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‘Scandalous & Outrageous’: Catholics Angry Over HHS Sec. Sebelius’ Georgetown Commencement Invite

It’s been a tough year for relations between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration. The two parties have had less-than-favorable interactions, as the former has accused the latter of restricting religious freedom and impeding churches’ ability to follow conscience. The debate has been so intense that it has exploded and slithered into media and entertainment discussion, among other sectors.

At the end of February, the focus seemed to move away from the church-state battle and toward Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke and the firestorm surrounding her spat with radio host Rush Limbaugh. At the center of all of this angst is a controversial mandate that is slated to force (although it has been slightly amended) many religious institutions to provide contraception free-of-charge to all employees.

Catholics React to Sebelius Georgetown Commencement Invite

And, alas, there’s a new associated controversy blooming — and just in time for spring. In an interesting twist of events, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius — one of the key individuals at the center of the mandate’s advancement — has been invited to speak at one of Georgetown University’s commencement events this year.

This move has angered conservative Catholics who hold her responsible for some of the drama surrounding the contraceptive mandate, which will force religious institutions (or their insurance companies) to provide contraception free-of-charge to all employees.

The selection of Sebelius is curious for a variety of reasons. To begin, Fluke’s overwhelming support for the mandate is noteworthy — and Fluke, as noted, is a student at Georgetown Law. While it could certainly be by chance that the Jesuit university has selected one of the key individuals overseeing the contraceptive mandate, the choice, considering the situation, is somewhat curious.

Catholics React to Sebelius Georgetown Commencement Invite

The HHS secretary, who, despite her more liberal views on the issues pertaining to the debate, is Catholic, is slated to address the policy institute’s graduating class on May 18. It is important to note that this ceremony is not for the general graduating class and that Sebelius will not be receiving an honorary degree — two points of contention that led to so much controversy when President Obama was invited to speak at Notre Dame back in 2009.

As Religious News Service notes, conservative Catholics are less than please with the decision to include Sebelius:

“The left-liberals who run the show at Georgetown have found a way to signal to the world that the nation’s oldest Catholic, and most famous Jesuit, university stands with the Obama administration in its war … against the Catholic bishops and others who oppose the HHS mandate as a violation of religious freedom and the rights of conscience,” fumed Robert P. George, a legal scholar at Princeton University and a conservative Catholic with close ties to Republican causes.

The conservative Cardinal Newman Society, which monitors Catholic schools for any actions it deems a danger to the faith, called the Sebelius invitation “scandalous and outrageous.” It set up a website and petition to push Georgetown President John DeGioia to rescind the invitation.

“Georgetown insults all Americans by this honor,” wrote the society’s president, Patrick J. Reilly. “The selection is especially insulting to faithful Catholics and their bishops, who are engaged in the fight for religious liberty and against abortion.” Other conservative Catholics have echoed Reilly and George on online outrage.

Catholics React to Sebelius Georgetown Commencement Invite

Screen shot from GeorgetownScandal.com, an effort by the Cardinal Newman Society

But it doesn’t appear that the university will be backing down. In a press release announcing the invitation, Georgetown praised the Obama administration member’s work in the health care sphere. And nowhere is her controversial work to instill the mandate mentioned in the brief biography that the university published:

Sebelius was sworn in as the 21st secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in 2009. Since taking office, she has led efforts to improve America’s health and enhance the delivery of human services to some of the nation’s most vulnerable populations, including young children, those with disabilities and the elderly. As part of the historic Affordable Care Act, she is implementing reforms she says have ended many of the insurance industry’s most discriminatory practices and will help 34 million uninsured Americans get health coverage…

While it’s possible that the university is taking a stand against the church in the battle over the contraceptive mandate, it may also simply be the case that Sebelius, a former governor (Kansas) and an accomplished federal official, is a viable choice for commencement speaker. Either way, the selection is certainly controversial — specifically among conservative Catholics who are already on edge regarding doctrinal issues and alleged unprecedented government intervention.

(H/T: RNS via Huffington Post)

Comments (84)

  • jujubeebee
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:27am

    Shocking that the universtiy would have her there! I hope she hears boos! I think the people need to revolt against this. Anyone who was raised catholic should respect religious freedom and KS is not religious. She is not a Catholic and this university is not worthy of getting enrollment. HORRIFIC!

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    • spotcoon
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 12:06pm

      Correct !

      54% of Catholics couldn’t get enough obama. So, THEY elected him——-Now he (obama) tells them “Pound Eucharistic Sand and Do It My Way, or Else!”

