Russian Lawmakers Prepare For Major Crackdown on Abortion
- Posted on May 30, 2011 at 10:50pm by
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MOSCOW (AP) — Russia‘s Orthodox Church teamed with Conservative parliamentarians Monday to push legislation that would radically restrict abortions in a nation struggling to cope with one of the world’s lowest birthrates.
The legislation would ban free abortions at government-run clinics and prohibit the sale of the morning-after pill without a prescription, said Yelena Mizulina, who heads a parliamentary committee on families, women and children.
She added that abortion for a married woman would also require the permission of her spouse, while teenage girls would need their parents’ consent. If the legislation is passed, a week’s waiting period would also be introduced so women could consider their decision to terminate their pregnancy, Mizulina said.
During the time of the Soviet Union, abortion laws were liberal, and unrestricted termination of pregnancy became virtually the only method of family planning. Sex education was frowned upon.
Russia‘s abortion rates are still among the world’s highest, contributing to a fertility rate of only 1.4 children per woman – far below the 2.1 needed to maintain the existing population. The rate has become a serious concern for Russia as it fights to stem a steep population decline
Mizulina said she wants to see public debate on abortions before the bill is submitted to parliament, an apparent attempt to build support after similar legislation stalled last year.
A bill proposed in late 2010 called for the criminal prosecution of doctors who end late-term pregnancies, but it faced government opposition and was never put up for a vote.
The effort to restrict abortions has strong backing from the Russian Orthodox Church, which has sought a more muscular role in society in recent years. It counts more than 100 million Russians in a population of 143 million as its congregation, although polls show that only about 5 percent of Russians are observant.
“I hope that very soon we will live in a Russia without abortions,” church spokesman Vsevolod Chaplin said at Monday’s presentation.
According to a United Nations survey in 2004, Russia had the world’s highest abortion rate: 53.7 per 100 women.
Figures from the Russian Health Ministry suggest the rate may have declined in recent years, though it remains high: In 2009, there were 74 abortions for every 100 births in Russia, a significant drop in comparison with 169 abortions per 100 births in 2000.
The total number of abortions recorded by the Health Ministry in 2009 reached nearly 1.3 million.
Mizulina claims that the official statistics do not include pregnancies terminated at private clinics, or those stopped by morning-after pills, and the true number might be closer to 6 million.
She also proposed that the law be changed to allow women to leave unwanted children at orphanages anonymously without risking criminal prosecution for child abandonment.
It was unclear how much support the anti-abortion measures would receive in parliament.
Natalya Karpovich, a lawmaker with the dominant pro-Kremlin party United Russia, who is expecting her fifth child, said she supported stricter regulation of abortions. But she said banning the procedure in Russia was unrealistic and would only lead to more children whose parents were unwilling or unable to care for them.
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A1955Rosie
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:23amI don’t believe in abortions but the morning after pill? THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED. It’s no different than a douche hostile to sperm.
Report Post »illuminoddy
Posted on June 1, 2011 at 2:14amNo, the “Morning After” pill is an Abortion Pill
it works to kill a Sperm-Fertilized Egg
its not a Spermicide
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 1, 2011 at 4:53amThere’s no objective empirically good, useful, or compelling reason why any women should ever be forced to carry to term and have any child she is not prepared to take care of and does not desire to have (which are synonymous as wanting to have a child should be a prerequisite to having and raising one, and certainly is to being a good parent) whenever she gets pregnant, let alone why, even if you don’t believe abortion is necessary for a just and utility maximizing society, the government is justified in intervening to ban no less the choices of private individuals which have no effect upon you as a result of their choice; offended though you may be at their choice, being offended alone is no a sufficient warrant to deprive a citizen of the United States of liberty.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:18amAbortions are evil. I hope and pray that someday there will be no more. Woe to you who hurt the little ones (said our lord Jesus Christ). And you wonder why we have so much trouble in this once great country. No prayer in public school, porn everywhere, abortions 24-7 ect…..
Report Post »Voronin
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:10amNo surprise here. Jughashvili (Stalin) enacted a decree like this during his reign as General Secretary in the Soviet Union. Russia is dealing with a diminishing population at an alarming rate. This is merely a measure seen by the Siloviki as a way to combat that. They’ve already had this thing called Conception Day, where people are encouraged and even given incentives to stay home from work that day and have it off.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:00amBirth rates in the USA have fallen to an all time low too. We will not sustain the population we have.
Over the past decade America’s population has grown by 9.7%, to 309m. Minorities accounted for 92% of that growth.
