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Rush: New Net Neutrality Rules Are ‘Solution in Search of a Problem’

After the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) approved new regulations Tuesday which set guidelines for internet providers, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh attacked the idea, calling a “solution in search of a problem.” There is no problem with the internet as it is, Rush notes, but progressive liberals are looking for ways to control the internet as more and more people turn to web surfing every day:

Proponents of the plan claim the new regulations will help small start-ups compete with larger, more established companies — creating an “even” playing field for all.  But opponents, including Henry Blodget of the Business Insider, argue that “not all bits are created equal” and that net neutrality “zealots” are simply looking out for their own selfish interests:

Tech folks are up in arms at the thought that new laws might allow Internet Service Providers to charge more to deliver some bits than others–including offering “premium” tiers in which some folks can pay to have their bits delivered faster than other bits.

Such a practice, tech folks say, will lead to favoritism and will stifle innovation, as the ISPs cut sweetheart deals with rich companies and penalize poor ones.  So?

Another way of saying the same thing is that tech folks want ISPs to be forced to continue to give all tech startups a free lunch while subsidizing their innovation.

ISPs spend billions of dollars building fiber networks. Why shouldn’t they be able to charge what the market will bear to deliver bits over those networks?  If people want their bits delivered quickly and securely, they can pay more.  If they don’t, they can pay less.  It’s as simple (and fair) as that.

In addition to a pure business standpoint, Blodget also cites “moral and economic fairness” is their opposition to the so-called net neutrality rules:

To see how self-serving the “net neutrality” concept is, all you have to do is glance at the physical world.  Imagine if the Post Office (or FedEx, or UPS, or DHL, or any trucking or transport company) were legally prohibited from charging more for delivering some stuff sooner than other stuff. …

Ridiculous.  Those shipping and transport companies spent billions of dollars building their transportation networks.  They have every right to charge whatever the market will bear to deliver stuff via them.

No one has any problem with the concept that the Post Office treats overnight packages differently than slow-boat ones.  Importantly, they also charge different rates depending on what is in the package–see “book rate” and all pricing by weight. So why all this hullaballoo about “NET NEUTRALITY”?  Self-interest.

But many net neutrality proponents are unhappy with the new regulations, arguing that they don’t go far enough.  The far-left Daily Kos site claims President Obama has broken yet another campaign promise to his base by failing to deliver more stringent regulations and supporting “fake” net neutrality:

These rules also violate President Obama’s campaign promise to protect Net  Neutrality and appoint an FCC Commissioner who would do the same, but the White House is trying to convince us this isn’t a sellout as well with their wholly supportive statement.

This is not a compromise, as Genachowski claims (known in some circles as Judas GenaComcast for his historic sellout and notorious industry-friendly attitude) and it doesn‘t fulfill Obama’s campaign promise — not even close. There’s no such thing as  half a First Amendment and no such thing as prohibiting “some” corporate censorship.

George Soros-linked Free Press produced this video, seemingly explaining the difference between “real” and “fake” net neutrality:

Finally, ardent net neutrality supporter Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., condemned the FCC’s final decision Tuesday, complaining that the new regulations were “inadequate”:

The FCC’s action today is simply inadequate to protect consumers or preserve the free and open Internet.  I am particularly disappointed to learn that the order will not specifically ban paid prioritization, allowing big companies to pay for a fast lane on the Internet and abandoning the foundation of net neutrality.  The rule also contains almost no protections for mobile broadband service, remaining silent on the blocking of content, applications, and devices.  Wireless technology is the future of the Internet, and for many rural Minnesotans, it’s often the only choice for broadband.

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  • FriendlyAtheist
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:09pm

    I have only brief words for this subject, for the comments I have read here have sapped most of my remaining civility, and the longer I talk, the more likely I will stoop to being downright offensive.

    First point: Please read the language of the rules. They’re published under notice and comment rulemaking procedures in accordance with the Administrative Procedures Act. If you read the actual text of the rules, their intent and (very narrow) scope quickly appear. The purpose of the rule, which has not just been invented and ramrodded through in six months as though spun from vapor (indeed, the tech world has been talking about this for a long time, and its constituents have been appealing to the government for just about as long), is to prevent the internet from becoming dominated by bandwidth allocation barons.

