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San Francisco Voters Will Now Determine Legality of….Circumcision

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco voters in November will be asked to weigh in on what was until now a private family matter: male circumcision.

City elections officials confirmed Wednesday that an initiative that would ban the circumcision of males younger than 18 in San Francisco has received enough signatures to appear on the ballot. The practice would become a misdemeanor.

Supporters of the ban say male circumcision is a form of genital mutilation that should not be forced on a young child.

But opponents say such claims are alarmingly misleading, and call the proposal a clear violation of constitutionally protected religious freedoms.

The initiative’s backers say its progress is the biggest success story to date of a decades-old nationwide movement to end circumcision of male infants in the United States. A similar effort in Massachusetts last year failed to gain traction.

Comments (158)

  • TheGreyPiper
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:11pm

    Wonder if they know that their dear friends the Mohammadans also do the clip n flip? Seriously, though, I think there is a valid point to be made there. We get very worked up about a related procedure that Mohammadans and many non-Mohammadan black Africans do to the girls — why is doing it to boys OK, but doing it to girls is an atrocity? Do we really want to get into deep debates over where a religious practice might end and a cultural practice begins?

    And you who are defending the specific right of parents to do it to a newborn baby — what about the brans new babies you see with pierced ears? Is that OK? Well, ear piercings can close up, so maybe that’s not the same; not so permanent. How about a tattoo then?

    Full disclosure — yes, and each of my three sons too. Not religious, cultural/medical.

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  • Cold War Vet
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:05pm

    The government needs to stay out of peoples’ pants.

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  • AMERICA4EVER
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:02pm

    Funny that they don’t consider genital piercing a form of genital mutilation. They are nuts! No pun intended.

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  • DJ6ual
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:01pm

    Comments seem cRaZy SlOw to post tonight… Must be a lot of people here… Go Glenn!

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  • Captain Crunch
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:00pm

    Just another reason God is mad at those people on the left coast.

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  • geonj
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:00pm

    violates religious practices. also too much government interferance of the family.

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  • Blazer123
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:58pm

    What are the chances that the people pushing this are “pro choice”? I contend that’s a form of mutilation much worse than cutting off some skin…

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    • jbhansen
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:16pm

      Yeah, they‘re happy to take away everyone else’s ability to make their own “health care decisions” except their own…

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  • riseandshine
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:57pm

    Snip it!

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  • GadsdenPatriot
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:54pm

    Yet another Jewish tradition under attack by lefty tards.

    What’s next unleavened bread? Eat your flat bread sandwiches before Michelle attacks those too.

    Israel haters, all of them!

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:32pm

      Just wait until the muslims weigh in. They practice the same around age 15 for their males.

      Perhaps every self-respecting person of Jewish faith will now leave SF so God can lop it off and make it an offshore island for the criminally insane!

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  • Teaparty-grammy
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:51pm

    It was bound to happen–the Nanny State gets into everybody’s pants!

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  • jim
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:47pm

    Cirque de sole? Hey, that got thru!!

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:46pm

    Well, GOD’s gonna be happy about this one, SanFran! You all are just pushing that envelop, aren’t you?

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  • jim
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:43pm

    What happens when you make your bed, but there are too many sheets and they get all tangled up with debris? What happens when you put on your raincoat, but its two sizes too big, and you end up with a sloppy mess when it rains? What happens when you put on a glove big enough that O.J. could wear, and you find that you can’t grip anything… this is what San Fran has to look forward to.

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    • WHITE LOTUS2x
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:12pm

      Jim……..you went through the woods, over the mountain and across the river sucessfuly. Congradulations Mr. Jim. Lotus.

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  • chips1
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:43pm

    What do they mean it failed to gain traction in Mass? I thought that was the whole purpose.

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  • chips1
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:38pm

    If it was good enough for Pelosi, then it’s good enough for me.

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  • i want the truth
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:37pm

    More Liberals at work!! USing your tax dollars!! What a waste of time. What is the unemployment rate there? Don’t they have better things to be getting all excited about? I think SF can’t be saved.

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    • Sam Brown
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:09am

      ‘The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
      because he loves what is behind him.’ G. K. Chesterton

      The progresives work to destroy the family and destroy tradition so there is no family unit or foundation to rely on. The socialist have allways hated the Jews and their traditions.

