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Santorum to CPAC: ‘America Belongs to God’

Another potential GOP contender in 2012, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, used his time on the CPAC dais Thursday to deliver strong criticisms of President Barack Obama’s first two years in office and stood out as a distinct social conservative.

Liberals and progressives are trying to change America’s divine footing, Santorum warned the conservative gathering. He went on to describe God’s role in the founding of the United States and the social issues that “bind us together.” When it comes to those issues, Santorum noted, “just because it‘s not popular doesn’t mean it’s not true.”

“The Judiciary cannot create life, and it did not create marriage, and it has no right to redefine either one,” he continued. “America belongs to God,” Santorum said, “and we are the stewards of that great gift.”

“We believe in the dignity of life, the stability and strength of the family, of self sufficiency,” he said. “That’s what makes America the greatest country in the world, the social issues.”

“It’s not just the third leg of a stool, ladies and gentlemen, the moral issues, the cultural issues, the social issues, they’re the fabric the stool is made from,” he said, invoking Ronald Reagan‘s famous description of the GOP’s three pillars: strong economic, foreign policy and social conservatism. “Those are the issues that matter. Those are the issues that bind us together, and those are the issues that we cannot retreat on.”

Santorum also contrasted himself with Obama on foreign policy issues, namely the ongoing turmoil in Egypt.

“What does the president of the United States do? He sides with the protesters,” Santorum said. “I am not suggesting that we shouldn’t side with the protestors but what message are we sending to countries around the world who are friends of ours – when things get tough we walk away.”

Obama “doesn’t believe America is exceptional,“ does see America as a ”force for disruption, and even evil,” and won’t “say that jihadism is evil,” he added.

On domestic policy, Santorum also emphasized the need to minimize federal intrusion which he said leads to widespread reliance on government. “My grandfather didn’t come to this country because we had 99 weeks of unemployment benefits,” he said.

In recent days, the media has zeroed in on an apparent feud brewing between Santorum and another possible GOP 2012 contender, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. But Santorum downplayed any hint of controversy Thursday, blaming speculation of a rift on “shoddy journalism.”

“They took things I said out of context and, in fact, not just out of context but they implied things that I meant when clearly I didn’t,” Santorum told ABC News in an exclusive interview at CPAC. “I think it’s shoddy journalism no one called me on it, no one asked me what I meant and to my knowledge they didn’t ask the interviewer about it.”

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  • Vanmin
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:13am

    Ya Mr. Santorum, we will NOT submit to your God.

    We will NOT bow down to your fascism.

    We will NOT subjugate ourselves to the wills of your imaginary deity.

    We will NOT sell our freedom to voodooism.

    We will NOT be pushed down the dungeons of irrationality.

    You, sir, have taken this country mistaken as your monthly gathering of ignorants. The war is on.

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    • vaughan
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:14pm

      War? What war is that? Your commandments of “we will not” is very informative. My faith doesn’t deal with “we will not”……more like “Thou shalt not” but it also contains “love thy neighbor as thyself…” so ‘Vanmin’ prayer and love is coming your way from most of the people who are on this site……and may God keep you in his love forever.

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    • ldpeters
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:24pm

      Maybe a roadmap from triple AAA would help you. Sorry. All I can help you with is your desired destination(s) are due east of here. Have a nice trip. Give our regards to Hosni.

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    • JesusFreak95
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 8:49am

      I don‘t know about Santorum’s God, but you WILL submit to THE One True Lord at some time, in life or after. You have the right to deny God in this country, but without our foundation being based on God, you would not have that right. Bit of a paradox isn’t it? You can deny the wind too, but the fact is you will be influenced by it. You live at God’s mercy, even more they you live at the wind’s mercy.

      Secularism in pure form is the biggest farce you can buy into. Because when you boil down secularism, it is “majority rule”. American is not a Govt. of “majority rule”, as has been pointed out, if that were the case, all you would need to do is get enough people together to form a “majority” and over ride our laws and constitution. It is not that simple, if it were, we could easily be taken over from within. The sad fact is, that as we push God out of the public and legislative process, that is EXACTLY what we are opening ourselves up for. With God acknowledged as the source of our Freedoms, it is not subject to men to change those Freedoms. Once you relegate that to “man”, you are relegated to man’s vices, and eventually, anything goes, homosexuality, pedophilia, prostitution, drugs, etc. We are already heading down that road. Many will claim that is “freedom”. Indeed, God gave us the right to choose between right and wrong. You may think you are free by choosing what God has proclaimed as wrong, but in the end is death and misery. True freedom is in understanding and believing what God says about you, and acknowledging He knows what’s better for you then you do yourself. In the end God is always vindicated.

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  • Konacow
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:58am

    This was posted by “Non-sequitur”
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:22am
    “And Christianity is just like Islam, because both are religions!”

    Well this is FALSE, Christianity is a personnel relationship with JESUS CHRIST, Islam is a religion made by man. JESUS CHRIST formed CHRISTIANITY by dying on the Cross for the Salvation of men if they accept Him as their personnel Lord and Savior.

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  • tommee
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:56am

    What Would Jesus Cut?… by Jim Wallis

    House Republicans announced a plan yesterday to cut $43 billion in domestic spending and international aid, while increasing spending for military and defense by another $8 billion. This proposal comes just months after billions of dollars were added to the deficit with an extension of tax cuts to the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. House Republicans focused in on only 12 percent of federal spending, and targeted things like education, the environment, food safety, law enforcement, infrastructure, and transportation — programs that benefit or protect most Americans. They also proposed cutting funding for programs that benefit the most vulnerable members of our society, such as nutrition programs for our poorest women and children. We don’t yet know all the cuts Republicans are targeting in their proposals, but it’s good to finally know what their priorities are.

    Under the proposed budget cuts, deficit reduction will not come from the super-rich; it will come from the rest of us. And the poorer you are, the more vulnerable you become, and the more you will pay for the burdens of deficit reduction. For example, Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), a program that helps provide food to hungry mothers and their children faces a $758 million cut. Also, the proposed budget cuts $544 million in international food aid grants for organizations such as World Vision. AmeriCorps, a program that provides public service opportunities for our young adults, would be eliminated entirely. But our military and defense budget, which sends our young adults off to kill and be killed, would receive an $8 billion increase.

