Rush Slams Romney: He ‘Is Not a Conservative’
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Just days after Mitt Romney picked up a key endorsement from Chris Christie, he is now having to deal with the fact that he’s lost the support of another prominent conservative — Rush Limbaugh.
On his radio show Thursday, Rush blasted the former Massachusetts governor by questioning his conservatism.
“Romney is not a conservative,” Rush said, “he’s not, folks. You can argue with me all day long on that, but he isn’t. What he has going for him is that he’s not Obama.”
He went on to say that Romney is a good debater and called him “a fine guy” who he likes “very much,” but cited the governor’s support of government-mandated health care and man-made global warming.
“He’s a very nice gentleman,” he said. “He is a gentleman. But he’s not a conservative.”
Rush’s comments came in response to callers and listeners who have told him he must pick a candidate to endorse.
“I’m personally not ready to settle on anybody yet.”
You can listen to his full thoughts below (the Romney part starts at the beginning):
(H/T: HuffPo)
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Leader1776
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:18amHats off to Rush. He used to be in the tank for the republicans. He is now for the country and its citizens.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:25amO agree. :)
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:26amMore people would have probably been more Conservative had it not been for this complex thing – changing children. Women were changed, and changed women raise changed daughters who won’t raise their boys to the father. Moreover, Boys are more forgiving of their mother than they are of their father. Therefore a woman can cross lines that a father can not cross, and the boys will forgive the mother. And the Father shows his wife a fine example of a father. If a father tries to impress upon his boys, the boy‘s heart will be hardened and the boy will say in his heart ’I have no father.‘ Then therefore it is the woman’s job to raise the boys to the Father because they will forgive the mother. But this truth is all screwed up in America, and the mother’s will not raise the boys to the father, and the daughters grow up to be like the mothers. Can you judge the cause of the fatherless? Therefore many men will abandon the family, because the only way a man knows how to counteract this thing is by giving their children Liberty.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:30amI need to try whatever drugs Eliasim is on, because they seem AMAZING.
They also apparently make you incoherent and rambling.
Rush got this one right. Romney is not a conservative.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:32amSo don’t ever tell me that a woman and a man are not equal, because they are more equal than you can imagine.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:36amRomney can be the RINO in chief. if he’s elected you can just picture him caving to Nancy Peelosi. and we will never get rid of BOcare.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:41amRush Slams Romney: He ‘Is Not a Conservative’ <<<<<<<< Agreed …
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:42amIf obamacare isn’t repealed health care in this country will be just like the U.K,awful.
Report Post »Obamacare alone is enough to bankrupt us and it’s also a job killer.
demint.disciple
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:44am@Eliasim… HUH ??? Never mind , you couldn’t explain it to us for a million dollars..
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:51amRush is now doing to Romney what he has been doing to liberals for years. Twisting the truth to give an impression that is not correct. I think it is funny that Rush pumps up the Heritage Foundation on his show as this great Conservative voice but fails to mention that the Heritage Foundation endorsed Romney Care! What a convienent thing to omit. He also says Romney ran to the left of Ted Kennedy in Mass. A bald faced lie. He said he would be more supportive of equal rights than Ted Kennedy…big difference. I like Rush and always have but he has damaged his credibility by twisting the truth about Romney.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:56amRush is right. But in the end, it’ll be Romney or Perry. Those will be our “choice.”
Report Post »Where are you, Jim DeMint? We need YOU!!!
CottonMPG
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:57amI don’t like Romney and never intended to vote for him, but it isn’t personal. I agree with Rush. He’s a big government guy. He may mean well and I think he does but the end is the same, bigger government!!! We need to stop growing the government, it’s already too big and bloated. It needs to go n the other direction, Romney won’t be the one to take it there.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:11amMITT’S NOT a conservative, gosh, next RUSH will be telling me that CAIN’s not either, when he does I’m going to start listening to his show.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:17amBoth Romney & Huntsman are too insecure to be conservatives. Romney won’t repeal Obamacare, only parts of it. Huntsman speaks from Obama 2008 campaign scripts.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:19amHats off to Rush for being a Flip Flopper. http://www.americanparchment.com has a clip of Rush praising Romney for being a conservative in 2008. Said he is a conservative and describes why.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:21amAnd, many who call themselves conservatives aren’t really conservatives.
That‘s why we’ll get a RINO as POTUS in 2013, and why things will never really change.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:29amRUSH IS A FLIP FLOPPER ON THIS ISSUE.
Sorry everyone Rush Limbaugh has been lying about Romney on all accounts. Demint, Heritage Foundation, and Tea Party Freshman thinks Romney is a Conservative and I agree with Demint more than Rush. Heritage Foundation put their support behind Romney and his bill. More Tea Party freshman have backed Romney than any other candidate.
Sorry, RomneyCare was conservative when he wrote it, here is what the Heritage Foundation wrote about it (they wrote the plan for Romney): http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2006/01/mitts-fit
Romney does not believe in man-made global warming, he has always stated he does not know about the science but he will not waste billions doing something about it.
Romney turned around an economy from a $3 billion dollar deficit to a $2 billion rainy day fund
Romney has always fought the EPA and wants them to go back to what was there before.
He is strong on immigration and has always been.
These are Rush’s points and he is wrong at every point.
Fox News was the one that found the clip that Rush was a flip flopper on Romney being a Conservative. At least Romney speaks highly of Rush Limbaugh: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/romney_rush_good.html
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:31amHas anyone ever really met a Romney supporter in real life? These polls that have him at 33%? No way. They don’t exist. I challenge someone to come out as part of the 33% and explain themselves.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:37amI realize that Rush is a God to most of the Blaze readers but seriously I think your guy is hitting the drugs again.
Romney’s last day as governor was Jan 2007 and Romney ran for president in 2008. Attached you will find a link to a website called rightspeak. Once you get on the site scroll down to Oct 13th and the article with John Gibson and Rush Limbaugh. There is a taped conversation on how rush praised Romney’s 3 pillars of conservatism.
If you do some google searches on the internet you will find more. I find Rush’s extreme change in thought and rhetoric disingenuous. Maybe it brings him great ratings.
http://www.rightspeak.net/
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:40amSHANEMMCC,
That is right they did turn on it because their individual mandate did not work, does not mean that it was not a experiment to be implemented in Massachusetts before ObamaCare came. They still did work to implement it in the state. Even Jim Demint and Newt Gingrich said that the bill has a conservative bill, praising it.
Here is the truth about the Heritage Foundation-Romney Individual Mandate. Their plan was very LIBERTARIAN, yes libertarian. They wrote as well as Romney wrote that the mandate should be responsibility: ‘You pay for insurance, or you pay the bill.’ Not you have to pay for insurance. Problem is their mandate was turned from that by the legislature and the Medicare Office to what it is today.
At least Romney is taking responsibility for it. 2/3 of Massachusetts wants it and anyone out side the state that wants to change that is a STATESIST. They control their own legislation, no one else.
SHANEMMCC, We have been over this time and time again and you constantly want to bring back these lies, you are just as bad as Rush Limbaugh when telling falsehoods.
And no Romney’s health care adviser did not go visit Obama about health care, he was a consultant to estimate the cost of RomneyCare, he was an economist and had no idea about health care. And it was because of his model that underestimated the cost of RomneyCare.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:32am@slr4528
So, Rush can’t change his mind?
Romney is NOT a conservative; he might be somewhat “conservative”, but not a conservative. If you think he is, you’re obviously not a conservative, either.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:53pmHow can anyone respect a man who knowingly lies and twists the truth? Is that a new conservative principle that all good conservatives are suppose to follow these days? Maybe that is why Rush doesn’t consider Romney a conservative because Romney does not lie like Rush. I use to defend Rush and I actually listened to some of his shows when traveling- but no more.
Report Post »KusoJiJi
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:18amAs usual Rush is right again.
Report Post »J Tom Wilson
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:46amLast election cycle Rush said Romney was the candidate that stood for all three legs of the conservative movement. This time Rush say Romney is no conservative.That’s a classic flip-flop if ever there was one.
PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:11amRomney the big governmnet guy?
Report Post »Wants to repeal Obamacare…check.
Wants to secure our southern border….check
Supports cut, cap and balance….check.
Wants to reform our tax code and lower taxes…..check.
Oh Rush, you are so right. This guy is a monster.
DagneyT
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:27amYou beat me to it.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:33amPG, really? Hmmm, seems what he does is screaming to loudly in my ear for me to hear what he says. Although, I did manage to hear him say something about being a supporter of the Manmade Global Warming hoax.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:41amRUSH LIMBAUGH IS A FLIP FLOPPER…
http://www.americanparchment.com has a clip of Rush Limbaugh praising Romney for being a conservative in 2008.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:44amIn Michigan… under his father, Gov Romney… they were Liberal Progressives… calling themselves Republicals. Another Dy-nasty!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:48amHOW ABOUT THE BIG ISSUES, AMERICA?
Nader, Ron Paul, Kucinich Speak to Occupy Wall Street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GaRA-Expi0
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:49am@Mad_Hatter:
Report Post »Rush is no flip-flopper. He endorsed Romney in 2008 for the same reason he’ll endorse him should he be the candidate who gets the GOP nomination. In 2008, Romney was not Obama or McCain, so by default he was the best option. Romney was not a conservative then and he’s not a conservative now.
mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:50amSHANEMMCC lying again… we have been over your lies line by line…
Increased the size of government in MA… FALSE… Romney shrunk govt in Mass, dissolved two departments and shrunk many others.
Increased taxes and fees in MA…. he did not raise taxes at all and fees are not taxes, we have been over this and you even agreed with me last time. Fees were raised because Romney stopped subsidizing departments and made them be more self sufficient. They made people pay for the services they wanted instead of the taxpayers subsidizing them.
Increased long-term debt per capita in MA by over 20%. he did not increase debt in Massachusetts, again we have been over this the only increase in spending came from the year he came in with a bill that was signed into law by his predecessor. This is according to Club for Growth and their own accounting.
Implemented a health care systems in MA which costs 10 times … FALSE CLAIM… again we have been over this, sorry it was underestimated because the liberals changed the program and add govt involvement when Romney tried to deregulate the bill. Read Heritage Foundation or the Boston Globe they will both tell you these things.
SHANEMMCC, stop lying and stop bringing up false claims we have already proven to be false. That is right you and me, we have had this same discussion.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:53amSorry ZAZZY, listen to the clip, he did not endorse him he said that he was the Conservative in the 2008 election and explain how he is ‘obviously conservative’ because of the three leg stool of Conservative model.
The clip explains everything. It’s under top stories with a picture of Rush Limbaugh.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:54amHe nailed it again!
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:55amI AGREE WITH RUSH LIMBAUGH 2008, DEMINT 2012, THE MAJORITY OF THE TEA PARTY FRESHMAN, AND THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION…
Romney is a conservative…
I don’t know what your definition of a conservative is but Rush Limbaugh 2008 laid out a great arguement that Romney is a conservative.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:57amRoth. Another Rush twist. Romeny said something like…from what I read and hear it looks like man may be contributing to global warming, how much I do not know. He then went on to say that cap and trade was a bad idea. Rush twits people’s words. Always has, always will.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:00amShane..
Report Post »Romney care was supported by 75% of the population. Check
Romney care was supported by 98% of the legislature. Check
Romney care was endorsed by the Heritage Foundation. Check
Romney care lowered government spending on health care. Check
Romney did not raise taxes. Check
Romney closed a 3 billion dollar spending gab by good fiscal management. Check
4 years ago Rush said Romney was a conservative and endorsed him….Check Mate!
PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:08amBy the way I really like Herman Cain as well buy people need to realize BHO will destroy Cain in the general. The Cain 9-9-9 plan is a huge tax cut for the rich and a massive tax increase for the poor. Obama will have people foaming at the mouth to vote against it. Look who the White House is attacking…Romney. They would love to run against Cain.
Report Post »His 9-9-9 plan would wreck the economy! How is adding 9% to the price of a new home going to help the housing industry, or how about 9% more for that new car or boat. 9-9-9 sounds great but it would be a disaster.
ITookTheRedPill
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:08amin 2008, the Republican establishment’s blitzkrieg forced McCain upon us.
And Romney sold out to them,
breaking his promise to fight all the way to the finish, quitting to make things easier for McCain, lying about the reason why he quit, and “releasing” his delegates to McCain in an unethical attempt to influence the primaries in favor of McCain.
Romney sold us out last time so that it could be his turn this time.
But resist we much!
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:18amRed pill. Romney did not sell out….HE LOST Once he lost super tuesday he had no way of winning enough delegates to get the nomination. He did the right thing by endorsing McCain and trying to help stop Obama. To keep in the race would have damaged McCain even more and would have wasted Romney’s money. It shows how smart and dedicated to the cause he not, not that he is a sell out.
Report Post »poster
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:25amRomney is a much, much slicker McCain.
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:27amRush, Thank You, Rush Thank you!!
Perry/Paul 2012
Report Post »ITookTheRedPill
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:58amPGMike,
McCain was low on public financing $, and had to wrap the nomination up quickly or he would have run out of $ and tanked.
You say, “Romney did not sell out….HE LOST Once he lost super tuesday he had no way of winning enough delegates to get the nomination.”
Well then, why did he, late on the night of Super Tuesday, make a public promise to battle “all the way to the convention”?
He should have kept his word. He should have stayed in “all the way to the convention”. He didn’t have to reach 1191 pledged delegates… all he had to do was keep McCain from reaching 1191. And I believe that with McCain out of $, Romney and Huckabee would have won the remainder of the primaries.
If neither Romney nor Huckabee reached 1191, we would have had a brokered convention. And I think that would have been a good thing. The Democrats did not wrap up their nomination until their convention, so why couldn’t we have done the same? Why did we have to wrap ours up in March? A brokered convention would have produced a more conservative nominee than McCain, or would have at least forced him to take a more conservative stand on issues, for example immigration and opposing TARP.
Romney sold us out by selling out to the behind-closed-doors “prominent Republicans” the day after he publicly promised to battle “all the way to the convention”. And the day after that, he lied about his reasons for quitting the race. It had NOTHING to do with terrorism,
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:22pmThey may be getting flack from the ignorant but they are being supported. Up here in Alaska, our Tea Parties support Romney because we read the bill, the reports from Heritage Foundation and read the local newspapers from 2006.
THAT IS WHY TEA PARTIERS SUPPORT ROMNEY… THEY READ and not just listen to Conservative Talkers, who the majority endorsed Romney in 2008 and spoke highly of him as a conservative. Much like Herman Cain… he even wrote columns endorsing Romney.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:26pmRomney thought Tarp was good, and he implied he would do it himself if necessary. Global warming sympathizer too. I think Newt is the strongest, most experienced, says it like it is, would wipe the floor with Obama in a debate, and said on the first day as President he would undo all Obama’s executive orders and issue his own executive orders to repeal Dodd/Frank, etc. etc. He really is the best man to turn America around and quickly.
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:40pm@ J TOM
In 08 Romney hadn’t yet implemented his local version of Obamacare or declared his support for the global warming hoax and the green movement. Besides the alternative in 08 was John McCain, even most democratic candidates are a bit right of McCain.
Changing your mind on something or someone when new information emerges is not flip flopping. Flip flopping is changing your mind on something because you want to jump on the bandwagon of what you think is prevailing popular opinion. If you never changed your mind on anything regardless of what information is presented about something, you would simply be a moron.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:42pmHerman Cain and Romney both had the same stance, same as Rick Perry and Gingrich as well. The option needs to be on the table but the implementation was horrible and TARP was a disaster because of how it was pushed.
Just like Romney there is not enough excitement behind him, more excitement behind Romney than Newt but less than Herman Cain. In national polls, people are very excited about Cain, less with Romney and everyone else is far behind.
All of the candidates have said they would dissolve Obama’s executive orders and repeal Dodd-Frank. Where is Newt set apart from the rest except for his brilliance and being the adult at the table. No policy that set him apart.
Report Post »BigSky
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:43pm@PGMIKE said:
“Romney the big governmnet guy?
Wants to repeal Obamacare…check.
Wants to secure our southern border….check
Supports cut, cap and balance….check.
Wants to reform our tax code and lower taxes…..check.
Oh Rush, you are so right. This guy is a monster.”
Romney is a classic flip-flopper, and you have demonstrated it.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:54pmRon Paul is the only true choice. He is our Thomas Jefferson.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:54pmSorry ROWGUE,
You are right that RomneyCare had not gone active but the bill and all its info was there and the reason why it was postponed an additional year is because the legislature and the Health Exchange board continued to add legislation. Something Romney worked to get rid of in the exchange. It was free-market based.
Romney has not changed his position on Global Warming since the 2008 election. There are plenty of YouTube videos of Romney saying the exact same thing as he is now. Look it up. His stance is the same, he doesn’t know about the science, he does believe that it is warmer today but that it has been warmer and colder. But if you continue with the clip that Rush chopped Romney continued to say he would not implement Cap and Trade because the science is not proven and it would destroy the economy.
In Rush’s flip flop audio he does not mention that he is the most conservative running but that he is a true conservative and describes why. Audio on americanparchment.com. Even Demint, Gingrich, Cain, the Heritage Foundation and the majority of the Tea Party freshmen call him a conservative.
How has Romney changed his position any more than Perry, Cain, Gingrich, or any other candidate, even Ron Paul. All have changed positions, usually because of a compromise or other reasoning. Romney came from being an independent to a Conservative, much like Rick Perry and Reagan, remember that even Reagan was pro-choice early in his career.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:57pmRUSH DID FLIP FLOP BECAUSE ROMNEY HASN’T CHANGED ANYTHING SINCE 2008, WHEN CONSERVATIVES BACKED HIM FOR PRESIDENT…
How is Romney any different than he was in 2008. Don’t give me the Global Warming bit, YouTube proves that theory wrong, he doesn‘t know about the science and wouldn’t hurt the economy or business to do something the science is 100%. He said this a few months ago and in 2008.
Report Post »crypticmitch86
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:04pm@J TOM WILSON “Last election cycle Rush said Romney was the candidate that stood for all three legs of the conservative movement. This time Rush say Romney is no conservative.That’s a classic flip-flop if ever there was one.”
In the 2008 election cycle there weren’t any conservatives.
At least this time around we’re getting a little bit closer.
Report Post »Irish Eyes Are Smiling
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:27pmI don‘t know if I should believe the ’polls’ that the liberals report on about who is in the lead for the Republican primary. They will say anything to keep the best candidate from winning the primary by convincing the conservatives to vote for the candidate they have selected. The one they feel they have the best chance of defeating. Do not trust any polls that are touted by the liberals, vote your heart, not who’s in the lead in the polls.
Report Post »markschellhaas
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:27pmSorr Tom , We and Rush just know more about Mitt Now . He was more of a conservite than John Mc Cane ,He just in the last 2 years became more vocal about so called Global warming More like “pocket filling” , and still wont admit that his health care reform is a looser. He is the same old say what you want to hear and go the way the wind blows republican. RINO !
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:30pmRush was dead on, early on, with Obama. He is right too, about Romney. Romney will continue the same charade. No one will be happy. No problems solved.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:30pmYou can add Beck & Levin to the flip floppers, too……..
Either Limbaugh is just ignorant of Romney’s words/actions (by choice or laziness) OR he, like the other talkers mentioned, are intentionally trying to manipulate listeners with their propaganda and lies/distortions. Ironic, isn’t it, since that is what they spend their talking about with the LEFT??!?!
I know Romney is not perfect, but he is heads above the others….including Obama………..to be POTUS.
Report Post »revolution-wanted
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:37pmPeople come on,in 2008 we basically had to chose between Mcain and Romney.Having said that Romney was the most conservative. When you are picking an apple out of a bucket full of bad apples you have to pick the one that is the best.Lets try and pick a non politician this time someone who owes no constituencies. Cain and Rubio 2012
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:38pmSorry, MARKSCHELLHAAS
He has not changed a position since 2008, everyone likes to say he is a flip-flopper but can’t come up with a stance he has changed that does not come from his 1994 election when he was an independent, now he is a conservative republican. Others have changed… Perry, Bachmann, Reagan.
He is actually less vocal now than he was in 2008 about Global Warming but his position is the exact same, check it out on YouTube. His stances are the same. Name some that do not span back at least 10 years ago.
Example of the truth: He was pro-choice 16 years ago due to a family death caused by illegal abortion, then he was converted around 13-14 years ago. As a governor he promised the status quo on abortion and gay marriage in order to be elected, he even said that was the reason, he was public about that stance. That status quo kept Mass. from going more pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage, as much as governor can stop it. He used his veto pen 800 + times. Since his conversion he has worked with pro-life groups including the Susan B. Anthony group who made the pro-life pledge.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:38pmRomney is nothing but the republican version of obahitlerstalinmao. He is not a true republican, his policies have proven that. Anyone who is a conservative or a true republican should not vote for this liar. He is obama in disguise.
Report Post »TPjr
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:42pmsure he is, but we need to stay focused and elect anyone but Obama. ALL of the republican candidates are better than what we have now.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:44pmEstablishment
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A2EqhZND1_I
mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:54pmSHANEMMCC,
Again you skew my words, I did not say the majority of Tea Partiers support Romney, that would be a lie, everyone knows that. The problem is that people would rather take the words of RUSH2.0 or RUSH2011 than read the bill or read reports by the group that designed RomneyCare. It isn’t their fault, conservative talkers have decided to attack Romney, not all be many. People like Sean Hannity and other have said they could vote for him happily though they make no endorsements.
I did say that Tea Partiers support Romney, not majority, not unanimously, but many of them do. People like you, FreedomWorks, ex-candidates like Joe Miller (who I have worked for), and some conservative talkers, and the liberal media have skewed his history and that does play a toll on Tea Partiers opinions. And yes the majority of the Tea Party freshmen have endorsed Romney, the rest have stayed fairly silent. Waiting…
Do not lie about me as well.
PS – No those that supported TARP supported it because it was an option on the table that expert claimed would make the difference. Even Glenn Beck agreed with it for a while. They all came back to condemn it when they found out how it would be implemented. That may be one thing I agree with Ron Paul about, but Santorum and Bachmann were just as opposed to it and two cheers for them.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:58pmSo what everyone seems to be saying is that Rush had to call Romney a conservative and describe him as a good conservative because it was either him or McCain and we all know Huckabee was worse than them both. Sorry, memories fade. The conservative talkers were putting most of their strength behind Romney because he is a ‘true conservative’ as per the three legs of conservativism.
MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN PERRY
Report Post »AS MUCH AS CAIN, WHO SUPPORTED HIM
AND YET LESS THAN SANTORUM OR BACHMANN
PAUL ISN’T CONSERVATIVE AT ALL, ALL LIBERTARIAN, MINUS ABORTIONS.
PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:58pmBigSky. I realize that I can be a bit slow sometimes but how in the heck do you take my comments as proving Romney is a flip-flopper? I believe Romney does what every good leader does. When conditions on the ground change he adjusts. You should not change core principles but implementation.
Report Post »He did change on abortion, I will give you that but so did Reagan and many other prominent Rebubs over the years.
mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:59pmDoesn’t matter how many times you tell a lie, it is still a lie.
The truth is Romney is a conservative, just not as much as you want him to be and it is sad that his record has been skewed by ignorance. Though most of the blame goes to the media.
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:01pmI will never vote for the RINO Romney. If you like RomnObamaCare then you are going to love Romney. If Romney is the Republican candidate, then I will vote third party or not at all. Romney is just more of the same… as in Obama. I cannot understand how any Conservative could be so STUPID that they would vote for this POS. Stupidity is usually reserved for Obama supporters.. AKA Demoncraps.
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:04pmRush is wrong again…. what an idiot.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos
Report Post »ashtongramp
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:08pmThat is true, I remember Rush saying that Romney was the candidate that stood for all three legs of the conservative movement too. That makes me sad to know that. Rush flip flops too.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:23pmRed dog.
Report Post »You go ahead and vote 3rd party. You gaurantee another 4 years of BHO and the country as you know it is finished. Rush would tell you the same thing. Romney may not be perfect but he is far from the raging liberal Rush seems to be painting his as. Remeber, Rush Limbaugh twists people’s words to fit his purpose. Why would Rush endorse him 4 years ago and now he hates him? If he was more conservative than McCain or Huckabee how can he now be so liberal. Rush is flip-flopping and twisting all over the place here.
Clive
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:44pmRush may be right, but it doesn’t matter. Mittens is going to be the nominee. And as much as you may not like him, you will vote for him over obama in a heartbeat. Just a bad year for the GOP, nobody really looks all that great.
Remember how bush really had to court evangelicals to win the presidency? Well, I have a hard time believing the will come out huge to support a mormon.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:45pm@ROWGUE
You do know that ROMNEY was not governor in 2008. Romney signed Romneycare in April 2006 and Romney left in January 2007…so how could Romney be responsible for changes that took place in 2008. Romney fought the costly amendments in 2006 but the legislature over rode his vetos.
This is an experience that Cain has never experienced since Cain has never governed anything. Cain is a complete unknown when it comes to how he will govern and that makes me very nervous.
Report Post »potvin
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:57pmBut he’s electable! Are any of the others? There is no pure conservative candidate that is electable!
Report Post »marvel
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:04pm@SHANEMMCC
You are actually quite wrong in your assertion that “You can be a conservative without holding the title of libertarian, but you cannot be libertarian without being conservative.” This demonstrates your ignorance on the subject. But you are not alone, many religious or social conservatives think that all libertarians are necessarily conservative.
The Libertarian Party explains on their website that “Libertarians are neither. Unlike liberals or conservatives, Libertarians advocate a high degree of both personal and economic liberty. For example, Libertarians advocate freedom in economic matters, so we’re in favor of lowering taxes, slashing bureaucratic regulation of business, and charitable — rather than government — welfare. But Libertarians are also socially tolerant. We won’t demand laws or restrictions on other people who we may not agree because of personal actions or lifestyles.” (See http://www.lp.org/faq).
Social Conservatives who seek to impose their moral standards on everyone by legislation, for example, are in opposition to Libertarian principles. Libertarians seek a nation where people are free to live their lives as they please with limited government involvement. Libertarians are not necessarily concerned about imposing “Christian values” on others. The only thing Libertarians are consistently conservative about is our Nations founding ideals and Constitution, which we believe should be very cautiously change if changed at al
Report Post »TeaPartyDragon
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:14pmRomney a career politician…Check
Report Post »Not getting my Vote! … Check
Cain is getting my vote…Check
marvel
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:32pm@SHANEMMCC
Actually, no. You can personally be a Liberal, or a Conservative and still be politically a Libertarian. Conservative has not changed in meaning. For example, I am a social conservative in my own personal life, trying to teach my children traditional family values, and to respect life. I warn them about being blown about aimlessly and about embracing doctrines and behaviors that threaten those values. I want to preserve the rights outlined in the Constitution, which are inalienable rights, and to teach my children the same. However, politically, I want to allow others to raise their children any way that they want or to behave any way that they want, as long as those behaviors do not infringe upon my rights. A person who wants the liberty to sleep with whomever he wants and to smoke whatever he wants can also be a Libertarian, though he is clearly a liberal.
Libertarian does not mean Conservative. It means minimum necessary regulation, and maximum liberty. Liberty which should even be available to those who see things differently. In case you are still confused, check this out.
http://www.lp.org/blogs/brad-ploeger/the-gay-agenda
A lot of people are identifying themselves with Libertarians these days, but I don’t think they really mean it. :)
Report Post »Squ33
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:38pmAgreed. When I heard earlier this year that Romney supported CO2 Cap and Trade, that was it for me. Romney is part of the establishment!
Report Post »marvel
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:40pm@TEAPARTYDRAGON
You said, “Romney a career politician…Check”. Do you even think about the words you type? Romney is a career “Capitalist”, and has only held office once as governor of Massachusetts, during which time he did not accept pay. So, you tell me, how is he a “Career Politician”?
Romney is a successful private sector businessman and leader. He is dependable, honorable, honest, and good looking too. He has been true to his marriage and his faith his entire life. Romney is exactly the kind of president we need, and who can beat Obama.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:44pm@Madd Hatter
Here are Romney’s 9 flip flops. I posted his exact quotes of for and against on each in the last post proving he did flip flop on all 9. Do I need to post them again for you to be a honorable person and admit Romney is a fake scam artist? I hope you find the integrity to say Romney changes positions like the sun throughout the day.
-For cap n trade, now against it
Report Post »-Pro Choice, now Pro Life
-Romneycare, now obamacare is wrong
-For Auto Bailouts, then against it
-For campaign spending limits, now against it
-For Tarp and now against it
-Against Captial gains tax cut, now for them
-For stem cell research and now against it
-For Amnesty, now against it.
chicago76
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:51pmRomney is the chosen, like Obama, like George Bush. He is not conservative or liberal. He is the chosen. If the conservatives do not rally behind one person, he will get the nominated.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:08pmSHANEMMCC,
So you want the proof of that again sure. There are plenty. Market Decisions, a research and consulting group, says that 84% say keep the health care law. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/11/us-massachusetts-health-idUSTRE72A03620110311
Now you make it sound like Romney likes the bill. No he too has attacked it that the dems have destroyed it and that he would change much of it. In a Politifact Poll only 11% wanted to repeal it, most wanted to fix it. As does Romney. He has already said he doesn’t like the mandate but that was the only way to make the freeloaders pay their bills.
Can you come up with a better plan. Savings accounts are great ideas but won‘t make anyone buy that isn’t buying into it anymore and if that account doesn’t pay for their health, they automatically go back to the govt paying their bill. Ultimately if we find a way so that people have to pay their own bill I am all for it, right now we only have options to make it more accessible. It is the federal govt that mandates that everyone is taken care of.
Plus you lied it doesn’t increase the cost by 10 times, and any cost was not due to Romney. It raised cost by 1% of the Mass budget, money that would not bankrupt the state and is because of the added legislation placed on it.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:18pmOKIE I proved these wrong in the last article… stop recycling lies
For cap n trade, now against it – he was for the regional carbon limits as a concept by a few months after it was published he said no and removed his support because they were going to hurt business and it was an over reach, that is why he was against the overreach of the EPA.
-Pro Choice, now Pro Life – Yes he grew up in a house that had family that died from an illegal abortion. That was 16-17 years ago, he converted to pro-life 13-14 years ago. As a governor he promised to stay status quo on the issue to get elected and was very public about that. But it was because of that Mass. was not able to go further left on those issues. He used his veto pen 800+ times and many of those was over gay marriage and abortion laws. Once his veto was overturned for the morning after pill so he wrote a law protecting faith based hospitals. Since his conversion he has been working with pro-life groups such as the Susan B. Anthony group.
-Romneycare, now obamacare is wrong – Romney care was based off free-market conservative principles. Read Heritage Foundations stance on it when it was signed: http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2006/01/mitts-fit. Once again, it was destroyed by a 85% liberal legislature and they even overturned the 7 sections he vetoed in the bill, then postponed the exchange by 1-2 years because they were adding more rules.
Report Post »cont..
Applehead
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:27pmRon Paul has been saying the same message for 20 years! If you want Bush again, then vote for Perry, Romney or Cain! The Fed and Neocon Zionism has been sucking our country dry for years and if you elect one of these guys the problem won’t get fixed! Zionist Fox will push these guys all day long! We know Marxist are our enemy but you need to realize that Fox is the hidden more under the radar enemy too! They have indoctrinated conservatives into Neocon Zionism bc like Goebbels, if you repeat something long enough it will be excepted as truth! Do you think that the Jewish controlled radio stations or Fox will allow a Non Neocon Zionist conservative to be on the airwaves??? Wake up America and see the real reality not the reality that Neocon Zionists conservative mass media wants you too see! Our fellow Jewish Americans are more than happy to use all our countries resources for Israel! We need to see that some Americans first loyality is to Israel not America!
Report Post »toto
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:30pmRomney keeps saying he wants to “replace” Obamacare. With what Romney o Romney with what?
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:31pmThey even took his catastrophic care portion of the bill and added dozens of rules and provisions to it skyrocketing the costs.
-For Auto Bailouts, then against it – Again he was not for the Auto Bailout, he was always for them going through bankruptcy. That is why the White House attacked him when he said he was right. And he was…
-For campaign spending limits, now against it – Now as I said last time, this one is right. He did change his view on campaign spending… you have one flip flop. Good job. That was in 1994, 16+ years ago before he changed from a independent to a Republican. Are you condemning Perry and Reagan for doing the same thing. It means a change of heart.
-For Tarp and now against it – Yes, just like Cain, Perry, Gingrich, and Glenn Beck, they were for it because the experts said it was needed, both Democrats and Republican experts agreed. Then they found out how it was implemented and that is when they started to attack it as a bad policy. Weren’t you listening to Cain in the last debate, he said just that.
-Against Captial gains tax cut, now for them. That was something he believe in 1994. That was when he was an independent. A lot has changed, you seem to think moderates/democrats that become conservatives don’t change their way of thinking when they move… Look at Perry and Reagan. They did the same think from Democrat to Republican and money of their views changed as well. That was over 16 years ago.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:41pm@Madd Hatter
You are full of bull and that is sad. It is truthful he flipped flopped on all 9 in his own words.
You are trying to justify a man that has zero principle and then say he should be President. I will repost Romney‘s own words and then you come back and tell me again I’m “recycling lies”.
If you want to support someone who flip flops like John Kerry or Arlen Spector, your choice. Just be honest about the fact Romney flips flops for votes and has zero principle. Denying it makes you a liar with an agenda. You are better then that.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:41pmcont…
-CLAIM: For stem cell research and now against it – TRUTH: He did, and in 2004 he changed his position after talking to a professor at Harvard about the process and has been against it ever since. He was educated on it and changed his mind. Do you want to question his resolve… his wife has MS, the doctors say she could be cured with stem cell injections. They have both said no, they do not believe in that any more. He would not cure his wife because he believe stem cells were wrong. That is conviction after a conversion.
