Schultz Fail: Will MSNBC Host Admit His Rally Prediction on Friday Tanked?
- Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:14am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Through the end of last week, MSNBC host Ed Schultz believed Saturday’s One Nation march was going to be a hit. On Friday he predicted that the liberal rally was going to draw “over 300,000″:
(H/T: NewsBusters)
You might remember that he made a similar prediction on his radio show in early September:
At least he’s consistent. However, as we have pointed out, even the mainstream media is estimating rally attendance between 100,000 to 200,000, and has pointed out that Glenn Beck’s 8/28 rally drew far more.
The Washington Post goes as far as to reference the event’s organizers as saying the rally “drew a crowd of 175,000 people,” and then adds an interesting caveat: “about what they expected.”
Unfortunately for Ed, that could mean two things: neither WaPost nor event organizers listen to, or watch, his show.
Either way, the unofficial-official estimation from “event organizers” raises an interesting question: will Ed admit that his “over 300,000″ prediction — on two occasions — was wrong?
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Comments (232)
Sandy
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:47amIf that was 100K – 200K, then 8/28 had 2 million………. because the size of Beck’s crowd is easily 10 times bigger. Ed barely has 300K views on TV. I guess they didn’t hire enough people or give them enough FREE stuff to get them there………..I‘m just sayin’
Report Post »SnapTie
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:46amYou would think Fat Ed Head being from Fargo that he could find a radio station for his daily rant. But No the nearest station is in the middle of Podunk Rugby, North Dakota. Most likely they use it as a filler.
Report Post »Damage6
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:45amIf Glenn Beck says on his show tonight that the sun will rise in the East tommorow this Blowhard will open his next show screaming at the top of his lungs about what an idiot Glenn Beck and anyone who listens to him are because the sun is going to rise in the West.
Report Post »penn hudson
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:45amHaving been at 9/12, 8/28 and seen a packed stadium at Michigan, I would hazard a guess of 100k.
Report Post »But how many of those were paid, bused in, offered free food and lodging?
At 8/28 we stood with a couple who had driven from South Dakota on their own dime. It’s not just how many people were there , but their respect for others and the venue. I guess the purpose of trashing the mall was to “create” more union jobs.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:45amOh, give the man a break. It does look like his entire viewing audience showed up.
Report Post »Jim814
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:36pmThat might actually be the spin that Big Eddie puts on it.
‘Beck could only get 1/20 of his daily audience to attend; I got 100% of my weekly audience to come together. . .’
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:31pmOkay, his audience showed up. And now we know exactly who they are. So do his corporate sponsors. You are right, it was a excellent move.
Report Post »tonkaslim
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:43amSomeone should just count up all the signs that were left on the ground.
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:54amMade my day!
Report Post »javasport
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:40amOh I am sure they had 100,000. They will need that many to clean up the mess of the 5000 people who attended the march.
Report Post »Miguel Saavadera
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:39amBet Ed says, “We Did it,” and like the Rev Al, “It was a great success in getting all these groups together, it shows solidarity!” Remember the rally call ~ We are One Nation!
Propaganda is a fun thing … you just keep telling the ‘heads of mush’ the same lie over, over, and over again until they believe it. Emotion has nothing to do with ‘Facts.’
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:39amHe will stand by his predictions indicating there’s a lot more behind the scenes to make the event a success. He was able to host his very own rally. Did he leave early?
Report Post »AirFiero
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:38amHey, folks, here are the email addresses for Ed Schultz and his staff. Perhaps we should send them our “congratulations” on their Hindenburg of a rally?
http://www.wegoted.com/about/contact/
Report Post »alps91
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:38amwell, a bunch of lefty sites say the Restoring Honor Rally only drew 87,000. If they want to be consistent, then they will say this one only drew, what would you say, 10,000? LOL.
Report Post »I was at 8/28, there was a minimum of 750,000, no doubt in my mind…
Max jones
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:38amWhoa..pretty embarassing. I did not know of Ed Shultz before this rally. nuff said
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:34amThe only message that was loud and clear from Saturday’s rally is that Obama is a Communist/Socialist/Progressive/Leftist. He finally came out of the closet!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:34amI have one recommendation: read the history that the public schools have taken away from us so that they could create this victim class. Read it, pass it on, teach your children abd teach everyone who will listen.
