Santorum Criticizes Obama Administration Condemning Iranian Nuclear Scientist Killing
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At a campaign stop at a diner in Greenville, South Carolina, Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum said the U.S. should not have condemned the killing of Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan. He was killed last week after bombs attached to his car by passing motorcyclists exploded. Santorum believes the administration’s approach does not reflect a hard line on stopping Iran’s nuclear weapons program.
According to the AP, he said: “Our country condemned it. My feeling is we should have kept our mouth shut.”
Responding to a question in Greenville, he said he supports missile strikes to stop its nuclear program, if Iran refuses to submit to inspections.
“If these are people who are developing a weapon to be used to either destroy the state of Israel or to spread terror — a reign of terror — around the world, we shouldn’t be sitting on the sidelines and letting it happen,” he said. “They cannot have a nuclear weapon, because you, in Greenville, will not be safe.”
The Obama administration took several opportunities to deny involvement in the attack. National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said: “The United States had absolutely nothing to do with this.”
At a press conference with the Qatari Prime Minister Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said:
“I want to categorically deny any United States involvement in any kind of act of violence inside Iran. We believe that there has to be an understanding between Iran, its neighbors, and the international community that finds a way forward for it to end its provocative behavior, end its search for nuclear weapons, and rejoin the international community and be a productive member of it.”
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta also vehemently denied U.S. involvement in the killing. AFP reports:
During a meeting with soldiers at a Texas military base, Panetta said the United States was “not involved in any way, in any way with regards to the assassination that took place there.”
“I’m not sure who was involved. We have some ideas as to who might be involved. But we don’t know exactly who was involved,” he added.
The administration also condemned the killing – which Santorum took issue with – and went so far as to call the victim “innocent.” State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland on Wednesday said:
“We’ve seen the reports of the death of the Iranian scientist as a result of an apparent bombing. We condemn any assassination or attack on an innocent person, and we express our sympathies to the family.”
As Santorum suggested, the words coming out of Washington raise questions about the extent of President Obama’s commitment to ensuring Iran does not develop a nuclear weapons capability. If Iran is developing weapons of mass destruction, combined with the Islamic Republic’s statements about destroying the State of Israel, do nuclear scientists then fall into the terrorist category acceptable for targeted killing? Is a focused covert war preferable and less costly than all out bombing?
The Telegraph explored the issue: Is it moral to kill Iran’s nuclear scientists? Though it’s unknown who exactly was behind the assassination, The Telegraph wrote:
The Israelis believe that anyone who knowingly participates in developing weapons of mass destruction or terrorism should be aware that these are not risk-free activities. Iranian scientists know full well that electronic switches are used in nuclear triggers, and that enriching uranium beyond a certain percentage is not for the production of medical isotopes. And they accept the considerable financial rewards involved. If there are questions about the morality of killing such men, there are questions about the morality of their work in the first place…
They work for a regime that has explicitly threatened Israel (and by implication many ambient Palestinians) with such a weapon.
Speculation continues to abound regarding who may have carried out the attack. TIME magazine believes it was the Mossad, while Israeli President Shimon Peres says to the best of his knowledge, Israel was not behind it.
Israel’s military spokesman, Brig. Gen. Yoav Mordechai while stressing he didn’t know who was behind the killing, wrote on his Facebook page: “I will definitely not shed a tear for him.”
Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi says his country has “credible” evidence it was the work of the CIA. Iran also sent a letter to the British Foreign Office claiming the MI6 was also involved.
In the cloak and dagger world of international espionage, it may be years before anyone reveals how the hit occurred.
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weldman7
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:40pmTime_2_educate_the_morons_now_in_12
Report Post »Again I ask if we are truly in a war on terror like you seem to believe. Then why would you not feel empathy for the Iranians? A man was brutally murdered in the street. The word sympathy was not used empathy means that you have an understanding of what they feel. As I have stated in many of my posts. Please go see your local recruiter if you want war with Iran that bad. The brave young men and woman in service to this country currently have done more than their fair share already.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:46pmSomeone please tell me why our Leaders always have an enemy for us to fear and hate. That goes for all Leaders around the world. Do you think it is to keep us focused on something else besides them? Just look at Iran. It is such a Great Threat that we have resorted to the use Dolphins. We are Playing with Dolphins to keep the Strait of Hormuz open. You have to be kidding me what are they going to block it with, their fleet of Boston Whalers? Iran couldn’t block the Strait of Hormuz anymore then they could stop the earth from spinning. They cant even Refine their own gasoline.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:57pmSo, because many CITIZENS are good, we should not have a strong military presence in the region to assure our interests?? (oil supply – which they profit from)
Are you old enough to remember gas rationing? Mile-long lines for gas? Gas on odd/even days? 20% interest on mortgages? Hyperinflation? Jimmy Carter?
We are seeing Jimmy Carter 2.0 right now. obama hopes to inflate away our debt, rather than pursue a responsible fiscal policy.
When Mom’s fixed income is made worthless due to hyperinflation, are you ready to support her?
Report Post »How about the millions of elderly, disabled, and others on fixed incomes?
Ready to pay $15 a gallon for gas? $20 for a gallon of milk? $20 for that cheeseburger at Mickey D’s?
$375.00 for Levi’s? $5,000.00 for that iPhone? $2700 a month for electricity? $20,000 a month for your mortgage? Make certain you don’t have an ARM!
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:04pmWELDMAN. I was probably taking heat from VC, PAVN, NVA, NLF long before you were a twinkle in someone’s eye. If you’re going to assume something about me, then I’ll assume you are part of the 99% of young and du… sorry, young and misinformed Obama and Paul groupies.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:05pm@recovering…
Ever heard of MINES? They are these things that you put in water so that boats cannot use that water. Because, if they TRY and they bump one of the mines they go kaboom!
Dolphin equipped w cameras, miniature drone submarines, etc. are viable means of searching for mines.
Or, we can just bury our heads in the sand and pretend there is no evil in the world and that all is hunky dorey. But then that is what got us in this situation to begin with.
“The cost of FREEDOM is ETERNAL VIGILANCE.”