Report Post »John 3:16
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:14amThis would be great news but the motive is all wrong. Real men and women do not set their sights on killing innocent babies. WOW where are all the trolls? That‘s right they’re still sleeping in mama’s basement: It’s dark down there and even darker when they are there.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 6:49amWomen in America have become way too selfish to give up killing their babies if having them is inconvenient. In Russia, the women have figured out if they don’t give it away like an alley cat in heat, they will likely not have to kill a child. Sadly in America, they haven’t learned magic of keeping ones knees together.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:09amPlease, stop blaming it all on the women. YES they are making a choice, yes, they are at fault here, but not at fault all alone! This is not a problem with women “keeping ones knees together”…. BOTH men and women are to blame for this legalized murder. Legalized abortion did not happen without the support of powerful men behind it, and it stays legal for the same reasons. Men like this quick fix and the ability to kill off their mistake just as much as the women do.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:09amI don’t remember the part where they ask the father of the child his opinion on killing the child. I don‘t remember the part where he’s even legally in the equation. Much like a parent of a child receiving an abortion, he won’t even be notified. So it IS the woman’s decision, all hers. As far as the powerful Democrat men that keep it alive, if women didn’t have the right to vote, and vote as they do, there would no longer be a Democratic Party. So in every way, it’s their fault.
Report Post »Red1492
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 10:00amI‘m surprised you haven’t been banned from posting here. What a fascist troll you are Teddrunk.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 10:39amRed, troll?…actually I’ve been here for a long time…..if you were here a lot, you’d know that. Yet I don’t remember you. Typical liberal attack, can’t attack an argument based on logic, so it’s time for name calling. Alinsky rules trained I see.
Report Post »christianUSA
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 5:51amSo the Russians have seen what a big mistake Liberal abortion laws are and now are coming to their senses while our Libs are running to this now know disastrous end with head in the sand, encouraging across the board US people to abortion, a so called right which was never put up for a national vote or legislated! NO thank progressive.
Report Post »christianUSA
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 5:49amSo the Russians have seen what a big mistake Liberal abortion laws are and now are coming to their senses while our Libs are running to this now know disastrous end with head in the sand, encouraging across the board US people to end the life of the unborn, a so called right which was never put up for a national vote or legislated! NO thank progressive.
Report Post »BobParker2003
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 5:30amImagine a world where children were honored. Imagine a world where families were honored when the male and the female got, what is that dirty word, “married?” Imagine a world where people understood what the Lord expects and people follow it by honoring not just children and marriage but actually honored families that stayed together. Imagine.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:03amNice image! Love that dream…..
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 4:12amyES lots of Russians will be very happy about there being lots more Russians, and less murdered babies!
Report Post »Wish Americans had a stronger sence of nationalality,and NO aborted babies ! BUT Here were more righties-lefties, black,and panthers, and nazies,latino’s mexicans,christians ,ect any title or discription that seperates us ! not Americans ,Thats why I think our future will more mirror Yugoslavia’s, with the cival-religious- geo-political-racial ,moral, man it’s like we have more to fight about than anyone in history ! And everyday less and less in comon!
1stAmendment
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 2:34amA new York city women went to an abortion clinic to have her baby aborted,
Report Post »Two weeks later she recieved a check from crime stoppers!
the hawk
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 2:01amthrere’s also a large nazi movement real nationism, extreamly unfriendly to any forigners, at the fall of the
Report Post »Sov, Union the people could not afford children, so for about 10 years their birth rate was way low.
Now causing shortage of war age able men! They realize the Muslum states that use to be USSR usbekastan ,ect
have them surrounded! This is more to do with stablizing a country ARMY than Morals !
riseandshine
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 2:22amTrue…but I bet there are alot of Russians who welcome the change for moral reasons.
Report Post »hipconservative
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:04amFunny, it turns out people (even unborn ones) have value after all! Liberals constantly devalue human beings yet they refuse to see the consequences of this position, moral or practical. What they do time and time again is simply change their “tactics” for a desired result –in this case they have finally realized people need to be born in order to populate a country (duh!) so are reversing their stance on abortion. Even those who are pro-choice must be beginning to realize the games being played with human fetuses is disgusting.
Report Post »glennrocks
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:46amDid you know Glenn Beck is speaking at a July 2nd celebration in Driggs, Idaho? (Just around the mountain from Jackson Hole.) It’s all free look up the details on his website. We can all be there. Wear a t-shirt with your screen name on it. lol
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:16amIf I was able to get there in a day’s drive, I’d do it. A little too far for me, coming from the Chicago area.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:33amthanks for ther info. I’m all the way on the east coast but if I can I will. it would be awesome.Used to be a trucker so the drive is not an issue.It’s the money. thanks for nothing ovomit.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:21amHow about no abortions period!
