Russia Threatens To Target U.S. Defense Sites With Nukes
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(The Blaze/AP) — Russia will deploy new missiles aimed at U.S. missile defense sites in Europe if Washington goes ahead with the planned shield despite Russia’s concerns, President Dmitry Medvedev said Wednesday.
Russia will station missiles in its westernmost Kaliningrad region and other areas if Russia and NATO fail to reach a deal on the U.S.-led missile defense plans, he said in a tough statement that seemed to be aimed at rallying domestic support.
Russia considers the plans for missile shields in Europe, including in Romania and Poland, to be a threat to its nuclear forces, but the Obama administration insists they are meant to fend off a potential threat from Iran.
Moscow has agreed to consider NATO’s proposal last fall to cooperate on the missile shield, but the talks have been deadlocked over how the system should operate. Russia has insisted that the system should be run jointly, which NATO has rejected.
Medvedev also warned that Moscow may opt out of the New START arms control deal with the United States and halt other arms control talks if the U.S. proceeds. The Americans had hoped that the treaty would stimulate progress further ambitious arms control efforts, but such talks have stalled over tension on the missile plans.
“The United States and its NATO partners as of now aren’t going to take our concerns about the European missile defense into account,” a stern Medvedev said, adding that if the alliance continues to “stonewall” Russia it will take retaliatory action.
The U.S. plan calls for placing land- and sea-based radars and interceptors in European locations over the next decade and upgrading them over time.
Medvedev warned that Russia will deploy short-range Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad, a Baltic Sea exclave bordering Poland, and place weapons in other areas in Russia’s west and south to target U.S. missile defense sites.
Medvedev added that prospective Russian strategic nuclear missiles will be fitted with systems that would allow them to penetrate prospective missile defenses.
He and other Russian leaders have made similar threats in the past, and the latest statement appears to be aimed at domestic audience ahead of Dec. 4 parliamentary elections.
Medvedev, who is set to step down to allow Prime Minister Vladimir Putin reclaim the presidency in March’s elections, leads the ruling United Russia party list in the parliamentary vote.
A sterm warning to the U.S. and NATO issued by Medvedev seems to be directed at rallying nationalist votes in the polls.
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the_zazzy
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:03amWWIII: China, Russia, Iran, EU, and libs vs. Israel, Britain, and conservative Americans…coming soon to a neighborhood near you!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:11amI don’t know that I would include Britian on our side. They’re pretty much socialist
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:24amNothing like a weak president to encourage all our enemies to attack us with little resistance. A weakened military, financial instability, and a do nothing Congress. Looks like now is a good time for them move.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:25amIf I was Europe, I would be worried. I don’t know what their military capabilities are, but I haven’t heard a whole lot about to much with advancements over there in the past the decade. They want to US to wind down, they are setting themselves up to be run over. The story of every intellect sociolite, repeat history over and over. Honestly, aside from some support to the middle east and the pacific, I would bring much of our resources home, invest heavily in technology. I mean build 10,000 drones of all types. With out threat of losing life, a nation can act precisely and with out fear of loss of life.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:54amYou left out the Canadians and Australians
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:56amThis is why we need a POTUS who is a real alpha-male leader, and that character trait must be projected when the man is still a candidate. Obum failed to do that, and we are suffering the consequences of his appeasement policy. Putin is a hard-core commie who is fighting dirty to rebuild the USSR:
=> “Russia has long since recovered from its economic and military disarray of the early 1990s. Under Vladimir Putin, the former president turned prime minister, it crushed the insurgency in Chechnya several years ago. It has some of the biggest oil and gas companies in the world, and is flush with cash. The U.S., by contrast, is beset with economic and military crises. Whatever support Saakashvili thought Washington could deliver, the U.S. could offer little more than words.”
As a consequence, Russian troops were able to seize control of Georgia fairly quickly and destroy its NATO-class military.”
http://www.isreview.org/issues/61/rep-georgia.shtml
The above words are from a commie website, bragging about Russian imperialism in 2008. Meanwhile, we conservatives continue to help the vile libs and Paulist neolibs defame our Repub candidates. We need to stop calling them all RINOs.
Our next prez needs to drill here and now, and return to free-market principles. As CiC, he needs to WIN OUR WARS with the appropriate ROE, and ignore the media and the lib propaganda so we can effectively curb commie and Islamo-fascist imperialism.
