Scarborough Agrees With Beck: If ‘Big Government’ Newt is Nominee, I‘d Take ’Long Look’ at Paul
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Glenn Beck grabbed people’s attention recently when he said that if Newt Gingrich wins the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, he would consider voting for Ron Paul. Some laughed. Some got angry. But on his radio show on Tuesday, Beck reiterated that Gingrich is such a “progressive” that he makes Ron Paul look enticing (despite Paul’s “dangerous” foreign policy stance). And guess who agrees: MSNBC host and former GOP Congressman Joe Scarborough.
On his TV show Tuesday morning, Scarborough said that despite his differences with Beck in the past, he thinks Beck is right on this.
“Glenn Beck said something that I guarantee you a lot of small-government conservatives, like me, have thought,” he explained. “And that is, if I have to choose between Barack Obama and Newt Gingrich, a guy that George Will said would have been a marvelous Marxist and who is the opposite of being a small-government conservative, if Ron Paul’s running as a third-party candidate, I’m going to give him a long look.”
“Because I can’t vote for the two guys who worship at the altar of big government in their own separate ways,” he added.
Here’s the video via Newsbusters:
Newsbusters also has the transcript:
I want to bring up Glenn Beck really quickly. I bash Glenn Beck when he says really inflammatory statements. But Glenn Beck last week had Newt on. And he asked Newt the type of questions that conservatives need answers to.
Then yesterday, Glenn Beck said something that I guarantee you a lot of small-government conservatives, like me, have thought. And that is, if I have to choose between Barack Obama and Newt Gingrich, a guy that George Will said would have been a marvelous Marxist and who is the opposite of being a small-government conservative, if Ron Paul’s running as a third-party candidate, I’m going to give him a long look. Because I can’t vote for the two guys who worship at the altar of big government in their own separate ways. And that’s the problem with a Newt Gingrich candidacy, Andy: he’s not a small-government conservative.
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mrmikejohnson
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:12pmI’d be worried if I agreed with Scarborough. Beck just hasn’t been the same since he got fired from Fox.
Report Post »Delta_River_Folk
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:16pmNewt is not the solution he is the problem for he is a Greedy Progressive
Newt appeared in a PSA with Nancy Pelosi, paid for by the Alliance for Climate Protection, which was founded by Al Gore. In that PSA, he said things like: “We do agree, our country must take action to address climate change,“ and ”if enough of us demand action from our leaders, we can spark the innovation we need.”
Newt was a big supporter of mandated health insurance long before Obamacare was passed.
Newt has accepted hefty consulting fees from mortgage giant Freddie Mac. Is he hypocritical? Freddie Mac is a cancer on society. Newt received $30,000-a-month from Freddie Mac until September 2008 when the U.S. Treasury took control of the government-sponsored entity.
House Ethics Committee special counsel recommended that Newt be reprimanded by the full House and pay a $300,000 fine for violating House rules in 1997. The first time in the House’s 208-year history it has disciplined a speaker for ethical wrongdoing. He broke rules by failing to ensure that financing for two projects would not violate federal tax law and by giving the House ethics committee false information.
You ran from Herman Cain for this? Cain is more conservative than Newt can dream about. Matter of fact, I would rather see Romney the RINO than Newt the Amphibian.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:17pmOf course Joe said that .. .to get OBAMA REELECTED!
Glenn better be careful what he wishes for!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:20pmAgreed, CATB!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:29pmI think you miss the point here. If a liberal like Scarborough thinks Newt is liberal, then Beck must be right about Newt being liberal. Even a liberal nut like Scarborough thinks Newt is liberal. So Beck’s estimation of Newt sounds right to me.
Report Post »I don’t see, and have never seen, Beck endorsing Paul. What Beck said in regards to Paul is to show how liberal Newt is. It’s an indictment on Newt. Not an endorsement for Paul.
Of coarse Palistinians will take it as an endorsement. They will take anything they can get, even if it’s false.
_waTson_
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:35pmOnce again, I‘d like to ask what Glenn’s obsession with Newt is?
How about this idea AGAIN .. take your money and your resources Mr. Beck and compile information from each candidate of where they stand on issues. I REALLY DON“T WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU PREFER AND WHO YOU DON”T GLENN BECK .. What I would like to know is where each candidate stands, in writing, on key issues such as, The Constitution Agenda 21, China, Iran, Unions, Obamacare. What is there plan of attack to fix this Country. How will they bring manufacturing back to this Country? And on.
The more you warn us about Newt Gingrich, frankly, the more I like him.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:37pmI would rather have an honest communist in the White House, Obama, than a lying, fake Republican, Gingrich. If the results are going to be the same, go with the real deal. The stupidity of people voting for Gingrich because they fear Obama, is what the media set out to do. The media counts on these dopes.
Report Post »jacquecustard
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:38pmMaybe GB really wants another 4 years from Zero ? If there is a 3rd party it will sure guarantee Obama another 4 years and misery for most of us……. Thanks Glen.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:41pm_waTson_, my good man, you do not need Beck to find the answers that you seek. Stop asking people to spoon feed you. Get out and do the work yourself. When you do, you will find that Gingrich is a fraud.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:51pmGlenn Beck’s point is valid. There is little difference between the results of an Obama administration and the results of a Gingrich administration. Commie vs. commie-lite.
Report Post »_waTson_
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:58pm@SMACKDOWN33
I have been doing my homework on the candidates for almost 2 years. I am involved. I am passionate and I care about where our Country is at and where we need to get to.
I know where I stand on each Candidate. I know who I’m voting for.
My point is about Glenn Beck using his resourses to sway voters to the extent of saying he’d vote for Ron Paul, someone he has never even wanted on his show. lol. That is hypocritical to say the least. Mostly, it’s just fuel for the Liberals because you know what they think about Glenn.
The majority of Voters do not research Candidates. They do not know where they stand on the issues, pressing or not. Most have never heard of Agenda 21 and on. Most people that I know ask someone else who they should vote for.
So please save you ridiculous diatribe for someone that might find you amusing.
Again, my point (so you might get it too) is that with the resouces at his fingertips, Glenn Beck could easily better help those without he time and passion to learn about candidates to see who best represents their ideas and beliefs.
Ms. <~~~ Watson !!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:59pmWhat about big government forced purchase Romneycare insurance?
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:06pmWhy is it so hard to understand that Paul brings people from all spectrums of the political field. Freedom and Liberty is appealing to almost everyone. Democrat, Republican, Independents, Liberal, Conservative, Left, Right. White, Black, Red,……you get the idea. He has a lifetime record of defending these American Values. Like him or hate him you know were he stands on all the issues. He has the same answers no matter who is speaking in front of. I find it refreshing.
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:06pmI worry about the third party candidate spliting the vote.
Report Post »i don’t believe Paul would ever win an election against Obama..esp as a 3rd party candidate..
Clive
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:08pmim with smackdown.
Report Post »newt and romney, are both the same thing as obama. they just hide it better. i don’t care if they get elected, it will just be more of the same. ron paul will at least be different. he might be crazy, but when i hear him talk, i find myself agreeing with most of what he says. plus, he doesn’t strike me as phoney, like newt and mitt.
Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:13pmOn the issues is a very honest track records of all the candidates:
Here‘s Romney’s
http://www.issues2000.org/Mitt_Romney.htm
You can search for all candidates and the info is easy to digest “at a glance.”
Report Post »caleejr
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:16pmFired from Fox? where’s the truth in that one? LOL
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:22pmThe title says “Glenn Beck” so the trolls rush out in force!
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:28pmHe was not fired you idiot. He left on his own accord. Nothing but a two-bit liar.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:31pmsmackdown33 An HONEST communist, now that is an oxymoron. Communist can’t be honest sweetheart.
Bless your little heart!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:03pmRon Paul-The only Non-Progressive Candidate running
Social Issues:
-States rights
-Pro Life
-Freedom to Religion
-Belief in the individual
Fiscal Issues
-Reign in the Federal Reserve
-Sound money
-Cuts REAL spending
-Reduces 1 Trillion of spending in 1 year
-Lower taxes
-Less regulations
-Entitlement cuts
-Department closings
Foreign Policy
-Non-Intervention
-Removes the US from UN
-Removes UN from US
-Cuts foreign Aid (Worldly redistribution of Wealth)
-Ends foreign Wars
-Ends policing the World
-Secure borders
-Strong National Defense
Look at each “Republican” in the race and you will see all are progressive, besides Ron Paul, in one of these 3 categories if not multiple or all categories.
If your candidate is slightly progressive they will become full blown progressive once in power.
It is quite clear there is only one non progressive candidate, Ron Paul. Replacing Obama with another progressive is the actual definition of insanity and will do nothing to save our country.
