the other tax’s is truely insane. At least Ron Paul has a voteing record to look at. Herman Cain was the CEO of a pizza place that took on the name of a mofia movie and was the head of the FED in Kansas city which is the mofia.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:18pmI think I am seeing 4 more years of Obama. Everyone get ready to prepare for financial ruin along with a 50 + % population of deadbeats who feed off the government. We will never be able to turn this around if over 50% are living off the federal dole. But then again I don‘t think Romney stood a chance of doing well here anyway and also since Romney hasn’t placed any resources towards straw polls. In 2008 Romney won several straw polls including Florida and lost the GOP nod. Go figure.
Report Post »Patriotmom54
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:18pmAre you unable to understand this simple 999 plan? It is NOT on TOP of other taxes. It gets rid of many of them first and replaces them. I do agree though that Paul’s foreign policy is insane.
Report Post »portague
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:33pmthe media keeps screwing up his 999 plan and can not due the math right so they are either intentionally missinforming you or just idiots. Look it up your self and actually research it and due the math their wrong. Paul getting first is good. i think paul and cain have there heads on better then the rest of the bozo’s.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:39pm@patriotMOM-First of all I think the 999 plan is a gimmick and a slogan much like Obama’s Hope and Change. I say this because in today‘s reality there is no way that this will get voted through Congress and my question would be what is Cain’s backup plan? Cain may spend a 1-2 years pushing a failing bill and lose valuable time and political capital. I prefer a detailed 59 point like Romney’s(which is more in the mold of Reagan); that Romney “realistically” could get passed through Congress which would have an immediate impact on the economy. Romney’s projections, I believe for 1st year job creation is at 11 mil . The new president will have to spend a significant amount of time repealing Obamacare and Dodd Frank and if Cain is attempting to rewrite the tax code and focusing all his efforts on passing that then the repeals of these major bills might be delayed. The new president will also have to focus on an ever increasing hostile world along with restructuring trade agreements to benefit American businesses.
From an election view point Cain may narrowly win the GOP but he will more than likely lose the National Election because if 47% of people are dependent upon the gov. now then I really don’t think they are going to buy into a consumption plus income tax.
I am a conservative and realist. I do not buy into flashy gimmicks and slogans-America bought into that with Obama and look what we got. Cain does not have a political record so how do we know if he would b
Report Post »portague
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:52pmdont start the political record gimmick look where that has got us. Their are few with a good political records that really reflects where they stand ( ron paul being one of the few). Cain plan if followed could lead to the end of the irs as we know it. Paul and Cain have ideas on how to gut agencies and make things better. Their probably the least 2 face people out their.
Report Post »Stonedage
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:58pmCain should of suck with the fair tax which 999 is not. to let the government have a sales tax ontop of income tax is insane. when asked what is to stop other progressave presidents from raising the 999 to 20 20 20 all cain had to say was nothing but the people to hold there feet to the fire. well we all know how well the government listen to the people
Report Post »portague
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:17pmGoing all or nothing in the fair tax would not get it implemented. At least he has an idea on how to get it implemented. Yes it is a good concern that more big spenders would turn it into a monstrosity. Getting it started at least opens the path to it being the only one however as you said it can open the path we do not want as well. We the people allowed the income tax to become this monstrosity and even rewarded these morons with reelection for doing it. The problem is it is our fault for not being involved enough to atleast try to get rid of the loons in office.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:21pmHistory lesson: Saddam invaded Kuwait, so Osama (our then shaky ally whom we supplied weapons to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan) offers up his fighters to the Saudi king to oust Saddam from Kuwait and regain control of the oil fields. However, the Saudi king chose to allow us to come in and remove Saddams army. This outraged Osama because he felt it was a Muslim affair and should be dealt with by Muslims. He despised the west and viewed it as an occupation. All they want is for us out of their lands. They dont hate our freedom or any garbage the media tries to spin. TPTB want the oil and they want us out. So for you people to say RP foriegn policy is extreme only screams media echo since you clearly dont know the history behind the first Gulf War which was the straw that broke the camels back for Osama to begin targeting us. I love seeing comments like “extreme”,“isolationist”, and such because it shows that you dont have a brain for yourself so you merely echo what your told by the news. Not attacking anyone here just want people to search history for themselves. The mainstream media will only spin the stories to fit the narrative they want to portray
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:30pm@USSOLDIER
Report Post »Thanks for the input. I would just like to add that the US HELPED PUT Saddam in power in the late 70‘s and funded and equipped him in the early 80’s. The nerve gas he sprayed on the Kurds was supplied to him by western countries, for supposed use against Iran. We sold him the helicopters, and he rigged them up with spray equipment, and went after people in his own country.
