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Rumsfeld Tells Rush: Radical Islamists Intend to ‘Create a Caliphate’
- Posted on February 8, 2011 at 6:49pm by
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“We are up against a vicious enemy, the radical Islamists are there, they intend to try to create a Caliphate in this world and fundamentally alter the nature of nation states, and we’re reluctant to engage in the competition of ideas and point out what they really are and how vicious they are. This current administration is even afraid to say the word Islamist. And we need to fight. We need to be willing to say what it is and be willing to tackle it.”
Read the full transcript at RushLimbaugh.com.
More on Rumsfeld’s book and The Rumsfeld Papers is here.
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Comments (168)
antena
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:09pmOne thing is clear. This is an orchestrated conspiracy by Glenn Beck and Donald Rumsfeld.
Report Post »hehehe
mndjohnson
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:04pmI believe Rumsfeld before I would ever believe Barrack Hussien Obama, Barry Sotero, Michelle Sotero, Nancy Peelosi, Barney F., Harry Rude, Rahm E, Al Franken, Michael More, Joseph Biden (you know Joe) all put together!! Read Revelations. They can not read the bills they sign but I bet they know what is coming.
Report Post »bkeely
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:50pmThey will destroy the infidel at all cost we need to be on guard!
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Buck
http://sensiblelivingnow.com/
SafeguardOurLiberty
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:47pmIsn’t it interesting that Glenn Beck has been talking about this since last week. He was chastized by AOL on Politics Daily for spouting what is the truth. He was also called on the carpet by Kristol, who supposedly is a conservative for saying the same thing that Rumsfeld is saying. Until people wake up and see what the Muslims want to do, we will be in constant danger of losing our liberties. People make fun of Beck, but he has been right on on many things the past few years. Why? Because he does his research, and he is good at it. People can make fun of him, and stick there heads in the sand, but he really is a modern day prophet. They made fun of Moses, John the Baptist, and Jesus also. I think that God is working through Beck to help us see what is transpiring, and people refuse to listen. We are heading for big trouble and we need to wake up and be proactive or we will be too late.
Report Post »REDPILLREADY
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:43pmThe apologist in chief, “blame America first” Obuma has no game for competing on the world stage for our noble, constitutional principles and ideals. When you lose the game face, the competition gets bolder, especially with the Islamo-fascist-socialist ilk. Damn shame this isn’t a game.
Report Post »Ashrak
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:37pmHere is a link some may find interesting. Beck isn’t the oracle some seem to think. What he is, is someone willing to say things out loud that many are too scared to say. I hope Beck fans listen to his most important message -do your own research and encourage others to do the same.
Report Post »Check it out –
http://counterterrorismblog.org/
makt1775
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:35pmHere‘s the site that Beck didn’t want people to hear on the show in the first hour about the CIA’s 20:20 report on the world caliphate : http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/the-khilafah/khilafah/9939-cias-2020-vision-for-the-future-caliphate-is-short-sighted
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:34pmMajor Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents
1. Christianity: 2.1 billion
2. Islam: 1.5 billion
3. Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
4. Hinduism: 900 million
5. Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
6. Buddhism: 376 million
7. primal-indigenous: 300 million
8. African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
9. Sikhism: 23 million
10. Juche: 19 million
11. Spiritism: 15 million
12. Judaism: 14 million
13. Baha’i: 7 million
14. Jainism: 4.2 million
15. Shinto: 4 million
16. Cao Dai: 4 million
17. Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
18. Tenrikyo: 2 million
19. Neo-Paganism: 1 million
20. Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
21. Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
22. Scientology: 500 thousand
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:59pmToweratarians = 1
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 10:21amUSA 50+% Protestant SCOTUS 66% Catholic. Jewish population 2%, SCOTUS 33%. All current members of SCOTUS attended harvard or prinston.
Report Post »Israel had more direct connections to the falling towers than any other country! They can’t even cover up all the records. CAN U SAY INSURANCE SCAM!!!
toweratarians=2
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 3:36pmIf I can get a 3rd Towertarian we can file for tax exempt status ha-ha
Report Post »maybe build a church ?
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:30pmAnyone here that thinks Rummy Scummy is a good Christian yell AMEN !!!!
Report Post »I sad yell AMEN BROTHER !!!
captquest
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:30pmsure has become a catchy word ever since Glenn mentioned it.
Report Post »RogueAmeritarian
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:28pmNow that was funny!!!
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:12pmGot a new book to buy and read.