-CLAIM: For Amnesty, now against it. – TRUTH: Critics falsely charge that Mitt Romney supported McCain-Kennedy in 2005 and as Governor instituted sanctuary cities. The reality: sanctuary status was instituted on a city level outside Romney’s purview. With a liberal legislature, no bill outlawing sanctuary cities would have passed. Romney did not endorse McCain’s bill in 2005; in an interview with the Boston Globe he explicitly refused to endorse it (11). Romney did say in the same interview that the bill was “reasonable,” but the 2007 bill is very different from the 2005 bill; the provisions Romney most strongly objects to, like the z-visa (12), were not in the 2005 bill. Accordingly, his position did not change when he opposed the 2007 bill, but the bill itself had changed.
He has said he wants path to citizenship for illegals but not amnesty. There is a difference. Remember he vetoed instate tuition for illegals and amnesty as governo
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:46pmTOTO,
He is the only one out there with a health care bill. He has something to replace it. This plan is praised by conservatives everywhere. Here is a list of all of his policies he promises to implement: http://www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care. Where is everyone elses plan. And don’t give me he has been campaigning for 6 years, are his competitors going to make excuses when they are in the presidency? No, they need to get their plan out. Rick Perry came out with a great energy plan today, we need things like that: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/perry_energy_plan.html
Report Post »Spirit 72
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:47pmSome Romney positions are worse than Obama’s:
1. Pro Choice
2. “Not trying to return to Reagan – Bush era.”
3. Companies and Government to report incomes by race (keep the race card alive)
4. Military withdrawals from Iraq and Afghanistan need published timetables
5. Global Warming is a certainty with us contributing to greenhouse gasses
6. Pro Stimulus Spending
7. Pro TARP Bailouts
8. Anti 2nd Amendment, supports Brady Bill, and tough gun laws (worse than Obama so far)
9. Illegals should be able to attain residency or citizenship (more vocal than Obama on this one, too)
10. Pro Big Government healthcare. (Massachusetts healthcare is 50% funded by US taxpayer money)
If you like those sort of things, vote with the rest of the herd being lied to by the media and Republican Establishment. No wonder the media is pro Romney!
Doubt me? See Romney say it all here:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU#!
mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:53pmOKIE,
What the heck are you talking about, his own words. There were no quotes at all on there. They were your platitudes and rhetoric. Give me the quotes and the dates they were said. Then we can have an intelligent conversation. You can’t just say I am full of bull without backing it up or saying what Romney says without quotes and say it is true, if anyone is full of bull it is the person that can’t back up his words and that is you.
You still have not proven that he is a flip-flopper. And if he becomes the candidate and you don’t vote for him, you are to blame for another 4 years of Obama, a 4 years that he will not hold back when it comes to his executive pen. The left thinks he is pandering to our side, if he is elected again there will be no question he is on the side of the left and will destroy our country. So do some better research.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:57pmSPIRIT 72,
Most of those clips are from 1994 when he was an independent or misquotes (clipped videos). Are you saying people can’t change their hearts over a 16 year span of time. Then you are condemning Perry as well as Reagan. I stand by Reagan’s conversion. They said the same things about him back then, luckily he won and proved himself. Romney has written power almost everything he is going to do. that is why Demint endorsed him last time and is considering backing him this time. Some with so many strong conservatives.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:00pmSPIRIT72,
Didn’t you know that all states are funded by the Federal Govt. Many are over 50% paid for by Federal funds including Texas. Ron Paul and Rick Perry’s state.
RomneyCare as it was written was pro-freemarket and based on conservative principles. Prove me wrong. Note: Individual mandates were backed by Heritage, Gingrich, Demint, and… RUSH LIMBAUGH. It was later on they found out they didn’t work due to liberal intervention.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:09pm@Madd Hatter
Cap n Trade
Now against:
“In the guise of addressing climate change, President Obama has asked Congress to pass a cap and trade program that will have a devastating impact on hard-working American families and on our economy as a whole. The House has already passed a version of this legislation, and just last week, Senators Barbara Boxer and John Kerry answered the President’s call by introducing a cap and trade bill in the Senate.
We need to act now before it is too late and stop this legislation.”
[Romney's Free & Strong America PAC email, 10/7/09]
Before:
2005: Romney Endorsed Cap-And-Trade, Saying “We Can Effectively Create Incentives To Help Stimulate A Sector Of The Economy And At The Same Time Not Kill Jobs. … I’m Convinced It Is Good Business.”
Flip flopped on Pro Choice/Pro Life as you said
Flip flop # 2
Flipped Flopped on universal healthcare. Mandated healthcare. Can States force commerce? Debatable..
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:11pmAuto Bailouts
For:
During the 2008 election, when he was campaigning for the Republican nomination for president in Michigan, he was all about getting federal help for the Big Three:
“The question is, where is Washington?” Mr. Romney said, speaking to a gaggle of reporters across from a General Motors transmission plant near Ypsilanti, where 200 layoffs were announced this week. “Where does it stop? Is there a point at which someone says ‘enough’? Or are we going to allow the entire domestic automotive manufacturing industry to disappear?”
Against:
Report Post »Asked about Obama’s role in the managed bankruptcy of General Motors Corp. and Chrysler Corp., Romney said he would not have “sent $10 billion-plus to the industry prior to working out a managed bankruptcy. I think had the companies pursued that course, with the help of the government, of course, that they would have been in a far better position to protect their shareholders and their bondholders than they were having accepted federal funds.”
Flip flop #4
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:13pmTarp
For
‘The TARP program… was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures.’
Against
‘When government is… bailing out banks… we have every good reason to be alarmed.’
capital gains
For
Romney Supports Tax Cut He Once Mocked as Cut for Fat Cats. In 1996, Mitt Romney ran ads against Steve Forbes’ flat tax plan, saying he “will not support a specific proposal unless it taxes investment income.” Romney’s ads asserted that the Forbes plan to eliminate taxes on dividends, interest and investment profit and institute a 17% tax on wages that would result in huge tax cuts for the “Kennedys, Rockefellers, and Forbes.” The ad said, “It’s a tax cut for fat cats.”
Against:
Report Post »‘I believe the tax on capital gains should be zero.’
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:15pmStem cell
For
“I am in favor of stem cell research. I will work and fight for stem cell research,” [Romney] said, adding, “I’d be happy to talk to [President Bush] about this, though I don’t know if I could budge him an inch.”
Against
‘In the end, I became persuaded that the stem-cell debate was grounded in a false premise.’
Amnesty
Report Post »For
‘Those… paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process toward application for citizenship.’
Against
‘Amnesty only led to more people coming into the country.’
bolsen00
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:20pmRush has successfully fractured the republican party! Good job rush!
Report Post »JetAnders
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:25pmPresident Reagan wasn’t conservative when he was Governor. Mitt Romney isn’t Reagan yet. but he will be in the White house. He can win and he can lead.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:41pmNHwinter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:26pm
Romney thought Tarp was good, and he implied he would do it himself if necessary. Global warming sympathizer too. I think Newt is the strongest, most experienced, says it like it is, would wipe the floor with Obama in a debate, and said on the first day as President he would undo all Obama’s executive orders and issue his own executive orders to repeal Dodd/Frank, etc. etc. He really is the best man to turn America around and quickly.
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+5
glassbeadlady
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 7:03pmHe is right, at the GOP state caucus last year where we got rid of Senator Bob Bennett, Mitt introduced him and was booed off the stage, this is Utah land of Mormons and he was booed off the stage. Need we say more, he will say it his beliefs, but, this is Utah…..
Report Post »slvrserfr
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:27pmI‘m glad I’m not the only one that realizes this RINO moderate faker trying to act like a conservative. He’s already said that he would repeal Obamacare but replace it with something else. Considering he already established Romneycare as the basis for Obamacare – he’s less likely to actually repeal it. He’s been notorious in flip flopping his ideas – being for things and then against them as Perry has expressed in debates. Even Perry has been liberal leaning – being weak on border security, offering education entitlements to children of illegals (DREAM Act supporter) AND has taken money from Obama stimulus. Cain is the true conservative. Obama is trying to deceive voters into thinking they don’t like Romney in a shameless effort to get another RINO to continue the status quo in Washington.
Report Post »Lgbpop
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:45pmYes, he is. For those pinheads who think he’s flip-flopping, all he’s doing is reporting on the Romney of the moment. Four years ago, Governor Weathervane was a conservative. Now, he‘s a Charlie Crist wannabe who’s changed his tune with an utterly straight face and is daring us to remember and reconcile the two. Rrush is just being observant.
Perhaps more people should do likewise.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:53pmAll BLATHER Rushbo
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:31pm“Romney is not a conservative,”
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Do any of you remember the old Rush Bumper-Stickers that simply said… “Rush Is Right”?
We need to start re-priniting them in large quantities.
Darren
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:35pmJ Tom wilson;
“Last election cycle Rush said Romney was the candidate that stood for all three legs of the conservative movement. This time Rush say Romney is no conservative.That’s a classic flip-flop if ever there was one.”
That’s exactly what I think. I do recall Rush’s explicit support for Romney in 2008. In fact, Rush seemd to get adamant about supporting Romney as McCain kept edging towards the nomination. If anything, Romney’s more conservative now than in 2008. Like all the rest of the candidates, he is staunchly advocating smaller government. While I do not like everything about Romney, and even have concerns about him 9like Rush I would really like for Romney to take a firm position to significantly shrink EPA regulations) I think overall he’ll be a fine President of the United States. Overall he’ll govern conservatively.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:53pmmad_hatter
Report Post »Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:41am
RUSH LIMBAUGH IS A FLIP FLOPPER…
http://www.americanparchment.com has a clip of Rush Limbaugh praising Romney for being a conservative in 2008.
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How well I remember that statement by Rush. I remember it because he caught a lot of heat for saying it, from Conservatives. People were calling in and running down a list of items as to why they didn’t think Romney was a Conservative and after a few days of being called out on it Rush relented and said that his audience had proven him wrong. Even Rush is allowed to be wrong once a year.
thepatriotdave
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:58pmVechorik
Report Post »Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:48am
HOW ABOUT THE BIG ISSUES, AMERICA?
Nader, Ron Paul, Kucinich Speak to Occupy Wall Street
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Morons on parade are not something I would ever be interested in. Move along folks nothing here but some smelly hippies that want everything GIVEN to them. I have a middle finger I would like to give them!
edmundburk
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 3:42amWas for aborotion before he was against-check,Was for gay marraige before he was against it-check,
Report Post »Was for global warming just like Obama-check. this is Romny to the core. why don’t you establisment
RINO’s take your selves over to the HOFPO to celibrate another progressive in conservitive clothes!
Buck Shane
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:45am@ mad_hatter
Report Post »You talk like you are on Mr. Romney’s staff – but whatever, you are not impartial. My impression of Mr Romney is that he is a politician who is for whatever will get him elected. Romneycare alone makes him not conservative and not Tea Party.
Pujols
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:54amRush is right. Mitt was better than McCain and that’s it.
Report Post »But,
ANYONE IS BETTER THAN OBAMA!
mad_hatter
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 11:09amOKIE, You forgot the key point of that exercise, Romney said most of those things when he was an independent moderate back in 1994 or you stretched his words. Please post the dates of those quotes.
