Faith

‘Salvation Through the Grace of God’: Obama Explains His Faith

Speaking in Albuquerque, NM today, President Obama explained his Christian faith while responding to an audience member’s question about abortion.

“I’m a Christian by choice,” Obama said. Describing why he made that choice, he added, “It was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life I would want to lead.”

“We’re sinful, and we’re flawed, and we make mistakes, and we achieve salvation through the grace of God,” he added.

Regarding abortion, he said he Bill Clinton had it “right”: “This is where Bill Clinton had the right formulation a couple of decades ago, that abortion should be safe, legal and rare”:

H/T: David Brody

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  • vic138
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:25pm

    Or is it, “salvation through the fires of hell?”

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  • Dustyluv
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:23pm

    Ask a MUSLIM if he is a MUSLIM and they will tell you yes he is! Because in the Muslim faith, once a Muslim, always a Muslim.

    Dont ask Christians if he is a Muslim…PLEASE ASK MUSLIMS for the answer…You will get a yes every time.

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  • Silat
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:23pm

    He believes in -collect salvation-. We pay and his union thugs collect.

    He is a Muslim!!!!!!! Even Satan believes in Christ. Even Satan can quote scripture.

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    • El Paco
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:46pm

      I don’t think he is muslim… just a very disillusioned christian.

      Christian = believe in Christ. The church he attended believes in Christ… although the tennants are very messed up. If you believe in Christ, you are therefore a christian by definition. His beliefs as shown numerously by GB shows that he does not ascribe to what Jesus really taught, therefore by the spirit of the definition of Christian, he is not one.

      So yes, he is Christian by definition, but not by spirit.

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    • Mithra
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:57am

      And if I’m mistaken, don’t Muslims also believe in Satan?

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    • messenger
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:08am

      “Dixitque Deus fiat lux et facta est lux.”

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 12:29am

      This video proves he isn’t Muslim, because Muslims don’t belive in abortion.

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  • parmajohn
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:22pm

    Come on now Lets take it easy on the guy He is Drowning in his own BS He can“t keep His lies oops stories staight Or he forgets which staged audience hes reading to To quote another bad actor ”I Pity the Fool”

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    • cjhdd
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:06pm

      A man or woman of faith does not voice his or her religion as a classroom teaching moment.
      obama is always teaching and preaching… he never comes across as someone who can give an honest response.
      Religion is not something to fool around with… even if you don’t go to church every Sunday, but believe in God, you show compassion, conviction and grace when speaking of religion.
      His teleprompter has been on vacation during these backyard campaign moments… guess he could have programmed his IPod with his quotes and just played them back to refresh his memory.
      This guy might as well be talking about a golf game or arugula.

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  • temple62
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:21pm

    From the first week during the Obama Administration, he has lied, deceived and cheated the American people but the media, liberals, progressives, socialists and Congress have enabled him to do so. Obama knows nothing about schools, nutrition, health, manufacturing, car industries, banks, Wall Street or the U.S. military. Obama is a cruel hoax groomed and directed by the Bilderberg shadow government. This is the same shadow government that brought us Clinton and both Bushes. He has employed many of the same tax cheats from these previous failed administrations. It is very disturbing to see well meaning American voters fooled by the cooperating media and high tech propaganda and outright lies!

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  • donbcg
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:20pm

    We have actually won. He is friggin scared. God has shown down on us and the light has scared the daylights out of him.

    I pray for his soul and hope someday he finds the truth. Then he will be saved.

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    • pap pap
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:33pm

      I will withhold prayer for him until he is out of public office. Hopefully it will be soon. I’m now praying for all of us that have to put up with him.

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:34pm

      You’re a much better person than I. I can’t even pray for him anymore, to my shame. but I‘d still rather beg God’s forgivness than ask this president’s permission to live as an American.

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:38pm

      That too. That too. He makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I just pray for him any way. He is still one His children.

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:41pm

      WingedWolf-

      I understand. But, please remember that even though we walk through the shadow of death…. Pray for him. That is God’s work sir. We must give blindly. The battle you wage is not yours to wage. That is God’s. Never stop praying, even for the worst of us all. They may be misguided but God loves them too.

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    • superfide
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:22pm

      God can change anyone. He may not be a Christian right now, but who’s to say God cannot get ahold of this man and his heart? Please continue to pray for him. On top of the fact that you should always pray for the President and Congress and judges and the military and law enforcement anyway, regardless of who they are. They have tremendous responsibility and power and we should all pray for their wisdom, their souls, and their decisions.

       
    • Gigantopithecus
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:36pm

      Maybe Barry will discover Christ in prison. We can only hope.