Report Post »Capt_Spalding
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:12pmCaliphate…. caliphate… where I have heard that word recently? hmmmm…
Report Post »AmericanLass
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:38pmAnd why is Glenn being the only one who is being condemned for using the word. It seems to be everywhere now. Not just the MSM, but people who recognize it as something that is a real threat. Where were they before Glenn talked about it.
Report Post »WesG
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:11pmTolerance is a human trait only recently exercised. In the playground when kids play by themselves are they tolerant when mom’s not watching? It would take Islam another 75 years of slow changes. Look how long it has taken the progressives. If they try abrupt change we would forget our differences and call for the nuclear destruction of mecca and medina. As well as every other mosque. We are only tolerant until it affects us individually. Funny thing I would rather live next to a right wing church nut than a muslim. At least the nut will try and persuade me with words.
Report Post »Ozymandias
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:08pmDespite what the advertisers of a nicer, more peaceful Islam say, Muhammad clearly made the claim that his commission was to fight against the unbelievers until they all submit to Islam and become worshippers of Allah. Since the time of Muhammad, global domination has been the goal of Islam.
Allah’s Apostle (Muhammad) said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’”
Fight those from among the people of the Book, who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax considering it a favour and acknowledge their subjection. -Surah 9:29 (Sher Ali)
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him). -Surah 9:123 (Pickthall)
Unquestionably, we see that Muhammad encouraged the spread of his religion by force. Now, one might argue that Christianity also has a goal of spreading its message throughout the earth as well. While this is true, Christianity does not have a goal of fighting against those who are not Christians, but rather presenting the gospel message, or “good news” to everyone in order that they have the option to either freely accept or likewise reject God’s offer of forgiveness and acceptance.
Even Mohammad felt that he was possessed by a demon as did his contemporaries. Islam is Satan at his finest in both deceiving and destroying. Yet, the False Prophet Mohammad and Satan both will be cast into an all consuming fire according to John’s Revelations. Christians should prepare for the Great “Falling Away.“ There is no other course than to fortify your soul and spirit against this truly ”Evil Empire.”
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:08pmBeck is really, doubling down on the crazy and more and more conservative voices are calling him nuts. I think Beck-Boy is ready for a long stay in a rubber room.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:15pmBeck is really, doubling down on the crazy and more and more conservative voices are calling him nuts
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They are calling HIM nuts,
but what are they calling the FACTS he is showing, the facts in form of videos, audios, writings, slogans and news articles , from around the world ??
AmeriCat
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:23pmGod Bless Glenn Beck!
Without Glenn, the masses would not know of The Caliphate, The Muslim Brotherhood, The Khalifate Convention!
We can ALL agree that the Light of Truth is a good thing.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:32pmSorry, but he is not offering anything but cherry picked statements taken out of context. He is making connections that do not exist. Beckis wrong, the conservative intellectuals have abandoned him as is usefullness has expired, all he has left is his conspiracy theories and the dead-enders that still are blind.
Report Post »cbrown
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:35pmI can put videos together and show the world is flat. That does not make it flat.
Forget the left, the right (Kristol, Lowry) is calling Beck crazy. Have you read their pieces and it is brutal on Beck. I think they are dead on right. Any idea why the folks on the right are distancing themselves from Beck. Are they closet liberals or RINO or do you have a new name for them.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:54pmSorry, but he is not offering anything but cherry picked statements taken out of context.
Report Post »————————
Then you put them in context.
Each and every statements which you think has been out of context , plz put it in context.
encinom
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:55pm@cbrown
I think it is clear why the right is waling away from Beck, they have read the tea leaves and see Beck with his wild conspiracy theories costing the GOP the independants and moderate voters.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:04pm@ encinom
Report Post »….. they have read the tea leaves and see Beck with his wild conspiracy theories costing the GOP the independants and moderate voters.
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Bingo.
It has nothing to do with facts .
Its all about politics for them
Jedi Master
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 9:12pmBeck is showing their videos, web pages, and manuscripts. If Ahmadinejad says he wants to wipe Israel off the map, shouldn’t we believe him? If the Muslim brotherhood wants a caliphate, shouldn’t we believe them? How is that crazy?
Report Post »cbrown
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 9:38pm@Jedi Master Beck statements are true and I am not questioning that. His conclusions are crazy or to put it mildly ridiculous. He connects the dots and scares the living daylights of his audience. They are all ready for God knows what…. Maybe the Mayans were right, world is going to end in 2012, why bother?
