Scientists Confirm Building Blocks of DNA Found on Meteorites Are From Space
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For the last five decades, scientists have been finding elements of the building blocks of life in meteorites — space rocks formed when two asteroids collide — but earthly contamination was always a potential explanation against extraterrestrial origin. Until now.
Scientists have confirmed that nucleobases, the building blocks of DNA and RNA, found in meteorites are in fact from space.
Here’s the evidence scientists at NASA and the Carnegie Institution for Science believe confirms the extraterrestrial origin of these nucleobases:
- Nucleobase analogs were found in meteorites. These analogs are structurally similar to the nucleobases found in biology but these analogs are rare and often not found on Earth.
- Terrestrial soil and ice samples collected in Antartica and Australia where some of these metorites hit, did not show the same distribution of these nucleobases and no nucleobase analogs were present.
- In the lab, scientists studied the reactions of hydrogen cyanide, the products from which include nucleobases. The nucleobases from these lab reactions are similar to those found in the meteorites. Hydrogen cyanide is dispersed everywhere in space and is likely to cause reactions in the meteorite.
The video below explains the evidence supporting this finding:
Scientists studied 12 meteorites and found nucleobases in 11 of them. Fox News has more details on the evidence:
“At the start of this project, it looked like the nucleobases in these meteorites were terrestrial contamination — these results were a very big surprise for me,” study lead author Michael Callahan, an analytical chemist and astrobiologist at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, told SPACE.com.
Lab experiments showed that chemical reactions of ammonia and cyanide, compounds that are common in space, could generate nucleobases and nucleobase analogs very similar to those found in the carbonaceous chondrites. However, the relative abundances of these molecules between the experiments and the meteorites differed, which might be due to further chemical and thermal influences from space.
This findings reveal that meteorites may have been molecular tool kits, providing the essential building blocks for life on Earth, said study co-author Jim Cleaves, a chemist at the Carnegie Institution of Washington.
“All this has implications for the origins of life on Earth and potentially elsewhere,” Callahan said. “Are these building blocks of life transferred to other places where they might be useful? Can alternative building blocks be used to build other things?”
Previous research has revealed amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, in meteorites. Coupled with this more recent finding that the building blocks of genetic material are found extraterrestrially, it supports some scientists’ theory that these materials could have contributed to the origin of life on Earth (for more on the creation debate, see our story here).
This news comes around the same time scientists have identified what they think is the potential for rare flowing water on Mars.
In the last 15 years, scientists believe they have enough evidence to support historical water on Mars as well as frozen water. Recent observations from NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter revealed what scientists think may be flowing water on the planet.

This image shows what scientists believe could be flowing water in spring and summer on a slope inside Mars' Newton crater. (NASA/JPL-Caltech/Univ. of Arizona)
Since all life on Earth needs water to survive, the potential of liquid water on Mars is a “big deal.”
Space.com reports:
“Yeah it’s a big deal,” said Robert Zubrin, president and founder of the Mars Society. “The idea that there’s liquid water on Mars today at the surface means that there could be life on Mars today at the surface.”
The orbiter made observations of seasonal changes of slopes carved into the planet’s surface. Scientists hypothesize that the streaks they’re seeing change in images could be briny water that comes and goes with the seasons.



















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cntrlfrk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:43pm‘
Mars must not be as ‘lucky’ as the Earth.
Apparently they have all the building blocks for life, but the Million, Million-to-one odds of random happenstance that the ignorant believe created intelligent life here just hasn’t happened there yet.
Why is that?
Maybe we need to send some scientists there to create some life.
Oh, that’s right, they can’t do that either.
Looks like God has been proven right once again.
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Report Post »AtheisticTea
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:59pm@CNTRLFRK
We could easily be well on our way to exploring Mars were it not for those who look to the heavens and see it as Gods domain and would choose to wallow down here in ignorance. So instead we cut funding to NASA which has provided some of the biggest breakthroughs in science and technology and instead blow that money on what? A social safety net that lets those in need fall through in order to support the lazy.
Report Post »cntrlfrk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:21pm‘
Yeah, so Christians have ruined the space program.
Dang. Thanks for filling me in on that.
How ever will we survive without watching astronauts do somersaults in a gravity-free environment?
Or the miraculous discovery of watching them be woken up in the morning by playing old Beatles songs.
If only we would realize that the answers to everything in life could be found on a distant frozen dirt-clod.
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Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:40pmIt’s not DNA you jackass. It’s lubricant from R2D2. DIP WADS.
Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:48pmLet me clear this up. NOT THE BLAZE POSTERS but the scientists = jackass and Dip Wads.
Report Post »gmoneytx
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:08pmThat’s funny!
Report Post »HairOfTheDogSob
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 5:15pmThese are the same algore scientists who invented global warming
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 6:18pmIf I’m an alien then please tell me how the hell I can get off this FUBAR planet and get home. PLeeeze tell me.
Report Post »HUNITHUNIT
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 6:22pmYes of course!! All scientists work for Al Gore!!! That makes so much sense when you consider it from rational point of view. I am so glad hairofthedog could clear that up, as I had always believed that scientists chose their careers because they were passionate about the subject matter. Now I realize that they are all commie zombies working for Gore!!…..seriously though, go brew some tea and listen to some bad country music, leave the thinking to real men.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 11:37pmAnd?