      Sam

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  • Lone Ranger
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:36pm

    Wait. Let’s see if I understand this. San Francisco is allowing VOTERS to decide something? Some liberal judge had better clear his calendar for the day after the vote because, if the libs lose, they will be camped out on his doorstep to have the poll overturned.

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    • DJ6ual
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:11pm

      San Francisco has always operated like an individual “State”. When I lived with my ex-boyfriend we got a P.O.Box in San Fransisco solely to receive a magazine that at the time was exclusive to that area. When we broke up the State of California, who does NOT recognize common law marriage, told us we had to go thru a “divorce” because due to having an address in the San Fransisco zip code we were legally considered residing together and the application for the box listed my last name as my ex-bf’s last name. We eventually got an annulment but we never should have had to thru that at all. I think it is ridiculous that a city gets such special treatment, if they want that much freedom they should petition to become a separate state.

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    • Lone Ranger
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:40pm

      Actually, San Francisco would be wonderful — if it weren’t for all those San Franciscans. Love Chinatown.

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  • Deda1
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:35pm

    So it is ok for SF’s to spread aids and other diseases and they are worried about religion? Thanks to Obama, the MSM and the DemoNazis.

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    • WHITE LOTUS2x
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:02pm

      Deda1……they are more interested in slamming the Jews than preventing deadly vds. Lotus.

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  • jim
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:33pm

    Okay, I tried R, PG, now here is the G version of my post: My, I’m surprised that the non-heterosexual electorate is backing this one… it makes special “touching” between two parties of the same gender somewhat difficult.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:40pm

      I have no idea what is going on with the filters on this site. But if they are that touchy, maybe they shouldn’t put stories like this on their News Site.

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  • shodaninva
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:25pm

    Not even an inch……just the “tip”!

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  • NuffSaid
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:22pm

    First it was Gay Pride Parades, coyotes, then “Bay to Breakers Debauchery.” Now San Francisco, often refer to as “Bagdad by the Bay,“ will be known as the ”City of Natural Penises.” Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

    I picture bonfires at Coit Tower, wild dancing in the streets at the Pyramid building.

    Saint Andreas, where are you when we need you?

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  • BrerRabbit
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:15pm

    Just keep the HE?$ out of my life!

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:14pm

    To paraphrase the feminist movement: keep your damn hands of my…man parts.

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  • Tillierose
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:09pm

    THIS IS INSANE!!! Give a Left-Wing an inch and they take your life!

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    • Showtime
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:26pm

      Oh, I’m so tempted!

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:59pm

      LOL Showtime.

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    • Whitey4West
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:27pm

      here, i’ll say it…
      give the left an inch, and they’ll keep your foreskin!!

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    • Welcome Black Carter
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:29pm

      Go figure, they are fine with aborting the child… jumping for joy actually, just don’t cause any pain if for some unknown reason they are allowed to live. When is open season on liberals?

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    • cassandra
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 7:46am

      their OK with killing babies though, let mexico have Ca. back but they are gonna have to pay all the wellfare and state pensions

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  • Showtime
    Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:09pm

    Not “there” as in San Francisco! “There” as in well, uh, I stepped right into it, didn’t I?!

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:12pm

      I left my oysters in San Franpsycho

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    • SnapTie
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:20pm

      That’s how the perverts in SF say. “ Now we go some skin in the game ”

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    • Restored One
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:20pm

      Okay, SF, think about it………they like the extra skin inside and out.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:23pm

      Stop making a mountain out of a mohel

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:25pm

      I am ready to start a petition to remove one of the stars from the flag. And the star I‘m thinking of is California’s. Think about it for a minute. Name one, just one, good sane and sensible thing to come out of California in the last 20 years. I say make a deal with Mexico, They can have California back if they drop all claims to the rest of Atzlan. But I’m afraid not even Mexico is stupid enought to go for that deal.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:29pm

      Maybe if they put glitter on it afterwards, it would be legal.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:34pm

      This is interesting. if you put the word Circom$sion in your post, it is censored, and yet that is what the story is about.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:35pm

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Maybe if they put glitter on it afterwards, it would be legal.
      ————-
      You mean like vajazzle ?
      I’d like that :D

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    • LAM2
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:36pm

      Leftists who don’t want to take off their hoods — what’s new?

