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Russian Team Drilling Toward 20-Million-Year-Old Antarctic Lake Reportedly Reaches Goal

Russian Team Drilling Toward Lake Vostok Reportedly Reached Surface

(Image: Wired)

Last week, we reported that radio contact had been lost between U.S. colleagues and the Russian team drilling toward a 20-million-year-old lake buried under Antarctic ice. Time was running out for the team to reach the sub-glacial Lake Vostok before they had to leave due to weather conditions.

It has been reported that the team reached the lake on Sunday and lack of radio communication was attributed to them working around the clock to meet their deadline. Wired reports that teams have been trying to reach Lake Vostok for the past 20 years. Just last year, a team missed its goal because the conditions conducive for drilling on the continent fall within a very short time-frame.

But, Ria Novosti, a Russian news agency, reports that the surface of the lake has been reached at 3,768 meters. The agency doesn’t name the source of this information, simply calling it a “scientific source.”

According to Gizmodo, the kerosene that was keeping the hole open during drilling — the hole was kept small and would have frozen back together during the process without it — will be taken out and the water from the pristine lake will rise up into the hole. The water will freeze there and will be extracted by researchers next season. This method of removing samples of the lake’s water was employed to avoid contamination from equipment.

The Daily Mail reports that Professor John Priscu from Montana State University, who said last week that they hadn’t had contact with the drill team in several days, clarified stating that the team was most likely just working:

He said: “I can assure you that they are not lost or out of contact. I never said the Russians were lost.”

The scientific community is particularly interested in reviewing samples from the lake to learn more about earlier life on Earth and because some extreme conditions found here could be compared to areas in space like Jupiter’s moon, Europa. Wired reports that the oxygen levels of this lake are 50 times more than those on Earth’s surface and any life found in the lake would be considered an extremophile, being able to survive in “high pressure, constant cold, low-nutrient input, high oxygen concentration and an absence of sunlight.”

Comments (69)

  • Tea-Party-Amercan
    Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:21pm

    Come on, I expect more from the Blaze than junk science! I stoped reading after it said 20-Million-Year-Old lake. We all know the earth is only about 7000 years old.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:50pm

      To TEA-PARTY-AMERCAN:
      Something forces me think that you were joking when you said that “we all know the earth is only about 7000 years old.”
      If not, let me tell you something.
      In this particular blog, many share your belief, with the only difference that others think the earth is 6,000 years old.
      Where that [ridiculous] number came from? The Bible doesn’t say it directly.
      Instead, it offers you a genealogy list from Adam to Jesus, which, even though with a lot of gaps, gives you – if you tirelessly count all generations – approximately 4,000 years. Plus 2,000 years after Jesus. Thus – 6,000 years.
      There is a problem, though.
      No human was witnessing the Earth creation.
      No human was witnessing appearance of Adam and Eva.
      No human was witnessing their first copulation, Eva’s pregnancy and the birth of their first children, Cain (not the best human) and Abel. Then the Bible says that they had more children (no specific number, no specific years of life), both males and females, but didn’t explain from whom their first daughter got pregnant.
      So, in short, the Bible turns out to be a very unreliable source as for the age of the Earth.

      On the other hand, the modern science has many very much reliable and well proven measurement methods that allow to determine the age of planets, including that of the Earth.
      Recall that there were found many skeletons of h0m0 erectus and h0m0 sapiens whose age was determined with satisfactory precision as much longer than th

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  • Michael61
    Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:32am

    “Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” – Richard Feynman

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:56pm

      It’s interesting: you brought up a humorous phrase allegedly said by one of the ten greatest physicists of all time, as if Feynman seriously diminished importance and great achievements of science.
      But he did not.
      Thus, your quote looks like a fraud… unless you clearly indicate that it’s just a kind of humor scientists may allow themselves.

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    • shogun459
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:19pm

      Got it, ‘TRUE science, is the belief that even the best experts, Don’t Know Everything.’
      ergo, ‘If you or the “experts” think that the self same experts know all there is to know your guilty of “ignorance of arrogance”.

