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S.E. Cupp Clashes with Anti-Gun Advocate on Fiery MSNBC Panel

S.E. Cupp Unleashes on Anti Gun Advocate Dan Gross on MSNBC Panel

The Blaze and GBTV's S.E. Cupp battles with Dan Gross on MSNBC's Now with Alex Wagner.

The panel on MSNBC’s “Now with Alex Wagner” got caught up in a heated argument about gun control Thursday afternoon, which eventually turned into a contentious one-on-one debate between The Blaze and GBTV’s S.E. Cupp and Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

The discussion began civilly enough about the proposed legislation in New York that would “encode” shell casings on bullets so that law enforcement could track down guns more easily. Pro-gun groups like the National Rifle Association (NRA) have strongly opposed the measure.

Wagner accused the NRA and other second Amendment advocates of fiercely opposing any measure to regulate guns, even when they are reasonable.

“It seems like a fairly good idea and yet there has been a huge amount of resistance to this,” she said.

Then Cupp, who the host referred to as a “gun owner” in air quotes, got started. She was able to hold her own against the other panelists who all appeared to be in support of the law.

“Well this is a really silly piece of legislation and here is why,” Cupp explained. “The idea is you track the bullet or the shell casing back to the gun and then you track the gun back to the owner because, ostensibly, the owner has registered his gun. Most criminals don’t do that.”

She also argued that the legislation would be extremely expensive for gun manufacturers and the cost would eventually be passed onto the purchasers of firearms.

Then things began to get a little heated. Gross disputed Cupp’s cost analysis and asked her, “At what cost is the savior [sic] of human lives?”

“This is an industry that at all costs wants to protect its profits and it does so at the expense of human lives,” Gross continued.

“No, it wants to protect the Second Amendment which is under assault,” Cupp snapped back.

At this, Gross accused Cupp of using “extremist rhetoric” and said opponents of the shell casing legislation are suffering from “anti-government paranoia.”

“It would be paranoia if it’s not happening. It’s happening,” Cupp said bluntly.

She went on to say that after instances of gun violence, such as the killings of Trayvon Martin or the shooting of Rep. Gabriel Giffords, there is “huge hysteria and paranoia” about guns by the anti-gun lobby and a push to ban guns comes always follows.

Gross took exception to Cupp’s assertion saying, “I don’t accept that… . Show me one word that’s ever come out of my mouth… .”

“I don’t follow everything you say,” Cupp interrupted.

Doubling down, Gross told Cupp that there is “nobody that’s anti-gun…we are anti-killing people.”

“People kill people, guns don’t kill people,” Cupp said.

“And usually people with guns,” Gross replied, getting in the last word.

Watch the tense interaction here:

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  • True American66
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:03pm

    Ever notice how the liberals are like a gang…..4 against 1?…They can’t never make it a fair fight ’cause they don’t have a common sense leg to stand on…..S.E. still took them all!!!

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:12pm

      So SE isnt supporting Romney? Romney is anti gun.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:18pm

      Ever watched “The Five”?

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    • Thomas
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:19pm

      If we are going to take guns out of civilians hands lets also take guns from of cops and security in Washington. Let Washington politicians trust in the good will of their fellow man.

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:25pm

      Mutiny – Shouldn’t you be on your knees praying to Paul about now?

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    • Dr.MantisToboggan
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:25pm

      Liberals bother me as much as the nexy but but Fox does the same thing. If you watch the Five you’ll see 4 on 1 everyday. Usually that 1 liberal is Bob Beckel – a delusional Bob Beckel.

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    • SONOFNANYE-HI
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:33pm

      I just love how they always try to separate the term ARM into two issues. I believe our founders use of the term included everything to do with ARMS and bullets are included in the use of the word. Not Gun Control. It;s Arms Control.

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    • socialism.rocks
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:35pm

      kinda like fox news… they never really put on any liberals… do they

      second admendment is a states right a militia right.of each state.. not a individual right

      but republicans are anti states right…when it comes to guns…

      fox news is just plays the victim all day every-day all day they take video’s out of full context plays the victim while demonizing the opposition… there is no journalism nor real conservative policy on fox news
      poor christians poor rich poor conservatives everyone dont like us..wah wah wah
      they are the white race hustlers the party of poor victoomhood- lmao ten times worse then the liberal news
      its getting so old..

      poor conservatives “We will fix every issue” brag brag brag
      we’ve never fixed one issue=truth
      ha ha ha losers

      socialism.rocks  
    • Teufel Hunden
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:35pm

      BOB_R_OATHKEEPER: “Mutiny – Shouldn’t you be on your knees praying to Paul about now?”

      When he’s on his knees, praying is probably the last thing he’s doing, unless it‘s praying he don’t get caught! Semper fi!

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:36pm

      I love how as they propose to control every aspect of our guns ,then they say this is not gun control,people kill more people with blunt instruments so lets ban bats ,lamps,2by4′s,hammers ,wrenches;;ex……..more people die from knives so let them in your kitchen.;;?these people are briandead.!!!!!

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:40pm

      My goodness… stick to the facts. All the gun legislation in the world will NEVER… I repeat… NEVER stop criminals from getting guns. All this legislation does is keep innocent people unarmed. Who does a corrupt government want to stop? Innocent people… who stops a corrupt government from their takeover? Innocent people…That’s all this is about. S.E. had it correct, criminals NEVER, EVER abide by the rules, they will get guns, bring them to “gun free zones” and commit crimes with any means possible. Look at every city where guns are “outlawed”… the highest area of murders. India, guns are illegal, yet they have the highest murder by firearms in the world. Al Communist countries made firearms illegal to innocent citizens and hundreds of millions of people have been killed by their governments. Criminals KILL people and innocent people need to protect themselves from these sick, twisted killers!

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    • Blazebanned
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:44pm

      I dare any libturd to try and take my guns, and or ammo, please try it.Im sure all the crimanals out there will gladly register their guns, and buy tagged ammo to use in them…..
      This proves once more that liberalism is a mental disorder….

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:48pm

      LOL Devil Dog! Semper Fi brother!

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:50pm

      This is unbelievable:….. I was reading an article and it mentioned “ Zombie Max Ammo”, I thought it was a joke, but just for s and giggles i googled it and found that it is real, Hornady zombie max…. LOL….. Check out the video….. Hilarious.

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:53pm

      Actually here is the article i was reading…… http://www.naturalnews.com/036159_zombies_sociopaths_deniers.html

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    • turkey13
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:55pm

      Ttrace the bullit to the gun – what a joke. Librels just don’t get it! Crooks don’t buy gun that can be traced back to them – they might have to shoot a store owner. Under Bill Clinton, when all these laws were passed he dreamed that the only people that would have guns were the police and all the nice thugs around the country would turn in the guns – Ha-Ha.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:59pm

      @bob I am a fake oathkeeper

      If you were a oath keeper you would be not supporting a guy that created Obamacare, supports the NDAA, the Patriot Act, and gun control.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:59pm

      @teu

      Same goes for you.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:17pm

      @Socialism.Rocks: From the Library of Congress; Amendment II

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      What part don’t you get?