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:36pm

      yea u did…. :praying: for the big one to hit San Fran taking all the libs, berkeley loving, hippies, dope smoking, tree hugging, birkenstock wearing degenerates into the depths of hell

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:36pm

      Just think, in Mass. they saved all of those clippings and made a Barney Frank out of them. In SF, maybe they could make a more feminine version of Pelosi.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:37pm

      4 out of 5 liberals prefer circ$###ised men. Most liberal women do too.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:38pm

      @cheezwhiz
      They tried rinestones, it chaffed too much.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:38pm

      How long will the progressives be allowed control of San Francisco and the rest of CA? how long until it goes into the ocean for good?

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:40pm

      This is an miniature example of the future USA if the Progressives and the liberals continue to take more and more control over the nation; they will intrude into everything and there will be no stopping them from every decision being made for us…complete takeover across the board.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:41pm

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      In SF, maybe they could make a more feminine version of Pelosi.
      ————–
      We already have a female version of Pelosi.
      Its called James Carville

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:41pm

      @Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      2012?

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:43pm

      What will happen to the JUNK collectors??

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:47pm

      @cheezwhiz
      I still say James Carville is a bad cloning experiment that escaped the swamps. He is a perfect reason cousins don’t marry. His accent is so bad Cajuns say “What”. They did a CAT scan on his head and found Clintons anus, and it was malignate.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:53pm

      banjarmon
      What will happen to the JUNK collectors??
      ——————–
      I’m sure they are scared stiff… about their future

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:57pm

      I was brutally humiliated and mutilated when I was an infant when my precious, ugly foreskin was taken from my innocent penis….
      far as I can tell, every chick I been with digs it….
      Thanks, Mom and Dad!

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:58pm

      First they come for the tip, next will be the head.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:01pm

      @My Sacred Honor
      I just ran PCMatic, and PCMatic said, it preferred snipped to wrinkled. Thanks PCMatic.
      PCMatic also said, the Libs should keep out of my pants, my wife gets jealous.

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:03pm

      My Sacred Honor – TMI brother.

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:03pm
      My Sacred Honor – TMI brother

      LOL Your sister dug it!
      JUST KIDDING! Don’t come after me for the rest!
      OH WOW! My media player is randomly playing Rammstein’s “Mein Tiel” which is a true story about a guy who goes into a resteraunt, cuts off his own junk and eats it….

      Talk about “TMI”!

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:15pm

      Hey Blaze. If you are going to continuosly delete any post with suggestive wording, just remove the story. COME ON. You are deleting posts faster than people can post.
      Are you shocked there is gambling in the Casino?

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:16pm

      Hey it’s just separation of church and state! I left my foreskin in San Francisco…has catchy a ring to it

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:19pm

      What the heck, no more turtlenecks only ant eaters in San Freako

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    • SWFLA
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:12pm

      Freedom of religion ends in San Francisco if this passes and you are of the Jewish faith. You won’t be able to live in the city limits. Think the Rabbi’s should get together and contact the ACLU.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:52pm

      @SWFLA
      Anyone with morals left that city years ago, Sodom and Gamorah, just don’t loot back.

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    • mharry860
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:54pm

      Darmok’s on a roll.

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    • Contrarian51
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:53am

      It’s just a little surprising that children are still being born in San Francisco. For sure, I suspect very few are being conceived there.

      Is this restricting freedom of some religious practices? I would think so.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 2:23am

      @ Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      All weeweed up are we today ?

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    • nptden
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 2:41am

      When will we start eliminating communists? Time to give California back to Mexico and put troops on the borders.

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 4:58am

      So, abortion is still A-O-K, but they’re concerned about infants having a “right to choose” whether they want to keep their foreskin?

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    • avenger
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 6:29am

      wow…a movement to ban penis abuse in san fran….what a surprise……

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    • D.L
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 7:50am

      What I see happening here is that its a practice that God told the Jewish people to practice thousands of years ago beginning with Abraham. I don’t think its so much the practice than it is where it comes from.(the Jewish people.) Seeing how Californians treat pro-Israeli politicians the other day, this really does not surprise me that much that this is happening. Not to mention that its been medically proven to be healthier for guys anyway to be circ. Hope this makes sense…

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    • Bill
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 8:52am

      What a way to waste money that they do not have.

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    • Jarski
      Posted on May 19, 2011 at 10:51am

      I was working in my jewelry shop when a customer held out his hand and said “Sir, come size me”

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    • libertynow
      Posted on May 20, 2011 at 9:10pm

      These idiots need something to do with thier time.

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