      Eastern;
      “I do not know” is the beginning of wisdom.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:43pm

      To Shogun459 (btw., do you speak Japanese?):
      ““I do not know” is the beginning of wisdom” – only when and if one wants to learn and know. -:)
      In this particular blog many participants have shown unwillingness to acknowledge that they don’t know something; instead, they tried to convince others that their (others’) knowledge, as based on science, is false.

      Report Post » Constantine Ivanov  
    • Tea-Party-Amercan
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:33pm

      Amen!

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  • Constantine Ivanov
    Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:50am

    To TWOBYFOUR;
    Sir (forgive me if you are a Lady), you are a type of people I was/am/always will be (as long as the rest of my life is) happy to discuss things. It would be a pleasure even to disagree with you on some topics: I laud intellectuality. Thank you.

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  • NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:32pm

    Very interesting to be sure, but what does that say about the maps that exist showing Antarctica with no ice?
    As far as time lines go, who knows what the first ‘Heaven and Earth’ was like or wow long it existed before being destroyed by the fall of Lucifer?
    Since we are on it, let’s look at some other unproven theories: Evolution–thought up by an atheist., Ice age–thought up by the atheist mentor of the evolution guy. Both trying to negate the existence of God, good try but doesn’t work.
    Here is my new all time favorite: The speed of light is not constant. It can be proven that the speed of light is slowing down. What does this mean? Simply that the universe is dying and that all good things come to an end
    Check them out boys and girls, makes for a fun evening.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:00am

      Wait. Antarctica has ice?

      I thought it had all melted away.

      It has 2.2 MILES of it?! Surely, that can;t be the case. Let’s ask ManBearPig AlGore to find out how this can be.

      I’ll bet he says the water is found under the ice because the earth down there is hot… several mi-heheheheh-llion degrees.

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    • shogun459
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:22pm

      Just a linguistic note, the actors accent is heavy.
      “I’ll be your Hucklebearer.”
      A Hucklebearer is an old term for Pal bearer or one that will bury you.

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  • BLAlRD
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:16pm

    Testing
    h­o­m­o erectus
    h­o­­m­o sapiens

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    • BLAlRD
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:20pm

      You just need to learn how to beat word filters. Works anywhere that allows Alt codes.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:20pm

      You seem to be lucky (or TheBlaze finally did something to avoid being scoffed).
      My “h0m0s” failed three times. That’s why I eventually used zeroes instead of “o”.

      Report Post » Constantine Ivanov  
    • BLAlRD
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:31pm

      Type the word that is filtered that you want to appear normally, then put the cursor in the middle of the word somewhere and hold ALT then type 0173. This creates an invisible character in the middle of the word and the word filter reads ho and mo as two different words though it appears together as in ho­mo sapiens. If on a laptop, you’ll need to use the numlock button to get to the numbers on the right side of the keyboard.

      Word filters are a good thing, but just like internet filters, sometimes good intentions get filtered. This little trick is there for when something obviously not related to bad words needs to be said. Hope this helps.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:41pm

      To BLALRD:
      So, your “o”s are just Alt+111, and TheBlaze swallows it? Thanks.

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    • kurtnut
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:53am

      Blalrd

      Neat trick. How’d you figure that one out?

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  • 997vanilla
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:38pm

    The technical aspects sound really interesting and hopefully we’ll hear more about what they find, but I have a question: If no one has had contact with this lake for millions of years, how do we know that the oxygen levels are 50 times higher than what we have today?

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:17pm

      “how do we know that the oxygen levels are 50 times higher”?
      You definitely don’t. Scientists might know: there are some scientific measurement methods not every average common person is aware of.

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    • marion
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:26pm

      I bet there is some kind of plant that is making it, living off carbon dioxide!

      Now, in order to save it, we all have to increase our CO2 output!

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  • Turin
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:37pm

    Okay, quite a bit of scientists believe that the earth is 4-5 billion years old. This lake is 20 million years old. and they know this how? LOL Obviously, it’s an OoMA figure. heh

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:14pm

      Never heard of radioactive methods?
      It’s OK to be an obscurantist…to certain extent. But one has to k now limits in being such…just to not be scoffed.
      Cannibals exist even today (in Congo, most likely), but does it mean everybody has to be a primitive?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Constantine, the age of the lake… it’s a good question. As I already noted, it may have been an estimate (probably based on stratification in the area and the thickness of the ice sheet) and it has been presumed by reporters to be a known/certified variable.