Report Post »PerfectDuck
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:58amMight end up with Germany on our team after the euro collapse and all the lazy countriwa in europe force them to help.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:37pmNHWinter
“and a do nothing Congress. ”
So if you were a king & raised some troops to fight a war (assume a just war) that was currently stalemated, would you call it a do nothing army & disband them? Or would you recruit more & try to improve training & strategy?
Oh we recruited people, who met resistance by other people. Oh I know lets give up.
Report Post »Mythghtsrmyown
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:40pmYou forgot to include the rest of the muslim world in with the libs and russia and china
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:42pmCanada (socialized medicine) and Australia (cap and trade) are more socialist than Britian. Look at them and see what the US will become next election if a “progressive Republican” is in office.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:11pmWTF I thought the Cold War was over in 1989 but here we go again with the Ivans – remember to duck and cover.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:39pmRussia is upset about a missle defense for an Iranian threat. They’re just watching out for their buddies.
Report Post »rrjenn
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:07pmLet me get this straight, we need missile shields in Europe, including in Romania and Poland to fend off an attack from Iran? Iran is a threat to lob missiles at Romania and Poland? Somehow I find this hard to believe. Sounds like pressure designed to halt Russian support for Iran’s nuclear program to me. If Iran gets a tactical nuke, will Israel finally be willing to concede to stop the continued occupation of Palestine lands? Could Iranian nukes actually be a factor for peace in the Middle East? I rather doubt the dubious accusations that Iran is so insane that they would use nukes in any other way but to persuade the Israelis to be a little less stubborn and NAZI like when dealing with the Palestinian people
Report Post »lapua338shooter
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:18pmTerrific…I wake up from a long nap & see this AND some mush mouthed jerk on TV saying what he thinks I need to hear. When, oh when will we get a leader / government with some intelligence & cajones?!?!?
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:20pmIt’s examples like this that makes me say “Patton Was Right!”.
Patton knew the threat of the Soviet immediately upon Germany’s 1945 capitulation. He wanted to regroup and reequip the allies and move in on Stalin and end his regime. The allies could have had ended three European totalitarian states instead of just two. We had the bomb and maybe should have used the first one on Moscow instead of Hiroshima.
Imagine for a moment if the Soviet Union fell in the late 40′s instead of 1989: Millions of “Eastern Bloc” citizens would have never been enslaved. No Cuban Missile Crisis. Perhaps no Korean or Vietnam War. Maybe there would have been no arms race and no Cold War. There would have been no Soviet invasion of Afghanistan so we would have never backed Usama Bin Laden in the 80′s.
Imagine…
Russia has never been nor will it ever be a friend of the United States. Remember movies like “The Day After” or “Countdown To Looking Glass”. Those scenarios could still play out for real.
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:32pmThat little Peacock Medvedev doesn’t fear Obama. With the US military winding down, in financialy trouble and tired US population, Russia believes they can do just about anything they want. The trouble is, they can. It is so.
Report Post »lassew
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:22pmHere we go….Russia has never really been an ally. They are nothing but 2 faced b*&^#!ds. I guess its inevitable that they would start showing their true colors. Of course it helps when you have a president who is totally inept at everything.
Report Post »4blackhorses
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:20pmSubtract the Brits as an ally and add the Aussies, at least they still a head on their shoulders. But add the “peaceful religionion” of Muslims as an enemy. The Russkies can go pound their missles up their ass, their threats are no more than that, a school play yard of “I’m tougher than you.”
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:53amPRJENN- you are out of your mind if you think that Iran wants nukes just to scare and intimidate Israel. Ahmadinijad has even said that wiping Israel off the map would be worth the 200,000 casualties (done in retaliation) of his own country (is that not crazy enough for you?). Furthermore- Israel is not occupying Palestine. The land belongs to Israel. Palestine does not want a two-state resolution regardless of where the borders lie. They want ALL OF IT! What about this do you not understand? You better wise-up.
Report Post »Nathan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:37pmUndoubtedly true, indeed.
Report Post »kp2011
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 1:35amZazzy you forgot North Korea!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:55amForget Iran! Lets get Russia and then China! Iran will self destruct after that.
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:59amHey Russia, deal with the countries that want them. Don’t threaten the USA.
Report Post »JMorcan
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:07amRussia IS dealing with the countries that want them. They’re threatening to target the European sites.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:09amThis is a “so what” issue. Of course they would do that, it’s in their national self interest to keep things like this targetted. Am I the only one who grew up here prior to 1991 when everybody was targetted by nukes?