Report Post »Jedi Master
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:21pm@cbrown
Report Post »Maybe his conclusions are crazy, but I’m going to stick with my gut feeling when I watch these videos.
aligirl
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 10:18amOh yeah-crazy like a fox!
Report Post »NewHampshireNancy
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:08pmI love Rummy, he has a sack and he isn’t afraid to tell it like it is.
Report Post »Mr. Vitriol
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:08pmI think satan controls the hearts of all extreme islam…literally.
Report Post »FToth84
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:05pmNOWAY!!! Now that Rummy says it. Maybe more will get on board. And fight to preserve our wilting freedoms here in America.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:03pm“Ax” (Ebonics) Rummy WHERE IS THE TWO TRILLION DOLLARS he reported unaccounted for on 9/10/2001? NOBODY tells us where THAT went, do they?
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:02pmI’ve had a hard time figuring out how I feel about the whole Egypt thing. I don’t believe much of what I hear, especially from Al Jazeera. Rumsfeld makes sense in that the most radical and dangerous are the most organized and in the best position to take over….we’ve seen that here at home.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:05pmAnd you didn‘t mention Obama’s name once. Good job.
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:00pmOh well I guess he is crazy too eh? Well I rather be crazy than clueless.
Report Post »Sergio Q
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:40pmif THAT man with an long career involving access to government highly classified info says it comming I see no reason to stop stocking up on ammo & pork rinds ,,,bring it on ,daddys got summthin special ferr‘yerr’ heathan butt.
Report Post »your worstnightmare
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 6:59pmRummy. Never has a Secretary of Defense been so aptly named. Perhaps he’d like to explain his actions to the families of the 4,000 plus sacrificed over there.
Report Post »Berealalready
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:06pmYep, everyone you disagree with is a drunk or an idiot. Maybe both?
The 4,000 plus brave men and women who sacrificed everything did so in their desire to protect us. I thank them, their families, and their friends. It is a debt of gratitude we can never repay. Most of the families understand and would tell you to stuff it. You (and your ilk) see things only in a political light. You stink on ice.
Report Post »Hoosier Daddy
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:16pmA “rummy” is a drunkard. What evidence do you have that Rumsfeld is that? On the other hand you expose yourself as a true dolt.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:24pm“Perhaps [Rumsfeld] he’d like to explain his actions to the families of the 4,000 plus sacrificed over there”
And what pray-tell explains the “actions”
to all of the men and women who are still in Iraq
>and the –how many more– in Afghanistan?
Caliphate is the topic. No?
Report Post »>Even President Obama knows that, “We took our eye off of Afghanistan!” said Barack Obama.
RogueAmeritarian
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:26pmTo DUSTYLUV & BEREALALREADY
Absolutely correct. War is war, it’s not patty-cakes. If we were able to fight the war with no crap from the liberals, that war would have been over the same month we entered. These countries have had in some cases, decades to tell the terrorists, or extremists to get out, but no, they say “stay, make yourselves at home, let’s talk about ways we can kill more americans.” Give me a break!
Report Post »your worstnightmare
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:27pmBush called him Rummy, you knuckle dragger.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:28pmthere will be many censored posts on this one
Report Post »your worstnightmare
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:28pmThey told me that this place was populated with the simplest of the simple, and they were right.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:34pmRummy denied and delayed requests for body armour and additional armour for vechicals. When generals spoke of the hazards of Iraq, Rummy forced deem to retire. Iraq was a choice, Iraq was a distraction from the threat of OBL, that until baby Bush had to show up his father.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:43pmThe history hasn’t been written yet. It’ll take at least another decade to see how things pan out over there and how well American interests were served. But if you think about it, Bush and company liberated a whole lot more people and gave them a chance at freedom than did Abraham Lincoln at a tiny fraction of the cost in lives.
The civil war: 4 million slaves freed, 618,000 American deaths – North and South
Report Post »Iraq: 32 million freed, 4,000 American deaths
taebaggranny
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:06pm@ YOUR WORSTNIGHTMARE You should get on your knees and thank GOD for the ones that gave their lives so you can continue to be a bigoted idiot..My grandson REENLISTED in the Army when war was declared in Iraq knowing that he would be sent over there and he was twice..My great nephew has deployed to both Iraq and Afganistan (a Marine) several times..They both have children and they both want the best for their kids..How about you
Report Post »SingerGuy
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 6:56pmI’m glad there are a few people in the national spotlight brave enough to name this for what it is.