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    • PatriotsLikeMe
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:52pm

      Don’t count your chickens DONBCG–we’re nowhere out of the woods yet and there are terrible, menacing things lurking behind those trees! I‘m like a lot of others who really don’t much care what religious beliefs he may or may not hold dear but this whole issue relates to his unfailing consistency to profess one thing and act the polar opposite of that–I am charged to see it as just another piece of compelling evidence of his true and insidious mindset.

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 8:40am

      Partriot-

      I am not saying he is not evil. I know for a fact that his real ideology is evil. But, as long as we continue to call him out on his words and actions with such anger, the rest of the public will only percieve us as bullies.

      This is the trick. I say kind words and do actually pray for him. Not because I am not aware of his evil, but in spite of it.

      Evil is almost not enough to describe the truth behind him and these communist groups who follow him.

      I do concern myself with his well being. I honestly see fear in his eyes. Not fear the Tea Parties or the people. Fear of the groups he has aligned himself with. He is in serious danger from these guys. They mean what they say, and will do what they say.

      Sirhan Sirhan was a lefty, yet he killed RFK. He was killed for not being left enough. That is why I pray for Obama. That and he has kids.

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  • tankchaser
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:20pm

    Would a christian have trouble acknowledging the creator twice in a week? I don’t know the mans heart but words and deeds do not match on this one, making me doubt his sincerity.

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    • DDay10
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:31pm

      Tank.
      Don’t forget that muslims have dispensation to openly lie to whomever to further advance their goal of sharia law.

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  • joseph Fawcett
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:19pm

    He is not a real Christian and still support murder of the innocent, denying the unborn the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is a shame, Obama should just keep his mouth shut about Christ and being a follower of His. We cannot believe a word that he says because his witness does not match!

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    • Mithra
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:54am

      I agree with the murder of the innocent, including also any innocents killed by the drone attacks in Pakistan.

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  • Fred Hussein
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:16pm

    He didn’t mention that true Christians believe that salvation comes through Christ and Christ alone. That is a basic Christian doctrine. That would certainly offend his peace loving muslim friends.

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  • Gita
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:16pm

    Does he have one ounce of courage for his so called convictions. Oy I can’t take it anymore! Please Lord save us from this soldier of satan!

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  • Bullcop34
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:15pm

    How many news clips are out there where he admits he is a muslim??? You can’t have it both ways barry.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:48pm

      why not? O’Donnell used to be a witch. what’s the difference?

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    • Joseph_Plumb_Martin
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:09am

      She also went to Oxford…oh wait,she lied about that too

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  • FreedomGal76
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:14pm

    If you notice, he said “…we achieve salvation…”. Sounds like he kept it in terms of collectivism.

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    • uhadenoughyet.com
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:53pm

      Very nice comment. I would add that by saying “we achieve” and then by the grace of god, that is sort of like saying “we made a touchdown” when watching your favorite football team. In other words, is salvation something we achieve or is it a gift of grace. If he really meant what he said he should have said “we receive” not achieve. So either the professor president doesn’t have a basic command of English or he was lying. Either way he is dangerous to our freedom and he has to be voted out of office in 2012.

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:14pm

    i don’t care what his stinking religious beliefs are. the philosophic world view that we’re all worthless sinful little children in need of a sky daddys forgiveness is so 15th century. i wish more would evolve away from these ideas. but all that aside, the only reason obama is doing this is becasue so many christians doubt his “faith.”—–to those doubters let me quote the constitution article 6 section 3 succinctly and point out the error of that questioning; “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.“ is it not a ”religious test” to question his beliefs?—-folks, if we want to restore the constitution, we better know what it friggin’ says.

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    • Anonimouse
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:21pm

      Mr B, most people don’t care much about what religion, if any, he practices. The concern is that he lies about it. He claims to be a Christian but fails to behave like one.

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    • Iamtheoracle
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:22pm

      except it continues to reveal his true character. I could care less if he is a Christian or a Muslim or an atheist… I want him to be truthful. It is simply another distraction tactic

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    • Fred Hussein
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:25pm

      There is no Constitutional restriction that individual citizens may not use any criteria they want for voting for a president. The restriction is on the government. Many voted for Barry because he is black. Do you condemn that racism? If I want to reject Barry because he is not a Christian, that is my right. I had rather have someone who is not a lover of the vile, wicked religion of Islam.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:32pm

      so “no religious test” applies only to the gov’t? huh? WE ARE THE DAMN GOVERNEMNT!! don’t you get it?

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    • Anonimouse
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:42pm

      Yes MrB, I get it. Again, the problem is the lie, not the religion.
      The questions about his lie have been twisted around by his supporters into a question about his faith. This is what they do – change the argument in mid stream. We have to stick to basics and reject their premises.