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:21pm

      Ask the leftists how ‘gun control’ is working in Syria. they’ll say “great”; just like it’s supposed to; the government forces have the guns; the populace is subjugated. I keep my firearms (aka guns) locked in a safe; you can hear them yelling and making a commotion to get out and start shooting…scary!!

      The left wants to do away with ALL the Constitutional Rights and enslave the American People. Gun control arguments are BS; It’s all about subjugating the population; look at Detroit, and Chicago; great gun control towns that are ‘shoot ’em up city’……

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    • seanscythe
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:47pm

      Funny they needed 3 libs to to against S.E. and she still put it in their face and they lied non-stop.

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    • IONNES
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:49pm

      @Socialism Rocks
      So your position is that the second amendment is specifically about government militias?
      A group of men who were just involved in armed rebellion against their government only wanted the government to have arms?
      Are you serious?

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:50pm

      @Al J: “A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of the state…” The Second Amendment has a context. That’s the part a lot of conservatives seem to not get.

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    • seanscythe
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:50pm

      Why no bans on cars? More people are killed by car wrecks everyday than guns.

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    • Papadoc
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:51pm

      Socialism.Rocks is typical of the left… spouts stuff off with no regard for reality, under the assumption that people won’t look it up. The problem is that while he gets away with it with lazy clueless liberals who swallow everything they are told, the right tends to know he’s full of it and can often even quote the Constitution and show him a liar. Obama has already started down this road, but it’s going to get a lot worse. Call them out on their lies and misquotes EVERY time so that the sheep will be less likely to follow.

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    • seanscythe
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:53pm

      If I was S.E. to the black women I would have responded “You mean sort of like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson on Race?” That would have pissed her off.

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:53pm

      @Bum Thrower: actually, from the data I’ve seen, it would seem that nations with the most strict gun regulations actually have the least amount of gun-related deaths. The U.S., as a whole, is way up on the list. Nations like the U.K. and Japan’s numbers are miniscule in comparison.

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    • JohnnyRaiden
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:56pm

      SocialismRocks~ What? No? The 2nd amendment isn’t a states right issue…..Unless the entire constitution is a states right issue. What? It isn’t? Didn’t think so.

      Hornady Zombie Max ammo~ Stupid gimmicky name designed to sell to stupid people or those who want to collect funky ammo. The weird thing about the ammo? It’s match grade and cheap. Getting around the silly name, it’s great ammunition.

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    • seanscythe
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:57pm

      I was so mad when I found out that if a police officer pulls me over they can take my ammo from my guns. They are supposed to have a reason to do this but my friend said some female cop with a stick up her butt, started unloading his gun that he carries for concealed carry. She didn’t take them but she said she could and only removed the rounds from the Mags.

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    • JohnnyRaiden
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:00pm

      Maprog~ The U.K had spikes in knife crime and death. The death rate from guns did drop, but knife death filled in that void.

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    • jmresler
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:00pm

      This is directed to “SOCIALISM.ROCKS”. First, why is gun control a left or right issue? There has to be a psychology about it because it’s only second to free speech, free association, freedom of religion, etc. Those are not left or right issues. Many liberal Catholics are now fighting vociferously against the HHS mandate, initiated by the most far left president this country has unfortunately had? So does Catholic = Right wing? Think not. Secondly, if you studied even a mote of law or history you would know that as long as 100 years ago the constitutional law on this subject was settled. The 2nd amendment is a self defense right as well as a states defense right. If you doubt this, review Heller v. DC, or more recently McDonald v. Chicago. The 2nd amendment has now been *incorporated* meaning applicable across all states to the individual. So why do leftists push so hard against this? It can’t be against self defense because who would be foolish enough to advocate against that? It has to be something else and this is why gun owners of both political leanings (yes, the guy that sits next to me owns lots of guns and he’s a very liberal guy) wonder what you guys/gals really want? I think the 2nd amendment is analogous to the last chapter of the book “Blackhawk Down”. When Somali’s were asked if they supported democracy they said YES! When asked if they’d let another tribe vote they said NO! What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Sorry for the runon sentence

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    • TrueColours
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:03pm

      4 to 1 is the first thing that caught my eye. [Well S.E. did actually first. . .4 to 1 was second but I digress] She did a great job defending the 2nd amendment in this incredibly sandbag environment.

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    • GunFan
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:04pm

      It will come down to policing up every single case you fire and destroying it so no one can get a hold of them. Criminals will just go to a gun range and grab some cases go commit a crime and toss some cases around. They will come and drag you out of your house and then you will be in jail and broke trying to defend your self. And after you win if you win you will have to fight to get your guns back if they have not destroyed them already. Its a stupid idea anyway you look at it. The stolen guns in crimes are being fired by stupid criminals.

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    • Inlandmar2
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:07pm

      @ Social – Before you spout off, you need to look up the definition of militia. “Every able bodied man between 18 and 70” Sounds like an individual right to me…..also to the Supreme Court.

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:11pm

      @Johnny: good rebuttal. Glad to see someone on here who’s not just shouting. I’ll look into it and get back.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:15pm

      It doesn’t appear that Romney believes in gun control according to 2012 report:

      2012 Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney on Gun Control. … I support the Second Amendment as one of the most basic and fundamental rights of every American. … exercises the right to keep and bear arms must do so lawfully and properly.

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:20pm

      The Second Amendment was written before the government had a Free Standing Army and it depended on the populace to provide personal firearms since there was no United States Army to really speak of. After the Articles of Confederation were replaced with the Constitution in 1791 the founding fathers did not want to create another England.

      It was the King’s Army going to Concorde, MA to confiscate Arms cached there that started the Revolution. And the second amendment was created to deal with that fact, so that if our Government needed to be restarted by the PEOPLE then they would have the tools to do that.

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:24pm

      @Johnny: it’s an effective point, and from the quick research I was able to do, knife crime is significant in the U.K. It does pose some quesions, tho. You imply that knife crime has shot up as a result of more strict gun laws. I wasn’t able to verify tha claim. Even if a correlation could be made, you’d still have to prove the cusal relatonship. Secondly, there’s a valid question to be asked that if gun laws inthe U.K were more lax, how many of these knife crimes WOULD be gun crimes? Furthermore, how many MORE gun crimes would there be? It’s hypothetical, but questions worth asking all the same.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:30pm

      @one

      The real Romney on gun control.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYTdM9b5F4

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Ygw9CQ9po

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:32pm

      Romney is not anti-gun, you goof. When he is elected and he does nothing to alter gun ownership or gun laws for the worse, I will come back and expect your apology.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:34pm

      I dont need a machine gun to protect me from a robber. I need a machine gun to keep the government from pushing itself on me. A police officer or a member of the army is going to be a lot less willing to kick in someone door illegally and push their will on someone who might have a machine gun or RPG.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:37pm

      @letus

      You cannot say that. You cannot tell the future. We can only go on the Romney’s past which has been anti gun.

