Rush: Obama’s Organizing for America Funneling Protesters Into Wisconsin
- Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:41pm by
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As Wisconsin union workers continue to protest Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s budget proposal, Organizing for America — the Democratic National Committee’s campaign arm housed at BarackObama.com — is “mobilizing to defend Wisconsin‘s public employees’ right to organize.”
During his Wednesday broadcast, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh condemned the outspoken protesters for shutting down the work of democratically elected representatives doing the “people’s business.”
Building on the momentum in Wisconsin, OFA has also started to mobilize its army of followers in Ohio and Indiana where measures similar to Gov. Walker’s are taking shape.
On Thursday, an estimated crowd of more than 1,000 descended on the Ohio statehouse in Columbus to march in favor of state workers’ collective-bargaining privileges. According to one report from the Huffington Post, organizing efforts in Ohio are “about a week behind that in Wisconsin.”
A DNC staffer told The Huffington Post that the group upped its efforts in Wisconsin after Chairman Tim Kaine spoke with local legislators last week. OFA then began organizing turnout for Thursday’s statehouse rally and running phone banks in Ohio targeting state senators, which are slated to continue next week. This weekend, organizers have set up door-to-door canvassing in key districts that they hope will likewise put pressure on swing lawmakers.
OFA National Deputy Director Jeremy Bird said volunteers first alerted the group to the contested Ohio legislation. “The energy is pretty remarkable,” he told The Huffington Post. “People started to contact us, and they’d call our office and our volunteers, and say, ‘This is a big deal. This is going to affect my family.’ … That started to really simmer earlier this week in Ohio, and it’s starting to pick up the pace.”
In Ohio, major labor unions including AFSCME and the AFL-CIO are also stepping up the pressure against Gov. John Kasich (R) and the bill’s supporters. The AFL-CIO estimated that tens of thousands of phone calls, emails and handwritten postcards have been delivered to state senators in opposition to the legislation, and a spokesman said the protests will continue in the coming weeks.
In the meantime, El Rushbo is praising Gov. Walker for standing firm in the face of powerful special interest groups looking to shut his proposal down.
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Comments (341)
Look4DBigPicture
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:21pmGovernment unions make no sense and should be declared unconstitutional. These people are paid with taxpayer money, and should not be getting more benefits than the taxpayer. If they have no appreciation for what they have, they need to step aside and allow someone else to take their place.
Report Post »MCGIRV
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:34pmHear hear!
Report Post »Rick in Iowa
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:25pmI agree whole hardheartedly, and I work for a state agency. Not all of us support the unions
Report Post »USAPLISKENXI
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:36amFire them like Reagan did & hire more…simple
Report Post »ProudTeaPartyMember
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:18pmThat’s what Obama “do”. He’s nothing other than a Con Man Community Organizer.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:04amYou rodeo clowns are on the wrong side of this one. You can’t hold up Tea Party people as patriots for protesting and then paint teachers and cops and firefighters and nurses as radical leftwing socialists thugs for doing the same thing.
Here’s your real problem. Most of America is a helluva lot smarter than you people. And we’re paying attention. And we see your hypocrisy for what it is. You’ve made the ultimate mistake – you believe your own propaganda. Death for the conservative movement is creeping back into the American consciousness. Proof? Ask karl Rove about the birthers. honestly, you people are more ignorant and petty than I believed possible.
Nobama12
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:20amJUST WHAT MY NAME SAYS NO BAMA IN 2012 ,, We look at the senate seats avail and put strong republicans to fill those Seats……. WE all know obama will not win ,,,so we get our people in the key seats needed to take the house and the senate. Then with the New republican President ,,and only then after the libs have been fired or ousted will we begin to get our country back and make sure DEMOCRATS ARE BANNED FROM CONGRESS FOR NEXT 50 YRS.
TEA PARTY REPUBLICAN
Report Post »cece959
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:53am@DawgofGawd…….The death of conservatism? I think not. We don’t begrudge them the right to protest. What we do begrudge them is their rolls royce pensions and health benefits that we, the taxpayers, have to pay for and they do not. We begrudge them sitting home on their asses while they are laid off and making more money on unemployment than they make working (and I know this to be a fact)! Everyone has to tighten the belt, but they feel that they should be exempt from that. No, no, that won’t do here. Not anymore. They are no better than the rest of us just because they pay union dues. If you’re okay with them pilfering from you for their benefits, then you are either independently wealthy or you are just plain ignorant.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:32amhey you puke, we’ll see who is ignorant soon enough! We don’t think protesting is wrong, but you have to protest for the right reasons…this BS going on now is just that! All the Gov of WI is asking for is for them to contribute a paltry $200 to fund HC and pensions, and he is doing away with uinion dues, about $500/mo…now that sounds reasonable to me. so what the F are they protesting about then? power, greed and selfishness! The Tea Party protested, peacefully to lower taxes and spending, to help ALL of America, but these thugs just think about themselves, and they bring kids, yes chidlren to the protests, and the majority of them have no idea what they are protesting about…so jam it up your arse! Please do protest, but the minute it becomes violent, and you freaking leftists are a violent lot, you WILL BE SORRY! Go ahead and force the hand, see what you get.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 5:38pmHeel, dawg of gawd!