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    • Fred Hussein
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:48pm

      MrButcher
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:32pm

      so “no religious test” applies only to the gov’t? huh? WE ARE THE DAMN GOVERNEMNT!! don’t you get it?

      xxxxxxxxx

      No, I don’t get it because there is nothing to get. You are crazy if you think the Constitution can compel citizens from using any criteria they want when voting. The government cannot refuse to let a person run for office because of his religious beliefs, but is doesn’t mean voters have to ignore that aspect of his life and character. You just don’t understand freedom, do you?

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:51pm

      MrButcher-

      I can see you are of obvious intelligence far beyond your own comprehension. For us dummies out there who are so 15th century, a mans beliefs are the core of his character. A man with no beliefs is empty of both character and reason.

      His beliefs do matter. Since we were founded on Christian priciples or even just Godly priciples, it would make sense that anyone who would want to lead this society would want to aspouse the same beliefs. It holds true in reverse as well.

      The fact that he lies presents a whole new issue. But as far whether he believes as most Americans do, it matters. Maybe not to you but, again for us dummies out here searching for sky daddies it does to us.

      Thanks for trying though.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:59pm

      how do you know its a lie? what does it matter? he went to wright’s church for 20 years. i know some “true christians” consider liberation theology a perversion but i consider ALL religion a perversion of reason.—it’s a well known fact that only christians (and jews in certain areas) can run for office and EXPECT to win any amount of popular support. that speaks to a deeper level of group-think and christian mob-rule that is easiliy threatened by any difference in a candidate. I don’t like liberation theology. i don’t like any theology. christianity, islam, judaism etc…the constitution is very clear on this i think. and, though, he may be lying its still a non-issue.—if only we’d question his political beliefs with as much fervor and zeal and demand the releasing of his university papers….i think we’d have all the ammo we needed with that. who cares about the invisible man in the sky.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:09pm

      hate to break it to ya, folks, but this in not a “christian nation”–its a secular nation with a bunch of christians in it who are free to worship as they please as are all peaceful religions. read jefferson, adams, frankilin, madison, paine even some washington and the damn constitution. it is an UTTER lie to say we were founded in the name of jeebus. america is an idea. not a belief. ideas are far more beautiful and elegant and more a testament to nature’s god (a deistic term) than any shouted amens or old books full of superstition. or houses of worship were people go to compare clothing and feel better. that’s the simple truth.

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    • Anonimouse
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:12pm

      Sorry MrB, but the President of the United States lying IS a problem for me.

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:43pm

      Mr. B. -

      We are not a secular nation sir. We are a Christian nation who believes in the workings of God. We live the life God asks to. One of freedom. One where we rule ourselves. One where we can allow a musilim to live right next door and some cases in our homes. We are a nation of peace. We are anation of people who think that regardless of your faith, truth is the only way to go.

      We believe in a creator. That he is a loving God. That each man is put on earth to perform his works according his law.

      When we aspouse to be “secular” you lose the ability for all men to be created equally. You allow feelings to become the forefront to every aurguement.

      You don’t have believe in God to understand that being a good person who tells the truth, who wears a badge of honor, can look you right in the eye and tell you something and you see the truth from his heart is the only darned way a society whether Christian, Muslim, or Athiest can exist without people shooting each other in the streets.

      It is the only way sir. And him being the highest ranking one of us makes him that more darned accountable. Your disdain for people of faith is obvious and insulting. But, Sir I pray for you. I pray that some day you will see past you hard fast pride and find the peace that comes with being honorable and holding the truth as a value unshakable by any man or any government.

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    • phlogiston
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:53pm

      MrButcher: I don’t agree with the premise that Christianity should necessarily be relegated to the ignorance of the 15th century, but I do completely agree with your conclusion that we have a secular government, and for that reason the president’s religion makes not the least bit of difference, nor does the president’s perceived ability or lack thereof to express it.

      For the rest: That this immaterial argument is the focus of so much effort is disappointing and damaging; if you want to fight ably, focus on the policies!

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:01pm

      hey buttmuncher its artical 2 section 1 hes gotta worry about because he dont fit that part of our constitution. of being a natural born citizen. thats born of two (2) american parents

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    • crazedbanshee
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:01pm

      And 1st century and 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 16th 17th 18th 19th 20th.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:29am

      haha..christ is still a fraud and so are all his supporters.—lets get back to the constitution before you all get “raptured” up to wherever and this conversation turns, well…blank….more blank than it already is.

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    • kontrarian
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 11:03am

      ” the philosophic world view that we’re all worthless sinful little children in need of a sky daddys(sic) forgiveness is so 15th century.”

      BUTCHER: That’s right, we don’t need Obama “sky daddy” to shepherd us, and, until now, we’ve been the only nation on Earth to break free of the 15th (and every other) century God-king culture!