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:50amYoure insane. how can you say lets go into nuclear war and get millions killed? You need to be in a mental institution
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:05pmHow many Nations has China Russia and Iran invaded the past 20-30 years? lol
Please don’t be a fool. It‘s America that’s the problem.. Our Nation has ben hijacked by Neo-Cons who think they are entitled to rule the World. Why don’t we try to rule America for a change? lol
I could be more spefic and state that the same radical marxist group that took over Russia in the early 20th century has taken over America but I doubt you‘d understand and I’d be called ugly names if I made it any clearer.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:21pmThe small missile shield is to protect Europe from small states like Iran & North Korea that have nukes.
A missile shield with so few missile could not prevent Russia from being able to retaliate against a first strike. Russia has nothing to fear. This should be non negotiable. We should build it & let impotent Russian leaders do want they want. Pi$$ & moan to their electorate that they were not able to
intimidate the USA.
That is what this is about internal Russian politics to curry favor to the masses.
Again they know the missile shield is no threat to Russia, but if the can con a democrat politician or RINO (like Romney) into handing over US sovereignty, bonus in their eyes.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:25pmtechengineer11
We didn’t right to invade Afghanistan?
Pray tell why not?
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:30pmIran has ties with Russia and China, so no worries there. They come as a package deal.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:40pmtechengineer11
How many Nations has China Russia and Iran invaded the past 20-30 years?
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What’s with the arbitrary number? The only reason China and Russia have not invaded surrounding countries indiscriminately in the past years is because of us. Evil (invasions, crime, attacks) can be deterred. Do nothing and it will spread. But to your question, China is ready to pounce on South Korea if we blink. As to what Iran has already done to Iraq, and its future plans for the region if Hussein stays in office or your candidate were elected, read here: http://worldmeets.us/almokhtsar000001.shtml#axzz1eYGPZ6rU
Russia invaded Georgia (aided separatists) in 1991 and de facto annexed South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Then in 2008, when Georgia tried to recover its stolen territory, Russia attacked Georgia, ravaging the cities of Gori, Poti and Tbilisi. You seem to disregard or ignore how neo-communism and Islamofascism spread. They aid their Trojan horses from within. It’s what Russia did in Venezuela, and what Venezuela, in turn, has done in the South and Central American region. Similarly, Iran has invaded Lebanon and Gaza.
The only threat you see is Jews, and not because you are a Nazi. You are an Islamist, Tech. Man-up and admit it.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:45pmBrooke Lorren
Yes Russia & China protect Iran to use as a proxy to tie us down so we don’t get too strong. But for the life of me I can’t remember the last nation we colonized in the last 100 years?
Eventually if the Islamicists defeat the USA, they will attack Russian & China.
Playing with fire they are.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:51pmWalkabout
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:25pm
techengineer11
We didn’t right to invade Afghanistan?
Pray tell why not?
I didn’t have a problem with striking Afghanistan and taking out Al Queida camps.. I would have even kept an air craft carrier near by in order to strike them again once they tried to reconstitute but to invade the Nation and occupy it for over 10 years at such substantial costs? It’s illogical. Besides I thought almost all of the terrorists were from Saudi? We all know that Saudi is where the most extreme elements of Islam is found but they are aok aren’t they?
Wile I don’t have that big of a problem with striking Afhganistan in order to pacify all of the ignorant folks in America that believe they simply attacked us for no reason.. lol It’s the occupation that I have a problem with.
Speaking of striking. Why didn’t Ronald Reagan strike Lebanon after they killed all of the Marines over their? Reagan is our hero isn’t he? Is he not Red White and Blue enough for you? No he understood that we had no business over their and he did not want to further aggravate the situation. Reagan was a smart man.
Let’s take our armies out of the Middle East once and for all and if they then strike us… Well then I’d give the go ahead to destroy the entire Nation. Men women children goats and all but first let’s give peace a chance. lol
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:00pmkryptonite: Ah because of us eh? Well they were taking over many Nations back in the day when your boys were in charge and America didn’t seem to have too much of an issue with it did they? Hell we even teamed up wtih Russia and China didn’t we? Let’s see between the two Russia slaughtered about 30 million of their own citizens and China about 75 million? lol But that’s back when your boys were in control right? They were the good ole boys back then but now they assert a little Nationalism and they must be brought down right? lol
Oh how I love some Jews.. Where oh were would we be without the Jews???