    It used to be very popular for Christians to ask, “What Would Jesus Do?” They even wore bracelets with the initials “WWJD.” The bracelets acted as reminders that as Christians, our actions should always reflect the values and example we see in the life of Jesus. Already, in a first wave of response to the proposed cuts, thousands of Christians told their members of Congress that they need to ask themselves, “What Would Jesus Cut?” They believe, and so do I, that the moral test of any society is how it treats its poorest and most vulnerable citizens. And that is exactly what the Bible says, over and over again.

    I believe that vaccines that save children’s lives; bed nets that protect them from malaria; and food that keeps their families from starving are more important to Jesus than tax cuts for the rich; bigger subsidies for corporations; and more weapons in a world already filled with conflict. I also believe that tested and effective domestic programs that clearly help to lift people out of poverty are more reflective of the compassion of Christ than tax and spending policies that make the super-rich even richer. And I don’t believe, as the Republicans keep saying, that the best way to help everybody is to keep helping the super-rich. That’s not smart economics and, as we say in the evangelical community, it’s not biblical. So many of us in the faith community are ready to make a moral argument against the proposed budget cuts to our members of Congress, especially to those who claim to be people of faith.
    Organizations like Bread for the World and Catholic Charities advocate for critical nutrition programs that keep hunger at bay for millions of American families. Groups such as Habitat for Humanity, the Salvation Army, and the Christian Community Development Association deliver crucial health and human services around the country that hold neighborhoods and cities together. Government aid to programs like these is money very well spent, and many would have to shut their doors without it. Government funding is critical to the work that faith-based organizations like World Vision and Catholic Relief Services do around the world to bring millions of children and families out of poverty, and public-private partnerships pioneered by foundations such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that are saving millions of lives.
    In Great Britain, Prime Minister Cameron made the choice to delay a costly nuclear submarine program while also increasing funding for international aid. We can do the same. Look to leaders in the faith community to say that the choice to protect the rich instead of the poor in deficit reduction is an immoral one. Taking the cutting knife to programs that benefit low-income people, while refusing to scrutinize the much larger blank checks we keep giving to defense contractors and corporate executives, is hypocritical and cruel. I’ll go even further and say that such a twisted moral calculus for the nation’s fiscal policy is simply not fair, and not right. It is not only bad economics, but also bad religion. The priorities we are now seeing are not consistent with Christian, Jewish, or Muslim values. And if the super-rich and their representatives in Congress persist in this fight against the poor, they will be picking a fight with all of us.

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    • seanmom
      Posted on February 12, 2011 at 12:36am

      This is nonsense. Jesus did not tell anyone to use the government to do the work of the church. It is not the government’s responsibility to provide charity; that is the responsibility of the church. There is no Biblical injunction to redistribute wealth against the wishes of those who have it. “What Would Jesus Do?” Mr. Wallis? DIE. For you. So that you might one day enter into the presence of a Holy God. And RISE AGAIN. So that you, even you, have the hope of resurrection into eternity. WWJD? WEEP, for we have twisted our document of self-governance that once upheld His values, and claimed from them a right to murder more than 50 million innocent unborn people. WARN that God’s justice does not sleep. WANT us to return to Him. WAIT for our final decision. WATCH both over us and and as we run to the evil that He hates. And finally, regretfully, WEEP again, as He draws the final days to an end as far too many hold high their stubborn heads–until all bend the knee and all confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Whether they want to or not.

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    • tommee
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 8:52am

      TOMMEE
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 8:44am
      Hey SEANMOM… The American government is of the people and for the people. I‘ve made it a little easier for you to read your bible so that you can truly understand what’s in it.

      “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.’”
      -Matthew 25:41-45

      “If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.”
      -Proverbs 21:13

      “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.”
      -Proverbs 31:8-9

      “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”
      -Matthew 6:24

      “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.’”
      -Matthew 19:23-24

      “He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.”
      -Proverbs 17:5

      “He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich–both come to poverty.”
      -Proverbs 22:16

      “Jesus answered, ‘If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.’”
      -Matthew 19:21

      “He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses.”
      -Proverbs 28:27

      “People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.”
      -1 Timothy 6:9-10

      “Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.”
      -1 Timothy 6:17-19

      “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
      -Ezekiel 16:49

      “Rich and poor have this in common: The LORD is the Maker of them all.”
      -Proverbs 22:2

      “He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.”
      -Proverbs 14:31

      “A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor.”
      -Proverbs 22:9

      “Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a rich man whose ways are perverse.”
      -Proverbs 28:6

      “A faithful man will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.”
      -Proverbs 28:20

      “The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.”
      -Proverbs 29:7

      “Wealth is worthless in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death.”
      -Proverbs 11:4

      “Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them.”
      -Proverbs 22:22-23

      “Do not wear yourself out to get rich; have the wisdom to show restraint. Cast but a glance at riches, and they are gone, for they will surely sprout wings and fly off to the sky like an eagle.”
      -Proverbs 23:4-5

      “Whoever loves money never has money enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income. This too is meaningless.”
      -Ecclesiastes 5:10

      “A good name is more desirable than great riches; to be esteemed is better than silver or gold.”
      -Proverbs 22:1

      “There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.”
      -Deuteronomy 15:11

      “Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have.”
      -Hebrews 13:5

      “You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor, but the Lord is their refuge.”
      -Psalm 14:6

      “He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and He will reward him for what he has done.”
      -Proverbs 19:17

      “A rich man may be wise in his own eyes, but a poor man who has discernment sees through him.”
      -Proverbs 28:11

      “A fortune made by a lying tongue is a fleeting vapor and a deadly snare.”
      -Proverbs 21:6

      “The wealth of the rich is their fortified city; they imagine it an unscalable wall.”
      -Proverbs 18:11

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  • ronmorgen
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:55am

    ‘America Belongs to God’, it started that way, and has been blessed because of that fact.

    Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
    He is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever he does prospers.
    Psalms 1

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  • bomberotom
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:30am

    @suthenboy, its easy to link atheism to things like socialism and the sort because with God comes the natural law, and absolute truths and without those, its hard to be anything but the opposite of a conservative. Conservatism is not only fiscal issues, we put heavy importance on things like abortion, and gay marriage, and many other of these moral issues. From God we get these morals to have the right decisions known to us and to hopefully make the right choice. Without God, there woiuldnt really be a conservative movement at all. No disrespect, just answering your question

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    • suthenboy
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:44pm

      Bomber- I am familiar with those arguments. At the crux of all that are inalienable rights that our creator has endowed us with, amoung them: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness ( one could also argue privacy). If they are endowed by a creator then governments have no right to take them away etc etc….disposing of this idea to justify taking them away is what I meant by some atheism being self serving. The ones who do this are not genuine atheists, just narcissistic amoralists.

      I have been told that belief in a creator is essential to belief in inalienable rights, and that it presents an intractable problem for the atheist. Not so.
      Consider…..I can plainly see that all men are endowed with a nose. You and I may disagree on the source of that endowment but neither of us would argue that those noses arent there. The same holds true for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We can both see that the majority of human beings strive for and desire those things. It is plain to the honest atheist just as it is to the honest christian that this is something inherent in human beings. To deny so is absurd.
      We can disagree about where it comes from, but I hope neither of us is going to argue that noses dont exist.

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  • suthenboy
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:25am

    C’mon Gonzo, its not a shame that everyone doesnt see things the way you do. Remember Washingtons analogy of the marketplace of ideas………..

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:49am

    It’s a shame that the statement ‘America Belongs to God’ is at all controversial.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:06am

      Why?

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21am

      Why?

      I don’t want my country to belong to the god that said in Psalm 137:9 this wretched and vile thing

      “9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants
      and dashes them against the rocks.”

      Santorum has got a lot of ass trying to defend unborn children with a religion that expresses such evil sentiments.

      Read your damn bibles, folks.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:54am

      Christianity has always believed that the Old Testament revealed God’s truth in an imperfect form, as a shadow pointing toward the fuller revelation. God did not speak those words in the Psalm. The Psalmist did. These words can only be seen as coming from one inspired from God when they are read within their historical context. Divine inspiration is historical and progressive, and thus rrelative. In those days NO ONE thought differently about acts of war. God took a barbarous people and gradually educated them. Consequently, when Jesus came and established the church it was ready to proclaim in word and deed God’s love even for its enemies.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:03am

      Isles

      If that is the case you must now throw out the entire book of Psalms because it is “not perfect” and obviously written by man. But don’t stop there. The whole thing is man-made.

      Furthermore, the Constitution is not a revealed work. It was not written by Jesus. Therefore; interjecting religious faith into our Constitution is a perversion of it and our Republic. By the Constitution’s man-made design, all religion is seperate of the state. Let’s keep it that way.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:51am

      I don’t throw out the imperfect. Rather I discern the more perfect from the less perfect. I filter out what is purely human in order to perceive the divine. The more divine truth I kn ow the easier it is to do this with less perfect examples of God’s truth. We ALL are imperfect vessels but God uses us anyways.

      Can you relate to Hamlet? It is a tale of a 10th century Dane told in a early 17th century theatrical form. Our modern society has moved on quite a lot from all of them, and yet there are universal human concepts and principles that shine through in that play. If you can read Hamlet or Beowulf or Gilgamesh you can read the Psalms and see the human struggle and how God relates to human beings struggling to live within their own times. the Psalmist in question was reflecting the desire for Justice when the wicked are punished and the righteous are victorius, when evil no longer gets to win. this is something all people yearn for. they do it from within their own understanding of who are the wicked and what is the nature of victory over them. Desire for Justice is a good desire, even if its particular expression is imperfect or warped.

      Dashing a baby’s brains out was a typical 6th century BC concept of total victory over the enemy. I accept that historical reality but choose to translate it to a more enlightened context. When I read that that psalm I resonate with the psalmist but I interpret the words metaphorically for my own application, understanding what St Paul said, that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities and powers (spiritual and philosophical forces).

      In this context the psalmist is telling me that evil will not always prevail. Even if things seem to be going against us, as it was for the psalmist living in exile in Babylon, we have faith that the tables will turn and the forces of good will prevail over evil and that victory will be complete.

      As for the Constitution, no one believes that God wrote it or that it is perfect or even inspired in the way the sacred Scriptures were inspired. But we look at it as the best thing enlightened men have yet produced, and this because they were enlightened by principles that have been rebvealed by God. God’s hand was on this in a more perfect way than we have ever seen in the direction of nations since the nation of Israel was formed.

      Even an athiest can look to the Constitution and conclude that it is the best man has produced. As believers in God we are simply saying that it wasn’t an accident and if God cared enough to help us make it then perhaps he will take an interest in us preserving or restoring it. The Psalmist proclaimed that God is not sitting back at a distance. I believe that.

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  • suthenboy
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:43am

    If you need to believe in god, then by all means, do. If your belief is somehow part of your patriotism or value system, great. I believe firmly in inherent rights, but I dont believe in the supernatural. I am a staunch conservative and a firm atheist. It bothers me that most conservatives link atheism with socialism….while I see many ‘liberal’( i.e. socialists) atheists or agnostics in the public arena, all of the atheists I know personally are solid conservatives and libertarians.

    Off the cuff I think the ones in the public sphere adopt atheism for self serving (but logically flawed) reasons, while the average – everyday atheist hold beliefs based on their honest assessments of the evidence. Whatever the case, it is a debate we should have another time in another arena.

    It is a strategic mistake for conservatives to invoke religion in the name of politics as it scares away many potential allies from the independant / moderate crowd. I certainly did not vote for Obama. I was raised in the country on a farm, so I know a snake when I see one and I recognize bull excrement when it is presented to me. I dont think he and his freak-show could have gotten where they are except that many in the middle were scared away from conservatism by religious talk.

    Look, in a nutshell its like this – “Uncle Sam, get your nose out of my bank account, my workplace, my doctor’s office, my kid’s classroom, my grocery store, my garage, my kitchen, my gun cabinet, my bathroom, and everywhere else you have been sticking it…..including my BEDROOM! ”
    I put emphasis on bedroom because that is the part that scares many moderates away from the right. Every time a conservative talks the way Mr. Santorum did….ka-ching……the ‘liberal’ bunch gets another vote…..so stop it!

