Environment

Royal Society Report Recommends Birth Control, ‘Wealth Measures’ to Achieve an ‘Equitable Future for Humanity’

Royal Society Report Suggests Population Control and More to Help Balance Economic Growth and Protect the Environment

Twenty-three scientists got together in a working group for the Royal Society — a fellowship of scientists who encourage use of science to benefit humanity – for 21 months to discuss ”how can the world balance the need for economic growth and forestall ecological disaster,” as David Biello puts it on Scientific American’s blog.

The recommendations they’ve come up with in their report “People and the Planet” include managing the population along its current rate of decline and developing methods to “reduce [economic] inequality”. Royal Society notes the recommendations made in the report are not a “definitive statement” as the concepts discussed are complex, but it is an overview of human impact on the environment and “policy guidance [for] decision makers and [...] interested members of the public”.

Here are some of the key recommendations made in the report:

  1. The international community must bring the 1.3 billion people living on less than $1.25 per day out of absolute poverty, and reduce the inequality that persists in the world today. This will require focused efforts in key policy areas including economic development, education, family planning and health.
  2. The most developed and the emerging economies must stabilise and then reduce material consumption levels through: dramatic improvements in resource use efficiency, including: reducing waste; investment in sustainable resources, technologies and infrastructures; and systematically decoupling economic activity from environmental impact.
  3. Reproductive health and voluntary family planning programmes urgently require political leadership and financial commitment, both nationally and internationally. This is needed to continue the downward trajectory of fertility rates, especially in countries where the unmet need for contraception is high.
  4. Population and the environment should not be considered as two separate issues. Demographic changes, and the influences on them, should be factored into economic and environmental debate and planning at international meetings, such as the Rio+20 Conference on Sustainable Development and subsequent meetings.

Here Eliya Msiyaphazi Zulu, the executive director of the African Institute for Development Policy who was a member of the Royal Society working group for this report, explains that if there is to be an “equilibrium between people and planet” the consumption of the West and other developed countries has to be reduced and the other end of the spectrum — the 1.3 billion poorest in the world — need to be supported in some way:

Biello writes some of what the scientists recommend is already happening, like population control. According to Biello, the rate of population growth has been declining since the 1960s, thanks to “empowerment of women,” which he notes comes with other benefits as well. He also notes more people are moving back to urban environments, instead of widespread rural or suburban homesteads, which he says “may help reduce the global impacts of the extended family of man.”

Biello also brings up an interesting dichotomy with the scientists’ recommendation to curb the the rate of population growth. He writes:

Fears of the wrong sort of population growth have a long dark, history, but actual history suggests that an excess of humanity can actually be a good thing, providing the renewable resource of human ingenuity that then fuels economic development (and world-changing scientific ideas). Plus, there is the troubling question of: what number is the right number, who decides and who enforces it? As the Royal Society’s motto goes “take nobody’s word for it.” Not even the Royal Society’s.

All this comes at a time when scientists have relatively recently been using the term anthropocene to describe a new geologic era, defining the time period from roughly the Industrial Revolution to present day. Recently, the Planet Under Pressure conference commissioned a video that showcases the effect of human activity on the Earth:

The group Globaïa, which focuses on environmental issue education, produced the animation, which comes with a message that there are solutions that can help reduce some of the detrimental effects humans have had on the environment.

What are your thoughts on the report recommendations? The animation?

Comments (143)

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  • SandyfromChesterfield
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:27am

    This sounds exactly like what obama wants also.

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    • Marci
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:31am

      Sustainable…….more Agenda 21 I see. Another UN hatched think tank of people looking to “reduce” the population. Notice this paragraph..

      “Fears of the wrong sort of population growth have a long dark, history, but actual history suggests that an excess of humanity can actually be a good thing, providing the renewable resource of human ingenuity that then fuels economic development (and world-changing scientific ideas).”

      Sick. As long as who is being produced is productive and smart in society. You would think that the leech Obama voters would be a little scared of this “survival of the fittest” scheme. But then again, they can‘t fear what they can’t understand…..

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:59am

      Killl babies and steal peoples money…call it what it is…EVIL.

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    • BreeZee
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:47am

      These over socialist educated idiots need to be shot.
      All together now can you say “We’re all SOCIALIST NOW” very good girlbots and boybots.