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  • Iamtheoracle
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:14pm

    he will say anything to appease his audience. So it’s the precepts of Jesus that spoke to him about the kind of life he would “want” to live – not the kind of life he DOES live. – not that he has experienced a conversion or had a witness of the eternal truths of Jesus Christ – no mention of the Atonement . No surprises here. It is clear that he has zero understanding of even the precepts of Christ – by your fruits shall ye know him… his fruits are rotten

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    • veritas51322
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:58pm

      We are not to judge but it sounds like he has been tutored on what to say as this seem incongruent with his previous behavior and explanation.

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  • FreedomOfSpeech
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:12pm

    I’ll take me some chili peppers, insallah.

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  • toco0109
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:11pm

    Obama is a marxist muslim.
    I alsways said it: most of Obama supporters are ilegal aliens, blacks, idiots, US haters, drug users, criminals, homosexuals, ignorants, marxists; why is that?

     
    • HAVETOBEFREEAGAIN
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:57pm

      TOC00109 I agree with you!! No one wants to face the truth about Obama because they would have see the truth now!! Most people do not want the truth now, example, Hitler, if people around the world would have faced the truth in the 1930′s HE WOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED!!!!

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:02pm

      Brilliant words from a self proclaimed racist, homophobe, ignorant loud mouth.
      Well done toco0109

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:28pm

      Another day another hitler reference. Sad.

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    • citizenoftexas
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:52pm

      Dude…you’re not helping.

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    • Mithra
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:27am

      Perhaps you‘re a lib poseur just trying to show Glenn’s site as a group of bigots?

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    • QweeQwa
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 5:25am

      If that is true Mirtha then about 90% of this site is composed of so called Lib posers.

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    • RedStateBlues
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:32am

      You’re delusional.

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  • Bril
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:11pm

    This thing that the United States embrasses is called FREEDOM! You should try it sometime Mr President!

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  • PizzedVeteran
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:08pm

    i am now dumber for having watched that. the man can’t speak w/o his teleprompter and a hand up his arse.

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    • Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:49pm

      Was Jeff Dunham there?
      Who was moving his lips?

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    • RedStateBlues
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:31am

      LOL, and Sarah Palin can’t speak without sharpie notes on her palm. Priceless!

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  • Sunnyr
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:07pm

    Yeah, you’ve already said on video a dozen times that your salvation depends on the “collective salvation,” Comrade. Pfft! We all know that Marxists and Communists are athiests. Tell it to someone who might believe your lying *ss.

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    • Nalea
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:56am

      He is the consummate liar/chameleon. He is actually an atheist. You are right on the $.

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  • solaveritas
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:07pm

    Right. And he doesn’t want his daughter, if she were to make a mistake, to be “PUNISHED WITH A BABY!”

    And he doesn’t want to ban partial birth abortion.

    And he wants to export abortion to the Afghan woman….though they don’t want it because they feel something like that could only come from THE GREAT SATAN!!!

    HOPE? NOPE! Not if you are a person less than 9 months old!

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    • teapartyextremist
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:23pm

      He just did the same thing in Kenya by using our tax dollars to encourage policy over there that included legalized abortion.

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    • DawnTreader
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:44pm

      And don’t forget, helped them write Sharia law into their *new* Kenyan constitution. What about all that freedom of religion tripe he supposedly espouses?

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  • Anonimouse
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:07pm

    Why should abortion be rare if there’s nothing wrong with it?

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:56pm

      We will be known by our fruits. Of course, I am not a perfect person, but I pray God gives me the courage to know and to do the will of God in my own life. When Jesus was accused of healing on behalf of Satan, he said that a house divided cannot stand. Killing babies is not of Christ. Christ didn’t teach people to pursue justice after others, He taught them to forgive, and neglect the pursuit of justice (turn and give them the other cheek, forgive those who wrong us). Certainly, we have a lot of conflicting piece of evidences. I know ours is not to judge others (difficult as that may be), however, we are always to test spirits by the Word of God. These things Obama says, does and believes in certainly don’t compute for me.

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    • moriarty70
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:26pm

      Ideally, comprehensive sexual education, ie. teaching birth control should make it unnessecary for the most part.

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    • Anonimouse
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:31pm

      Yeah, but why strive to make it rare?

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    • smugsmiley
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:08pm

      Because it’s a surgical procedure which carries risks and can be very emotionally taxing on the woman. Also, producing a condom takes up a lot less resources than performing an abortion (speaking from a utilitarian viewpoint).

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    • Jethro212
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 8:08pm

      Great point, if it is completely OK, then why are they trying to limit it? After all, isn’t abortion fantastic at getting rid of those pesky kids that are making your iphone unattainable?!

      I swear, its time for me to build a time machine, get the founders, bring them forward and just go, “OK, this is gun control, this is abortion, yeah I know Washington, you have to understand sir, we kill babies cause who wants to be burdened with that yo!”

      I bet you a million space bucks, that after that happened, at minimum they would scream TAKE US BACK WE WILL FIX THIS!!!!