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:13pmTomFerrari I really don’t see your point. The more conflict we have in the world will bring about what you said. The point I am making is all the arm chair Generals here are hyping up the war propaganda so we can attack Iran. My point is we do not need this again and Ricky boy don’t care a lick he is chomping at the bit to do this and all the knuckle draggers are on the band wagon. I don’t think one more drop of American blood needs to be spilled fighting these stupid wars.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:17pm@tom
We have aircraft carriers. Why do we need bases? Aircraft carriers are safe from IEDs, suicide bombers, mortars, and crazed gun men. Our planes are very advanced and hard to shoot down. So our presence can stay in the air. No country in the world will act us with one of our carrier battle groups close by.
Remember, no other country in the world has a navy like ours. No other country in the world has a carrier battle group. We have 11 4 acre bases that can go 6 miles off any coast in the world safely with no need to rebuild or give candy bars to the locals. The American armed forces arent feared because of our ground troops. They are feared because of the air strikes and naval cruise missile strikes.
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:23pmTime_2_educate_the_morons_now_in_12 So what you are saying is your old and bitter ala the idiot John McCain. We are not going away because we feel we are right and you need to stop looking for a boogy man in every closet.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:24pmTomFerrari
I like how you pick up on my sarcasm and avoid the big questions. Maybe I shouldn’t have mention Marine Land, then you might be able to focus on the issues. I will rephrase it just for you.
Someone please tell me why our Leaders always have an enemy for us to fear and hate. That goes for all Leaders around the world. Do you think it is to keep us focused on something else besides them? Just look at Iran. You have to be kidding me what are they going to block it with, their fleet of Boston Whalers? Iran couldn’t block the Strait of Hormuz anymore then they could stop the earth from spinning. They cant even Refine their own gasoline.
Is this better?
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:29pmDr. Paul answers the Iran nuke question
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTB0GF5zk6k
TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:33pm@martinez…
Report Post »Fear is not the best or only motivator. While our air and naval power does wield the power of fear, it is our ground troops that make us loved.
When you spank your child you don’t swing your belt from 10 feet away then walk away saying your child deserved it. No, you punish your child then immediately reinforce how much you love them by hugging them and explaining why their behavior was wrong. Then you keep working with your child until their behavior is modified and they learn to behave without you. With the eventual goal of rearing a responsible self sufficient honest adult.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:37pmHmmmmm, nice comment WELDMAN. Expected as much from the Ron Paul contingent of arm-chair military strategists and know-nothing Code-Pink style anti-war, anti-mlitary pacifists. Most of you Military wizards here wouldn’t know the difference between the front and rear of even a claymore mine… even though it’s spelled out in BIG BOLD LETTERS. Stick with what you guys know. WAIT! I’m still trying to figure out what that is? Oh yes, now I remember… Ron Paul GOOD, Republicans BAD. That’s okay, we get that all the time from the Obama groupies. Sometimes we’re not quite sure which band of Code-Pink pacifists we’re talking too. Actually I think Code-Pink would be more in the Ron Paul 99% these days.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:44pm@recovering, no, it is no better. As you pointed out, I am incapable of your level of reasoning. Ah if only I could be like you.
Did you even read my response?
You ASKED how they could close the Strait. I told you.
Report Post »As for your question of WHY all the warmongering…
Your question is predicated on the claim that it is warmongering for some nefarious purpose.
I would first have to accept that claim before I could answer your question.
And, while I do accept that there are people with such motives, I do not NECESSARILY accept that the full weight of the United States military has been compromised by such people.
On the other hand… obama’s “retreat” from Iraq is and was entirely politically motivated.
War should be a LAST resort. The CAPACITY and capability for war should be perpetual. (we shoul be ever ready. )
“The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance.”
rose-ellen
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:50pmAnd he calls himself a catholic/ Going around murdering unarmed civilians is acceptable to him/ tyhe ends justify the means/ His religion is americanism -there’s nothig christian in his belief in pre-emptive war or hunting people down like a mafioso to be murdered!And by the way -though he is against abortion in all cases[as i am] he if elected would not lift a finger to actively take steps to overthrow roe vs.wade and to outlaw abortion.You who support him for his pro life strance are being guloled by another social liberalThe only thing he will act on is a genocidal anti/muslim agenda including preemptive war.Nothing christian about him-his master is americanism-not Jesus Christ.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:01pm@Time
Claymores are best used in a zig, zag pattern such as:
\.
/, to maximize enemy combatants exposure to the killing field. Additional, fields of fire should, overlab but not………..I think you get my point.
Boyo, your blood lust is abysmal, really is that Golden triangle PTSD under control?
FYI, my cancer is “DOW” in origin, 3x survived.
Here’s the bad news, do you remember those spitting juckfobs when you came home? Well they were and are very stupid juckfobs, because the America they h8 is now the one they work for. It’s a socialist globalist America, was then is now. That’s whom your and my friends died for, and now I want them utterly defeated in my nation, Finally we have a chance, to see an end to their crap, but no, men who bleed on the field never bothered to identify the enemy within. And they willing do the same things all over again, utter insanity.
If America crash’s, and it’s well on the way, take your purple people pleaser and shove it where your head already is.
Sorry, but it beats fraggin’ you.
\. /
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:22pmSorry BETTERDAYS. You haven’t told me anything worthwhile. Funny thing, I was never spit on either. Some advice for you… keep your hands off your clacker.
Report Post »Ming The Merciless
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:13pm@recovering neocon – great YT vid on Santorum flip flop on the tea party.
Rick is a phony!
Do you think Glenn would ever devote a show or 3 to the history of the tea party movement and the hi-jacking of it?
Nah…. no way in h – e double hockey sticks would he. Because then Glenn would have to support Ron Paul or else a candidate who no one has ever heard of running 3rd or 4th party.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:30pmWELDMAN7, Your liberal commie frineds at the university probably educated the Iranian Nuclear scientist. WIth friends like yours we don’t need enemies.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:30pmI would suggest that all Ron Paul & Rick Santorum voters vote for Gingrich in SC to put a stop on the Romney train. This will easily defeat Romney if either side were to strategically jump toward Gingrich.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:44pmPatrick Henry II
Newt cant even make it to an event. Please!