Let’s see you loved Germany in 1914 and hated Russia, then came Balfour and you turned on Germany and supported Russia.. You took over Russia in 1917 and had a love affair with them for about 4 decades until… What happened? The worm turned didn’t it? Now Russians are running their country again your boys are running America.. So we are all suppose to hate Russia again now right?
Your boys change allegiance so darn much it‘s no wonder that the average American doesn’t know what the heck is going on right? But you know don’t you? You have that inside knowledge don’t you?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:53pm@Shawn
Targetting doesn’t mean launching. You know that right?
Russia targetted countless facilities and bases in these united States since the 1950′s. And we targetted (or still do) countless facilities and bases in their nation.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:00pm@TECHENGINEER
Report Post »Hit a nerve, didn’t I?
techengineer11
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:21pmKrypt: “The only threat you see is Jews, and not because you are a Nazi. You are an Islamist, Tech. Man-up and admit it.”
Anyone that has ever read two or three of my posts know that I don‘t give a rip about Islam and realize that I’m a definitely a Nationalist. I actually love my country. I admire esteem and respect wholeheartedly my forefathers who founded it and I have an allegiance to its Constitution.
That being said you are correct. I do see the Jews as the greatest threat to America and the World without question. As a matter of fact I believe they have already destroyed my country from within and I just want to make sure they get their proper credit for the wonderful work which they have done the past 100 years. Nobody knows how to wreck a Nation quicker than the Jewish people do. Afterall they are not called Nation Wreckers without cause.
ps: I’ve been on a roll the past 3 or 4 days with nothing being censored. It’s been nice. Let’s see how long this post remains if it even gets posted.. lol
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:33pm@ Kryptonite
Report Post »Yes. Yes, you did.
obxned
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:51amOooow, so if we don’t do things their way, they will target our defensive missles??? So what are they targeting now, 7-11s, WalMart, or maybe Victoria Secrets stores?
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:50amAnother thought …Seeing as how according to whoever will be behind the desk in the Oval Office ..We will be playing catch a terrorists by the toe forever ..and with new spying on the Chinese and a new cold war with the Russians again…The unemployed should have jobs over at the CIA ……Were going to need millions of intelligence gathering people …To bring the information to committees sub committees and super committee’s and super super super secret committees to …study ….(code word do nothing) …
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:27pmAbout 7 more years & we will be in a shooting war with the Chinese. I blame the Democrats & the whole left end of the spectrum.
Report Post »THE COMING
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:47amWe are now standing at the brink. Our path forward is that of a time filled with darkness and despair. But what else can we expect? It is not only our political leaders that have lost their way, it is many of the American people as well. The nation is divided as never before, and a nation divided cannot stand. Even during the civil war, those on both sides shared a strong belief in God, and of family, but no more. We have lost that which allowed us to become the greatest nation on earth. We have lost our way. The Old-Testament is filled with stories of those that turned their back upon God. This is not the ramblings of a religious zealot, but rather a biblical historian that believes as King Solomon, that there is nothing new under the sun. In other words, history repeats itself. And as such, unless we turn once back to God, our fate is sealed!
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:08pmYou went to the root of the problem. I’m not that optimistic either. We are in the decline, and I don’t know if we are able/willing to stop the fall, given the rampant pseudo-Christianity and atheism in America.
Report Post »nonofmybiznez
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:46amWhy is Russia protecting Iran? What have they got to gain from this? What relationship is between them?
Report Post »CptStubbing
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:09amAre all Americans so naïve as to think that our presence around the world doesn’t stir up trouble. It doesn’t matter if they have anything going on with Iran. It is against Russia’s best interest to allow a missile defense system that close to their border. Russia has to be asking itself, “what would stop America from attacking us after they attack Iran?” Would we be okay with Russia putting a defense system in Central America just in case they were attacked from Nicaragua? The Russians could have total control over the system and we wouldn’t have to worry what-so-ever that they might attack.
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:28amRussia is not protecting Iran. They just don’t believe that US/NATO missile defenses are truly intended to counter the Iranian threat, but rather, so that NATO can make inroads upon Russia without fear of retaliation.
Obama’s pro-Muslim and anti-Israel policies have convinced Russia that Obama is uninterested in countering the Iranian agenda, and that US claims to be setting up this missile shield against Iran are just a sham.
Russia was pro-American before the Kosovo War. Just sayin’.
Report Post »SLARTIBARTFAST
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:28amThere are no permanent friends or enemies; only permanent interests. International politics becomes much clearer when you keep this in mind.