Report Post »SafeguardOurLiberty
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:03pmAgree, he has changed and I am considering not listening to his radio show anymore. He also said that Bachman and Santorum would be the ones he would vote for. And those are the two worse of all of them. Glenn use to tote the constitution and how important it is, but if he supports the two candidates that would exclude gays from the military, he doesn’t support the constitution. Beck just lost me.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:17pmWHO would agree with SCARBOROUGH? Beck wants BACHMANN. Bachmann is a lying phony. I know NEWT has a past. I also know he’s a work in progress like we all are. I believe HE can keep us safe. I don’t believe that about ROMNEY, I know PAUL is nuts and won’t defend us; Santorum would have to show me a lot of savvy and guts ..so it’s NEWT. Don’t even mention that twit Huntsman (smug little Lord Fauntleroy) IF we can’t have CAIN, I’m going for NEWT and tough if he liked FDR… HE loves AMERICA which is more than I can say for the current Occupant in the WH…and as far as Scarborough agreeing with me? That should be the first clue, GLENN. YOU are stuck on Bachmann because she can sell ice to Eskimos…show me ONE THING that she has accomplished…just one…. You can’t. IF your show is going to be ANTI-NEWT for 4 mos. then I’ll skip all but LIBERTY TREEHOUSE. I’m paid up for the year.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:20pmPS: RON PAUL is OLD
RON PAUL is ANTI ISRAEL
RON PAUL is NUTS
RON PAUL is not his son, whom I would vote for
RON PAUL’S people are fanatics
RON PAUL attracts hysterical 20 year olds.
RON PAUL couldn’t carry even 1 state.
YOU WANT OBAMA? VOTE PAUL.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:22pmRon Paul to win Iowa — polls now predict it!
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/iowa/
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:30pmVechorik
Report Post »Looks like Romney has hit his ceiling and Paul is surging
PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:33pmPAUL knows zippity do dah about the BIBLE obviously or he would KNOW that ISLAM is a CULT…they do NOT follow the GOD of ABRAHAM. PAUL just can’t get it that THEY WANT TO KILL ALL OF US. HE would play right into their hands. His’ live and let live ” is just great, in fairy tales…but if he was a student of the BIBLE, he would know that SATAN is out there every hour of every day trying to ruin anything decent, like our CONSTITUTION….yet Paul through his ignornance believes that all people want the same things…just because HE does. PAUL would be worse than OBAMA at ruining our rights. THINKABOUT IT.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:34pm@Patty Henry
“PS: RON PAUL is OLD”
So? Do you hate old people? Wow!
“RON PAUL is ANTI ISRAEL”
You are lying. You think Israel wants liars standing with her? Is that how you represent God?
“RON PAUL is NUTS”
Good try. We see who the nut is, you!
“RON PAUL is not his son, whom I would vote for”
Rand and Ron don’t differ on much at all. How embarrassing for you.
“RON PAUL’S people are fanatics”
Aren’t all candidate supporters “fanatics”? Only “fanatics” come post a made up comment against a candidate like you.
“RON PAUL attracts hysterical 20 year olds.”
So? An “old” man getting the youth support and leading the young generations for the Comstitution is not a bad thing.
“RON PAUL couldn’t carry even 1 state.”
Now you are a fortune teller. Isn’t that against God as well? He is leading Iowa now and Iowa poll shows Ron is the only to beat Obama.
“YOU WANT OBAMA? VOTE PAUL.”
Blah blah. Ron Paul is the only one to beat Obama as Ron gets support from all spectrums, not just less then half of the voting electorate.
Patty Henry is a hater and a liar which is opposite of what Godly people should be!
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:35pmObama was a work in progress. Need I say any more? Gingrich is a fraud, no different than the Wizard in Oz.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:39pmRational, listen to these clips from Glenn. He say’s in his own words that Paul is the closest thing we have to George Washington. To me that is a type of endorsement since he has said many times, “Where is our George Washington?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcAYJqG0NEI
Report Post »charleyrocks
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:46pmAll I know is he was heartless when he gave divorce papers to his wife in the hospital with cancer, he does not have the respect from me to be a president period!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:51pm@Patty Henry
“PAUL knows zippity do dah about the BIBLE obviously or he would KNOW that ISLAM is a CULT”
You call everyone who doesn’t believe as you a cult. Even if Islam is a cult, what should a President do about it? Hunt them down like Mormons and kill them? Wow!
“PAUL just can’t get it that THEY WANT TO KILL ALL OF US.”
I suppose you support removing our troops from the middle east and closing down all bases in Muslim lands right? Stop trade with Muslim nations as well right, since they all want to kill us.
“HE would play right into their hands. His’ live and let live ” is just great, in fairy tales”
Now you say the Bible is a fairy tell? Did Jesus say he needs you to kill in His name? NOPE. Jesus said do unto others as you would do unto yourself.
“but if he was a student of the BIBLE, he would know that SATAN is out there every hour of every day trying to ruin anything decent, like our CONSTITUTION”
Your views are not aligned with the Constitution so are you of Satan and who you speak about? Hahahaha!!!
Patty Henry you are embarrassing yourself, again.
Report Post »SpinMD
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:55pmYeah, Beck is different. Amazing what not having a corporate leash will do.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:02pmPatty, Everything Okie said and my two cents: Paul is not anti-Isreal period. He is pro Isreal for wanting them to be a sovereign state. Instead of telling Isreal what we think they should or should not do, Paul say’s let isreal make their own decisions on protecting their Nation and stand behind their decision. How is that anti-Isreal?? We do not need to police the world with troops and trillions of dollars that is causing our Nation to fall economically when we have subs all over the oceans that could strike anywhere within a half hour and unmanned drones that travel 8X the speed of sound and can strike anywhere in the world within one hour. Do not think Paul is weak on Natl defense, he will just do things by the Constitution and get Congress involved to declare war. That is the only way to ensure that the people, who are supposed to be in charge, approve of the war. If there is no time to get Congess’ approval in time, do not think he will not react. He will and then he will get Congress’ approval to continue. The Constitution!!! Paul is the only one who will do things according to the Constitution. Are you against our Constitution?? If you are, you are not a true American.
Report Post »Sorry for the run on sentances.
louise
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:06pmOkie,
I think that not only Glenn, but more and more people are going to finally have a revelation and see that Ron Paul is the only choice to restore our Republic and liberty. All the other candidates are republican progressives.
Report Post »If Glenn is true to what he claims he stands for, he cannot deny the truth.
ranger22x
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:07pmWow!! When Rhino’s agree with Glenn something is up. Makes me swing toward Newt for sure!!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:22pmRanger, It’s RINO (Republican In Name Only) not the animal. The RINO’s are: Romney and Gingrich and Perry (Progressives) who are also Croni-Capitalists. Big Gov candidates. Paul: limited Fed Gov, power back to the people through their states, follow the Constitution policy. Paul is the only one in this uneasy time in history.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:31pm@Louise
Howdy! I hope you are doing well! I am quite pleased to see so many coming around to Ron Paul. Everyday more and more I talk to I hear the name Ron Paul.
I’m not sure Glenn is for Paul but is realizing Ron Paul is the best candidate running. Honestly, Glenn and Ron Paul don’t disagree on anything really. Not even foreign policy. Glenn doesn’t realize it but most of their policies are the same.
Glenn doesn’t support foreign aid, even to Israel as Glenn believes like David Ben-Gurion: Self Reliance and Independence. Same as Ron Paul. Glenn believes like BiBi that friends don’t try to tell other Nations what to do. Same as Ron Paul.
Glenn understands Progressive want to rule over the world, even Israel, and is the reasoning for “spreading democracy thru financial and military means”.
Glenn is for bringing all the troops home just like Ron.
Glenn is not for policing the world just like Ron.
Glenn is not for the UN like Ron.
The only disagreement between Ron and Glenn is Glenn wants to wage war on Iran and Ron is not going to beat the drums for war. I do believe if Congress brought the evidence for war against Iran Ron would wage a war to win it but Ron is not a promoter of war, but of peace. Isnt that how a leader of a country should be? I think so.
If one goes thru all the different policy views, Ron and Glenn align on 99% and the few they disagree on is simply a matter of leadership.
Stay safe!
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:33pmPresident Ron Paul, nice ring.
Report Post »Old Lion
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:51pmTo suggest that you would support Ron Paul and claim to be a man of God is hypocritical at best. I have lost all of my respect of you g. beck… Ron Paul has refused to protect the unborn child and marriage and this is disgusting for anyone who claims to be godly; I am deeply saddened… Dave in Texas
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:51pmCuppaJoe agrees with Glenn? BNB>BAD NEWS BEARS
Report Post »I don‘t TRUST a word out of Cuppa’s mouth. He is so stupid calling himself a Republican.LMAO
He’s a loony liberal collecting GREAT healthcare from his days in CONGRESS.
Didn’t help having a woman die in his congress office in Florida.
GO AWAY JOE and take Meeka-the russian chicky with you.