Where’s Newt? SC campaign stumbles plague Gingrich
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GINGRICH_STAGECRAFT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-01-15-10-09-53
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:49pmTomFerrari
Iran doesn’t have the capability to close the straights, period. Mines or no mines. That being said, here is the question again.
Someone please tell me why our Leaders always have an enemy for us to fear and hate. That goes for all Leaders around the world. Do you think it is to keep us focused on something else besides them?
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 6:42pm.
Report Post »Should have given him/her The Presidental Medal of Freedom………..
TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 6:56pm@recovering…
Objection!
Asked and answered.
I
Report Post »Should you wish to ignore or overlook or dismiss my response again, kindly refer to my prior response. Others will find my responses to you there. I have answered your questions and am finished reading this thread. Good evening.
Ming The Merciless
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 7:56pm@recovering neoncon – ding, ding ding – right on! Looks like your recovery is going great! Keep on getting better.
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 7:56pmTime_2_educate_the_morons_now_in_12
Report Post »Your current strategy is working just fine isn’t it. Lets see 4000 plus soldiers killed in Iraq and for what nothing! We have left Iraq and they are killing each other again! Yeah that was great strategy you sure put me in my place. Whats happening in Afghanistan we invaded and the guy we were looking for was in Pakistan and after we finally kill him losing many brave soldiers we don’t have the sense to leave. Is that another example of that great strategy. Face it your a total failure now go back to your gruel and take a nap.
martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 8:02pm@tom
Comparing spanking our children to war is just silly. This isnt a video game. When we fight we should fight to kill the enemy. This isnt a spanking. Our troops are sent with a goal of killing the enemy and making sure we dont lose troops.
You think that putting troops on the ground is our way of showing that we care. I wouldnt trade one American live for all of Iran.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 8:22pmTomFerrari
Report Post »I was asking everyone here not only you. So I was looking for more then one response. “ Someone” And the question was not aimed at the USA alone, it was about all leaders. “That goes for all Leaders around the world.” Sorry, misunderstanding and for not being more to the point.
jzs
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:06pmYes, the US could lay Iran to waste, even without nuclear weapons. We could reduce Iran’s ability to sell oil to zero in the time it takes for 1000 cruise missiles to strike from wherever they are launched.
But don’t think the US has the advantage in the gulf, for all our seagoing power. Google Millennium Challenge 2002, a war simulation in the Persian Gulf, and one of the most elaborate war games the US has ever undertaken (google it). In the simulation, the rogue Arab state (presumably Iran), sunk the entire US battleship group in one day with a combination of small, fast ships firing cruise missiles, shore launched cruise missiles and suicide attacks, both by land and sea.
We can kick their rear ends, but it won’t be because of a battleship group in the Persian Gulf.
Iran really can shut down the Gulf with mines, fast missile carrying boats and so on. But to clear the Gulf, we’d basically need to lay their entire country to waste.
http://www.rense.com/general64/fore.htm
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 11:10pmJust so I have this straight, Santorum is saying that when the United States of America is accused of assasination of an Iranian citizen, the US should say “no comment” or “we’ll neither confirm or deny complicity in the assignation”? That‘s in America’s best interest? And to do otherwise is weakness?
That would certainly be a departure from a century or two of US foreign policy. That’s the kind of crazy stuff we expect from North Korea and Iran. Thank God that Santorum has no chance to win the presidency. He sounds like one of those Imams in Iran.
Report Post »Callie369
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:14amI empathize with the CITIZENS of Iran. They begged us for help and Dumbama turned his back on them. We didn’t have to send our military, but arms could have made the difference for these people.
As for commenting on the death of the nuclear scientist, Dumbama should have kept his mouth shut. Everytime he opens it he makes a fool of himself and makes the U.S. look like a nation of idiots.
And as for the marines p i s s i n g on dead taliban members, they should be given a medal! Dumbama doesn’t seem to remember Americans being beheaded, gutted and hung from bridges! Of course he loves the muslims and their islam religion cult so much, he ignors what they do.
We have a president AKA Idiot-in-Chief, Campaigner-in-Chief, Dumbama and (gorilla-faced wife Moocherella), Dumb and (gorilla-faced wife Dumber), etc. I have seen so many nicknames for him and his gorilla-faced wife, it is unblelievable. Google or Bing the word a-hole (spelled out), and you will see millions of hits available!!!!!!
Report Post »JRook
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:37amAs Ron Paul has tried to educate us these type of mindless statements by RS are they exact type of foreign policy statements that have led the US into the no win situation we are in all over the world. We have proven over and over again, that our foreign policy is either to support big business at the expense of the developing country or throw a war. It is not possible to argue that Israel is more deserving of nuclear weapons than any of it’s neighbors. Why no call for Israel to give up its nuclear program.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 5:53pmSenator Davis noted, “Ron Paul’s record matches his rhetoric, his fiscal plan matches the fiscal challenges that our nation is facing, and his movement represents the taxpayers whose interests have been ignored in the political process for far too long.”
“I’m also endorsing him because unlike what the pundits have led you to believe, he is the candidate who gives the Republican Party the best chance to beat Barack Obama in November.”
Report Post »PingPongPing
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:30pmIt was Bush’s fault…! Lol!
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:42pmTo all the PauIbots hijacking this thread…
Report Post »I will commit to voting for Dr PauI of he gets the nomination..
but only if you will commit to voting for the party’s nominee regardless of who it is.
Otherwise, it is YOU who are re-electing obama.
TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:44pmAre you sure it wasn‘t the TEA Party’s fault??
Report Post »I do get confused who I am supposed to be blaming for obama’s EPIC #FAIL !
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:49pmSantorum on the Tea Party.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TVoVqvt74
weldman7
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:04pmWhy do you consider it hijacking TomFerrari? Are we not invited to the Blazes party? The time is now the primaries have started only one candidate has the courage to change our middle east policies make real cuts in spending and he is real. It is time to stop settling for the guy that they trot out in front of us. Have you ever took a minute to ask yourself why they hate Ron Paul so much? I truly believe it goes to the old saying the truth hurts. If we had a little bit of peace what would that hurt?