Report Post »You are either confused or purposely creating confusion. No matter. Either way you’re attempt is noted and then cataloged as the noise it truly is.
ladyda
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:17pmThis will affect “their families?” What about all the families paying for these nice cushy benefits and salaries, who live paycheck to paycheck, hoping they can see their way clear to put something aside for “THEIR OWN” families? Lord God, how self centered and GREEDY can these people be? True Americans……Union families (I will not say “WORKER”, for to me that creepy word sounds a lot like SLAVERY & COMMUNISM)….stand up, tell your “masters” that this is not the right thing to do for your County, for your State, for your Country. Sanity…..PLEASE!
Report Post »NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:17pmI believe that the day of the unions is coming to a close. I see the need (to an extent) for the private sector unions. The public sector should have never been allowed to unionize (at least the way it is now).
Report Post »The gov is on the right track. If it were me, I would tell them all to be back at work Monday morning or join the un-employment lines.
MomaGrisley2
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:16pmPray this does not escalate to Marshall Law. Off to Grocery Store to stock up for insurrection!
Report Post »inimicaleagle
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:23amThe fight for America is on.
Report Post »to join the fight, join us at inimicaleagle.org
mickycohen71441
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:15pmI keep saying this whole thing is Democratic in nature. I think it’s safe to say that if Democrats had their way, there would be NO republican party. Gee… Isn’t communism democratic in nature? (correct me IF i’m wrong here…but I haven’t come across a republican dictator. They always seem to be so left-winged and democratic…) Americans need to wake up from the delusion the Democrats have us living in.
Report Post »Arbroath7
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:15pmA union is a social disease!
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:18pmIgnorance and fear are a much worse social disease if you ask me.
Report Post »Super Mario
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:59pmClearly you’ve never been taken advantage of by a large corporation, then.
Report Post »Arbroath7
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:49amSEIU, AFL-CIO, IBEW, AFGE, etc., are, or have become, variants of the same cancerous disease … unions. It has metastasized and is destroying this country. Once upon a time this wasn’t so, but the corrupt union leadership, in their quest for ever greater power — and on the backs of the rank and file — continually demonized and scapegoated companies and their owners, whether warranted or not. If they could keep the trusting workers demanding more and more and more and more, year after year after year after year, their power was assured. As a result whole industries fell and continue to fall. Union leadership have become the true oppressors of the workers.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:11pmProfessional protesting like this into someone else’s State is clearly something that needs to be made illegal.
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:38pmit is RACKETEERING.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:35amFina_Biscotti
Report Post »Yes, unions as they are run, are a protection racket, robbing from those people that they say they’re protecting. I would like to see a specific law that prevents groups from making trouble in other States and one against professional trouble makers in general.
cece959
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:55amYou won’t see one because our own president would have to be on that list.
Report Post »Lunytoon95
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:10pmJust ignore them just like barry ignored the Tea Party.
Report Post »“Im sorry, there was a union baby blathering protest? Sorry, I missed it. Didn’t even know it was going on.”
APatriotFirst
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:07pmNon union worker in Wi. does not get a pension.
Union member in WI. gets pension becuse that non union worker is paying for it.
Some American workers…unions….should hang their heads in shame for what they are taking from their neighbors and in some cases even their own relatives. They must laugh all the way to their retirement day.
Report Post »fastfwd
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:07pmThis man is a disgrace to the office of the President ! He is braking the Constitution of the United States by helping bring civil unrest into a State !!! For the love of God someone file charges of treason on this man and his administration !
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:16pmOH SURE we can call a man treasonous because he has some vague relation to protests yet when he commits a country to war for no reason other than sheer greed he is a hero for all time.
Stopit
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:34pm@STUPID
Report Post »Hey Stupid, “vague relation”!!! As if the ex community organizer and democrat-in-chief has no influence on what the DNC does in its community organizing activities in shipping in union thugs from out of state? And his feeding the fire with inciteful rhetoric…admitted to be out of ignorance, yet still ignorantly given…yea. I do agree with you below though…ignorance and fear are worse than a social disease…they’re a socialist desease!
Super Mario
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:58pm@ FASTFWD …. *Breaking
@STOPIT…. *Disease
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:10pmYou obviously seem to miss the fact that all sides play politics.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:08pmi agree, windmill…this prez and the last one are both dirtbags
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:11pmhey – Obama’s political contributor Gyorgy Schwartz/George Soros is making money on the wars – bc of his “bought-and-paid-for” stooge……..and is also helping to “loot” the US Treasury – in repeated abuses of US taxpayer money – to fund the financial ventures of Soros and the alternative energy scams of Al Gore – as if the US Treasury is their private sector bank.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:20pmvague relation, windmill? i agree with you about the last prez though…not good…neocon thug then a marxist thug
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:34pm@FASTFWD
Report Post »Lets not forget he’s suing Arizona for enforcing immigration law and has 10 latin countries suing them as well. He is a disgrace.
VermontPatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:15amWow Stupid Windmill…your name is right on!
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:32pm@Stupid Pull your head out of your bunghole. Keep wasting your time commenting hear. You are a fool on a fool’s errand.
Report Post »tacomia
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:03pmHere come da bus.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:03pmWisconsin teacher salary facts: Salary info Big Labor doesn’t want you to see:
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/watch-wisconsin-part-iv-the-salary-info-big-labor-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:19pmI like how they call it Big Labor. As if Labor unions have any power.
God damn.
Report Post »Super Mario
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:56pmIt‘s funny that people like Michelle Malkin cling so diligently and desperately to the idea that the only giant organizations that are bad for the country are the ones that aren’t contributing financially to their party. If Big Oil had an issue with something you can be sure Malkin and her ilk would be out there defending their right to speak.