    Second point: Seriously, folks, this is about dollar bills. Perhaps this is a romantic notion that I’ve got, but I enjoy the idea that for once, something is being stripped of a price tag. Market value, feh! Aren’t there times — and this is coming from someone with full awareness that we have wrongful death, loss of society, and loss of consortium claims available in American jurisdictions — when you’d just like something to be appreciated qua itself, not qua How Much Can I Charge Someone for This? Reasonably unfettered access to a host of different information sources prevents the compartmentalization of the internet into mutually exclusive structures defined by whichever particular rivulets of currency have been formed on this ever-hazier window to our world. I do not want CommuNet. I do not want RepubliNet. I do not want JapaNet, AmeriNet, or anything else. While our existing telecom structure is not perfect, and please don’t misunderstand me as saying otherwise, I would prefer an anti-regulation regulation to a free market that, in pursuit of additional funds, frustrates its patrons and, ultimately, its own purpose.

    There is nothing holy about a lack of government. There is nothing holy about a profusion of government. These are social constructs that we invent, that we ruin, that we refine. We’re doing the best we can, and in this particular case, I am happy that the democratization of information has not been stifled by an overestimation of the value of profit.

    And as to the question of whether or not the FCC has the power to enact these kinds of regulations, remember that there are provisions in the APA to allow for appeals, and that after exhausting administrative remedies, there exists an entire judicial system designed to adjudicate these very kinds of disputes. And for the conservatively-minded here, recall the present constitution of the federal Supreme Court.

    That wasn’t brief at all…

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    • republitarian
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:43pm

      No, it was not brief. Try this. The FCC has no business with the internet. Period.

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 6:01pm

      IF this new regulation is so innocent, how come Sharpton was down at the FCC trying to get them to block offensive language- as it is racist? How come he is spotlighting Beck, Limbaugh, and Fox? Considering Sharpton is a hooligan who’s 15 minutes of fame should have ended at Tawana Brawley- he is marching up the steps of the FCC and calling for regulation of offensive speech.

      I appreciate you rationalization, but I want to implore you to go to the next logical step- this FCC intrusion on the net sets a precedent that if unchallenged and undefeated can and will lead to censorship of speech. You may like the people of the FCC today, but who’s to say that the FCC will be lead by the kind of people YOU want running the show- if they are God loving regulators you just might see an uptick in Christian shows and a silencing of atheist ideas. Get my point?

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    • FriendlyAtheist
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 6:58pm

      In terms of necessity, see this: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/net-neutrality-highway-toll-traffic-fees,news-8965.html

      Additionally, many Comcast-specific points have come to light in recent months, articles about which may be found around our wonderful intertubes. Not every instance of bandwidth-throttling constitutes a violation of the principles embodied in net neutrality, but many do, and with profit motives edging the market in that direction, there is indeed justification for action that is only partially remedial and largely preventive.

      I don‘t know the precise scope of the FCC’s regulatory authority. I do know that you have to cite authority for the rules you promulgate, and various statutory citations are listed in that section on the notice published in the Register. I have just enough faith in our regulatory structure (despite appearances, I am quite the skeptic of government action until I determine that it’s justifiable — unfortunately, with the volumes of acts and rules coming out these days, keeping up with things is more arduous than a century ago) that if the FCC steps outside its authority, the courts will check it. Remember how the FCC tried to latch onto cable and got beaten back? If there’s no authority to promulgate the rules, they will almost certainly be rendered void through administrative or judicial action. Rules that get this much press confer a commensurate amount of scrutiny on the people adjudicating disputes related to them.

      Typically, I’m a staunch opponent of the FCC. This is almost the only thing that agency has ever done that I’ve supported. Fining a broadcaster for someone ad libbing an expletive into a speech? Forcing them to spend tons of money on equipment and operators so that they may operate broadcasts on a delay lest they, through a third-party’s words, be fined perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars? I cannot support that.

      In terms of Sharpton’s behavior, I haven’t followed it past the headlines, but going by what you’ve said, RN Mom, that’s just him being his usual bombastic self. It’s downright offensive to good sense, frankly. However, it is very, very unlikely that a blanket “no racism” prohibition will ever emerge. Existing First Amendment jurisprudence cuts strongly the other way. See: R. A. V. v. City of St. Paul. Content-based regulations are severely limited by the First Amendment, and that is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. For example, you cannot prohibit cross burning as an expression of racist speech; you can, however, ban cross burning on a third party victim’s front lawn, as the purpose is to harass or intimidate. You can say, for instance, “It is likely that violent, armed struggle is the only sure way to restore the Union to its proper state.” You cannot, however, incite imminent lawlessness per Brandenburg v. Ohio. It would be a dark day for the First Amendment if such an exception were carved out, at least in my view, as I subscribe to the principle that the “best remedy for speech is more speech.”