      Romney on gun laws “I believe they protect us and help provide for our safety.”

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:38pm

      It take 4 people to shut that BIG mouth of beckel, which should be shut. Why do the anti gun people make such a big deal of things, if you do like guns don’t buy one…. It is proven that guns will always be in the hands of criminals, gun laws only hurt the good people…… But the way that guy arguing with SE is a little f a g g e t POS.

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    • FortySixand2
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:39pm

      Cold Dead Hands

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:39pm

      Take away guns and only outlaws will have guns. If they can’t get a gun, they’ll use a knife.
      If they can’t get a knife, it’ll be a hammer, after that you call it. My personal favorite is a very sharp pencil, and if that‘s not available I’d use a ball point pen.
      The TSA took away nail files, nail clippers a comb with hair lift tines on it ( I shutter what a weapon that would make, ouch, ouch) Dam fools. ( Re-read the first 9 words again)

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:40pm

      @MAPROG – When the Brits disarmed their citizens the knife an blunt object death toll rose dramatically. Brits also get arrested for defending themselves from home invaders. Stupid country.

      In Australia the death toll of innocents went up 300%.

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    • obfuscatenot
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:44pm

      Uhh, cars kill more people than guns ever will. When will the lefty’s want to ban cars? Just give em a chance….

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:52pm

      That was an incredibly stupid comment. Don‘t tell me you don’t watch Foxnews. Same exact thing but the other way around.

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    • Quack Addict
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:00pm

      I’m sorry, but give me more Michelle Malkin and less S.E. Cupp.

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    • allencp78
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:09pm

      @socialism rocks

      You say the second amendment is a states rights to form a militia. Please site your source for this interpretation, or better yet, please site something from James Madison, George Mason, or any of the other founders that crafted the language that says they intended for this amendment to be interpreted the way you say it should be.

      Go ahead, I’ll wait.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:15pm

      For the guy who pulled up 10 year old info, so can I. When Obama was Sen.in Illinois, he also voted to eliminate guns.
      Now, for current news, the NRA supports Romney over Obama:: ===================

      The NRA leadership is throwing its wholehearted support behind Republican Mitt Romney, who once incurred its ire by supporting stiff gun restrictions as governor of Massachusetts. Despite that history, it sees Romney as a vastly better gamble than President Obama, although Obama has done almost nothing to restrict gun use.

      “We believe Mitt Romney would do a better job than President Obama,” said Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the NRA, which claims nearly 4 million members. “We believe that any of the candidates on the Republican side would be better on the 2nd Amendment” — the right to bear arms.

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    • JohnnyRaiden
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Maprog~ You can also look at the other extreme of the U.K Switzerland or Israel. Gun ownership is virtually mandatory for the Swiss men. Israel is somewhat a bad example ,but most of the gun crime isn‘t committed by Israeli’s. A fact though is that it’s easier to survive a gunshot wound than a stabbing. Proving the gun laws increased knife attacks would be almost impossible, but it’s generally believed to be the case. Something else of interest is that even with the gun bans, gun crime is still a serious issue.

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    • claymoremacm
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:16pm

      Gee,I wonder if guns are outlawed in Syria?

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:35pm

      Why do conservatives insist on appearing in ‘loaded’ MSM situations? I’ll tell you why, because they’re pretty much idiots like most Blaze posters.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:43pm

      To “Socialism Rocks”: First of all, there is no mention of the states in the 2nd Amendment. In reality, the 2nd Amendment does not grant ANYONE a “right” as all rights are retained by the people whether specified or not. The 2nd Amendment DOES specify that the FEDERAL government shall make no law abridging the specific right of the people to protect themselves by force of arms…ANY laws respecting the control of arms is therefore relegated to the STATES and in turn the people of those states. If a STATE CONSTITUTION also follows the example of the FEDERAL CONSTITUTION then ALL rights are retained by the people. Only one state does not have a specific article concerning arms control and that is California…All other states reserve only a few controls over firearms in their Constitutions…so therefore, by a strict interpretation of these Constitutions, the PEOPLE have almost UNRESTRICTED RIGHTS to own and use firearms….hopefully against socialist pigs like yourself, if necessary!

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:05pm

      As gun sales continue to skyrocket, violent crime rates continue to decline.

      Down 4% last year. Been on a steady decline for years now.

      The evidence is clear………..More guns in the hands of honest citizens = less violent crimes.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:06pm

      @Al J Zira
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:17pm

      @Socialism.Rocks: From the Library of Congress; Amendment II

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      What part don’t you get
      ***
      Bill Clinton told these libs it “all depends on what the meaning of ‘IS’ is!“ Show them something without the word ”IS” in it and they are totally befuddled!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:16pm

      I have not read any Bill relating to this story but, I guaranty that some place in a Bill, related to this subject, will outlaw revolvers (wheel guns) because one does not have to “police the copper” before leaving the scene of a shooting.

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    • DeltaCharlieCain
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:18pm

      @SOCIALISM.ROCKS & @MAPROG

      The Second Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      What part of that do you not understand? How about “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances,” does that apply to individuals or the State? How about “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated…,” does that apply to individuals or the State?

      So what context are we missing? No matter how you put it, it still says “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

      Thomas Jefferson:

      “No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms [within his own lands].”

      Sam Adams:

      “And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions.”

      youtu

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    • Mikev5
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:23pm

      Mutiny

      F–o-f-f

      No candidate has everything we want but Obummer must go

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    • woodyb
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:06pm

      THOMAS< don't forget to take the guns away from the Secret Service officers assigned to protect the pretender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Tacitus Talks
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:08pm

      Socialism Rocks, that is why Dewey wanted progressive education in America. He realized and educated American would never support Socialism, so you would have to “dumb them down”. The 2nd Amendment is not a “States” right, because the Rights of the States are in the 10th Amendment. The militia was originally the responsibility of a town. Every able bodied man was considered a member of the militia. And under English Common law, a free man was an ARMED MAN. That is why a person that was “ESQUIRE” – free man – had a sword. Under American Common LAW, we are ALL Free men – therefore the right to be armed. I realize you are a public school reject that studied the wonders of the HOPI Indians and their magnificent culture at the expense of learning the grandeur and greatness of Europe, but they wanted to make you a slave and they succeeded. Let me add something that most people don’t know. While I lived in China, there were incidents of criminals having shootouts with police. Criminals will get guns EVEN when guns are illegal. The purpose of removing guns is NEVER to protect society from crime, it is to protect a criminal government from an honest and free society. When the government only has the arms, then they can mow down their people with impunity, like Tianamen Square.

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    • garbagecanlogic
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:53pm

      Mutiny: if you are going to make an absurb statement, back it up. Romney is pro 2nd
      Amendment.

      Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

      The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
      The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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    • semperfidelis2076
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:59pm

      Every firearm already has a signature/stamp. Its called the firing pin. Once that pin makes contact with the shell/casing (or fired) it is already signed to that legal gun owner. Now for those that don’t have the firearm legally their fingerprints usually work considering criminals already are finger printed for previous crimes. For the first time/no criminal background gun purchaser on the black market there is ultra violet ways to detect carbon on the hands, clothes and skin. Now we need MICRO signatures for this? Its not needed. Its just another intrusive way for officials or should i say PUBLIC SERVANTS to get one up on us. I took an oath on the alter of god to defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic and so did all military, police, politicians and all public servants.

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    • RM32
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 10:02pm

      Here goes another nudge. Hats off S.E. Cupp! You showed a panel of none gun owners to shut up. They make it sound like they are trying to catch bad guys. Lets just regulate the metals and plastics the guns are made of because they can leave blisters :(

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 10:03pm

      @DeltaCharlie: I wish you wouldn’t combine your response to Socialism.rocks with me. We are saying very different things. In fact, I woul say that I don‘t agree with Socialism’s claim that the Second Amendment is a state’s right issue either. My point is that the Second Amendmen INTENTIONALLY has the word MILITIA in it for a reason

      As for citing writings of the Founders: that’s all fine and good, but their personal writings have NO legal authority on this nation, only the Constitution and what it says has does. their writings may ad insight into their personal position, but they were also only a select few of the Founders. Lastly, the statement about having the right to have arms on their land: that could literally mean THEIR land for all we know. When dealing with the Second Amendment, we have to go on what was written, and the word “militia” was written.

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 10:20pm

      I aree with redmeat,redmeats an idiot.

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    • 1947
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 10:59pm

      Dan Gross you are a COMMIE

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    • rickc34
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:00pm

      Beckle may have to deal with the other 4 on the 5 but they are f_gs and hags like SE has to deal with

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    • 1947
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:02pm

      Sorry Dan I can see that you are part of the New Obama Commie Paid Program

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:24pm

      @MAProg

      you have just laid out the “living and breathing” view of the constitution. if writings from the founders and original intent means nothing because they were not signed into law. then yes, you can make a law say pretty much whatever you want. all you have to do is change the meanings of words or the understanding of sentence structure.

      this would be worth a read,
      http://www.fff.org/freedom/1095e.asp

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    • black9897
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:49pm

      Sigh. For the last time people. Get it through your head. Gun “control” doesn’t make you “safe” it makes you more vulnerable to attack. Criminals already have the guns, they already use them. They don’t care about ANY law (it’s not magic). Every time gun control is tightened they cheer knowing they can now victimize people much more easily.

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    • eagle275
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:52pm

      @Socialism Rocks – hey slick, why don’t you try to come get my guns? Heeheehee!

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    • eagle275
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 12:09am

      @MAProg

      I am a militia, now come and get’em boy!

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    • chfields62
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:27am

      Truth is to liberals like sunshine is to vampires…

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    • Maji
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:46am

      Maprog,
      First you have to know if you stats are correct that you quote.
      Second you need to know if they are collected and analysed in a corresponding manner.
      Thrid how they are collected and applied.
      Little do people know but UK doesn’t report (or log) crime as the US law enforcement does!!
      “Causation” what triggers recoarding and who does it.
      .The UK frankly isn’t as fastidious on record keeping and recording of incidents as US conterparts.
      In the UK alot of discrestion in given to a “Bobby” on a reporting of a crime.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:16am

      All you people keep thinking that Romney is OK on the 2nd amendment. He thinks it is just for personal protection from criminals and for hunting. He does not believe it is for protection from tyranny from our own government, as he says that he would like to see guns of great lethality banned. Oh, but it is OK, Fox News told me he is the guy this election. You people will not wake up until you have helped to have all our rights stripped from us. You all should be ashamed of your own ignorance.

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    • phil1765
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:01am

      Mutiny
      You are a moron a normal citizen can’t buy a freaking machine gun in the US. Why does a law abiding citizen having a gun bother you anyway? Unless you are breaking into my house or harming my family you have absolutely nothing to fear from one of my weapons. So do tell what exactly do you have against someone legally having a firearm?

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:23am

      Just get a bump-fire stock and you can have a fully automatic rifle and it’s perfectly legal, you just have pay a little more for the stock. Improvise, adapt and overcome.

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:26am

      Bump-Fire Stock video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F8Z5ooMZpY

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    • SShink
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:04am

      I’d love to see Ted Nugent, Wayne LaPierre or another gun rights advocate go up against 4 libs.
      The problem here is not only that they stacked 4 against 1, but that they have a full-time representative from the brady campaign (memorized talking points) up against someone who is not well-versed in the issue.

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    • Old Vermonter
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:16am

      When the Gambino crime family, the Crips, and the Bloods voluntarily turn in their guns, then these Libs can talk to me.

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    • OhioRifleman
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:27am

      @ Old Vermonter

      Add to that list the Latin Kings, MS13, and the Federal Government itself, then I might consider it, but not likely.

      The operative phrase of the 2nd is as follows: “THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.” That is the effective command inside the Second Amendment, the rest of the phrasing is window dressing.

      If you cannot understand that simple phrasing, I have some swampland I would like to sell you…

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    • suttonea76
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:28am

      How stupid was this argument!! So bar codes on shells is going to make investigations that much easier? Horsecrap. Ammo gets stolen along with guns. Ammo also is purchased on the black market without verification of the buyer. This will perpetuate the theft of ammunication and guns since criminals will know what to avoid being the suspect. Remember the Gabby Giffords debate regarding the amount of rounds in a clip? That was garbage too since most able bodied criminals would adapt and bring multiple clip and guns to allow for max firepower. Stupid liberals don‘t understand what an incremental infringement on rights is and they can’t see it coming. The Nazis did the same exact thing over a decade to control the masses. That is the only way to conquer countries nowadays since transparency doesn’t exist and no overtaking of a country can go unnoticed from the globe. A great country of civility and self control exists only when the power rests with the people and those that are selected to speak on their behalf walk lightly and fear the masses. Liberals say that the “99%” is the empowerment of the people but all they are doing is telling government to screw those that produce thus empowering the government. Such a stupid, illogical, ridiculous, futile and hypocritical argument. Would you expect less from a liberal?? Not me!

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    • smokeysmoke
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:35am

      ask yourself why did the samuari take away swords from he peasants… its not the gun… its what you are able to do with the gun… a samuari sword could be just as lethal in the hands of a mad man, but they took the weapons away becuase they wanted the peasants to be dependent on the samuari class, adn be unable to defend themselves… you not having a gun makes you dependent on the feds for your saftey and can never protect yourself..

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    • acovenantinblood
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 9:13am

      The NRA told me he was pro gun? Did they lie? Seriously they did! If they lied to me I’m going to freak out!

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    • SLOWBIDEN
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 9:22am

      look at the picture on top, that dude is looking right a t S.E’s rack. Not that I blame him…..she’s soooooo hot!

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    • caveman74
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:21am

      She is always right. Anyone that hot is always right in my book :D

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    • Leader1776
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:33am

      @WALKINGSHEEP and Dr.MantisToboggan
      Real Time with Bill Maher, the large number of left/progressive media outlets, most journalism departments being left/progressive. For now at least, Americans have the freedom to watch what the want. Not a problem, is it?