Report Post »http://www.solargeneral.com/library/they-were-slaves.pdf
wingedwolf
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:08amAlso, as a side note, I remember when someone wouldn’t DREAM of actually saying out loud that they had socialist or communist sympathies, much less wear shirts and carry signs advocating that filth! Oh, for those days to return. Chase these demolibersocialcommies back under the rocks they came out from and keep them there forever!
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:32amIf that crowd was 175,000 then the 8/28 rally was well over 1,000,000. That was a really small crowd. There are pics that show no one under the trees. Beck’s crowd had to be 5 to 6 times larger.
Report Post »MCGIRV
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:12pmI don’t think the 10/2 rally had more than one stadium full of people in attendance. The 8/28 rally must have had at least 3 or 4 packed stadiums full of people or more.
Report Post »jthompsonpa123
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:31amMr. Schultz, I dare say, you failed to deliver. What was that? Did you hear it? I think that was the progressive agenda falling on its face.
Report Post »VERACIOUS
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:29amEd who?
Report Post »JD Carp
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:40amI agree
Report Post »TxGold
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:28amIt will be interesting to see how he ‘spins’ the numbers!! He’ll come up with and idiotic excuse. Probably Bush’s fault. You know, an ‘evil conservative’.
Report Post »AirFiero
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:26am“will Ed admit that his “over 300,000″ prediction — on two occasions — was wrong?”
Perhaps we should send LOTS and LOTS of emails to Mr. Schultz to question him?
Report Post »Suzanne Winter
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:26amMost likely not. Schultz’s complete, utter, and undeniable humiliation, in and of itself, is probably enough of a savaging; especially since Schultz brought this all upon himself. Everyone knows he (and the “One Nation Working Together”) failed, abysmally.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:55amI totally agree, Suzanne. I cannot stand it when someone cannot admit their mistakes. Ed has never been on my list of people to go to for the news. However, I occasionally flip to MSNBC, but only when Fox is having commercials…because it is just one flip of the down arrow channel away from Fox, but oh, how I cannot stand to stay there. I really think that liberalism, like someone said, is a mental disease. They get my blood boiling. Ed is so annoying. I was glad when CNN dumped Rick Sanchez, and now I’m hoping MSNBC will fire Schultz. We could instigate things, but I don’t think we need to because he seems like the kind of guy that will cross the line soon enough on his own. But then, I don’t know, because MSNBC seems to love those hate-filled extremists. I don’t understand how MSNBC pays their bills, but you’d think they have to get low on money soon. They have to be getting supplemented by someone. Perhaps Soros or the unions or the DNC or ACLU, who knows. But how long can they go on throwing all that money away.
Report Post »Suzanne Winter
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:22amMoonpeace – I also flip to MSNBC when Fox is in commercial break. Known thine enemy, right? Anyway, Schultz will, undoubtedly, say something completely disastrous and will be his own undoing. Give Schultz enough rope and he’ll take care of the rest. Like you’ve mentioned, Sanchez tied his own slip knot.
This morning’s “Morning Joe” opened with the motley crew nodding and nodding and nodding about Obama’s (and his administration’s) complete lack of business experience causing the business community to hold on to their money and to stave off hiring until the confusion Obama has created (taxes and regulations) are more clearly defined (if ever). Now, wasn’t it “we the people” that said this same thing about a year an a half ago which the Progressive cult denied? Absolutely. Maybe, just maybe, they’re coming around to some sort of mini-sanity.
How does MSNBC pay their bills? Jeffrey Immet, CEO of the whole shebang, in addition to being a hand-picked member (wonder why) of Obama’s Economic Advisory Board, is running through the stockholder’s money like sugar through a goose – in addition to using that same stockholder money to propagandize Obama’s plans and policies via MSNBC and NBC (television and radio). GE stockholders can’t be too happy about that. With MSNBC and NBC being always at the bottom of the ratings, it’s the only logical explanation. That and the fact that GE is/was selling weapons parts to Iran (are they still doing that, or, did they finally stop?).