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    • kfalcon22000
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:53am

      1. If they want to reduce poverty, build businesses rather than complaining that governments have to do something about world poverty.
      2. If they are so concerned about waste, they can create businesses that are more efficient, rather than complaining. If they want renewable energy, they can do their own investing, or being that they are scientists, they can invent new technology instead of telling governments to stop using energy.
      3. Wanting to control specific populations is called Eugenics. It is pure naziism.
      4. I am surprised these so-called scientists did not commit suicide when Mt. St. Helens erupted and spewed ash over most of the planet. That had far more of an effect than anything that man has ever done.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:04am

      I’ve read the comments.
      Let the people who are industrious enough to take care of themselves do just that. If the Africans cannot help themselves, fine. Sorry about that. Not really!
      This nonsense about all humans living together in perfect harmony is an outgrowth of the illusion that humans of all nations/backgrounds/intelligent levels, etc. can, well, live together in perfect harmony.
      This is completely preposterous!
      Always has been………Always will be.

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    • HKS
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:40am

      I get a little concerned anytime scientist get together, they tend to cook up some absurd crap with just about everything they touch. They seem to me to be people that are fine in and of themselves, but look out when they congregate.

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    • justangry
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:18am

      I know you’re all mad, and they are a disgusting breed of humanity, but desiring to kill the Malthusiasts only turns us into the animals they are.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:19pm

      There are now over 7 Billion people on Earth. The Leftist Liberals and Democrat-Commies are preaching that the Earth can only sustain 1.5 Billion. What do these fiends, these genocidal maniacs have planned for the 5.5 Billion people that are unwanted. Hey 5.5 Billion people, that is a lot of fertilizer.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:49pm

      I am not sure about you guys but when I was a kid I remember my Mother tell me when I did not eat all my food that there are kids in Africa who are starving and would love to have what I am leaving….. I remember thinking (because had I said Mama has a fast back hand) that even if I wanted to give them my plate it would rot before it got all the way to Africa…… The implication was that by leaving food on my plate I was keeping food from starving kids.
      Glenn was right folks…ALL of America is the 1% even our poor are rich and the world is the 99%….what is said in this “scientific” report is that the rich countries need to consume less and the poor countries need to have more to consume. Even our homeless get more then $1.25 a day!
      There is no inequality but there are injustices….All of the people of the world can do as we have done and break their chains and become nations of kings. They have the same God given opportunity our ancestors had. The reason this Nation has thrived is because George Washington and others with him did not go to war because the king was rich and we here were poor. No he and the other founders went to war so that we here could have the OPPORTUNITY to become rich and free. Not out of misplaced wealth envy!

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    • tgrhwk
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 10:30am

      Limiting the population is a good thing. It’s not about you or me but our children. Look at what we had and what condition we have left the planet in for our children. We do not inherit the earth, we barrow it from our children.
      How much trash does one human create in one life time? We have 7 billion people taking a dump every day. Where does all that crap go? Our technology is killing our world and all things that live here.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 11:14am

      Wealth measures?
      Can we start with the Queen, followed by prince Charles?
      Make them commoners, it will give them a warm fuzzy feeling.
      Next, Monoco.
      I like it.

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    • iblvingd
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:48pm

      http://www.earthsummit2012.org/blog/item/273-plan-a-planet-earth read this then take so pepto bismal.

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  • wntsmallgov
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:26am

    Can anyboy say Login’s Run.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:03am

      You can, twice!

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    • HKS
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:41am

      How about a little of that solent green.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:21pm

      I am reminded of the Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

      The people should be the 1st people put up against the wall.

      When I heard this two days ago I was DEPRESSED.

      Just as CERN published a study on Cloud ionization showing fault with he AGW computer models of Warmists & “Earth Day” Founder Loverlock says that he & other hyped AGW, TPTB double down.

      You give any engineer cheap energy & they can give the whole population cheap, clean & fresh water.

      You can do anything then.

      The f_cktards are trying to back humanity into a corner. Anyone here me?

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  • wntsmallgov
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:24am

    Can anybody say Login’s Run

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    • Quiata
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:22am

      “Logan’s Run”. Good movie from 1976.

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  • Netsurfer2
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:15am

    Of course most know that the head of the UN dislikes human beings and would rather rid the world of them! Plants now have more rights than humans!

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:07am

      Population control would only be embraced by the secular, inustrialized world, the most “sophisticated” countries (at least in their own minds). Meanwhile the dregs of humanity would reproduce like rabbits turning the entire world into a third world hell hole in 100 years.