Gates
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:01pmJoe is a snake of the worst kind!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:02pmHere is something interesting. Fox continues to just talk about Romney and Gingrich on Happening now, but the poll they put up that they talked about this morning shows the following results:
Buddy Roemer: 29.33%
Paul: 26.05%
Romney: 17.03%
Johnson: 10.64%
Gringrich: 10.37%
All the rest below 3%
Just for your info in case they decide to take it down because it is not showing what they would want.
Here’s the link: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/happening-now/index.html#/v/1323735335001/obama-were-here-to-mark-the-end-of-this-war/?playlist_id=86919
Report Post »donh2
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:06pmFox is a dirty lobbyist network. Since Beck left you are seing regular guest appearances by Jack Abramoff….Soon Bernard Kerik will be chiming in political advice from his jail cell. Fox has CORRUPTED the Tea Party movement . The Gingrich nomination is the DEATH of the Tea movement. Nobody needs the Tea Party to push this old mental matrix of voting lesser of two evils. RINOS have been doing that for 20 years. Tea Party are looking more and more like same old Rinos out to deceive disappointed voters from breaking faith and leaving this failed fraud party whose only agenda is lose lose lose until we all surrender to NWO fascism.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:15pmOldLion, You know not what you are talking about. I guess that is because you, sir, are a Progressive and that is what Progressives do, lie. Go here to learn: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/statement-of-faith/
Start getting your act together.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:42pmWest Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:39pm
Rational, listen to these clips from Glenn. He say’s in his own words that Paul is the closest thing we have to George Washington. To me that is a type of endorsement since he has said many times, “Where is our George Washington?”
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The clip does not play the whole conversation with SE Cupp and does not take into account all the other clips that could be gathered where Beck says negative thinks about Paul.
Once again, you proved nothing!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:47pmThe people that understand the constitution will vote Ron Paul.
The people that are anti-global elite will vote Ron Paul.
The people that do the most research into law, history and politics will vote Ron Paul.
The people that realize that over 90% of all democratic and republican “politicians” are just progressive / socialist, global elite minions that are carrying out the global agenda will vote for Ron Paul.
The people that understand that the “politicians” are ‘Strawmen’ for their global elite bosses will vote for Ron Paul.
I could go on and on, I am just glad people are finally starting to wake up.
I knew Beck would come around.
Now all you Neo-Con morons can call Beck a ‘Paulbot’.
Ron Paul – President Lou Dobbs – VP **2012**
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:27pmVeterans are supporting a VETERAN….Gov Rick Perry
Report Post »Our military deserves a Commander In Chief they can be PROUD of and RESPECT
GOD BLESS OUR BRAVE MILITARY AND OUR BELOVED BRAVE VETERANS
http://www.rickperry.org/veterans/
hillbillyinny
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:46pm@ “dingbat” mike:
Glenn did NOT get fired from FOX!
He is not the same, he is better and right on presenting more and more truth all of the time–which he couldn’t do on a national network.
You may not like his positions, but you at least could get some of your facts straight. Listen to the compliation of Newt’s own statements concerning his progressivism, it’s availabe here on the BLAZE.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:50pm“He has a lifetime record of defending these American Values” ??? RP talks big with 30yrs on the dole and zero results. all talk ……….no show. Don’t tell what he will do……. tell me what has he done.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:03pm@republicorp, You don’t have anything, so you resort to lie. Pathetic.
Ron Paul for sure is the only candidate, who is NOT loosing his support.
Report Post »When you understand the meaning of freedom, you can’t come back.
“Freedom brings people together” RP
Doctor Nordo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:40pm@Republicorp
““He has a lifetime record of defending these American Values” ??? RP talks big with 30yrs on the dole and zero results. all talk ……….no show. Don’t tell what he will do……. tell me what has he done.”
That’s not really a fair argument to make. Ron Paul is a Congressman. Congressmen have votes that they cast and bills they can present, but none of their ideas have a prayer of coming to pass if they don’t have the support of their peers. Congress is full of such anti-Constitutional shmucks that it should come as no surprise if he has been somewhat ineffectual. That’s why I say put him in the role of President where he will have a lot more power to exert his influence. I guarantee you that we would see a change for the better.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:27pm@PATTY HENRY
“RON PAUL is NUTS”
Yep… Ron Paul is nuts 20% of the time…
The other 80% of the time he makes a helluva lot more sense than losers like newt, perry, and romney.
Report Post »Rached Madcow SHOW
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:58pmFirst Chris Mathews and now this clown! Wow! What happened to be careful who you stand with?
Report Post »Mitt Romney :”I think people recognize that I’m not a partisan Republican; that I’m someone who is moderate; and that my views are progressive,” he continued. “They’re going to vote for me regardless of the party label,” he added.
That must be a progressive of the OK variety. Even though they laughed about Newt and said “How many levels or types or time periods do progressives have?”
Andrew Breitbart of Big Government was among those who castigated Beck.
“I don’t care what he does, because he is dead to me,” Breitbart said, calling the talk show host a “huckster,“ a ”snake“ and a ”coward.”
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:03amLIke Mitt Romney BUY MANDATED MA HEALTH CARE isn’t BIG goernment.
Like Michelle Bachman voting to extend anti-constitution Patriot Act isn’t BIG GOVERNMENT or her harping on maintaining MASSIVE wars and 900 military installations all over the world when our Founding Fathers WARNED us against foreign entanglements.
And they all claim to be anti-abortion which is the ultimate sticking your nose into someone else’s body when it is none of their business.
After reviewing the lot of them, I am back to Ron Paul. I don’t like his stance on Iran or on abortion, but at least I KNOW for a FACT he would get the of the dept of education, etc. unlike the other candidates who just do lip service.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 7:04amBeck needs to get real! Paul = win for Obama…guaranteed. Romney = Massechusettes style big government. Gingrich = balanced budget government. Santorum = win for Obama. Bachmann = win for Obama.I think Beck is stepping over the edge. Or is Beck trying to help his fellow Mormon, Mitt. Anyone who has read Gingrich’s books does not consider him any kind of a monster like Beck trys to makes him out to be.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:36amPatty Henry and her ilk make me sad that people who proclaim to be for freedom, small government and individual rights just dont get it.
Patty watch this and get some more meaningful information instead of the media talking point of Paul is nuts and get an understanding of Blowback, which the CIA believes is what is at the root of the terrorist activity against the US. Security and CIA analyst tend to agree that our actions result in reactions in the form of Blowback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I8NhRPo0WAo#
I loves when he schools Santorum on history of US involvement in Iraq – what a little no-nothing punk
Report Post »headinhome7
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:50pmMMJ….I agree and to Glenn.I love you my friend but how could ANYONE vote for a man whom says “ALL DRUGS” should be legal AND “IRAN” should have an atomic bomb ? Glenn…I thought you love Israel and the United States! Ron Paul would be as dangerous for the U.S. as obama! Yhink about it! Eddie Shelton
Report Post »woodrowsux
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:33pmGlenn is giving tacit support and credibility to Ron Paul whether he thinks so or not. Ron Paul has said RECENTLY that 9/11 was our fault, he agrees with Van Jones as fellow 9/11 truther and he agrees with Barack Obama that Israel is at fault for most of the problems in the Middle East. He also blamed the 1992 Rodney King riots on “welfare recipient negroes who haven’t got their checks yet”. I like his small gonernment ideas for the economy and his unique stance on reparations, but that’s about it.
Report Post »milez5
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:21amAll of this explains why we need Mitt instead. Yes Mitt is a moderate, but there has only been two conservative nominee’s in the GOP since Ike, Goldwater and Reagan and only Reagan won. The rest have been progressive/neoconservative’s which have controlled the Republican party for fifty years.
Report Post »There are only two issues that matter in 2012, the economy and immigration. Romney has forgotten—now that Cain is out–more than the rest of the field will ever know about that. The other issue is immigration and I believe that Romney can be convinced to do something about that if the rest of the Republican party can be. He is the best man—running–for the job!!!
beaubird
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:11pmIf glenn would vote for Ron Paul he can go jump! That tells everybody he is a hypocrite cause that man is bad news and i have heard glenn say so !!!!!!!! He thinks President Bush blew up the towers so glenn is a idiot to vote for such!!!!!!!!!! He might as well hang his mic. up if he does!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Felonius
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:25pmYou miss the point. Ron Paul is the exaggerated lesser of evils if faced with Newt as the only other choice. This is not an endorsement of Paul. It’s an indictment of Gingrich.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:28pmIf he keeps this up and people listen to him, the GOP will lose and Obama will get another 4 years. I am just sick about this. Glenn is showing no mercy to a man who has asked forgiveness and says he has changed, even though Glenn received mercy regarding his past. Glenn said today he doesn’t care if he loses much of his audience. It appears he may get his self fulfilling prophecy if he continues on his rant. My gosh this is all getting ugly. We all need to get on our knees and pray that God will see to it the right person gets elected.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:32pm@beaubird
Report Post »Dr. Paul is not a truther. Where do you your info from? We must know where this cesspool of ignorance lives and destroy it at all costs. Please post the video of Paul being a truther. We are all waiting
BlazingInSC
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:39pmI have an idea @Beaubird — Maybe, if I put a bunch of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! behind my non-exclamatory exclamations, someone will notice and take my word as gospel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m not a Paul supporter, but your lies don’t serve your hatred for him very well – it simply discredits your tirade (and the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don’t strengthen your case either).