He wanted to invade Kuwait, because they were “slant drilling” across the border into his stash. The state department told him that “we don’t get involved with Arab affairs” and basically gave him the green light.
Remember the story of the Kuwaiti girl that supposedly saw “Iraqi soldiers throwing babies in incubators onto the floor?” That girl was a Kuwaiti Ambassador’s daughter. Educated in the US. Never SET FOOT in Kuwait. IT WAS ALL THEATER TO GET PEOPLE PUMPED UP
The same funding, training and equipping that was given to UBL and the Mujahadeen fighting a proxy war with the Russians, who got their BACKS broken in Afghanistan.
Afghanistan IS THE GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES.
CUT OFF ALL FOREIGN AID TO EVERYONE. INCLUDING ISRAEL.
We give their Arab “enemies” TWICE as much as we do them. It’s time for ALL of that to stop.
Israel has enough nukes to make that whole area a crater. Let them handle their business, we’ll handle ours.
We’re BROKE, and about to go up in flaming riots, if it is not stopped in time.
Bring ‘em home.
Put AMERICA FIRST.
2smart
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:02pm@stonedage. I don’t know where your info originated but Herman Cain himself said that the 999 tax could only be increased by a 2/3 vote from the Senate. That’s real hard to do. And as for the rest of ya’ll, We know the 999 plan won‘t make it in it’s present form. But it’s a start, all I see from the other candidates is a vague idea and buzz words wrapped around political gobbledegook. A lot of talk but short on substance.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:30pm@2smart-What is vague about Romney‘s and Gingich’s plans? The last time I looked at Cain’s plan the revenues were like 2.3 trillion that isn’t quite enough to cover the budget let alone reduce the deficit. I am sorry but I think Cain‘s initial plan of proposing a consumption tax will not even pass a vote in the House of Representatives and that House is controlled by Republican’s. I think there are a lot of good plans out there but people have to face reality. These plans have to be passed in a political system not a private corporation. If the government were a private system then we would be living life controlled by a dictator. People need to vote on plans that focus on reducing the size of government and plans that create favorable business environments and plans that will reduce the deficit.
Report Post »kung
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:56pmRaising the 999 to something higher would require 2/3 vote of congress and they‘d be voting to raise EVERYONE’S taxes instead of one class of people. That completely changes the dynamic. Once everyone has “skin in the game” they’re not going to welcome tax hikes. Right now, roughly half don’t pay ANY taxes. This sounds like a great plan — at the very least a great step toward the ultimate goal of a fair tax system.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 5:44am@Jefferson, I absolutely agree with you. We desperately need to throw off the labels that divide us and focus on America. If we dont there will not be an America left. The whole world financial system is about to implode and all I see is petty political bashing and needless matters being portrayed on the news. The mainstream media spits out lies and tells us we are in a recovery and now that they can no longer hide the lies with junk accounting (the real unemployment numbers, and consumer price index) they tell us we are on the verge of a double dip. One can simply observe your friends and family to see we are in a depression. What we are about to witness is every country for themselves. China is in trouble, we are in trouble, Europe is done and we continue to pump more money into a broken system. The very problem that caused our current situation. The OWS is noble and atleast Americans are waking up but going after Wallstreet is like trying to treat a bullet wound with a bandaid. The fundamental flaw is our monetary system. No nation in history has ever survived FIAT money. You cant have money that automatically just by its existence creates debt. If the tea party and OWS movement would only unite for one cause to end the federal reserve then worry about your pesky differences later then we could perhaps save this great country. Becuase if America falls where will you run to for freedom? What country will guarantee you rights by mere existance as a human being
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:07pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY&feature=player_embedded
Watch this if you want to better understand Ron Paul’s foreign policy. This is not totally comprehensive, but it light the fire of liberty in your heart and mind. This is the foreign policy of peace and prosperity!
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:13pmNo one will vote for him on his foreign policy, doesn’t the matter the rhetoric.
Instead they might support him due to his fight with the Fed. Though O‘Reilly and he do not get along they may agree on this point made by O’Reilly last night: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/oct/oreilly_control_spending.html
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:20pmO’Reilly is a tool and a bully. If you don’t agree with him, he shuts you down. If you prove him wrong, he yells over you and changes subjects. And if he doesn’t want to talk about something he simply ignores you. He has been part of the establishment for years.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:26pmWhen O’Reilly comes on tv, I change the channel to FOX BUSINESS news and Judge Nepolitano “Freedom Watch.” I get the news of the day and learn about the Constitution. What a deal!