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    • republitarian
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 8:42pm

      Okay, I read the article. It says this is needed because some businessmen are dreaming up ways to profit, and this is a preemptive strike against them. Sounds like hype to me, but if you want to worry about it, fine. Hey, keep us all informed. But if you want to use the FCC to go after your perceived threat, we have a problem. But it’s worse than that. Do you really think they will stop there?

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  • Silversmith
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:02pm

    Perhaps I am missing something, but shouldn’t congress (or a significant portion of them) be up in arms about this? I don’t see how what these 3 people say should have any weight without a congressional mandate for such an action.

    Silversmith

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  • Christian Kalgaard
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:00pm

    Accursed liberal fascists – Jonah Goldberg and Rush are right on the money.
    Imagine if Bush did this; but the hippies are silent, because Obama is doing it…

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:00pm

    “These rules also violate President Obama’s campaign promise to protect Net Neutrality and appoint an FCC Commissioner who would do the same, ”

    Is THIS is really a surprise? He broke every campaign promise he made, because he is a pathological liar, liar LIAR!!!!!!

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  • GoingBeck
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:59pm

    Before internet traffic even has a chance to get all messed up
    these dopes will be hauled before congressional committees
    to justify the constitionality of their actions.

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  • Lana40
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:56pm

    And we’re not out in the street shouting “ENOUGH!!!”…why? If anyone is to blame for the laws and regulations that our government has set forth before us, it is ‘WE THE PEOPLE’. Too tired from working….too lazy to get up off our butts….too naive in the belief that those we elected will ‘handle it for us’. WE THE PEOPLE….Yeap, our fault.

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    • janddjohnson
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 8:27pm

      You are right. Its time to stop this madness. Where do we start?

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  • sissykatz
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:54pm

    Is it only me or does anyone else feel that the victory we had Nov.2 may have been just a little too late, I feel as though I am living in an alternate universe, we had asked the Congress during the Lame Duck session to not deal with anything until after the new Congress took office.We did get the tax cuts extended but look what it cost!! When they could have waited until Jan. and not have had to bargain at all. Dadt could have waited and if it was going to pass, at least the Republicans would have gotten the credit. Then on “Sunday” night they gave them the so called Food safety bill that will cost the taxpayers about $1.4 billion more dollars. They did at least stop the abomination called the “omnibus” bill that would have given $1 billion to help fund “Obamacare” but I was shocked they even did that. It just seems to me that during the “lame duck’ , Republicans have helped Obama achieve everything he wanted to get passed. Now we have “net neutrality” whether we want it or not,and on the verge of passing the new Treaty without even weighing the options,just so they can get it passed before end of year. I’m not sure we even need the ones we elected, this congress(including the Republicans) have already passed everything. I am so upset and feel more vulnerable than I did before we did all the work as “Tea Partiers” that we have done. I am very discouraged!!

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    • republitarian
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:28pm

      Sissykatz, I think you are speaking for a lot of people. It is all meant to discourage and demoralize. Look at this way; all their cards are on the table. They are counting on the short memories of the American people but we will be there to remind them.

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    • Tallbriar
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 10:07pm

      Please do not lose hope. Millions feel the way you do: We continue to pray and prepare. There are millions of Americans waiting quietly, networking with friends and neighbors and relatives, while the kettle rattles on the stove. Progressives, Marxists, Socialists all fail to truly understand that they are being watched, weighed and measured by a silent majority. Their egos do not allow them to see their undoing, but that blindness will not prevent the fullfillment of the bitter consequenses they have sown for themselves.

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    • wash1776
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 11:26pm

      No SISSYKATZ!! It is NOT too late. I expected this all along. I am surprised anyone would have expected the current DAMOCRATS in congress to do anything different. After all, some will not be returning and I am sure were happy to stick it one last time to the people who voted them out.. Also, Obummer is still paying his cohorts with bribes behing the scenes to get what he wants. It is no accident that all of this legislation was left for the lame duck session. The DAMOCRATS and Obumble knew there would be little time for debate and chances for the Republicans to stop much of this with a DAMOCRATIC majority in power until early January. This was all planned ahead of time. Not an accident. I believe John Boehner is one of the best congressmen we have and will do a lot of good in turning some of this stuff around. The true American people are sick to death of the crooks in the congress and are not about to give up. We can throw more of the bums out in 2012. I would say that no one should believe Obummer is giving in with this so called tax relief bill. That guy has something up his sleeve besides his skinny arm. A leopard doesn’t change his spots. I am cerainly not infallible, but so far, anything I have said ahead of time has happened. I just don’t know for sure what Obumble is up this time. I just know whatever it, is it is not good. He is not doing a Clinton and moving to the middle after his shellacking in November. I can only pray whatever he is plotting will not be too destructive. Unfortunately, pretty much everything he does is. HE IS A DESTROYER!!!