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:12pm@weldman…
By definition, thread hijacking is dominating a thread discussion, especially when it is off topic.
The article is about Santorum, Iran, and Obama. But the bots consistently dominate the conversation with pro-Paul, anti-everybody else discussion. That is hijacking.
You are certainly as welcome as I or anyone else. It is not “the blaze’s party.”
Report Post »As you are well aware it is a news site that is open to all to comment. I do think they have comment rules and policies, though. Plus, it is simply good manners not to hijack threads.
TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:18pmOh, as for having a little peace… I’m for a LOT of peace.
However, I’m not going to take the locks off my windows and doors and declare I am safe!
No, I am going to foster safety in my community, foster prosperity in my community, and keep my locks. Only a fool would sell the doors off of their house so they could keep spending money on iPads and big screen TVs.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:33pmTomFerrari
Report Post »You sound a lot like BHO when it comes to information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB0Paw-bNSg
CatB
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:44pm@TOM
I have said the same thing and gotten no positive reponses from Paul supporters …
btw .. just got invitation for a Santorum rally a week from Tuesday in Florida .. hope we have good weather it is at a park on the water. Excitied about hearing from the man himself … without any edits or pundits trying to spin …
OMG .. Obama MUST go 2012!
Report Post »bpodlesnik
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:58amBecause of responses from Paulbots such as recoveringneocon, my willingness to vote for Paul if he gets the nomination, goes farther and farther away.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 6:55pmbpodlesnik
Im sorry you feel that way. But I will not be silenced from the truth.
Judge Napolitano – Are they LYING To You?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPRj3yhuVs
abbygirl1994
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:29pmAnd this is what I am afraid of with Santorum.. Lets start WWIII.. Really we have enough problems already.. Lets just pick up where Bush and Obama left off, hell no lets start another war with Iran.. God help us!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:38pmand to think this is the guy all those religous folks just endorsed…We are rotten from the inside out
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:14pmABBEYGIRL and SOYBOMB, has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. Has everything to do with keeping a nuclear weapon out or the hands out of the hands of IMADAMNNUTJOB, who is not only bent on the destruction of Isael but also the US, and he’s not opposed to risk killing himself and the Iranian people to meet ALLAH, who is a false God to begin with.
If you think for one minute that the wacko Iranian leadership is not developing a nuclear weapon and will not use it, you are greatly mistaken and do not understand the radical Muslim mentality, a fatal mistake.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:05pmWhat have we learned about pre-emptive wars? Mostly that they are based upon false assumptions and pushed by special interests who benefit from perpetual war.
What evidence do we have that IF they develop the bomb, that they WILL use it. You have to understand the mentality of the Iranian regime. They are thugs and are scared that the people of Iran will revolt against them. So the Iranian regime makes the USA/Israel the ‘boogeyman’ to keep the people distracted. Besides, Israel has enough nukes to wipe out Iran. Like i said, they are scared to lose power. The Iranian regime is not suicidal and therefore would NOT use a nuke against Israel.
Just like in the USA, the Iranian regime benefits from these political skirmishes. The true threat to the Iranian regime is freedom of their people and their desire for a greater future for their children.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:59amIf in fact, Iran has developed or close to developing a Nuclear device, THEY WILL USE IT! Ahmadinajad has said repeatedly that even if millions of his people die in the conflict, if Israel is eliminated, it will be worth it. What do we do? You answer that one.
As far as the Strait of Hormuz is concerned, with so much of the world getting oil from the Gulf region, Ifv Iran tried to shut it down by attacking ships passing through, the retribution would be swift and devastating for all of southern Iran. By the time the rest of the oil users are through, Iran couldn’t throw a toothpick at anybody.
The coming of WWIII? When the entire Eurozone collapses, gas prices hit 8 to 10 dollars per gallon because of closeure of the Strait of Hormuz , food prices skyrocket worldwide (Especially in poor countries), one or two devastating natural disasters hit almost simultaneously further disrupting the civilized world, well then desparation takes over and all hell breaks loose. I pray that none of this will happen but we are already near the tipping point.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:28pmMARTINEZ No way of attacking us?Really?
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:07pmYeah please tell me how Iran could attack us.
They dont have a missile that can hit us.
They dont have a navy that could get to us.
They dont have a air force that could get to us.
They dont have enough troop transports to make a land invasion even if they some how got all of their troops to lets say Mexico.
I can predict what you will say. “They will build a nuke and give it to the terrorist”. Honestly if the terrorist could get a nuke and get it into the United States it would have already happened. Could it happen yes, but very unlikely. If Iran does get a bomb, they are going to try and use it against Israel. Hence why we should unshackle Israel and allow them to defend themselves. If they feel they are going to be attacked, they will strike. Something about reading history allows me to know this insight.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:17pmMARTINEZ, Taking out a carrier would have an exceedingly great impact and damage to America, and it’s like horseshoes, you just have to get close for a kill.
Report Post »sallyredneck
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:22pmAny other time it takes weeks for Obama to make up his mind, humm wounder why his lips were flapping so quickly on this murder.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:35pm@soy… Using your logic, even an individual should be able to waltz into Walmart and buy a nuke.
Report Post »Let’s discuss FACTS, not hypotheticals, as there are literally an infinite number of hypothetical arguments on all sides of a discussion, thus it is only grandstanding and NOTHING is actually accomplished.
soybomb315
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:44pmfact: no stores are allowed to sell nukes.
However, countries can sell anything they want to other countries. For instance, we just recently sold Saudi Arabia a ton of fighther jets. No, there is nothing stopping iran from buying a nuke from china or russia.
Another thing to consider. Our country is shutting down their central bank and not allowing them to sell oil via money exchange… I can easily see a scenario where they trade oil for nuke (barter) in order to avoid the money problem
Report Post »Marine25
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:30pmShouldn’t take long to condemn terrorism, should it?