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    • GUT_CHECK
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:42am

      KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS a BLOODSPORT TO A GLOBALIST. “RARE” AS OPPOSED TO MEDIUM OR WELL.

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    • CockroachesOutofCongress
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 6:06pm

      Great response, that is what we were sold when the feminazis were pushing for abortion to be legal. They said it would be “safe, legal, and rare.” Well I don’t call 50,000,000 babies killed since 1973 RARE!!! How can he even repeat that lie when he KNOWS it hasn’t been rare? It’s a big profitable business which is why Planned Parenthood sends their gestapos out to interfere with people PRAYING and giving out literature. Another point is: “If it isn’t a baby, then you’re not pregnant.” :)

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:07pm

    what about his YEARS of declaring he can only get salvation thru COLLECTIVE salvation. he’s not American and he is NO CHRISTIAN.

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:28pm

      Seriously. He may not be a Christian, but this birther crud has to stop. It negates the aurguement via ignorance. Please stop referencing his birth place. In the end he will be judged by his maker if he in fact lied about it.

      I doubt he is a Christian in the true Christian sense. Leberation theology dictates Christianity. But, their version of Jesus is a victim. They relate to Him with sypathy vice empathy. They see themselves as people who have been rounded up and hammered in.

      That makes him an angry Christian. A retaliatory Christian. He’s wrong. They are wrong. But, in A,erica even the President can worship who and how he wants.

      Can’t have it both ways. Either we have freedom of religion or we don’t.

      But for the record, it means we have won. He now sees that the people don’t like him or his theology. So, like Clinton did he is trying to look center. Not gonna work here. Clinton was just a pervert. Obama is an angry man hell bent on making amends for all those who tortured Jesus and all those he feels are being tortured by us Christians on the other side.

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    • Jethro212
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:14pm

      Don’t get caught up in the birther thing. HOWEVER, you can go completely balls out nuts over his lack of showing his medical records! Where are they? Why wouldn’t he release them? I have a good guess, lets just say, he’s been on the couch talking about his mother a LOT.

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  • Freelancer
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:06pm

    That’s what happens when Mr. Teleprompter is kept in the case…. He forgets what the message is because he doesn’t really even believe his own tripe.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:06pm

    he really IS grabbing at straws now. he is LYING thru his teeth. obama, a CHRISTIAN? no way in Hell. he just dissed “THE CREATOR” right out of the Declaration of Independence– again.. that makes TWICE in a week. and all his islam dinners and statements, and everything AGAINST CHRISTIANITY? it makes us SICK.

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    • plunderpower
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:34pm

      The guy just said he achieves salvation by the grace of God. Salvation is never achieved. Grace is God‘s Riches At Christ’s Expense. He is playing games and has no idea what a Christian is, let alone Grace.

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    • JehovahJireh1
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:29pm

      Remember in Matthew 4 when Satan is trying to tempt Jesus Christ in the wilderness immediately after Jesus was baptised. He used scripture with a little twist on it. Satan knows scripture!! Obama maybe not so much, just what someone put on the teleprompter!! If he was such a christian why isn’t his hands in the right pose for praying? Looks like that child’s game ” this is the church house, this is the steeple, open up the doors and here is all (my) the people.” HMMMM?

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  • Eraty Bab
    Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:04pm

    I call BS

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    • Diego Garcia
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:21pm

      I agree.

      He may be Christian but his beliefs are not thought out or mature when he evidently stumbles in such a ham handed manner when speaking of his Christian beliefs. A mature man sitting as president should by now have a better grasp of his beliefs and in his ability of expressing them.

      He certainly couldn’t convince me to become Christian. He is unconvincing.

       
    • dressseller
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:59pm

      That all SOUNDS real nice Mr. President. But.. I‘m reminded of scripture that warns we will know God’s children by the fruit of their life. We have only to look at the fruit of your life and of your policies since being POTUS……to have serious doubts about the faith you now profess.

      Professing Jesus Christ to get votes for your agenda is a big No-No I’m thinking.

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    • stephenb.net
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:06pm

      For a man who parses his words and chooses them carefully he did not think this through very well OR he is not aware of the difference. “…and we achieve salvation through the grace of God,”

      No sir, we do not achieve salvation. We accept the gift of salvation. There is no achievement involved in salvation on the part of the human lest any man boast. How much does he know about the faith he claims.

       
    • Sicboy
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:16pm

      You can call it what ever you want. For the believer in Jesus, we are saved through Grace. Just as I won’t say Mormons will not be saved, I can‘t say obama won’t be saved. That is only a decision onlyJesus can make. Matt7:22. It is very easy for us to judge someone we don’t like. But we cannot say who is saved and who isn’t.