    Talk religion on sunday in church at the pulpit. At the podium talk about equal rights, leveling the playing field and not equality of outcome, the benefits and incredible success of Liberty, small government and less tax….etc etc….
    If the vast majority of Americans identify themselves as conservative and a small minority as liberal, so why arent conservative cantidates cleaning up at the polls at every election? The answer is simple….many are afraid that every election amounts to having to choose where the government is going to stick its nose in the deepest.

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    • advent2
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:36am

      @suthenboy- I am a Christian and completely agree with your post. Jesus stayed out of the political arena of his day. He challenged the religious establishment only.

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  • Bronco II
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:30am

    I love this man he gets it we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD it is no accident it is Biblical if people took the time to read the Bible we are mentioned in there not in a way that people think that it says USA but in ways if you read deeper and with understanding we are there so is Russia,China,Irak,Iran there all there so is Alaska it’s amazing when you rightly divide and dig deep and use other tools to take the words back to the Hebrew meanings.I use the Companion Bible it has the side index and a huge appendix and I use a Stronges Concordance and other books too when I say I study I really study I love it and no it hasn‘t turned me into a Bible thumper it’s for me and my life and I try to live it as an example I‘m not perfect and never will be I live to be pleasing to GOD not man and when asked anything about scripture I answer when I’ve learned and what TRUTH is to me I will never put down another faith or religion to each their own but I won‘t go along to get along and will never apologize for GODS WORD and if someone thinks I’m nuts or whatever on what I believe so be it.I don‘t answer to them I answer to GOD and no one else and that’s all that counts in my book.Christianity is not a religion it’s a LIFE STYLE a MIND SET.

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  • John 3:16
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:24am

    @ Vunks and the other non-believers in GOD! Why must we prove there is a God? Why don’t you prove there is no GOD? If there is no GOD that created real life (ie) humans, mountains, trees, rain,world, why don’t your scientists create any of the things I mentioned, and do it from nothing. You non-believers are very sad indeed.You know your god is yourself and people like Al Gore and his global warming excuse. The winter we are having is of GOD, and HE is telling you people that you have no control of the weather. My GOD just CONFOUNDED your scientific god this winter: Where as, My GOD just proved you are all fools with your “Man is in control of this world theory. There is plenty of proof for my GOD, but you folks prefer lies to truth so you can justify your life, a thankless and hateful existance of being your own little god. You truely are sorry and sick little people.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:55am

      I really like “christians” which take their time to belittle other people and give them names. I think we need a word for them: CITMOs!
      Cristian
      In
      Their
      Minds
      Only

      Fits, or does it?

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  • Stratocaster
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:21am

    This is so true! I wish the GOP would start to pound this in every Americans head! They need to run on this message!

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  • ronmorgen
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:14am

    Non-sequitur, you are apparently a progressive. You buy the lie that capitalism is greed and you think all religions are the same. Yet you have probably not studied to know these things, but have simply repeated the lies your progressive media has produced. You think it is greed to go out and work hard to get what you need? You think Islam can hold a candle to Christianity? You lack discernment my friend. You don’t even know the difference between good and evil. Why don’t you go seek the truth for a few years and then come back for an intelligent discussion.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:53am

      I think i for one can tell good from evil…And your evilness shines through, quite obvisously…

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  • APatriotFirst
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:27am

    People in Egypt has more strength than USA people. They are willing to fight for their freedom from an opressive govt. For how many days now have they protested?
    And we, here in USA can’t find that same strength. So we shall remain under the rule of Obama. A man we all know wants to ruin our homeland. Our representatives do nothing but collect their paychecks and look forward to a pension for life [from us]. It is We the People who must do what is needed.
    Well maybe we can just wait til 2012. If there is anything left by then.

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  • NUTN2SAY
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 6:57am

    I don’t know about America belonging to GOD. But since the installation of an illegal usurper president more than two years ago one thing is for certain. America no longer belongs to WE THE PEOPLE and furthermore apparently nobody in America gives a crap! Just go and ask your government representative what the Founding Fathers meant by NATURAL BORN CITIZEN (which Obama because of his father is not) and they can’t tell you! They will just spew out a bunch of nonsense that is contrary to their sworn oath of being a servant to the U.S. Constitution. This is a matter of Constitutional Law and has nothing at all to do with a stupid birth certificate from Hawaii! The American people have buried their heads in the sand when they should be raising hell like the people in Egypt!

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  • palerider1
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:06am

    Mr. Santorum will speak the truth for America.GOD Bless you sir

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  • docgreen
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:05am

    I was watching charlie rose on pbs. He was talking with some guy from the new york times. Thomas Friedman! While blogging, I heard Thomas say about six times “from the top down, to the bottom up”! They were talking about Egypt. It sent shivers up my spine! Then I started to think about Obama, progressives, liberals, and unions tied into this mess in Egypt!

    Then I started to think about Obama going to Egypt, and asking the muslim brotherhood to come to his speech, and hear what he had to say! More Shivers! I have a feeling he knew this was coming, and his people played a part in this whole uprising!…..

    Obama’s Evil; and he’s controlling the Muslim World, I don’t know how, but theirs more to this Uprising than what were seeing! I think he’s tied into the muslim brotherhood! I‘ve stated he’s supposed to head the New World Order, per Henry Kissinger, and some of the Gloabl Elitist groups, and I believe he’s Bankrupting America for the New World Order to be installed!

    This ties into Liberals, progressives, Unions, and Islam, with the Mahdi, 12th Imam, and the Supreme Calaphate! Their all tied together to create a New World Order! Mark my words on this! Doesn’t it seam strange to hear those words? What are the chances they would be talking about Egypt, and Egypt falling?

    In order for the Bible to be true, the Antichrist has to have a Religion, One World Govt, and an Economic system that rules the world! So put all three together and Bingo, Barack Obama controlling the Muslims by Religion “Mahdi, Caliphate, 12th Imam,” because he is one, and they’ll listen to him! Economic System Oil controls the wealth! Last the Govt.

    Its all about Satan, the Antichrist, the Beast and last the False Prophet, mahammad! It may sound far fetched, but mark my words! Its here!