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:10pmDonald Rumsfeld has really went up on my respect scale and he is taking a lot of hits from the left on his book as always happens when you speak the truth. Glenn Beck has the courage to stick his neck out on these truths and it does my heart good to see people of the stature of Mr. Rumsfeld back him up on this very real and major threat facing mankind. It is high time many more start really emphasizing the realities of the dangerous times we are living in. It is time for our leaders to step up and stop ***** footing around and realize this is not just a game these radical Muslim Brotherhood and terrorists are hell bent on achieving their Caliphate and it must be stopped.
Report Post »Think4yourself
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:37pmGlenn Beck was the first to say it and evryone in the MSM mocked him for it. Will they now mock Rumsfeld?
Report Post »http://www.unsalvageable.org
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 6:55pmWe need to be willing to say what it is and be willing to tackle it.”
Report Post »———————–
Willing to tackle how ?
By calling islam religion of peace ? By looking for “ moderate muslims” to tackle jihad for us ?
cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:01pmRight on cheezwiz. That was a great interview by Rush. The scariest part was when Rumsfeld started talking about the Caliphate. You know, the one that the MSM keeps saying is a figment of Glenn’s imagination. Here is a guy like Rumsfeld who spent most of his adult life in national security confirming the Caliphate. I would think he would know as much as anybody about it. And once again, Glenn is proven to be right.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Sharpton vs. Limbaugh video
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:03pmWhat is the total population of muslims in the world 1.4 billion?
Dustyluv
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:08pmMuslims believe that a lie told to further the cause is not a lie. That is why you cannot believe a single one of them. They want to kill Infidels, when are we going to get that through our thick skulls? Maybe when it’s rolling down the street??
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:18pmEven this guy is coming out backing up everything Glenn has said. Time to call a spade a spade and Glenn HOME RUN today putting all those MSM fools esp Crystal in their place! Someone needs to send Crystal a copy of todays show and tell him to either start reporting the truth or make it official and join the ranks of Matthews, Olbermann, Kouric etc.
Why are they so afraid though to admit what is happening and have the discussion on it. Why dismiss it and call it conspiratory? Clearly they know something is up and dont care or have been told, by whom we would love to know, to shut up and continue perpetuating the lies. I dont think there is a third option.
Its okay though we will get the facts on our own until they start censoring and policing the net. When that goes we will use shortwave radio and then standing on street corners.
56 men, our Founding Fathers, knew what had to be done and do what’s right, what about you? http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:21pmEither we‘re going to tackle it or it’s going to tackle us.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:23pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fZUYqp3dCM&feature=related
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:29pmAspartame Aspartame Aspartame
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:29pmYes this is excellent, Glenn is right on target and it is high time that more of our leaders grow a spine and start telling the truth. Yes they will be mocked but so what, when you consider who is doing the mocking you should just consider it a compliment to your character. Thumbs up to Mr. Rumsfeld!
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:40pm@TOWER7FEMACAMP, you must really love this site: a major factor in how an online website moves up in search engine ratings is the amount of comments it generates and with all the posting that you are doing you must really want the Blaze to succeed? Lol! I bet you also click on all the ads to generate them revenue also.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:44pmPlease allow me to repost here:
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:33pm
rodamaa
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 6:57pm
End of days stuff? I am getting scared. Not for me push comes to shove I will go out fighting. But what of the children? What of our families? Very scary indeed!
Then may I suggest organising “what if” groups within your neighborhood so that you may be able to stand in the front lines if need be. You fear for the children, and it sounds like (could be wrong) that you have responsibility to no one other than yourself. Well, I’ll tell you this. You needn’t have gone to Parris Island boot camp to have the heart and will of a Marine, that just because you didn’t serve, doesn‘t mean you can’t when the time comes. If you came into my camp willing to kill, and to die, defending those who can’t for themselves, and have the heart of a Marine, then I would embrace you as Brother and see what you can do. Don’t worry for yourself, worry for those whom you have power to protect, keep them in your heart and fight as if they were your own. All of America is in peril now, and we can smell the rumors of war all around us. If you sit back and be complacent about it, then you are a coward who deserves to have his head laying on his livingroom floor. If you stand, and stand hard, against those who seek to control and usurp your sovereign status as a Man, then you stand in rightousness and more importantly, Virtue.
Report Post »Be unselfish, Virtuous. Be an American, and remember that YOUR founders made a pledge to each other AND the potential Americans they were fighting for, “Our lives, our fourtunes, our Sacred Honor”.