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:37amthanks for the information =
average Milwaukee teacher earns – $56,500.00 in salary w $43,505.00 in benefits = $100,005.00 in compensation for the year.
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:03pmUnions were thrilled to share in the boom times. Little did we know that when the Taxpayers hit the hard times that the union would think they are above taking the hits in the hard times.
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:00pmUsurper Obama/Soetoro should be removed from office – as UNFIT – in his continued abuse of our US taxpayer money – for his PROPOGANDA, PARTISAN POLITICS – in funding protests to force his radical agenda upon America.
He is an ABSOLUTE disgrace!
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:58pmThe Governor of Wisconsin should get the National Guard – and tear gas….
Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:17amIf they get violent, I hope he does. He can call out the National Guard too. The Gov commands the NG. Not the Feds. I think.
Report Post »duane38637
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:54pmI hope the American people see this and finally wake up but the lib media will make the Gov look like the beast.
Report Post »Webpatriot
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:54pmExactly. This is a representative Democracy not a Dictatorship, nor is it mob rule (Classic Democracy). This is subverting the Democratic process and to their shame, the Democratic Representatives are complicit in this shameful action. This is nothing but Union thuggery being used to force an outcome that they don’t want. This is why public Unions are dangerous to this Republic.
Report Post »Miami Bob
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:52pmSo the unions what an Egyptian type protest? Maybe the National Guard should use some tear gas canisters to give them something to complain about…
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »I hope the tear gas canisters are Union-made. Poetic justice!!!
Then again, they probably wouldn’t work.
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snidley-whiplash
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:54pmOnly if they were made in Egypt!
Report Post »Mister_Bill
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:39pmHey MIAMI_BOB, Maybe that is how we can we can create some more jobs. Open up a factory for crowd control gear, like rubber bullets and pepper spray etc…etc. We can then conscript the State public union workers to work in the factory. That way they can have some pride in what they make. It seems that they have no pride for being an American right now from what see them saying now. Remember the revolution continues in 2012 – Vote. (If in Chicago Vote early and vote often [From the Mr_Ed show])
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:51pmI have to laugh at that video with picture after picture of that fat blowhard posing as if he was attractive. Such an abnormal delusional egomaniac.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:11pmAd Hominem LOOK IT UP – this kid of argument is called Fallacious for a reason.. and it cant win an argument YOULOOSE……
Report Post »WPBR1340AM.com
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:54pmOne that has his own show I might add.I love libs who have nothing else to attack Limbaugh so they attack his appearance. He is not handsome like Michael Moore. You guys hate a man who present facts. Now that’s funny.
Report Post »TERMLIMITSNOW
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:18pmthats pretty funny mossbrain…but el rushbo would OWN you!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:49pmObamaland is trying to force Chaos to take shape so he can call for an emergency state and move the military in. Remember in his first couple of months in office when King Obie made the statement about their ought to be a government security police – separate from the military.
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:54pmActually – he first stated in July 2008 during a speech (while he was campaigning
his (obie) words
“”We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We‘ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
and
“People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve.”
Be prepared – Lock and Load
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:57pmI think that if Obama called for martial law, Obama would be among the first to be arrested.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:58pmTwo points here; 1) they want an excuse to disarm us, to seize our guns. Won’t happen at my house. 2) the importance of the Oath Keepers is now more important than ever. Have everyone you know who is police, military, firemen, et al, who took an OATH to uphold our Constitution to sign the Oath Keepers website, so that should such a time as you suggest come about, they will refuse to come after WE THE PEOPLE!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:07pm@Etetet
I remember that part of the speech, and the progressives and democrats around me howling with joy over those words. When I dared to object to what the POTUS said, I gained the scar on my cheek and ear from his knife; thankfully my sight was already lost in that eye from an abusive uncle, so I am missing nothing there.
Decide people today where you will stand.
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:13pm@ etetetet
Report Post »There already is a government police. Look up the FEMA charter. All it takes is for Obama to declare marshal law. It is very close to happening.
Look4DBigPicture
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:25pmYep … I remember him saying that … but he didn’t count on people being smart enough to see right through him. He thought we were all stooges with half a brain.
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:13pmHe will do it when they cant get his demonic budget passed and instead of shutting the government down he will attempt to impose marshall law… at that point all bets are off..
Report Post »JamesInGermany
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:49pmHere‘s yet another example of BHusseinO’s “civility”…maybe you remember:
“Argue with neighbors! Get in their face!”
Report Post »JamesInGermany
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:01pmRemember when Obama asked his supporters to snitch on neighbors who did not support Obamacare?
I can understand some may consider this an exaggeration…but, this administration increasingly reminds me of the Third Reich.
Report Post »stacybernardslay
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:48pmCan‘t afford ’em anymore.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:33amAnd I say…Fire Or disclipine the teachers that lied about being too sick to come to work…what are they teaching the kids? Class Warfare…that’s what they are teaching… that the rich should pay……..disgusting.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:45pmThe long waited for cloward/piven moment. Thanks again, for your great leadership, Mr. president.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:03pmObama still fails to understand the one great problem with his plan to destroy America; it is the folks of America themselves not going along with the plan.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »BINGO!!, Snowleopard.
We are not a bunch of 3rd world peons who bend over for every dictator that comes along.