Report Post »Unless you are for terrorism.
A lot of men and women have given their lives fighting to destroy the organizations trained to use tactics like this. Yet so many on this site would rather slam the President for condemning terrorism than admit he did the right thing and that Santorum is just trying to gain some support from the chicken-hawks in the tea-party. Anybody else condemns this and they get commended. Obama says it and he’s a secret Muslim.
You can now stop wondering why more and more Americans are rejecting the tea-party because they percieve the tea partiers as racists.
President Obama gave the order to kill OBL, yet was criticized by the Glenn Beck crowd for any number of illogical and insane reasons, especially curious because seemingly no one except the comedians criticized President Bush for bragging that he “no longer wasted time worrying about finding Osama bin Ladin”. I was among those who were were worrying about finding him and we were disappointed seeing our Commander in Chief in a youtube video mockingly searching for bin Ladin under his oval office desk. I was at Fort Delaram FOB when he pulled that stunt. No one challenged his patriotism for that insult to our troops. Yet this President is attacked for condemning an act of terrorism. I am as white as white can be, and I have always voted Republican, but it‘s pretty apparent to me that most people’s biggest problem with this President
Marine25
Posted on January 17, 2012 at 2:34pmbut it‘s pretty apparent to me that most people’s biggest problem with this President is that he is not white. You can scream all you want. But listen to FOX, read conservative boards like this, all taken over by tea baggers who are pissed we got bin Ladin on Obama‘s watch and apparently ticked that he doesn’t support terrorist car bombings. Deny it all you want. But there are two things no man will ever admit to being, a bigot or a hypocrite. The conservative movement is being hijacked by plenty of both.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:18pmObama admiistration diplomacy is all about apoligizing and kissimg a**. So they’ll get agreements with the Talibam, China, and Russia. Nothing is working. Taliban’s waiting on our planned exit from Afghanistan, the ‘reset’ button with Russia isn’t working, and China is the Pacific power today. The Obama administration is a Paper Tiger to the world, and full of hot air too.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:16pmProverbs 19:20 Deceit is in the hearts of those who plot evil, but those who promote peace have joy.
Psalm 34:14 Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.
Psalm 120:6 Too long have I lived among those who hate peace. I am for peace; but when I speak, they are for war.
Proverbs 17:27 The one who has knowledge uses words with restraint, and whoever has understanding is even-tempered.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:26amIn a perfect world, every one of these quotes would be true. Unfortunately, we don’t live in a perfect world. With lunatics like Ahmadinajad, Kim Il Jong (Now Dead) and his progeny Kim Il Un and other Communist maniacs who want to take over the world. The Moslem brotherhood, Al Queida, the Taliban and a host of other lesser known entities all bent on the distruction of the western way of life and the forced conversion on the entire world to Islam. A few Mega Rich people who want to become world dictators or control someone in that position so they can mold the world for their benefit and theirs only, these utopian passages are fodder for their diabolical plans. Basically, they say, YOU be peaceful and make nice while I do what ever I want to obtain my goals.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:07pmAmerica’s newest gameshow… ‘pick the appeaser and apologist.’ The spirit of Neville Chamberlain is your guest host today.
First Question: Who said it for $20.12.
Appearing on _____ News’ ________ Friday, ______________________ said America should have [empathy for Iran] after one of their nuclear scientists was killed in a car bomb.
__________ said that “obviously” the Iranian government wouldn’t kill their own scientists.
“This is an [act of terrorism] and we should [empathize] with them,” __________ said.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:14pmThe guy that is going to get enough write in votes if you morons dont wake up to make sure Obama is elected for four more years.
Sorry to break it to you, but the Paul campaign isnt ending. We are tired of the same old thing. Its time for real change.
We have surrounded them with bases, we have moved 3 carrier groups near their country. We are starting sanctions against them. After the sanctions, we put up a no fly zone. After the no fly zone, we bomb them. After we bomb them we invade them. After we invade them we rebuild them.
Is a country that has no possible way of attacking us worth a trillion dollars? Is a country that cannot even make its own gasoline worth one American soldiers life?
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:18pmThe statement was made for comparisons sake. If the United States of America truly is in a war on terror then we should help the Iranians with the terror problem it faces right? Or is that too logical for you? Time_2_educate_the_morons_now_in_12
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
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Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:23pmQuestion # 2 for a Vote for Cynthia McKinney button.
When asked what the United States should do if Iran does retaliate by killing an American, ________ dodged, saying that the U.S. should have “done a lot less a lot sooner.”
_______ never really answered _____________ question.
Instead, __________ continued to blame American foreign policy for turmoil in the world, just as he blamed U.S. foreign policy for the terror attack of 9/11.
When asked how he would respond if Iran closed down the Straits of Hormuz, ________ dismissed the notion, claiming Iran would never do such a thing.
“But they have to say something to make us think differently” about putting sanctions on them.
Again, he never answered how he would respond, and continued to blame America for any actions Iran might take.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:25pmHas Iran attacked anybody? Do hateful words of a government mean anything? Who decides whether a country can pursue nuclear tecnnology? Can a country like Iran just buy a nuke from china or russia?
What if the Iranian government spews hateful words towards the west only to try to keep power within their own country? What if response by the USA only strengthens the government of Iran?
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:28pmCan you afford $15.00 loaves of bread? $10.00 gallon of gasoline?
Report Post »In a nation with no domestic petroleum capacity, dependent upon the middle east for oil, we are. Ot only reliant upon their oil to keep our economy running, but we are helpless against any reduction in oil supply. Thus we are left with no option BUT to guarantee that supply by any means, which means military readiness and presence in the region. Now, once we have excess capacity to supply our own energy, we can certainly discuss a laisse faire policy. Until then, it is optimisticly naive to think otherwise.
BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:34pm@Time
Report Post »I wonder what you would call it if someone put a device under one of our scientists cars that caused his death? A coincidence? A regrettable accident? A act of GOD ?
It’s painfully obvious you spend a lot of time h8ing Ron Paul and very little on thinking before you post the fact you h8 him.