You can have the opinion that Romney is not a conservative, much like Rush does in 2011 but not in 2009, but that is your opinion and not the truth.
RomneyCare as it was written shows that Romney is a Free-Market, Smaller Govt Conservative… no question: ( http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2006/01/mitts-fit )
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 11:12amThe press can say that there is no excitement for Romney but the last enthusiasm poll showed Cain as number 1 with excitement and Romney as number 2, as you can see from all the people supporting him in this blog post, in a ultra-conservative site.
ROMNEY/CAIN 2012 or CAIN/ROMNEY 2012
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 12:14pm@ mad_hatter
Report Post »***Sophistry Alert***
mad_hatter calls people’s facts, opinions, and his opinions, facts.
Mr. Romney has never been a conservative. He is not Tea Party.
He could, if he chose to, do a contract with conservatives. He could swear in writing, that he will resign if he does not: 1. Close the border, 2. Support the 2nd Amendment, 3. Repeal Obamacare, 4. Get cut, cap, and balance through congress, and 5. Allow no amnesty.
Whatever he has been in the past, we want the problems solved. If he swears in writing to do the things that need to be done, we can live with him.
If he can’t do that, he is a pretender.
sgtstubbs
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 3:18pmLook up this voting record, seems a bit Leftwing to me , but I am from the South so who knows.l It bothers me also that Cain made the statement that low econ areas might have a different tax rate like Detriot, a 333 might work inthese area….Not a good stattement,,,sounds kinda liberial.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 3:37pmMadd Hatter
I think you know better then that and are simply trying to deceive folks. Again, if you are a honest person then be honest Romney has flip flopped at least 9 times.
I can provide the dates from when Romeny said all those above and it wasn‘t from ’94 especially since the auto bailouts occurred in ‘08-’09.
You only hurt your own cause by coming on here telling us the sky is green when we all can look up and see it is blue. Learn to be honest to yourself first and then to others. Romney is a political flip flopper. That is truth. Have a great day.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 4:35pm“But he’s not a conservative.”
Yep… romney is just another liberal “ringer’ pretending to be Conservative…
He supports al gore’s fake “global warming” scheme…
He supports obamacare, and will never try to repeal it…
He is a staunch gun control supporter, has voted for several gun control laws, including the Brady Act…
romney isn’t who he says he is…
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 4:36pm@ Okie from Muskogee
Report Post »You got ‘em. Good job!
If he was not here anonymously, or if he had any pride, he would not be back, but its easy to be a mad_hatter when no one knows who you are.
WeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:42am“Rush Slams Romney: He ‘Is Not a Conservative’ ”
But of course you knew that …
Report Post »… didn’t you?
dogpatch65
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:53amLet’s just be honest: Rush may not have known all the details of Romneycare in 2008. By now, we know them. Here’s the one that is completely inexcusable:
The mandate.
That is a tyrannical idea. Period. Please don’t bother to annoy me with this baloney about car insurance mandates. THE ONLY car insurance any state mandates is LIABILITY to cover damage you MIGHT DO to OTHERS. Health Insurance Mandates as exemplified by Romneycare are the equivalent to a government-mandated Collission, Comprehensive, and Liability plan.
Sorry, that’s a recipe for disaster. And it’s a statist idea. And it’s decidedly un-conservative.
Try to peddle Romney as a conservative if you like, but you’re kidding yourself. You’re NOT fooling me.
Report Post »mickey1946
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:51amRomney is Obama lite. He shares the same agenda as Obama Big Government under the United Nation control.
Report Post »hi
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:17amI agree with Rush.
Report Post »schmite123oh
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:54amNo to Romney Folks, No to the Big 3 No to Romney, Perry and Bachman, that leaves Cain or Paul.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:13amCain and Paul sound great on paper but they have no chance against Obama. Cain has not been vetted.
Report Post »Is he pro-lfie or pro-choice?
What is his stance on the middle east and Israel?
What skeletons are in his personal or business closet?
Did he smoke pot or do drugs in college?
Has he been faithful to his wife?
Did he draft dodge?
Right now he is a blank canvas and most people are painting him as what they want not reality.
The Obama machine will dig up everything and then some. Just wait.
poster
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:27amIf the MSM likes a guy, I’m heading the other way. MSM likes Romney.
Report Post »BalancedInteger
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:47am@ PGMike: I listened to Herman Cain’s talk show in Atlanta many years ago. Here are the answers to your questions:
Is he pro-lfie or pro-choice? He is pro-life, and a devout man of the gospel. In fact, he is a gospel singer at his church.
What is his stance on the middle east and Israel? Cain stood with Glen Beck during the “Standing for Courage” rally in Israel. And I mean literally – With Beck, In Israel.
What skeletons are in his personal or business closet? Good luck finding any. You’re talking about a good and decent man…the first one we’ll have had in the White House since Bush 41.
Did he smoke pot or do drugs in college? Absolutely not.
Has he been faithful to his wife? I would be shocked if this were not the case.
Did he draft dodge? No. He served as a civilian contractor to the U.S. Navy as an engineer, specializing in ballistics analysis for cruise missles.
Feel better now? Cain is the real deal, and all true-blue conservatives should line up behind him for the primaries and donate whatever they can afford to his campaign.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:42pm@PGMIKE Paul has huge advantage over Obama, stop the wars and militarism, where Cain while exposed will be toast. Just look what is going on on wall st. How difficult will be for DNC to connect Cain with bankers, specially his past with FED.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:50pmBalance..Thanks for the vetting of Cain. I do not know much about him. I still stand my remarks and no one here has refuted them about 9-9-9. Once the average Joe understands that this means a huge tax increase for them and a huge tax break for the wealthy he will fall like a brick. Obama will crush Cain on this issue. When your signature issue as a challenger is demonstrably faulty you are in big trouble. Cain may very well be a fine and decent person but 9-9-9 is a nice sounding pipe-dream. Never gonna happen. Never.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:53pmRead Pauls “Issues” section on his site… Paul is a good, honest, man…
I‘m not saying Cain isn’t a “good man”, but… Paul has been for the same things, liberty, freedom, lower taxes, smaller government, etc… for 30+ years.
I am starting to think people don’t really want freedom or liberty, which is techincally together called “responsibility”… no one wants to be responsibile for anything anymore… it’s pathetic.
Report Post »bpitas
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:29pmCain isn’t ready for prime time, but Ron Paul is by far the most conservative candidate in the race by far.
http://voteview.com/Is_John_Kerry_A_Liberal.htm
Report Post »Look at very bottom of list – higher score in right-most column = more conservative.
Sorry about the name in the link (John Kerry) but the data is pre-formatted and it was easier to post this link then to download the data to excel, sort it ,and cut/paste it, but you can get the data yourself if you don’t want to use the example above.
ares338
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:16amI would rather have Cain than Romney. My personal choice. The reality is, Obama needs to leave no matter runs against him. All of these protests are smoke and mirrors folks. Stay focused!
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:18amI like Herman Caid as well but his 9-9-9 plan is a huge tax increase on most of the country. I am a small business owner so I would absolutely love the big tax break this plan would give me but once the middle class and working class figure out that their tax bill will go up with 9-9-9 the bloom will fall off the rose. The sad truth is that almost half of Americans pay no federal inomce tax, they pay FICA and sales tax but no federal income tax. Cain’s 9-9-9 plan would be a massive tax increase on the poor and a massive tax break for the rich. Is it fair? Maybe. Does it have a snow balls chance of every passing…no way!
Report Post »BelievinginAmerica
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:42amI agree with Rush and like Herman Cain in this bunch. Conservatives don’t see color! I would rather OTJ Herman Cain, than be imprisioned by Obama 4 more years (never voted 4 him in the first place). I also believe that with some understanding from We The People, Herman Cain will understand that his 999 process will not work as it will increase the middle class and the poor. I can deal with fighting Herman Cain on that one issue, than fighting Obama and his 1000 Czars on Socialism. I’ll even go broke for 4 years to get Obama OUT OF THERE!
If we as Conservatives and Independants don’t pull together and get ABO (anbody but Obama) in the White House, we are all screwed!!
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:45amWhat is Cain’s foreign policy plan 999. How will Cain reduce Healthcare costs? 999. What will cain do when terrorists attack? shout 999. How will Cain handle trade relations with China?999.
Will 999 ever pass Congress? No way.
So Cain is running on a plan that will never pass Congress-wow that makes alot of sense.
I love it when people say that he will have Gingrich as a V.P. to show him what to do-Duh-People should then just vote for Gingrich.
I am sorry but I am repulsed by Obama 1.0 whose slogan was hope and change and now you guys are pushing marketing man number 2. Herman Cain 999-No thank you. I will pass on Obama 2.0.
Report Post »OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:31pmIt’s really disheartening that even conservatives are starting to fall for all this criticism of 9-9-9, believing that it would end up costing lower income folks more. Herman Cain is right to call the overly-simplistic analysis “incorrect.”
The two biggest forms of federal tax that lower incomes pay are payroll withholdings and embedded tax cost in the goods and services they purchase. Businesses take the cost of their tax burdens, which is just part of the cost of doing business after all, and pass it on in the price of their product. Conceptually, there is no such thing as taxing business because it always ends up being a tax on the consumer in the end.
Taxing businesses hit low income consumers very hard, because it gets passed on to them in the form of increased prices for everything they buy.
The fellow just above criticizing 9-9-9 mentioned that he would love the huge tax break for his small business. So will your competitors! As such, both you and your competitors will be forced by the market to pass your savings on the consumer – as will your own suppliers be forced to pass their savings on to you, and their suppliers to them.
Effectively, the 9% sales tax component merely replaces the reduction in embedded taxes in the final retail price of goods and services. In general, retail goods and services WILL NOT COST MORE, EVEN WITH THE SALES TAX! The 9-9-9 plan is retail price neutral on the whole, which makes sense when you consider that it is reven
Report Post »OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:33pmSo for low income folks, replacing payroll withholdings with a flat 9% on income is a gain for their pocket book. The 9% sales tax is a “no change” on the prices of goods and services, so it is neutral. They will have the same or more spending power out of their income compared to what they have now.
Then after all that, consider what happens with those same folks when they are suddenly living in a booming economy where businesses are investing in domestic operations to stay competitive instead of foreign operations to stay competitive and they are having to compete for employees instead of laying them off or staying stagnant. 9-9-9 will be a boon for low income folks because even after costing them no extra or less, it will lead to a stronger economy that better values their services with better paying jobs.
Report Post »dc135custom
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:38pmHey PG I’m pretty sure I fit into the middle class category and I pay somewhere around 16% income tax so 9% would be a huge break for me. As far as the ones who don’t pay any taxes now getting a huge increase from this I can’t say it bothers me that much, I happen to know someone in that group that worked only three months total last year and got an $8000 tax return. There’s no way they paid that much into the system so the extra money they got was form every other tax payer that didn’t get a return and what’s worse is him and his wife pissed it all away and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
Report Post »resme
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:29pmCompanies will not lower food prices or anything, When they know you will pay for it. The federal reserve already gives us a hidden inflation tax. Go ahead all the bankers want a vat/sales tax. Playing right into the federal reserves pocket.
Report Post »matt1776
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:59pmPGMIKE, are you a democrat plant? You are the most uneducated “conservative” poster I have ever seen. You post in every thread bashing 9/9/9 without even understanding how the plan works. Your idiocy is astounding and I can only assume you are paid for by the DNC to bash CAIN every chance you get.