We’re AMERICANS!!!
It would have been a lot easier for this moron of a president to take over a country that’s never known freedom. We’ve had it for 234+ years and we’re not going to give it up. EVER!
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inimicaleagle
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:13amThe fight for America is on.
Report Post »inimicaleagle.org
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:44pmDas Hitler youth? Das brownen shirten? Das SS coming to a town near you, soon?
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:51pmBut…bbbbut….buut…but Hussain said yesterday that he don’t know nuthin about no Wisconsin kerfuffle :-(
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:02pm@Tsunami and Cheezwhiz
We now have a president who hates opposition like Nixon did, will seek anything out to crush any who stand in the way of his plans; and will lie, manipulate, and organize violence against them while preparing for the usage of violance to ‘save the nation from our problems’ and destroy the last vestige of liberty and freedom we have at hand.
He wants us to hand our liberty over to him and the progressives; and we are near that point if the people will not stand strong against the night, and against the chaos enveloping the world and is now starting to emerge in America.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:42amSnow,
Report Post »Nixon resigned.
One1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:03amFreedom (which is our power) like energy is neither created nor destroyed. It can only be transferred. We give up our freedom our power will be transferred to the government. By: DLB
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:43amStop with the Obama is like Nixon crap, Nixon loved America, and was using the power of the office to spy on a group of democrats that were doing illegal stuff, like liberals always do, to try to harm America, the left made a mountain out of a mole hill, and the media helped to demonize him. Their typical name calling, lies, and threats of violence worked yet again, they did it in the 60′s, did it in the 70′s with abortions and Nixon, did it in the 80′s against Reagan, did it in the 90′s against Bush, did it in the 2000′s against Bush 2, and doing the same crap against Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Tea Party.
Report Post »LAMET
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:51am@kryptonite – ONLY BECAUSE of 2 BRAVE JOURNALISTS who took the initiative and investigated and EXPOSED NIXON”S illegal tactics – that he resigned. THEY RISKED THEIR CAREERS to BRING us the TRUTH.
We NEED MORE WOODWARD AND BERNSTEINS to stand up and DO WHAT IS RIGHT! Not more of the LAME STREAM MEDIA PAID TO MISINFORM.
Glenn and Rush are our current Woodward and Bernsteins – EXPOSING the PROGRESSIVES AND THEIR AGENDA,
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:54amswampy, I’m not even sure he even authorized it. I think he just covered for his overzealous flunkies. That electon was never in question and there was no logical reason for the break in. He was not a stupid man.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:42pmLabor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
Report Post »Abraham Lincoln
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:55pmNotice that Lincoln didn’t say “Unionized Labor”?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:58pmSo when people want change to happen, and elect politicians who carry out their wishes, then it is okay for the Fed‘s and the POTUS to organize opposition to the people’s will being carried out? I thought in this country we still were to be governed as a republic, not by mob rule, or by a president who now shows as much hatred for his opposition as Nixon has for anyone standing against him.
So now Obama is to be the new Nixon, and seeks the end of the country like FDR and Wilson.
Figures. At least the truth is now self evident for anyone with their eyes open to the facts.
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:06pmThe term “ collective bargaining” is libberish for the English term
Report Post »“ boot on the neck ”
Quagaar Warrior
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@ TSUNAMI-22
Besides, these are public sector Union drones. They produce nothing but crap. It‘s because of them that our kids can’t even read thier own undeserved high school diplomas.
Report Post »Time for vouchers!
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tradexpertbuysell
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:10pmSo Obama’s signature is on this astroturf event.
Good bye in 2012! Don’t let the door hit you on the ass!
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:15pm@13th
Tell that to the LAW when they come to Seize your A$$ETS on the debt “Abe”.
This is some display of what “Devilcrats” are…devils, anarchist devils, and devilish community riot leaders…led by the devilcrat organizer party. Real grass-roots…NOT
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:22pmDefund Organizing for America if they are on the take.
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:25pmYa, but Lincoln wasn’t a communiest, and he wasn’t for destroying America at any cost.
dcwu
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:28pmLabor produces money.
Report Post »Money not spent is capital.
BMartin1776
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:30pm“The Devils hands are busy” ie Org. for America…. Im waiting to hear the excuses for this from the head community organizer or maybe he will have Craig “The Carnival Carney” come out and say he hasnt heard any of this just like he said he didnt know of UK, Germany, and France saying multiculturalism doesn’t work.
Useful idiots is the best way to describe the majority attending the protest. A handful have a legit beef but the rest are only there b/c they were told or asked to go as we are now seeing. Im curious where are you TEA Party members of WI? Where is the counter protest on this. You all know these people would mobilize against anything you do but when they are mobilized where are you?
Get ready kids the powers that be are manipulating us all into class warfare… Yes in that statement I also include the republican b/c they are being awfully silent here too. Where are they to speak on this? I just got better understanding on this after listening to Stuart Varney on O’Reilly for 10 mins. Would be nice if some republicants would explain it than some TV personality!
http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:33pm@ Quagaar Warrior
I agree. Only then will the youth be re-introduced to the motivation and incentive to be better than they think they can be. Dependency will wither and die, and personal responsibility will start to thrive once again.