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:36amThat would be awesome. Not in this life, sad to say.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:06amIn this country it should probably be up to the States,…same with gay marriage.That’s constitutional government. Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional. That’s the way i see it anyway
Report Post »jp2feminist
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:02amThis is what you call a Pandora’s Box. Birth control gave men and women the ability to “choose” and now, they have little interest in choosing life. So sad.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:51pmI guess we ARE going commie after all!
Report Post »psadie
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:16pmRussia’s population is only 145 million. They are in BIG trouble. The same is happening with China and their one child policy. They kill or abort the female babies because boys are favored (India does the same thing). Now they have 32 million more men than women who will never marry. This will be devastating for decades to come. China already has a labor problem with not enough people to man the factories. There are over 42million abortions in the world at present. They are all beginning to see the light on Communism and Socialism–it doesn’t work!!! And neither does abortion.
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:12pmso now the government says it is not ok to have abortions as their means of birth control, they leagalized it back in 1920? and it is covered by their state run medical plan, hum sounds a little like the POTUS’s health plan…. who came up with this wonderful plan?
Report Post »DR4SOUL
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:06pmIronic that at a time the Democrats are heralding the absolute necessity of “choice,” the polite term for murdering babies, better known as Abortion, the Russians have finally got the message that children are vital to the perpetuation of their culture and society. They know that Muslim families are producing children at a rate when compared to the present Russian birth rate that will facilitate at Muslim majority in just a few generations. We better get the same message . . . and soon, if we want our grandchildren to enjoy the kind of America we have enjoyed. Not to mention our freedoms.
Report Post »i want the truth
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:20pmI have to agree on your abortion term. The left doesn’t want to see it for what it is. Killing a baby is a choice for some? really? It is what it is.
Report Post »I still do not understand how a Christian can vote for someone who stands behind Abortion. Thou Shall Not Kill. Is ONE of the 10 Commandments. Killing or voting for someone that thinks is okay to kill an unborn child? Christians or any other religion should wake up and see Abortion for what it really is. KILLING!!
godlovinmom
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:59pmRomney is pro-abortion…pro homosexual marriage, DOES NOT have my vote!
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:32amnaa…Romney just changes with the political climate in order to get elected…He was pro-choice to get elected Governor of Massachusetts. He isn’t my choice either
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:48amThat’s another thing I like about Ron Paul….He is ardently pro-life…He delivered babies for a living before he entered politics….and he doesn’t blow in wind.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:27ami agree with the most here. but would like to point out that the #1 is not thou shall not kill. It is iether # 4/5/6 depending on the Judeo-Christian denomination, and the translation is thou shall not murder.
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:05pmthe united states would be in the same place except all the illegals are making up the difference, they have over run us…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:37pmExactly .. the thing is many young couples here are struggling and put off having families or limit it to what they feel they can afford to raise .. that is what we did .. the illegals and the welfare class don’t care each child is MORE money not less.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:04pmGood news!
Report Post »Hungry_i
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:03amYup, and the knee-jerk anti-Russian Beckbots heads are exploding.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 10:55pmWho would have thought – socially conservative lawmakers in Russia?
Perhaps send some this way???
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 10:57pmIt’s good to see that abortion is wrong where ever it is.
Report Post »Whitey4West
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 10:54pmstarting to sound like a lot of these countries that have screwed up in the past (socialism, abortion, etc…)are turning the table, and now we’re heading in their direction…
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:09pmI hope very soon we live in an America without abortions!…what part of killing babies do these pro choice people not get?
Report Post »Creestof
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:34pm“One of the worlds lowest birthrates”
Too bad this does not refer to the USA.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:35pmKilling off your future generations is not a good idea??? Imagine that .. lucky for us we have illegals who have a higher birthrate than the people who are paying to support them.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2009054552_illegals15.html
Perhaps instead of sending illegals back to Mexico they should go to Russia .. language is not a problem because they refuse to learn English .. they can ‘refuse to learn Russian. Good luck with that.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:47pmHey, I’ll take less abortions any way they come. But I’d rather see it happen because these people had a change of heart and not just because they need a boost in population.
Report Post »rcw_68
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:12amI do not see this as a good thing. Maybe I should rephrase that. I do not see this as a conservative movement in Russia. After what I just saw on youtube, they could be using this to gear up for war in 10 to 15 years. And with Putin coming back into office, He needs the population to carry out his evil plans. WAAHAAHAA!