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  • dmforman
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:48pm

    Dems need to learn the sometimes being fair isn’t fair. Everything the government touches turns to crap. Expect the internet to be the same and to be like China with the government regulating where and what we can view.

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  • jbl8199
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:38pm

    “The time has come, execute order 66″ ~ Emporer Palpatine from Star Wars Episode 3

    Sadly to say that fictional story has a lot of similarities to what’s actually going on right now in politics. Beware the darkside of the Force!!!!!!

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  • Nicole from CA
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:36pm

    Thank you Meredith for a great article. These people are relentless and Congress is asleep.

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  • guyperram
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:36pm

    Comrades, all is good! Now we can all join togeather and sing the Obama song! I wonder if they will redesign the flag? After all, a red star is more in keeping with where we are going than the stars and stripes.

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  • Rn mom
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:31pm

    The FCC needs to be sent packing and its henchmen should be thrown in jail ( they can bunk with Bernanke and the fed res). This is an absurd miscarriage of justice. They are overstepping their bounds. No one has been complaining about the net- so why “regulate” it? Power hungry money grubbers win out again.

    Go Rush!!!!! while you still can….that stumpy, grumpy loser Sharpton has you in his sights!

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  • booger71
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:28pm

    There go those pesky little departments again writing law

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  • lynda1276
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:28pm

    once again..controlled by the government- what could possibly go wrong?

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  • nvestnbrass
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:27pm

    If it helps me get the best possible search for Ammo sales, I’m all for it. That’s all that really matters at this point!

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  • Thomas Payne
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:26pm

    Congress all ready put this off as over stepping. The supreme court told the FCC this was unconstitutional. They did it anyway. We are living under a dictatorship folks!! Wake up America!

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    • goku17
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 1:34am

      that’s actually impossible. By the way, it‘s ’already‘ not ’all ready’ in this context. But that just shows me that you’re an uneducated person who knows absolutely nothing about net neutrality which actually guarantees you the ability to search conservative websites as quickly as you can search media matters or the like. Idiot.

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  • nvestnbrass
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:25pm

    If it will help me get the best possible search for Ammo sales, I’m all for it. That’s all that really matters at this point!

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  • spendthrift
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:24pm

    Just more government to create problems.

    Government Does not Solve Problems, it Rearranges Them.
    Ronald Reagen

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  • missy8s
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:23pm

    Progressivism/Nazism/Fascism/Socialism/Communism need to be outlawed.

    I love the first amendment but all of those ideologies are counter constitutional and seek to destroy America from within, sorry but the time has come to criminalize all of them.

    Supporting communism or fascism or socialism rises to the level of “fire in a crowded theater” and they are intended to undermine our liberties as a whole and inflict harm.

    Joseph McCarthy has been vindicated and we are living the nightmare he tried to stop.

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    • Paul_Kersey
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:16pm

      Great point MISSY8S

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 12:57am

      I agree with the sentiment, Missy, but remember what Thomas Jefferson said (probably loose paraphrase):

      If there be any among us who would dissolve our Union or alter its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as a monument to the extent to which error may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

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  • FaithHopeCharity45
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:22pm

    Just another way for government to extend its tentacles and gain more power.

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  • Devil Dog 7175
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:21pm

    When you cant bamboozle them with your B&## S%^#… SHUT EM DOWN! This is just the begining folks.

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  • Lantern
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:14pm

    That’s usually the Democrats M.O.- Level the playing field, everyone gets a trophy, no matter who earned it or who deserves it. Everyone is equal, we all share wealth, no one is smarter than anyone else. This land is your land, this land is my land………

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:21pm

      I respectfully disagree, sir!

      This land isn’t their land. Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea are.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:22pm

      From the Commie Rallies and Abortion Alleys, This Land Was Made For You and Me.