Report Post »WPBR1340AM.com
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:45pmTime to renegotiate all public sector union contracts. We are broke folks, broke. No more money. Many states can‘t pay half it’s bills. Where do these people think the money is coming from? SS recipients are going to take a cut. ALL OF US.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:47pm!3th gen of commies, Public workers unions AKA “The Government” organizing to milk the taxpayer. And you are good with that? Time to start the taxpayers union and put our dollars on strike
hifi74
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:52pm13th, I’m guessing context means nothing to you.
With that said, I am investing in lead. I’ll be damned if I am going to have these hippies running through my lawn tearing my stuff up.
Angry and Armed in Wisconsin!
IAMIR
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:57pmThere wasn’t a need for organized labor back then. Via the Unions we all enjoy a 40 hour work week, safe working conditions and benefits. If the Union goes in my company my salary will certainly be lower. Unions as a whole are not a bad thing for there is and will be stability and rules that all must abide by. Its when they abuse the power that hurts everyone. They have been wrong in many ways. In many ways they have been right. I have seen open shop employees being used and abused by companies because there isn’t a union to protect the worker. I have also seen where employees benefit greater because Unions aren’t involved and management teams take care of them. Its all circumstantial.
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:58pm@13thgenerationcommunist who is still too stupid to get it.
I repeat: Take your illiteracy elsewhere!
Lincoln was NOT a marxist!
The citation you purposely leave any context or explanation out of is part of an argument AGAINST socialism and FOR a system of free enterprise as outlined in his “Annual Address Before the Wisconsin State Agricultural Society, at Milwaukee, Wisconsin, September 30, 1859.”
Lincoln goes on to outline how marvelous a thing it is that in America, the class of the educated is of a sufficient mass that almost all of us are required to use their own labor to exchange for currency and life’s other necessities so that slavery and servitude are not considered as “necessary” to those of the educated class.
Your very quote condemns your opinions. The WI teachers are withholding labor and STILL demanding capital from the taxpayers.
You are busted again, willfully ignorant troll!
@Slapleft > Would a tag-team with us be called Slap-Happy ?
nzkiwi
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:19pmThis is a fight that Wisconsin and America must win.
It is like the fight that Mararet Thatcher had with the coal miners union about thirty years ago. It was a hellish battle but the union eventually lost and Britain and its economy was vastly improved because of it.
The teachers union is at best, dishonest and apallingly self-interested, and at worst, deliberately politically destructive. In both cases, the victims are their students and the taxpayer.
If Wisconsin does not stick to its guns and win this fight, then another state will have a much greater battle on its hands further down the track.
jbl8199
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:30pmSurprise, surprise. One more thing Beck called out a long time before it happened.
Report Post »BlazingInSC
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:32pmNot applicable. We’re talking about the NON-capital generating liability of PUBLIC workers. They shouldn’t be unionized in the first place.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:36pmUnfortunately 13th, there is one critical error, capital is only a recent development, since the beginning when man was cast out of Eden (or if that ain’t your cup of tea, since the first bacteria came to existence) people have always worked for a reward. “By the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread”. Labor is a means to an end, not an end within itself.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:39pm@ Snow, did you ever really doubt what Obamas intent has been all alone? but it’s good to see him defending the Unions,since they are all hell bent in bringing this nation to her knees,IMPEACH OBAMA Now, sounds like a good slogan to me
Report Post »royalstar
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:50pmThere would be no labor if there weren’t any jobs.
Report Post »scola91660
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 9:58pmblah blah blah
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:07pmEnd unions now is the time we have been fleeced enough by these dirtbags
Report Post »mcfinch
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:15pmI am tired of Obamas thinking he needs to get out.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Video Website
Report Post »Mister_Bill
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:27pmHey 13THGENERATIONAMERICAN, I believe in the words of our Presidents and here in one from another for you to learn: ““It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.” (President Theodore Roosevelt, remark made at the Sorbonne in Paris The Strenuous Life, The Works of Theodore Roosevelt, Vol. 13. April 30, 1910.)” This is the path that I have followed. I worked for myself for years. Do you know who contributed to my healthcare and my retirement? ME. It had to come out of what I paid myself. I have not sympathy for anyone that has no compunction to provide for themselves but want the government to provide for them. One of the leaders of the rally proclaimed that this is the Rebirth of the Progressive movement. Bottom up, top down destroy the Establishment.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:32pm@slimranger
No, Obama has been clear from the start; my sarcasm meter was going full steam, apologies for not being more clear on it.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 10:56pmA conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
thepatriotdave
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:18pmTSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:55pm
“Notice that Lincoln didn’t say “Unionized Labor”?”
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Touche’. 13th usually misses the mark so this was expected.
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:21pmWhen are some of these Union folks going to realize taht what they are doing is being looked upon as being un-American and refuse to go protest?
I think there is some legitimate reasons at times to be in a Union, but lately they simply look like selfish anti-Americans.
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:25pm“El Rushbo is praising Gov. Walker for standing firm in the face of powerful special interest groups”
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I’m with you Rush. Walker has become an American hero, along with Christie, by simply doing what has to be done. It ain‘t pretty and a lot of people don’t want it to happen, but reality says “WE ARE BROKE” and the Gov is acting like a responsible adult. You all remember what that is, right?
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:26pmWell of course someone as liberal and progressive as FDR is going to slam conservatives. That is all they can do. No need to bother with any facts huh 13th? Your sad! You’re a joke! Go away before you embargoes yourself even more.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:28pmstupid t-9 text correction. Not sure why it went with embargoes instead of embarrass as was intended. Either way the statement stands.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:32pmhifi74
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 8:52pm
“With that said, I am investing in lead.”