Report Post »BQI
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:25amI think the real issue here is what these two rallies represent. A new posting at the Black Quill and Ink blog has new videos comparing these rallies and an opportunity to discuss. No doubt Glenn out numbered and out classed the One Nation
Black conservative blog: http://www.blackquillandink.com
Report Post »OldFlyGuy
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:28amBQI is a great site and gets a daily check or more from me. Suggest checking it out.
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:05pmI’ve added BQI to my favorites and check it out daily. What the progressives/liberals don’t seem to admit yet is that they pushed their agenda too far, and now the pendulum is swinging back.
Report Post »Joseph_Plumb_Martin
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:00pmWill Glenn admit that only 700 people showed up at 8,000 seat arena for his Six Flags rally?
http://www.app.com/article/20101002/NEWS/100930134/Glenn-Beck-conservative-talk-show-host-kicks-off-Restoring-America-tour
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:22pm@Joseph_Plumb_Martin,
A few quick points..
The article states that it was Beck’s first appearance since 8/28, which I found interesting, since I heard that he was in Alaska with Sarah Palin on 9/11, which I believe falls after 8/28.
Secondly, the rally in D.C. was a national call to “Restore Honor”. Although I wasn’t able to be there, a good friend was able to go and apparently all the speakers focused on renewing our country, not running down the various political candidates.
Third, the event at Six Flags was a political fund raiser, and more of a local event rather than a national event. 700 is a good showing, and because they didn’t fill the 8,000 seat theater doesn‘t mean they couldn’t have. It just means they didn’t.
Sharpton & Co. held a rally on 8/28 also. Is the fact that they didn’t pull the same number as Beck a problem? No. The problem comes in when one has Ed Schultz running his mouth off and claiming that he could get a bigger crowd than Beck did. It never was a numbers game until that happened, but looking at the photos, it’s clear who had more people.
Report Post »deadpammy
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:10pm@Joseph_Plumb_Martin When did it become a numbers game? The sadness is there are people full of hate and I saw it on 10/02.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:25amI have my doubts as to whether they even had 100,000. One thing you can be sure of, Ed is going to claim that there was allot more then 10/28, declare it an overwhelming victory, and proclaim that it is proof positive that a majority of the country believes the same things that he does, even if they don’t watch his show. A loud mouth fat man with a fat head, telling lies in attempt to prove just how important he is.
Report Post »drhunt
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:43amSharpton has already backed away from the numbers game…he relies on the fact that 10-2 had more “diversity” then 8-28. If by bussing in SEIU and ACORN members from lower income districts qualifies as diversity, then he’s probably got a point. Beck’s rally attracted people from across the country…10-2 brought in busses of people from across the street.
Report Post »Maybe the GEESE Know More than the BEES Know
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:25amit will be very interesting to watch his show tonight!
Report Post »TomBurpee
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:30amHighest ratings in history. Even if you alone tune in, he’ll brag that he has had the highest ratings in history. In.. History.. Because, as you know, if one person tunes into the Ed show, that is 100% more viewership than he has ever had.
Report Post »drhunt
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:35amOne has to force themselves to watch this cretin’s constant flow of vitriolic diatribe. His constant and shrill rants are a sure sign that his medication is not working. I think I’d rather watch paint dry, which would be more intellectually challenging then listening to Ed.
Report Post »alcarfl
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:08amIt will be his biggest ratings show ever when we tune on to hear his opening. Ratings will drop off to normal bottom feeder levels by the first commercial. Better name – The DICK Show”
Report Post »kuzy101
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:31amI think a lot of his ratings come from conservatives laughing at the crap he says on his show….I know I do.
Report Post »DrammyCoke
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:22amWhy would they start telling the truth now?
Report Post »TruthDarts
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:33amNotice all the buses on the far left??
Do you suppose “paid to attend with all the beer you can drink” union buses?
Our stolen tax dollars at work.