Stand, my Brother, stand and be epic!
jblaze
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:46pmWow Glenn is so ahead of all these guys! I find myself perplexed and amazed at the same time!
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:48pmI was fortunate enough to hear Rumsfeld say those things in an interview on FOX this morning and then I heard Rush’s interview this afternoon. He backs up everything Glenn has been telling us. This should get the attention of the MLM but I doubt they will do or say anything about it. We need to start fighting back by neutralizing the influence of the Radical Muslims among us here in the US. Then we can concentrate on defending against the Radical Muslims outside the country. The first step should get someone in the White House who will defend our Constitution and has ****** of sufficient size and hairyness to put the safety and liberty of the United States first. Appeasing these people will not cause them to change their plans and snuggle up to us. Our leaders have to realize that the goals of these people is to dominate us and subject us to Sharia law, not to mate with us. We need to carry our convictions to the polls in Nov., 2012 and elect leaders who think like us and have the resolve to stand up to these people.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:49pm4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:52pmI would not believe any that Rumsfeld or any of the neo-con said in any interview! This is just fear mongering so that no one will support Obama!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-Ay
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:53pm1.8 billion, incidentally 1/4 of the total population of the earth, and islamic land mass is roughly 1/4 of the land mass……Revelation, anyone?
Revelation 6:7/8 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
I got many vids if anyone is interrested.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:55pmmissionarydad Glenn would get twice as many hits from me if he didn’t censor my posts.
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:58pmIts time for the authentic history of this world to be told. In the Middle East, Asia and India and Native Americas, everyone knows which son of Noah they come from. The Arabs are Hamites and the original Idol (Baal) worshippers. THEY are the ones who use violence to dominate. They are the true Progressives.
Learn the authentic history in this historic interview on Israel National Radio. Be sure to click on the “Finding Noah” interactive web article series from this radio link. http://www.marcrubin.com/judean-eve.ivnu
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:59pmWALKWITHME……..uhhh check out the quotes and stated mission of many of the subversive groups at work in the Middle East for yourself dude !!! I don’t believe it just because Rummy says it, but because it is backed up by verifiable fact from the very mouths of the groups themselves. Man liberals just don’t want to deal with facts, only ad hominems and conjecture and mockery…..Truth is truth whether you see it or not.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:01pmtower7femacamp
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 7:55pm
missionarydad Glenn would get twice as many hits from me if he didn’t censor my posts.
Yeah, it is crazy the kind of “PC” bs I gotta go through to assume a post “G” rated enough to pass through. I don’t get it either, but it may be a conceted effort by my “list” folk to report us enough to get our posts removed.
Report Post »Semper Fi and God bless the “1st Amendment”….or whatever passes for it these days…
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:06pmwatchtheotherhand
Report Post »Don’t give them voice to argue against anymore. this is the only tool we have here to silence them, is to give NO rebuttal, and therefore NO chance to retort. We feed these propagandist tools so much on here, and i am MORE than as guilty as most because I see their lies, i am CHOMPING at the bit to expose them, and nothing is accomplished, Except then they have something to respond to. Give them no ear, and they have no voice.
Other than the one echoing in their minds, of course.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:19pm@Dustyluv
Report Post »“Muslims believe that a lie told to further the cause is not a lie. That is why you cannot believe a single one of them.”
Right on Dusty!
Rummy on with Rush saying that a Caliphate IS the plan, is huge. Even “Tingles” won’t be able to poo-poo that for long.
Hey Glenn, they ARE beginning to get it!
Showtime
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:21pmAll this is mind-wearying, Cheez. We stand our ground. We march to Washington. We march to Washington again. We hold gatherings all across the country.
For what? For “Has-Been” Pelosi to call us Astroturf, listen to liberals spew hate speech at us, and for our demands to be completely ignored or misinterpreted..
Then all Hell breaks out in Egypt, and I cannot help but believe that Obama is all for it. New World Order.
Don‘t you love it that he sold out Great Britain to the Russians by giving them the Brits’ top security information on their military defenses, INCLUDING SERIAL NUMBERS?! Why? WHY? To get the Russians to sign the START Treaty! Our hands are tied.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:28pm@CheezWhiz
Report Post »Palamalu could tackle them, and he has great hair.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:29pmMYSACREDHONOR….a hearty hoosier hello first. I do agree with you these people aren’t worth the effort and it kills me not to reply to their lies and deceptions. I love pointing out their fallacies way too much. I think I may have an addiction problem. I’m addicted to arguing with idiots !!!!!! oh, it does feel good to get that off my chest, please help me escape this prison. How did you break the addiction?