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Very smart move. It’s now time for all you procrastinators to get off your rear-ends and start preparing. Things are gonna get ugly fairly soon. Once the cities run out of food the masses will head out towards the country where people know a thing or two about growing and storing food. I suggest you start planning with your neighbors about strategy. Not every farm can be saved, so choose wisely which ones you decide to protect.
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:35pmMister_Bill…
Hello Mr. Bill. I’m hoping you are the same Mr. Bill from over at NB. And if you are, it’s glad to hear from you again! http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:48pmso the gov’t should take my capital and assign it to someone else? earned or unearned. how much is enough?
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:11am13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:42pm
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
Abraham Lincoln
When will you and your ilk realize that union bosses are the ones destroying the chances of the union members’ opportunity for wealth and prosperity by robbing the members of their wages through over-extendended dues, allowing illegals to be members through extortive over-payment of dues, and forcing of collective bargaining agreements by members through thug-like tactics? The union leadership is running a ponzi scheme, telling their members that “heck yeah, we go you a massive pention! Work with us for 30 more years and you can retire with riches beyond imagination!!”. When the leadership is fully aware that by the time they have collected their fortunes, and have long been dead, those at age 30 who agree to this madness and are now at whatever retirement age set by collective bargaining, there will be money in the coffer for them, the worker. Unions are not the problem, union leadership is. And those who believe their union will guarentee their future are fools.
Everyone belonging to a union SHOULD rise up in revolution! But NOT against those who employ them and are extorted to give them more than they deserve in a promise un-fulfilable, but rather against those “fat cats’ who lead their union and rob them blindly not only of their union dues now to pay for their estates, but also against their future, whose empty promise of luxory will be a thing they will no longer be able to rebel against.
Smarten up, union members. This is a fact. i know too many union workers and have too many anicdotal stories concerning this. It is fact. And you all, to a man/woman, are being played the fool.
Semper Fi, and I pray you all see the truth before it is too late.
Report Post »saxophonejack
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:12amIronically, and anyone who has ever been part of a Union knows this, unionization, as demonstrated in America today, is the opposite of honest labor. It is, rather, a matter of doing as little as possible while managing to extort as much as possible from the taxpayers or an employer. This is organized and legalized crime. By no means is it honest labor.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:17amI have a question. Since high school kids are being brought in by the busloads, are taxapayer’s paying for the bus drivers and buses. Seems to me those taxpayers include a whole heck of alot of people who think what it going on in Wisconsin is disgusting. Organizing for America, HA! More like Organizing for Trumpka and his goons. I think it may be time to get some counter protesters out in the middle of things. How about this Police, Fire men and women, don’t touch their pay – in fact give them a raise, and the rest of public service employees should be paid the same as private business employees. Seems fair to me. Pathetic that teachers are throwing their students out there – half of them not even knowing about the overwhelming socialist and communist concepts that are protesting. Give me a break. Shame on those teachers. Shame on Obama!
Report Post »One1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:31amFirst of all capital was not the original compensation of labor. The original compensation of labor was the concept of trade. I trade my labor for producing X for your labor for producing Y. It was call “Trade”. Which make labor and capital equal. Not the egg verses the chicken scenerio.
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:47amLabor IS capital.
Remember, we beat all these idiots if we all volunteer and help each other.
Giving always beats buying.
“Free” beats any price.
Report Post »One1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:51amI can understand why we might required unions in the private sector. But why do we need unions in the public sector. Think about it. Unions came about to prevent abuse of employees right. Well, The governments primary job is to prevent abuse which according to dems are best done through regulations. So there should be no need for unions. It is the governments job. Unions should be out lawed.
Report Post »gofigureinternational
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:32amUnfortunately, too many RINO’s and spine deficient Republicans are scared shxtless to step up and take a stand. States and Washington need to DEMAND immediate balanced budgets. There is zero reason that Washington could not roll back to 2006-8 budgetary figures, then go in and raise the ages for S.S. recipients to more closely reflect the growth in life expectancy. Change it so naturalized citizens and anchor babies need to have lived here a specific amount of time to qualify for benefits. Get a hold of our borders so illegals stop bankrupting border hospitals and entitlement programs, which also helps solve the health care/insurance cost issue. Many of the knuckle draggers in Washington WANT America to fail and they have it on the POTUS’s high speed rail headed that way in a hurry! The Blaze article about the $50K salary is an analogy I have been using with friends for a couple years now (only with slightly larger numbers). It makes it easy to understand for even a far left liberal. Most of our citizens have lost track of the fact that “IT IS NOT WASHINGTON’s MONEY”! They will find a way to spend whatever they collect, and MORE! This B.S. of saving x number of dollars over the next 10 years is the same smoke and mirrors that both parties have used for far too long. Look at the gain in population in the last 30-50 years and the increase in “manpower” that the government employs, similarly with the percentage of individuals on entitlement programs outside of retirees on S.S. Compare the percentages and it is staggering! Meanwhile our kids score in the bottom 10% in testing of all industrialized nations. It is sad to watch the intentional destruction of the U.S.!
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:36amTYPICAL commie propaganda.
The unions will be crushed. No one will hire union workers anywhere anymore.
Obama is a Communist.
Report Post »RockerRepublican
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:46am@13thGenerationAmerican – Abraham Lincoln was referring to labor as in “to labor” – to work, to accomplish something – not a unit of workers.