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:15am“Finds” like this are necessary if the NASA scientists are going to have a job. While anything is possible, the most likely “truth of the matter” is that this is just another fabrication… AKA, lie. Does anyone remember the rock that they found that they said was “knocked off of Mars”, flew around in space for millions of years and then fell in the antarctica? The really puzzling part of that story is that so many people believed it. The most likely origin of that particular rock is…. are you ready… Ta Daaaa…. right here on earth. Let’s see, we have a billion billion stars and planets and stuff and these brilliant scientists figured out that this one particular rock came from mars… yeah, I’m gonna believe that.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 2:48pmI can find flour,yeast,sugar,eggs,milk ,butter and other ingredients in a kitchen and still not have a cake.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 2:48pmAnd Being that we’re a cabon based life form all of this means….?
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 6:32pmYo Rightsofman:
Report Post »I think it’s either 3 lefts or 3 rights. Somebody told me they lead to the same place. Make sure you take plenty of water. God bless!
Bro. Chuck
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:39pmwell, duh…….
If anything, its evidence positive we all came from the same Creation –
therefore, the same Creator!
Baruch HaShem!
YahWeh, You are to be Praised in the Glory of Your Creation!!!!!
We exalt YOU, Adonai!
be Bless’d
Report Post »ortho40
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:04pmAmen!
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:05pmNo, not really, not at all. The fact that the universe exists in a particular configuration, that it could have arisen entirely spontaneously, doesn’t prove or disprove the existence of God, an entity that hasn’t been defined anyhow, and therefore can’t be empirically investigated.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:30pmever hear of the anthropic principle? I‘m sure you think its all a ’coincidence’….sure are lots of those ‘coincidences’ aren’t there?
Report Post »DEADFACEBOOK
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:38pmlame answer… it is proof positive that life on other planets is common… Praise Jah Haile Selassie I King of Kings Lord of Lords Conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah, may he open the seventh seal and reveal to us… hummina hummina hummina
Report Post »DEADFACEBOOK
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:38pmso planet of the apes was right?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:53pm@DEADFACEBOOK proof positive? laughable….a ‘building block’ is a long way from DNA…ok so where are they? why hasn’t all this life contacted us?? hmmmm???
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:07pmThey didn‘t find Barry’s real birth certificate on that hunk of meteorite anywhere, did they?
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:20pm“Building Blocks” is still not life. It’s like saying you have a bunch of bricks in a pile but no house. Someone has to put those bricks together in an orderly fashion that it will make a house. The bricks will never come together on their own and build themselves into a house. Same with life. You can claim all you want to that these building blocks were how life started but look all around you, in this natural world (not the spiritual) everything has come from something. Nothing has ever been proven to create itself. There’s always a creator behind all you see. Yes, I know, “But who created God?” You can say well, ok someone created Him… and someone created him and so on and so forth but eventually you’ll get to a point where a Creator has been there eternally. Our minds only know time so trying to understand something that’s always been there with no beginning or end is a stretch for our feeble minds. There is a God, He created all you see and life is proof positive of that fact.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:24pm@Joe 1234:
Two things: 1) The inverse-square law. Our own radio broadcasts will not be discernible above the radio-noise floor at the range of the nearest star, let alone the nearest planet capable of hosting life, let alone intelligent life, let alone intelligent life at least as advanced as us.
2) Universal Speed Limit: 299,792,458 m/s. Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, certainly not radio waves. If you had a warp drive or similar and were able to flit around the galaxy at will, why would you bother with an insignificant spec of a planet like Earth whose inhabitants are so primitive that they still think the cellphone is a pretty neat idea?
(Apologies to Douglas Adams.)
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:29pmGod didn’t say let me make made out of thin air. He made man from THE DUST OF THE GROUND. So science is finally coming into line with Biblical truth, as it has done at every point in it’s perversion of facts. There were mental tadpoles like Darwin (aka Chuckie the Purple Dinosaur), then on to Stephan Gould, the half educated orangutan from Harvard peddling the nonsense of punctuated equilibrium because he knew that Chuckies Uniformity was a crock of useless lies. All that after it was absolutely proven that Spontaneous Generation and the warm pond was absurd.
Creationists agree 100%, God breathed life into the dust of the ground. How he placed that dust isn’t revealed to us, because IT IS NOT RELEVANT. The only relevant part is that God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed life into man, and he became a living being.
So BRAVO Science for confirming what Creationists have stated for thousands of years!
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:49pmBut this isn’t the dust of the ground.
These are the rocks of the sky.