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:16am

      Your post just made me rise my right eyebrow so quickly it achieved escape velocity and is currently approaching Jupiter.

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  • burnteye86
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:43am

    FYI- Democracy without Godly values is nothing more than “majority rules”, which would describe a Caliphate also.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:22am

      And Christianity is just like Islam, because both are religions!

      And our laws are just like Sharia, because both are systems of rules!

      And democracy is just like a caliphate because both are types of government!

      And English is just like Arabic because both are languages!

      And…

      You’re simplifying it a little too much methinks.

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  • stupid is stupid said
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:40am

    God and his son jesus along with the holy spirit is the omly answer for for america …plus you cant leave God out of any thing because all thing are from him…..

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    • Vunks
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:36am

      Prove God exists.

      Should be a simple task.

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    • tompaineknowsthescore
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:26am

      did god give american to the native americans??? or did God create them just to be decimated on the arrivial of those who believed in Him?

      Vunks i think your assigning rationality to an inherently irrational belief, they cant prove god exists they have a book and thats about it

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:41am

      Vunks, you cannot prove a fundamental premise.

      Prove the universe is real and not a dream. Should be simple enough…Not.

      Prove that yesterday actually happened and is not a false memory, like a dream.

      Prove the existence of black holes or dark matter. That can’t be done, because by definition they can’t be seen but to the scientists who believe in them their existence is the most plausible explanatiopn of what they DO see.

      One either looks at the universe and concludes that the idea of God explains it better than chance or one doesn’t. All other logical calculations follow from that principle intellectual position.

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    • Mary M. Tebbe
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:21am

      vunks: You want us to prove that God exists…should be a simple task, you said. The evidence that God exists is stacked against you. Why don’t you prove that He does not?! Proving that God does not exist would not be a simple task. You would have to explain to us where both good and evil come from, and unless you are physically blind and physically deaf and cannot see or hear either, that would be a hard task, for even Helen Keller who was both blind and deaf found God. You would have to explain the millions of different species, and that would be a hard task, because they show a divine blueprint, as does the order in the universe. You would have to explain the different races and their different characteristics, and though you probably could not, I can, having written extensively about them. Jesus told us in the New Testament that if we did not believe what He was saying, at least believe the evidence of the miracles he performed. Can you explain miracles, because unless you live in a complete vacuum, there are miracles taking place all around the world on any given day. If you, vunks, want PROOF that God does exist, then ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to all truth, and He will; but I suspect that you do not really want proof, and that you do not want to believe, and I gather that by all of your comments here.
      The Bible tells us that God has a sense of humor, because it tells us that God sits in the heavens and laughs at the FOOL who says in his heart there is no God, because even God knows the evidence that proves that He does indeed exist. But, when you close your eyes for the last time here on earth, you will know instantly that God truly did exist, but for the atheist it will be too late to do anything about it as the iron gates of hell close fast behind you. Just sayin’.

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    • VintageAmerican
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:13pm

      reply to :Vunks, Prove God exists.

      No need for people to prove him, he will prove to you himself. Be patient and be ready, he always reveals himself.

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  • burnteye86
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:39am

    Santorum – Bachman, Now that’s the ticket

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:43am

      I posted the same yesterday, but after seeing Kistri Noem’s speech I thought she might be a good VP choice as well.

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:37am

    VUNKS, you are right to a certain degree, but you have to admit that if everyone followed the laws of God our world would be at peace. What would be so bad about regaining morality, respect, and honor ? Yes, there are some people that don’t walk the walk in every way. I guess that I am guilty of that myself at times. (more than I like to admit) But I try. The basic princibles of Christianity cause no harm, only good. I believe that good will prevail over evil, is that so wrong? An individual has the right to choose either way. Having a relationship with God is personal between yourself and God and should not be forced on anyone. It has to come from the heart, otherwise it has no meaning. I can respect your choice and would like to think that you would respect mine and others who have chosen to be a Christian. Actually it is very hard to be a Christian at times. Especially when I pray for my enemies. For me it is comforting to know that God is with me. Please don’t be turned off by those of us who do believe or judge us as fanatics, it is something you can’t understand unless you feel it in your heart. And if we say we will pray for you, don’t take insult from it. It only means that we care.

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    • Vunks
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:31am

      Utopea’s are a waist of time to think about, they all end badly. Europe used to be ruled by the church look how well that turned out.

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    • Vunks
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:43am

      I have no problems with you believing their is an invisible man in the sky as long as you keep it in your life.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:20am

      but you have to admit that if everyone followed the laws of God our world would be at peace.

      I, personally, agree with your statement. The problem from the standpoint of a society is, which God’s laws are we going to follow. Shall we follow the God of Christianity? That is a relatively simple matter when society is religiously homogeneous. In America, however, that is far from the case.

      I think it a much more tenable course to keep God specifics out of the political discourse. That is where I see one of the benefits of a strict adherence to our Constitution. We are all free to believe in our own God, or no God. But when it comes to governance we are a secular nation of laws.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:48am

      If everyone and all of us followed *any* religious beliefs together there would be peace on earth. Thats not bpund to one religion….

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    • cykonas
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:50am

      @Foreignwatcher
      I’m not sure I agree with “any” religion. I would agree with “most” religions.

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:26am

    “I am not suggesting that we shouldn’t side with the protestors.” Well of course not, that would be supporting a dictatorship against people who want democracy. He’s just suggesting that it’s wrong for Obama to do it because it’s Obama doing it and you have to say that everything Obama does is wrong, even if it’s the morally right thing to do, even if it might be what he would do, even if it might be what’s in the long term best interest of the country – we don’t know yet, nobody does, but it might be, and supporting the regime might turn out to be damaging to the country in the long run. What a robot, what a tool. I’ll bet he wouldn’t be so glib if he were the one who had to make the riskiest, most important foreign policy decision we’ve faced in years. He’s not even in office or running for office and he’s still too cowardly even to state an actual opinion on what the President should do.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:46am