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    • Tyrone
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:24pm

      What these meadow muffin eaters do not understand is that there is no such thing as a level playing field. Thia is America! The intelligent hard workers will always succeed. The lazy no- good hand holder outers will always have their hand out stretched out for a freebee.

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  • pajamash
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:08pm

    Rush has a good point. I have had NO issues with pulling up information on the web. Has anyone else?

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:19pm

      Never once… but government is now controllig it.

      Wanna bet you will soon?

      I expect that Beck‘s interpretation is more correct than anyone else’s. This is creeping government at its worst. They want to drag Rush before the FCC for incindiary statements. How long before they’re dragging us before the FCC for incindiary comments her or on twitter?

      Hell- I deliberately tweak one guy just because his whole MO is to take one-off, out of context tweets and make people look racist and bigoted. I figure if I’m gonna be dragged through the mud, I may as well do what I’m being accused of. It’s more honest my way, because everyone knows in advance I’m just tweeting it to tweak him.

      Now can I expect to be dragged in front of the FCC by some rabid Leftist Statist hell bent on silencing “offensive” speech, like Rush? Maybe one day, but I guarantee the next day I sue based upon the unConstitutionality of a five member oligarchy (the FCC) having the power to do what the First Amendment says the Federal government can’t do.

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    • AwakeandInformed
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:59pm

      Only when searching “obamacare.” Keeps going to a government website! LOL

       
  • dwh320
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:07pm

    It’s far from over. One thing we should have all learned about Obama and the Progressives is that they offer one story but behind the seams they have a play in the works to gain control.

    This lame duck congress shows that clear as day. The Progressive (Democrat AND Republican) are busy shoving in as much as they can to destroy the foundations of our nation. If you think for one moment that the electoral college will not be changed by slick tricks with the Census your a fool.

    Look at what they have done in just two years.. Nationalized most of the auto industry, nationalized health care, Nationalized most of the financial system, nationalized upper education, doubled the national debt, passed DADT, took over the internet, and now they have passed the START treaty without review and limited debate,

    It will take generations to clean up the mess Progressives have created in just two years.

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:39pm

      It may take a generation or two to undo the mess the Progressives have made in the last century, yet we will clean it up and restore the nation to the greatness she is meant to be.

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:20pm

      Unless things change immediately within the halls of congress your outlook looks a bit rosey. The country has been too panzified to have an actual revolution, and at this point it doesn’t look like anything short of that is going to deter business as usual on capital hill.

      They can and at this point are on track to do enough damage to the foundation of the country that it will collapse econmoically. Our security is already a joke and they neuter the military a bit more each day.

      You say it’ll take a few generations to fix what has been broken, but in a few generations we’re likely to be North Mexico, the United American Emirates, or Western China. People can spout all the patriotic rhetoric they like, but in the end people can’t make a difference against an out of control government unless they are willing to take up arms in that cause. Elections are so rife with fraud and double agent candidates that the government no longer represents the people, and they don’t really care what you think aobut it so no amount of letter writing is going to do squat.

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  • knotaclu
    Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:06pm

    The man is never wrong. Thank God for Rush……

     
    • @leftfighter
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:11pm

      Ditto(s) ;-)

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    • Lantern
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:17pm

      He may not run for office, but at least give him a cabinet post in the next Republican’s administration in 2012..

      Lantern  
    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:20pm

      Just 3 people could do this ?
      Just 3 ?
      Whatever happened to those we elected to take decisions on our behalf ?

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    • Major Infidel
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:27pm

      Leave it to Rush to find a Progressive in the wood pile.

      This man should be on the 2012 ballot with a certain NJ Governor.

      Glenn and Palin can pick up in 2020.

      We’ll just force have to force Rush and Glenn to serve.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:28pm

      Isn’t that what the Democrats always do? Create a solution and convince the useless idiots that there is a problem that it needs to fix?

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:38pm

      The Progressives seek to crush whatever has the potential to cause problems unto them. In order to stop the internet, save for their own usage of propaganda, and their own supporters, they now have the means to destroy it totally. Just await for the first ‘internet emergency’ along with some other kind of ‘event’ to occur and the lines of commerce and communications go away.