What part of Constitutional authority to declare war is in Congress and Congress alone do you fail to grasp? If Congress were to declare a war and President Paul is in office then guess what numbskull, we go to war.
Why do you fear your freedoms so much that you give them away without a fight?
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:38pmTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Or should I say Yepimatroll? We can see that you think very highly of yourself, but lets just see what Reagan Thought of Dr. Paul.
“Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.”
– Ronald Reagan
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:03pmRECOVERINGNEOCON. That’s my guy Reagan… always loyal. Now why don’t you post the letter that Ron Paul wrote regarding Reagan? His infamous “chickens have yet come home to roost” letter where this disloyal disingenous and hypocritical little disheveled twerp Paul dissed Reagan personally and then the Republican Party, then came crawling back.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:58pmYepima4paulinTheEnd
Report Post »The letter was to Reagan not about Reagan. Good try tho
by the way how is the trailer skirting?
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Posted on January 15, 2012 at 7:44pmIn a letter that echoed the prevailing Democrat talking points of the day Paul wrote, “The chickens have yet to come home to roost, but they will, and America will suffer from a Reaganomics that is nothing but warmed-over Keynesianism.” That letter was not merely an act of breathtaking betrayal — it actually compares Reagan to Josef Stalin — its characterization of Reagan’s economic policies is utterly absurd.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:09pmYepimatroll
Everything you have just said could not be farther from the truth. Nice try though. Here is the Proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:52pmWhoa hoss!
We’re talking about Obama vis-a-vis the Iranian mullahs and Obama isn’t going to come down on their side? Where have you been hiding, under a rock?
From the summer of 2009 when Obama would not lift a finger to help the Iranaian middle class protestors to pulling out of Iraq and handing the country over to the mullahs, you are seeing Richard Daley corrupt politics taken to the international level.
Did you really think that all those “Internet contributions” to Obama in 2008 came from Kansas City? Get a grip. Tens of thousands of pre-paid Visa cards at a thousand dollars per copy distributed to the faithful members of the Iranian Guard. That wouldn’t be very difficult to pull off, would it? And, guess what? They’re going to do it again in Novemeber 2012.
Why won’t the Republicrats do any thing about it? They want their chance to wallow in all that cash!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:58pmSeriously shut up idiot.
Obama the US President that is surrounded by more Jews than Benjamin Netanyu is really a Muslim funded by the Revolutionairy Guard of Iran?? Ok. Seriously.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:49pmThe only way the United States could lose is by going bankrupt and changing our morals.
Bankrupt – Check
Losing our morals – Check
We are no different than the animals we are fighting. We have already lost this war.
We have one chance left to save this country before Osama Bin Laden wins.
Ron Paul 2012. I am voting for him regardless. You can either vote for Ron Paul or get four more with Obama.
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:00pmIt’s going to be a real cluster. Obama(D) versus Romney(R) versus Paul(I) and none of them want to talk about internal security threats posed by the open border and coddling of the Muslim Brotherhood. I wonder if Ron Reagan would have dined at the White House with a member of the MB?
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:01pmFor all the Ron Paul boosting, your chance is coming to vote for him to be the Republican Candidate. I am in Ron Pauls district, and I will vote for him in the primary, but if some one else wins I’ll vote for him, not Obama.
Report Post »Just saying that a vote for Perry, Romney, or Santorum is not a vote for Obama. However, writing in Paul, or not voting because he did not win the Primary is a vote for Obama.
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Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:01pmObama or Ron Paul ?
Appearing on ____ News’ ______ Friday, said America should have [empathy for Iran] after one of their nuclear scientists was killed in a car bomb.
_____ said that “obviously” the Iranian government wouldn’t kill their own scientists.
“This is an [act of terrorism] and we should empathize with them,” _____ said.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:08pmjohnpaulkuchtajr
If elected President, Ron Paul will work to implement the following common sense reforms:
* Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.
* No Amnesty – The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.
* Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.
* End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.
* Protect Lawful Immigrants – As President, Ron Paul will encourage legal immigration by streamlining the entry process without rewarding lawbreakers.
As long as our borders remain wide open, the security and safety of the American people are at stake.
Report Post »CottonMPG
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:45pmIran can not be allowed to get a nuke. I decided to vote for Santorum after he almost won Iowa. He’ll be getting 3 votes from my household.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:51pm2 here .. in Florida Primary on the 31st …
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:55pmSo you like more spending, no cuts, more federal government control, more wars? Do you happen to have a family member that will have to go to Iran to fight in the military?
Ron Paul is getting my vote. None of the other candidates have a shot of beating Obama with out the “Paulbots”. So you really have a only one shot of getting rid of Obama. Its Ron Paul.
Its time for mutiny to save our country.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:02pmCottonMPG
How can ricky win?
Santorum, didn’t get on the ballot in Virginia or the District of Columbia. His campaign also filed incomplete slates of delegates in Illinois and Ohio, which could limit his ability to win delegates in those key states.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/53297511-68/ballot-delegates-candidates-primary.html.csp
Virginia alone is 10% of Super Tuesday.
Report Post »Zoe
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:04pm7 from our house – wait only 2 legal age to vote —- I should have the dog move to New Hampshire so she can vote…..She’s old enough
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:11pmWhat didn’t the obama administration just keep their mouth shut about this? This nuke scientist was “innocent”? Another example of how this AH president is looking out for Israeli security? Any Jewish person that votes for obama might as well have slit their own throat,it would be quicker and less painful! Let’s hear it from all the anti-semite idiots out there,we all know what good guys the iranians are!
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:23pmDid you vote for Adolph Hitler, also?
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:47pmRick can’t win, sorry.
Report Post »And Iran already is thought to have at least two thermonuclear devices, or so the west German intelligence community reported.
Nuclear program of Iran – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Overview · History · Laptop and “alleged … · Nuclear power as a …
… Jane’s Defence Weekly cited reports from West German intelligence that Iran may have a nuclear bomb … nuclear weapons, but this does not mean that Iran …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran · Cached page
Being a Seimans, the worlds foremost supplier of nuclear capable electronics devices is West German, I‘m betting we aren’t being told something more specific.