Report Post »midwestnorwegian
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:30pmBy electing a Muslim President?
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:30pmWouldn‘t you have to be a ’democrat’ or obama, NOT to think that the intent of islamists was to create a Caliphate?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:30pmExactly right CHEEZ .. no one in a postition to fight this is willing to stop with the PC crap and do something.
Report Post »Jedi Master
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:32pmIt’s interesting how much I notice this word (Khilafat) now. Sadly, I think America is going to learn the hard way. You’d think we would have learned after December 7th and September 11th.
Report Post »EddardStark
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:33pmThis is not what the rational people are calling conspiratorial or crazy. “Radical Islamists” DO WANT TO CREATE A CALIPHATE. Read any terrorist’s ideological statements and that is obvious. What is conspiratorial and crazy is what people on this blog want to believe and that is that EVERY Muslim wants a Caliphate. That is categorically untrue. Listen to what the lout Rumsfeld actually said. Radical Islamists do potentially threaten a democratic movement in Egypt, but what is the solution? Sending troops into Egypt? Supplying people our oft-wrong intelligence agencies decide are pro-US forces with weapons? We‘ve played that game before with Afghanistan and Iraq in the 80’s. That’s how Rumsfeld ended up shaking hands with Saddam.
Not to mention you blatantly hypocritical radical Christianists shout about the coming of the Caliphate one second and then spout biblical verses predicting the coming of your Christian version of the one God that will create the new Kingdom of (Christian) Heaven.
Report Post »liz77
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:37pmOf course! Obama is showing us the way too, by bowing to Saudi Kings, and other leaders in the middle east, by apoligizing for America, and telling Muslims in South East Asia that ” America is not a Christian Nation. ” Yeah that works.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:40pmEDDARDSTARK….you definitely need prayer and I will do so for you.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:42pmEDDARDSTARK………one big difference I won‘t cut off your head if you don’t agree with me. Try saying what you just said to us on a Islamic website and see how long it would take for you to be on their hit list if they could find you.
Report Post »free2bme1961
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:46pm@ Tower7femacamp,
Report Post »Nice to see you still have my back!….as well as everyone else’s!! lol
EddardStark
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:58pm@Watchtheotherhand – If I were in terrorist clutches they would behead me because I’m American and they could exploit it not because I spoke the truth. Your type of apocalyptic, biblical rhetoric casts the struggle against terrorism in exactly the same light as terrorists do. Right after they proclaim an Ummah and the rise of the Caliphate they state the enemy is the Crusader armies of the Christian West bent on Christian domination of rightful Muslim lands. I think your points make their argument nicely.
Thanks for passing on the beheading, but is your smug satisfaction that I will certainly burn for eternity really that much better?
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 9:04pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/madeleine-gruen/hizb-ut-tahrir-america-us_b_611595.html
Very eye opening
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 9:16pmFloridacracker
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:20pm
@ My Sacred Honor,
Do you have a space by your side for this old farmer? I will fight with you to defend our children, I can keep them fed too, not junk food, nothing fancy, but good, wholesome and nutritious food, grown the old fashion way, with sweat, patience and dedication. My callused hands are good also to build them a house, to drill a well, to stretch a fence and to fix the truck or the tractor. But if the time comes that these callused hands will need to do something more drastic, they are good also aiming, reloading cartridges and dressing wounds.
Are you kidding? I was raised in West Ga, on a black angus farm by my Grandparents, who hold to so many of the same values as you it is scary.Not only do i have room by my side for the downtrodden and weary, but certainly i have room for those like you, who are still willing to fight for our Country, in whatever way they can! My Grampa taught me how to raise a garden, dig post-holes, drive a tractor,find the new-born calves, drink home-made moonshine…..ALL the things a good country boy needs to know!
Report Post »My apologies, Sir, but that is a silly question to ask!
But one thing I need to know…
You are from Florida….are you a…..‘gator’ fan? Cuz that may be a dealbreaker…
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 9:24pmwatchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 8:29pm
MYSACREDHONOR….a hearty hoosier hello first. I do agree with you these people aren’t worth the effort and it kills me not to reply to their lies and deceptions. I love pointing out their fallacies way too much. I think I may have an addiction problem. I’m addicted to arguing with idiots !!!!!! oh, it does feel good to get that off my chest, please help me escape this prison. How did you break the addiction?