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:31pmI LOVE Freedom Watch – Go Judge!
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:35pmWho would have EVER thought Ron Paul would have won this straw poll? A Libertarian, swimming in a sea of social conservative sharks? My faith is renewed in an American “Re-Founding”!
Andrew Napolitano for Attorney General! Freedom Watch is by far the best show left on any Fox Channel.
The uber-nationalistic neo-cons are overlooking the fact that Ron is pulling big numbers of moderate, independent leaning-Democrats who are waking up to the impending Socialistic nightmare. Ron may actually be the only Republican who can beat Obama soundly. The MSM is more afraid of independents and independent leaning democrats hearing Ron Paul – than the establishment Republicans are.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:46pmYeah, and Ron Paul didn’t even have a prayer meeting.
Report Post »He says he’s a Baptist Christian and he goes to church.
He also says, “I just don’t wear it on my sleeve.”
thewatcher93
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 2:53amThat is one way to paint something with a very broad brush.
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 2:55amThat is one way to paint a picture with a very broad brush.
Report Post »cavebat4ever
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:07pmRon Paul is very weak on defense. A vote for him is a vote for the destruction of the United States of America.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:11pmRon Paul is weak on most things, except most would say he is very strong on fiscal matters, though I still have problems with his earmark support and a few other things.
Everyone knows that his supporters are the strongest. They are so determined they will gather at Straw polls to fill the ballot box so I never take Ron Paul’s win too strongly. Instead look at the next person… Herman Cain. A great candidate. I say it is between him and Romney after Perry cut off his foot and should have shoved it into his mouth.
I would be so strongly behind a Cain/Romney or Romney/Cain. Both have the experience to turn this economy around and shrink govt.
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:15pmReplace “Ron Paul” with “Herman Cain”, and you are absolutely correct!
Report Post »Churchill
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:22pmHe’s a vet, which makes him more qualified than some. Being against nation building doesn’t make him weak on defense. His views on foreign policy are exactly the same as the founders. The Republican party has always been non interventionist when it comes to foreign policy until recently. Time to ditch the neo-cons aka RINOs.
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:27pm@churchill
Report Post »Isn’t Paul the definition of a RINO? hes a libertarian but runs as a republican, therefore, republican in name only. not saying its a bad thing but that term is getting a little silly now
Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:41pmthyblackman.com compares Ron Paul to Herman Cain
They said Ron Paul made Mr. Cain look like a Democrat! LOL
source: http://www.dailypaul.com/180673/thyblackman-ron-paul-herman-cain-s-different-philosophies-another-slam-dunk-rp-article
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:46pmNo Cavebat, Ron Paul is weak on THUGOCRACY, as it should be. He does not believe we need to be the bully, surrounding countries with aircraft carriers or setting up military bases in sovereign nations, flexing our military muscles to show off how strong we are.
Report Post »Did you read this story about Iran threatening to send ships offshore?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-iran-threatens-to-deploy-navy-off-u-s-coast/
Notice the healine reads ‘threaten’. So if the US does the same by parking aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf, as Romney wants to do, that is no different that Iran parking ships along the eastern seaboard.
Or are you really that myopic that you can’t see that?
Ron Paul wants a very strong DEFENSE. HE just wants to knock the military-industrila complex down a few notches. But warmongerers will never understand that.
kung
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:43pmI’m for Cain, but if he doesn’t get the nomination I could settle for Paul. Paul supporters won‘t consider any alternative candidate and that’s unfortunate. For their sake I hope he doesn’t start handing out poisoned Kool-aid.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:12amHow can we be weak if all of us are home and stationed in throught out the states? We are the greatest military the world has every seen. No country on the planet can stand toe to toe with us and come out on top. So how would all of us coming home and shutting down our base across the world make us weak? We have ICBM’S that can reach across the planet, we have bombers and aircraft and helicopters that can refuel in mid-air, we have drones that can fly across the planet and are controlled from nevada. Those are just a handful of our military capabilities. So for people to say that we would somehow be weak if we shut down all the bases would somehow make us weak has no undertanding of tactics or implementation of miltary capapbilities and is probably just regurgitating what the news told them
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:06pmI really do not give a rip about “straw polls”. They really mean nothing, and as far as the “values” deals, I am not so sure everyone is on the same page.