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    • ME
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:21pm

      100% BS can not give credit to the creator but is so much of a christian BS
      BS
      BS
      BS

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    • Gigantopithecus
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:27pm

      This guy wouldn’t lie to us now would he?

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    • mutt
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:56pm

      With this phoney, it’s not so much as what he says, day to day, it’s his actions. Listening to Reverend Wright and not getting up to leave for over 20 yrs, (at least until Wright was exposed by Fox) Deliberately ignoring “The Creator” when stumping about inalienable rights. Embracing Muslim (terrorists and others). Collective salvation? Supporting abortion especially late term. Bearing false witness everytime he opens up his pie hole. This clown’s convictions are as firm as freshly made jello, just like his backbone. He is desparate in his attempt to be everything to everybody but his lack of substance has shown he is nothing at all but empty words and in a short two years he will be nothing but a bad headache for those left to clean up after his failed experiment.

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    • Fed up in Mn
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 4:57pm

      Obama is so full of hot air he could float a balloon.

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    • plunderpower
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:30pm

      He is what he is to whom ever he is talking to. If he’s with muslims, he’s a muslim. If he’s in Africa, he’s a Kenyan. The man has made sure he is the center of attention in any group. He lies when it suits him, and he doesn’t think it is wrong. He takes a little bit of this, and a little bit of that…and says that’s who he is.

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    • NancyJean
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:31pm

      Eraty Bab,
      I’ll second the motion.

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    • DRAIN_THE_CESSPOOL
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:44pm

      TOTAL BS. He lies. It’s a means to an end. There is no room for God in Communism.

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    • Topcat
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:56pm

      I agree , BS .. I dont care what religion he is , I am sure one of them must make it a sin to Lie . Oh Yeh it ok for Muslims to lie …

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 6:29pm

      Hmmmmn…. What about his “collective salvation” I have heard him speak of so often? I think he has redefined a few terms and is not saying what it SOUNDS like he is saying…….

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    • Jamestown
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 6:40pm

      Ok you are right…I get all bent out of shape…work one job for23 Years…lay o ..DEFENSE SPENDING CUT…NO WARING…GONE…..and ya sure a 86 Pound weakling takes 8 vacations in two and a half months…that’s just the happy blacknessin him ..right…hey I’m acting bad right while there paint no king work pall..I should just say I’m sorry you black idiot…..LIKE HELL I WILL…

      Jamestown  
    • Sicboy
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 7:01pm

      Get it correct people. Muslims will lie to advance their cause. They WILL NOT eat pork or shell fish as a lie to advance their cause. obama is not a muslim. Misguided yes, muslim no.

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 7:07pm

      Of course your parents didn’t take you to church. They were Marxists, Numbnuts!

      Independent Tess  
    • Huckabee Gingrich 12
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 8:10pm

      Oh, so salvation is an “achievement”? Kind of like a law degree or a high bowling score? No, Mr. President, Salvation is a free gift that you either accept or reject. The notion that one’s salvation must be “achieved” is a lie straight out of the pits of hell. If one had to “achieve” salvation, Christ suffered in vain. Mr. President, I recommend that either you study the Word for yourself, or hire better consultants so you can tell more accurate lies.

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    • moonfish
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 8:14pm

      Sounds like he’s been coached… time to walk the talk, which we haven’t seen. Believe what you hear if it’s from a source that you trust.

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 8:56pm

      i still cant find collective salvation anywhere in my bible. maybe i should look in carl marx book or maybe its in saul alinskis books. or maybe he pulled it out of his butt. mr obama your a lieing sack of dog doo doo.

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    • LAR15
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:36pm

      No mention of sin. No mention of a holy God. No mention of a substitutionary death. No mention of Jesus being Deity.

      Just religion – which amounts to man’s works to get to God. Not the answer to the problem.

      “You must be born again.” – Jesus

      “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’

      “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’” – Jesus

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    • ltb
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:36pm

      People need to understand that being a Christian is not determined by whether you go to church, whether your parents were Christians, or whether you follow the Ten Commandments. Being a Christian is defined by one pivotal point in the Christian’s life, which is the moment (s)he receives the free gift of salvation through Jesus by confessing to God that (s)he is a sinner in need of a Savior and that (s)he accepts the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for all of the sins (s)he has committed and will ever commit. Once you take that first act of faith by praying to God to receive salvation, you are forever saved from the punishment your sins deserve.

      Obama said that he came to his Christian faith, basically because he is a good person who wants to takes care of his brothers and sisters. Having been a Christian for 30 years, I can honestly say that I’ve never, ever met another Christian who said, “Before I got saved I was such a good-hearted person, but I became a Christian to be like Jesus so I could make the world a better place.” Give me a break. Apart from Jesus, we are all selfish, self-centered and self-absorbed.