Report Post »cykoaudio
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:04pmas far as life on other planets.-scientists at Seti,the ones who would be the first to claim knowledge of alien life admitted they don’t believe they wlll ever find any,if they don’t receive some definitive confirmation in next couple of years,and most importantly the Hubble & some other telescope(can’t remember name off hand) can see billions of light years into the universe, differentiate gases/ chemicals surrounding stars & planets,& Hubble technicians have admitted they have NEVER seen right combination of elemental building blocks/gases surrounding ANY PLANET,IN ANY GALAXY that would support carbon based life like ours,which they would have been very quick to point to & TIME mag would have cover story saying “proof of life on other planet found” even though they didn’t..but they can’t even say that.so its not looking good for that prospect,just scientifically-2cd,Dawkins/Hitchens when argument broken down to base,how did life come into existence w/o help on earth,always say crystals or aliens(their arguments always sound more like sci-fi than real science)..so evolutionist/atheists have been looking to say life came from space for decades now to complete their argument,& I could have told you years ago they would say this..its a crock,because evolutionists argument always ends at “how did life come into being”(they even admit wasn’t coincidence w/lighting in a pool of muck),but truth is in/around/before last ice age when continents moved cont.-
Report Post »Doc_Slammin
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:10pmLesbian Packing Hollow Points said, “But this isn’t the dust of the ground. These are the rocks of the sky.”
Mr Obvious points out that the Earth is a rock in sky also.
Report Post »cykoaudio
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:18pmread Gerald Schroeders work for definitive answer as to first verses in Bible & what the original texts,in original translation actually say & how it lines up perfectly w/ modern science…all other arguments are antiquated as he has found THE answer as to how the Bible is describing beginning of universe perfectly & how since God created TIME & ENERGY,& such space/time was stretched from beginning each “day” viewed from when space/time was still expanding was different amount of time as viewed from our perspective,I can’t explain like the noble MIT professor can,but I guarantee if you read Gerald Schroeders work you will find we can STOP arguing about it,as the answer is there in black and white..as far as meteors..cont.from previous post-there were subterrainean oceans that continents were riding on & last time they moved-in/around/before last ice age much of water/ice/rock from the pressure of huge land masses sitting on top of it shot out into space carrying w/it dna,bacteria & many living things FROM THIS PLANET INTO SPACE,& went into orbit around our solar system,landed on Mars/Moon etc..proof is in the Mammoths being frozen in time/matter of hours,many are found w/food still in there stomach,as hail/ice/dirt rained down on parts of the earth & some shot into space..so many meteors are FROM the earth,returning home,thats why they contain many of the same things you would have found in the subterranean waters at the last time the earth shifted its axis
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:31pmlesbian SETI…all those years…nothing….
those limits are what *we* know of, who knows what a more advanced technology could do…
Report Post »CoolGuy87
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:58pmYou loony toon!
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 7:48pmThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 8:32pmL…so in other words, you have faith.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 10:19pmIn science which is self-correcting, not religion which is self-congratulating.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 11:09pmreal science is self-correcting…that racist atheist fairy tale known as evolution is not. no matter what the data says…evolution has to be true, because the alternative is unthinkable…as lewontin says…
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door
http://www.drjbloom.com/Public%20files/Lewontin_Review.htm
nothing like a closed mind…
Report Post »LOLReally
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:07pmIts soo complicated it must be god!
Report Post »Just like a posi-track rear end
or the stock market
Ok so now I need to thank god (he must speak english) for sending us a rock!
The bible says theres a heaven so it must be true, case closed,I SAID CASE CLOSED.
LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU.
Non belivers will be shot on site.
Physicist_In_Training
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:00pmLPHP: Good comments :)
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:38pmInteresting…out of the billions and billions of miles of space..and all the billions and billions of rocks traveling through space..and the ages upon ages that it takes the rocks to get here and unmeasurable small pockets of gas in the universe to interact with the rocks…that scientists find nucleobases in 11 out of 12 meteorites….call me a sceptic, but I think the scientists are trying to make this dicovery fit a template…
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:04pmYou got that right,Tein!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:42pmAnd still, no life discovered anywhere else. The earth is perfectly positioned to the sun for life to exist.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:14pm@Avengerk:
Report Post »It’s called the Goldilocks Zone. Every star has one, and some of the 500+ exo-planets discovered to date also exist in the Goldilocks Zone. Earth is by no means unique in that regard. Now, we are realizing precisely how mundane the Earth is about to get. We had better prepare our culture for the fact of extra terrestrial life, if not extra terrestrial intelligence.
ClockKing
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:25pmHow is it even possible to prepare for such an unknown? You can’t. The best you can do is better yourself (or species). Plus, they never explain their methods clearly. Where did these meteor samples come from? Were the found here on earth? Where? What is their carbon dating? How long were they here? Long enough to be “contaminated” by earth’s natural environment?
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:48pm@Clock King:
Report Post »Did you even read the article? They’re from the arctic. None of the surrounding, terrestrial, material has the nucleobases. The issue is not how old the nucleobases are, so dating techniques (Hey, babe. Come here often?) don’t matter. The mere existence of the building blocks, the “sine qua, non” of genetic evolution being found on meteors is the news.
BrianBDB
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:18pmHow hot does a meteorite get on re-entry? What’s the known limit temperature to support life?
This is nothing more than the latest (published) patch applied to the big bang theory.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 6:28pmLesbian – Way to use that noggin!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 8:46pm@ClockKing
Report Post »This is how the United Nations have prepared for the existance of Alien Life. An Alien Abassador!
No joke! The Earth has an Alien Ambassador! I wonder what she does all day?