      No need to call people names (albeit obliquely) because they ask legitimate questions.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:18am

      It’s circuluar reasoning…this rock is 20 million years old. How do you know? Because we found a dinosaur bone at that level….. This dinosaur bone is 20 million years old. how do you know? Because we found it at a layer of rock that’s 20 million years old.

      I read a research paper one time that said if something is buried under water for a year, it appears MUCH, MUCH older than it really is. Ummm, like Noah’s Flood?

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  • Constantine Ivanov
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:17pm

    To TheBlaze:
    Believe me or not, but you have no reason whatsoever to cut the word H0M0 from such terms as H0M0 erectus and H0M0 sapiens.
    Erasing these parts of scientific terminology is the same idiocy as accusing of racism scientists who use the term “black hole.”
    It seems the idiotic political correctness brought to all of us an epidemic of severe mental disorder.

    P.S. You see: I found a way to write what I want anyway, but it only proves the stupidity I talked about

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  • Constantine Ivanov
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:00pm

    To TheBlaze:
    Believe me or not, but you have no reason whatsoever to cut the word “****” from such terms as **** erectus and **** sapiens.
    Erasing these parts of scientific terminology is the same idiocy as accusing of racism scientists who use the term “black hole.”
    It seems the idiotic political correctness brought to all of us an epidemic of severe mental disorder.

    Report Post » Constantine Ivanov  
    • RebelYell1862
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:08pm

      “constantine ivanov” You’re just another a-hole that believes that humans evolved from apes. It’s a myth and has no concrete proof to back it up. If we evolved, why hasn’t the other apes evolved? You’re just a sad Godless liberal trying to fill the void in your life with your false God “science”. Stop hating and get to church.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:27pm

      To REBELYELL1862:
      1. I have nothing to do with Liberasts; I am Conservative.
      2. You are a very well UNEDUCATED individual: you evidently have never read the following information:
      “When the bones of two early humans were found in 1967 near Kibish, Ethiopia, they were thought to be 130,000 years old. A few years ago, researchers found 154,000- to 160,000-year-old human bones at Herto, Ethiopia. Now, a new study of the 1967 fossil site indicates the earliest known members of our species, **** sapiens, roamed Africa about 195,000 years ago.”

      This has NOTHING to do with the Evolution theory.
      But if you prefer to be a medieval obscurantist, it’s OK with me: it doesn’t bother me at all.
      I just dare remind you that even the Pope acknowledged and confirmed many scientific discoveries. But obviously it’s not for you. Sleep well in your dark room, dear.

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  • jingoistic.patriot
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:55pm

    Could be they ran into Alien vs. Predator down there, or maybe…..the Thing. Oh wait, the Thing is in the White House. Sorry

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  • janmil200
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:29pm

    This is a fascinating story! So glad the divers are ok. Will look forward to follow up next year!

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  • TROONORTH
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:16pm

    Sure. They were working too hard to use the radio. Sure. They were so tired that they failed to contact their base at pre-arranged times. Sure. They just forgot to contact their controllers at regularly scheduled times designed for their own safety. Entirely believable.

    There is something fishy going on in Antarctica. We know a cover-up when we smell one and this one stinks!!

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    • TROONORTH
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:52am

      Before anyone takes the above too seriously, I was only kidding people.

      Report Post » TROONORTH  
  • DD313
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:11pm

    Perhaps the reason the lake exists is that it contains a type of antifreeze. Could those Russians be trying to drill a vodka well?

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:10pm

      Did you manage to do something laudable in your life, you cheapo?
      Why are you scorching Russians who managed to do something really outstanding?
      Is it your arrogance or greed?
      Why not to try to shut your chewing device up at least temporarily?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:59pm

      Constantine, it’s a harmless humor, not need to get your underwear into a wad.