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:04pmIt is sad when we get to vote for the “blatant” lesser of two evils to lead out country over the cliff….;)
Report Post »jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:12pmWhat kills me is all of these alleged Constitutionalists running away from Ron Paul. The one guy that wants to really get at the root of our problems (think END the FED), stop runaway spending, chop bureaucratic federal departments and most importantly ensure your FREEDOM at home and all the Beck lovers do is say ‘BUT he won’t kill innocents in Muslim countries with undeclared war to protect Israel’. Well, they put it a little differently, but the outcome is the same.
Christians- I challenge you!!!
- What would Jesus do to respond to 9-11?
In the Sermon on the Mount in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus says:
You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
—Matthew 5:38-42, NIV
In the Sermon on the Plain[1] in the Gospel of Luke, Jesus says:
27 ¶ But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
Pray a
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 2:31pmIn 1900, drugs were legal and there was no problem with Iran. In 1900, people had less school and most had more brains with a lot of common sense. Today, drugs are not only illegal but they are a severe problem for families and most people have no common sense. Today, Iran is embarking on making a nuke. Ron Paul would bring 1900 solutions to todays world. This is crazy talk. We need todays solutions today. The Constitution is under the control of 9 lifetime judges that can do whatever the hell they want to do. All this talk about Constitution has to go through these 9 judges and ammendments are pretty well out of the question these days. We have a real mess on our hands and the best thing to do is to balance the budget so we can buy some time to fix things one by one. Newt is the only one in recent times that has balanced the budget.
Report Post »beaubird
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:09pmAnybody that would vote for that idiot Paul is stupid!!!He is a conspiritor and a nut!!!!! Everybody else has enough sense NOT to vote for him and if glen does he is as stupid as Paul is, He is a little nothing worm that whines all the time. There is no way in hell him or trump could be presd. They just want to mess up the election and so does glenn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Churchill
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:27pmWhy are you so scared of Ron Paul Beaubird? Are you afraid the big bad Iranians are gunna get you if we don’t go and start dropping bombs on them? They won’t do anything cos they know Israel will wipe them off the map!! The Republican party has traditionally been non-interventionist, the founders were non-interventionist and true conservative foreign policy is about having a strong defence, but staying out of peoples business. You neocons need to go back to the Democrat party, as they’ve always been the war party.
The biggest threat to our country is the debt and socialism. Ron Paul is the only one who’s got a proper debt reduction plan. He’s also the only person planning to scrap the department of education, which needs to be done to stop the socialist indocrination.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:30pmYou sir, have little understanding of what is going on. Congrats.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:30pmAnyone that would agree with that idiot beaubird is stupid!!!! Nyah! Nyah! What would you call ripping off the American people to the tune of 1.6 Million for your own personal gain by consulting with a gov’t company on a topic – real estate – that has nothing to do with either POLITICS OR HISTORY. What Newt is a frigging real estate specialist? He was the CEO CBRE or 21 Century Realty? No. Stop being a frantic nut ball.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:40pmBeaubird is just stir the pot here. He knows he is trolling.
Report Post »P-51D
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:43pmChurchill,
Report Post »you are waisting your time with him. He will vote for anybody with the big R in front of their name because Fox News, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Mark Levin will tell him who to vote for. He is one of the sheeple.
jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:17pm@Escape~
I have quit Beck altogether over this issue. Alex Jones loves this country as much as anyone. I don’t agree with everything I hear on his show, but I do believe he has more integrity than Beck any day. Sorry Beck, I like you, but you are being a selfish egotistical ass over Jones and Paul.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:16pmBeaubird, You and people like you fear Individual Liberty as it takes hard work and steady morals. All you Progressives that post on this site, lie. That is what Progressives do best, lie. You cannot tell a candidates policy views honestly, you have to repeat the lies you have heard from other Progressives. If you are so against Constitutional principles, you are not true Americans. How did our free society get to the point where freedom is not important, that our Constitution is flawed? All of you sound like Barack Obama in this fight against Constituional principles. Do you Progressives really believe tha Constitution is full of negative liberties? Get real here. Our country is about to bite the big one from getting away from our Constitution, and all of you just want to continue to erode it until it is not recognizable at all. Ron paul is THE only candidate that has always taken his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. The only one!
Report Post »jimtrees
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:39pmI wish Joe and Glenn would both take a good look down the barrel of a shotgun, then pull the trigger. That’s all i want for Christmas.
Report Post »junior1971
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:06pmThose of you who claim that you know what Paul stands for, list 10 policy proposals he has presented. Tell me where he claims that he will throw Israel under the bus. Or where he will allow Iraq to actually use nukes. Russia and China are assisting those lunatics in their endeavors. Then tell me where the constitution supports all that our gov has been doing and is doing around the world. Beating obummer is so important that you would vote for him if he ran against himself. Morons!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:09pmRon Paul stands with Israel. I‘m not quite sure what Beck doesn’t like about Dr. Paul’s foreign policy. Beck has never stated exactly “WHAT” I’d really like to hear Beck and Paul discuss SPECIFICS — like “if this happens” or “if that happens” — How do they differ?
People won’t have to worry about 3rd party this election. Just work like heck to get Dr. Paul the nomination to begin with. I’m really sick of “3rd party talk” — it’s idle chatter.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:20pmDr. Paul is 2nd in Iowa and Newt is falling fast:
“ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
There are a lot of parallels between Paul’s base of support in Iowa and what Obama did in 2008- young voters, independents, etc
12 minutes ago
ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Paul’s net favorability in Iowa is up 16 points compared to a week ago. Must have said something right in that debate
19 minutes ago
ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Newt’s net favorability in Iowa is down 19 points in the last week
29 minutes ago
ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Report Post »We’re going to get the Iowa numbers out this afternoon. Significant tightening between Gingrich and Paul in the last week
33 minutes ago”
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:26pmI really don‘t understand why Glenn doesn’t support Paul. The only thing I can think of is he is stuck on the fact the Paul wants to cut aid to Israel. Never mind that Paul wants to cut ALL foreign aid and we give MORE money to Israel‘s enemies so it’d really be a net gain for Israel.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:28pm@ JUNIOR : Your moniker says it all . Your brain is not fully developed. DR PAUL is an Ostrich with his head in the sand while the Hyena is eating his a____ss . Alive !!
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:30pmDid BB set him self, he don’t need aid from usa? He wants Israel to be free country, not US’s satellite.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:33pm@vech
I dont think Dr. Paul will run as a 3rd party. But if there were a need for him to as in he didnt get the nomination, his supporters, myself included will write him in. At that point I will have lost all hope for this country and its over.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:55pm@Vechoric, just imagine, when superbrochures get to super voters in Iowa.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:10pm@11, my wife made a theory, everything Glenn is talking about is consistent with Ron Paul. Except Glenn want to “help” Israel, even if they don’t want our help. Ron Paul want to let Israel determine them self.
Report Post »So, why Glenn is so against RP? EGO. Ron Paul was many times on Alex Jones show, and Glenn hates Jones’s guts. I know that from ppl working in Fox News.
jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:20pm@Escape~
I have quit Beck altogether over this issue. Alex Jones loves this country as much as anyone. I don’t agree with everything I hear on his show, but I do believe he has more integrity than Beck any day. Sorry Beck, I like you, but you are being a selfish egotistical ass over Jones and Paul.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:03pmAbsolution, May be the word of the election season at the moment.
Here the Dr. Paul supporters drew the line & have stood watch on the deck calling to rest of you at the top of our lungs. Water is filling the galley now, and slowly the alarm moves through the masses. It’s alright brothers and sisters, us Paul-bots have readied all the life boats in advance. Nothing to worry about, there is room for all. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all, this is truly the most magical time of year.
Peace, Love, & rEVOLution
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:05pm@ ARMED : You fool
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:41pmArmedPrincess, this is great
Report Post »jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:20pmDitto Princess! Peace be with you. And I pray for peace all over the world. I am ashamed that in the name of freedom my government kills innocent people.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:32pm@Patriotgrunt
Foolishness is spending Trillions of dollars on wars of aggression that have no end. Foolishness is sacrificing some of our bravest young men and women to those wars, and not caring about how many are killed or maimed. Foolishness is spending ones time in the bottle so as to keep ones self blind and complacent to the prison they were born into, and too spineless to do anything about it. Foolish is thinking you can insult me, and not back it up.