Well, i am still recovering, but uncovering my “list’, and therafter changing their strategy, has probably helped. I dunno. Just the other day i saw a post from them and realized that I was 8 years old again, telling some playground trash-talker “I know you are but what am I!”. I was circular, and no matter what you say, you will NEVER get these posters on here to see reason whatsoever. I myself have agreed with a few of them a few times, but never ONCE have I seen any of them say “…you know what, maybe you are right there”. Not even close. They are robots, they are agendafied, they are one-monded, which is to say close-minded. i will choose to ignore them best i can, and ridicule them if given the opportunity. Otherwise, i will continue to speak for every American who still wants this country to survive, and will stand beside EACH of them IF the time comes for us all to stand.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:36pmRumsfeld just sold books to all of Limbaugh’s listeners. Great, that’s the profit motive in action. And he even used the word “caliphate” to help sell his book, although somehow he failed to use that word in his book or use that word “torture” with reference to treatment of Arabs in Abu Graib, something which has has inflamed the Arab world. I’m on the American side. But I also understand that if it was discovered that an Arab country tortured Americans by keeping them naked and chained and sleep deprived and carried around by a dog collar and set dogs upon them and humiliated them in every degrading way possible, regardless of the reason, we’d be pretty upset too.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:53pm@Cheez & My Sacred Honor
Report Post »You need to address just what will happen to the women and girls of this country, if all this comes to past. Make it clear as a bell for I fear they have NO CONCEPT what so ever is about to come. Please do this…they need to know.
AzDebi
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 12:24amBush GOT IT…How can Obama be supportive of our enemies, The Muslim Brotherhood? Are his actions the actions of an American President who is loyal to this country?
On September 5, 2005 President George Bush gave this speech…He knew their goal was to form an Islamic caliphate…I may not have agreed with many of his policies, but I NEVER doubted for one minute his loyalty to the military and this great nation! Please take the time to read this…
The terrorists who attacked us on September the 11th, 2001, are men without conscience, but they’re not madmen. They kill in the name of a clear and focused ideology, a set of beliefs that are evil but not insane.
These Al Qaida terrorists and those who share their ideology are violent Sunni extremists. They are driven by a radical and perverted vision of Islam that rejects tolerance, crushes all dissent, and justifies the murder of innocent men, women and children in the pursuit of political power.
They hope to establish a violent political utopia across the Middle East, which they call caliphate, where all would be ruled according to their hateful ideology.
Osama bin Laden has called the 9/11 attacks, in his words, “a great step towards the unity of Muslims and establishing the righteous caliphate.”
This caliphate would be a totalitarian Islamic empire encompassing all current and former Muslim lands, stretching from Europe to North Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia.
We know this because Al Qaida has told us.
About two months ago, the terrorist Zawahiri — he‘s Al Qaida’s second in command — declared that Al Qaida intends to impose its rule in every land that was a home for Islam, from Spain to Iraq. He went on to say, “The whole world is an open field for us.”
We know what this radical empire would look like in practice, because we saw how the radicals imposed their ideology on the people of Afghanistan.
The goal of these Sunni extremists is to remake the entire Muslim world in their radical image. In pursuit of their imperial aims these extremists say there can be no compromise or dialogue with those they call infidels, a category that includes America, the world’s free nations, Jews, and all Muslims who reject their extreme vision of Islam. They reject the possibility of peaceful coexistence with the free world.
Again, here are the words of Osama bin Laden earlier this year: “Death is better than living on this Earth with the unbelievers among us.”
These radicals have declared their uncompromising hostility to freedom. It is foolish to think that you can negotiate with them.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 12:28amUnfortunatly even Rummy understates/underestimates the percentage of muslims that are a danger or will be a danger. Small percentage? No, try 50 to 60%… and if the need arises 90% of the able bodied men will lay down his life for allah. (laymen terms… go see satan, in hell)
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 12:50amWelcome Black Carter:
“Unfortunatly even Rummy understates/underestimates the percentage of muslims that are a danger or will be a danger. Small percentage? No, try 50 to 60%… and if the need arises 90% of the able bodied men will lay down his life for allah. (laymen terms… go see satan, in hell)”
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Our good friend “My Sacred Honor” gave me the best argument I’ve heard yet about their “real numbers”…I said I wasn’t ready to question ALL MUSLIMS…his reply was that “When all h*ll breaks out and they invade your town and threaten to kill everyone who does not “convert to Islam”…Just whose side do you think the “moderate Muslims” will be on?” There’s just no arguing with his kind of logic!
tifosa
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 6:45amDonald Rumsfeld has zero credibility with anyone who has any knowledge of how/why we went into Iraq, the crimes at Abu Ghraib, etc. He’s out to sell books to the Rush/Beck audiences. My guess, by reading in here-wise move.