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  • BradLee
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:54am

    Want to depopulate the earth? Easy. Stop sending aid to Africa. Let nature take it’s course and then re-colonize it with actual humans who want to develop it into an actually functional environment, rather than a total shithole.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:05am

      When the world goes bankrupt and collapses, and additionally when people put away their abilities, aid will stop flowing to Africa.

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  • SgtB
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:28am

    Kill all eugenicists! If they want us to lower the human population on this planet, then we should endulge them. Personally, I’m sick of all of this eugenics crap. The philosophers dating all the way back to ancient Greece spoke of over population and the need for population control, yet every year we prove them wrong by increasing the population of this planet along with the average quality of life. If we are going to go to war soon, it will be over political and pseudo-scientific ideologies of the left. I wouldn’t mind killing a few people who support any brand of eugenics. In fact, it just might make my day.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:42am

      The funny thing is that they think they can depopulate the earth all while keeping their own soul out of the bottom of the pit. Now that’s funny.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:16am

      Belief in curbing population growth purely for economic and ecological reasons does not make you a eugenicist. That’s just one of the lies that plutocrats tell you to discredit environmentalists because they would get richer less quickly if they had to stop s****ing where we eat.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:49am

      lets start with you chet

      get your **** nipped ……………preferable BEFORE you reproduce

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:51am

      Chet,

      Why don’t you keep it concise, and just go back to saying…..“Hooray for abortion”…..like you used to do.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:06am

      Absolutely, thank God for abortion. It is one of the major factors keeping the population growth in this country at a relatively moderate rate compared to the parts of the world that are really starting to feel the effects of having too damn many people.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:31am

      This is an absolute solution. About 20% of the population of the USA believes in Global Warming and Environmentalist. So, if we simply stop burning coal, and start burning environmentalist, that could reduce our carbon footprint, and we can rid ourselves of some “Human” pests. I figure in less than 3 years, all Environmentalist will produce enough energy to keep the USA running and when we run out, we simply will go back to burning coal. With the demand reduced by 20% and all the screaming Mimis out of the way, the humans can go back to making society better. But then again, that may sound cruel, or inhumane, but if you really feel that way, just register at “Save The Earth”. We will send a rep around in no time.

      And if anyone feels this is extreme. Well, tell ELF. I am just adopting the same aspect to humans that they are, just take a side, we are all expendable, it just depends on what side you sit on, as to who goes to the gas chamber. What humans are worth less? Decide, because the line is being drawn, you have to step on one side or the other.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:03am

      Chet…please feel free to self abort at any time. Leave the babies alone though or I will kick your a@@…

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    • mauijonny
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:31am

      Brilliant, DAR! And has anyone noticed that Earth Day was not so much this year? Hmmm.

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:48am

      It used to be labeled “population explosion” to make it sound dire. Then “overpopulation” to make it less violent sounding and more number oriented. Now it’s “stabilizing” to redistribute incomes. To initiate a world tax on everyone to support corrupt governments that the U.N. has approved. Since the global warming taxation scheme is falling short, another old chestnut has to be revived. And even when the population of ditchwater countries is over the imaginary limit set by accountants, it has never helped to throw money at them and expect a positive result. And chets remark of “thank God for abortion” has to be the winner of the most backwoods mentality on this subject. Really sad and unfortunate choice of words to believe.

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    • HumbleCitizen
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:33am

      Eugenics, ala wikipedia.
      Sir Francis Galton, 1883 defined eugenics as “the study of all agencies under human control which can improve or impair the racial quality of future generations”. Historically, the term has referred to everything from prenatal care for mothers to forced sterilization and euthanasia.
      eugenics can also be a study of “improving human genetic qualities”. It is sometimes broadly applied to describe any human action whose goal is to improve the gene pool. Some forms of infanticide in ancient societies, present-day reprogenetics, preemptive abortions and designer babies have been (sometimes controversially) referred to as eugenic.

      Abortion stops a beating heart.
      http://www.abortiontv.com/Movies/viewliveabortions.htm

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:24pm

      People are a blessing provided you school them in the hard sciences.

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  • Captain Crunch
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:23am

    They will use any rational to control/depopulate the Earth. Not to worry though, the next war will assure there are no more people worrying about such vain things.