Report Post »jimmycrackcorn
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:29amRussia and Iran are allies in Biblical prophesy in Ezek 39
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:51amMaybe because we act like a imperialistic country and people are sick of us bulling them around.
Report Post »Sgt_Rock
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:02pmHey CptStubbing, I don’t know if you caught this or not, but El Magnifico himself, Hugo Chavez offered the Russians that very opportunity just a couple of years ago. Now, I’m not privy to our current Humint capabilities, especially in Venezuela, so I don’t know what “we” know about Ivans’ presence in Venezuela, but I do know he has a new found appetite for Russian made military goodies and an unnatural attraction to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Unfortunately, I’m not sure our current administration would have the same reaction you describe if it was determined the Russians did have a defensive missile system in the hemisphere. But he most significant issue has never been where we are, but our motive for being there. When compared to our Russian “friends” I would take our motives over theirs any day. Ask the Poles, Chechs, or the Hungarians and I think they’d agree.
Report Post »Sgt_Rock
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:43pm@ ShawnB…First my apologies to the Czechs and for the mis-spelling and to the Slovaks for the exclusion. All of the former “East Bloc” countries certainly have a bone to pick with their former overseers, the Russians. Funny how all of THEM want to join NATO. As for acting like and Imperialistic country, acting like and BEING are two different things altogether. We are described by others, often our critics, as imperialists, for spreading our wealth and capitalist ideology around the world, yet those same critics are the first to beg for and benefit from our financial assistance. We are the first to respond, with the most, whenever there is a major disaster, anywhere in the world and have never sent a foreign government a bill for our services. Yet in our times of need you will seldom if ever see a foreign nation lend a hand. Sure there were foreign SAR folks at 9-11, but you can count the events on one hand. Yeah dude, we have been all over the world subjugating people, stealing their natural resources, enslaving their citizens, occupying their countries for a hundred years, destroying whole cultures, conscripting their men into our military, just laying waste. What an empire we’ve built. Please! So did you get that from some ignorant leftist political science professor, some other member of our nation’s elite academia? Or did you come up with that on your own? If you paid for that education, you should call a cop, because got robbed.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:42amWe shouldn’t have bases in other countries anyway.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:03amco-signed.
Report Post »pacomj60
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:10pmHelp me out. Where did you put your head? Do you have a clue about this world or are you a Dodo bird. You realize they are extinct. Thinking this way insures that we as a nation will become extinct. In the real world there are enemies, a couple of friends, and superficial friends. The enemies have clearly stated it is our time to go. They are Russia, China, North Korea, Iran & every adherent of Sharia law. Of all of our so called friends I have learned that the UK and Canada are truly with us when it comes time to put lives on the line. All others are superficial friends as you never know where they really stand. Don’t kid yourself Russia hasn’t learned yet it is a 3rd rate power so it will act as an equal and if they ever get the chance they will act.
Report Post »Romanticpoet
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:42amObama’ naive ideology is astounding: Russia testing bulava ballistic missiles; Putin waiting on the sideline.
https://romanticpoet.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/while-obama-plans-disbandment-of-nuclear-weapons-russia-successfully-tests-bulava-ballistic-missile/
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:39amI hope they do opt out of START. It was always to their advantage anyway and we should never have agreed to it.
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:37amIs it just me or do all the other countries do whatever they flipping want to do – whether we like it or not?
Yet, we are “supposed to bow”.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:57amThis what happens when we don’t have a leader.
Report Post »CptStubbing
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:12amYes, yes they do because they are sovereign nations. Do we ask other countries for permission to do anything? Of course not, because if we did they might tell us “no.” And if they told us “no” we would just ignore them anyways.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:19amObama is no leader, he will cave on this issue
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:37amGuess were our missiles are aimed?
Report Post »No at russian missile sites – the missiles would be gone – duh
Ours are aimed at population and strategic infrastructure targets
chips1
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:37amSounds like the Dems goals. Make it illegal to defend yourself. Take a swing at me and see what happens!!!!
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:36amDon’t worry… Ron Paul will go talk nicely to them and take care of that mess with all those Diplomats we have hanging about just chomping at the bit for something to do.
Worst case scenerio… Ron Paul sends a money bomb at Russia in a new diplomatic manuever called… aw, you don’t realy mean that and btw, thanks for your Television support here on the home-front.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:56amThese new threats are EXACTLY what Ron Paul has been warning about – we are building missile systems in Europe, to protect Europe, not the USA.
This response has the same sources as the base sources – we mess around in other people’s countries and they get upset. We don’t need to support or defend ANYONE nowadays. Everyone can take care of themselves.