      Can you finally see the damage you’ve caused this country?

      Thanx, AGAIN !

      Get used to seeing this post—-It’s meant to “inspire”.

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    • starman70
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 12:53pm

      OK Catholics! YOU CAN FIX THE PROBLEM IN NOVEMBER! DON’T IN ANY WAY SHAPE OF FORM VOTE FOR OBAMA OR ANY SENATE OR HOUSE CANDIDATE WHO WILL VOTE FOR ANY PROGRAM FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!

      Get out the vote!!! Help clean out WASHINGTON, D.C.

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    • JRook
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 1:06pm

      Cardinal Newman Society, which monitors Catholic schools for any actions it deems a danger to the faith …. we live in a world where we are constantly bombarded by rants from irrelevant organizations on both sides of the political and social spectrum. No mention of course about the 27 states that already have such a mandate.

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    • Jim in Houston
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 2:23pm

      I hope they tar and feather her and ride her out of town on a rail.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 2:49pm

      Georgetown is a sovereign organization that can think for itself. Good for them to stand up to this whining watch-doggie. I only wish Mitt had enough courage to stand up to the mouse-sized special interests who make him jump when they roar. That would demonstrate his awesome natural leadership.

      But, we need to stay the course with whatever hand we are dealt.

      Go Mitt Allen! Romney/West 2012!

      TEA

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 3:16pm

      She is… a Day Walking… Vampire!

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    • proliance
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 3:18pm

      Among Catholics who attend Mass on a weekly basis (actual Catholics) the percentage of those who voted for McCain is 55% versus 43% for Obama.

      A lot of people claim to be Catholic because that’s how they were raised, but if you disrespect Christ’s teachings, including not attending Mass every week, then you aren’t a Catholic.

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    • Maji
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 7:57pm

      This woman is worse than“al sharpton”,she actualy has power
      to go with her stupidity! That cow is e-vil

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on May 9, 2012 at 2:10am

      THIS IS ONE EVIL WOMAN. Look at her. Watch her. She is EVIL WALKING. Every person he put on his cabinet is the same…arrogant, disconnected, unAmerican, defiant. Like that former Gov. or Az who thinks she has solved the border problem…horrible women. Ugly (because of the way they are)
      (well, and otherwise too) WATCH THIS: This will tell you what is really going on…it is a WAR against CHRISTIANS and these weak, lily-livered broads are playing right into his evil hands:

      Remember all the notices we kept getting
      To watch Fox News on Sunday at 9PM? This is the clip that got
      Pulled due to pressure from the Admin.

      WE HAVE BEEN TOLD TO WATCH FOX 2-3 TIMES ON CERTAIN DATES
      ABOUT “OBAMA”, BUT IT WAS NEVER AIRED. BE SURE ALL YOUR FRIENDS SEE.
      It runs ten (10) minutes so don’t let the breaks fool you. I trust that it will stay on the Internet long enough for you to view.

      Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Hannity from airing this
      Piece.

      This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that
      We are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for several
      Weeks.

      Watch it now before it gets pulled from the
      Internet! Please watch the entire video!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

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  • slr4528
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:25am

    Does this school recieive money from the Catholic church? If so,the Catholic church should terninate it’s relationship with the College.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 11:53am

      the catholic church needs to clean many houses and this is one of them. so many of their churches are out of control it is not a unified church any longer. we are Christians first then involved in politics but this university showed what they take as priority.

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  • tommy4may
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:17am

    cciusa via CNSNews.com
    NOTE before you vote
    Beginning of the Catholic Crusade of Islamic Inquisitions to stop Christian Persecutions in the World.
    Clinton to Muslims: Pay No Attention to GOP
    Obama’s More Deferential to Afghan Muslims Than American Catholics
    Look also how they shackled Zimmerman in court,the racist, however these terrorist Islams are allowed to strip and pray in court.
    These Camp Followers of the Demorats are led by this Sebillius head who should be Islam.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 11:11am

      Sense you not maked. English lesSons you take to must NEED. realITY check nice might be. Liberal Catholics and Muslims (Islam is the religion, Muslims are the followers) are not really connected. If you are seeing conspiracies between the dust bunnies, they have medication for that.

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  • ManassasGrandma
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:04am

    The Jesuits have not been Catholic for sixty years.They need to be honest and stop using the church for cover.

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  • Dury
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:58am

    I expect that she will defend her support of late term murders, opps, I mean abortions. She is such a good fit for a Catholic college. Is there any real Catholics running this place. She as a supposed catholic is a poor example of our faith.