Report Post »OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:11pm@RESME – “Companies will not lower food prices or anything, When they know you will pay for it.”
That’s not true at all. People will pay virtually anything for food because they have to. The only thing that keeps prices down is competition. Food is one of the industries where prices are the most tightly tied to cost that there is. If costs go down, prices go down, and we see it in the price volatility of several grocery store items. When cattle starts getting sold off to pay for feed costs, we see steak going on sale at the store…it happens all the time.
You’re right about inflation adding to prices, though – and tax plans won’t directly fix that. We need sound money policies for that. A plan like 9-9-9 or the FairTax would be able to put us on stronger economic footing to be able to leverage our currency and curb inflation, though.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:17pmOkie. Your logic is flawed. If I as a small business owner will pay less, and believe me I will, then how can the poor not pay more and the plan remains revenue neutral? The country would have to have a huge increase in economic output to make up the difference from my tax cut if the poor do not pay more. Don’t get me wrong I believe cutting taxes creates a stimulus but that is going to have to be one heck of a stimulus.
Report Post »Also, 9-9-9 does not address the real problem…spending. We do not have a revenue problem, we have spending problem. If Hermain Cain is elected and spends all of his capital pushing through 9-9-9 we will still not have addressed the major problem. It would now be worse because the poor would be squeezed even more by the sales tax there would be upward pressure on government spending.
The unitended consequences of 9-9-9 would be enormous. A shut down of new housing markets, sales of new cars and other goods would plummett because of the new sales tax and a alternative barter society would be set up to avoud the sales tax. Government revenue would plummet.
escape_from_socialism
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:21pmAll you naives believing in this 999 will stay 999. My God, how many time government promise some something, but end up as usual. Don’t give federal govt. even an inch. First repeal 16th, then we can start talking
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:25pmIf Cain wins the GOP nod he will sink faster than the titanic along with his 999 plan against Obama in the general election.
The creation of a new revenue stream to fund government spending under an administration like the Obama administration would be disastrous.
Did anyone in their wildest dreams think that Obama could have pushed through a national healthcare program that no one wanted that also cost taxpayers trillions of dollars, along with a trillion dollar stimulus just after Bush signed off on the trillion dollar tarp solution and a 100 billion dollar auto bailout amongst other expenditures.
I laugh at those PRO-999 people who say that the rates will remain the same and that it would take a miracle for anything to change in Cain’s precious 999 bill. I would expect to hear garbage like that from Nancy Pelosi but not from fake Blaze conservatives. Cain is the Mandatory Tax loving RINO not Romney!!
So the government will dictate what items will get the national sales tax. For now old Herman said that they won’t tax used goods, that could easily change if the government wasn’t bringing in enough revenue to support spending programs. I read the national sales tax covers goods and services, I can easily see how busnesses,utilities,internet sales,doctors visits,medicines,gasoline,fuel oil,will get hit with this tax to generate revenue. To me it is not the governments place to cherry pick what gets taxed in terms of goods and services.
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:44pmMatt. I think I understand 9-9-9 pretty well. 9% corporate tax. 9% sales tax. 9% income tax. No sales tax on used purchases but 9% on new purchases. How will that help the housing, car, furniture and other industries to grow. This represents a huge tax increase on the poor and a huge tax break for those who do well. Plain and simple. I rant about it in every post because if Herman Cain is our nominee BHO will bury Cain with 9-9-9.
Report Post »Anyone can call people names (though I must admit this is the first time I have ever been called a democrat plant, my family will love that one) but why not address the specific issues I have with the plan.
1) tax increase on the poor and middle class.
2) Creates an underground economy to avoid the sales tax portion. (just look at black market cigarette sales in New York if you think I am wrong on this one)
3) Devestating to the producers of new products.
4) Hidden tax on savings. If I have $20,000 in the bank and I want to go buy a new car I suddenly have to pay 9% more on money that has all ready been taxed.
5) Gives BHO a club to beat us with.
Can you do better than name calling?
OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:11pm@PG – 9-9-9 stays revenue neutral by expanding the tax base to include people and organizations that normally find means for avoiding paying taxes altogether. No more loopholes for companies like GE. Lots of people don’t file for income tax, but even drug dealers and tourists would pay sales tax.
@others – concern over giving opportunity for the fed to tax more is legitimate and amending the constitution to make income tax illegal again would be terrific. But, reality is that scraping the current system for 9-9-9 would actually make it harder for the feds to raise taxes than it is right now. The only thing keeping them from taxing us into oblivion now is constant vigilance on the part of the American people.
As it is right now, it takes a team of lawyers to even know if our tax burden changed in many cases because the system is so complex and obscure. 9-9-9 is so simple and easy to understand that it’s massively harder for politicians to sneak in tax increases and reward their friends with crony capitalism – which is a lot of why liberals and socialists hate it so much. It’s too transparent for their taste.
And Cain has said before, 9-9-9 is a stepping stone towards the FairTax and abolishing the 16th.
Report Post »OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:27pmAgain, the sales tax portion just replaces a portion of the embedded tax that we already pay. Your brand new car or house wouldn’t cost any extra than it does now. Ford will have to pass on their savings and the savings of their glass/metal/manufactured parts, etc…because of they don’t, Chrysler or GM will.
Lots of areas in the country already have substantial sales tax (over 9% where I live already) and there’s no rampant black markets going around. Retail sales is actually the easiest and cheapest component for the fed to police. The current system is drastically more costly to collect and more easily dodged than 9-9-9 would be.
Report Post »TeaPartyDragon
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:07pm9-9-9 will be 0-12-9 no income tax on the second phase; any way you look at it I want everyone to have skin in the game, deadbeat lazy, down on their luck poor, middle class, rich, drug dealer, illegal, politician and you name it… everyone! I have been paying taxes since I was 16 and started working.
Cain is the real MAN for 2012- don’t buy what the mainstream media are telling you.
Anyone will beat Obama (2012) as long as they are not communist as well.
Democrat stands for communist pure and simple.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:08pm@Okie E
Glad to speak to another Okie!
The 9-9-9 plan: corporations have no tax on good bought between companies, raw goods, so is that a “loophole” in a way for them?
A loophole is a deduction for certain items to lower taxes so by not charging sales tax on raw goods between companies all companies get one big loophole right?
Since payroll tax is eliminated Social Security, medicare, Medicaid would all come from the general fund wouldn’t it? How does that affect these programs?
States and local governments would have to pay the 9% sales tax, correct? Will they pass this tax on them to us the people?
Rebate checks will be sent to this who cannot afford taxes. Is this not redistrubting wealth?
Last, Cain will have to amend the Constitution in order to bind other Congresses to his 2/3 requirement to raise rates. 2/3 majority can also over ride a veto now. Do you think Cain can get an amendment passed and if so how long would it take.
I appreciate you thoughts and respectful posts. Stay safe!
Report Post »OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 6:09pmLoophole between companies – not really. It’s what separates the plan from a VAT and keeps it transparent and visible. VAT’s tax at every stage and make actual tax burden extremely difficult to track and extremely easy to hide. Conceptually, every product or service (and their cost) has to eventually funnel to a consumer paying for a good or service. (And the basis of wealth is consumers acquiring these goods or services.) I might have a fictional company that produces raw steel billets… None of my customers would ever pay sales tax for the billets because they are mills and manufacturers – not consumers. However, on a consumer level that billet has no value at all. If I plopped one down in your front yard, it wouldn’t add any wealth to your life; it would just be an eyesore. If someone else turned it into a brake disc that you purchase at Autozone – different story. Having the tax at retail level just brings the point of taxation to match reality: consumers pay all taxes.
Yes, social programs would come from general fund. It would affect them not at all, or potentially positively by expanding their tax base. (Long term viability of these programs comes from shrinking tax base vs. growing beneficiary base.) Since politicians have been raiding the social programs for many years as well as the obvious need to supplement funds if they run short, they have already functioning as if they were general fund items anyway.
Report Post »OkieEngineer
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 6:11pmI expect local governments would pay their contractors sales tax for new building projects, but again the sales tax would just replace embedded tax cost in this case as well.
The rebate check is part of the FairTax, but is not part of 9-9-9. The idea behind it for the FairTax is not requiring people to pay tax on the necessities of life based on the assumption that everyone has poverty level spending that covers those necessities.
As nice as a Constitutional amendment would be, it would be difficult to get and in my mind, unnecessary to proceeding with an improved tax system. 9-9-9 and the FairTax leave us massively less vulnerable to tax increases compared to our current system. The ease of politicians hiking up tax burden is directly related to how easily understood and transparent a tax system is. It’s very easy to identify and rally support to oppose legislation that raises a clear, flat tax rate. It’s very difficult to identify and rally support oppose legislation that adjusts obscure corporate tax deduction rules that eventually funnel down to consumers with a 3% average increase in prices. The later is what we have now, where liberals would pat themselves on the back for “sticking it to those big oil fat cats” while they stand at a gas pump paying an extra 5 cents a gallon.
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 4:33amPG mike- The last flat tax article i read was in the american spector back in ‘96 part of that article said
Report Post »that people making under 15,000-20,000 would not be taxed. I don’t know if herman cain would do this, because the plan as it has been explained is long on generalities and short on details. but i’m sure that he would have a cut off point for the poor. But as a poor person, i think it’s a good idea for
every class to have some skin in the game(you know, the 47% who pay no income taxes!) If everybody pays some form of taxes, the clowns in washington would think twice before raising taxes for fear of the voters wraith.
Darla_K
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:15amI agree with Rush 100%. We must back the last one standing. Unfortunately, the one I wanted didn’t even get in and it was disappointing. Maybe she will be a strong voice and get the people to realize we must get rid of the POS in the White House no matter who the choice is left standing. It is so disappointing though to have to back a RINO that I disagree with. God help us all.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:46amRush is on drugs.
Report Post »BelievinginAmerica
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:53amYou and I both Darla! God, Please Bless America!
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:18pmRush and Glenn both spew the exact same thing Ron Paul has been saying since he ran for Congress. Yet… they belittle and call him names… how odd? My only guess is, they don’t really WANT the country to get better, they LOVE their jobs.
Report Post »S_Scarrella
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:12amRush, I couldn’t agree more.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:12amRomney is the one reason we have obamacare!! If not for those blue blooded union card carrying Mass wholes that actually made this a STATE LAW, we wouldn’t have had such a stark and shining example of a failure of a system!!! You know, the exact kind of failure that the Dems love so much. As long as it gains a liberal power they could care less about the results!!!! PASS the bill so we can find out whats in it!!! Only a Liberal would retain power after a comment like that!! ha ha ha
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:18amAnd Romney sent his advisers to the White House to talk about his health care plan with Obummer. What does that say?
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:54amRomneycare is nothing like Obamacare. I see you just love spreading the liberal talking points. So are you on Axelrod’s campaign staff for the Obama reelection campaign.
This is completely false and it doesn’t take a village idiot to research this fact!
So now the Blaze supports propaganda. By conservatives not taking Rush to task on his Romney flip-flop puts him and the Blaze and Romney critics in the same boat as the MSM propaganda machine. Either way it is wrong.
Report Post »BelievinginAmerica
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:55amI wish TheBlaze wold add a LIKE or AWESOME button on here for some of these comments…. :)
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:22pm@SLR5428 Your statement that “romneycare and obamacare are nothing alike” is about as false to me as the “moon is made of green cheese”. The idea of government controlled healthcare WAS implemented by Massachusetts at a state level! Using that as a shining example that ONE state implemented, the Federal Government “liberal/progressives” decided it was good for the rest of the country! Passed mind you, when NO ONE read the bill, just on good feelings and misguided intentions!