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    • hotteamakers
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:36am

      Did Eric Holder Convert The $40Million Of Guns He Gave To Mexican Drug War Lords To This ID Scheme?

      There are millions of firearms that do not have this feature and will become instantly illegal to possess as soon as this law is passed. Every legal gun owner will become an instant criminal. Its a trick because criminals will not register their guns.

      The Zimmerman case is being used by the criminal Left to inject gun control into the campaign like this unconstitutional law. It will fail.

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    • jdtanker
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:50am

      If a person doesn’t have a gun, and they want to kill, they will find something else to kill with. Gun’s have nothing to do with it. It’s just a tool that murderers use. Look at OJ, I’m sure he could have used a gun but he used a knife. She’s 100% right. People kill people, guns don’t. And the government will use this tracking to find out which households are storing guns and ammo.

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    • addie
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:02am

      I am a very big gun advocate and the one argument that everyone fails to bring up in defense of the 2nd amendment is the fact that imagine if they attempted the SAME limits on our first amendment. Imagine if you needed to get a permit to speak freely on the streets. Imagine if religion and speech was only limited to the confinements of your home or a shooting ranges like gun ownership is in many states. Imagine if they said they were going to put a chip in everyone who wants to practice a religion so they may “track the bad guys”

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:04am

      @maprog
      you say conservatives don’t get it. Why did you leave off the part that follows that says the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall NOT be infringed. Key word being PEOPLE, not militia. So yes it does have a context and we conservatives do get it because it is the PEOPLE that may be required to form the Militia and if the PEOPLE have no arms then the militia has no arms. WAKE UP.

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    • subic
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:18am

      Thes poeple think they are so smart. Well, anyone with half a brain knows that criminals use stolen weapons and I’d be willing to bet that the ammo they get their hands on is usually stolen as well. So the ammo and the pistol will not match up.

      That numbnut says that gunmakers profits from peoples lives, pffffft, thats bs, gunmakers profit from americans that enjoy shooting sports, hunting and protecting themselves from the criminals with weapons lifted in a burglary and out of control tyrannical governmnet like we have now.

      This all about controlling the ammo supply. Regulation by 1000 papercuts.

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    • subic
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 12:36pm

      Nice bump fire system for that M&P 15-22 BOB_R….I guess you could overhaul the Ruger 10/22 stock to fit that..Semper Fi till I die!

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    • pnkmdyfld
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:08pm

      So..what is next???? Numbering buckshot? Oh..I can just see it! So, all you need to do is get a shotgun then. Messy. Bad on the furniture. Just cocking the thing will scare the crap out of someone breaking in! It can be sawed off (not legal), but what does it matter when you are protecting your family! Ya know, when that clown said people with guns kill people, it should be known that a Louisville Slugger can kill someone too. So can a 5 pound cast iron frying pan! What then? Ban those too? Will the speed dialer on your phone save you or your families life faster by dialing 911, than a Glock? How many murders have to happen…? No crook registers his gun! That is so stupid! Maybe the reason why they want ‘gun control’ is the same NYC is banned large sodas. TAX MONEY! Think about it… Controls on US…need TAX MONEY! Folks, it’s all about GREED. And, you thought WALL STREET was bad. They really don’t care about human life, never have and never will. Unless they can get more votes from it…

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    • CWPrequired
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:12pm

      Mutiny, at least he’s not a commy!

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    • HumbleMan
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:39pm

      You have to check your brain at the door, to take the liberal side of this argument.

      This is the idiotic idea: Engraving the firing pin of a firearm so that the model and serial number of the firearm is imprinted on primer, so that the empty shell casing can be associated with that particular firearm as “evidence”. (By the way, the engraving process is patented, and so all firearm manufacturers would have to license this patent.)

      1) it’s easy to change a firing pin.
      2) using a metal nail-file, you can obscure the engraving

      That‘s already enough to see why it’s a stupid idea.

      The real purpose is the usual liberal attack plan: to make manufacturing and owning firearms more complicated. The next question of course is:” what about all existing firearms?”

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    • Maji
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:42pm

      I appologise for the bad grammar and mispellings
      if you note the time it was a hard day!!

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    • Crazyotto
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:44pm

      In this case you have an extremely left wing organization run by a gay anti-gun, anti-constitution, gentleman (Dan Gross) who is determined to ban all guns … he will lie and fabricate statisitics in order to get what he wants. It is in the nature of the left to do so. S.E. is a tough nut. I don’t always agree with her but she held her mud against these fanatics …

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:09pm

      Gun control registration[confiscation] in Canada was argued to be a paltry 1 million $ a year program, by the Prog/leftists. Know what it ened up costing ANNUALLY? 1000 times more! That’s right 1000 times more. It was finally ended by the present SANE Conservative admin. Turns out the criminals, who were robbing and murdering, just did not comply. DUH!

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    • kuveha
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:14pm

      As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

      A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

      Right there in black and white the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bare arms. So it is an individual freedom as well as state.

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    • thx1138v2
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:16pm

      “Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” – Mark Twain

      To every rule there is an exception and S.E. Cupp is always exceptional.

      I really like Tom Clancy’s definition of gun control: hitting that at which you are aiming.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:19pm

      CWPRequired, “At least he’s not a Commy.” That is just such a rediculous statement when looking to elect a President. I mean Hitler was not a Commy, would he be OK with you. And before the comments start coming in accusing me of comparing Romney to Hiltler, I am not. I am just showing how ridiculous that statement is. Romney is a big government progressive, pushing the corrupt establishment corporations progressive agendas. If that is what you guys want, big govenment telling you how to live your lives through federal regulations, by all means vote for him, I will not as a matter of principle. I would like any one of you to tell me, with all your wisdom, how you come to the conclusion that Romney can win? Please give me the facts. I would love to hear them.

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    • searay330
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:38pm

      @socialism.rocks…watch

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YY5Rj4cQ50

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    • lillypup
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:01pm

      “socialism rocks”, the second ammendment is about individual rights, not group rights. You and even conservatives are always wrong on the second ammendment. If it were written today with our modern wording it would read:

      ” In order to prevent the military from staging a coup against the civiian government, the citizens must be armed as the last defense of the republic”.

      Unlike todays liberals, the founders were well educated and knew the history or the Roman empire and other failed societies. They knew that powerfull individuals routinely formed their own armies and performed military coups againt the government for their own benefit. The second ammendment was written to prevent this in the USA.

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    • HappyStretchedThin
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:07pm

      @Maprog,
      May I suggest your comparisons miss the mark, and that your best answer lies in the post of Smokeysmoke. Besides the evidence you’ve ignored about gun ownership DECREASING violent crime (short version here: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html), you’ve made the critical error of assuming a false black and white scenario. The REAL problem with most gun control laws is that they result in the wrong relationship between the citizen and the state. This happens in 2 major ways: 1. As SE said, they make the govt think of its citizens as guilty until proven innocent; 2. As Smokey said, they make the govt think of itself as the only legitimate protector, thereby taking the individual’s own responsibility and freedom for self-protection away.
      Take your pick of school shootings, Ft. Hood or Southern France massacres, and throw in a SINGLE law-abiding citizen with the means to stand up for him/herself with equal deadly force to the killers, and many more lives would have been SAVED.