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  • Itsjusttim
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:23am

    Basically they are saying that if there are two men one in Kenya, one in the U.S, and they are both tasked with digging dirt from the ground to pile it up into a ten foot mound, then the man who digs faster has to ship some of his dirt to Africa to the man who is digging slower or vice versa. Or, if there is a third man doing the same task in Mexico, and he decided to build his mound on the beach while being too ignorant to be aware of the rising tide, then both the man in the U.S and Kenya have to ship dirt to the man in Mexico so the man in Mexico doesn’t have to dig more himself.

    Now just replace the dirt with a steel foundry, and it’s more modern.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:29am

      If that‘s the way the world is going you know what I’m thinking? I‘m thinking I won’t dig any dirt at all, and then I won’t have any dirt to take. And then, when the guy in Africa has his pile get washed away by torrential rain, and the guy in Mexico has his washed away by the tide, and millions of those people die from disease and famine, and they lose touch with the rest of the world so they don‘t know what I’m doing over here – then I will dig dirt again.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:37am

      And you can pull my finger-nails out, or crush my fingers in a crusher, but I won’t be digging dirt.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:47am

      I was at work today; I left my cookies on the table for 20 minutes; something to the tune of 15 cookies, and one of the commies I work with ate my cookies, even though he didn’t know whose they were. Oh I know commies and they are a disgusting breed.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:53am

      Now because that commie ate my cookies I didn’t get a snack at work, and so I will make sure I leave my food in my car so the commie doesn’t eat it. And by the way he even eats people’s food if their name is on it, and so that won‘t help if that’s what you’re thinking. So I will leave my food in my car, and the commie won’t have as much to eat.

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    • SixWaysToTheMayflowerBetterThan13thGen
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:16am

      Chill, Timeeeee.

      you ahve FAR worse albatrosses to bear than a cookie.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:05am

      I was quite sure that there was an interesting point in there, Tim, but I couldn’t find it.

      I guess I didn’t dig deep enough.

      Sorry to hear about your cookies.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:35am

      Tim is talking about redistribution and the entitlement mentality of communists.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:56pm

      Actully, Timmy is making perfect sense today. If you can’t understand it – you might want to examine your own medications, or lack thereof.

      I’ve had a rather unpleasant experiance with recreational 4-wheeler riders. They just took it upon themselves to ride all over my hayfields and trample down the grass – without even asking. Grass I need to produce an economicly pertinent commodity. Their excuse was that I had alllll this land – and appeared to them to be doing nothing with it at present.

      My response was that by that logic I had equal access to their nice yards, which was producing nothing of benefit. I’d be right over with my plow and get it ready to plant corn. The soil types of their yards was much more productive than my hayfields, and should be put to a better use than the waste of energy maintaining it for asthetic purposes only.

      Communism is rife in our society. These 10 “recreationists” feign themselves to be conservatives. When propositioned with “equal access according to utilty” – they didn’t like it so much. They would have outvoted me 10:1 in favor of themselves, proving the tyranny of democracy as well. Private property rights for them, none for me. Democracy itself then becomes a communistic tool.

      The sad reality is that if these idiots had worked like I have the last 25 years, in which I gave up recreation to a large extent, they could have bought land enough to ride on without violating my property rights.

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  • 13th Generation American
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:21am

    These Scientists are lying to us on purpose. We all know that the reason the earth is getting warmer is because God is hugging us closer. Plus, The Ark did hold DINOSAURS!!!!. Noah realized they were to big to fit so he dropped off the first ones back to Africa and then Noah sailed to Alaska and let some more off. Then he sailed up to America and the rest is history.

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    • RLTW
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:04am

      Your grasp of geography is as stupid as the picture you try painting of conservatives, but I suppose it’s a way of avoiding the actual topic.

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    • SixWaysToTheMayflowerBetterThan13thGen
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:15am

      God may be hugging SOME of us, but He just isn’t interested in those who spit in His face (i.e., YOU, wombat).

      Like my new screen name? Actually true – but I never, ever was so lacking in self esteem I thought of propping myself up via my ancesters … until YOU came along!

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:05am

    As to the animation, what was that? It shows nothing but what someone has designed it to show.

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    • mharry860
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:41am

      It’s another load of crap like global warming, these worthless fools have no value in this world, unless they can figure out a way to scam the world out of it’s money.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:00am

      Watch .. they will propose another world tax … to control the population .. it is always about control … these people would have fit right in Na zi Germany.