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    • Iamnotanumber
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 3:13pm

      As are MANY, MANY of our Catholic Politicians, they should walk in faith our be excommunicated. Yes that is were we need to go. If you want to live that kind of life, fine go ahead! But do NOT use the church to hide behind, or your constituents as an excuse to work against your faith. If you can’t live the faith in elected office, GET OUT!!!!!!!

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    • angelcat
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 8:50pm

      She SAYS she is a Catholic, but she has excommunicated herself by publicly going against the teachings of the Church and committing scandal. I understand the bishop in her diocese in Kansas told her she was no longer to receive the Eucharist also.

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  • Bro. Chuck
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:51am

    Utterly amazing……

    This is why folks are confused, frustrated, & turning their backs.

    The hypocrisy -

    When you see, hear, and understand the contradictions, can you blame people for running away from things Spiritual?

    This is a war, folks….
    and if you are going to claim “status” -
    Christian, Catholic, Believer, etc…
    you better be prepared to testify,
    To and OF whom you serve……

    The disconnects are insane –

    I will not judge Sebelius…
    That is the Lord’s to perform.

    I’ll say – this is all distraction.
    To confuse & confound people who look in & try to choose a weaving path through this swamp.
    Enough already!

    It is upon us who have relationship with our Father….
    who understand and have been given the Knowledge & Wisdom of the Ruach HaKodesh….
    when we see such things, we are not to be quiet, but we are obligated to speak Truth.

    That this person, with her views and ideologies, is not corrected in her error is the Abomination.
    That any like her who make claim under the Righteousness of YahWeh,
    and are not called out or their blasphemies announced to Humanity….
    That is the Sin of our People.

    You Church of Rome-
    you are afraid to withold that which is Holy (attending mass, sacraments, communion, etc) from these who spit upon our Creator,
    You are clearly commanded to expose their evil and remove them from your ranks.
    You fail to purge these who would allow,
    Nay, these who plant seeds of corruption amongst your flock an

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    • JimL
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 11:41am

      “Peace be You”- forgiveness between brothers and sisters prior to coming to the Feast.

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  • bcope01
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:49am

    Pelosi, Biden, Sebelius all faux Catholics. The Church should excommunicate them. The Catholics are the problem. Oh I forgot the Kennedys. I no longer have any sympathy for the Catholics. They want things both ways.

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    • TAXEVERYONE
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:09am

      This is ironic. In 2008 Catholics turned out in record numbers to provide the winning margin for Obama. Now that he has thrown them under the bus, they are all upset. Why didn’t you people do your homework on this clown before you voted?
      I hope you are now smart enough this time to fix what you caused.

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  • vastlrtonyfan
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:45am

    I have no respect for many of these so-called Catholic Universities. I am a Catholic and I was livid when Notre Dame invited Obama (who is pro-choice) to speak there. Now it is Georgetown doing the same thing. Why doesn’t the Catholic church speak out and ream them a new butt? I can’t remember them getting involved with Notre Dame either. At least 75% of your college professors are proclaimed liberals so in years to come all this brain-washing they are doing to these college students will result in a nation of stupid and uninformed adults. Heaven help us. Oh I am sorry if I offended any liberals out there by using the word heaven.

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  • Leader1776
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:41am

    Oftentimes for many it is easier to espouse liberal agenda than follow the gospels. This type of person is running the Catholic church and attending mass. Time for yet another reformation? Too soon?

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:35am

      Actually, “. . . this type of person” is NOT RUNNING THE CHURCH–but those who do not understand obedience are doing their own thing!

      “. . . I will build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Matthew 16:18 KJV

      This “type” of person is the person who wants to “cherry pick” what and when (s)he believes something and or wants to be a “cafeteria christian”! The don’t want to follow the teaching of the Church, because they don’t agree with them, or they feel CONVICTED by them or they have a misunderstanding of the purpose of the FULL TEACHING!

      Remember, in John 6 which Jesus taught that His body is REAL BREAD and that His blood is REAL DRINK in the bread and the wine, He was to give us (canabalism to Jews), the passages goes on to report, “From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.” (John 6:66 KJV). As the “many” left, Jesus did not run after them to bring them back, nor did He clarify further! Rather he asked his Apostles if they believed and Peter testified that they had to, since “. . . You have the words of Eternal Life.” (v. 68b)

      The Holy Catholic Church and our Lord desires everyone to HAVE THE WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE, but many find the teachings of the Church, “these are ‘. . . hard saying(s); who can hear it?’” to their detriment (v. 60b). It is their detriment and our loss, as we, with Jesus, love them!