Ron Paul would build missile defense forces for the USA.
Report Post »Lordchamp
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:10amAnd so Seccession what do we do when everything else except us is controlled by communist and terroist and all that is left is us? What do we do when we are surrounded on all sides? Do you honestly think we will survive then? Paul has some good ideas but he is naive about human nature. Just because we leave them alone does not mean they will leave us alone.
Do you honestly think that hitler and japan would have stopped with europe and the south pacific if we had done nothing in WWII? There is evil in the world and it is out to conquer good. That is the struggle that is the human race. It will never stop as long as humans exist on this planet.
You either act from strength, build a buffer around yourself, and keep evil away or you get overrun. Only the strong survive.
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:23amI agree .. we have all the resources we need here in the USA. Other countries do not want us there “defending” them. That’s a laugh anyway .. we are “defending” the wallets of the Fed. Ron Paul says abolish the Fed and bring our troops home. Let‘s build our country up and stop rebuilding places like Iraq and soon Iran if we don’t get Obama out and keep progressives like Mit, Newt, Rick, Michelle .. etc. Ron Paul knows what is good for the USA just like you and I !!
RON PAUL 2012
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:27am@LORDCHAMP
Report Post »Leave them alone .. does not mean no preemptive strikes if needed .. if they come for us .. we f them up. Paul is saying we do not need to play Police. Do not think he is going to shut the borders and wait for an attack .. that .. I agree with you .. is stupid. Paul’s policy is to quit meddling in other countries affairs and filling the pockets of the Fed in the mean time. Paul would be a GREAT leader !!!
pwd
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:27am…or we could use the strategy of the rest of the Republican lineup and just nuke the crap out of Russia before they have the chance to do anything to us. Solid strategy.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:17pm@LORDCHAMP: The USA has enough nuclear missiles to destroy every country on the planet a hundred times over.
No one is EVER going to over-run us unless we intentionally run ourselves economically into the ground and then can no longer truly defend ourselves. Which is what we are doing right now by stationing ourselves everywhere across the globe.
Let’s just say Russia is a bully. Do we need to go all the way over to HIS yard and scream in HIS face in order to prove we are strong and powerful? No. We quietly wait for him to make a mistake, and then smack the crap out of him. Swiftly. He won’t even know what happened until after his cities stop glowing.
Every other country would learn from Russia’s mistake. We’d only have to do it once. (More)
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:22pm@ATECHGEEK
Report Post »I agree .. we have all the resources we need here in the USA. Other countries do not want us there “defending” them
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That is an effin, neolib, Paulist lie. Say it again and again, until people start believing it. Brainwash the sheeple. Go ask the South Koreans if they don’t want us to defend them. Do you want another “killing fields” replay in countries like South Korea? Oh, that’s right. You don’t give a d@mn… until it’s at your doorstep, lamebrain Kool-Aid drinker.
CptStubbing
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:03pmAre you kidding Kryptonite, South Korea has twice the population of North Korea, they are more advanced and better trained in every way. They would easily overtake North Korea in a heartbeat, and North Korea would have very little to say about it. That being said the only reason that North Korea is in power still today is because of American presence in South Korea. Well why is that do you ask? Let me tell you. China backs North Korea, not because North Korea has anything to offer, they back North Korea, because we back South Korea. China doesn’t like us having military bases that close to their border. Would we be okay with Chinese military bases that housed over 22,000 Chinese troops in Mexico? Of course not. If we told China we were pulling our bases out of South Korea, and in exchange would they agree to stop supporting South Korea, or even just depose Kim Jong Ill they would in a heartbeat just to get us out of that region.
Report Post »pwd
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 1:21pmIf you all think that preemptive war is such a great idea then let’s jump all in. Let’s attack everyone we see as a threat in any way to the United States. That’s essentially what you are advocating.
Our foreign policy is seriously flawed. Dr. Paul is NOT an isolationist. There are countries who’s citizens want us there protecting them, and countries that don’t want us there. We need to reassess those alliances. 900+ bases in 130+ countries worldwide is asinine. All that’s doing is making America flat broke.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:06pm@CPTSTUBBING
Are you kidding Kryptonite, South Korea has twice the population of North Korea, they are more advanced and better trained in every way
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More advanced and better trained thanks to us. North Korea is a puppet state and you admit that, so any war in the region would involve China. To think that China would pull out of North Korea if we pulled out of South Korea is beyond naive. You don’t understand communism, do you? China invaded Tibet and wiped it of its national identity. They divided Korea, but were able to conquer only the north, and you can bet your bippy they want a reunited communist Korea, just like they gained in Vietnam.