      If anyone thinks that trying to be like Jesus is the way to receive God’s free grace (notice it’s free) in order to get into Heaven, that person can rest assured he will be a miserable failure and then, after he dies, he will go to Hell. Furthermore, you can read the Bible until the Second Coming and while you may learn a lot about the fallen nature of mankind, about God’s plan of salvation for mankind and about mankind’s Savior, you have wasted your time if you refuse to act on the knowledge you’ve acquired by receiving the free gift of salvation offered through Jesus. Should Christians try to emulate Jesus? Absolutely, but it won’t affect your eternal salvation when you fail to achieve that impossible standard and the reason you are going to initially turn to Jesus (repent) is because you have realized you’re a sinner in need of salvation.

      One final point… Obama said that abortion should be safe, legal and rare, yet he voted in favor of live birth abortions in IL. Do you know what a live birth abortion is? A live birth abortion is when an abortionist induces labor and then places the live baby on a shelf in the clinic until it dies. Some cold hearted people may quibble over whether abortion during the first trimester is infanticide, but noone can quibble over the fact that a baby born and left on a shelf to die is infanticide. Obama is a liar.

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    • An Arizonan
      Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:47pm

      Total Male Bovine Fecal Matter. I wonder what the folks at his Mosque think about that?

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    • Joseph_Plumb_Martin
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:15am

      I still can‘t find anywhere in the bible where it says America is god’s chosen land and Jesus would write our Constutition.

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    • GeorgeWashingtonslept here
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 4:58am

      He’s a freaking “LIAR” by “CHOICE”…………..

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    • QweeQwa
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 5:22am

      The holier than Becksters are in unison in their judgment in whether or not a person is truly born again. How can I gain such powers, so I can ascertain as well as you self righteous folks, to look into the depth of a human being soul?

       
    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:13am

      His stance on unrestricted abortion is enough to cast doubt on this claim… “Ye shall know them by their fruit”. Christianity IS the real Religion of Peace. Islam on the other hand, is hate and death.

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    • tommee
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:37am

      Obama is more of a Christian than most of the so called people of faith who post on this website.

      Obama is living a Christian life by actually doing something real to help out the poor. Remember in the bible where much of Christ’s life was dedicated to helping out the poor? You can’t miss it. It’s a major theme. Obama managed to pass health insurance reform so that the less affluent need not die because of a lack of insurance. How many bloggers complain about the new law because it costs too much, or it is unfair and punishes the rich who may be required to pay more taxes to support it. How Christian is that?

      I would suggest you read your bible a little more because it is obvious you know very little of what is actually in it.

       
    • ltb
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:02am

      QweeQwa, it seems like you are the one judging. FYI, It’s not being judgmental to point out that someone is a liar, when that person is a liar. Obama said he became a Christian because he wanted to lead the kind of life where he treated others as they would treat him and where he would be his brothers’ and sisters’ keeper. First off, it’s “Treat others the same way you want them to treat you.” (Luke 6:31), not “treat others as they treat you,” so if Obama is counting on his futile efforts to emulate Jesus in order to gain favor with God, he might, at least, want to learn what Jesus said first. How would you like to be in on that conversation when Obama is telling God, “Oh!!!! Do unto others as YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU!!!! Woe!! I really messed that one up… so I guess getting back at all of my political enemies and calling Tea Partiers ‘Tea Baggers’ was THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted me to do… rrrr… uhhhh… do I get any points for good intentions?” Second, even if Obama weren’t doing the exact opposite of what Jesus teaches us to do, following the Golden Rule does not make someone a Christian. Finally, Obama has a brother whom he abandoned to a hut in Kenya. This is what he thinks it means to be his brother’s keeper? Really?

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    • ltb
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:24am

      So, tommee, this Christian life that Obama is leading… where does murdering helpless babies in their mother’s wombs fit in, or where does stealing from the rich fit in, or where does taking advice from atheist Marxist advisors fit in, or where does advocating marriage between two men fit in, or where does encouraging the slave labor of illegal Mexican immigrants fit it? I honestly want to believe that Obama is a Christian and while I have no idea if he is just saying that Jesus is his savior for political gain, I can say that his political views are the polar opposite of what Jesus teaches and that Obama is a pathological liar.

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    • trishrich
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:24am

      I agree. he made two speeches misquoting the Declaration of Independence, leaves out the creator and a day later wants us to believe that he is a christian. This man is a narcisst he does not know what he is other than he is in love with himself.

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    • RedStateBlues
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:26am

      Dresseller says “Professing Jesus Christ to get votes for your agenda is a big No-No I’m thinking.”

      @dresseller……Didn’t GW Bush do the same thing? Study your history. George did it first. Were you complaining then? *smirk*

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    • No Longer Silent
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:48am

      I don’t know of any Christian who would call the Savior a “historical” figure. I recently watched the videos of him distorting the Gospel. He is not convincing at all.