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-09/27/alien-ambassador
hi
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:36pmEvolutionists cannot explain where meteors came from. If the universe were millions of years old, meteors would have all disappeared by now. So, evolutionists, not wanting to believe in a young universe, made up the ort cloud which is neither seen, nor detected. (Recall, for the same reason they made up dark matter which is also neither seen nor detected)
MIT PhD, Walt Brown believes the meteors came from earth during the explosions that happened with the great flood. It was very violent and pieces of earth exploded out of the atmosphere. When there was no resistance in space, they could travel very fast with just a little momentum, and they were flung further by forces when they came close to planets and whatnot.
Anyway, I cannot explain it very well obviously. However, if interested, BING Walt Brown, PhD Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood and read it for yourself. He explains in great detail what current evolutionists believe. He evaluates their theories and his side by side so you can decide for yourself which makes more sense.
It’s really cool when you read his book. It will lift your faith to an even higher level when you see that science and the Bible go hand in hand. God made the laws of physics and God made life. The life on the meteors came from earth.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:20pm@HI:
You steady-staters always give me a chuckle with your pseudo-scientific thought, like the person who couldn’t believe that comets delivered water to the Earth, BECAUSE THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY NO WATER ANYWHERE ELSE.
Not only are meteors constantly being generated out of planetary bodies being ripped apart by gravitational tidal forces, planets are constantly being generated out of planetary nebulae, which are themselves how stars and planets are generated out of great gas clouds of hydrogen and assorted other detritus from exploding stars. In short, the universe recycles.
Any time someone feels compelled to put the word “Compelling” in the title of an essay, it immediately makes that essay uncompelling. Has Earth EVER had bits of itself thrown off the surface into space? Yes. It happened with a gargantuan meteoroid slammed into us prior to the surface cooling to a point even capable of supporting life. This was closer to our proto-planet times than to today. The result of this cosmic fender-bender? The moon.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:20pmAlso, look on any reliable maps of the solar system and pay attention to the space between Mars and Jupiter. There’s enough meteoroids and asteroids out there, that were it not for the gravitational effects of Jupiter, could come together to form an entire other planet. That planet would NOT be Earth, or even another Earth.
We have several deep space missions slated to go out to various known asteroids and comets and if not to the Asteroid Belt, I miss my guess. Will you still be saying the components of life on meteoroids came from earth when they find them out between Mars and Jupiter? Or maybe you’re still clinging to a geo-centric view of the solar system too?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:28pm@LPH-P’s
Report Post »NO NO NO! If you read the Bible you will find that the Earth was created first (day 3), then the stars were hung in the sky (day 4). The Earth is 1 day older than the Universe! LOL
joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:31pm@lesbian…
The more new planets we find, the less we seem to know about how planetary systems are born, according to a leading planet hunter.
With the tally of confirmed planets orbiting other stars now more than 500, planet hunters are heading for a golden age of discovery, said Geoffrey Marcy of the University of California, Berkeley. (Explore an interactive of the known planets.)
But that bonanza has been a headache for theoreticians, he said, because many of the newly discovered star systems defy existing models of how planets form. (Related: “New Planet Found; Star’s Fourth World Stumps Astronomers.”)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/02/110222-planets-formation-theory-busted-earth-science-space/
sorry…
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:41pmAstrophysicists Put Kibosh On Alternative Theory Of Star Formation
ScienceDaily (Nov. 21, 2005) — Astrophysicists at the University of California, Berkeley, and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) have exploded one of two competing theories about how stars form inside immense clouds of interstellar gas.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/051118110729.htm
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:42pmMoon’s interior water casts doubt on formation theoryBy Jason Palmer
Science and technology reporter, BBC News
The study looked at pockets of volcanic material locked in glass Continue reading the main story
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An analysis of sediments brought back by the Apollo 17 mission has shown that the Moon’s interior holds far more water than previously thought.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13545848
perhaps if you kept up with the science you wouldn’t be so sure in your pronouncements….
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:55pm@Joe 1234:
Report Post »“I think in its very basic form, [the impact theory] idea is probably still correct, but there’s something fundamental… that we don’t understand” — Erik Hauri, Carnegie Institution
smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:20pmJoe1234,
Report Post »when a female planetary sytem and male planetary system like each other the male planetary system give the female planetary sytem a special let’s call it a kiss…and 9 billion years later a new palnetary system is born.
cykoaudio
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:35pm@Lesbian,just read the work of an MIT professor/very distinguished physicist who knows much more than you or any professor you’ve ever had,Gerald Schroeder,nobody believes the earth is 6k years old,stop w/that…just read Gerald Schroeders book “Science of God” & “Genesis and the Big Bang” & you will see the truth,which you might be surprised does run contrary to many creationsits & includes most of modern science,but shows the first verses of the Bible have just been translated,theorized incorrectly,& worlds leaing atheist Antony Flew(who’s more knowledgeable than Dawkins/Hitchens combined in evolution )was convinced & is now a deist/intelligent design believer…@ the top…no your right,I’ve read his work,& has been backed up by many other scientists as well as they keep finding pieces that fit his argument,which makes the most sense..like the Mammoths we are always told lived in sub zero tems,but their coat does fit that scheme..& mammoths found w/food in their stomach frozen in time,meaning in just a couple of hours enough hail,ice & debris rained down on them covering,freezing them almost instantaneously,i.e. that last time the earth shifted axis & continents moved/subterranean waters shot out into space carrying ice/bacteria/debris & orbited our solar system as meteors,& now returning home carrying same things it left earth with,and yes that is where ice on moon & mars came from,here on earth! Between dr.Brown & dr. G. Schroeder the whole truth is there
Report Post »ConstitutionalPartier
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 6:37pmThen again, if the Universe was only a couple thousand years old, we wouldn’t see stars farther than 6,000 to 7,000 lightyears. I don’t think that leaves much interpretation. :P
Let’s just let people believe in what they want man!