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    • speedy7201
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:20pm

      Mutiny- Romney has came out and said he’s for the Second Amendment- yes, I know he’s stated otherwise before. but he can’t be as bad as Obama…
      VOTE 2012- ABO- Anynody But Obama

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    • honeybear
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:40pm

      Has anyone read SCREWED by Dick Morris? Try reading it. You will be very surprised at what is going on in the federal government.

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    • DeltaCharlieCain
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:06pm

      @MAPROG

      Sorry MAPROG, I’ll try again. However, given your first response to Al J, it looked like you were in agreement with SOCIALISM.ROCKS. You said that there’s a context to the second amendment, but in that particular response you did not specify what you meant.

      I understand that the second amendment has the word MILITIA for a reason (I tried to add a sort of funny youtube video to prove my point but I didn’t realize I ran out of space, I’ll try again at the end of this). The militia is meant to be in contrast to the people. So it’s basically saying that a well regulated militia is necessary for security reasons, so rather than eliminate the militia, the people shall retain the right to keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed (by anybody). Do you expect me to believe that they wanted to take away your rights when they just fought against an oppressive government? Besides that, you didn’t answer my question as to whether or not the other amendments apply to individuals or to a collective group (despite the fact that in each case, it says that the people have a certain right).

      Here’s Penn & Teller:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YY5Rj4cQ50

      Here’s a satirical video:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LndP0KN4aU

      As for my quotes involving the Founders, you’re saying “screw original intent?” I happen to believe that to be important.

      As for Jefferson, it only makes sense that he said in their own land. You have a right to your own prop

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:16pm

      All of you clowns that say Romney is pro 2nd Amendment now are a joke. If that is the case than throw Obama’s past out also. Quit bring up his past!!!!

      For the clown that says F-off, thank you. Being cussed out by a liberal is funny to me.

      @garbagcanlogic
      I did back up my comments using Romney in his own words on a video.

      @phil1776
      Learn to read, I am 100% behind American citizen ownership of weapons. I said I believe a legal US citizen should be able to own a machine gun, technically you can own a machine gun but the process is very expensive and you have to purchase a weapon made pre ban. You know who supported that ban MITT “HORRIBLE CANDIDATE” ROMNEY!!!!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:03pm

      To All Of You, In regards to my post above, I THOUGHT NOT!!!!!!!

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    • KevINtampa
      Posted on June 16, 2012 at 1:56am

      Here’s the slippery slope:
      1. Require guns mark the casings.
      2. After 5 years require all weapons pre-casing marked enabled be turned in/confiscated/exchanged.
      3. After 5 years the government tightens how many serial numbers it provides to manufacturers, thus reducing the number of guns available to citizens.
      As a side note: As any gun owner knows, a finely made weapon uses the least amount of friction. These weapons simply last longer. Deliberately introducing friction into a weapon’s system is begging for additional malfunction, shorter life, and additional maintenance. Soon enough these systems will fail, as will the 2nd Amendment.
      Also, how would this be implemented in revolvers?
      Also, $12 a gun is for the parts and metal, the materials. Sorry, but over 90% of a gun’s cost is paying for research, development, and pre-market testing. As one can imagine this is an expensive endeavor; just the insurance costs alone, even before the gun ever hits the market, are unbelievably higher than you would ever guess. And older models still in production guns that have already brought profit surpassing its development costs is what funds the most complex systems, like fully automatics and long range sniper rifles. You can not tell me adding a system like this into the already complicated process of developing a safe, reliable, and accurate weapon will not increase production costs by at least two fold. His $12 study must have itself cost $12, otherwise they overpaid for it

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    • LestWeForget
      Posted on June 16, 2012 at 8:29am

      True American 66 – SE did win! I can’t stand how all the round tables are set up to have too many voices but never ever enough time to get into the meat of the issue. SE did excellent, but it’s as if the producers know their guests have such limited knowledge that if they give them more than 45 seconds to talk, their idiocy will be revealed. I don’t believe that, but the producers are insulting with this jump jump fast moving style.

      Sutton – exactly! what if the bullets are stolen? easy to pin it on someone else – what a mess. so a criminal just needs to look on the public list of registered gun owners, break into their homes and viola! (In Illinois, they wanted to publish a list of all registered gun owners…it’s not inconceivable.)

      Addie – I haven’t heard that argument in awhile. Thanks! SO TRUE! Now I have to remember that in conversations…does it ever quiet an honest liberal?

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    • GunSlingerTexas
      Posted on June 16, 2012 at 9:38am

      Mircostamp can be defeated by filing down the stamp from the firing pin, or replacing it with a nonstamped pin, or you can pickup your brass. Almost all gun crimes are committed by criminals with stolen guns, so even if you trace it, it goes back to the registered owner. Microstamping violates the rights of the people under the 2nd Amendment. In order for this to work, people with guns that are microstamped must registered their guns with the government. Registering guns violates the 2nd and 14th amendments. 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”So if NY tells me I have to register a gun in order to possess it, they are violating the 2nd Amendment. What part of the right of the people to keep and BEAR arms, Shall NOT BE INFRINGED do politicians and police not understand? The 14th Amendment paragraph 1:” No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.” Between the 2nd and the 14th amendments, EVERY GUN LAW at the local, state or federal level are ILLEGAL!!! The reason for the 2nd Amd: search utoob for Suzanna Gratia Hupp, watch it all! Hitler first made the law that all guns had to be registered, then he sent out thugs to recover all the registered guns, then he murdered all the people he took the guns from!! That is the plan of your communist politician

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    • EthicsGirl
      Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:52am

      She really rocked!

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    • jimvet
      Posted on June 16, 2012 at 12:21pm

      I’m proud of Cupp.– Smokin’

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    • boyd9
      Posted on June 16, 2012 at 2:04pm

      To Socialismrocks

      hey socialism rocks if socialism really does rock then how do you explain what is going on in Greece, Italy, Spain, France and the other socialist countries in Europe? Shouldn’t all the regulations they have in place be preventing this economic collapse instead of creating it?
      If Socialism really did rock, the US would have never been able to out compete the USSR, pre-capitalist China or any of the European countries they should have all left us in the dust.
      Really sad for you socialists/progressives/Marxists when reality inserts its ugly head into your fantasy based arguments.

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  • skippy6
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:01pm

    Ready to buy black market bullets from the mob….That’s what the criminal vermin will do…And you and I will pay much more for our ammo…More nannyism….