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    • mossbrain
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:43pm

      He is one of the dumbest blocks of cement in human history. Nothing more than a mechanical foghorn blaring out the same old propaganda.

      mossbrain  
    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:49pm

      if you are a mainline republican Rush is right 100% of the time.
      because the republicans are never wrong and the dems are never right.
      5 Yr manditory sentence is good for possetion of pot.
      But Hillbilly heroin (Oxycontin) is ok you don’t even loose your fcc license
      you can’t get any righter than that.
      http://dailygrail.com/blogs/fahim-knight/2009/4/Rush-Limbaugh-Talking-Loud-and-Saying-Nothing

      tower7femacamp  
    • mossbrain
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:53pm

      I mean Rush the giant windbag, not Glenn who actually is smart. Just because they have a similar outlook don’t confuse the static stupidity of a hudge block of cement, Rush, with the fluidity of a running stream, Glenn.

      mossbrain  
    • suttonea76
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:54pm

      Are we due for another civil war? I am f’n steaming right now. I know I need to maintain my cool, but I want heads to roll for this. Am I to believe that NPR and its socialistic agenda will be spewed into the air as the dominant personality? I don’t think the progressives and liberals realize the sleeping giant they are about to awake. I think the apathy of the conservatives has lasted way too long and we need to be bold and forceful. I officially declare Obama and his cronies a threat to national security. I truly believe that he is by far the worst president in the history of the free world. Can 2012 get here any quicker to oust this douchebag and expose and eradicate this feces of so called leadership from power? Conservatives fought to free the slaves, so let’s fight to keep ourselves from being enslaved in this regime. You are officially on my s%$t list Obama…..(I think I am turning green)

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 4:55pm

      Rush is right on target once again. Glenn, you should go to a Rush seminar and pick up some skills.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:00pm

      Rush and the Bohemian Grove
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2r5eGjYZA0

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:01pm

      Thank God for Rush? For what? I listen to Rush, but lets be real. We already knew that Net Neutrailty is going to be a bad idea that will lead to more losses of our freedoms. Its just the first step. I know some of you will be offended, but the Powers in our government are not afraid of Rush…or Hanity…or O’Reilly….or whomever. They are a nuisance to them like a gnat on a bulls butt, but it is not going to stop the bleeding. Washington does not fear the American people. That’s why its called tyranny. I’m glad the Founders were men of action instead of talk radio hosts. Otherwise, freedom would have been just a pipe dream.

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:06pm

      And so the noose is tightened on us just a little more.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:17pm

      @Tower-The word is spelled “possession.” I believe he had a prescription for it and was never convicted of any crime. Whereas marijuana is illegal in most places. If you want to legalize it, talk to your state reps. or go to California and get a prescription.
      I take Oxycodone three times a day for similar to the same back and neck pain that Rush had. Doesn’t seem to do anything for me or to me, but I am told that I would notice it if I quit taking it.
      @Moss-If you had actually listened to Rush, you will find that he IS right, as he says, 99.7% of the time. He knows what he is talking about. So does Glenn.

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    • John 1776
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:21pm

      The FCC was set up to control the distribution of broadcast frequencies so radio stations would not overlap. Then they expanded and began controlling content. Then they moved into wired communications. STOP! We need to pull the funding of the FCC and return the level of control to an agency that licenses frequencies. In other words, back to their original, non-socialist, purpose.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:22pm

      @ Cheez – youre right. 3 people just changed the law at thier own whim…thinking back, I’m not sure who I voted for in these past elections to sit on the board at the FCC….hmmmm….. I’m drawing a blank….. maybe I made some notes on who my favorties were – they are probably with my notes on who I voted for at the FDA, EPA, USDA, FTC, and all the other agencies that make laws and regulations these days.

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    • DashRipRock
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:25pm

      A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
      John Stuart Mill

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    • DashRipRock
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:28pm

      An argument fatal to the communist theory, is suggested by the fact, that a desire for property is one of the elements of our nature.
      Herbert Spencer

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    • DashRipRock
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:35pm

      For if any man who never saw fire proved by satisfactory arguments that fire burns. His hearer’s mind would never be satisfied, nor would he avoid the fire until he put his hand in it that he might learn by experiment what argument taught.
      Roger Bacon

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    • NickDeringer
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 5:57pm

      Thanks for stating the obvious, Rush.

      Rush is a talker not a doer. The time for talk is over. Our liberties are being ripped out of our hands. It’s time to elect true conservatives. It’s time to educate our kids. It’s time to take back our country from these Marxists.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 6:00pm

      Yes once again RUSH IS RIGHT!

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    • DagneyT
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 6:12pm

      The FCC has no right to regulate anything other than public airwaves, so this net neutrality vote is outside their purview! It is NOT their right to do so!

      Mega-dittos, Rush!