Do you know who started the first nuclear project within Iran? America, as in us.
Please reconsider voting for Rick, thanks all the same no matter how you end up voting.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:40pmRicky does a great job of criticizing others, but lets look how he voted.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea;
Voted to hand out hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid to enemies of Israel.
Supporting raising taxes on oil companies, which directly costs Americans more money out of their pockets at the gas pump and deters drilling in the U.S.
How did any of this make Israel and The United States safer? How did any of this make us less depended on foreign oil?
Report Post »Viper1
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:58pmYou can deflect as much as you want, but I don‘t see the new pipeline from Canada working it’s way across America supplying jobs and helping with energy independence. I don’t see us drilling everywhere that we have oil. I don’t see the gulf being set free to help Americans to help themselves. Drill here, Drill now, produce jobs and protect America. Let those foreign governments choke on their oil. Stop closing coal fired plants and instead work whole heartedly at stopping bad emissions from those plants. Above all else, work for what is best for America and stop supporting NOBAMA.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:05pmWhat we need is a President with a real Plan .
A PRO-ENERGY PRESIDENT
Report Post »As President, Ron Paul will lead the fight to:
* Remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home.
* Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers.
* Lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power.
* Eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create – not to Washington.
* Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies.
Zoe
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:05pmRicky it is……………
Report Post »Warrior4Zion
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:27pmRick is the only one that will step up and take Israel’s enemy Iran out! I salute him for that. We need to just overlook his big gov’t big spending ways because he will defend our ally. Santorum is ready to take it to the infidels and I’m with him. We need to take the Middle East back for Christ! Time to quit playing nice with these Muslims. Besides God stands with the Jews because they are his chosen and we’ve been commanded in the Word to fight for them!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:34pmI have to agree with Santorum, we should have said nothing on this matter.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:52pm@SNOW .. ditto.
Report Post »Zoe
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:07pmKid always run their mouths- Those who aren’t connected talk trash like they are…..
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:29pmObama does’nt have the nads for something like this, this was mossaud all the way… Like Ron Paul says , let the israeli’s handle their own affairs…. They are more than capable, and NO, im not a Paulbot.. But i do agree with pulling back globally……
Report Post »robh
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:40pmI agree with Santorum. I mean, if (when) U.S./Israeli involvement is discovered, mealy mouthed politicians will further expose the liars they are.
“We CONDEMN it.”
later . . .
“Well, yeah. We did it. BUT WE STILL CONDEMN IT!”
I mean the administration sincerely believes they can get more votes if they lie rather than take a stance, like Santorum, that we believe is right.
I say, be assertive about it, be aggressive about protecting America and Americans, and LEAD according to American values and principles. The principles of right and wrong; good versus evil.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:42pmFYI there are other Counties in the Area that have a vested interest in delaying Iran’s Nuclear Ambitions …….Namely Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have the Money and Infrastructure to do what is in their National Interest, which is to Not have to go toe to toe with Iran as a counter balance, which will be a very very expensive endeavor. So is it not cheaper to hire a couple of goons with a motorcycle.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:50pmThe fingerprints of the Israelis is all over this. No other country has survival in mind like they do. They did it behind the back of the US administration…Thank God!
Leave Israel alone to take care of the vermin and stop holding them back.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
paperpushermj
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:02pmIt is possible the Israelis pulled this assassination off. But it helps to understand there are other players in the area that have an interest that Iran’s Nuclear ambitions are hampered. IMO Iran sees itself as the areas Historical power center, the Persians look down on the Arabs, therefor the Arabs have a reason to thwart Persian push for Hegemony.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:10pmAchmadinajab(sp?but who really cares how we spell that evil little man’s name) and the mullahs have vowed to destroy Israel and America.
Why wouldn’t they think the nuclear weapon is the perfect way to go. Our federal government under this administration will always defend the Muslim instead of Israel if indeed Israel was responsible.
None of us know who planted the bomb that killed that scientist and we probably will never know but I doubt he was innocent.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:51pmMickey alldirtydinnerjacket
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:08pmRick, that statement goes towards “plausible deniability”, or that should have been the only reasoning to make it, Since Obama, our chief appologyst made it the context is somewhat in doubt, and questionable. Therefor I’m going to cut you some slack “O grandson of Red Communists” by saying if you never heard of “plausible deniability” then you’ve given another reason why you need to keep the job you now have.
Report Post »Ron Paul knows what plausible deniability is, Paul 2012.
Vechorik
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:05pmIsrael has begged that the US STOP TALKING ABOUT WAR — guess the presidential candidates didn’t get the message.
Israel knows that any war will be very detrimental to them.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:52pmI’m not convinced that Israel thinks they can stop Iran from acquiring a Nuclear Bomb. The best they could do with a strike is to place a temporary stop to the program. The question the US and Israel are asking themselves is what will the cost be for a Temporary stoppage and will the bill be to high?
Report Post »amsmith41974
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:04pm@ Rebel, the difference is we are not sponsoring terrorism as Iran loudly and proudly does. Iran and its leaders have vowed to drive Israel into the sea and like it or not as THE leader of the free world we have an obligation to ourselves and allies to defend and protect our interests. You Ron Paulophiles need to pull your collective heads out of the sand.
How cowardly of our gov’t to point fingers at our allies as we vehemently deny responsibility. If we didn’t do it then sit down and shut up. The denial was made implicitly to continue to stir developments in the middle east and encourages Iran to do something stupid.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:24pm@AM
Report Post »Should Israel be attacked by anyone, Iran in this case, when Ron Paul is president we will honor our treaty with them and defend them with all our armed forces. Why can I state this with such confidence? Because the public outcry would cause Congress to make a declaration of war, something it hasn’t done since WWII BTW, and President Paul knows that means war because it’s constitutional.
Why can’t you anti-Paulists wrap your brains around self evident truths as simple to grasp as this?
Really, that was a serious question, why would you even begin to believe that a man who stands for the rule of law and the constitution would be an oligarch like Obama and Bush are/ were?