Report Post »RedHarley
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 6:11amIt is strange that the unions are now all about keeping collective bargaining…….Most of them have called it “collective begging” for years.
Report Post »In these states where the governors “get it”. you will have to beg no more.
TheRev1776
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 6:31amLabor can unionize all they want when it comes to private industry. However, you cannot, and will not take my tax dollars and stuff them into a private citizens wallet because they choose they need more or it. It is completely wrong and evil of any private citizen to raid the tax payers wallet at will. The government produces no goods that produces a return in profit. If the UAW wants to pay their clean up guy 50 grand a year then so be it….Ford, GM, Chrysler would just have to sell more cars. What is WI’s government supposed to do ? All the Guv is asking is that they pay 12% of their health premium, which I a private sector worker pays more for, and pay into their own pensions, which I a private sector workers has to pay for. He is only taking bargaining for benefits off of the table, the bill would still allow them to bargain for more money. These idiots have no idea what they are protesting and President Obama is wrong on his view and stance of what is going on and once again has put foot in mouth. I am tired of public sector unions and want them all disbanded. If AFL-CIO wants to unionize every single worker in Walmart so be it……but they shouldn’t be allowed to do it with Uncle Sam-bots. Hell, by their thinking the military should be unionized. Bastards all of them for stealing from us and trying to tell us it‘s it’s their “fundamental human right.”
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:13amAnd Lincoln was right he was talking about private labor not public labor. Private labor and indusrty fuels the capital with tax dollars. Public labor and bureaucracies feed on the taxes provided by private labor. Even the taxes taken out of public workers salaries are actually private labor and industries tax dollars. We could literally pay public workers lower salaries and not tax them and it would still be the same. See public workers are part of the capital not seperate from it.
Report Post »cliKKer
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:34amThe key term is LABOR you have to WORK for what you get. Rush is right… the the democrats are STOPPING democracy. The majority of people in Wisc voted for the current representatives… they are now voting. What do the democrats do? leave so their can be no voting. What do the unions do? fill the chamber so there can be no voting. They bus in kids to protest something they do not understand. These same kids if keep paying these huge bills will get NOTHING when it is there turn. When the democrats were in power it was “democracy” when they voted for things. No republicans in charge it is? oh 13th GenerationAmerican (huffington poster) were is your outrage for the working man? those in the private sector… normally you rage against the wealthy. Do you realize who is the wealthy in this state? the public union worker. They are making double and triple salaries of the average worker… and getting pensions / health benefits the people PAYING the taxes don’t get.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:35am@13th and others~~~ Anyone paying attention to the photo? Look at the eyes of all the “followers”/ paid attendants at the rallies….. Everyone is following someone else. The ONLY set of eyes facing the front, the “enemy” are those of an entitled (check out the latest cellphone I, whatever in her hand, her drink…what is it???, her staged anger) black woman (so you will be called racist for bringing that up) who is posed for the shot (camera shot, that is). Notice the other ethnicities on the front row????? This is sooooooooooo staged it is pathetic.
As a parent, if I were paying through the nose for the education of these “idiots”, I would immediately call them home and cancel this semester’s “studies”. They can get a job…now, there’s an idea, at minimum wage, away from the damn unions and find out what a REAL person’s life is like in this world.
As a college, university administrator, I would place the lying teachers, professors, hired thugs involved in staging or in participating in this mess on permanent leave WITHOUT pay, effective immediately and would begin a search process for REAL teachers. These are NOT AMERICANS involved in demonstrating. There is NO reason to demonstrate in AMERICA unless it is FOR AMERICA. Get over your idiot ideas. Don’t like it here? L-E-A-V-E!
News: We don’t want nor do we need your “change” It is hope-LESS. Go away and take the nasty b****** impostor in OUR HOUSE with you. Go back to Africa where everyone has it “so good”. Go back to the middle east, please. N-O-W. Entitled students? Your parents should be ashamed, as should you!
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:37ammost reasonable democrATS DO NOT SUPPORT THIS GROUP. WATCHED MSNBC AND RENDELL AND OTHERS CRITICIZE THE UNION AND THE TEACHERS. IT IS NOT ATTACK ON LABOR, IT IS THERE IS NO MONEY
Report Post »streetrodder
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:42am13thgrnerationunamerican, you wrote the same thing on another post. Try to be a little more creative.
Report Post »fbanta
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:47amWhy is it that unions don‘t have their own companies but rather attempt to control someone else’s? Jobs are created by, owned by, and controlled by the company, not the employee. Public sector employees elect their management and are protected far better than private sector employees by Civil Service laws.
Since Unions have destroyed the productivity that made American industry the most competitive, driving the high-paying labor jobs elsewhere, now they are focused on the public sector where they can convert union dues to political graft and steal not only from union members, but all taxpayers. There is no justification, and should be no tolerance of public sector unions.
As for Lincoln, he was a conniving, manipulative, tyrant who violated the COTUS at every turn for his personal objectives: Ft. Sumter was a tax office, not a slave market; the people are pre-eminent in the US, not the federal government, but Lincoln changed that. Those who financially benefit from tyrannical federal government are the ones who have Lionized Lincoln despite the realities of history.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:54amDon’t doubt Rush!!!