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    • SamFox
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 5:24pm

      Eraty, you are correct. 0′s remarks, especially when linked to other remarks he made, is disingenuous at best.

      What I find amusing in a troubling sort of way is that 0 says we must respect other religions path to grace. That would tacitly express the thought that all paths lead to heaven. Not to be ‘exclusive’, judgmental or superior, but Jesus said of Himself, “I am the way, the truth and the life! No one comes to the Father but by Me!” HE said that. I just repeat it. That Jesus is the ONLY way to know Father He illustrated when He said any one trying to get into His sheepfold by any other way than the door to the sheepfold are the same as thieves & robbers. He called Himself the door to the sheepfold.

      New Test. writers also concurred. Peter said of Jesus: ” Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. ”

      Timothy adds: ” For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;…”
      I just repeat what these men said. They were eye witnesses to the life, death. burial & resurrection of the Christ so I think they are credible sources of info about Jesus..

      I do think though that each individual is free to choose. In Mr. 0′s defense, to a degree, I would say that he was speaking in a public forum so he has, like Glenn, to be cognizant of other folks & their views. No huge problem 4 me considering the context, a public platform, of that particular remark. I did find it note worthy that he did not mention Jesus as His Savior. I also got the impression that Mr. 0 was not very comfortable talking about Jesus or the Bible.

      We should remember that 0 had commented earlier about collective salvation, a concept that is not found in the NT. Mr. 0 said that his ‘salvation’ [whatever that means to him] ‘depends on the salvation of ’ the collective’. Any one who has read & studied the NT knows better. IMO 0′s earlier comments together with these should help define & clarify what he said in this video in the fuller context of his religious beliefs.

      There is a ‘collective’ in the NT, but it is not what 0 seems to think. In the NT you will find that each individual must repent & place their faith in Jesus Christ‘s to experience God’s salvation that is available to EACH of us.. THEN & only then, are we placed, as individuals, into the ‘collective’ of Christ, which real Christians know as the Body of Christ, His Church or Bride. Those terms refer to the same network of Holy Spirit interlinked individuals of whom Christ is the head..

      Mr. 0 is not the 1st Prez or candidate to say they were Christians. Carter IMO lied as did Clinton & Bush. If these men were real, true Christians they would have kept their oath, or at least tried, to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign & domestic. That they took no stand against the ‘Federal’ Reserve, the freeway into the USA for the one world bankers is only one thing that tells me this. There are many ways they have lied & deceived, some more than others, as the USA has been ‘nudged’ towards a one world govt. 0 seems bent on shoving us there.

      What we have going on in DC & globally since 0 was elected, is IMO, the strongest rise of anti-Christ seen yet. I do not think 0 is THE anti-Christ. But I do believe that he & many other US Prezs are & have worked for it, as conduits or channels for world govt under satan, the father of lies
      All of them in small or large ways have sold US out to the New World Order that the Sr. Bush mentioned.

      A good Bible resource site is BibleGateway.com

      http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/

      SamFox

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    • 5000YRLEAPER
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:58pm

      Softball, that is the only game that Obama can play!

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    • 777phase
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:24pm

      Did you notice in the video he said, quote, “Treating others as they would treat me”. Didn’t Jesus say, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. This miss-quote should tells us a lot about Obama’s knowledge of Christianity and the teachings of Jusus Christ. Or the lack of it.

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    • 5000YRLEAPER
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:43pm

      Sicboy, you obviously don’t understand that “Mormon’s” and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are the exact same. “Mormon” is the derogatory name based upon the fact that they use that as scripture in conjunction with the Holy Bible. They profess Jesus Christ as their savior. Now, just because they have another book of scripture that teaches of Jesus Christ, doesn’t make them any less eligible to the atonement of Jesus Christ than you or me. The gospel is free to all, and them drink at His well of salvation freely. In the end, we shall judge according to the heart. Stop playing the hate game, that’s what divides us as a nation and a people under God.

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    • Diane
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 2:16am

      Clinton also tried to legalize partial birth abortion. When the president says Bill Clinton had it right…. It would also include Bill Clinton’s approval of partial birth abortion. Anyone who understands what partial birth abortion is would consider this without a doubt murder in a most horrific way. Mr. President….. you talk about late term abortion restrictions but then say Bill Clinton had it right. Which one is it?

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    • fathers_thought
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 7:32am

      He may have gone to a Sunday Church Meeting but he’s not christian.
      His Christianity is a convenience and is taken on only when he needs it for votes or sympathy.
      A quarter of the electorate have said he is Muslim. Not because of his faith but because of his support role and pandering to the Muslims ( and athiests and communists and any other anti-US foundation). He is a radical revolutionary and views us as an empire-building state who must be brought down into the new world order.
      We need to have term limits that limit and hopefully remove career politicians!

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