Oh, well, I am sure whatever the reason for the ‘LACK OF ATTENDEES’ …
Report Post »…it will be “BUSHES FAULT”…
Frank Versace
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:22amSchultz is a two-bit, has-been sportscaster from Fargo, ND who wasn’t very good at that, and is now even worse as a ******* commentator. The day he can string two coherent thoughts together will be a day of celebration. In the meantime, do NOT expect him to recognize when he’s wrong. That has never happened yet in his broadcast career.
Report Post »Marc Jacobs
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:44amAs we all know in the predictiion game, BEING LEFT MEANS YOU NEVER HAVE TO ADMIT THAT YOU WASN’T RIGHT!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:53amEd who?
LSX
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:58amSorry Frank – I have to disagree.
Shultz is really a “never was” not a “has been” and now that he‘s on PMSNBC he’s become a “never-mind” :-)
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Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:14amNews flash….ther was a rally held in Washington on 10/2…..there were millions of blades of grass in attendance….sources say next years rally will be called the ‘Green Acres’ rally sponsored by John Deere.
Report Post »cybercat
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:26amNo Truer Words, I went to NDSU.
Report Post »SMARTERTHANU
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:29amIs this really news, that some left wing promenade party was not as big as the right wing. Conservatives win! …Win what…right braggin rights…to what?
Stop wasting time on what doesn’t matter, I am glad that you had a better party, lets move on.
I am neutral.
Report Post »GeorgeWashingtonslept here
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:35amDoe’s anyone on either side listen to this moron?
RichardSaunders
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:52amI think Ed wakes up every morning and is amazed that someone is willing to OVERpay him (whatever he gets paid he is overpaid!) for the ridiculous act he delivers on TV every day… the second thought is “I hope today isn’t the day I get fired and lose this gravy train” … Ed is a joke wrapped in a parody …
Report Post »randyquick
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:58amEd “THE PASTY PROGRESSIVE” Schultz is a POSER of the worst kind. This “RALLY” was a HUGE embarrassment. I wouldn’t doubt if Ed takes the day off on MONDAY.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:10am@Smarter – I bet you wouldn’t have made the same comment had 10/2 drawn more than 8/28. Everyone on the Left wants to move on as quickly as possible from this non-story. However, to me the comparison of attendance is very important – I believe it says quite a bit about the support base of the Left. Many groups, even the speakers on the stage, pointed out that they intended to directly compete with 8/28 on the basis of attendance.
If I were “neutral”, I wouldn’t want anyone talking about 10/2.
Report Post »vilindsey
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:21ammy question is where were shultz’s two other siamese twins, – Matthews and Overman??
Report Post »2
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:38amI have a Tiny bit of respect for the ED. Not much because of all the Bull Crap he said about Us.
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The Progressive agenda is a Mental Disorder. They are sick.
They think they are God because they have no God so, someone has to pick and choose.
THE REAL SICKOS – PROGRESSIVES …….
Steve
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:45am“When big Eddie get‘s cranking on something we don’t back down til it gets done…” Gawd, I feel sorry for his wife…
Report Post »philip parker
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:56amSmarter…,
Report Post »You mistyped. You meant to type, “I am neutered”.
Independent Tess
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:56amPoor Ed suffers from a severe case of Beck Envy. It has made him bitter and impairs his judgement. The only cure is to surrender your ego and admit error. Don’t think there is much hope foe poor Ed….
Report Post »cruisemates
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:59amWarch the MSM drop this story like a hot potato. They will never admit the truth.
A person could probably COUNT the number of people at 10-2, and I doubt it is over 50,000. Seriously. I am sure the Beck rally was five times bigger at least. You can just see the difference.
How much would it cost us to get an official unbaised counting by a professional organization? The lying has gone on long enough. I will contribute to such an effort.
Report Post »TheDHndrsn
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:13am@SMARTERTHANU: You make a good point. We should not waste time with irrevelant things such as who has the bigger rally (remember that Progressives are self conscious about having a small one, so be kind). Obviously we have more Conservative voices in America than Progressive. Which IS the problem. A Republic should reflect the population, at least most of the time. We find ourselves now in a place where NOTHING from CONgress (spelling intentional) refects the principles and values of the electorate. THIS is the crux. We are a land of laws and men, not emotion and special interests.