Give me Liberty, or give me Death!
Report Post »Hoosieratarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:11pmFrankly you guys, Ron Paul is the only option to beat Obama. The sooner everyone comes to that realization the better.
Ron Paul supporters don’t waiver and its because once your eyes have been opened to the message of true liberty, you cannot unsee it. I will vote for Ron Paul if I have to write his name in and will never vote for the lesser of 2 evils again and I suspect I am not the only one of this opinion. So we either join together behind Ron Paul or we split and give it to Obama.
So come on in, the water feels great! And you’ll love taking the weight off your shoulders of having to defend a political party.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:41pm@ARMEDPRINCESS
Don’t sweat the ankle biters. They can only call you a “fool” because they have no intellectual recourse for what you have written.
Some of these people are so dumb and brainwashed, they would cut off their noses to spite their face, just because GB or the TV told them to.
Paul has been trying to warn them of the flood for 30+ years, and NOW it is starting to rain. HARD.
If the American people do not wake up in time to realize that they have ONE chance to get someone with integrity into the White House, then the blame will be on THEIR SHOULDERS, not ours.
Paul is a “PALEOCONSERVATIVE.” He is what the GOP USED TO BE. If they do not find their way, and fall for another charlatan like Newt or Romney, then they unfortunately deserve what they get.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 8:13pm@ Jefferson
Thank you Jefferson. There are times were I almost wish just one person from the other side would, and more importantly could challenge my assertions in a actual debate fashion. Hope your having a great evening, and a wonderful Christmas season.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:03pmUh oh…Beck and the loser at MSNBC on the same page; very disconcerting. Which is why I make my own opinon. Both Beck and Scarborough need to read and listen to Mark Levin. Much better insight than both the gents I mentioned. Paul is unelectable in both primary and general election. Thank God!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:10pmTRONINTHEMORNING, are you going to eat those words after the Iowa primary?
Report Post »Please be sure to check back in.
horsehockey
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:11pmYeh, when GB starts touting his sameness with Scarborough, it’s something to cause concern.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:15pm@Vech
Report Post »I hope I don’t have to eat those words; now that I see the Beck/Scarbough/Paul coalition; well, it’s just stranger than fiction. But I’ll be here; will Ron?
Rational Man
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:18pmI agree with your statement about Paul. But I think you miss the point here. If a liberal like Scarborough thinks Newt is liberal, then Beck must be right about Newt being liberal. Even a liberal nut like Scarborough thinks Newt is liberal. So Beck’s estimation of Newt sounds right to me. I still don’t think he is as bad as Obama though. Nobody is that bad!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:19pm@TRON .. but he could run third party and GET OBAMA REELECTED .. if he does that .. he and ANYONE who supports him should be painted with TRAITOR!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:23pm“Ron Paul in stat tie with Newt
for 2nd…just announced on FOX…this is in New Hampshire.”
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:28pmI do not want Ron Paul as my GOP candidate. He does have the option of running third party, though many of his supporters say he would not. How would anyone really know? If Paul ran third party, we would be screwed with Obama again. That is simple math. So, when Paul does not get the nod, he needs to tell his supporter to vote GOP, regardless. If he does not do this, Paul and his supporters take full blame in ushering in another 4 years of the Barackracy.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:33pmmark levin is the biggest idiot on radio, and that says a lot.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:39pm@RIVER..
Levin an idiot? Please do enlighten me on your conclusion. This should be good. LOL!
Report Post »Fella
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:41pmThe only person threatening to run 3rd party right now is Donald Trump, and that is if Paul gets the nom. One really has to wonder if idiots like CATB and Tron are even paying attention.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:49pmWhy the 3rd party talk? We’re talking about Ron Paul GOP Nomination!
“Just tweeted by PPP
Among Iowa voters whose minds are totally made up: Paul 29, Gingrich 21, Romney 18, Bachmann 11 “
Report Post »Fella
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:59pmTrump Pulls Out of GOP Debate: I‘m Unwilling to Say I Wont ’Run As an Independent’
Guess Trump is a Traitor, right Catb??? Right?!?! Lol
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:03pm@catb
Report Post »@tronin
So, by people using their Constitutional right to vote you are now traitors or are to blame for the countries problems? Why don’t you just have Allen West deem us terrorists and hall us away to a secrete camp somewhere?
CatB
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:17pm@FELLA …
Name calling all you got? Geez some of you are threatened by anyone who points out a possiblity. Yes anyone who calls themselves a Republican or Conservative WOULD be a traitor if they run third party and get Obama re-elected .. I do not want to live in the Communist United States. That is WHAT this comes down to .. the END OF AMERICA as we know it. If you do not see that then I feel sorry for you. Me — I will defend the United States just as my many times Great-Grandfathers did in fighting in the Revolutionary War for the UNITED STATES.
TEA!
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:18pmMark Levin? Is he the guy that yells, screams and calls everyone names? The is a reason he is on at night. An angry little man.
Report Post »Fella
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:21pmName calling was just a bonus to the more direct point that you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. And an article just popped up that proves once again how clueless and vile you are.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:27pmNo offense to TRONINTHEMORNING, but just because someone has access to a microphone or a tv show — that doesn’t make them RIGHT. They are media whores. It’s up to the people to do their homework and know which parts are news and which parts are trash. Just like having a conversation with “normal people on the street.”
I can’t think of ONE news/media person that I agree 100% with — not even Glenn Beck.
Report Post »I’m voting Ron Paul and I can say I agree with him about 95% (maybe there‘s some place I’m wrong LOL)
PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:31pm@ VECHORIK : You are Stupid . You efen PAULISTA ZELOT. Pull your head out of Dr Pauls anal cavity. @ Riverdog No words can describe you . You are beyond Stupid : Levine is not the bigest Idiot . You are , Huff Post Troll.@ NOSENSE : I Quit , you aren’t worth commenting about.
hidden_lion
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:17pmthe two party system has floundered. The country is anything but “united”. It is beyond time for a third party to help blend our country back to the United sates, the land of freedom for all. The two parties have twisted us into having less freedom and from strong independent citizens into lazy leeches that suck the blood out of anything that is prosperous. I am voting Ron Paul regardless. It would be more honest not to vote at all than to vote for a candidate that I don’t think is right.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:18pm@CatB
Hahahahaha! You calling anyone a traitor is absolutely hilarious!
You are the one running around saying “TEA” all the while supporting the Federal Reserve, policing the world, and entitlements! All 3 are the leading contributors to the deficit and spending which create HIGHER taxes!
You obviously have never served your country cause if you had you wouldn’t be running around using the word “traitor” against everyone who disagreed with your progressive views because honorable men would take that word traitor as a challenge and you’d lose some teeth. You have no honor and are a disgrace to every man in uniform. You aren’t TEA, you are a wanna be and a useful idiot by definition.
Report Post »jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:27pmTron = Wrong
Ron Paul is imminently electable and the problems that are nation is facing are tailor-made to his message. No other Republican candidate has the cross-over appeal of Ron Paul. You want a conservative in the White House? Then you better get on the Ron Paul train. There’s lots of room- His message is LIFE (rights of the individual), LIBERTY and JUSTICE (think sound money).
Report Post »I am begging you to think and pray about Ron Paul. Our country depends on it!
jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:32pm@ tron and catb,
Now exactly what is it about Ron Paul that you don’t like?
Consistent Constitutional voting record?
Foreign policy that is Constitutional and does not condone killing innocents over a ‘potential’ attack?
Ending the Fed and bringing back sound money (stopping theft by ending inflation)?
I am puzzled.
Report Post »Thanks,
NEUTRON
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:21pm@ tron , patriotgruntohh how I feel sorry for you guys. Your rants make me laugh at best. Glad to see people like commonsence, colt 1860, fella, were born with brain cells, a sense of freedom and well common sense. RP isnt running for 3rd party hes running for the GOP nomination. I think TRon Patriot need to pull thier heads out of the sand/butts.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:29pmPatriotgrunt and all you other Progressives, Hear me when I say, you should change your mind about Paul. If he does not get the nomination, all his supporters will be calling for him to run third party. All of his supporters will vote for him. Since you know this, you will be the ones putting BO back in by voting for the Progressive GOP candidate. Just because they have GOP behind them does not make them conservative. A Progressive is a Progressive is a Progressive, whether they ar GOP or Dem. When this happens, if you truly do not want BO to have a chance, you need to vote for Paul. Sorry, just the way it is.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:02pmI like the way liberals are coming to Paul, and yet his supporters keep telling us that Paul is the most conservative candidate and “founded the Tea Party”.
Report Post »Oil and water don’t mix.
What a joke!
AhLeahIris
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:08pmIt’s ridiculous to assert than any of the Republicans are “no different” from this guy: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1HL
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:11pm@Rational Man
Report Post »Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:02pm
‘I like the way liberals are coming to Paul, and yet his supporters keep telling us that Paul is the most conservative candidate and “founded the Tea Party”. Oil and water don’t mix.’