What is wrong with you Paulists? You are out of touch with reality. That is why I have labeled you a cult.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:14pm@kryptonite
1. “That is an effin, neolib, Paulist lie.”
2.”Go ask the South Koreans if they don’t want us to defend them.”
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1. Funny you guys resort to the same tactics as the libs, when a good point is made, and it is hard to come up with a
meaningful response…….call names….
2. I’m sure there are some countries that want us there, but just like our domestic welfare system (which i’m sure you hate,
and I would have to agree with you there) they have become dependant on us, and we are falling apart financiallay because of it.
Also like welfare, when the one is taking the handout, they are then under the thumb of the country handing it out. Ask any person
Report Post »dependant on welfare if they would like to get rid of it…NOPE. And itreally has to be a pain for Isreal to be under our thumb,
and have to come to us and ask if it is okay to protect themselves. That does more harm than good, for them.
kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 3:21pm@BALLOT_BOX_REVOLUTION
Funny you guys resort to the same tactics as the libs, when a good point is made, and it is hard to come up with a
meaningful response…….call names….
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OK, I apologize for the “effin.” The rest is a fair description of who you are and what you are doing. And I didn’t just “call names.” I proved you wrong. Israel wants us to have their back. It’s not submission or subjugation a la Islam. We are buddies, so to speak, but Paulists want to distort the nature of our friendship.
You Paulists are helping libs portray America as a dictatorial empire that is out to invade and control other nations with a clenched fist. Sorry, but that p- me off.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:13pm@Kryptonite
How is it you speak about God and portray yourself as a holy roller then come cursing and insulting at those who disagree with you? That’s not of God…
“You Paulists are helping libs portray America as a dictatorial empire that is out to invade and control other nations with a clenched fist. Sorry, but that p- me off.”
So you are saying Progressives don’t want to control the world as Glenn Beck has shown and do so by financial and military means?
As for Israel let’s here there own words, not yours. Dore Gold fmr Israeli ambassador to UN
GOLD: That is precisely the point. Israel never asked the United States to risk the lives of American troops to defend it. We don’t want to be West Germany in the Cold War. We don’t want to be South Korea with American troops deployed along the demilitarized zone. There are people today who are suggesting that Israel should get out of that great strategic buffer that protects it – the Jordan Valley – and put NATO forces there, put the 82nd Airborne there. And we are complemented by the thought, but we don’t want that to happen. We don’t want American troops or any other troops defending Israel. We want to fulfill the doctrine of the founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, of self-reliance – that Israel defends itself BY ITSELF. And what we ask for from the United States is diplomatic support so we can maintain that position.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxxBuNWKgZQ
Report Post »pwd
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:15pm@kryptonite
We “Paulists” don’t believe that we should be policing the world…and maybe we do have an optimistic view that we should be leveraging diplomacy to a greater extent. Unfortunately, you neo-cons are just like the bullies in the school yard who demand that everyone obey your will or get beat up. You will never get everyone to obey your will, just as the school yard bully couldn’t. What you are advocating is that we beat up the biggest kid in the school yard because he looked at us the wrong way and we assume that he is a bully.
Another perspective on this is when the Homeland Security put those of us that are former military, gun owning, states rights advocates on an elevated watch list. Are we a threat? We speak out against the liberties the federal government has taken, should the federal government preemptively jail us? Maybe we should be sent to internment camps like the Japanese were during WWII? Maybe we should just be assassinated by executive order because we disagree with the direction this and previous administrations have taken us. All because we “might” do something harmful in the future?
Our Founding Fathers clearly told us that getting embroiled in foreign affairs would do significant harm to this country. They were correct.
Welcome to 1984 and Minority Report all rolled into one. Pathetic.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:35amwow, russia is scary.
Report Post »semihardrock
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:34amObama and The Left (Communists) will ALWAYS run to the excuse…..”We (US) did it to ourselves”
Report Post »When in REALITY…..THEY DID IT TO US!
Thevoice
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:33amSeeing as what we have today as leadership and backbone ..Between Obama and what I saw last night .Looks like the only chance we got is to have Rockey go back and fight the big Russian ….