      Come back to TRUTH!

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  • ROMANS 10-9
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:40am

    “For I am the LORD your God, who upholds your right hand, Who says to you, ‘Do not fear, I will help you.’

    Isiah 41:13

    Stand Firm CHRISTIANS!

    GOD BLESSED AMERICA,
    and
    GOD CAN TAKE IT AWAY!

    Stand Firm Christian Americans!

    Amen.

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  • hillbillyinny
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:36am

    Please alumni and others, STOP ALL GIFTS TO THIS pseudo-Catholic institution!!!!

    Founded as “Catholic,” many have of these institutions are NO LONGER FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH.

    Pray, but STOP THEIR MONEY!

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  • MiCurmudgeon
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:34am

    Do not let a person who wants everyone in the USA to pay for abortions have any more public attention !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Amazingoly
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:22am

    Hope they cancel her. She will be packing her things soon, anyway, and will return to Kansas after Obama is soundly defeated.

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    • Beak86
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:04am

      Kansas does not want her back!

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    • Iamnotanumber
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 3:18pm

      As a former subject of the Ole Gray Mare, the land of Oz is much better without her!!

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  • PA PATRIOT
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:22am

    Compliments of the rouge Jesuit Society / Academia / Power / Wealth

    All for $62,000 per year

    Time for the Catholic Church to take a stand

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  • HuskerDave
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:16am

    I’ve been saying to fellow Cathoics for years that promotion of these non-Catholic intellectual “elites” though our university systems have been a deal with the devil. Those chickens are coming home to roost.

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:40am

      “intellectual elites” are the problem both within the Church and without. When you think you can control everything with your mind, you loose the ability to see the MYSTERY of God!

      Come to (or back to TRUTH!

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:16am

    People are mistaken in believing that Jesuits consider themselves as Catholics. Jesuits are committed to social justice to the such a degree that they willingly ignore the conflict between Obama and the Catholic Church.

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    • HuskerDave
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:51am

      Jesuits are too-closely tied to mainstream university ideology. Other Catholic sects (Franciscans, Benedictines, etc) are very wary of Jesuits, with good reason.

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:11am

      @ husker:

      And have been for many years!

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  • moussiagilda
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:13am

    There’s no danger of crazy-making poisoning here. There’s a chance of being annoyed, maybe, for a moment. Did you hear about the day I cast out demons at IHOP? The legend…

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  • raderby
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:12am

    maybe they realize she is a satan spawn demon, and they want to cast the demon out with a group exorcism?

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  • moussiagilda
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:10am

    The same thing happened in Washington, DC. Both in St. Elizabeth’s come-to-die hospital, where I guess I learned in 1996 that I am immortal — yes I did die for you, sir — and in Seton House, the ward emptied out about instantaneously. Suddenly everyone is going home tomorrow, and once tomorrow shows up, they’re gone.

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  • mensa141
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:10am

    Tenure will be toast. These corrupted people keep bubbling up from their cesspools due to tenure. Unbelieveable they have the balls to do what they are doing at Georgetown! Obviously Satan thinks he has won the war.

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  • Redd
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:08am

    It was commie in your face at notre dame and now georgetown. What better for the commies than to take over the catholic institutions. Peeps should not donate to georgetown or attend the sebelius rant and start fighting back.

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  • Inlightofthings
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 8:58am

    Well, the dems are doing what they can to give up a good portion of that 65% of the Catholic vote…

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  • kentuckypatriot
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 8:56am

    As a conservative Catholic, I am OUTRAGED by this decision of Georgetown. How dare they say to us Catholics “ in your face ” with morals. Furthermore, the likes of Biden, Pelosi, Sebelius really give Catholics a bad name. More proof to me that evil is at work destroying the church.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:10am

      It’s no surprise! Track the funding for these large colleges and universities! Check the representatives of the districts that these schools are in. Search past and present Bills for them and you will discover the answer. When a congressman has a wing of a school named after it, I would say that it may have been due to a large amount of monetary support!

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 11:20am

      I’m a Liberal Catholic, and I think that Biden, Pelosi, Sibelius and the Jesuits give us a good name. Did you know that Biden was doing the Rosary during the bin Laden raid, and that Admiral Mullen, another Catholic, told him not to stop until they were back safe? Oh, and Mullen didn’t have a problem with Gay people serving. I understand that he used to invite the partners of his Gay staff members to his private parties.