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  • goodgrubguy
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:59pm

    jackbauer2012
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:57pm
    Or perhaps there will be a rapidly spreading parasite that the Russians will unknowingly carry back to their Country to spread to the world.

    Don’t worry Jack…If they can survive Yakof Smirnof, they can survive anything!

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  • Tuark
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:42pm

    How can this lake be 20 million years old when Antarctica has been clear of ice within human history?

    http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:12pm

      The ice-free areas were coastal strips after the HCO (holocene climatic optimum) period, then they gradually gained cover. The interior had ice cover for at least 1 million years since the ice age started. I am not sure about the 20my figure, it may be simply an assumption and presented as a certainty by a mistake, you prolly know how sloppy journalist are.

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    • Dick Parker
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:16pm

      bingo!

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  • FreeUsAll
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:18pm

    I‘m glad to know that they’re ok. I still wonder why we paid Russians to do the dirty work, as we have many Alaskans that can brave the cold and have the know-how. Maybe the Russians weren’t union… save some money.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:17pm

      The Russki’s team is trained for Antarctic conditions and the lake is in the Russian sector.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:25am

      @ Twobyfour
      Just a tidbit: USA does not recognize any nation’s “sector” in Antarctica. Also, I wonder how Russia got all of the Soviet Union’s claimed sector (I assume it did). Why not some to Ukraine or Belarus, Estonia, etc?

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    • DD313
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:44am

      There is no American or Russian Sector in Antarctica. When the Antarctic Treaty was signed in 1959, all claims to the continent were, well, frozen. Both the USA and the USSR signed with the understanding that they might make territorial claims in the future, presumably based on the right of discovery. Lake Vostok, named for the Soviet scientific station fortuitously built on top of it, is in the sector claimed by Australia. What is interesting is the fact that it is one of the last major geographical features on earth to be discovered in the traditional sense. Global mapping such as Google Earth lets anyone see what’s down there. The lake sticks out like a sore thumb as a large flat area in the otherwise bumpy icecap around it.

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  • six6six
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:07pm

    Wait. I thought the earth was only 6000 years old!

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:28pm

      It’s simple: those who counted 6,000 years thought that 1 their year equals at least 1,000,000 our years.

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    • wedgeii
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:59pm

      douchebag. The Earth is millions of years old. Humans have only been on it for thousands of years. Maybe read the Bible and not listen to false profits.

      Report Post » wedgeii  
    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:19pm

      To WedgeII:
      you are not only rude and despicable, but also with neither brain nor knowledge:
      1. Neither SIX6SIX nor myself have expressed any doubt as for the age of the Earth;
      2. The age of the Earth is not “millions years” as you said, but 4.54 billion years.
      So, before you dare call somebody “douche bag”, ask your psychiatrist what mental home would be appropriate for you.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:31pm

      To WEDGEII:
      Sorry, I forgot to reply to your statement regarding the age of human beings.
      **** erectus lived 1.3 to 1.8 million years ago.
      **** sapiens first began to evolve nearly 200,000 years ago.
      I doubt you know such words at all, though.

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    • Vixvenom
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:07pm

      Did The Blaze censor those scientific names or is that you trying to be funny? Hope it’s you, if not…just sad.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:15pm

      Constantine, the age of earth is estimated at 4.5 billion years. It’s a guess. No one knows for sure. There estimates are generally based on several assumptions and certain variables that are presumed to be known.

      In other words, it’s a model that has probably a high degree of correspondence with reality, but we can’t be certain. For instance, one of the variables is an assumption that planets have been formed from an accretion disc. I don’t want to go into a discourse why I think that is a hogwash, let me just state that no one has yet found any example of such a planetary formation in action anywhere where we hubbled about.

      My beef with official science is that it regularly forgets to mention that the whole edifice is based on nothing but models of reality and that it believes that some aspects are already beyond falsification. That is the reason why today’s science reminds me more of a church than of a method of inquiry.

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  • jackbauer2012
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:52pm

    Now we know what the cause of the Earths destruction will be on 12-21-12. Some weird prehistoric biological Human and dinosaur killing disease.