Report Post »truthseekerusa
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:15pmJenny
And don’t forget that Bachman won the Iowa straw poll after she brought in busloads of supporters and fed them. Where is she now? Almost at the bottom of the list.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:42pmStraw polls are meaningless. Paul will win anywhere the straw poll ballots are cheap, at $175 in Florida the paulbots couldn’t win the the straw poll. Values Voter Summit ballot cost $10 so it was ballot box stuffing time….Paul only gets 5% in the real votes at the end of the day.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 9:03pmOn the other hand, that means that only people who are not living hand-to-mouth (and most of this country IS,) can afford to take part in those expensive polls.
Just how is *THAT* not rigging the vote?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 11:14pmNORM D. PLUME either way, like I said…. straw polls are meaningless. John McCain proves that
Report Post »gregmerleforcongress
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:02pmMessage for John 1776. All Paul did was point out the obvious fact that there isn’t anything we can do to prevent Iran from having nukes short of going to war with them. He also later clarified that he doesn‘t want them to have nukes but at the same time he doesn’t want any more wars. We are presently bombing 6 different nations while we are going broke here at home. Not only is Ron Paul electable, he is necessary.
Report Post »hurricanerigger
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:09pmPaul/Cain…Cain/Paul… Is the ticket We The People need in 2012!!! Everyone wins!!!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:21pmI don’t know of anyone who wants more wars. I also don’t believe anyone on this earth can stop them from coming. We need somebody who will not be afraid to try to prevent them and deal with them strongly when it’s necessary.
Report Post »portague
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:41pmwith you hurricanerigger.
Report Post »paul has some good ideas as well as cain. Cain 999 plan is to try to move us in a direction to end the irs as we know it but will be diffucult due to the big spenders that will try to turn it into the same monster we got today. Paul want to end the fed and get us sound money. I think both could cover each other pretty well and get things done.
Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:43pmWith Mr. Cain’s lack of experience, he’d definitely need someone like Ron Paul by his side.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:51pm@ qpwillie Why do you assume that Paul wouls not attack strongly? He voted for the Afghanistan war. He says that when you go to war, you do so with the entire might of the US military and not be wishy-washy about it. Hit ‘em hard, knock ‘em out, then leave. No wasting time playing pc/nicey-nicey, and no nation building afterwards. Sounds perfect to me.
Report Post »louise
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:04amGreat comments
Report Post »itsmyfirstday
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:01pmI do like Ron Paul and Herman Cain. Hopefully the GOP will take them seriously or we could have 4 more years of failures…
Report Post »Vunks
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:58pmRon Paul 2012.
Report Post »sportlock
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:00pmIran obtaining nukes 2013?
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:02pmSPORTLOCK
Report Post »I thought they had them already. O ya, that was part of the war prop that didn’t work.
LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:05pmThere are 30,000+ nukes floating around the world from the Implosion of the Soviet Union. Israel has 300+. Is Iran who’s military (I personally know a Persian who was in the military there) cannot even fully supply or clothe their soldiers, who cannot even supply enough gas for their own country, who doesn’t have an AIRFORCE really do much with one supposed nuke?
Report Post »30,000 nukes! And they could have used them – it’s called mutual destruction/respect. Stop occupying and policing the world.
sportlock
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:39pmFading,
BTW, can I have a nuke too? Just one?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:45pmDennis Kucinich / Ron Paul 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4DRZP9JgBA&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL8297D096A32A3CAD
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:24pmWell since you brought it up, REPUBLICORP, there is a bi-partisian deal in the works about some bill being presented to Congress. I haven’t figured it out, but it’s supported by Dennis Kucinich / Ron Paul / Rlaph Nader and not sure who else. It’s supposed to be BIG, but what exactly — It’s to be announced/done next month.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:33pmForgot to add Dennis Kucinich is the Democrat anti-war person (most of the Democrats want war just like the Republicans). Paul will get many Democratic votes for that, not to mention the Independent votes he’ll gather. FOX news shows mostly Republican polls.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 11:08pmDennis Kucinich / Ron Paul / Rlaph Nader a Conservative’s dream
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:20am@ VUNKS
Your comment presumes we are currently preventing or intend to prevent Iran from finalizing the creation of their own nuclear arms arsenal.
Iran, essentially unaffected by sanctions and dismissive of western warnings, is merrily chugging right along with their nuclear enrichment and missile development programs. Indeed, Iran is unabated and apparently acting with absolute impunity as a primary exporter of terrorism. Iran also defiantly continues to fund and arm our enemy in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems Iran‘s tyrannical Islamic leaders are unconcerned that America’s military power certainly long ago should have and still could be, brought to bear on them.
Granted Iraq and Afghanistan do bracket Iran on their western and eastern borders respectively, which could be a huge militarily advantage to us, if we ever decide to actually stop Iran’s exportation of terrorism and their nuclear weapons development program by striking them militarily.