      Well said.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 2:13am

      He’s just suggesting that it’s wrong for Obama to do it because it’s Obama doing it and you have to say that everything Obama does is wrong, even if it’s the morally right thing to do, even if it might be what he would do, even if it might be what’s in the long term best interest of the country – we don’t know yet, nobody does, but it might be, and supporting the regime might turn out to be damaging to the country in the long run. What a robot,
      ******
      He wasn’t saying this because he is against everything Obame does, but, just as he said, WE DON’T KNOW YET!!! He, and we, don’t have access to the daily National security briefings that POTUS and his advisors do, nor to classified information coming out of Egypt, but since they do; they should have had a lot more information, to make informed policy and not changed it several times a day depending on who was speaking for the White House. (I love the way that’s put, as if the building is actually the elected one to govern and whoever was on the ballot is just one voice speaking for it!) When Mr Clapper gave his statement based on a news article and not on intelligence it spoke volumes of why most who might run in 2012 will be able to use this event in Egypt as an issue.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 3:01am

      Mil Mom
      If he had criticized Obama for being indecisive in a time of crisis, I would have agreed with him, but he didn’t. He criticized the stand the President finally took when it was obvious that the revolution would succeed and it was the only stand to take. If he had said I disagree with what the President is doing, he should support our ally Mr. Mubarak, I would have disagreed but respected him. But what he said – I won’t say that what the President is doing is wrong, but I’ll criticize him for it, is unfair, illogical, cowardly, and he is a weasel.

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  • CanadianForGod
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:26am

    God doesn’t shove anything down anyones throat. America was blessed by God though because people used to worship and give thanks to Him, and then they forgot. He didn’t move people did.

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  • Vunks
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:50am

    No America is about the individual. Leave your God at home I don’t want him shoved down my throat.

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    • checkit
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:19am

      Is that what you said about obamacare?

      And if you don’t like God then turn the channel or remove the headset.

      And you might want to get rid of all that money that states, In God We Trust.

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    • 23
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:08am

      @Vunks
      amazing that you cherish the freedom to express – and what do you express – hatred at the very entity that gives you the freedom to express yourself.

      What God gives cannot be taken. What government gives can be taken.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:14am

      “What God gives cannot be taken. What government gives can be taken.”

      God isn’t really showing any fervor to give freedom of any kind to anyone. Saying God is what gave America freedom is diminishing the works of all the people who actually fought and won it for America.

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    • Vunks
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:30am

      checkit, I am a libertarian, so that should tell you all there is to know about Obamacare.

      It is Neo-cons like you that believe that anyone who does not believe in God is somehow a second class citizen.

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    • Vunks
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:35am

      Non-sequitur, No God wanted those people to die because he is all about love. Use the Christians insane logic and take it too its conclusion and you will see just how horrible their “GOD” really is.

      I hope for the day we shed these collectivist notions such as God and religion and finally move into an era of Objectivism.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:45am

      Hey, 23, tell all those slaves in history and today your great theory. They surly want to know that their freedom cant be taken…

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:03am

      23…………..Vunks’ comment had no hatred in it at all. You are lying and you broke a commandment. Just for the record.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:13am

      spot on, Vunks!

      The very same people who rail against the dangers of liberal “collectivism” are all too will to partake in christian collectivism.

      America belongs to “We the People” regardless of what each Individual, who makes up the collective term “We’ in the preamble, views are on deities and metaphysics.

      I want the Christian Brotherhood out of my government just as I don‘t want the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt’s government.

      Theocracy is the oldest form of human tyranny. I expect to see, over the next two years, the theocratic rats scurrying out of the sewers trying to spread their plague on the free. They must be resisted.

      cheers

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:30am

      What you don’t seem to get is that without an acknowledgement of God there is nothing that stands between you and the power of the State. Do you think your individualism will stand up to the concentrated power of Government? Pure individualism by its very definition lacks the ability to organize sufficiently. Just like in Egypt where the majority of people are not part of the Muslim Brotherhood but are not organized. Who will speak for these disorganized masses yearning for freedom? Why the only force that IS organized. That is who. The Muslim Brotherhood.

      The same is true here if we drive God out of our political thinking. The State becomes our religion, speaking for the collective. And who can speak against it, since it expresses the will of the people? The Constitution? Interpreted by whom? the State will tell you what it means. What power can you puny individuals claim? Only a claim to rights from God can stand up to the totalitarian impulse of naked democracy. It is the reality that God defines our existence, not the State, which mandates the limiting of government’s power.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:55am

      @Isle (long time no see. its good to see ya, how’ve you been?)

      I disagree. Not worshipping gods does not mean one will end up worshipping the state. I sure as hell don’t worship elected officials. There is ample lines of resistance between the individual and the state already built into our Constitution. We are the state. If we don’t like what it is doing, we run for office, take it over and correct it. There are also the courts, public demostrations, etc.

      Using religion as a starting point for resistance to state tyranny is, essentially, fighting fire with fire. Pitting tyranny against tyranny. In other words, not a good idea.

      But if that is they way you choose to confront the age-old and endless confrontation of State v. Individual then that’s your call. But it is a flawed approach in my opinion.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:19am

      butcher, nothing happens instantly. Not are the consequences I speak of universal to all individuals. You may not worship the state, but the State certainly does nad mnany sectors of our society ackowledge that worship by recognizing the state’s power to rule everything, for our own good of course.

      God is not a worldly ruler. He will not directly overthrow tyrants nor direct the affairs of free men. He leaves the affairs of men up to men and influences them to the extent they are willing to be influenced. And through them he indirectly influences the world.

      But belief in God is a powerful philosophical principle that directs how a society, and the state which governs it, is formed. A society that recognizes no authority above it will produce a state that recognizes no authority above it. A token respect for the a constitution or the Rule of Law will only mask the inherent belief that might makes right and all power flows from the end of a gun, guns ruled by the state.

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    • vaughan
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:40am

      America is for the individual, for freedom of religion…to believe or not to believe. The fact that you do not believe in God is not as important as your acceptance of individuals who do believe in God. I am not your enemy just because I believe… am I? You’re not my enemy because you do not believe. “Your rights stop and the end of my nose” is not just an idle statement but a fact of life under our Constitution. I wish you no ill will and please don’t degrade my belief system.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:07pm

      Do you have a right to be a socialist? Of course you do. But will socialism preserve your freedom? No.So likewsie, you have a right to be an atheist. But atheism will not preserve that right. The state which is created to protect your right to believe as you choose must be organized on certain principles. Socialist principles will distort the nature of the state so that it will no longer protect your freedom.