Report Post »Belteshazzar
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 7:15pm@ Lesbian Packing Hollow Points-
Report Post »First, I want to say that although I disagree with you, I do enjoy your witty rejoinders. I, too appreciate Douglas Adams and his humor.
Have you read Dr. Walt Brown’s book? It is entirely free online at http://www.creationscience.com
I would genuinely like to hear your thoughtful comments after you complete it (with witty rejoinders please).
He offers to debate anyone in a public forum and has had very few takers on that offer. Maybe you should take his challenge.
I personally disagree with him about the age of the universe and his “scroll” theory but , and I know you don’t like this, I find the rest of his postulations very “compelling”.
I would love to hear your thoughts after you read his book.
ofallon
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:35pmWhy do some scientists want to prove so badly that there might be water and possible life on Mars? Why do they try so hard to put a square peg in a round hole?
Why did Al Gore throw a fit yesterday?
Nobody believes their religion. Just because they are “scientists” doesn’t mean they are objective and without an agenda. They seem to be using the ends (water and life) to justify their thinking instead of taking one proven step at a time.
Why do they assume the striations are composed of water instead of natural dry crevices without water? The green striations in the picture might as well be green cheese.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:43pm@ofallon
Report Post »Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:35pm
‘Why do some scientists want to prove so badly that there might be water and possible life on Mars?’
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Two reasons: Because it would imply that possibly we are not alone in this universe and also that Mars (and other planets) may be conducive to terraformation. Besides, it is COOL!
Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:23pmAnd if Yuppies will pay $10 a bottle for water just shipped from France, imagine the $$$$ in selling Martian Spring brand mineral water, coming soon to a continent near you.
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:31pmI always hated the though that I came from some nasty creature that crawled out of the ocean.
Thank God it’s not true!
I was derived from a rock, not from under a rock! Hooray!
What dopes!.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:23pmSorry but this guy is no scientist. Listen to what he says between 40 and 50 seconds of the begin of the video clip. Something that is rare on Earth, is not absent and something that is absent on Earth is not rare. Which is it? Rare on Earth or absent on Earth. This guy is just guessing and making up things to “fit” the conclusions he wants.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:26pmYou mean like Glenn does every day? lolol
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:36pm@becksnotnutsur
Report Post »You have a Pebkac issue and there is no cure for it.
BOMUSTGO
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:17pmGOD makes himself known when you seek him.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:28pmNonsense. That is not true at all. That statement is simply another assertion that has no proof to support it.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:45pmNo, not always:
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
Every ‘divine’ intervention or appearance can be explained by natural causes, mental illness, or coincidence.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:53pmExplain the event in Acts 2:1-4. It is still happening today.My wife, myself, and my daughter and countless others have had this experience. It is life changer! OBEY ACTS 2:38.
Report Post »Brizz
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:54pm@BECKISNUTS
Report Post »Its called faith.
Berend
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:58pm@beckisnuts I am sure you still have faith in communism/socialism/Marxism even though there is no “proof” of it succeeding. At least Christianity builds people up
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:59pm@Brizz
Report Post »Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:54pm
‘Its called faith.’
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Small children have firm faith that Santa exists. That doesn’t mean that it is true. Blind faith is childish.
Brizz
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:04pm@BAIKONUR
Report Post »So you would be considered mentally ill?
AtheisticTea
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:18pm@ berend
Why is it that to be Atheist automatically means I must be communist, marxist, or socialist? Especially given that the altruism born of those groups is closer to that of christianity which tells you to give to others, care for the weak or infirm, and to love thy neighbor.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:27pm@Atheistic Tea:
Report Post »Because Atheists who are also Libertarians and Conservatives who believe in Republican forms of government don’t fit into their tidy, little, faith-based world-view.
joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:44pm@AtheisticTea really? yeah we‘ve seen how ’altrustic’ atheist forms of governments are with the gulag, the killing fields, the ukranian starvation, etc….
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:58pm@Joe 1234:
Report Post »And we’ve seen the Spanish Inquisition, and the Crusades, and the persecution of Renaissance scholars by church authorities too. Neither Atheism, nor Theism, has the market cornered on insane twits willing to kill in the name of what they believe.
joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:10pmatheism, socialism…marxism has proven to be even more bloodthirsty than islam…
Report Post »Berend
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:36pmFaith and communism do not mix. Stealing and distributing are not altruistic. Hard work and voluntarily sharing what you can is both Christian and altruistic
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:17pmso where did my response to lesbian go about the inquisition???