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Liberals and libertarians have a lot of common ground as far as protection of individual civil liberties and minimal involvement in war. I agree with both of these stances.
JP16
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:45pmRon Paul is the most conservative when it comes to fiscal and constitutional topics. Once you get into Social Conservatism you start to see when his beliefs about an individual’s liberty reject the social conservative stance. In a sense of liberty, you could say that what is considered Social Conservatism actually is more like Social Statism, where “Conservatives” use the power of government to enforce their social beliefs on others. See, in any other issue I probably would get 100% agreement, but socially we’ve been trained to fit in and see those who are different as doing something wrong, so we try to make them do what we consider right. However, doing that is infringing upon their individual liberty.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:52pmYou seriously need to change your name to rationalizing man. How did Obama grab all the middle of the road independents and blue dog liberals? “I’ll bring home the troops and end the wars!” Who would you trust to actually end those wars now if you’re a little lefty loosey goose? Obama or Paul? The answer is glaringly obvious even to an addled liberal of any sort.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:52pmI wouldn’t use “oil and water” to describe the situation of American Politics.
Just like the vote against the “indefinite detention of Americans” — there were Democrats that had the good Constitutional sense to vote against that.
How many times do I have to say it? Glenn says it too — “It’s NOT a matter of Democrat or Republican — it’s a matter of PROGRESSIVE POLICIES (which can be found in BOTH parties)
Study United Nations Agenda 21 to see the goal of Democrat and Republican PROGRESSIVES
Report Post »Learn how to recognize a PROGRESSIVE: (like Romney and Gingrich)
Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:55pmMitt Romney called his policies ‘progressive’ in 2002
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/1…e-progressive/
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:56pmAnd, to expand… the only republican candidate I trust to actually end our wars quickly and bring all the troops home? Paul. To any conservative on this website, it‘s absolutely obvious he’s the only candidate that wouldn’t waiver in that charge.
Report Post »Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:58pmThe liberals that are finding favor with Paul are not progressives. What’s being pointed out by Beck and by Scarborough is that both parties have been infiltrated for years by progressives. The plan was laid out by Carroll Quigley in Tragedy & Hope. It’s not complex, and it’s not a conspiracy. We have fallen asleep at the wheel and the progressives have taken advantage of every situation and crisis (even creating more than a few) to further their agenda.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:22pmEven liberals can see where this democrat republican manure has gotten us, they are just as sick of obama and these endless wars as we are. I want to point out how hypocritical you newt supporters are, you sit here and wine about a third party when Dr Ron Paul could win the nomination and when trump mentions third party run you have orgasms??? Somethings wrong in your litlle brains.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:42pmTruth, You hit that nail on the head.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:57pmQue music *hallelujah* for Joe, Glenn and all the people that were bashing Paul that are now changing their minds.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:06pmIf liberal joe scarborough says it then it must wrong.
Report Post »GINRICH, 2012
Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:12pmYou like Gingrich‘s gun record better than Romney’s huh?
2012 Presidential Candidates – Gun Owners Of America
http://www.gunowners.org
Ron Paul A+
Report Post »Rick Perry A
Michelle Bachmann A
Rick Santorum B-
Newt Gingrich C
Mitt Romney D-
A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:27pmAnyone that would agree with that idiot beaubird is stupid!!!! Nyah! Nyah! What would you call ripping off the American people to the tune of 1.6 Million for your own personal gain by consulting with a gov’t company on a topic – real estate – that has nothing to do with either POLITICS OR HISTORY. What Newt is a frigging real estate specialist? He was the CEO CBRE or 21 Century Realty? No. Stop being a frantic nut ball.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:29pmThat last post was to someone else! Far as you, Clarence, mmmmm I was posting that music for all the other people I pointed out, in the post. Your music? *Que* Mars by Gustav Holst.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:52pmThat last post was to someone else! Far as you, Clarence, mmmmm
Report Post »Actually a really well orchistated piece always loves the bold music. But I’m actually more of a Pantera listener. Not sure where you were going with that but thanks for the new ring tone.
A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:12pmLol, you can’t see the difference between the songs Hallelujah and Mars? One jubilant in 4/4 the other so dark it was only possible in 5/4. Far as Pantera, Paul gets Cowboys from Hell; Newt gets This Love – that line “I said I loved but I lied” fits him perfectly.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:14pmPatriotgrunt – No thank you :) So nice to see I make you that angry. What’s wrong princess?
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:13pm@ CONSERVATARIAN : I didn’t think that you would get off of your knees .Maybee next time you can grab your ankles and walk backwards to Dr Paul . That will trully show your devotion to your God Dr Paul. ZELOT. Look it up in WEBSTERS DICTIONARY and then look in the mirror. You will then know who you really are. The difference between me and you moron is this . I will vote for Paul if he wins the nomination but you will not vote unless it’s Paul. You efen TRAITOR. ANY ONE BUT THE MUSLIM !!!!!!!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:20pmyou can’t see the difference between the songs Hallelujah and Mars
I quite aware how very different the two were… Mars is just much much more powerful and ominous reminds me of Conan or lords of shadows…..Love that type of music.
As for my original comment there’s this thing called sarcasm look it up. I was being sarcastic in my oppinion of supposed conservative Joe (thinly vailed closet liberal) scarborough. Point being he said the sky was blue I would doubt it.
Report Post »His fear is that Obama would have to debate Gingrich and Obama not being up for the challenge, he is also is directing votes to a third party to spitting the conservative voting at the same time.
And yes paul is the right man for the better choice and in better times I would vote for paul even he I knew he would lose just to send a message to the establish that is the RNC. However this is not the time for political posturing we need candidate anyone right of Obama. I don’t see Dr. Paul winning however I’m hoping that Rand can run in 2016.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:46pmPatriotgrunt, Look up NEOCON and Croni-capitalist, read it, then look in the mirror and you will see what you are sir, a Progressive Marxist.
Report Post »SageInWaiting
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:54pmMessNBC agrees with Glenn? THAT has me scared. Gingrich/Romney are big gov’t disasters waiting to happen. A vote for a 3rd party (Paul) would guarantee Obama a second term. Tell me again how THAT is good? A Dem heading for the cliff at 120 MPH or the GOP on the same course obeying the speed limit? The final location is the same… except I think Newt also would drive with a lead foot. Decisions that really aren’t “decisions:” do you want the cyanide tablet, a bullet to the head, or the cement shoes and a roll off the pier.
Report Post »matt1776
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:09pmThe reason is simple. If we go over the cliff with the GOP driving, the Marxists will blame small government and the free market and say, “See it failed!” It would be much better to vote third party, and let Obama destroy us, that way we still have the possibility of being rebuilt as our founders envisioned, as it will then be clear, that Obama/Marxism is the cause of our current problems. Unfortunately, the American people are idiots, and the only way they will see how Marxist this land has become, is for that ideology to be at the helm, when the economy disintegrates. If Gingrich is at the helm (he won’t change anything) then his “party” will get the blame, that unfortunately is the state of intelligence of the American people.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:20pm@ SAGEINWAITING : Couldn’t agree with you more . Well said . Glen & Joe, DO TWO MORONS MAKE A RIGHT . I am so glad that I didn‘t subscribe to Glen’s Moron GBTV. I can’t believe that Glen Moron wants the MUSLIM for another 4 years. WTF happened to Glen , is it to much money , is the Ego just a bit to big , what a efen hypocrite . Surely he knows that 3rd party means the MUSLIM will be re -elected . Surely. FK Glen. I am going to use the $ 49.95 that I saved from not buying into the BECK GBTV and get Drunk . When I wake up this will be only a bad dream .
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:28pmThe truth is the truth — no matter WHO says it!
Report Post »neverending
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:54pmWish you would stop blocking my post.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:51pmWho was Joseph Smith and why does Glenn Beck think he was a Prophet?
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:49pm@ MODEL82A1 : Because Beck is a efen liar. he is delusional and his Ego is larger than an Eliphants a——–ss. He has become a “ GOD ” that is what the MORMANS believe. We become GODS when we die.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:27pmWow! Just love you guys. If you don’t like someone’s views, you attack his Religion. You probably just hate the bill of rights.
Report Post »SIXFRIGATES
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:50pmYes Glenn, guarantee an Obama re-election… You fool!
Newt is infinitely better than Obama. Paul is insane. He would be worse for national security than Obama is. Your extremism is beginning to show Glenn. If you push for Paul, YOU will doom the nation.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:55pmAmen and amen.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:01pmNewt is NOT better than Obama. You are wrong. They are all pretty much, as a whole, walking in lockstep taking this nation down the path you fear. Because you can’t wake up to this fact, you are going to keep playing the fools game of voting for lesser of two evils rather than give your vote to the one who earns it.