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 6:41pm

      Anonymous T. Irrelevant thanks for the spell check, too bad you
      cannot reason as well as you can spell.
      If I spent millions on lawyers I’m sure like Will Nelson Pot
      would not seem so bad.
      And people go to jail everyday for using Oxycontin

      Here is what the record to date shows: Mr. Limbaugh’s housekeeper, Wilma Cline, approached Florida media and Florida authorities to reveal that she had acted as Rush Limbaugh’s drug buyer for years, purchasing “more than 30,000 hydrocodone, Lorcet and OcyContin pills,“ and she reports he ”took as many as 30 OxyContin pills a day.”**** Florida authorities then began investigating, and Ms. Cline’s allegations have apparently proved solid, certainly solid enough for the State of Florida to take action.

      This means, of course, that for quite a long period Mr. Limbaugh was heavily abusing prescription narcotics while continuing to conduct his radio talk show. In short, this means that Mr. Limbaugh was often under the influence of drugs when he was on the air, delivering a hard right-wing message. To be truly blunt, it appears he was stoned while adhering to a position that anyone who uses drugs should be incarcerated.

      Obviously this is the very definition of hypocrisy.
      http://www.bradleyreport.net/commentary/StonedRush.htm

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    • guyperram
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 7:12pm

      Tower7femacamp: Isn’t America Grand! You can be on the radio, as you say, stoned, and still have more upstairs than all the politicians combined!
      Not to mention, have the largest radio show, and make more money (legally) than 97% of Americans. Man did I ever get into the wrong industry!
      I don’t know about you, but I will admit I am jealous.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 8:05pm

      hey Rush the NWO is real and you are either Dumb or an insider to it.
      http://endtimepilgrim.org/nwo.htm

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    • Charbet
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 9:07pm

      Love him…Listen to him every day he is on radio!

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 9:27pm

      Actually the “solution in search of a problem” on this issue is about the most reasonable thing I’ve ever heard Rush say, although that phrase has been around for months in connection with this topic before Rush said it. I’m inclined to think that in the long run, this would sort itself out with service providers who don’t censor your access to websites supported by their competitors (like China does) or slow access to those websites to a crawl, would ultimately come out ahead. Ultimately, but I’m not sure how long that would take.

      But I‘ll also say you Blazers don’t quite get it. Maybe your service provider is AT&T and maybe George Soros, who probably controls AT&T since he controls almost everything, decides he doesn’t want you to access this website or FOX or any conservative website. Then, sorry, you have to switch to another provider. Unless you’re willing to pay the extra $20 a month (times one million subscribers = another $200 million/month for George) to get access. So you change and then then Soros tells that provider not to let you access any conservative websites unless you’re willing to fork over an extra $30/month. And then Soros controls the content of the internet for US citizens.

      Okay, that’s extreme, but it is possible without net neutrality. Net neutrality doesn’t mean the Government controls what access you have (please, that’s untrue, read some news y’all! and stop saying that), it means people like Soros can control what access you have from your (his) service provider.

      This isn’t about government control, this is about the government preventing service providers from censoring what you can see. If that’s nice to you, go live in Iran or China. If you want access to the internet, including the obscure right wing blogs and sites like this, ones Soros – who basically controls everything – doesn’t want you to see, then support net neutrality.

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 21, 2010 at 9:59pm

      I have to comment on snowleopard3200 {mix art}’s post. Snow, please. Your quasi-religious prophesies of doom and gloom, the coming revolt and overthrow of the US government (almost here! just around the corner! It‘s coming I’m serious!) are entertaining and echo a long line, stretching back thousands of years, of not-quite-together Prophets just like you speaking on street corners and telling everyone who will listen that “the end is near.” It’s a hoot reading your posts and egging other people on toward you vision of the Apocalypse, as your kind has been doing since time began.

      But it’s evident that you are neither a pastor or a follower of Christ. Your xenophobia, your bile toward anyone who disagrees with your opinions makes that very obvious. But enough of that.

      Those thoughts came to my mind reading your statement that, “The Progressives seek to crush whatever has the potential to cause problems unto them.” Your junior high English teach would have circled that in red: “…cause problems to them,“ or ”cause them problems” would be proper use of contemporary English. But your “unto them” faux religious language just make you sound like a fraud.

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    • sabichan
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 1:07am

      @JZS

      Ostensibly, you’re right. Unfortunately you‘re overlooking what the FCC’s order actually is. It does not keep business from prioritizing traffic. I am literally watching a replay of the FCC decision on c-span right now, and from the very get go it is clear that it is about government control.