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:30pmtry again…the inquisition killed what a couple hundred people over a couple of CENTURIES???? yeah lets compare that to stalin’s show trials…please…
THANK GOD FOR THE CRUSADES..they were a defensive action against the muslim INVASION of europe….
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 5:14pm@joe Why am I not surprised to see you support the crusades which slaughtered so many jews in the name of christ. I love seeing you post over and over “racist atheist fairy tail.“ You are about to fall of your rocker trying to convince people that evolution is a big evil conspiracy by mining for all the little bits and pieces of negative evidence you can find and exclaiming ”case closed!” You probably believe in the devil too. Go talk to one of your clergymen about this, (if you can find one with a rational mind) before you go postal on us please.
Report Post »HairOfTheDogSob
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 5:21pmJust so there is no other planets with lesbians
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 8:37pm@cesium…well you prove the existence of the devil…you sure sound posessed…
yeah a lot of people died in the crusades…thats what happens in war….we nuked the japanese…what do you think about that? hmmm? we also firebombed them and the germans…..pretty gruesome…do you think we shouldn’t have done that? we bombed the hell out of the germans, civilians, military, didn’t matter…do you think we should not have? so the nazis could have stayed in power longer, and slaughtered more people? hmmm??
I‘m sure you’d be much happier in a muslim country…which is what would have happened without the crusades…the west and the freedom you enjoy would not have existed without them and people like CHARLES MARTEL.
still think cancer proves evolution is true?? LOL what a buffoon.
Report Post »SpeaknUp
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:15pmSo, what’s your point? “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” Genesis 1:1. We already know that the building blocks of life are “extra-terrestrial.” We’ve known it for at least 6,000 years.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:25pmYet modern humans have existed for 200 thousand years before that. What took “GOD” so long to say “peek a boo, I see you!”?
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:08pmI’m confused. I was told I evolved from a monkey, not a meteor.
Report Post »rvill0048
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:17pmYes you are. It says building blocks for life, not ****-sapiens.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:23pmWell, your Uncledaddy lied to you you then. Modern humans did share a common ancestor with modern primates however. It is amazing how so many of you evangelicals cannot absorb that simple fact.
Report Post »Blackop
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:01pmYou’re confused? Really? Why is this hard to understand?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:46pm@beckisnuts…really? well name that common ancestor and list the mutations that led to humans…
don‘t worry I won’t hold my breath! LOL (in other words your ‘science’ of evolution is nothing more than faith)
Report Post »Sickofwaste
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:07pm@Joe , that’s where the alien life comes in. Watch ancient aliens on history channel
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 4:58pmJoel123, science makes more sense than the fairy tales in your bible, so all the work is really on your side, not ours. Science has been proven correct over myth in so many instances for so long that there’s no longer a contest between the two. Science won that contest ages ago. Face it.
FACT: modern humans and modern primates shared a common ancestor. Our DNA is almost identical to this very day. Denying it only makes you look simple-minded and child-like.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 5:39pmJoe is quite simple minded. He has a door in his brain where he collects all he can on the internet that fails to support evolution, refuses to consider the highly supportive data, and if he likes the evidence, links it to the false (new) testament. (not that the old one holds any veracity but a load of BS piled on top of a new load of BS is still BS) I’m sick of people in this world who claim to know what is not known.. Joe is a typical philistine and would be quite satisfied to use the limited pieces of unsupportive data that have been produced to shut down scientific inquiry and prevent more supportive evidence from piling onto theories of evolution. This meteorite is a nightmare for people like him!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 8:40pm@nuts so you say…why can’t you name that ancestor then?? after all you’re the SCIENTIST…but you sound more like a high priest in the church of darwin…no answer huh? no surprrise…
oh and the bible has been shown over and over to be true…
Museum’s tablet lends new weight to Biblical truthDalya Alberge, Arts Correspondent
The British Museum yesterday hailed a discovery within a modest clay tablet in its collection as a breakthrough for biblical archaeology – dramatic proof of the accuracy of the Old Testament.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2056362.ece
so why doesn’t the fossil record show evolution? why did gould have to come up with punctuated equilibrium…I know you don’t have the intelligence to answer…you’re a good follower…a perfect democrat…uneducated and easily led. LOL
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 8:44pm@cesium..still think cancer proves evolution is true? hmm??? LOL
this meteor means nothing to me…its funny to watch you darwiniacs drool on command though!!
oh you know you’ve never answered the following question about your racist god and savior…lets see if you have the guts to today…
list the lower races your racist god and savior is refering to…
“The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64).
I bet you’ll duck and cover again like the coward you are LOL
I love making you look stupid, its so much fun and SO easy!!
Report Post »dangergirl
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:07pmWe continue to discover new species here on terra firma. Extraterrestrial life could be here without our knowing it. To hide in plain sight is nothing new. We are still in our technological infancy as a race. How can you know what can or can‘t be when you don’t know how to open the door-yet?
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:49pmThe horseshoe crab has copper-based blood, instead of iron-based blood. It bleeds blue. To the best of my knowledge, that makes it unique among all animals, including insects, on the Earth. If there’s a candidate for extraterrestrial life here on Earth, I’m putting my money on the horseshoe crab.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:04pmProfessing to be wise they make themselves fools.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 5:01pmBelieving in myths without solid proof makes evangelicals look gullible and fearful.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:03pmI’m not surprised, I read about it years ago.