Do you see that happening or is Ron Paul correct by default?
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:26am@ sportlock
Actually that question about Dr. Paul being right by default is for you.
Report Post »gregmerleforcongress
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:57pmSomebody was wondering why this isn’t being reported. They only announced the results less than an hour ago and for the people who like Paul but don’t like his foreign policy should know that unless the two parties agree on cutting Medicare or Social Security here in the next few months, we will begin automatically cutting defense. So for you guys who think that we should continue being the world’s policeman, it’s all coming to an end soon because there is no way these guys are going to cut entitlements.
Report Post »TouchStoneMT
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:37amThen it’s time to get rid of “these guys” – and that includes the 20+year career politician ronpaul.
Anyone who’s naive enough to believe that oceans and distance are enough to protect America from attack must have slept through 9/11.
NATIONAL DEFENSE is actually STIPULATED by the Constitution ronpaul claims to revere so much, while entitlements ARE NOT.
You’d choose to retain the mutts and programs in D.C. who are stealing from our grandchildren – AND put their lives in jeopardy by gutting defense – inviting attack by showing weakness to lunatics who are eager to wrap themselves in explosives and blow themselves onto American TV sets just for the CHANCE of convincing people like you to tuck tail and run.
This is the real world, and you paulistinians need to wake the hell up.
Report Post »There really ARE people who want to kill you out there, and it’s only the US military – and some few of our allies – who stand between you (AND ronpaul) and the mutts who want to kill you.
thewatcher93
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 3:30am“I invented the butter knife and sold to a guy who used it to kill someone and it is my fault because I invinted the butter knife,” is the kind of logic in regards to Paul’s view on foriegn policy. It is not so much the “worlds police” as it is finishing the job we started. As far as I am concerned we did all we could in Iraq it is up to the people of Iraq now and we should come home and Afganistan crush the enemy and come home. It is Ron paul‘s attitude to foriegn policy I don’t like.
Report Post »enigma5mb
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 11:37amHere is something to consider. If Obamacare is struck down as unconstitutional for requiring Americans to purchase a health care plan then shouldn’t Social Security/Medicare be next? After all, aren’t Americans required to purchase a worthless P.O.S. retirement program?
Report Post »resme
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:57pmI see, Fox news polls only count. teehee
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:53pmOff topic …
Getting Dam tired of the Chemtrails and Haarp…
Love how clouds just evaporate , Love how the Storms just change direction…
This Bs must stop.
SEARCH AND SEE what the Govt is dropping on you on a daily basis…
Report Post »TouchStoneMT
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:42amNot only off topic – also off your nut.
Report Post »What DO you do with all that oxygen you waste?
Essa
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:47pmSorry to ambush this threat. Can we start a new thread and discuss our children. I had a 2 hour discussion/argument with my 17 yr old last night. These poor kids on wall street that can‘t get a job or pay their loans and all these poor people that don’t have ins. She wants a socialized health care system but doesn’t understand what that means. She is a senior and works after school and on weekends but she doesn’t get it. My other daughter will be home soon from university of Chicago. She got a full scholarship so doesn’t have loans but she has turned also. I don’t even know them anymore and I need help. When best to get that than from you guys
Report Post »Aiser
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:01pmIntroduce them to the Austrian school of economics. Also give them the works of Ludwig Von Mises and his critique of socialism and Murray Rothbard.
Report Post »truthseekerusa
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:05pmI suggest you contact the Blaze and/or Glenn Beck asking that a page on the Blaze be dedicated to helping parents deal with this indoctrination that has probably been occurring since first grade if they went to a public school. My neighbor is having the same experience and she is heartbroken to have lost her only child to these socialist professors. Other parents who have been successful may be helpful to you. How about editors at the Blaze, lets get started on this.
Report Post »Black Eagle
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:12pmEducate them on the atrocities of communism. Most lib students won‘t even know about Mao’s butchery, but they will read and believe the Maoist Zinn. They won’t know about the Soviet gulag either, but will know the hogwash about “America puts more people in prison”,etc. They will be against the Vietnam War, but have no idea about the butchery of the NVA against their own people, nor the massacre at Hue, the millions killed in BOTH Cambodian and N.Vietnamese Reds after the Americans finally withdrew (having betrayed our allies due to liberal collusion with the Reds), nor even consider how every, EVERY socialist-communist nation today is a prison-slave state, where nobody can leave, much less make their own life-decisions. Same with Islam, they won’t know the facts about female sexual slavery, oppressive Sharia Law and such, only the lies about “bad Jews and Americans”. Most young kids embracing leftism aren’t bad people, they just have been lied to that “socialists are good”, “communism is good”, “Islam is good”, and all else is bad.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:14pmShe’s right. Sounds like instead of talking, you should have listened.