RON PAUL 2012
Report Post »tbl10
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:02pmNews flash you moron, if either guy wins we are doomed. Barrack and Newt are both for Big Government, they have said repeatedly they believe Government is the solution to the problems. Unless we take drastic measures to limit the size and scope of the Government, this country will die. Government IS NOT the solution IT IS THE PROBLEM. Wake up you tool.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:03pmRon Paul’s stance on National Defense was the Foreign Policy of this Country for over 150 years. If that’s not enough, how about explaining to us how you pay for Policing the World. We are going in debt almost $49,000.00 a second. Maybe you have not got the memo but we are Bankrupt.
Report Post »Opino1984
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:37pmSo you would rather have a King who would declare war on his own, commit troops thousands of miles away to die for foreigners in foreign lands, a king who is completely unaccountable to a Congress that won’t do its job. A King that decides because you oppose his policies you should be imprisoned indefinitely or killed outright without trial or charge. A king who spends billions to benefit his friends and allies and commits your sons and daughters to die for those same elite friends of his so that their stock prices will go up a few points and they make out like bandits while the government pays your family a pittence to bury your child?
This is the “America” you would prefer to live in? An America without a Constitution where the “president” rules as an autocrat without any accountability beyond the fact that you MIGHT vote him out after four years if you can stomach his opponent at that time? His opponent who will continue those same policies and even expand them, leading us further into the abyss of insanity?
That’s not MY America, but if that’s your choice, certainly vote for ObamaNewtRomney – while you still have the freedom to “choose” your media picked candidates.
Report Post »Critical Thinker
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:43pmPaul is Insane? Name calling does not constitute facts. How about some evidence? Oh, and before you point out his “dangerous stance on foreign policy”, do a little more homework. You might realize how much power the Iranian president actually has (very little). Also consider that Iran already has chemical WMD’s that could have been used on Israel a long time ago. So if Iran desires to wipe Israel off the map, they could actually do it today. The foreign policy points are just MSM fear-mongering. Is Iran dangerous? YES, but not suicidal. Lets calm down and think here.
As for his social libertarian views, wake up; he DOES NOT want your kids on drugs, it’s about states rights. He wants drug policy to be decided by the states, not the federal government. For example: If the Federal Government made Drugs legal today, it does not mean your state will or will have to follow. What it would do however, is free up states to decide exactly how to deal with drug addiction. It would also put the cartels out of business. This is far better than today’s draconian civil war on drug addicts commonly referred to as the War on Drugs (which has failed). Besides, most conservatives want states rights anyway, look what happened in AZ when they passed SB1070. You are either for states rights or not, you don’t get to pick and choose to match your particular your ideology.
So if small government, sound money, individual liberty and states rights are crazy, then yes, Ron Paul is truly in
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:48pmI really think people here better do your homework…Vote for the right person, not the party.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:50pmAsk Glenn why he wears Special Underpants.
Report Post »PossumStu
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:48pmAbout freaking time Glenn said something good about Ron Paul. It’s just too bad he had to get there as a last resort, after all his flavors of the week (Newt, Cain, etc…) turned out to be flops.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:53pmGlenn moves around a lot:
Glenn Beck (06/14/2011): “Ron Paul is the closest to our Founding Fathers”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyI1EC5i2U
symphonic
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:03pmI was thinking that Glenn Beck was not consistent. Listened to him yesterday though, and he thinks he is, he said “at least I am consistent.” Well, no, not if you change positions like this, and as long as you continue to ignore 911 WT7 coming down in a demolition and turn a blind eye to those very strange events that took place that day, events that do not add up to the official stories. The inside job facts screaming in our faces.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:05pm@KidCharlemagne
“Ron Paul is the closest to our Founding Fathers”
By age only………………..
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:47pmWhat a squirmy thing Beck’s political opinion is. Beck is now looking for validation from MSNBC for his opinion that he will vote for a third party candidate if Newt is the Republican nominee. What is it that Breitbart called Glenn because of this?
Glenn is our little unpredictable sprite, our little ‘caganer’:
http://wonkette.com/458166/foreigners-delight-in-sarah-palin-pooping-on-nativity-set
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:49pmA little caganer who does his business on any chance of a Republican winning the next election.
Report Post »bandi9
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:45pmtotally agreed with you convictobama. Pretty disappointed in Glenn here. we have got to keep our eye on the prize here: Obama must be defeated! Whoever the Repub nominee is MUST have our support!
Report Post »danconia
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:23pmI think Beck is losing it on this one!
Report Post »I’ve been a Beck supporter since he started on Fox.
Ron Paul running as a third party would give the election to Obummer!
ANY GOP candidate now running would be light years better than the anointed one.
Beck said the election was not important.
He is wrong.
It’s the first step in getting our country back!
rotcarpenter
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:41pmExcellent new ally for Glenn Beck! Scarborough!
If Glenn starts to brag him up or go.. “Oh I know we had our differences but…” You know Glenn is finally lost it.
Report Post »badbarber54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:13pmGlen has become no more than a carnival barker. Hiya hiya step right up see the freak show.
Report Post »see Glen sell gold, sell food, sell tickets to his latest Glen-o-thon, See Glen the soothsayer predict the end of civilization, unless you follow his master plans. See Glen reelect the most dangerous president in American history.
I listen to Glen daily and have followed him since he was on HLN. During the last several month I have witnessed his foaming at the mouth, and ramblings. Now I just listen for the sheer shock of his transformation.
PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:25pm@ BADBARBER54 : Sad Isn’t it. WTF happened to BECK .
Report Post »face_reality
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:51pmI am not sure what is Glenn’s problem but someone needs to get hold of him and shake, In my opinion he has gotten as bad as Obama…he thinks he is the Mesiah, and an arrogent narcisist,he has become Michelle Bauchmans attack dog just like the progressives do!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »gobucks100
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:39pmWatch how close minded woman (cant remember her name) sitting next to Scarborough is. Mention Beck and she completely shuts down and pouts. She needs to go back to Russia where they don’t have any voter irregularity issues at all.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:37pmHer name is Mika Brezwenski Her daddy worked for JIMMY CARTER
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:35pmRon Paul WILL be the next US President if the people’s vote really counts! He’s the ONLY Republican candidate that beats “O” in head to head polls, BAR NONE!
Ron Paul, a TRUE American Patriot.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:44pmi have to agree with you, i never considered paul until i took a look at his web site and see that for the most part i agree with him, altho i think if iran gets the bomb we should make it a parking lot……..
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:55pm@oldguy49
If Iran gets the bomb, Israel will turn them into a parking lot. With Paul as president they will get diplomatic support of “their” choice on defending themselves. Iran poses no threat to us, yet we are landing drones on their land. If China or Russia were flying over us with drones we would be pissed and wanting war. Think about it.
Quit listening to Bill Orielly or Glenn Beck on who to vote for. Do the research, read the Constitution, and pray. It will lead you to the only real chance we have as a country left. Everyone bashes Ron Paul for being “radical”. What do you think this country needs? We need radical change. We are 15 trillion in debt, we are in 180 countries with 900 bases, our economy is a wreck, and we have anarchist, free loaders, communists on the verge of rioting in every major city.
Seems like time for some RADICAL change.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:57pmMore you do your home work, more you want Ron Paul.
Report Post »SageInWaiting
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:07pmPaul is ALL over the map: some great ideas; a lot of VERY scary, dangerous proposals. He’s a bit old for the job and is definite a borderline nutcase. I get the ibby-geebies whenever I hear him speak… in this polarized country, he doesn’t stand a chance in the general election. The majority of the electorate makes decisions emotionally, not cognitively/rationally. Why do you think the class warfare has been so successful? (”It’s not faaair“ will trump ”That ain’t smart!”) Does the term “reprobate mind” ring a bell?
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:28pm@sage
LOL all over the map huh. In a election head to head with Obama Ron Paul has the only shot.
Gingrich and Romney are closer to Obama views than the other choices. They could be his running mates for vp. Also, the Ron Paul supports are tired of the Bush, Mcain, Gingrich, Romney crowd.
WE WILL NOT SUPPORT ANOTHER FAKE!!!! Ron Paul is getting our vote. So either vote with us or get another 4 with Obama and let the whole thing burn. This is our last chance. We have three choices:
1. Ron Paul – turns this crap storm around and we go though a controlled bankruptcy.
2. Obama – we continue the same polices and more than likely speed up the crash ensuring there are no survivors and afterwards we have total domination by the federal govt.
or
3. Gingrich/Romney – for the most part the same plan with minor changes and we keep on the same track as Obama has us on. The end results are the same.
Gingrich and Romney are on video both championing liberal values and FDR. Come on people wake up.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:32pmIf you’re worrying about Dr. Paul DYING during office, don’t worry. He has an excellent VP in mind that will carry the country forward (or BACKWARD — like BACK to the Constitution).