      Some protest than insisting of ackowledging God as the author of our liberty is tantamount to a theocracy. But this has it completely backwards. A theocracy is a government ruling with the authority of God. We are saying that no government has that right or power. But an atheistic society will empower a secular theocracy where the state becomes the god, the supreme power beyond which there is no appeal. Nothing can speak against the state. Na d when it speaks it speaks with the force of God.

      Look at Obama and his worshippers. He is their messiah and the state he governs is their god and all who oppose him are heretics and evil.

      Look at overtly atheistic communist governments. No one has any rights if the state decides otherwise. The tyranny and brutality under such goverments is so extreme it surpasses any other tyrannical state where God is at least tacitly acknowledged. As eveil as Iran or Saudi Arabia are, they can‘t hold a candle to Stalin’s USSR or Pol Pot’s Cambodia. When there is no God there is no restraint on evil.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:00pm

      Isles,

      Religion doesn’t preserve freedom either. It is the very definition of the Master/Slave relationship. It IS an unquestionable tyranny as well.

      A secular State with a populace who can worship or not worship as they please is not a recipe for Stalinism or the killing fields of Cambodia. Its Jeffersonian. If you think that is what I and other non-believers and humanists want then we are grossly misunderstood.

      Mr. Santorum’s comment is theocratic and wrong-headed. It is well known he is considering a run for the Presidency. Do you really want a president who says your country doesn’t belong to you? A man who evokes the original Dictator (god) as the true “owner” and “giver” of your rights, thoughts and ideas?

      Obviously, he’s free to express that foolish idea just as we have the right to justly disagree.

      I don’t belong to anyone! and I won’t be told that my country belongs to a genocidal, jealous ficticious character from bronze-age literature.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:33pm

      Butcher,
      You’re ignoring the question of what keeps that secular government limited in its power the way you want it. The natural tendency of man is to rule over others. Freedom as it was enshrined in our Constitution is an historical rarity. What is it that restrains the state and keeps it from becoming a tyranny? You speak of theocracy as if rulers believing in God equated to a theocracy. It doesn’t. A theocracy is where the rulers depend not only on the people‘s belief in God but upon their believing that the state is God’s only instrument. Thus to oppose the state is to oppose God. There is little effective difference between that and an atheistic totalitarian state. if you cannot distinguish between the state and God then the state effectively becomes God.

      What santorum was saying is precisely the opposite. His statement “America belongs to God” is not meant to say that it doesn’t belong to us as citizens. He means by this that America and her freeedoms belong to god and not to the state. Obama and the progressives think the freedoms we have are creations of the state and therefore subject to the will of the state. What the state giveth the state can take away. Santorum is saying that there is a God whom no ruler can control, who has given us freedoms that no state can rightfully take away. If the state tries to take these freedoms away it is the belief in God as their creator that can give us an organizing philosophy to resist the state.

      I understand how tempting it is to suppose that our libertarian belief in freedom is natural and would spring up naturally from people without a belief in God. But that simply isn’t historically true. Individualism is as rare historically as our modern libertarian freedom. Man is naturally social and also religious. The concept of a sovereign individual did not come into existence until it was birthed through Western Civlization, and that through the influence of Christianity which proclaimed that God, who is personal, created as as persons and so as individuals with worth and dignity in our own rights.

      The Biblical belief in a God who created us and takes and interest in our lives and who holds individually us accountable for our actions, this belief gave birth to the modern concept of the individual and so of individual freedom, expressed in it most perfect form yet under our American Constitution. Take God out of the picture and the power of individualism will soon naturally fade and collectivism will return. this is what we have seen in Western society for the last 120 years as western society has become less and less religious.

      The reasons for religious decline is another question but the consequences of it are observable everywhere.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:54pm

      Isles,

      A secular government is not an atheistic totalitarian state. Please, don’t put words in my mouth.

      What Santorum said was wrong. Our country belongs to us. No proxy intermediary is needed to muddle this basic concept. But if you choose to see it that way, that’s your right.

      True, mankind is naturally social and religious (i prefer the term “superstitious”.) I agree. And the rarity of our country’s founding is just that: rare. Blending this supernatural impulse with the affairs of state is treading very close to theocracy. I’m not saying a Christian can not be moral as an individual nor a good leader nor that he/she can’t express their feelings on the matter.

      But we need to remember our rights are only ours for as long as we are willing to defend them. Trusting to a god to protect our innate natural rights will not prevent them from being trammelled..

      I’m not advocating a godless society (well, yes I am, but only by individual choice). I’m advocating a god-neutral government.

      make sense?

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 1:17am

      No America is about the individual. Leave your God at home I don’t want him shoved down my throat.

      ************
      You must be talking to everyone else, because my God wouldn’t fit down your throat, but if you were to develop throat cancer or some such ailment, I believe with all may heart, that He would heal it if You asked Him to, because He is a God of Love and Mercy.
      As for leaving Him at home, He’s too big for that also, and I have His promise that He’ll walk with me wherever my path goes, It‘s little like trying to leave my shadow at home but I’m the shadow and He’s the light which brightens the path of everyone He lets me come in contact with. {Sometimes I slip up and don’t behave like that Good shadow of my God, but, for the most part He keeps me at it, and we (My God and I.) do our part to brighten someone’s day each day. I‘ll pray that He’ll send another such shadow of Himself into your life so that you can see how much richer your life would be if you give up the title and realize that God has always existed and always loved you. If not, it’s like not believing in traffic laws or traffic cops but being out driving, when the siren and rear-view tell you they’re real…it’s kind of late to tell the cops or the courts, “I don’t believe in you.”