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  • rsanchez1
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:04am

    They always ignore history. Free market economics uplifted the lives of millions in the US and Europe. Free market economics made Japan an economic powerhouse and gave the average Japanese citizen fantastic quality of life, even though they were just as devastated as China after WWII, but China chose to go communist. Everywhere that wealth redistribution has been applied, misery has followed. You need a usurpation of liberties for wealth distribution, which stands against what made the most successful nations and populations in history. This is why they distort history in schools, to persuade the wide-eyed kids that they are right and history is wrong.

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  • Rufusnatr
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:04am

    They can bugger off.

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:55am

    Anywhere that abject poverty is found, you’ll also find a dictator in power. The dictator is pampered and well fed, and is protected by a well fed military, (well fed so that they remain loyal). The rest of the population lives in abject poverty, according to the physical distance from the dictator. The further away from the dictator, the more impoverish. North Korea is like that.

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    • cogito ergo sum
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:13am

      @Diane

      Have you ever taken the time to think where dictators get their money? it cannot be through
      tax because the people are too poor. They aren’t creating their own either. That leaves the first world nations and corporations to financially support these dictators. After looking a bit deeper into the situation the real question becomes “why?”

      Cogito Ergo Sum

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:06am

      There are plenty of people living in poverty in democracies – India, Mexico, Turkey, the Philippines, Brazil. Getting rid of a dictator doesn’t magically make poor countries rich or poor people as powerful as rich ones. You don’t need a dictator to keep poor people from having a fighting chance at upward mobility, you just need to neglect to educate them.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:09am

      Chet, that is rather a simplistic notion. Education helps, but it’s not a magic bullet either. Not mentioning the fact that you may make an access to education available to anyone, but you’ll still end up with a small segment of population that can cope. Mind you, I do mean education, not indoctrination. Therefore the education is a guaranteed vehicle to potential income disparity, FYI.

      But, it is not the major component of upward mobility. People can self-didact. Quite a few successful people were drop-outs, because the educational system did not do it for them. They taught themselves, because they were motivated. When looking what was the main component of their motivation (wealth acquisition) and how that main component was facilitated, you end up with the real factor for upward mobility–well defined, guaranteed property rights.

      By the same token, when you look at societies that lack upward mobility aspects, you’d find out that the property rights are not well established (the well off members participate in oligarchic structures that guarantee their property rights b the virtue of power), or none at all.

      Provide a legal framework for guaranteed property rights to anyone and you’d see a miracle — 10-20 years, society prospers. Those that would need a specialized vocation would naturally seek education, though a sizable majority would be content to gain upward mobility with trades, merchandising and services that do not require the time (and money) investment

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:49pm

      I didn’t say that education alone would allow poor people to lift themselves. I said that lack of education alone would prevent them from doing so, and that’s true. When you talk about self-taught success stories, you are talking about the United States where everybody stays in school until at least the 10th grade whether they want to or not and revealing your ignorance of conditions in parts of the world where just educating children until they are literate enough to further educate themselves is the exception rather than the rule.

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  • pwatkins
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:55am

    hard work and commonsense as an individual = wealth and a substainible population
    The reason many countries and about half of the US have not been successful is bc the government thought they could solve the solutions for everyone, so the people humbled themselves to their government rather than solving their own problems and finding their way on their own.
    People need to turn to God and let Him decide when we are overpopulated. The world needs to learn Who the Provider really is and then they can find their own worth.

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  • christos
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:53am

    …Just Say No To New World Order,,,they know people need food and water they contaminate it everyday,,,along with there Bromide in the Chem Trails that are carried off by the Jet Stream,,,the processed food they sell attacks with the Bromide in the bread,,calcium carbon in practically everything is no mistake Food Engineering Thanks to Great old Harvard Bio Chemists,,,and John Rockefeller around the 1920′s the Chemists replaced Naturopathic Healing with Chemists/Big Pharma,,,they no what they are doing they are Co Conspirators,,,Destroying the Land and Peoples Health,,,Making them dependent on Doctors and Pharmaceuticals trying to replace +JESUS+GOD+ with Chemicals,,,they no whats best they have degrees and $$$$$$,,they keep the population down and turn everyone into Zombies,,,Mercury Fillings oh Yea,,,Block all of the body’s natural Meridians/energy flow,,,Destroying peoples Pineal Gland so they will be Zombies,,,they Need the GDP,,,to stay high,,,Destroying Peoples Health on a cellular Level,,,they are Evil,,,And so many have not a clue,,,,

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    • Teabunny
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:01am

      and now there is this (Bury your food!) you like NDAA…you’ll love NDRP
      http://www.uaff.us/ndrp_executive_order.htm

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    • Teabunny
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:04am

      you forgot fluoride in the water.