Report Post »staythecourse
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:17pmGood idea to address the needs of the kids! How about the Blaze doing a secial publication that is specifically ‘kid friendly …. news for highschoolers and grade school? Blaze….something to think about.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:45pmHave them read the 5000 Year Leap.
Report Post »Essa
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:13pmThank you. I will look into that
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:17pmYou have to make it relative to the world they know, make it personal, what is their world, friends, facebook, work, school. Take the point you are trying to get across and de-sanitize it make it real that is what makes an effective teacher. If you start trying to explain the ten planks of Communism and the philosophies of Keynes, their eyes glaze over.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:53pmIt’s natural for kids to want to rebel. Check out some of these links. They appeal to young people, music video and such — Good luck!
HOT SONG! http://www.dailypaul.com/180673/thyblackman-ron-paul-herman-cain-s-different-philosophies-another-slam-dunk-rp-article
ANOTHER HOT SONG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZaUAaXkfF0
ROCK ON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO_kfgXcd9I
Tell them it’s time for a REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Copper Catfish
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:46pmThose 37% value the legalization of marijuana, as proposed by Ron Paul and Barney Frank!
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:55pmRon Paul, the only candidate FOR THE PEOPLE! Good job Dr. Paul!
Report Post »sportlock
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:58pmThats the thing about these Libs, they make the vote they know ill appeal to their followers all the while knowing it has no chance of passing into law. California is a prime example, super liberal, yet always fails to pass any marijuana laws. The Obama admin even stated last year if the voters do pass it, they’ll kill it on arrival.
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:00pmAnd? Was that supposed to be an insult or an observation. People are going to smoke marijuana, regardless if it is illegal or not, so why dump hard working americans tax dollars trying to stop it? Not to mention it would take all the power from the drug cartels that are right on our border. Its all about smaller federal government, and laws being applied through state governments. If you don’t like that marijuana is legal in say -Florida? Then move to Georgia, were it will be illegal, just an example.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:11pmOr those “37%“ could be part of the military who has given Ron Paul more money than ALL of the other ”R” candidates COMBINED, and even more than Ohmamma. They could be part of the Independents, that ALSO support Ron Paul.
Doesn’t matter though, because the corrupt MSM will just report it as “Cain 2nd, Sanitorum 3rd, and Mitt for brains, and the drugstore cowboy are still battling for 1st.”
Cain, who didn’t even see the financial crisis coming when Ron Paul was desperately trying to warn us about it- wins one Florida straw poll – and he is all of the sudden the media darling.
http://www.mrc.org/bmi/commentary/2005/Commentary_The_Media_Say_the_Economy_Is_Horrible_So_It_Must_Be_True.html
Ron Paul KILLS them at CPAC, in California, New Orleans, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Iowa, and is TOTALLY IGNORED. He lost Iowa by LESS THAN 1%, and that was because Bachmann bought a bunch of Randy Travis tickets, and wouldn’t give them out to people unless they voted for her in the straw poll. Texas CANCELLED their straw poll, because they didn’t want to see Perry get embarrassed in his own state!!
People are freakin’ stupid.
Oh yeah….We want the blacker Federal Reserve puppet, so‘s we don’t get called racist any more……duh..
Report Post »sportlock
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:27pmDELETE THE ELITE,
“If you don’t like that marijuana is legal in say -Florida? Then move to Georgia, were it will be illegal, just an example.”
Take your own advise bub, If you dont like Americas capitalist system and our constitution, then move to say Canada or Europe, just an example.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:38pmJefferson – you’re totally right. Thanks for exposing truth!
Report Post »Vindex.Dogood
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:02pm@sportlock
Report Post »what part of Government over-regulation and the nanny state is attributed to American Capitalism?
Delete the Elite
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 2:13amor the constitution for that matter? Where in the constitution does it say the federal government has a right to govern what I put in MY body? So your for more government and more spending?
Report Post »Harold B
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:44pmI am expecting more focused hate on Mr Cain He has already already desecrated the sacred territory of MSNBC by acting like Fredrick Douglas and not a person who is begging to get back to the plantation. He is a runaway and the libs are not happy.with him He is like an uppity n_g_e_ but I like him.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:43pmRon Paul. The man with a plan. I like Cain too.