Report Post »brliantedj
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 7:47amYou really mean this?
Report Post »http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
brliantedj
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 7:55amTroll alert @ MYSACREDHONOR// SAFEGUARDOURLIBERTY probably same on others in same vein. Just an FYI!!!
Report Post »cheeseball41
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 10:15amA caliphate so-to-speak was promised to the Arabs after the fall of the Ottoman Empire following WWI,however, it did not materialize. Well, after such a time as this, it looks like it may just happen, and another union/community of nations may arise (there’s already a European Union, an African Union, and to my recent discovery and surprise, a South American Union [Google "UNASUR"]) Yes, they (the Arabs) will say they are for “peace and security,” and will even recognize Israel as a nation as a means to an end. A “culture of peace” is building in the Middle East, yet it’s purpose is diabolical. Both Mecca and Rome are plotting this course, this push for a “lasting peace,“ but ”sudden destruction” will follow. (1 Thessalonians 5: 3) Let’s see, you have over a billion Muslims and a billion Roman Catholics seeking this supposed “culture of peace.” If you want to read the agreement made by Islam and Roman Catholicism, just Google “Muslim Catholic agreement culture of peace.” Right off the bat, the call for “peace and security” is made.
(excerpts):
1. “Peace and security are much needed in our present world marked by many conflicts and a feeling of insecurity.”
“For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape” – 1 Thessalonians 5: 3
3. “Religious leaders, especially Muslims and Christians, have the duty to promote a culture of peace, each within his respective community, especially through teaching and preaching.”
Question: What does a Muslim have to teach and preach that is good? A Catholic?
4. “A culture of peace should permeate all aspects of life: religious formation, education, interpersonal relations and the arts in their diverse forms. To this end, scholastic books should be revised in order not to contain material which may offend the religious sentiments of other believers, at times through the erroneous presentation of dogmas, morals or history of other religions.”
“…books should be revised in order not to contain material which may offend the religious sentiments of other believers” (Look out, here come the tolerance police. Say a word against Islam or Roman Catholicism and you could lose your head!)
7. “Youth, the future of all religions and of humanity itself, need special care in order to be protected from fanaticism and violence, and to become peace builders for a better world.”
“Youth…become peace builders for a better world” (The youth today, including adults, are so caught up in the world’s technology, into sports, and Hollywood that they’ll believe anything, or say anything (”peace…peace”), just so as long that the status quo remains unhindered in their lives)
8. “Mindful of the suffering endured by the peoples of the Middle East due to non-resolved conflicts, the participants, in respect of the competence of the political leaders, ask to make use, through dialogue, of the resources of international law to solve the problems at stake in truth and justice.”
Number eight speaks volumes and all one need to do is look where this meeting took place: Cairo
The conclusion of the story by Zenit:
“Grateful to Almighty God for the abundant fruits of this meeting, the participants agreed to have the next meeting of the Committee in Cairo, from Tuesday, Feb. 23 to Wednesday, Feb. 24, 2010.
Cheikh Ali Abd al-Baqi Shahata
Head of al-Azhar Delegation
Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran
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independentvoteril
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 10:36am@walkwithme1966.. NOT a Rumsfeld fan by far but to be honest no one has to create FEAR for people to NOT support OBAMA.. even without the fear they stopped supporting him about 6-8 months ago.. when they started reading the TRUTH about what was going on.. ONE big thing Glenn is right about is THE TRUTH.. when you expose the truth they have NO WHERE TO HIDE.. and they are scrambling..Those exposed are creating the fear.. the rest of us are comfortable.. we KNOW the truth..
Report Post »W@nd@
Posted on February 9, 2011 at 11:39amPC commands THEY stick their heads in the sand…
Report Post »pretend it does not exsist and
it will be gone when we look again…
la la la la laaaa
SWLOOOpppphut!
oops! they lopped off the body left hanging out there
while their heads were buried in the ‘see no evil’ sand
hiding from reality!
All they did was kissed their butts goodbye!