Report Post »D0ntTread0nMe
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:23amI agree whitey, hopefully America can pick up on the trend and also start to flow in the right direction before it’s too late and we have to completely re-write the constitution.
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angelcat
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:24amI agree with both you and Godlovinmom. Obama wants our country to go towards that which other countries have tried, found didn’t work, and are now moving away from. If he is so very smart, why isn’t he smart enough to see what is happening, or is it that he doesn’t care?
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:38amYou are right. What I don’t get is that these children are real people that they and we are killing everyday! Why don’t we get this indisputable fact! Are we like this godless nation, Yes they have religion now but the are still a godless nation. Are we a godless nation too? Yes we have true Christians and religion and religious people here, but does that make us a God fearing nation. We cannot ask God to bless this nation while we as a nation are killing the most innocent or our citizens, the unborn children. Jesus loved children and I know that we have thumbed our fists at Him and dared Him to act against us. We the people need to rise up and once and for all ban all abortions altogether, BEFORE we even dar call our nation a God fearing Nation, “…One Nation under God…” To perform an abortion should be murder in the eyes of the Law and should be deal with as a Federal crime! No more excuses, no more blaming others, no more looking the other way and pretending it is not our problem. O’Lord please help us, your people, we need you to restore us to Yourself as a “One Nation under God”. help raise us up and protect these innocent children from harm and death. Only by Your Spirit will we be able to do this.Without Your spirit our guilt in this crime against You grows beyond measure, tens maybe hundreds of millions of innocent lifes have been sacificed to Satan through this abortion, and the blood guilt is upon all of us, HELP!
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Report Post »nomorpc4me
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:03amIn Russia, one out of every two pregnancies end in abortion. They now see that they are de-breeding themselves out of existence.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:20amthis may sound crass but think for a miute. the libs are marxist. the commies in russia are marxist. they were for the extrication of religeon. the libs in America are for the same. the russian commies are for eugenics thus aborton. the libs in America are for the same. because of the totalitarian nature of russia we can see the resulrts. so for those of us who don’t want to murder our young : raise them. let the leftist murder thiers and the problem will solve itse4lf. it’s the libertarian in me that says not to force your will on others with one stipulation. you do not harm others. granted they are harming thier youmg/murdering. but attrition by thier oun hands is to me more palitable that open war . and war is what they advocate.
in the senario of war innocent people DIE. I say let them thin thier oun herds out.
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:31amSounds like a place that the United States could go if we do not change course.
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Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 2:15am@Creestof
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:34pm
“One of the worlds lowest birthrates”
Too bad this does not refer to the USA.
Report Post »~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I was thinking more along the lines of radical Islamic Muslims.
biohazard23
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 4:30amAnd this is what the Libs want to do to us. No thanks.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:05amNow ain’t that interesting. Russia is making strides in being a more moral nation than the United States?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:19amGood for them, now if we can get the US to
Report Post »follow suit.
frodis
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:41amMen who get women pregnant here should have a choice in the matter. Takes two to tango. Oh but it’s her body. But I can’t eat a happy meal with salt in San Francisco.
Report Post »Edct
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 7:51amToo bad this immoral country has allowed so many women to committ murder and kill innocent children and has turned it’s back on morality and God…and God will judge every one who has killed and the liberal whore politicians for their actions.
Report Post »insight
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:10am@RCW
Report Post »My thoughts exactly. 18 yrs from now you will have the perfectly molded commie soldier. Putin’s new army (once he regains control)
riaf-decnalab
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 9:34amFor a few years now, the only people where there is an increase in population are the Muslims and the Mexicans. Throughout Europe and the United States, these are the only ones who have grown in population. They‘ve ignored Planned Parenthood’s mantra and followed God’s. Most Mexicans are devout Catholics (but that’s changing) while the Muslims see the atrocity too. All others are at a 2.0 or less population growth. Margaret Sanger is seeing her dream completed except that instead of the weeds (Sanger’s words) being sorted out, the weeds (her words) are growing and plentiful. Isn‘t it interesting how God can uses man’ own sin to teach him a lesson. We have the choice to choose good but in many cases ignore it.