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    • dirtypotter
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:24pm

      get your reloading gear while IT’S still legal

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    • Stryker
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:37pm

      Although there have been discussions of “serial numbers” for bullets ect., which would be crazy expensive, the technology referred to here would be applied to the weapon. It would stamp the bullet when fired, much like the firing pin stamps the primer, to marry up the casing with the weapon. I, of course, disagree with the whole premise, just wanted that point made. This is really a rather ridiculous way to try to solve crimes and would be akin to requiring all automobiles be equipped with flotation devices in case you crash into water. Only a VERY minute number of guns manufactured are ever used to commit a crime.

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:55pm

      Nannyism doesn’t begin to describe how stupid bullet registry is. If gun registry has been an abject failure, and the government couldn’t even keep track of those, how on Earth do they think they would be able to handle something a thousand times more difficult?

      These people want to control our lives, but they can barely keep the street lights on. It’s like crewing a Nuclear Submarine with fourth graders.

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    • Mikev5
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Agreed these people are idiots

      No it’s not gun control it’s posting a sticker on every gun owner even if you are a good citizen

      How many times must we stop this crap

      So if an illegal you don’t need any papers and get free everything you can even vote but if you own a gun you get slapped with all kinds of crap and pay through the nose just to keep it.

      I want my America back F these bleeding heart idiots

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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:55pm

      Just make it a law that everyone write their names on their shell casings before loading. A Sharpie marker will do just fine… A ridiculous answer for a ridiculous law.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:17am

      This is Not about GUNS; This is about… PRO or CON… on The CONSTITUTION!

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  • ClaytonBigsby
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:01pm

    I would request that the little gay dude give Cupp a little respect. He should quit interupting her and keep his fingers out of her face. If he refused, the little gay due would end up with a knot on his head.

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    • radargeek
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:22pm

      Was that a Freudian slip when the gay man was talking about ‘guns out of his mouth?’

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:47pm

      Liberal “men” are so effeminate, they disgust me.

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    • BenFrank1791
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 12:30am

      Why even go on the show. It’s like talking to Paul Bots, in the end there is just no point.

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    • SShink
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:06am

      Someone needs to take him shooting.

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  • belief101
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:00pm

    I love how someone like S.E. is not only RIGHT! But she is beautiful – like all of the conservative women I know!! Ann Coulter said it best one time; “if a pretty girl is walking up to talk to me, I know she must be conservative”…love it!

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    • atechgeek
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:20pm

      I would love to cut the cards with SE.

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    • Guerrino_P
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:50pm

      @BELIEF101
      Why should Coulter be different than any other guy who loves pretty women walking up to them?

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:46pm

      @Guerrero – You progs are so hreatened by a beautiful woman you have to play the tranny card. You people are so weak.

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:45am

      Guerrino_P is most likely a fruitcake since he sees Coulter as a man, typical for a lot of liberal “men”. Anything with an orifice is game to them. You poor….whatever.

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    • speedy7201
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:27pm

      What, you don’t think Hillary a doll? LOL

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  • dirtypotter
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:00pm

    making ammunition unaffordable is the most insidious form of gun controll

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    • Bruce1369
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:32pm

      Only second to the EPA banning lead as a toxic substance.

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    • MIKEYB
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:25pm

      Reload Dillon XL650 it’s all you need.

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    • countryfirst
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:13am

      So True, just like Obama is finding out regarding the fundamental transformation of America, Liberals will not be affective in changing the constitution, so they will just get our founding principle regulated out of existence.

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  • KeithOlberdink
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:59pm

    Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED.. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall Shall not be INFRINGED.not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. ShalShall not be INFRINGED.l not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED. Shall not be INFRINGED.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:19pm

      Romney sure infringed while governor.

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    • SR1911man
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:42pm

      infringed- past participle, past tense of in·fringe (Verb)
      Verb: 1. Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): “infringe a copyright”.
      2. Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: “infringe on his privacy”.

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    • fractalman
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:48pm

      THAT is the key component alright! Definition of infringe: “to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another” (from Webster’s). And the law is: ” . . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” That is the law that keeps being infringed upon by all of these attempts, some successful, to modify it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:29pm

      There is now such thing as a ‘reasonalbe gun law’……………NONE!!

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:02pm

      @Keith: A well regulated MILITIA, A well regulated MILITIA, A well regulated MILITIA, A well regulated MILITA…you get the point.

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    • FortySixand2
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:49pm

      @Maprog , right of the people , right of the people , right of the people , right of the people , right of the people

      cold dead hands, baby, Cold. Dead. Hands.

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:53pm

      Truth! The way the founder wrote the 2nd amendment I shouldn’t HAVE to register my firearm. I shouldn’t HAVE to have a CCL. That if I wanted it I should be able to have a tank for my transport vhicle and a bazooka for a sidearm.

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    • MAProg
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:54pm

      Fourtysix: My point is that the Second Amendment has a context. “A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state…“ The word ”militia” appears in the Amendment for a reason. No where does it say that people have the right to conceal weapons on their person for any reason whatsoever. It says people have the right tobear arms for the purpose of a well regulated militia, and for protection of the state.

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    • Ramv36
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:15am

      @MAProg

      Very good point about the Militia. A militiaman (or woman) is any citizen of able body and of majority age, so by your own argument there, I’d say every man and woman over 18 should have to own a firearm, seeing as they are Militia, and them being armed is necessary to the security of a free state.
      YOU are a Militiaman, I am a Militiaman, and other than voting, being a Militiaman is the absolute bare cheapest minimum cost of being a citizen of this country.
      What you’ve done with your argument (and well done btw) is to basically advocate for every citizen to be required to own a firearm to fulfill their Militia requirements!

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    • JohnnyRaiden
      Posted on June 17, 2012 at 8:24am

      Maprog~ Your inferring, you should stop doing that. The 2nd does not mean what you think it means. It does not grant You said it yourself, it has a context and it‘s context is easy to understand with the plain language of it and the author’s papers surrounding it. It doesn’t mean people can bear arms for the purpose of militia. It means a militia is needed for the people to be free, so with that PEOPLE have the right to bear arms that shall not be infringed. And even if you could make an argument for the militia, at that point in time, all men age 16 and up were considered militia.

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  • Delores at CH WV
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:59pm

    I am so proud of you, S.E. You are some strong, American.

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  • Landon410
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:57pm

    http://www.ammoland.com/2012/03/20/remington-launches-opposition-to-firearms-microstamping-in-new-york/#axzz1xnd8fgo9

    “Mandating firearms microstamping will restrict the ability of Remington to expand business in the Empire State. Worse yet, Remington could be forced to reconsider its commitment to the New York market altogether rather than spend the astronomical sums of money needed to completely reconfigure our manufacturing and assembly processes. This would directly impact law enforcement, firearms retailers and law-abiding consumers throughout New York– if not the entire country.”

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  • Landon410
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:57pm

    several gun and ammo manufacturers based in NY already told the state of new york they would up and leave if they passed this law, and trust me, several states would be happy to take in those companies,
    the other problems with this law, what if you bought ammo in NJ? its not tagged…
    what if you use a revolver or shell catcher? no shells left to be check. what if….. you removed the mark from your ammo prior to use?

    what if…. you buy your ammo in bulk online? too many holes in this, too much money passed down to the consumer, research this, I know remington isn’t happy with it, and they employ a lot of poeple in NY

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    • KMM
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:42pm

      I’d love to see them all move to Texas or another pro-2nd amendment state.