Report Post »Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth.
nysparkie
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:44pmYou and I have the same book library. Atta boy to GONZO.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:19pm@nysparkie
Report Post »Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:44pm
‘You and I have the same book library. Atta boy to GONZO.’
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Is that the only book in your ‘library?’
Belteshazzar
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:59pmWalt Brown’s hydroplate theory explaining the flood of Noah also explains this.
Report Post »http://www.creationscience.com
Belteshazzar
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 7:02pmThis article supports Dr. Brown‘s theory that the meteor belt is comprised of rock particles that were part of the Earth’s crust that were launched into space by the event that caused the global flood. That is why they have the nucleobases that don’t match the surrounding area. They came from another part of the planet approximately 5000 years ago and are just now returning home to a differnt clime.
Report Post »This same event scarred the side of the moon that always faces Earth.
Christian Kalgaard
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:59pmBS.
Report Post »lol
Gonzo
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:09pmWhy? If God created the universe, is it surprising there are common elements throughout?
Report Post »biblegeek119
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:58pmOkay, life came from meteors but how the meteors came to be?
Everything originating from nothing makes a lot of sense, but I don’t believe it.
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:51pmI have flung my poo far and wide with my giant slingshot. I wonder if some of it reached the stratosphere and was carried to these far off places. Perhaps a meteorite hit one of my many poos that are circling the earth and was deflected to the ground. My poo would have coated the meteorite and acted as a heat shield making it more likely that the meteorite wouldn’t burn up on entry into the atmosphere.
I doubt the scientists have considered this in their calculations.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:04pmMossbrain fits the classic demographic of Beck’s audience to a “T.”
wow
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:40pm@beckisnuts
Report Post »Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:04pm
‘Mossbrain fits the classic demographic of Beck’s audience to a “T.” ‘
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No, he/she is smart and very sarcastic, with a unique sense of humor. Not your average Beck fan.
Secessionista
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:48pmOur ideas as to what is life are pretty narrow. I doubt that we need to be looking for water or GATC, we need to be evolving our brains so that we can be aware enough so that we can realize the presence of other life forms through not-yet-invented technologies and techniques. Looking for water and the stuff we are made of just means that we are looking for other human beings – probably not the most likely of the possibilities. We might just discover, or prove the non-existence of, other life through pure mathematics. For example, it is easy to prove that time travel is not possible and will never be possible. The proof is that there are no travelers from the future passing through. You know they would be doing so if it were possible and if man discovered it before he was exterminated. Yes, you heard it here first – either time travel is not possible, or mankind is exterminated before he discovers it. There are no other possibilities.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:46pmCool stuff.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:53pmThe more science reveals, the thinner all the religious narratives become. No religion references life anywhere else in the universe, yet it’s just a matter of time before it is discovered. Interesting.
BTW, any word on that bomb at that fraud Hagee’s offices yet? Interesting timing on that situation.
hauschild
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:04pmCool – cased closed for leftist loons, then, right? Big Bang it is, right?
Now, take that newly-created fact and then transfer it to now. How does this info aid in helping the 30% of American citizens that can’t raise their kids properly? What does it do for those that feel they can ride the coattails of others to live comfortably? How does it help Marxist presidents realize Marxism – no matter how slight – has never panned out for a prolonged period of time?
Fill me in loons – I’m very interested.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:45pm@becksnotnuts…the more we find out about science the more it supports the bible….
don’t tell me you believe in that racist atheist fairy tale called evolution now do you?
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 7:17pmCool stuff indeed! I am happy someone can get their head out of their bum and not turn this into some creationism v. evolution argument.
Very cool stuff
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 8:21amJoel123seems to be suffering with a personality disorder.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:45pmTruly amazing news! Wow.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:00pmTo me, it’s another “Yawn …”.
This country is falling apart at the seams, yet you are “cooled” by another scientist’s discovery whose sole purpose is to perpetuate the Big Bang “theory”???
How many new discoveries does this make now, around a million? And, has any of them mended the fabric of this country? Not a one.
Report Post »Idahosauce
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:45pmCool! so, where did the DNA come from? Try as you may, you can’t get around the fact that we are the result of intelligent design. (and yes, that means God)
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:56pmMaybe you can’t get around that idea, but the educated among us can do so with ease. Ten years from now, when Glenn has been exposed as the fraud he is and Jesus still has not arrived, you will be amazed at the advances in knowledge that will have been made. All of you evangelicals who are yearning for armageddon are in for a huge disappointment.
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:59pmgood one Idaho
Report Post »Hydra
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:05pmYeah right god, keep dreaming that lie.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:09pmTo believe that something has to be made by a being in order for it to exist is primitive thinking. If GOD really exists, why did he hide from humanity for 200,000 years before making his presence known?