Report Post »tmanter
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:34amI must break You.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:33amWhy doesn’t Putin just tell Barry to surrender. The delicate fingered, gigantic earred, most transparent, professional apologizing, vacation taking, rug kneeling, deeply bowing, Tax increasing, real job spurning, illegal loving, 53% hating, POS in the whitehouse, will pold like a cheap suitcase.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:30pmSpot on.
Report Post »MikeinIdaho
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:29amMore BS from the BS capital of eastern Europe. But watch and see. Obama will cave, as usual and kiss Medvedev’s butt. although it seems to me, the threat by Russia is against Europe, not us. The missiles will protect Europe from Iranian missiles. Maybe Europe ought to wake up and install the missiles themselves and leave us out of it!
Report Post »JRook
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:36amWhat is the surprise. It is the height of arrogance to think the US can do whatever it wants around Russia and think they will not respond. This system is nothing more than another Federal welfare plan for the military industrial complex.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:36amDidn’t Obama cancel the missile defense in Europe … very early into his Presidency? Obama making the world less safe since 2009.
TEA!
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:28amRight-on. Time to heat up the old cold war again–it will create more jobs and greater stability in the world. Occupy that you panty-waist, over-indulged, out of work college brats.
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:28pmI like it, gunney. sir, can we tell em we have ICBMs aimed at Moscow?
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:28amI just don‘t think I’ll fit under the desk this time arround. CARRY ON McDUFF
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:35amBeen There , Done That
I will be on the couch , with a good book, and a cold Sam Adams. Turns out the desk won’t save me.
Report Post »don young
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:27amObama you just made J,F.K. roll over in his grave.
Report Post »sdranger
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:49pmYou do know that the Cuban missle crisis was Russia‘s response to the US putting Nuke missles in Turkey don’t you? You do know that it stopped because we told Russia we would remove those missles from Turkey don’t you? You do know that we already had our Polaris and ICBM‘s made and ready and didn’t need the Turkey missles anymore, right?
These games have been played throughout history and they will never stop. Only the winners wright the history books.
But on the other hand if you think long term… the biggest Islamic nation on earth in 20 years will be Russia. Just food for thought.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 2:53pm@SDRANGER
You do know that the Cuban missle crisis was Russia‘s response to the US putting Nuke missles in Turkey don’t you?
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Au contraire. Russia was responding to Kennedy’s weakness, as evidenced in the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, followed by his non-response to the building of the Berlin Wall. The stupid lib was forced to grow a pair by impending doom — just like Clinton and Obama with Saddam and Ahmednutjob, respectively (well, Hussein is still a Muslim wuss-puss).
=> “…Khrushchev finally agreed to withdraw the missiles, bombers, and nuclear weapons after being convinced that the U.S. was preparing to launch a massive bombing and invasion of Cuba… [S]uch U.S. military operations were within 48-72 hours of being launched when Khrushchev publicly said the missiles would be withdrawn. There was a last minute understanding that Jupiter missiles would probably be withdrawn LATER from Turkey if Soviet missiles were first withdrawn from Cuba. But imminent U.S. military action was what convinced Khrushchev that missiles had to be withdrawn.” [emphasis added] “Mind-Sets and Missiles: A First Hand Account of the Cuban Missile Crisis” http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/people.cfm?authorID=734
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:26am“Russian concerns” are we would remove the threat that Russia holds over Europe by neutralizing their nuclear strike capability. Build the shield and let the Russians spend themselves back to where they lost the cold war.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:24amCool – history is repeating itself, but much quicker than I had ever anticipated. 20 years – figured it would be more like 50.
Oh, the corrupt nature of non and non-traditional Americans will forever be disheartening.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:33amFirst, the guy is just giving speaches to rally support. Second, let ‘em put there missles there, who cares?
Report Post »tmanter
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:43amYep, right after he opened up the middle east for business. What are they cooking?
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 12:58pmI don’t particularly care, except for the fact the last time we went thru this, it cost us an arm and a leg. But, since we’re down on appendages, I suppose this time the reds might eventually gain the upper hand.
Nobody stays on top forever.
Report Post »Brad from Texas
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:19amNow Obama with capitulate, in order to further his weakening of the United States of America.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:19am(Sarcasm totally intentional…
“Oh thank you Mr Obama for once again demonstrating the utter futility of your insane actions on the international diplomacy tables where you leave the US completely vunlerable to a pack of boy scouts why you burn the nation to the ground…”
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:24amThe administration’s policy makes perfect sense, if you are apologetic for America’s actions throughout history and are making reparations.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:27amI missed your sarcasm disclaimer ……………..
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