Report Post »AwakeAndReady
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:28amTo Smarterthanu:
I don’t know if you said what you said just to get a reaction, but I will take you at your word. However, claiming to be “neutral” solves nothing. Would you stand by and be neutral if you witnessed blatant child abuse? Hopefully not. Take a stand for what you believe and have courage in your convictions. Get involved in the fight—any fight—the one you belive in.
Report Post »SeasonOfChange
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:32amI have to say, I don’t think much of Ed or his ability to say anything relavent, but there is a lot of venom being spewed here and that makes me a little sad. I don’t think being Conservative is a matter of being right over wrong. I think it is just a better way to live life. So every progressive organization on the planet chipped in to try and make this a big deal and it flopped. The victory isn’t in belittling Ed or even progressives. The victory is in the fact that there are more people that share our values than theirs and not only that, but conservatives are mobilizing in vast numbers and change is on our door step and we can make a difference! Let’s not gloat over this one event, let’s make sure we keep our momentum and continue the push forward. Let’s not be divisive, let’s have sophisticated and productive dialogue. All of this pettiness is tantamount to political signs at rallies and if you will remember, the 8/28 rally had none…for darn good reasons!
Report Post »TruthDarts
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:43am[Ed Schultz said he had "bigger numbers than 8/29" !
Hmmm, well, that probably is true considering the Beck rally was 8/28.]
Well, Obozo is getting his wish fulfilled…making all issues divisive–making everyone take sides against their fellow Americans.
Poor against rich, black against white, agnostics against religions, 10/2 rally against 8/28 rally, socialists/communists against capitalism/free market, …or put your divisive group against another group here…
RESULT: If people are fighting amongst themselves…finger pointing…hurling insults (as seen at 10/2 rally)…they are too busy to make Obozo (and his court of jesters) the issue & watch what he is doing or has done.
EdTank
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:24pmThe clean-up crew will be bigger than the rally attendance. How about that the left wing can create jobs.
Report Post »ILFarmer
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:27pmCome now, don’t be angry with him [Shultz]. It isn’t his fault he has a handicap. I‘m sure there are plenty of people that can’t run a decent educated guess or estimate and can still live full and rich lives. Well….full anyway.
Report Post »Lets, be kinder to our Liberal friends and, hold their hand as we Guide them across the busy street of Life to Prosperity Park. Our Fathers would be proud of our Good Deeds. Maybe they will want to See The Burning Bush at the center of the park as well?
pmjme
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:25pm@COFX I would agree with you. It is important. Quite frankly I am tired of feeling like I am in the minority. For pretty much my entire adult life it seems like Washington has taken a position entirely opposite from my views on the issues (do you scream at the newspaper or tv on a daily basis too?). At least after taking note of the size of the comparable attendance and behaviors of the two groups I believe there may be a glimmer of hope that the tide is FINALLY beginning to turn in my favor. I pray for that daily. Thank you God for that glimmer of hope.
Report Post »Rediculous87
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:44pmHere is Ed’s reaction from his show today
Report Post »http://wall-street-buffoon.com/2010/10/05/ed-schultz-reaction-to-the-one-nation-vs-restoring-honor-rallys/
Cyndy
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:45pmWell said.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 3:29am@ Smarterthanyou:
The crowd size issue was something Schultz has been talking about for a month.
This was never an issue for Glenn when the 8/28 rally took place and was never a competition.
Shultz claimed the rally was not in response to 8/28 but then immediately says “Oh well get 300 thousand, absolutely!”
He also says he wants to show conservatives when “Big Ed starts cranking on something he doesnt back down til it’s finished” and adds that the 10/2 rally will not be a bunch of “angry people”
All of this is about HIS need for competition in response to Beck’s 8/28.
The crowd size is just a part of it. Did he pay attention to 8/28 because there were ZERO angry people at that rally.
By the way… someone said it earlier and I will reiterate: Take a stand and be ruled by your convictions. Don’t sit on the fence of neutrality.
Report Post »TW
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:45pmBeck vs. Schultz, trash, to me they are just side stories. The real story here is that the democrats joined with the communist party to march on Washington last Saturday any true American that votes for a democrat after that is got to be out of their mind!
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