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 1:50am

      Wouldn’t you know that an article on God, would be the one to make the Christians almost seem like the trolls. If God is soooo mean and evil that He’d better stay out of Government, then how on Earth did America rise to be the Go To Nation of the world and the one who protected the freedoms of all others; with a motto of “In God we trust”, and an anthem like “God Bless America”, and why, when we were sending missionaries to all corners of the earth, was it not America that the average citizen of all other countries feared. The Roman empire had a democratic form of government, yet in the days before Chist was Crucified, they were hated and feared by most of the nations they ruled. Hitler was democratically elected, but he too was never welcomed by the nations he visited with his armies, even when he left god ( small caps because the God I love told me to love others not exterminate them.) at home and ran his government as he felt was right.
      Man, and woman, in our natural estate are not forces for good. those who truly are so have either had an encounter with a good and loving God, or, someone who has done so, has influenced their life for good. I’m willing to believe that although so many of the posters to this article seem to hate God, everyone of you at some time in your life has run into someone whom you thought was just a very nice or helpful, or sweet person, and if you should find yourself someday in Heaven, would find that this person is there, and willing to tell you that they treated you the way they did to bring honour to their God. (Biblical spelling because it fits the purpose.)

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  • CatB
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:33am

    He nailed Obama … exactly right!

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  • ChiefGeorge
    Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:11am

    Problem is most of American’s have traded God in for their own self interests.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:07am

      CHIEFGEORGE, you are right and that saddens me to say. I think we are going to see some changes in that area as times grow hard. Let us be an example to follow and prove that good will win over evil, that greed will be replaced by charity, that strength will come from God and no other. It often takes tragedy to bring people to him, and I believe that tragedy is inevididable. The times ahead for all Americans will be of great concern, especially for the nonbelievers. No mortal man has the power of our Lord . Without God this Nation will crumble.“ Teach your children well” so that future generations will understand that through God all things are possible. God Bless you and yours my friend.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:59am

      I just pray God hasn’t given up on us!…we might once again have to prove our loyalty to him…it’s gonna be tough…but I think alot of us Americans have it in us…The almighty God has given us Americans quite an opportunity in the history of man…we can beat this crap called libralism…we can beat this crap called Islam…I know we can…or like our forefathers before us…we’ll die tryin…

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:12am

      “that greed will be replaced by charity”

      This would mean that America would have to do a 180°. Capitalism is greed. Greed is what keeps America working.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:56am

      Capitalism breeds giving in most cases…Unless you are an Al Gore or some other ******* that believes the Government should ake your money and give it out.

      If we cut off welfare and allowed the Churches to take their place and feed the needy we would be better off becuse it would be true charity and not charity forced by the end of a gun…

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 8:00am

      Santorum is dead wrong if he thinks religious proclamations will help conservatives attain office in the United States. The very act instantly excludes millions of good Americans that don’t share his belief. Politicians that try to surf into office on the wave of religion deserve to be viewed with all they skepticism and mistrust they garner. Save it for Sunday’s sermon Santorum.

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:53am

      Whose god. I’m an atheist!

      http://godisimaginary.com/

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    • jzs
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:42am

      “What does the president of the United States do? He sides with the protesters,” Santorum said. “I am not suggesting that we shouldn’t side with the protestors [?] but what message are we sending to countries around the world who are friends of ours – when things get tough we walk away.”

      So does Santorum side with “the protesters” or not. He seems to want it both way.

      Note to Santorum: “the protestors” are the people of Egypt. You know, as in “We the People”.

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    • ldpeters
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:20pm

      You are absolutely right.

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    • LisaC49
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:49pm

      You are right…that most Americans have sold out on our beliefs in God for our own self-interests. At this point, I’ve occasionally considered that if I lost every possession I own (because it nearly happened to me before), that my strong faith in God is what would bring me through it, time after time. We need to refocus on what is really important and know that regardless of what happens to this country, there is a way to survive it.

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    • righttobeararms
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:38pm

      You are correct!! Everyone has the “what is best for ME” attitude. We have been blessed by God, we have had it so good for so long we don’t need God anymore. I quote President Reagan: “When we are no longer one nation under God, we will be one nation gone under!”

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    • avideditor
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:33pm

      Ya but i think Obama is a Pro Jihadi http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/is-obama-being-pro-jihadi-in-the-state-of-the-union-2011/ Or do you think it is deeper then that?

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    • seejanemom
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:37pm

      I expect God is tired of being called down on both sides of many arguments.

      ***Is it just me, or do you click to drudgereport first thing in the morning these days and just want to SCREAM AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS, “I HATE THAT FILTH IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!” ?

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    • Loki
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:41pm

      I have to agree with MRButcher.
      This nation belongs to “We The People” not to the christian god, muslim god, any other god or lack there of.
      The politics must be secular so that no one group can violate the freedoms of others. Look to the “muslim democracies” in the middle east that will violate fellow muslims because the state is suni and a group of people are shiite. Would we have a state based on catholic teachings, baptist, methodist? and then allow those in charge to take the rights of the people away because they dont share the same flavor of faiths.
      Let the state be secular, let the those that are in office live with the teachings of their faith, and keep the republic free, and keep our freedoms in our hands.
      We need to learn from Rome, both ancient Rome, and The Holy Roman Empire.. we need to be sure we do not go down either path.. It did not end well either way.

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    • Rice Water
      Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:53pm

      Huh? What? Oh, sorry…I was too busy having man-on-dog sex.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on February 13, 2011 at 12:56am

      Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:12am
      “that greed will be replaced by charity”

      This would mean that America would have to do a 180°. Capitalism is greed. Greed is what keeps America working.

      **********
      Capitalism does not equal greed, if God is in the heart, Capitalism just means that each American has the opportunity to either build his/her own business, or work for another and earn a living for themselves and their families. It’s only when someone chooses the “Winners and losers” other than God that you have the opposite, because when someone earns their own way, God put within each man and woman a heart to care about those who are unable. This is what America has been known for since her founding, and if I read history right, America was founded on this principle which you call “Capitalism” in reality it just means that no one should take from another that which the first has rightfully produced without proper remuneration which is agreeable by both parties. ( I know that there was the blight of slavery at the time of our founding, but their also were many of the original colonists who bought slaves to set them free. {this from the history books which were in use about 50 yrs ago when I was in school in the north and Louisa May Alcott was an American Heroine.}, there was also a way put into the Constitution to amend it, so that past wrongs could be righted.)
      When you have Capitalism with out God, you may have something cold and heartless, like you see in the major banking centers of the world, and in most corrupt governments, but with God we can go forth do good to those around us in a way which government hand-outs and welfare never will be able to because we can look around us and see those who need help and give it without 65 cents of each $ going to financing the bureaus set up to do good.

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