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    • christos
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:10am

      Edit: the processed food they sell is designed to attack the liver and kidneys,,also with the Bromide in most bread sold health hazard it binds with proteins in the body and begins cellular destruction,all of the ingredients they use on the Element scale are Heavy Metals that react in your body and destroy your immune system,

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    • christos
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:31pm

      Just Say No To Refined Carbohydrates,Food Dyes,Preservatives,Corn Syrup,Soy unless it’s Fermented,,,,Wheat,Corn,and Soy are all subsidized by the Illuminati,to Destroy your Health and make you Dependent on the Big Pharmaceutical Companies,,,The word Pharmacy,,comes from the Greek word Pharmkeia meaning Witch Craft and Sorcery,,,is this how +JESUS+GOD+ wants you to live with disease and dependent on Pharmaceuticals,,,your body is a +HOLY+ Temple think before you consume,,Think of +JESUS+GOD+ search out alternatives,,,ask a Naturopathic or watch the Veria channel,and the show – What A Relief- for starts,

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  • whatthecrazy
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:53am

    Ok that was wierd i think i was just brainwashed but im not sure. I think i had just had a minny stroke because i briefly considered that maby RP and his determination to follow the Constitution may be the only real shot,I don’t like some things but hec i can say the same about all candidates.It p!sses me off that the GOP has once again chose our nominee for us.Ain’t that about a biotch.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:33am

      It didn’t take me getting a mini-stroke to come to the conclusion that Liberty and the Constitution are the only way we can right this ship. But, I did take an oath to protect the Constitution, even from our own government if need be.

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  • Warm In The Desert
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:51am

    The Royal Society have become Eurocentric, and in doing so have lost their scientific objectivity.

    Once I read that a group of scientists like this have conferred with, and can confirm scientifically they have spoken personally with Mother Earth, and Mother Nature ; and that both aforementioned Mothers concur with their findings…then perhaps I’ll begin to take notice.

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  • islamhater
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:46am

    Agenda 21 right out in the open.

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  • Teabunny
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:46am

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Holy Spirit! way cool! best sourcing there is! LOLOLOLOL

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  • Teabunny
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:43am

    Unrelated…RE: the secret service scandal…Glenn said check FARC…I said Check also FLMN…well…the trail is heating up!
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2075/892/Canadian_Press_Tells_Us_What_Really_Happened_In_Cartagena_And_It_Wasnt_About_Prostitutes_And_Secret_Service.html

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:37am

    These moronic egg heads bring nothing new to the utopian table. It’s all been said before at group think meetings for years. They always leave the creator out of the equations; and that’s a grave mistake.

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  • lassiegirldawn
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:37am

    That doesn’t surprise me that the Royal Society is involved, they are a bunch of inbreeds that have always been nuts in any ways they deal with people. Syphilis has been carried through centuries of the Royal Society’s brains and carries on in the gene pool. All the others I have no idea for an excuse.

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  • ozz
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:18am

    The world is not overpopulated.
    That is not the cause of poverty.
    There is enough land in Australia alone to give every man woman and child a quarter acre lot for a garden. And that would still not use up the entire continent.
    Poverty is caused by lack of liberty.
    Starvation is caused by lack of liberty.
    Lack of liberty is intentionally orchestrated by the global elite.
    Hence so is the human suffering it begets.

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    • TRONINTHEMORNING
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:34am

      Well put and all true.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:51am

      There sure as hell isn’t enough water in Australia to give every man woman and child a quarter acre lot for a garden.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:09am

      Chet,

      Really?

      Come on dude…….Is that really what you took from his post?

      Or do you think maybe he was just illustrating a point?

      Good grief, it’s no wonder this ship is sinking.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:36am

      No, Billy, I think that he thought that he was illustrating a point, and I was illustrating that he wasn’t. My point is that you don’t have to be crowded to be overpopulated. We’re part of a system of life on Earth. We don’t have unlimited space to put unlimited people. We can’t live where nothing will grow, and we can’t grow food everywhere that things will grow, we have to leave some wilderness to keep up the oxygen supply.

      So I’m sorry, what was that point that you thought he had that he was trying to illustrate? Because I actually agree with the part about most poverty and starvation having political roots, but I don’t see what the hell that has to do with the amount of land in Australia.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:11pm

      Chet,

      I generally like to keep my posts short and concise, so two quick points.