Report Post »louise
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:36pmVechorik….“back to the future” ….!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:48pmLouise, I like the way you think.
Report Post »Opino1984
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:35pmSo… Why not support Ron Paul now? The only other front runner is really no different from Gingrich if you look at his voting record and stances (Romney). I respect those who support Perry, Bachman, Santorum, or Huntsman, but the leaders in the polls right now are Newt Romney and Ron Paul. If Ron Paul is your second choice if Gingrich were to win (and he might win in Iowa) why not support Paul now and give him that boost to beat Gingrich in Iowa?
And as to his foreign policy stance, as a CONSTITUTIONAL president, there isn’t much he could do without Congress declaring war. Congress loves war, no matter the party in control, so if you want war with Iran, it WILL happen. The only thing Ron would do on the FP side of things is issue letters of Marque and Reprisal to take out terrorists or high value targets without sending billions to two faced “allies” like Pakistan or wasting thousands of American lives on nation building projects.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:09pmHear, hear!
Report Post »jnpg
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:41pmExcellent points. Keep talking sense about Ron Paul and those with ears will finally hear!
Report Post »convictobama
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:35pmGlenn:
Report Post »Give yourself a reach around. You have really screwed the pooch on this one. ( which by the way may be legal if u r military)
MSNBC agrees with your plan to RE ELECT Obama.
A vote for Ron Paul will be wasted. By the time the election rolls around we will need a strong leader, Post EU crash… A Military type, not Paul.
So again suck it up and Vote for Newt!!
I was for Cain. ( until I heard he was a fed….)
I am for Santorum and Bachman. But a 6% dog don’t hunt. And everyone knows a hunting dog is special and irreplaceable…
Glenn Instead Lets make Newt promise in writing, to Obey Constitution and issue no executive orders or have Czars?
He will tear up Obummer and spit him out, hes no McCain…
Churchill
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:36pmRon Paul is a veteran. He’s served his country. When did Newt? He was too busy lining his own pockets!!
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:34pm@ convictobama : +1 100% .
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:45pmI’m for KEEPING MY CIVIL LIBERTIES while getting the jobs and economy straightened out. Ron Paul will do that. Bachmann and Santorum “sacrifice liberty” like with the antiPatriot act, which led to the “indefinite detention” bill. They don’t understand the Constitution, yet ask us to let them run the country. No thanks.
Report Post »Opino1984
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:34pmSo… Why not support Ron Paul now? The only other front runner is really no different from Gingrich if you look at his voting record and stances (Romney). I respect those who support Perry, Bachman, Santorum, or Huntsman, but the leaders in the polls right now are Newt Romney and Ron Paul. If Ron Paul is your second choice if Gingrich were to win (and he might win in Iowa) why not support Paul now and give him that boost to beat Gingrich in Iowa?
And as to his foreign policy stance, as a CONSTITUTIONAL president, there isn’t much he could do without Congress declaring war. Congress loves war, no matter the party in control, so if you want war with Iran, it WILL happen. The only thing Ron would do on the FP side of things is issue letters of Marque and Reprisal to take out terrorists or high value targets without sending billions to two faced “allies” like Pakistan or wasting thousands of American lives on nation building projects.
Report Post »convictobama
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:46pmI love Ron Pauls Monetary policies and agree 100%.!!
Report Post »The foreign policy is worrying to every American I know.
1. The world is not honest and assuming they are and will do the right thing is dangerous.
2. trying to stop missiles is hard if you let them lob 10,000 at a time because we do not need to restrict anything.
3. Drug policy- I agree with semi legalization but seriously, Heroine, cocaine, X, Acid all legal?
OK I am Independent leaning but true Libertarians are too close to Anarchy when you get down to nuts and bolts..
Love Ron Paul , but he goes too far…
Just my Opinion. And most people I know…
Newt wold be better if we get him to agree to strict constitutional governance. In writing in advance…
Just sayin…
escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:03pm@convictobama
Report Post »check this out about foreign policy
http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul786.html
Opino1984
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:06pmFair enough, let me respond to your concerns:
1. The world is not honest and assuming they are and will do the right thing is dangerous.
I agree, there are a lot of punks in the world, but it’s up to Congress, not the president, to declare war per the Constitution. They’ve ignored their JOB for far too long allowing the presidents to do it for them.
2. trying to stop missiles is hard if you let them lob 10,000 at a time because we do not need to restrict anything.
I don’t understand your concern here. But if we were attacked by someone, much as RP supported going after OBL, he would support going after those attackers harshly, but again, with a Congressional declaration (or letters of marque for terrorists likely)
3. Drug policy- I agree with semi legalization but seriously, Heroine, cocaine, X, Acid all legal?
He leaves this policy up to the states. Most states still make those other drugs illegal, nothing would really change for those drugs. And if it WERE legal, would you start using them? Probably not right? Neither would most Americans. Those who do take responsibility for their poor choices, per the Constitution and RP’s position.
OK I am Independent leaning but true Libertarians are too close to Anarchy when you get down to nuts and bolts..
Report Post »Libertarianism =/= Anarchy. Less government doesn’t mean NO government, it means restricting the feds to the level they SHOULD be at, leaving the rest to the states. That’s RPs position.
martinez012577
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:09pm@convict
Well lets not go overboard here. 10000 missiles? Iran is having a hard time making one. They are very expensive.
We are broke, the warmongering is about to end one way or another. Either we come home on our terms or they come home because they are out of food, supplies, and missiles ( since they are expensive and dont grow on trees).
Drug legalization would be done by the states. Basically, the federal govt would quit waging war trying to stop drugs. State laws would go back into effect. If in Mississippi, no drugs are legal, well guess what Mississippi doesnt want drugs. Where as Georgia may say pot is legal. Its basically just letting the states govern themselves as it was intended.
I hate to say it but if you believe we should be invading countries without declarations of war, running up massive debt, and the federal govt telling states what to do then you are not a libertarian.
Report Post »11
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:12pm@CONVICTOBAMA:
1. & 2. – Why is it okay for us to invade, attack and occupy a sovereign nation because they might do something bad to us. We have bombs and we might do something bad to them. Would it be okay for them to attack us because of it? There are other incentives for them to not want to kill us such as free trade.
3. – If Heroin were legal would you become an addict yourself? If the answer is no then why can’t you trust other people to also make the right decision? Personal responsibility!
So, you want to elect Newt as long as he promises not to be himself? That sounds a little insane to me.
Report Post »If, as you say, a 3rd party vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama then I say so be it. I’d rather have a progressive democrat with a repub congress do minimal damage than a progressive repub with a repub congress doing lots of damage. 4 years of Newt doing damage and the country will turn back to the democrats for the president AND congress and we’ll be back in the same mess once again.
MEDICINE TO THE DEAD
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:21pmI was for Cain but have always liked Paul. The only thing that had me voting Cain was Paul’s FP positions. But, then it hit me. What is more important right now? If the dollar crashes after the EU fails which is inevitable, FP won’t mean squat. A failing US economy is more of a threat right now than any foreign country. I also agree with a lot of Paul supporters that Israel will kick Iran’s @ss if they get too out of line and that is most likely inevitable too. Paul cutting a trillion and ending 5 bureaucracies, I have to back that. I just hope that we take the senate so that all isn’t just a wet dream. Plus, I just can’t stand Newt or Romney. Voting for them would make me sick and I just couldn’t look myself in the mirror and call myself a conservative if I did. Let get our priorities straight. Can‘t believe I’m about to write this for the first time but… Ron Paul 2012!, that felt strange.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:36pmYou’ll get used to it in no time. LIBERTY is popular!
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THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:45pm@ Medicine
Report Post »Welcome to the platoon of freedom loving and Constitution defending Patriots! We need your voice to help educate the misguided on here! Fight with us, WE THE PEOPLE!
MirabellaDesign
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:32pmThe veil is lifting… Joe is no fool… misguided sniffing after Mikka like a dog in heat but she is easy on the eyes for a rotting corpse progressive. just my 2 cents.
Report Post »Todd Decker
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:31pmWhen MSNBC starts agreeing with Beck, then it is clear that Beck is not on the right side of the issue. *_* Scarborough is no conservative.
Report Post »SUMTHINSTINKS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:37pmI believe it’s PMSNBC….
Report Post »biffer
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:00pmJoe Scarborough a conservative and Glenn Beck a member of the MSM, who would have envisioned this day. I guess Restoring Courage was last years mantra for Glenn.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:09pmIf Scarborough say anything it’s a sign to do exactly the opposite
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lukerw
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:28pmThis is the best Ad… for Santorum & Bachmann!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:06pmI‘d say it’s the best TIME to ask:
“Why did Santorum and Bachmann support the antiPatriot Act that led to that horrible ”indefinite detention” bill? Don’t they understand LIBERTY, freedom and the Constitution?
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