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    • RLTW
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:34pm

      It’s about the progressive gaining a foot hold tantamount to an invasion, once they control one State the president is set and on to the next State.

      Simply put it’s an ATTACK!

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  • huey6367
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:54pm

    Typical anti-gun liberal. Hey *******, if you don’t want a gun then dont buy one. DO NOT tell me what to do.

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  • tommy_pete
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:54pm

    Thanks for not letting smug Mr Gross (or is that gross Mr Smug? whatever….) for spinning this too far S E. Overwhelminlg gun deaths are a black-on-black crime and increasing a black-on-white crime. What Mr Smug (sic!) doesn’t understand is the INTENT of our magnificent 2nd Amendment. It protects against true tryranny and permits the citizenry a means to protect themselves against those who would do them harm. Why is the Left so willing to submit to governmental power?? It belies logic since on almost every topic THEY are the most obstinate to tow the line. Wanna really do something worthy Mr Smug?? Stop the murder of innocent unborn children.

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    • dmforman
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:39pm

      The woman with the unwanted child has rights, not the unborn child. The murder victim has rights, and not the person who legally purchased his/her gun.

      I love how at the end the commentator brought up Gifford and Treyvon, both are solved crimes. We know who did it and basically what happened. What about the many, many crimes that happen in our cities with stolen guns and are never solved. This happens way more than cases like Gifford and Treyvon, and this law would not help stop the violence already happening with stolen guns.

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  • SuperSuineg
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:54pm

    thats just one more thing that can and will go wrong to prevent the gun firing in a moment of real need. plus crimes with guns are done with mostly stolen guns so all that a traking stamp will do is go back to the buyer/owner/shop from where it was stolen.

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  • txdavo
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:54pm

    “Usually people with guns” Yesterday’s news included a man who ran out of his apartment to stab his ex-wife and then had one of thier children call the police. Did he stab her with a gun? There was the video of the car swerving into an intersection to run over a person crossing the street. Was he run over with a gun? Oh, and the lady who was doused with gasoline and set afire by her ex in a convience store parking lot. Was she doused with a gun or set fire with a gun?

    These lefties are always using unrealistic arguments to pick away at our rights and personal responsibilities, that way we can become dependent on them.

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  • OHOH54
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:53pm

    Like S.E. says that gun ownership is under assault just look and see how the U.N. is trying to put into effect a world wide gun ban that B.O. is in favor of.

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    • RJL
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:10pm

      S E should have messed the geeks hair up.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:52pm

    Well done SE Cupp; people kill people, not guns on their own.

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  • banjarmon
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:52pm

    The Second Amendment – Right to Bear Arms. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be INFRINGED.
    This is MY RIGHT to OWN and to BEAR ARMS PERIOD!!!!

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    • huey6367
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:56pm

      The Second Amendment as put in place in case they don’t defened the First.

      So true.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:51pm

    Switzerland has virtually zero gun crime because every household is REQUIRED to have a gun.

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    • Altair
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:04pm

      … and a monocultural demographic.

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    • Copo
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:21pm

      Altair – watch out, liberals will call you a racist because they don‘t understand that you’re talking about culture and not their imaginary “race”.

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    • saranda
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:17pm

      Wrong on many levels. Swiss men have compulsory military service starting at age 20 sand concluding around 50. The gun you speak of as being compulsory is issued and registered by the government along with 24 rounds of ammo which are also tracked. Yes all households are armed, but in no way does this scenario mirror the US gun ownership experience with compulsory training, registering, monitoring and such I would bet many American gun owners wouldnever accept. The NRA protects criminals gun use which IMHO is its flaw. They need to use their clout and reach to find a way to put guns into the bands of Americans who have been trained, not by their papa in the woods but by real pros.

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:57pm

      @Saanda – Wrong – the Swiss disbanded their military years ago. Neutral countries don’t need a military.

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:06pm

      @From Virginia
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:57pm
      ‘the Swiss disbanded their military years ago. Neutral countries don’t need a military.’
      ************
      You are an ignorant bufoon. I live in Switzerland, and we absolutely have compulsory military service. Saranda is 100% correct. The Swiss Army is very much based on a militia concept, because we are so small. The idea is that each household can defend the nation in an emergency in a trained and organized manner. Swiss men have shooting practice at least annually after their compulsory active 2 years of service are done with, until they are in their 40′s. They practice their marksmanship and combat skills. And while we do not have random gun violence here, like in the US, there are some problems with domestic violence (alcohol, family quarrel, murder&suicide scenarios) because of a weapon in the home.

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:15pm

      Some CIA facts on Swiss military:

      https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sz.html

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    • JohnnyRaiden
      Posted on June 17, 2012 at 8:29am

      Saranda is correct on a few things. But here’s the thing. However other things mentioned are complete BS. The NRA supports criminals guns? This is so stupid I’m not really sure how to respond besides stop being stupid.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:44pm

    This “dude” is a pompous assss! Sideburns are in style or does his boyfriend just like them?

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    • belief101
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:02pm

      LOL! Nice comment Cemerius! You made me almost spill my drink laughing!

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    • travis
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:03pm

      first point- no one brought up the wording in the 2nd amendment. what did our founders say the reason for the right to keep and bear arms is? it is as a last defense from a tyranical government. so if the government can track each bullet back to the person who fired it, that certainly is an infringement.

      second point- the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be “infringed”. this is why the NRA and others go crazy when any talks about “infringing” on our gun rights.

      -armed citizen since 1776-

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  • stix_n_stones
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:44pm

    Get em!

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  • johnpaulkuchtajr
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:43pm

    Let’s see now….

    The Republic has been around for how long? And was the right to bear arms one of the keystones to build the country?

    I guess that’s what Obammie meant about fundamentally changing the country? He and Holder want to take weapons away from Americans and sell them to the Mexican drug cartels?

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  • CougarNick78
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:43pm

    There were many leaders who loved them some gun control, so THEIR OWN GUNS could go on killing their enemies….. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, etc. etc. Gun control is a sham.

    Here’s what gun control really is, USING BOTH HANDS WHEN SHOOTING.

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  • GreenMountainBoy
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:40pm

    Betcha S.E Cupp would look awesome holding my .44-70!!!

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  • Kathleen
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:38pm

    S.E. Cupp is always good to listen to. She cuts right through the BS.

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  • CatB
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:36pm

    Never try to get between an intelligent, conservative, “gun owning” woman and the SECOND AMMENDMENT… S.E. Thank YOU!

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  • CougarNick78
    Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:32pm

    Dan Gross has that all too smug, “I know better than you do, and will make you do….what I say.”

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:37pm

      As are all liberal ,,, progressive,,,, FOOLS .. they are so dumb they don‘t know what they don’t know ;-)

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