I’m just aghast at the rank, unthinking, falsehoods spoken here sometimes.
Baddoggy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:55pmWell said Betterdays…people do not understand the Constitution. They certainly have not tasted the true LIBERTY that could be if Dr Paul were our President…Freedom from Government teat suckers, Freedom from burdensom regulations and rules and Freedom to live as we see wit without an intrusive government to tell us right from wrong!
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:09pm@am
If we are not targeting civilians we are no better than the terrorist that attacked our civilians.
Santorum is trying to play the Jesus card, but honestly “what would Jesus do”? Would Jesus assassinate civilian scientists? How about “what would George Washington do? Would he be for invading a country that has no way of attacking us?
Wake up!
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:22pmBetterdays
Report Post »Understand under a Paul Presidency the Military will be reduced to the point that Future presidents will not have an Effective Military response available to them. Pulling Military assets back to the shores of the United States will Gut the Military, thereby making the World a more dangerous place.
BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:43pm@Paper
Thanks for your reply.
I’d be very interested in read any link where Dr. Paul speaks too those cuts you reference, if you would please.
With what Obama and Penetta ( latter has very heavy Democratic Socialist of America ties BTW) are presently doing to our military Ron would only have to cut one person if what you say is true. Have you been paying close attention to the cuts. The following link is a bing page full of what the socialist is doing RIGHT NOW: http://www.bing.com/search?q=obama+cuts+military&form=APIPA1
National Defense | Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee
Report Post »PROVEN LEADERSHIP “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well t
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-de · Cached page
Sorry, I must respectfully disagree, based upon fact not supposition.
louise
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:50pmBetterdays….major announcement from Ron Paul today at 6:00 pm EST at Myrtle Beach!
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:07pmBetterdays
Report Post »I’m taking Dr Paul at his word. He says our forward deployment of our Military Assets cause other Nation States to React. He gives me the opinion he will remove US Military from Europe, Japan and maybe Korea. The equipment can be mothballed or sold but the human element will need to be returned to the private sector. Dr Paul’s words of cutting the War Dept. but not Defense is IMO is Political Weasel talk
thriceconcussed
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:27pmYou’re the one being led by propaganda, get your head out of the sand.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:30pm@paper
Report Post »I feel you, and some of our force must stay overseas, in particular the MOS I was in while I served in the NAVY, it just can‘t be moved because it’s logistically impossible and far to great a national security risk to not keep. I think the same bellwether would apply to other bases as well, but we shall see.
______________________
Louise:
Dailypaul says it’s a major endorsement, I’m thinking a “mint” has joined our cause.
Shasta
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 3:41pmlouise, is Paul dropping out of the race? That would be great.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 4:16pmNo Shasta…we wont quit until Ron Paul is your President…We promise! LOL
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:03pmLets send them another drone wrapped in flowers to express our condolences in the loss of those who would help further empower their nuclear program.
Report Post »Dumb asses.
dutchy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:02pmYes Santorum! He is my hero for standing up for freedom and free people everywhere! Santorum for president in 2012!!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:27pmAll hail comrade Santorum.
Report Post »We vote for him because as a republican candidate we don’t care that he has communist ties like Obama has, we only care that we don’t have a “D” in the White House.
With thinking like that, we are burnt toast.
Baddoggy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:57pmKilling others makes us free? Hell then lets wipe out the Middle East now! Think before you back a Nazi wannabe.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:09pm@baddoggy
Killing others makes us free? Hell then lets wipe out the Middle East now!
We were held up by the British; so we killed a couple boat loads, and we were free.
Report Post »We were attacked and our freedom challenged by the Japs in WWII, we killed a million or so, and we were free.
The Germans killed 6 million Jews, we killed a million or so Germans and the Jews were free.
Need I go on.
Please think before you make statements.
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:26pmmacpappy
We fought the British for our Independence, Liberty and Freedom
Report Post »We fought the Japanese because they attacked us
We fought the Germans because they were allies with the Japanese , not because of the Jewish people.
Why are we going to War with Iran? Who have they attacked?
Need I go On?
Please think before you make statements. Reading some history may help.
vtxphantom
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:01pmobama is just bowing again. I would think he has back problems for all the a$$ kissing he does.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 12:58pmI agree .. we should have made no comment about it … sometimes saying nothing says more than saying something .. and especially when you say the wrong thing.
OMG … Obama MUST go 2012!
Report Post »auntbea
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 12:54pmIn other words, the administration wants Iran to nuke us, or they don’t. Which is it?
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:03pmiran has no nukes or ICBMs. there is no way they could harm the US.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:31pmYes and they are not working on getting them or the materials to make them either … (sarcasm in case you didn’t get it) .. don’t forget they are also working on ways to deploy them.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:01pmThe Iranians cant get a missle program up and running enough to lob a watermelon over a fence. If they do, Israel will take it out. And they wont even break a sweat. Israel has enough nukes to toast Iran a 400 times over..They can take out all their enemies at any time and still have a huge arsenal left…Wake up America! Let Israel take care of Iran..
Report Post »louise
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:44pmBaddoggy,
Report Post »just a heads up here…..
There will be a major announcement in Myrtle Beach at 6;00 EST today From Ron Paul. Pass the word along since there is nothing on the Blaze about Ron Paul. You can catch the info over at dailypaul.com
I.Gaspar
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 12:46pmInnocent victim…
Report Post »There they go again…picking the wrong side once again.
Maybe we should send flowers and a Mass card…or some pork chops to the family of the innocent victim.
We are being led by lunatics.
rock-n-roll-rebel
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 12:41pmLooking at this completely objectively if Iran killed some of our scientists that were creating weapons of mass destruction it would be accepted world wide that it was state sponsored terrorism.
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 1:59pmThe US should have said nothing ! I agree with Santorum on this one . I’m pulling fir someone different to win the nomination .
Report Post »Roaran
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:09pm@RockNRoll
Exactly…
Rick Santorum just blatantly demonstrated that he is PRO State-Sponsored Terrorism… only when its us. How incredibly hypocritical does Santorum need to be before people reject him?
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