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 4:50amBeware of progrssives bearing false gifts!
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:12amRomney is just another RINO. He is comfortable with system that exchanges special privileges for political support. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »quicker
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:10amDon`t let the pudits pick our canidate ,don`t let the media pick our canidate.We are smarter and more iformed than we were 4 yrs ago.And we need to send the message that no RINOS need to apply.Do the same in your state.Make a clean sweep .Clean out all progessives be them dems or gop.Then letts hold their feet to the fire .
bolsen00
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:52amYeah why don’t you listen to your own advice and NOT vote for the candidates Rush is pushing? All the fox reporters want someone other than Romney…DON’T listen to them! They have an agenda just like rush and Beck! They’ll lose this election for the GOP still!
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:27pmthey NEED liberals to be pushing as hard as they are, [Glenn and Rush] are jobless if a TRUE candidate gets in and wins… without all this crazy stuff going on, they have no ground to talk on. this is a fact and MUST be realized. We can’t ignore that…
Check it out… Do you hear Rush or Glenn say this, “Come on guys, lets get things on the right track, I DON’T WANT TO DO THIS FOREVER.” do they tell you that they don’t want to do this anymore? no… i have NEVER EVER heard Rush or Glenn say that. they LOVE to do it…
Report Post »Personally, i would HATE to do it. in fact, i would tell you everyday how much i hate it and i just want to go back to my family and normal job and hobbies. that’s what i would say…
that is what Ron Paul basically says… he doesn’t WANT to be president, which is why he is THE BEST choice. he knows he HAS to be president. realize this people… the person who doesn’t WANT to lead is the BEST leader. the person who WANTS to lead, WANTS to control people.
edmundburk
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 5:10am@Bolesendo-Everyone who follows Glenn Beck knows that MOST fox commentaters are either establisment right or progressive left and as fox follower, i can state catagoricly that every fox commintater right or left has backed ROMNEY so go back to HOFPO you troll!!
Report Post »bandi9
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:08ami simply want a candidate who will beat Obama at this point. perfect? not a requirement at this crucial stage. Please Repubs, dont kill each other in process….stay focused on defeating Obama.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:14amHe will be defeated! Especially if the “established blue bloods” DO NOT get there way with another RINO like McCain! I am leaning towards the amazing slogan “Rock you like a Herman Cain” the slogan alone gives me visions of a landslide toppeling the Democratic party!! ha ha
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:20amInstead, why don’t you get off your azz and work for a candidate that is for the country and its citizens.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:53amNot good enough. Remember three years ago, it was anyone but Bush. Look at what we got. This anyone but Obama will get us another Obama. Romney may be a nice guy(not that politicians can ever be nice people because they are always plotting ways to use others for their benefit)but he is not conservative. Look at Massachusetts. Did he change anything there? or did he go along with the left to get along and create an even bigger monster? Open your eyes and see. Romney is Obama. Obama is Romney.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:47pmi feel, at this point, a kangaroo would be Obama. the man is An Epic Failure on every level. he, straight up, told his voters that he PROMISES he WILL bring the troops home FIRST THING. did he? many voted for him SIMPLY for that reason… good luck to him. he, by all rights, should be hung for lying to the people as blatent as he did, he didn’t even TRY to get the troops home or end the war, in fact, he started more conflicts… without any approval from congress, the SAME reason the left hated Bush… go ahead and ignore that… it is our Right and Duty to take our government back… read the Declaration of Independence today. If Ron “Thomas Jefferson” Paul doesn’t win, we all lose.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:08amGo Herman, go!
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:23amYou know how I know Herman Cain is going to lose? Because everyone here is on his side.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:57amCain will lose in the General Election because his one trick pony 999 will burn and crah big time in the general election with Independents and Reagan Democrats and some Republicans.
Report Post »Wojciech W.
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:06amHi everyone, just wanted to say that ppl like ^Newlife56^ telling others like Rush to “shut up” because it contradicts what they believe in, proves that ^Newlife56^ and ppl like him are not conservative either. We as Americans need to stand up and “Tolerate Nothing” like Glenn said. Or like in the military, 0 tolerance policy. You can call me a purist if you’d like, but the fact remains … our founding principles are not up for discussion, EVER! Thank you.
Report Post »Navysquid
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:58amEven Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, Franklin, et al had to come to some compromises with each other as many of our Founding Fathers had different points of view…something to remember as you look at all these candidates. Any of our candidates are better than the current occupant.
Report Post »Californiasodbuster
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:05amThank you Rush, hope enough people hear you.
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:01amRomney = Obama light.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:08amAt best.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:27amOkay…Global warming agenda makes me nervous too.. I agree that the environmental BS is just that….something to line their pockets. I could be persuaded to vote for Cain. But he or someone is going to have to convince me that his plan would drive costs down in place of blowing the prices off the map. Rush is actually making a lot of sense. I decided that I wouldn’t vote for Romney when I first heard his stance on it. I thought that he was probably on the take. But we really don’t have a great choice for all the ones we have. But puh–lease.. Rick Perrry would run this country into the ground.. he prefers Mexico..is making money off of tax payers by supporting them in prisons,education . We tax payers are spending 338.3 billion a yr on them with welfare, medicade etc. He also supports muslims. No Rick Perry..absolutely not. He is a democrat who changed his party ticket.
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:32amRomney =’s Obama heavy!!
Romney is the lefts Trojan horse!
Perry/Paul 2012
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 5:26amamen, bother!
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:01amyes Romney would repeal Obamacare.
Report Post »yes Romney is different than Barry – he knows and has real economic experience.
yes he will bring moderates and independents to the table.
Yes he is smart and polished and will eat Obama for lunch in the debates.
Yes he can and would win the presidency.
zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:10amHe would NOT repeal Obamacare. He‘s been asked and only says he’ll provide waivers for all 50 states. Which means states like Texas will be paying for universal healthcare in California. He wil not repeal Obamacare.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:18amHey Zorro, I bet if Republicans take the House and Senate and send him a repeal bill he would sign it. He wouldn’t have a choice. I wish one of these dorks asking the questions at the debates would ask them all that question so we could get them on record.
Report Post »drago
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:26am@Jakartaman
Report Post »I respectfully disagree with you, that would be no times 5, imo, your are dead wrong, and Rush is 100% right.
zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:31amI‘d like to believe that Gonzo but I’m willing to bet he gives us some talking points about giving the states the choice, etc. If a state wants to fund their own, that’s fine with me. But I don’t want the Feds to do it. And I honestly think Romney thinks this is a good idea for whoever wants it. And it just simply isn’t.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:41amNewt is right. No matter who we elect as President it is essential that we elect a Republican House and Senate, and stuff them with conservatives. If we have that it won’t be as bad if Romney is the nominee, but for the sake of judicial appointments I really want a conservative in the White House.
William F. Buckley had a rule: vote for the most conservative candidate that can win. That does not mean vote for the the first candidate that you think can win or for the won who you think will win most easily. It is a reasonable argument that Palin might not have been electable due to her high negatives espescially among independents. But that doesn’t mean we have to settle for a non-conservative. Cain, if nominated would easily win against Obama. Thus, by Buckley’s rule, he is the more conservative electable candidate than Romney and we should vote for him. Onmce the big conservative donors wake up to that we can breath more easily about the race.
Report Post »BelievinginAmerica
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:45amAnd your point? We would just have a whiter OBAMA! I will NOT vote for ROMNEYCARE!
Report Post »Navysquid
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:11amRomney has said over and over and over he will send to the States the right to waive AND then repeal the Bill through Congress. Romney understands, unlike Obama, that he CANNOT just say something and it is done by his spoken word but has to go through Congress to Repeal it. He has said this multiple times but I guess those that do not like him CHOOSE not to hear that portion.
One other comment that I agree with another poster, how come National Review supported Romney.
Report Post »Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingram, Jim deMint, Rick Santorum, Tom Tancredo, Ann Coulter….lots of hard core conservatives endorsed Romney in 2008 and they didn’t have to, they could‘ve gone for someone else or not endorsed at all if Romney wasn’t conservative….as some are implying now.
In 2007 National Review endorsed Mitt Romney for President well in advance of the Primaries as the Washington outsider and being to the right of John McCain. This was long AFTER revelations about ‘Romneycare’ and his other political evolutions. At the time National Review seemed to view Romney’s Mass. health coverage effort favorably as being forward thinking and as being able to pass a free market solution in an ice cold blue state. So my question for those of you at NRO is…WHAT’S CHANGED?! Or did the unfortunate passing of William F. Buckley take reason free from ideological purity along with him?
Think about it people. Romney has only gotten better as a candidate and solidified his conservative points o
etoddt
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:45am@ BelievinginAmerica
Then you’ll be happy to know that Romney has been (and still is promising) to “repeal” Obamacare – a position he restated in the last debate when challenged on the issue by Rick Santorum – watch the video (starting at 51:30 where Santorum brings up Obamacare)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-debate—full-video/2011/10/12/gIQAig5QeL_video.html
Report Post »chewfatlip
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:23pmRomney is a conservative, but he is a Massachuettes conservative – much like Scott Brown. A RINO plain and simple.
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on October 15, 2011 at 5:48am@ navy squid, in 2008 we had progressives running for president, so there was not much choice, either way we were going to get a progressive. this time around, we have 4 reasonably conserative
Report Post »canidates(bachman,cain,sentormim and yes, rick perry, despite what you might think, perry is to the RIGHT of romney!) as michelle bachman has put it well,”no matter what they say don’t settle!”
Romney is settling!
eyesodd
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:01amAnd people wonder why Herman Cain is becoming a front runner. GO HERMAN!
Report Post »PGMike
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:27amCain’s 9-9-9 plan would bring the economy to a screaching halt and send tax revenue spiraling downward. He calls for a 9% sales tax on new purchases but not used purchases. So the sales of new homes, new cars, new appliances, new furniture would plummett. It would also create a vast underground economy of people trading and bartering to avoid the sales tax. Remember, when you tax an activity you get less of that activity. It is a massive tax increase on the poor, who I agree need some skin in the game, and would devestate the family budgets of most middle class and low income people. Just imagine a family of 4 earning $40,000 per year going from paying 7% FICA to 18% total tax. $4,400 a year more in tax. Where would it come from.
Report Post »As a small business owner I would love it. My tax bill would go from about 50% total combined tax to less than 25% but the majority of people will freak when they learn what it really means for them.
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:36amReally PG? Hmmmm, seems Dr. Laffer disagrees with you. I think I’ll take his opinion over yours.
Report Post »NJTMATO
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:00am@ Zorro – FULLY AGREE!!! I think Romney is a perfectly nice gentleman with some fairly good ideas but he is just NOT a conservative. I don’t know about you or anyone else here but this year, I refuse to hold my nose when I vote like I did last time. I’m finished with that. Right now I am on the Cain Train, and I hope the next couple of months give me the time I need to be doubly sure. However, I think we need to remember that it’s NOT just the POTUS that makes the rules here…we need to get strong conservative reps in Congress/Senate….and support those people. AND TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:59amI would rather see Perry or Cain. I’m not ready to count Perry out yet. A lot can happen. Rush is right Romney is a Rino. He will not admit that he made a mistake with Romney care saying he did it for the “Children”. Hmmmmmm where have we heard that before?