      The FCC has not said, “No company can restrict or prioritize traffic”. Instead it says that no company can unreasonably restrict or prioritize traffic. Who determines what is unreasonable?

      But you already know that answer to that, don’t you?

      The FCC is implementing broad language so that it can control what companies do with the internet. Companies can still discriminate, they just have to get the government to approve it. This is not free internet, it is not neutral internet. It is controlled internet, plain and simple.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:07am

      Chavez thinks that Obama’s FCC is great.

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    • suttonea76
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 8:13am

      @JZS – Once you again you think in the shallow end of the pool. This IS a nudge for control. The FCC has been around for almost 80 years and this is the greatest control effort given to them since their inception. Stop looking at the literal translation of what they are doing and think ahead, as that seems to be very difficult for you to grasp as I have objectively looked at your posts for weeks and found very little merit and in depth thinking within them. When was the last time a government funded entity came right out and told you what their ultimate plan was………never happened, and it’s because all would reject it, but when you disguise it to look like you are protecting people, then the shallow pool thinkers eat it up and think it’s fair and just. Once again history paves the way for the intellectuals and rounds up the ignorant.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 8:50am

      all the pieces seem to be falling in place. Guns has to be next issue.

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    • Miguelito
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 9:43am

      For true beleivers….God promises that no weapons formed against us will prosper!

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 10:25am

      suttonea76 – sorry you don’t find merit in my posts. Maybe you do find merit in other posts here that either are anti-Obama screeds or paranoia of a “government takeover.” I doubt many people anywhere, especially educated people, would consider the average opinion expressed here “intellectual” but if you do, then great.

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    • suttonea76
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 10:48am

      @JZS – So you came to that conclusion by yourself, huh! I will gladly enlighten you to the reason why people are afraid and outraged and the ever closing in on our liberties. Government to this day is bigger than it has ever been and is constantly challenging the authority of the Constitution. Being told to do something based on morals and ethics from our own government is a challenge to the Constitution and a hypocritical notion of fairness as the government has no basis to point out ethics when they don’t practice them themselves. If you support and listen to our government for advice then who is the real paranoid one here? Small government and limited control has never failed and the FCC is funded by federal tax dollars, so that offers the notion that government has their hands in how we see and view things….ultimately they want more control. Why can’t we have a government that decides to strip away power by closing the worthless Homeland Security, Department of Education, Department of Agriculture and other entities of frivolous spending. Not only would corrupted regulations disappear, but our tax rate would lessen thus improving circulation of the dollar. You see, the liberal agenda is that of shallow thinking and they don’t see things happening when they make landmark decisions. The FCC is just another power struggle for the government to silence opposition and retain power. Why is it so hard for you to understand that arguments, opinions and intellectual dialogue is what actually defines freedom and not like minded zombies who pay into a corrupt system that benefits the few and assigns blame to others. America was built to hear all sides on all fronts regardless if it offends you or I. So instead of letting people speak there minds, we have to regulate speech…clearly unconstitutional, but yet they label it Net Neutrality to circumvent the system. Our government is evil and needs to fall and the real revolution should fight based on the STRICT, Thomas Jefferson molded interpretation of the Constitution. You see JZS, I read documents drafted by the founding fathers and their memoirs as they were the clearest thinkers. Our country has been in decline for a LONG time and idiot liberals have a voice because it is supported, but conservatives are not afforded that same privelege anymore which is clearly defined by NET NEUTRALITY.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 11:00am

      @Cheezwhiz

      You said:

      “Just 3 people could do this ?
      Just 3 ?
      Whatever happened to those we elected to take decisions on our behalf ?”

      Well cheez, welcome to what we used to call a “dictatorship” back in the days when language was clear and unambiguous.

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    • iamhungry
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:05pm

      @John1776, the FCC was set up to oversee communications. Radio was the first medium but there are now more which need regulation for a similar reason that radio did. Once they step outside overseeing communications then you can start complaining about overreach.

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    • *************************
      Posted on December 23, 2010 at 2:02am

      “Rush Limbaugh attacked the idea, calling a ‘solution in search of a problem’.”

      Wrong. This IS a solution for that scourge of communists … free political speech and the truth of what Progressives (communists) are doing in America.

      “Let’s face it. Eweything below the waist … is kaput!’ -Lily Con Schtupp, Blazing Saddles

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