Report Post »7.62AirMailComeGetIt
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:56pmCAIN IS A FED RESERVE CHAIRMAN hes a SHILL and does not believe in auditing the FED anyone whos a cain supporter is supporting the destruction of AMERICA.
do you even know the tax laws (UH HUH what ive been told) just watch this and get the REALITY CHECK OF YOUR LIFE
AMERICA FREEDOM TO FASCISM GOOGLE VIDEO
PLEASE DONT DISREGARD THIS IT IS SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL INFORMATION YOU WILL EVER LEARN
Report Post »sportlock
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:59pmletting Iran have nukes is a plan, just a bad one..
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:02pmActually, Cain >was< a Fed bank member. He knows what goes on inside and wants to limit their roll to what the original purpose was. Ron wants to audit the fed, and that's ok with me. Cain already knows what they are up to, and I think his values will guide his actions. Could very well be that the act of an audit, and what it uncovered, would end the economy. Cain may know this and would rather fix the problem as compared to blow it up.
Report Post »sportlock
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:18pmAIR,
A tax attorney doesn’t know all the tax laws.
Presidents have what we call advisors, they are the experts not the presidents. Ever wondered why Obama has economic advisors, etc?
Maybe there’s a reason you back Paul…Least chance of beating Obama, keeps the black vote on the plantation, and you can twist every word he says into a racist statement.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:39pmIt’s not a matter of “letting Iran have nukes.” They’re going to get them because China and Russia are backing their nuclear program. Now what’cha gonna do about dat?
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:41pmIf it wasn’t for his stand on Iran and Nukes, I would be all for him. Right now, I like Cain, but in the end, ABO for me. The Thugocracy has to go. Now we have an AG that is an accessory to murder. What next!
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:30amYour comment presumes we are currently preventing or intend to prevent Iran from finalizing the creation of their own nuclear arms arsenal.
Iran, essentially unaffected by sanctions and dismissive of western warnings, is merrily chugging right along with their nuclear enrichment and missile development programs. Indeed, Iran is unabated and apparently acting with absolute impunity as a primary exporter of terrorism. Iran also defiantly continues to fund and arm our enemy in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems Iran‘s tyrannical Islamic leaders are unconcerned that America’s military power certainly long ago should have and still could be, brought to bear on them.
Granted Iraq and Afghanistan do bracket Iran on their western and eastern borders respectively, which could be a huge militarily advantage to us, if we ever decide to actually stop Iran’s exportation of terrorism and their nuclear weapons development program by striking them militarily.
Do you see that happening or is Ron Paul correct by default?
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 2:15amYea, that could work. But then what will we do when China/Russia get involved? Blow them off the map?
Report Post »dirthead1986
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:41pmRock and Roll Ron Paul!!!
Report Post »sailfished
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:18pmHaving been on the Blaze since it’s inception I just want to say OH MY ,what a difference, The Beckbots are apoplectic, the people are waking up to the fake left ,right paradigm. dems/repubs,2 wings of the same vulture., Good job Paul supporters .Special Kudos to you Jefferson , thanks for your support
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 9:06pmIndeed. Like I’ve been describing the Democrats and Republicans for years:
“The left and right wings of the same buzzard — the one that is ripping the guts out of my dying country.”
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:40pmIf He wins enough straw he can build a hay stack.Then he can toss a needle into it and try to find it.He stand a better chance of finding that needle than becoming President.Was hoping to see his son run one day,but Pappy Paul is ruining that.
Report Post »AntiLiberal74
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:40pmWell, it’s over now. Ron Paul will be your next President. Nobody can compete with the winner of the ‘Values Voter Summit Straw Poll’…
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:21pmTHATS funny right there!……..Thanks!
Report Post »dirthead1986
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:39pmRock and Roll Ron Paul !!!
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:39pmI was wondering why I didn’t hear anything about who won this thing. They built it up and then nothing. The news and radio that is. Should have known they all blacked it out that Ron won.
We can’t elect someone who is not owned by the establishment.
Report Post »ReadItToday
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:37pmRon Paul is our best hope to restore democracy after the coup that started in 2008. Even Ron has mentioned this
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7.62AirMailComeGetIt
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:59pmWE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY GET IT RIGHT
WE ARE A REPUBLIC
Report Post »LEARN THE TRUTH
America Freedom to Fascism Google Video Featuring RON PAUL
TeaParty_RonPaul_R3VOLUTION
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:25pmRon Paul revolution, Legalize the Constitution!
Report Post »Banter
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:40pm@7.62
Right on with the teaching lesson. However, anyone who promotes that joke of a website is not worth your time, as they are not credible. There is at least 3 who post here that promote that garbage.
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:37pmAnd what values exactly were 37% of these folks looking for? Cause I don‘t think the ability to hide your head in the sand while inserting foot in mouth is a value I’m looking for. At least 23% of them have their heads on straight.