Report Post »conservative_dan
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 6:34pmI don’t want to count Perry out either, but he really has to give me a reason to want to vote for him. I’ll take a look at his newly released energy plan, that could be a start. Of course, if we’re talking about the “chillin’s”, Perry also used them to explain his in-state tuition stance!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:58amIt’s funny how the left thinks conservatives get their ideas from Rush but, in reality…he‘s just saying what we’re already thinking.
Report Post »Legalette
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:05amThat’s exactly right!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:34am@gonzo, yep!!! he just so happens to have a golden microphone and millions of listeners,i for one have not listen to rush in years until here resonantly,but he is saying just how i fell.
Report Post »BelievinginAmerica
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:51amIsn’t it amazing how we conservatives like Rush and Gb all think alike, they just get to say it to a mass outlet for We The People! United We Stand and In God We Must Trust!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:57amIndeed, the world has been turned upside down on its head, as is the nation — and the one we need to make it right is Cain, not Romney.
Report Post »http://artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (cat folk art, new ones)
momrules
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:21amThe MSM is trying desperately to discredit Mr. Cain. Thay haven’t said a disparageing word about Romney to my knowlege. The more the left hates him you know that Mr. Cain is scaring them.
Report Post »BernieKittyCat
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:53amSnow,
Report Post »Your comments have been decidedly pessimistic lately. I share your concerns. Please know that there are many, many people who pray for this country and for you. Please have faith that God will protect us. God bless you and yours.
NHwinter
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:18pmSnow – I think Newt is the one we need. He has the experience, the plan, the forcefulness, the debating skills to blow Obama off the stage, he’s says it like it is, and will undo all Obama has done on the first day in office. Not one other candidate has the experience in domestice and foreign affairs that Newt has. He will surround himself with Conservatives.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:56amSame problem many of us here have with the guy. Romney believes in Man-made Global Warming and THAT alone keeps me from supporting the guy. I, also, will not vote for anyone who supports a government health-care system. You can keep the RINO, I’ll take Cain, Gingrich, or Bachmann, as they understand constitutional conservatism, plus, the LSM keeps pushing Romney and that bothers me.
Report Post »Cain\Rubio 2012
Vechorik
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:10amJudge Napolitano “Letter to those on Occupy Wall Street”
awesome look at recent history, Tea Party, government intervention, and both sides of the political spectrum today:
He suggested common goals:
End the Fed
End the wars
End the income tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF30eMuWFHI
Report Post »freedomweiner
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:55amWhere are the articles about Israel attacking Iran ?????
False flag. Obama needs a war to change the national conversation so we need to go out and kill more innocent peoples.
There is an elephant in the room, guys.
Report Post »BelievinginAmerica
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:25amWhat an idiological statement…with not one piece of evidence to back up your negligent statement.
FACT: God has much to say about His Covenant people and His Land, Israel.
The Land of Israel is the only place on earth which God says He owns in terms of property ownership that can be transferred. (Of course, we know the whole world is His, yet this one parcel of land on the earth has a unique relationship to Him.) About Israel, He says, “The land, moreover, shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine: for you are but aliens and sojourners with Me” (Leviticus 25:23).
http://www.ldolphin.org/twelvekeys.html
This website may help you understand why Israel protects itself, and why all other muslim countries want to fight it. God will prevail!
Report Post »MiCurmudgeon
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:55amRomney may not pass all tests of Conservatives, but I’ll bet he surrounds himself with advisors who will lead this Country back to fiscal sanity. This is completely opposite of the present Campaigner/Complainer/Blamer-in-Chief we now have.
Report Post »Legalette
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:06amThis may be true but I would rather have a true conservative president who surrounds himself or herself with true conservatives.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:07amYour comment leads me to believe Romney actually passes some tests. He passes NO TESTS, in my opinion. We conservatives are better off supporting conservative senators and representatives in Congress and let Obama keep the Presidency. A Romney Presidency will spell the dame bull we have now. Obama and Romney are pretty much the same.
And you better believe Romney will keep Obamacare in place. All of it.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:17amWhat I wish more people would understand is that the economy, though devastating, is nothing more than a symptom of the disease. We need to cut the cancer out and the symptoms will go away. I don’t think Romney understands that either.
Romney is quite the politician and he knows what the people want to hear but I do believe he would revert to being just one of the establishment Republicans as soon as he got the votes he wants. Would I vote for Romney to get 0bama out of there? Yep, without batting an eye.
I don’t see anybody in the race who understands the real problem as clearly as Herman Cain …. well, and possibly Bachmann.
Report Post »MiCurmudgeon
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:22amLegalette, I agree. My first presidential vote went for Goldwater. I would vote for the Devil himself before I would vote for Obama. However , no matter who gets the nomination we must all work together to send him packing.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:44amZorro..after listening to Rush…I decided that he is probably right. Romney does have good speak…but I don’t like his stance of Global Warming. We do need someone who will restructure the green destructive money grabbing ,job killing “EPA” I am afraid though that we may not have a choice. WE don’t really have a say in who we get for a canditate do we?
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 10:39amRight QP. Dr. Paul know’s nothing of the economic issues. He just wrote the books that fueled the creation of the Tea Party and has been fighting government largess and the unconstitutional Fed. But you’re right, he’s in the “know nothing” crowd.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:46amMiCurmudgeon,
Report Post »I was talking about the candidates who might be the nominee.
bpitas
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:34pmQP – Ron Paul is in third nationally, and has won more straw polls than any other candidate. Not sure where you are getting that he has no chance at the nomination…
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:49amRick Santorum is the only viable, true “conservative” in the current field.
Report Post »NewLife56
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:43amI love ya Rush, but sometimes you need to shut up, you really would rather have Obama back than Romney? Get Real man
Report Post »zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:49amWhy is this so hard for you to believe? Do you really think a Romney Presidency would be that much more different than an Obama Presidency? Do you really believe Romney is going to repeal Obamacare? You get real.
The only difference between Romney and Obama is that if Romney wins, Republicans will be blamed for advancing the liberal agenda.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:55amNah, he said he would vote for the last republican standing after it is all said and done. I think all of us will, hell any dog should be able to win this one. But look what is now going on in the US…and I thought it would only be a spark.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:56amThe choice is not Romney or Obama, yet. Rush will back Romney if he gets the nomination.
Report Post »Docsis
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:57amWe shouldn’t have to “settle” for anyone. We “settled with McCain last time, and look what that got us. To say we should support Romney just because he isn’t Obama is foolish. We need a REAL conservative to win win the nomination and hopefully the White House.
Report Post »BernieKittyCat
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:59amHe didn’t say that. Rush would vote for Romney in a heartbeat against Obama. What Rush and other conservatives are saying is that we shouldn’t fall for Belt-way attempts to pick their big government candidate. What conservatives know is that a conservative candidate CAN win against Obama. Why should we settle for who the pundits think will win?
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:59amYou have to listen to his show each day. He has often said that anybody in the Republican line up is far better that Obama. He is just pointing out that Romney is not a conservative. For that matter nor is Christie, or even Perry for that matter. I know, Christie is not running, but he is backing Romney. As Glenn pointed out on his Fox show, McCain would have boiled the frog more slowly than 0bama. Romney will do the same thing. I say that we need to bring forth a true conservative as the candidate, and not another RINO.
Report Post »PIL
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:59amNEWLIFE56, it takes a conservative to beat a liberal, even I know that. Romney is better than Obama, granted, but if Romney ends up passing gun control, expanding government, and doing RINO things, we‘re basically screwed and we’ll end up with the Democrats in power again.
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ThoreauHD
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:04amThis Country is on the verge of DEATH, and you still want a RINO? Here’s the deal, if we get a RINO- we’re dead- just slower. Liberty of Death isn’t just a slogan. It’s reality.
So No. I will not vote for a RINO, which means Romney- even if Ocommi wins. If we’re gonna die, we need to go down fast and hard and get it over with. Frankly I’m tired of waiting for the civil war. And that’s what this is going to take unless a real Libertarian/Conservative can slowly right the boat.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:04am@NEWLIFE?…..So what did Rush say that wasn’t right…..Romney is not a conservative he is a RINO.
Report Post »I do not want a candidate that is going to go along with this climate change green crap,……..I know he is going to roll over for these green freaks. I don’t want a candidate who is going to most likely try to go along with obummer care in the end, oh sure he;ll modifiy it and tell us it’s not obummer care but it will be……..Rush was completely 100% right on Romney.
ashestoashes
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:07amZorro…Romney is not a Muslim…..Romney is not seeking to establish a world wide caliphate. The only reason that we don’t yet have Obamacare and Cap and Trade is because of the Congress “we the people ”placed in power. Do you even know the implications of Obamacare? Do you know what Cap and Trade are about? Thank God for the honest scientists out there who have spoken the truth. Do you know what Communism is? It astounds me that so many are ignorant of what we have in office right now.You don’t know what freedom you have until you lose it. You think it is bad right now. Check out this link for healthcare. Cap and trade was something he wanted to impose..which did nothing at all to stop Global Warming which is actually caused by the sun. But it was another form of taxation which was said that it would increase our electric bills in taxes by $300-350 a month. This is what Congress has stopped.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8
If Romney walks his talk…he won’t be that bad..He understands the Islamic problem here in the US. he wants Mosques monitored. He will tighten homeland security. A 999 plan such as that of Cain’s will drive up all costs exponentially of our goods. Paul has no clue that Obama and Holder were placed in office by the Muslim Brotherhood. nor does he know that 700 billion went in TARP to Sharia Compliant Banks here in the US. Romney is the only one who says he will fix Medicare and Social Security and has a plan to send illegals home.
zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:17amYou’re right, RichNGadsden. There is no perfect candidate. The only argument I’m making is that anyone currently running is so much better than Romney. The establishment, if there is such a thing, is only pushing Romney because he’s next in line. I don‘t care who’s next….he’s not our best candidate. I feel the the other candidates, with all their faults, are just better than Romney. He is actually the worst possible one like McCain was last election.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:27amNice try, ashestoashes. You won’t scare me with your “doom and gloom” stories. As I said, I_will_not_support_Romney. If he is the nominee, I won‘t vote for Obama but won’t vote for Romney either. I’ll support, either with a vote or financially, conservative senators and representatives from other areas instead. More important than taking back the Presidency, is taking back both houses of Congress. Romney may be slightly better than Obama. But all other candidates are better, much better, than Romney.
Report Post »drago
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:29am@newlife56 aka encinom
Report Post »Stfu idiot, and go back to your video games………
RichNGadsden
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:33amZorro, I certainly have to agree with you. One of my posts yesterday I referred to having had to hold my nose and vote for the likes of Nixon, Ford, Bush 41, Dole, Bush 43, and especially McCain only because they were somewhat better than the alternative. Again, if Romney is the candidate I will simply have to hold my nose again. I feel that I would have to do the same for Perry too if he is the candidate, but I find him a more favorable choice than Romney. So far, my pick is Cain, but still not in line with his 9-9-9 taxation plan, unless it truly works as former flat taxes have been described.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:36amUnfortunetly the luke warm independents may end up ushering Romney in. Independents are loving this guy….wishy washy luke warm voters. I was likeing what I heard from Perry this morning….going after the EPA hard……I like that. With Romney it will be business as usual down at the EPA. We can’t take another 4 years of that.
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