      Yes, you can live where nothing grows. Modern man has devised ways of bringing the food to you.
      How do you think North Korea gets much of it’s food supply?

      So were you giving us a clue as to what the next manufactured environmental crisis is going to be?

      An oxygen shortage?

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:50am

      Moving food requires energy. Moving water requires even more energy. So, yeah, some people can live where nothing grows for a while, but the price in resources for having them live there decreases rather than increases the total sustainable population. Unless and until we have some source of very cheap unlimitedly renewable energy, the bulk of the Earth’s population is going to have to live somewhere reasonably close to where food can be grown and those who don’t will always be vulnerable to political and economic shifts endangering their food supply. Therefore, my point that it is pointless to talk about the amount of empty land in Australia, remains valid.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:42pm

      Chet,

      Enough with the hand wringing already.

      Heaven forbid that something might actually require the use of energy.

      Hey Chet, I have a used 1500 B.C. Flintstone mobile for sale……..you interested?

      It’s got low miles, but the Sabre Toothed Tiger skin upholstery needs a little work.

      It was only driven to the tar pits once a week.

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  • Lord_Frostwind
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:10am

    We need to stop letting these people (or at least stop paying them) to get together. With all those heads in the clouds, it shouldn’t be a surprise how many pie in the sky ideas they can come up with in a session.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:01am

      They need to get a REAL JOB … that might shock some sense into them .. or they would starve to death .. their choice.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 8:38pm

      No, man does not keep finding ways to provide more and better food supplies, the food stopped getting better about the time I was born, and now as the supply increases the quality drops. You have to pay so much extra for food as good as what we ate as children, that even here in the richest country on Earth, most of us can’t afford it. So, yeah, of course it’s much better to kill tens of thousands of fetuses a year before they are born, than for me to have to pay double to have tomatoes in my salad that taste like tomatoes.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:05am

    The Socialists motto should be: LIMIT!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:15am

      Of course, increased Limit creates Rarity and increased Value… whereas the Socialists say… that they want to provide everyone with everything… which requires the UnLimited and results in Commonality!

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:55am

      So unlimited population decreases the value of human life, while increasing demand for necessities beyond supply. Limiting population limits demand for necessities of life, thereby ensuring access to the supply for individuals.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:01am

      Hey Chet,

      How come none of your Chicken Little prophecies never seem to pan out?

      Quote from 1970, (He was, or is an ACTUAL scientist…..imagine that)

      “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” – Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

      Again, that was from 1970

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:55pm

      @CHET…
      The Socialist solution to Supply & Demand Balance is always the same: Kill the DEMANDERS! Freedom is the opposite of Limit/Security! Value upon Human Life is IMMORAL! — Socialist HealthCare is IMMORAL! My Value upon my Life is a My Morality! — Another’s Value upon my Life is a Blasphemy! Stop trying to Formulate Population Growth like an Economist; One does not have the Right to Control People; And, Nature prevents Over Population without any Help!

      Just because Socialists can Think & Reason… does not mean that they are Sane!

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:09am

      Therightsofbilly
      Just because something hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it can’t happen. This website is full of nitwits who still think that the Book of Revelation is going to come true, and you’re crowing over some dude who made an error that as far as we know may have been off by mere decades?

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:28pm

      Chet,

      You are hopeless Chet.
      That was just one of a long list of bunko enviro wacky predictions that have fizzled.
      Would you care for the whole list?

      You seem to forget Chet, that man keeps finding newer and better ways to provide more and better food supplies, using less land and resources than previously thought possible.

      So you think it’s better to kill someone before they are born, than to give them a chance at life, because that life might not turn out just perfect.

      Sick and twisted logic there buddy.

      And please give a couple of weeks notice before we are going to run out of air to breath, OK? I’ll go stock up on some tanks of oxygen.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 8:39pm

      Therightsofbilly
      No, man does not keep finding ways to provide more and better food supplies, the food stopped getting better about the time I was born, and now as the supply increases the quality drops. You have to pay so much extra for food as good as what we ate as children, that even here in the richest country on Earth, most of us can’t afford it. So, yeah, it’s much better to kill tens of thousands of fetuses a year before they are born, than for me to have to pay double to have tomatoes in my salad that taste like tomatoes. Of course, it’s better to kill the fetuses.

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