Report Post »joyfulmom
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 10:06amLife is beautiful…a miracle! But, the most important thing is everlasting life in heaven that only can come through Jesus Christ! For all have sinned and fallen short, we’ve all lied, stolen, said God’s name in vain, hated, (murdered), lusted in our heart, (adultary) and before a Holy and Just God, we deserve hell, BUT, Jesus took the punishment that we deserve on Himself and died on a cross for our sins that if we repent, put our faith and trust in Him, He will give us a new life and life everlasting in the life to come…REPENT or you too will perish…in prayer, fall on your knees and talk to the Savoiur and cry out for mercy to bring you faith and repentance in Him.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 10:34am.
I remember when Pravda told government lies, and our press told the truth.
Now, they are reversed.
Russia has discovered abortion is not the high moral ground now also.
Maybe someday, we’ll all be moving to Russia, after America craps on it’s culture and values.
Report Post »Okay, the KGB is still there, but what would you call the TSA?
Who would have thought?
BJColter Country Music Iconoclast
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 10:46amAnd here our politicians back down trembling with the attempted defunding of the abortuary Planned Parenthood. Time for a change, here’s a song about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXvRDmM5Zx4
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 10:48amthebarbarian: Now that sort of reasoning is just barbaric? lol Anyone that has ever read a book or two on Soviet Russia realizes that the Marxist movement was a Jewish inspired movement. Now that Jews don’t reign in Russia any longer they are far more apt to become a Christian nation than lets say the USA eventhough America was founded as a Christian nation.
Today the US is under a Jewish Apartheid therefore we rot and decay. Russia is becoming a more free and Chrsitian nation where Christian values will be encoruaged and esteemed.. In America Chrisitan values are mocked ridiculed and persecuted.. Maybe after giving it a little thought you too will see the common denominator? It’s not really rocket science ya know?
ps: You were absolutey right about Marxism destroying the Christian churches in Russia and wherever it reigns but you may find it interesting to know that the Synagogues faired much better under Marxism.. Interesting eh?
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 11:22amCome Russia….Step it up! You are the last place on earth that can save the White race!
Stop aborting Whtie babies! Start a Lebensborn!!!!!
Report Post »ChildOfTheKing
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 11:23amgodlovinmom:
Report Post »Evil begats evil. Righteousness begats righteousness. So, the only way to proprogate evil is to SNUFF OUT RIGHTEOUSNESS. In other words, if righteousness would rise up
techengineer11
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 11:29amDeleted my post so fast? Damn that must be some sort of Blaze record? Are you really that afraid of my words sir?
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 11:37amThe Big Pickle: I don’t know if you jest or not but Russia may be our last hope simply because the White man in America is subjugated mind, body and spirit as a result of the 24/7 Propaganda targeted for his destruction. I can’t stress enough that unless we can gain access to a/the Media and have a Media that promotes our self interest then we are simply doomed.
I warn you people.. Do not hate Russia.. Russia from 1917-1980s may have been our mortal enemy even though we allied in WW2 with them.. lol But not today.. They are not Marxist and there is a big Nationalist movement going on in Russia today.. A Russia for Russians.. Of course our Jewish run Media wants us to hate Russia.. Don’t be deceived.. They are far more like us than the people running DC and NYC today.
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:05pm@Techengineer
I can assure you that I am NOT mocking you. The under 18 years of age population in America is over 50 percent Non White. That means the next breeding generation in America will be a majority NonWhite and they are also the people that have the most children per couple. Russia/Latvia/Estonia etc.. are the LAST hope for the White Race. All White people need to start to become concerned as White people are now only 8 percent of the world population and all the other races are breeding expodentially.
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independentvoteril
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:10pmWe could send them some ILLEGALS they like to have 6 kids each and don’t have abortions.. however.. they government is expected to support the kids, provide free education, food, money etc.. and there would be less for American tax payers to support.. a win win..
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 1:22pmindependentvoteril: Funny but you know what not many nations can print money like we can in the US.. In other words they can’t get away with all of the monkey business like we have for so long here in America.
Just stop and consider what America would be like today if we couldn’t borrow 100s of Billions of dollars.. Consider the difficult choices which would be forced upon us.
Report Post »Paradiddle69
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 5:48pmWhitey4west: Good point! They lived through 70 years of this failed, demonic form of government that the affirmative-action-appointee-in-chief wants to bring here…We are trading places with China, Russia, &c…
Report Post »RJO
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 8:14pmWe are heading down the very same road in the United States. So very, very sad that so called “intelligent” people can not only allow but push this barbarism on a society.
Many years from now, future generations will look back on this period and shake their heads in amazement…at least those who were able to live do to a pro-life mother/father…grandfather/grandmother…great-grandfather/great-grandmother……
What a waste……
Ya think some people will be held accountable for the deaths of millions upon millions?
Justified and rationalized genocide.
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