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    • jackbauer2012
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:57pm

      Or perhaps there will be a rapidly spreading parasite that the Russians will unknowingly carry back to their Country to spread to the world.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:22pm

      If it is dino-killing bug, then it is unlikely it would do us any harm. I hope you’re not one of the lizard people, then you may be actually doomed.

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  • itsmyfirstday
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:45pm

    and how much did the US taxpayers pay the Russians to do this??

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:20pm

      How much did the US taxpayers pay the Russians to send Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space, and the first artificial satellite, Sputnik 1, into outer space?
      Zilch. ZERO.
      Why are you so arrogant?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:25pm

      I don’t get where US taxpayers are entering the picture. Did I miss something? Russian team in a Russian sector, people!

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:33pm

      Constantine, more like ignorance than arrogance. I’ll bet you a fiver.

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    • GFM2012
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Constantine, I sense considerable nationalist pride in your failed country. Shall I point out that the U.S. has not left astronauts to die in fiery re-entry mistakes due to your substandard technology and engineering? And you have no access to any information whatsoever to either refute or support your ridiculous statement that U.S. taxpayers paid “zilch, zero” in support of the USSR space program. How would you know? Talk about arrogance! You’re still teaching your schoolchildren that the U.S. manned moon landings were “faked.” How stupid (and arrogant) can you possibly get? How pathetic.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:33pm

      GFM2012, he could point out Apollo1 and 2 space shuttle accidents. Space exploration carries substantial risks. Your argument is emotionally loaded.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:36am

      To GFM2012:
      You “sense considerable nationalist pride in your failed country…” Wow! How sensitive you are!
      The problem is that I simply defended Russians (sic! not the country, aka the Russian government!) from undeserved attacks by overly self-loving Americans who expressed disdain for a scientific achievement only because it was made by Russians. It was as “nationalist” as any America-born American would defend a compatriot. What’s wrong with that?
      I am an American citizen since long ago, but why should I disdain Russians if they do something good? It’s enough that I criticize them every day for many bad things.

      “Shall I point out…” you continued. Not, you shall not. That’s simple. It was not the topic.

      “you have no access to any information..” – how you know? Any supporting facts?

      “You’re still teaching your schoolchildren that the U.S. manned moon landings were “faked.”” – what a rubbish you emanated! And you still insist you are talking facts? Wow!

      “How stupid (and arrogant) can you possibly get? How pathetic.” Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!
      Such a cesspool of [fill the blank]
      Frankly, I usually avoid discussing anything with people of your kind – it’s hopeless and a complete waste of my precious time.

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  • Tickdog
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:39pm

    they may uncover The Thing…..

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  • inferno
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:33pm

    The results from examining the ice and or water from the underground lake are aforegone conclusion. The published results will lead the public to believe global warming is for real. Why ?
    Certain scientists may lack integrity, but they aren’t stupid. They know their reaearch is funded by certain governments that want certain results. The proper outcome of such scientific studies, means “job secutity” for these scientists.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:30pm

      Presumptions. Russians are not that keen to jump on the AGW bandwagon. They got their lessons from Lysenkoism and other ideologically based quackery, so they are sort of immunized.

      Report Post » Twobyfour  
  • 3monkeysmomma
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:29pm

    ….and they were doing this why?

    Report Post » 3monkeysmomma  
    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:42pm

      Because they get a kick out of people like you asking the same dum question.

      The other reason is that those that know the past can predict the future.

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  • Susan
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:03pm

    I don’t really understand how they keep the kerosene from being absorbed into the ice. It just seems like next year when they go to retrieve the ice from this lake they’ll find traces of kerosene in it.

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    • ASimpleGenius
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 4:58pm

      The freezing point of kerosene is around 40 below zero! It remains warm enough in that area that it won’t freeze while the water around it will. Also, as long as the kerosene is below 32 degrees it won’t melt the ice around it, either.

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  • pap pap
    Posted on February 6, 2012 at 3:45pm

    Wow. I wonder how they knew it was there. Maybe an old fisherman from 20 million years ago remembered it.

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