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:46pmTRUE DAT???????? I dispise slang like that.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:01pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »Ron Paul is the STRONGEST on national security. – Oh and btw, Israel has the biggest army in the middle east.
If we’d quit supplying terrorists with guns and money (pakistan, mexican cartel, etc) we wouldn’t have to worry about it as much. YOU are the one with your head in the sand.
Grumptruck
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:30pmI agree! Let’s keep voting for the same establishment distraction artists that we have been voting for the past 30 years! I’m sure THIS TIME the GOP will actually live up to its promises, just like the DNC has!
Timeline of the political spectrum of modern times in America…
DNC gets elected running on a strong pro-union, pro-worker, pro-civil rights platform. DNC backed administration does nothing but trash the economy with regulations, trash the working class with welfare programs rewarding the non-workers, and trash civil rights with affirmative action.
GOP gets elected running on a strong anti-union, anti-regulation, small government platform. GOP administration does nothing but trash the working class by rewarding companies that ship jobs overseas, increase our military presence all over the world via a farcical terror-based prohibition-era drug war, and increase the size of the federal government anyway.
I think the biggest difference between the two parties is that the republicans bother to get congress to declare war before waging it!
Yes, let’s please fall for all the same nonsense, all the same rhetoric, and keep voting for people who are essentially the same candidates sponsored by the same party committees!
Like him or not, Ron regularly touts a NEW approach to problems that not only haven’t gotten away for the past few decades, but have indeed become dramatically worse. Or we can keep trying the same methods that have worked so well
Report Post »sweetconcern
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:18amDear Blaze and Mr. Beck: debka files said yesterday, The WH has confronted Brashar Assad Syrian dictator and have told him to step down and threatened him with War over his Kurd uprising assisination. Russian Melveded also joined us concerning this and Turkey too. Assad has already said if war begins he will bomb all of Israel. Pray for Ron Paul to win this contest soon before our welfare-warfare president and absent congress get another war going. They the so called GOV are running sacred and don’t intend to leave quietly they too see the “Hand Writing On The Wall.” The Fed wants to make as much money as they can before we End The Fed. They prop up the arms dealers on both sides making even more money. God help us and Israel! Am I the only one who is concerned?????/
Report Post »Banter
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:33pm“Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Perry…”
Even The Blaze sees these two as one in the same – big government McCain types.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:40pmTrue dat!
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:06pmI saw that too. Is this another one of those breeding programs for useless politicians?
Report Post »Banter
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:36pmProbably, since both of them are useless politicians, regardless of how their names are intermixed. Mitt Perry, Rick Romney, whatever, you still get empty suits.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:32pmThose who keep calling Ron Paul supporters “conspiracy nuts”
PLEASE WATCH A COUPLE OF VIDEOS AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELF
“conspiracy nuts” believe 9/11 was an inside job
Ron Paul supporters DO NOT BELIEVE that — they believe that United Nations Agenda 21 will change America to “one world government.” — you know — the one Glenn Beck warns about?
Please do it now. Please, God, help those who wish to help themselves!
Please watch the videos before responding to me
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DON”T VOTE UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND:
United Nations Agenda 21 and ICELI
Here’s one source, a liberal lady talking to a Tea Party group about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHWsdimVO4
The difference between a neo-conservative and a conservative:
Definition and names of neo-cons & neo-con media: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuefjIYKkjE
Tea Party Split: Sarah Palin and Ron Paul discuss Israel/drugs/more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEl5r1aHWP4
Chinese invade Texas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrkc6EB6h0
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:45ami know man.. the media pretty much has a grip on everyone.
Report Post »Ron Paul is our Thomas Jefferson…
truthseekerusa
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:32pmPaul backers may pack some of these groups but in the end, it will be the rest of Conservatives that will finally put him out to pasture to contemplate his insane foreign policies.
Sadly, I think he is destroying his son’s political career because he will be forever linked with his father. Too bad because his son could have been a presidential contender in the future. His father has ruined that opportunity for him.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:32pmAye!
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:17pmYes, you’re right. Sticking to the Constitution and not trampling it is pretty insane nowadays. It’s tough to stand up for liberty and truth for 30+ years. Too bad he taught his kid the same values… the same values as those rotten slave owners we call Founders…
You people need to look at history and the constitution. You claim that you’re conservatives, yet you support endless wars (war in Afghanistan 10 years yesterday! yay) Wars that 30% of our own men and women fighting, no longer believe in. Look at what previous REAL conservatives did during darker times, not the fake neo-conservatives we see today.
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