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    • MLee
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 3:25pm

      I agree but am tired of labels such as “conservative Catholic” either you observe and honor the doctrines of the Church and ARE Catholic or you do not and are not!

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  • hi
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 8:55am

    Everyone knows most of the Jesuit colleges are secular now.

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  • Fipper
    Posted on May 8, 2012 at 8:54am

    As a Catholic, I gave up on the Jesuits a long time ago. Catholic doctrine means nothing to them. And, they wonder why Catholics are abandoning the church?

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:02am

      I agree with yuor statement, however, I will not abandon my Church, no way, no how. I had some personal problems and with the intervention of God the Almighty, I’m much happier now.

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    • Locked
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:16am

      @Fipper

      “And, they wonder why Catholics are abandoning the church?”

      Have any facts to back this up? Most studies I’ve seen have shown growth in Catholic populations for the past few years and at least an equilibrium most recently. The reason for the decline in the US Catholic population several years ago was due to the sex abuse scandal. Since then the population seems to have come back and expanded.

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    • Maxim Crux
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 9:29am

      Obama was honored by Notre Dame just weeks after signing a major murderous abortion bill. The Church is not the Church…Christ is the Church. Keep following this institution led by a Pope that meets with dictators…like the one in Belarus and Cuba and see where it gets you in the end.

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    • WhatDoYouKnowJoe
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:20pm

      @Maxim Crux

      No Sir/Madam, You are quite mistaken about this. Jesus transfers His authority to men and then works through them. Don’t believe it? Consider the following. The Jews had a priesthood and the ones that cared about their relationship with God respected them. Moses, was not asked by the people when he brought the ten commandments down from Mt. Sinai, “Where did you get your authority from to give these commandments to us?”. Or, “How do we know these commandments are from God?”. Jesus founded The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church upon St. Peter and it is responsible for the spread of the whole truth of Christianity throughout the world. The office of the priesthood was established at the time of the church. To *know* history is to be Catholic. Some things that we would not have without The Catholic Church are: The Bible, Western Civilization, The Scientific Method, and many many inventions. God is love, and will forgive any sin but frankly Protestantism is living dangerously. God does absolutely and utterly amazing things through His church and many are literally blind to it. I strongly suggest not to dishonor the Pope. It is a sacrilege to do so. This is coming from a Jew who became a Catholic 14 years ago.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on May 9, 2012 at 3:48am

      WHATDOYOUKNOWJOE: yOU said; “God is love, and will forgive any sin but frankly Protestantism is living dangerously……I strongly suggest not to dishonor the Pope. It is a sacrilege to do so”.

      Wow! I don‘t even know where to begin with what you’re sayin. Lets just agree to disagree.

      In the 1500′s William Tyndale sought to translate the Bible into the language of the common people, English. He could not gain approval from the Catholic institution, so he worked as an outlaw on the run in Europe, translating the Bible. He was eventually captured, condemned and executed in 1536. It is because of people like these men, Tyndale and Wycliffe, that we have the scriptures today. If the Catholic religion had its way, we’d still be in ignorance about the Bible and enslaved to the pope.

      We could argue this till Kingdom come…jus trust follow God thru Jesus. Do His commandments and forget about the Cathedrals. I say it in love-peace.

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    • WhatDoYouKnowJoe
      Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:07am

      @GirlNurse

      Jesus says that He is truth. Love by the way is not affirming what is incorrect just because someone claims they are Christian. It is love to fraternally correct other souls to understand the boundaries of this because their salvation is in accepting the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in so far as we can understand. Jesus is also The Word Incarnate. Do you think that He needs the scriptures to communicate to men? Have Bibles just drop down from heaven? Is all of Christian belief founded upon The Bible(Maritin Luther started that – but who is he to say this?). Do The writings of actual Saints count for anything? Can a book ever be a *sole* source of authority? Can the Constitution of the United States stand alone without an authoritative body to interpret it? And what authoritative body is there to resolve disputes between opposing interpretations of the laws written within it? Which one of the 33,000+ bible believing denominational / non-denominational interpretations should we accept? Please give more credit to your Lord and Savior. He left us with rich traditions, that are extremely efficacious for souls. What happened to obedience of spiritual authority? Remember the angels that were cast out from heaven did not want to be the servants of man. There is no heresy that has not been addressed by The Catholics. See the story of Tyndale and English translations of scripture: http://archive.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0212fea3.asp.

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