Answer: Because no one invented him until a few thousand years ago. And before that, there were a multiplicity of “GODS” people attributed naturally occurring events to. They’re all gone, one more to go.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:59pmBeckisnuts,
Report Post »He didn’t hide from man for 2,000 years, he walked among Adam and Eve in the garden (the very first humans). Man’s sin put up the barrier between a Holy God and his creation who chose sin over Him. So, next you’ll ask, How can a Perfect God create an imperfect being? Answer: He gave his creation free will. I know you don’t believe that but, I hope you will some day.
beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:11pmGonzo, it’s 200 thousand years, not 2000 years. And that story written in the Old Testament is a myth. It is not factual.
Report Post »Richard Compton
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:47pmOk lets take a deep breath here and stop berating oneanother, read The Song Of God, by Azrael Ondi Ahman, or go to http://www.thesongofgod.com perhaps you might gain a glimmer of understanding.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:44pmThe only place other than in the meteorites scientists have found similar DNA on Earth is in President Downgrade’s DNA samples.
Report Post »And some people worried about whether he originated from Hawaii or Kenya….
Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:06pmOr, now, the Asteroid Belt.
Report Post »KeithOlberdink
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:44pmI wonder where obama’s are from. His insane DNA could not possibly have an earthly origin.
Report Post »HUNITHUNIT
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:43pmI‘m sure God put them there to test everyone’s faith……hahahahahahahahhahahaha. Go brew some tea christians your sham falls apart daily.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:51pmNot really, but your obvious hatred reveals your intention to not live peacefully alongside those you despise.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:51pmMaybe Monsanto can splice it to make some new Soybeans ?
Report Post »http://www.rawfoodlife.com/monsantofrankenfoodsexposed.html
http://www.psrast.org/subeqau.htm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/24/us-monsanto-roundup-idUSTRE71N4XN20110224
biohazard23
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 12:54pmWe will pray for you and the other souls who turn away from or who do not know the Lord’s love, grace, and forgiveness.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:00pmSorry, this delusion is NOT for believers………….it is for non-believers.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:02pmAnd the rational people who know the truth and see through the false narrative all religions espouse will continue to hope that everyone will come to embrace reality and discard their superstitious delusions.
Report Post »biblegeek119
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:03pmDo you know why it is called TEA PARTY? Do you know the history about the Tea from England? Can you explain to me what the name of this party is alluding to?
I think that if you research and find out you will agree with what they stand for. I am sure you are not a person that want to have the police enforcing laws that takes away your right to decide things for yourself. No one wants to take orders from a king. I am sure you want to decide things for yourself and not be bossed around.
Report Post »aerorepairo
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:08pmMaybe it is left over ape DNA from another planet that was destroyed as result of HUNITHUNIT type ideology.
Report Post »HUNITHUNIT
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:18pmI don’t hate you, I love you!! I just think that you are blinded by faith in ancient nonsense.
Report Post »ThomasBombadillo
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:22pmSo there is some evidence that other worlds are made up of the same stuff as ours. How does this disprove the existence of God?
Report Post »jkendal
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:23pm@beckisnuts: “And the rational people who know the truth and see through the false narrative all religions espouse will continue to hope that everyone will come to embrace reality and discard their superstitious delusions.”
I will never renounce my faith in Jesus Christ. And many of my brothers and sisters in Christ will say the same. So if we continue to hold to our ‘superstitious delusions’, what then? Would you try to coerce us into giving them up (or support politicians who would)? Or worse, seek to destroy us because we refuse to give them up (or, again, support politicians who would)?
To all God-haters:
Report Post »Why are we Christians such a threat to your (false) worldview? Why are you constantly attacking us? Why do you even care about what we believe? What did we do to YOU???
beckisnuts
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:43pmJkendall, non-believers/free thinkers do not hate god any more than you hate Santa Claus. We are tired of all the killing and evil that is done because of religious differences (delusional superstition) however.
Do you realize that religious extremists/Islamofascism has cost this nation trillions of dollars and thousands of lives? And how much money have we thrown at Israel? The list goes on and on. Stupid superstitious people are a gigantic burden on the rest of humanity. Hopefully, people will grow out of this nonsense someday and realize, we are all basically the same collection of DNA that originated long before any religion was invented and we start working together for the greater good of all.
Report Post »jkendal
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 2:16pm“We are tired of all the killing and evil that is done because of religious differences (delusional superstition) however.”
Yeah, I wish the muslims would stop attacking us, too!
“Do you realize that religious extremists/Islamofascism has cost this nation trillions of dollars and thousands of lives?”
So what, we just give up and let them kill us???
“And how much money have we thrown at Israel?”
Not as much as we’ve been throwing at Africa and look how futile that is.
“Stupid superstitious people are a gigantic burden on the rest of humanity.”
Christians are among the most charitable of humanity, so you’ll need to be more specific.
“Hopefully, people will grow out of this nonsense someday and realize, we are all basically the same collection of DNA that originated long before any religion was invented and we start working together for the greater good of all.”
The only people who are actually trying to make this a better place are the very ones you are attacking. Your kind wants to take their property and give it to those who don’t want to put in the same effort for it. Greater good for all, when all don’t want to work – look at the rioters in this country and in England – all LEECHES. So until the animals change their attitude and join the living and start contributing something other than toxic language and violence (i.e. start “working together”), you can stuff your “greater good” where it belongs: in the garbage.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 3:39pm@jkendal, OUTSTANDING!!!
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