Report Post »JJStryder
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:22amWhen labor destroys capital then you have high unemployment, debt and bankruptcy. Nice sentiment but when taken to extremes as Unions do, it leads to the economic meltdown we see today. Detroit in ruins, state budgets teetering on the brink, Union fools, urged to demonstrate against their own and the taxpayers( of which they are part) long term self interest. Workers of the world unite is a myth and a dangerous myth. Because some despot wants to lead them. Usually to their economic doom.
Report Post »rappini
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:23amIt’s the WH that is giving orders to flood Wisc with Unicoms. I still say that’s how they got Dingy Harry relected. Soetoro supports the protests because those folks are going to get him relected in 2012.
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:50amThat is very great quote 13th, work preceeds pay…in the case of Teacher Union’s it is 1 year work for 18 months pay….that is why what the Governor of WI is doing what he is doing!!!
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:12am@ 13thgenerationNonAmerican
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“A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward.
Franklin D. Roosevelt”
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Franklin D. Roosevelt was a progressive president with two perfectly good wheels that could never keep himself from rolling backwards.
-TSUNAMI 22
Report Post »uberchrist33
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:29amHere is the actual quotes, if you’re interested. They derive from http://www.infoplease.com/t/hist/state-of-the-union/73.html.
It is assumed that labor is available only in connection with capital; that nobody labors unless somebody else, owning capital, somehow by the use of it induces him to labor. This assumed, it is next considered whether it is best that capital shall hire laborers, and thus induce them to work by their own consent, or buy them and drive them to it without their consent. Having proceeded so far, it is naturally concluded that all laborers are either hired laborers or what we call slaves. And further, it is assumed that whoever is once a hired laborer is fixed in that condition for life.
Now there is no such relation between capital and labor as assumed, nor is there any such thing as a free man being fixed for life in the condition of a hired laborer. Both these assumptions are false, and all inferences from them are groundless.
Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights. Nor is it denied that there is, and probably always will be, a relation between labor and capital producing mutual benefits. The error is in assuming that the whole labor of community exists within that relation. A few men own capital, and that few avoid labor themselves, and with their capital hire or buy another few to labor for them. A large majority belong to neither class–neither work for others nor have others working for them. In most of the Southern States a majority of the whole people of all colors are neither slaves nor masters, while in the Northern a large majority are neither hirers nor hired. Men, with their families–wives, sons, and daughters–work for themselves on their farms, in their houses, and in their shops, taking the whole product to themselves, and asking no favors of capital on the one hand nor of hired laborers or slaves on the other. It is not forgotten that a considerable number of persons mingle their own labor with capital; that is, they labor with their own hands and also buy or hire others to labor for them; but this is only a mixed and not a distinct class. No principle stated is disturbed by the existence of this mixed class.
Report Post »JamesInGermany
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:06pm@13th
Clearly you need to improve your reading comprehension. As others have pointed out, Lincoln did not mean what you think he meant. Let’s see if I can make it simple for a liberal:
labor = work, job, task, etc…
In other words, labor is something that liberals are allergic to. Liberals somehow believe they have a right to the fruit (capital) of someone elses labor. They have no sense of individual responsibility. Maybe this quote from Lincoln will turn that little mercury filled “green” lightbulb on in your head and give you a better idea of his mindset:
“Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.”
Abraham Lincoln
Get the message about individual responsibility? Didn’t think so.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:40pm@THEPATRIOTDAVE
You are very sick person, I hope you get the help you clearly need. Maybe take a day or two off from watching all the Mad Max movies.
Report Post »waggie
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:42pmOMG, what were people thinking by putting this guy in office? We still have 2 years to go! OMG, OMG, OMG…
Report Post »Finished
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 6:39pmLike many other posts, this one, too, lacks context: this is a statement about the individual and the fruits of labor, not an endorsement of the superiority of labor, as in labor (plural) possessing superiority (greater importance) than capital.
The reason labor requires more consideration is because without the effort of an individual, there is no capital available to create jobs.
Points for consideration are changes in language arts and diction that affect our interpretation of the words used by prior generations.
Report Post »fatpatriot
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:13am@happystretchedthin
Report Post »Thank you for slapping down the ignorant and duplicitous 13gen. All of his/her comments are the same. Convoluted with no presentation of context. Pulling a few words out of a speech from Lincoln to make a point for his support of big labor with no context of the overall message is like saying “eat drink and be merry” gives us license to live as we please with no consequences.
TAXLORDCOMETH
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:37am1,000 people at a protest? The Cap Square McDonalds had more traffic.
Report Post »Lee Fox
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:55amHere’s the whole Lincoln quote, in context:
“It is assumed that labor is available only in connection with capital; that nobody labors unless somebody else, owning capital, somehow by the use of it, induces him to labor. This assumed, it is next considered whether it is best that capital shall hire laborers, and thus induce them to work by their consent. Having proceeded so far, it is naturally concluded that all laborers are either hired laborers or what we call slaves. Now, there is no such relation between capital and labor as here assumed
. . . . Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights”
Lincoln was not establishing some grand, socialist metaphor arguing that employers are inferior to superior laborers. He was saying, as any self-made man would, effort is what creates wealth. It is not wealth that creates effort.
So, get out there, stop whining about those that are successful, and make your own way in the world.
Report Post »wolverine
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 12:06pmIf youri idea becomws the rule there won’t be a fourteenth generation of America moron
Report Post »anthony0713
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:07am@cheezwhiz I really liked that word, libberish. Is there a Libberish to English dictionary out there? I think more people need one to understand the Liberal Media.
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